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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull.

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Speaker 2: That for me, I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: be happy. You want to be happy for day Ato State?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 5: And no, Dan and tie.

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Speaker 4: Dan Rubinstein, Congratulations, my good friend. We have completed our

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Speaker 4: eighteenth regular season as a college football show. Not to

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Speaker 4: make us all feel old here, but it's been a

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Speaker 4: wild ride the whole way through. But certainly with respect

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Speaker 4: to the twenty twenty five college football season, Dan, we

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Speaker 4: have results to discuss. We have much to discuss here.

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Speaker 4: My rivalry week has come to a conclusion, sir, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: How are you good? I mean there's still what Stanford

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame at time of recording. Are there any other

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Speaker 1: active games? I saw Cal got by SMU with obviously

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Speaker 1: huge acc implications late in the evening. Is there anything

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Speaker 1: else ongoing? And I'm not talking about with playoff implications.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about conference implications. I'm talking about pure

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Speaker 1: emotional implications going into this long, cold off season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we've got UNLV still in progress, We've

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Speaker 4: got Fresno State and Wyoming still in progress. But by

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Speaker 4: and large, we are winding down here as we come

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Speaker 4: on the airwaves tonight, okay, midnight. We did a live

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Speaker 4: stream on Friday night during Texas Texas A and M,

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Speaker 4: which of course we will discuss on today's reaction stream.

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Speaker 4: We did a live stream earlier today looking at the

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Speaker 4: Ohio State Michigan game, Ohio State finally getting over the

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Speaker 4: hump snap in their four game losing streak. Of course

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Speaker 4: we will talk about that game as well. We have

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Speaker 4: much to discuss here as we have conference championship matchups

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Speaker 5: I will get to that as well.

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Speaker 4: We also have a bunch of dood alerts and we're

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Speaker 4: going to do our normal thing here running through all

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Speaker 4: of the action that was Dan Rubinstein. I thought as

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Speaker 4: potentially be the final reverb segment. I thought maybe we

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Speaker 4: I used to use the reverbs as sort of a

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Speaker 4: moose boush yeah, a launching point, an appetizer, and icebreaker.

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Speaker 5: So if this is the end for the reverbs, I

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Speaker 4: We can discuss that in the off season, but it

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Speaker 4: is the end for this regular season. Let's hear from

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Speaker 4: the verbalerhood. Let's get this thing started off on the

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Speaker 4: right foot. We'll pick it up on the flip side.

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Speaker 4: Here are your rivalry week reverbs.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Dan and Zai, this is Tommy calling in from

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Speaker 6: Point Pleasant, New Jersey, and I just wanted to give

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Speaker 6: the verbalers an update on someone who called in earlier

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Speaker 6: in the season. I just proposed to my girlfriends and Babe,

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Speaker 6: what do you got to say? I think we may

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Speaker 6: be the first solid verbosal todlu Go Tigers.

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Speaker 5: All right, this is Chester from Columbus. Hey, this is

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Speaker 3: Hey, this is Caleb from Albuquerque. The New Mexico Lobos

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Speaker 3: had one of their best wins in thirty years today.

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Speaker 3: The stadium was packed. We won in double overtime. We're

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Speaker 3: going to the conference championship. And then Bronco Minden Hall

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Speaker 3: ruined it again. God, I hate you Bronco Minden Hall.

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Speaker 3: Two thousand days and the Bucks finally got it done.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be weirder when I called that.

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Speaker 7: So if you do the math, Michigan paid Bryce Underwood.

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Speaker 5: They paid him one point five million dollars per completion.

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Speaker 2: I'm walking out of Michigan Stadium in the snow, and

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Speaker 2: this is the best day ever.

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Speaker 6: Investco QQQ more like Investco Turkey, back yard football, pumpkin

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Speaker 6: pie and beating little.

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Speaker 5: Brother hook them damn horn.

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Speaker 2: My disappointment isn't measurable, and my wife is runned to

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Speaker 4: It's a day later, and I'm still basking in the fact.

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Speaker 1: That the iowahaw Gys and the Chicago Bears won a

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Speaker 6: Gohawks, Baby got you moss from a snowy day up

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Speaker 1: It's just like Luke Fickle. The axe has been retained

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Speaker 2: You know. I agree with the hog fans that this

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Speaker 5: I received many thoughtful, touching.

