WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: Innerspace 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:08.000 Hey you, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. This is 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:12.160 Rob Lamb and today we have an episode that originally 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:17.000 published one three, twenty twenty five. This episode features a 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:21.400 guest host. My friend David Streepy of Talkin' Tofu the podcast, 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.720 returned to the show and discussed with me the nineteen 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:29.080 eighty seven miniaturization film Interspace, directed by Joe Dante and 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:33.360 starring Dennis Quaid, Martin Short, and Meg Ryan. A movie 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:35.760 that I loved as a kid and has just a 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:39.680 fabulously weird love triangle at the heart of it. So 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:40.720 let's jump right in. 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:50.040 Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.720 Hey you, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb, 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:02.120 and today I have a returning special guest co host. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.959 We're joined once more by David Streepy of the Talking 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.119 TOFU podcast. Dave, welcome back to the show. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.800 Thank you, thanks for having me back, and hello to 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.960 all the stuffies. I think I think we agreed that 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.360 they're called, so hello again to all of you. Glad 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:18.880 to be back. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.840 That's right, we're gonna be talking about the gate three right, yes, no, 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:23.800 I wish. 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:28.640 Oh my god, could you imagine Old Man Terry now? 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.200 Instead, we're gonna be We were talking about like a 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:34.680 handful of potential movies and we ended up going with 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.559 the one. I think this one was probably the one 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.240 that you brought up that was the most holiday friendly, 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.440 and I think might be a stealth holiday film because 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.240 I did see a Santa Claus at one point. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.840 That's all it takes to qualify, really, and this did 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.040 happen in California, so really you're only cues that it 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.240 is the holidays and a West Coast movie are from 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.680 the decorations and not from climate or any anything else 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.920 that's going on. Yeah, we did have we had a 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.120 bunch of really strong contenders for possibilities, but I think 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:09.560 this one, in addition to its appropriateness, it's the it's 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:13.200 a big one, but it kind of made a small 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.359 splash and a big splash at the same time. It's 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:16.440 really really unique. 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.520 Yeah, I don't feel like Interspace, the movie you're talking 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.920 about in nineteen eighty seven's Interspace. This is Joe Dante. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.400 Film got a great cast, I mean, starring Dennis Quaid, 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:31.440 Martin short, Meg Ryan. I mean, it came out big 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:35.160 summer special effects movie apparently made money. This was not 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:40.600 a box office bomb by any stretch, and it amazed 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.160 a lot of kids. I was one of those kids 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.440 who watched this film multiple times. I guess I maybe 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.000 saw it on TV the first time and then maybe 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.400 just rented it a bunch of times after that on VHS. 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.520 But I was super into this picture. I would make 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:58.840 little lego models roughly based on the two main submarine 0:02:58.880 --> 0:02:59.840 bots in the film. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.200 Yeah, I think that you're right this one definitely. I 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.000 don't think it was a flop at the box office, 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:09.119 but maybe had higher hopes given the pedigree of everybody involved. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.120 But I think it was a big renter. It was 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.320 a big VHS. I remember having a huge presence at 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:18.160 the video store, both in cardboard cutout, but also the 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.799 number of copies that were on the shelves. The availability 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.960 of the copies that were on the shelves. This movie 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:28.200 seemed to turn up quite a bit in sleepovers on 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.639 trips where you would get five bucks to go to 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.800 the video store and pick something out. I just remember 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:38.000 seeing this movie a lot, a lot, and I think 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.880 I mentioned this too. I texted you this while I 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.720 was rewatching recently there's like a whole hour of this 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.840 movie that I completely forgot about in the middle. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.840 Yeah, yeah, I mean it's easy to expect with an 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.000 effects film like this, you have your big effects sequences, 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.400 you have your big finale. Those are the ones that 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.080 certainly stuck in my head the most. Also, some of 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.960 the like the Martin Short over the top freak out moment, 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.720 which I mean, if you're going to hire Martin Short, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.840 especially you know during the eighties or the nineties or 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:08.880 well or subsequent decades, you're going to want at least 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:09.480 a little of that. 