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Speaker 1: This is let's be clear with Shannon Dherny. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: be clear about a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: Number one, Shannon and the nineties and stop the Insanity.

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Speaker 2: I am Susan Powder, otherwise known as Stop the Stop

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Speaker 2: the Insanity, Lady of the nineties, Fitness nineties and nine

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Speaker 2: oh two one oh. So it's such a pleasure, such

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Speaker 2: a pleasure to be here, and let's be clear. And

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Speaker 2: there's a lot I would like to be clear about.

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Speaker 2: So I was thinking last night. I was thinking last

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Speaker 2: night about obviously doing this podcast, and I was thinking

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Speaker 2: about Shannon. I was thinking about the experience she shared, good, bad,

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Speaker 2: or indifferent, the sharing of it and what used to

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Speaker 2: be known as storytelling is now a very different thing.

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Speaker 2: I know that because what stopped the insanity was, and

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Speaker 2: for those who don't know it was, it was the

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Speaker 2: nineties of wellness and eat, breathe, move and think and

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Speaker 2: you know, lean strong and healthy and crazy woman with

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Speaker 2: short white hair that did not exist anywhere else, screaming

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Speaker 2: on TV and blah blah blah. But what stopped the

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Speaker 2: insanity was it was storytelling. And what used to be

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Speaker 2: storytelling is now information sharing. And that's what Shannon did

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Speaker 2: for years and years, through a horrifying battle and a

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Speaker 2: brave battle. She shared an experience that nobody really I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, the last thing you want to share.

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Speaker 1: Probably is HI, I have cancer.

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Speaker 2: But that sharing of the experience, I know, changed thousands

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Speaker 2: and thousands and thousands of lives, made millions of people

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Speaker 2: aware of things you may not have thought about. Stop

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Speaker 2: the insanity literally started, and it was massive. It started

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Speaker 2: by me sharing my experience. I just talked about an

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Speaker 2: experience of being single mother in Garland, Texas in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Stop the insanity. It was the nineties. I would like

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Speaker 2: to just make that clear. The eighties was when I

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Speaker 2: woke up one day with two babies a year apart,

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Speaker 2: and then we call him the Prince Forever, decided.

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Speaker 1: He was an into marriage anymore and left.

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Speaker 2: So going through a divorce, single mom a year apart,

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Speaker 2: my children were and I woke up one day and

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Speaker 2: there I was at way over two hundred pounds, not

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Speaker 2: liking the way I looked or felt at all. I

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Speaker 2: did not like the way I looked and felt. I

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Speaker 2: didn't like the energy I didn't have. I didn't like

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Speaker 2: the disconnection from my body. I changed the way I

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Speaker 2: looked and felt. I lost well over one hundred pounds.

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Speaker 2: I got strong, I built lean, muscle mass, I built

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Speaker 2: cardio durance. How I did that is the story and

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Speaker 2: was the story of Stop the Insanity. But the reason

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Speaker 2: it became anything was because I spoke with other women,

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Speaker 2: literally in the supermarket I would be the supermarket. Piggly

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Speaker 2: Wiggly was the supermarket in Garland, Texas in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it may still exist. I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: I had never heard of a supermarket called Piggly Wiggly,

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Speaker 2: but that's where I shopped with my two babies, and

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Speaker 2: women would say, like passing babies.

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Speaker 1: We had babies, you know.

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Speaker 2: I had a one and a two year old sitting

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Speaker 2: hours and sixty pounds. And all I did was change

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Speaker 2: the way I eat, and I changed movement, and I

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Speaker 2: added oxygen to my life. And women would gather in

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Speaker 2: the aisles of the grocery store. There was no TV,

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Speaker 2: there was no seven books, there was no nine Platinum videos.

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Speaker 2: There was no Simon and Schuster, Time Warner, every television,

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Speaker 2: there was none of that.

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Speaker 1: There was none of that.

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Speaker 2: Everything that Stopped the Insanity was was based on sharing

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Speaker 2: in the early eighties in Texas.

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Speaker 1: And while you're.

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Speaker 2: Doing that, trying to reconnect again with my body, it

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Speaker 2: is the women that blew that whole thing up, and

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Speaker 2: they understood a message.

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Speaker 1: The message that is simple.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no physiology degree, there's no there's no anything.

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Speaker 2: I heard a few things that dramatically changed my life.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have the internet.

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Speaker 2: Then everybody listening knows that, like you don't have to

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Speaker 2: How do I lose so much weight? How do I

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Speaker 2: I heard a couple of facts that change my life forever,

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Speaker 2: just like I'm sure all of you who are loyal listeners,

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Speaker 2: podcast that it's still going strong, which is kind of

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Speaker 2: thrilling and bravo Shannon. I mean for real, you know,

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Speaker 2: Lean muscle mass was metabolically the most active tissue in

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Speaker 2: I heard those two facts a thousand years ago. I

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