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Speaker 2: Gifts for my friends and family on this November twenty nine,

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Speaker 5: The cop is coming home bear down. I never doubted

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Speaker 1: Sorry to all of my sheracuse friends.

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Speaker 2: On bass of my Boston College Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I also don't know what happens two and ten.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, Just like we drew it up, Dan

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Speaker 2: One set of accounting majors from New Jersey is crying.

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Speaker 1: Wahoo, wah, baby go.

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Speaker 5: Who's so?

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Speaker 7: If we can all agree that the college Football Playoff

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Speaker 7: is an entertainment product for making money, why wouldn't you

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Speaker 7: want arch manning in your entertainment product? Your move CFP committee,

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Speaker 4: If this truly be the final reverb line, I have

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Speaker 5: All of your school stink, Mine is the only good one.

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Speaker 5: Stay solid, all right? What a batch of reverbs.

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Speaker 4: Thank you to our chief reverb engineer Shay for cutting

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Speaker 4: those together. The reverbline officially closed, at least for now,

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Speaker 4: Dan Rubinstein, we appreciate the verballerhood getting us off on

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Speaker 4: the right foot, where do you think the most appropriate

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Speaker 4: place is to start? Now that we've got Week fourteen

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Speaker 4: the field, off the field, you name it.

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Speaker 5: Where do you want to go first?

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin just pooped, and I guess we're going to

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Speaker 4: Are you hinting that maybe you're tired of the incessant

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Speaker 5: Is that what I am detecting here?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean I have so many playoff memories involving

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the Texas game. How about that? It

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Speaker 4: We did a live stream on Friday night and this

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Speaker 4: A and M and Texas the Lone Star Showdown returning

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Speaker 5: But this game evolved in a really strange way. You know.

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Speaker 4: It went from I thought early looking like arch Manning

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Speaker 5: His game were on.

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Speaker 4: Texas started to actually lean on its run game. It

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Speaker 1: Yes, nook. It was a disappointing first half for arch

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Speaker 4: It was I was really impressed with Texas's ability to

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Speaker 4: I mean it's clean, old fashioned hate. As with most

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Speaker 5: And Georgia just says, alligator blood this year.

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Speaker 4: Man, they just keep freaking hanging around. Can't kill them.

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Speaker 4: This game was nuts. I was on pins and needles

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Speaker 4: And then just speaking personally as somebody who has a

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Speaker 5: We will talk about that game.

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Speaker 4: It didn't just knock them off, handle them. Yeah, took

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how Auburn fans have put themselves through

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Speaker 1: This is like twelve straight decades.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, every play of the Auburn offense is either

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Speaker 4: So clearly Alabama rose to the moment when they had to,

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Speaker 4: and ultimately they lost it on fumble. Fittingly, they lost

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Speaker 5: Auburn football in twenty twenty five. This is a hell

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Speaker 1: Man. You just think you can fire Hugh Freese and

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you do this and sustain it

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Speaker 4: because this is finally over now and you can move on,

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Speaker 5: To a more stable place.

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Speaker 1: It's never over, Ty. We're about to have signing day

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Speaker 1: right that you're just being followed by this misery. It's

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Speaker 1: So yes, I mean the end of this game was wild,

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Speaker 1: Then absolutely hound Ty Simpson in the Alabama offense and

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Speaker 1: at least get to midfield for a heave, completely muff

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Speaker 1: the punt. The returner tries to catch it with his larynx.

442
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Speaker 4: I don't know what the plan was there here whatever,

443
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Speaker 4: This is like where your collar bones meet the sternum.

444
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Speaker 5: That's where he tried to catch the punt.

445
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: It fumbles. It just bounces straight up into the air

446
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: to four awaiting Alabama players who all somehow bat it

447
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: out of bounds, giving Auburn even more life, but taking

448
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: off a few seconds off the clock. Ashton Daniels both

449
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: doesn't there's no plan at the end. He both doesn't

450
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: throw like a quick outer or crossing pattern to get

451
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: out of bounds, hopefully closer to midfield. He's just immediately besieged,

452
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: tries to make a play and basically gets two seconds

453
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: left on the clock after completing a pass. Is in

454
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: shotgun formations, so not even attempting a miraculous spike, and

455
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: they attempt some sort of miracle play that goes nowhere,

456
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Speaker 1: and there's the ending.