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.200 Or even now. Yeah, I think that's that's still a 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.400 stock in trade, and I think that, you know what, 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.840 I kind of maybe tuned out and we'll get to it, 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:21.280 of course. But what didn't really stick on my memory 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.400 was all the work needed to move Martin Short around 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:28.480 the board. Yes, and upon a rewatch, it's pretty compelling 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.280 stuff that's moving him around the board, But like you said, 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.800 I'm more fascinated with what's going on inside his body, 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.240 what the tech looks like, how he got there in 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:37.640 the first place, and how he's going to get out 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.240 of that situation. And there's a huge chunk in the 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.839 middle of that sandwich that I wasn't really thinking about. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.440 Yeah, it's a film that is, it's constantly in motion. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:51.920 It keeps adding new elements, often wild elements, on top 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.799 of characters. Yeah, new characters. There's a whole whole cast 0:04:55.880 --> 0:05:00.160 of villains in this picture, as we'll discuss. So it's 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.599 it's never boring. It's in constant motion. It is like 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.120 Martin Short as a film. 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.400 Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Martin Short 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.080 film film modified. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.159 Now, this is, of course a miniaturization film if you're 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.960 I think everyone out there is familiar with this subgenre 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.280 of science fiction by now, with the classic example being 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:26.360 Fantastic Voyage. This is essentially Fantastic Voyage through Martin Short. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.080 I don't know that we've had a menturization film recently. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.640 It seems like more recently you tend to see it 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.640 pop up like as a treatment on some sort of 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.640 a science fiction show. I think Rick and Morty did 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:41.400 a miniaturization episode years back, and I don't know that 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.200 we've had any kind of like big Fantastic Voyage style 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:45.680 adventure recently. 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.320 I think the one that stands out to me, and 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.320 it's not a movie, but the Futurama episode where Fry 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:55.560 eats an egg salad sandwich from a gas station. That's 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:59.839 a great one. The parasites from the sandwich colonize his body, 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.240 become super intelligent and have a whole civilization in there, 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.080 and they have to go inside to reconcile that. 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:10.000 Yes, that's a great one because it's it's fantastic voyage themed, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:14.120 but it is also a Flowers for Algernon themed episode, 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.440 so it has a fair amount of depth to it 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.720 as well. And then just a lot of great jokes, 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.719 and there's the whole worm thing, like why are people 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.719 came over on the sandwich? Great stuff? All right, let's 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.839 go ahead and listen to at least some of the 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.320 trailer audio here. Let's let it roll. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:40.320 Test pilot Tuck Pendleton wants to make history. Supermarket clerk 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.120 Jack Putter needs a vacation. I'm very late. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:44.920 That's not good. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:46.200 You know, it's coupon day. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:50.800 Lieutenant Pendleton is about to be miniaturized, placed into this needle, 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.200 and then injected into this. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:59.600 Rabbit rock and roll. But something went wrong. 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:06.159 And Tuck's about to get a new destination inside. Jack Putter. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.360 Give yourself a shot of Adventure Inner Space. 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:19.680 All right, David, I see you had a note here 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.280 about the music in the trailer, possibly the trailer we 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.600 used here, but possibly another trailer. But still, this is 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.360 a great point regarding the music. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.840 Yeah, this is the music used for the Fertelly chase 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:36.480 scene in Goonies, the dun dun't dun't dun't. It's always 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.320 great when a podcast guest just like hums a line, no, 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:43.640 timelessly for you. But it's really really it's the opening 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.440 scene of Gooney. It's really iconic bit of music. Cool 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:48.960 to see it here, but also a little bit strange 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:49.640 to see it here too. 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.080 Yeah, it's like when you encounter a trailer where they're 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:55.320 clearly using the Aliens theme song. You know, it's like, 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.480 that's great, you're really getting me amped up, but amped 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.680 up for a different movie, right. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.080 Just kind of duck through the drawer for it and 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.400 got something that you knew I would recognize and knew 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:06.040 would pull me in. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.480 I guess they still do this today, right, use because 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.920 the music's not always together when you're putting together a trailer, 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.680 or you're just like, well, we have rights to better music, 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:16.040 let's sell this puppy. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.000 Yeah, I think that's you know, the marketing can be 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.400 that detached from the actual production that unless you've got 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.520 the Star Wars theme ready to go with your Star 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:29.240 Wars trailer, you're gonna take some liberties. And it really, 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:33.000 you know, matches the tone of the movie in a 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.200 way that if you weren't again hyper familiar with Goony 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.080 is the way that I was as a kid. That 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:42.600 was the other video that I was renting. The music 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.720 fits the tone of the trailer, fits the tone of 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.320 the movie really really well. It's a wacky, wacky movie. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.960 Yeah, absolutely, all right. So some of you might be wondering, well, 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.800 where can I watch Innerspace before proceeding with the rest 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.200 of the episode. Well, luckily for you, this was a 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.719 major motion pictures it has not been entirely forgotten it 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.079 to make not as celebrated as it should be. But 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.679 you can find streams of it, you know, digital rentals 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.679 and purchases. A Blu Ray edition is out there, and 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.640 I do notice that it has an older director's commentary 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:15.600 on it with director Joe Dante, producer Michael Finnell, co 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:20.000 stars Kevin McCarthy and Robert Piccardo, and also visual effects 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:25.320 supervisor Dennis Murrean obviously an older director's commentary. I haven't 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.400 listened to it, but I don't think I've ever listened 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:31.079 to a Joe Dante commentary track. But he's one of 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.120 those guys that's so knowledgeable. I bet it's bet it's 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:33.640 pretty great. 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.160 That's really interesting that Kevin McCarthy and Robert Piccardo would 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.960 be the sit ins on that commentary and not Quaid 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.520 or Short or even Meg Ryan. 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:44.839 Well, you know, sometimes you can't get the big fish. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:46.439 They move on to other projects. 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:50.040 I don't know, and there are their presence in the 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.720 movie is pretty significant. These guys are not bit players 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.600 at all. They're they're huge parts of the movie. 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.880 Plus with Joe Dante, you know that he loves like 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.120 an old, older act, you know, from classic Hollywood pictures. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.920 So you know, there's Kevin McCarthy, and then he loves 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.920 to cast Robert Riccardo and put him in strange romantic 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:14.640 situations such as with the made up Grimlin from Grimlins Too'. 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.480 He's so weird in this movie is character. 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:29.000 I can't wait to get into that character. Yeah all right, 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.280 well let's talk a bit more about the people involved here, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.960 starting with Joe Dante born nineteen forty six. Joe and 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.559 I have previously discussed Joe Dante on Weird House Cinema 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.000 because we talked about Grimlins too. One of the things 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.120 that I pointed out, just sort of to try and 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.839 sum him up, is that he's one of these guys 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.440 that seems to have a foot in two worlds, Like, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.480 on one hand, he's like a horror legend, and on 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.280 the other hand he's this, you know, obvious Spielbergian Amblin 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.840 entertainment guy. And you see more of the second, but 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.160 also a little the first in this one. On the 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.480 horror front, you have the likes of the Howling from 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.360 eighty one, Piranha from seventy eight, and then you get 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.079 into that Grimlin zone, which is kind of crossing the threshold. 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.720 He directed the segment It's a Good Life in Twilight Zone, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.920 the movie from nineteen eighty three, But then he also 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.400 did things like nineteen eighty five, It's The Explorers, eighty 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.120 nine's The Birds, nineteen ninety three, He's Manatee, and this 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.559 film especially, Yeah, it is definitely in that ambulance zone. 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.080 It is an ambulin entertainment picture. 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:30.040 Yeah, he's definitely. You know, he's he's this sounds like 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.040 a dig but I don't mean it that way. He 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.080 is like a ranch dressing of a director in that 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.880 he can go in any direction. I think he's got 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:42.400 strong horror chops, but he really shines when he's bringing 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.520 a bunch of different elements to a bunch of different 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:50.400 genres to the movie and creating something that's completely unique. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.000 See it in Grimlins one hundred percent, and you really 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:57.000 see it here where the slapstick wouldn't work without the 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:01.240 spy espionage angle, without the tech angle, without the sci 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.960 fi element of it, Like it all blends together and 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.520 creates something that is really his signature, you know. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.079 Yeah, And I would argue that it even feels more 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:15.360 cohesive than Grimlin's. Grimlin's certainly a better known film, but 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.800 that's one that I always felt like it didn't completely 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.200 know what it wanted to be. This film, I feel 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:25.199 like it balances everything pretty nicely. You know, nothing feels 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:25.720 out of step. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.040 I agree. I think that he's having fun here, and 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.520 not to say that Grimlins is not fun, but Grimlins 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.040 feels like it's trying to send you a message as well. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.400 And I think there's no message here. The message is 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:41.840 what if this happened? 