457
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Speaker 4: There were some controversial calls and no calls in this

458
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 4: game as well. Always has very much been the theme

459
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Speaker 4: of twenty twenty five as well. If we are putting

460
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Speaker 4: a bow on this thing, so this game had at

461
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Speaker 4: all just whether you're a Bama fan an Auburn fan,

462
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Speaker 4: God bless you.

463
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Speaker 5: If you're an fan, oh my god, or if.

464
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Speaker 4: You're a fan of the SEC, or just college football

465
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 4: in general, this was a hell of an ending.

466
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Speaker 5: You love to see great.

467
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Speaker 1: I think if you're an Alabama fan, you're walking through

468
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Speaker 1: a car wash after that one too.

469
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Speaker 5: My god. Yeah, I'm not a fan of either team.

470
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Speaker 5: I'm walking through a car wash. That was nuts.

471
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Speaker 4: So your final score twenty seven to twenty. Alabama finishes

472
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Speaker 4: the year ten and two. They are going to the

473
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Speaker 4: SEC Championship Game for a rematch with the Georgia Bulldogs.

474
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 4: That one's going to take place on Saturday at four

475
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 4: pm Eastern time. There was some other SEC action, but

476
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Speaker 4: I do want to move on and talk about some

477
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 4: other conferences and we can circle back to the likes

478
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Speaker 4: of Oklahoma and others, and maybe Old miss as well.

479
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 4: I don't want to lead off with the Lane Kiff

480
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 4: and stuff, because it feels like the whole world has

481
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 4: gone full Lane Kiffin. So let's give everybody a little

482
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Speaker 4: taste of what else took place in college football.

483
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Speaker 1: I'm told Lane Kiffin just had a granola bar.

484
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Speaker 4: Continue and then we could come back, yeah, and talk

485
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 4: about mister Lane Kiffin.

486
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Speaker 5: If that's okay with everybody else there, let's talk about

487
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 5: the Ohio State Michigan game.

488
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Speaker 4: Okay, Ohio State Michigan. Obviously, this game is a ton

489
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Speaker 4: of fanfare. It is known as the game Michigan had

490
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Speaker 4: won four in a row. This one was in ann Arbor.

491
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 4: There were snow flurries about the stadium that intensified as

492
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Speaker 4: the game were on. By the end of the game,

493
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 4: we had a nice little light layer. Yeah, freshly fallen

494
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: snow on the Michigan Stadium turf. It was Ohio State

495
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 4: finally getting over the hump, knocking off the Michigan Wolverine

496
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Speaker 4: s dan. We did a live stream for this one.

497
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 4: Had a great turnout. Appreciate everybody stopping on by. You know,

498
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: it felt like Michigan got off to a nice start.

499
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:19,239
Speaker 4: It really did.

500
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Speaker 5: They weren't able to get touchdowns no.

501
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: But or touchdown singular, yeah.

502
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 4: Or touchdown singular. It felt like they got off to

503
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 4: a nice start though the crowd was into it. It

504
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: felt like they had some really early momentum. Julian saying,

505
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: second his first pass was incomplete, his second pass was

506
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 4: underthrown and picked off. So the crowd is going nuts.

507
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: I mean, everybody is into this game, right, But then,

508
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 4: slowly but surely, over the course of the next let's say,

509
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: fifty minutes or so, it just felt to me like

510
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 4: we sort of had a low key crock potting Yeah.

511
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

512
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: It just felt like, very slowly but surely, Ohio State

513
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 4: was cooking.

514
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 5: Yes, they were cooking.

515
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 4: Michigan really couldn't string enough together to build any kind

516
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: of serious momentum, and Ohio State was good enough on

517
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 4: the ground, They were good enough through the air. I

518
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 4: don't know if any element of any of this was spectacular,

519
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 4: but it was good enough to win. Ohio State I thought,

520
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 4: looked really impressive in this matchup, and they went from

521
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: early on maybe trying to play the Michigan style football.

522
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 5: We were on the stream talking.

523
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 4: It through, like are they running the same playbook as

524
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 4: last year's Ohio State Michigan game? Slowly graduated away from that,

525
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 4: started throwing balls over the top. Had some really nice

526
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 4: receiving days to talk about, not as much from Jeremiah Smith,

527
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: but it ended up being a really good day for

528
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 4: Julian saying they ran the ball effectively.

529
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Speaker 5: I thought a complete performance in the.