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:49.200 Let's watch and let's keep upping the anti Yeah, yeah, oh, 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:54.320 I have a post editing insertion to make here. You 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.840 might have caught my mistake there. I just referenced a 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.800 nineteen ninety three Joe Dante movie that I said was 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:05.440 called called Manatee. The film is, of course Mattine. But 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.920 I left the mistake in because I don't know about you, 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.720 but I'm suddenly really fascinated with the idea of a 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:17.320 nineteen ninety three Joe Dante film about manates Who knows 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.160 what that would have consisted of. All right, now, let's 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:23.520 get back into the episode. Let's see getting into the 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.360 writers on this. Jeffrey Boehm, who lived nineteen forty six 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.640 through two thousand, has I believe the main screenplay credit here. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.080 Accomplished American screenwriter whose credits include seventy eight Straight Time, 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.040 eighty three's The Dead Zone, eighty seven's The Lost Boys, 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.520 eighty nine's Indiana Jones, and In the Last Crusade, as 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.240 well as a couple of lethal weapon movies. He also 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.240 directed and wrote one episode of Tales from the Crypt 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:46.800 titled Creep Course. 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.280 Wow. I mean this is just home Run after Home Run. Yeah. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.360 Yeah, he was involved in a lot of big projects. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.600 The other name on the screenplay also a story and 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.240 co producer credit Chip Prosser born nineteen forty six, writer 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.560 and director, probably best known for this film that we 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:06.080 also work in the screenplay for to some degree. I'm 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.920 I'm not sure to what degree with nineteen eighty four 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:09.560 is Iceman? 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:11.680 So is this a Top Gun prequel? 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.600 No, it is an unfrozen cave man movie, all right. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.040 Now getting into the cast for Innerspace, it is pretty 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.280 extensive with some great bit parts and cameos, which is 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:26.000 pretty standard for Joe Dante. So I'm going to try 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.360 to either go light on a number of them and 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.080 just skip some as well, and then also maybe come 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.440 back just in passing to some of the cameos as 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.600 they turn up. But the star, and I mean, really 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:41.440 this is this is a picture that has a trio 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:45.440 of leads. But Top Build anyway, is Dennis Quaid playing 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:46.440 Tuck Pendleton? 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:49.040 What a name? 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:53.320 Yeah, the names are pretty great. Tuck Pendleton is the 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.000 you can guess he is like a test pilot. He 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:58.840 would be at home in Top Gun. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:04.160 Yeah, yeah, he's definitely. Look, kid, me couldn't get much 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.560 cooler than this actor in this role. I mean, yeah, 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.640 he in all the worst ways too. I think as 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.480 an adult, I'm a little bit repulsed by his demeanor, 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.840 his swagger. But as a kid, this was eighties cool. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.160 With a little bit of reflection, I can see what 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.920 a rip on Tom Cruise this, this delivery is, and 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.600 it really seems like it's trying. He's trying for a 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:36.560 Maverick type thing, almost Maverick and Iceman merged together to 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.200 be a competent pilot who is also just a big 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:39.920 jerk as well. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.080 Oh my goodness, I didn't even think about the Top 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.080 Gun connection, about this being a riff on Top Gun. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:47.840 That's a film that kind of for me, it kind 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:49.600 of stands out of time for me, like I don't 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.080 necessarily think about it in connection to other projects. But 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.120 now that you've pointed out, yeah, I can't unsee it. 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.160 I think that you know, I made the mistake of 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.520 using these films as cues for how to act in 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:04.880 real life, which I think is a frequent eighties kid misstep. 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:10.600 But because of the frequency of viewing of this interspace 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:15.400 goonies Top Gun, it created a person that was very 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.880 not organic to me and and stuck out like a 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.560 soort of thumb whenever I would try to use it. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.160 Yeah, I mean, he's not the it's not the worst 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.560 role model you could latch onto as far as a 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.920 lead character in an eighties picture. But yeah, he's he's 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.520 obnocked right right from the get go. He's obnoxious, he's drunk, 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.880 He clearly is a mess, and but he's he's portrayed 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.840 as a likable man, a lovable mess. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.080 Yeah, it's a very very kind and funny take on 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:47.520 alcohol because he's drunk for a lot of the movie, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.960 and alcohol is his motivation in a lot of cases. 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.800 He will get to it, but designs a robot to 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.440 pour a drink for him and does it poorly. One 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.080 of his big orders of business for Martin Short is 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:04.000 to pour some outlcohol for him. He's really booze centered. 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:08.439 Just drinking giant molecules of whiskey, as we'll get back to. 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.959 But yeah, I mean, Dennis Quaid, this is not an 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.119 actor that we really need to introduce much. I think 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.600 everybody knows who Dennis Quaid is, famous leading man brother 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.720 of Randy. Credits go back to the mid seventies, and 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.800 he's really been in all sorts of stuff, Like it's 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.960 really weird to look through his filmography, like just looking 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.040 at twenty twenty four. He managed to star in the 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:33.680 GOP Cinematic Universe film Reagan as Reagan, and he played 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.040 a major role in the body horror film The Substance. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.120 Oh, I have not seen The Substance yet. I'm excited 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:39.560 to though. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:41.640 Yeah, I haven't seen anither of him yet. I'm gonna 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:43.920 I probably need to do him back to back. But yeah, 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.600 his career that was full of stuff like this, Like 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.159 it's a mix of genre films and mainstream dramas and 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.800 comedies as well as biopicks. I think he played Jerry 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.440 Lee Lewis in a biopick at one point, So yeah, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.639 it's kind of hard to pin him down. I think, 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.359 for my money, when I think of Dennis Quaid films, though, 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:06.880 I instantly think of nineteen eighty five's Enemy Mine, where 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:11.440 it's it's Dennis Quaid Lewis gossip junior, human and alien 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.639 on a strange alien world. I was always very captivated 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:15.200 by that one. 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.000 For me, it's this movie. This is the image that 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.439 instantly comes to mind is his image from the poster, 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:26.400 which is, you know, he looks very handsome. He's got 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:30.440 a joker gran a Jack Nicholson joker grin that's maybe 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.919 digitally enhanced to be a little bit bigger than it 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.800 should be, and it just really sells his swagger. You know, 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:38.720 that look on his face, the way it's on the 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.880 poster really sells who he is in this movie. 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.920 Yeah, Yeah, he's having a great time. Yeah all right. 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.640 Our other main character that Dennis Quade's character is going 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.560 to be inside of in a miniaturized form is the 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:56.439 character Jack Putter, played by Martin Short born nineteen fifty 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:00.679 another name that scarcely requires introduction. Martin Short is just 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:02.040 a comedy legend. 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.280 Yeah. I don't know what to say about Martin Short, 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:07.520 so sorry that you had me on your podcast, But 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.840 he's just great. I mean, he's he's been a part 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.960 of my comedic sensibility since I was very very young. 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.439 In every role that he's in, from Three Amigos all 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.760 the way to only Mergers in the Building, he's just 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:24.800 fantastic and he is himself. He delivers every time, and 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:31.760 he's a chameleon in appearance. But his sensibility, his timing, 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:36.440 his slapstick is always very very Martin Short specific. I 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.040 think my favorite role of his has got to be 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.879 Jiminy Glick, a huge Click fan, and I was delighted 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.679 this past year when he reprised the role and did 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:46.760 a few more bits of him. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.280 Yeah. I mean, he's one of those actors that when 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.560 I when I think of Martin Short, I instantly think 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.600 of those really you know, over the top in high 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.479 energy characters. I think of of Glick, I think of 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.240 Ed Grimley, of course, his character on Arrested Development, Jack Dorso, 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.800 you know, and he's he's great at that, and he's 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:07.480 great at those like freak out performances in a way 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:09.480 that they are very I feel like there are very 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.639 few actors I would even compare him to, like maybe 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:13.520 you know, compare him to the likes of you know, 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.560 Robin Williams or or Jim Carrey even you know where 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:21.000 they can they can hit that level of intensity, comedic intensity. 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.200 But then I would also compare him to the other 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.600 two in that, especially when you look at some recent 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:29.439 Martin Short performances, like he's he's a really strong actor, 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.800 you know, he's he's really great in these smaller non 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:36.439 comedic roles or stretches as well. And I think you 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:40.520 really see that on Only Murders in the Building, a 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.399 great TV series, obviously comedic series that doesn't take itself 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:48.560 itself too seriously, and he's surrounded by great actors and actresses, 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:54.400 but I am most frequently impressed by the smaller moments 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:55.840 with his character on that show. 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.560 Yeah, I think, especially in Only Murders in the Building, 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.199 I think he does a really good job of representing 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:05.560 not just the comedic bits, but the building itself and 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.000 life in the building and what it means to be 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.119 at that stage of your life in that building and 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:12.840 getting on in years, and what that means for your 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:17.160 relationship with your family. And yeah, that's never, not never, 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.360 it's rarely the focus. But when it is, or when 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.400 it turned to that, it doesn't seem out of character 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.560 or a stretch for him to be believable in those 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:28.680 somber moments. 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.600 Yeah. So I don't think we see as much from 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:36.840 him along those lines in interspace, but again, certainly in 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:41.560 other projects, he was also really good. Recently in the 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.160