530
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Speaker 4: End for Ohio State on the road in Michigan Stadium

531
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Speaker 4: to get over the hump.

532
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this morning, this day had it all for Ohio State.

533
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: You mentioned the sort of draining the life out of

534
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: me Chigan drives. Near the end of the game. We

535
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: saw some big plays through the air. We saw more

536
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: of an emergence, a continued emergence from Bo Jackson. On

537
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: the ground, Julian saying remains extremely accurate outside of you know,

538
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: a couple balls here and there. Against Michigan, he was just,

539
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: you know, sort of just crazy efficient. He was a

540
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: killer for Ohio State. We had the like slight bobble

541
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: controversy for Jeremiah Smith.

542
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 5: I think that was a touchback.

543
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: Look, you want to go, you want to take it

544
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: to a thousand frames per second, and you want to

545
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,239
Speaker 1: you want to show me exactly where the bobble was

546
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: in relation to when he crossed the goal line. I

547
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: will watch the zuppruter of the bobble. Yeah, but when

548
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: I see a dB and a defense get cooked like

549
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith cooked them, and the ball slightly shifts as

550
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: he crosses the plane, it's especially with the benefit of

551
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: watching that entire game that had basically no bearing on

552
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: the outcome. I'd love a little bit more explanation from refs.

553
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: I'd love, you know, the transparency that the ACC has

554
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: in going to the sort of command center the HQ.

555
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: But I don't know. For whatever reason that didn't bother

556
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: me so much. Wasn't rooting for Michigan or Ohio State.

557
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: I just watched a great play happen and felt like,

558
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: we don't need to litigate this in super slow mo

559
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: when I was pretty sure it wasn't going to have

560
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: a bearing on the final game. But I get if

561
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: you're a Michigan fan that it's infuriating, and you have

562
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: that right. I'm not going to tell you not to

563
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: be angry. Ohio State just backed him down in the

564
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: post and dunked on him constantly in that second half.

565
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: If I were a Michigan fan, I'd also be infuriated

566
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 1: over whatever the non vision is and game planning and

567
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: play calling is for this offense. You have a true

568
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: freshman quarterback. I understand you're not going to have a

569
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: complicated playbook. He's not going to go through progressions like

570
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: you would for a sophomore, a junior, a senior, or

571
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: something like that it just seems like there's no rhyme

572
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: or reason for this Michigan offense. Now they're playing arguably

573
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: the best defense in America, so there's just always going

574
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: to be limitations about what you're able to do against

575
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: Ohio States defense this season, but it just seemed super

576
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: vanilla and predictable, and in a game like this, this

577
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: is the time to just really go for it, really

578
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: throw everything at Ohio State, do everything you can to

579
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: keep them off balance, especially early on in drives to

580
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: stay ahead of the sticks. And I know Michigan doesn't

581
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: have the talent that they did in these last couple

582
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: of seasons, but man, I just I felt like they

583
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: came into this game with, you know, a plane scoop

584
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: of very bland vanilla ice cream and said, Okay, top chef,

585
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: here we come. And I just I was so disappointed

586
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: with the lack of fire in sort of like intellectually

587
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: behind Michigan's offense that I something needs to change. I

588
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a new coordinator. I don't know

589
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: if it's a new vision for how Like why would

590
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: a receiver transfer in? Why would Bryce Underwood stay obviously financially,

591
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: but like seems so uninspired from the Michigan end, playing

592
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: at home with a ton on the line. Maybe I'm wrong.

593
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

594
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing.

595
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: That game plan has worked, That game plan has worked

596
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: the last couple of years against Ohio State.

597
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: Not with this team this year, with a true freshman quarterback,

598
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: with this offensive line and these limitations that they have

599
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: on offense.

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Speaker 5: I listen. It is not apples to apples.

601
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 4: I understand that, but it looked to me very much

602
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: like some of the Ohio State Michigan games we have

603
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 4: seen recently. And maybe because this Ohio State team had

604
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 4: a better plan.

605
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 5: Maybe it's just because they're better. I believe they're better.

606
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: I think most people believe they're all around a better

607
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: team than Michigan this year. Michigan is still relatively young,

608
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: but it, for whatever reason, did not work as well.

609
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 5: It did feel relatively uninspiring.

610
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: Bryce Underwood was eight of eighteen for just sixty three

611
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: yards passing and interception. They had a couple nice early

612
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: runs from Jordan Marshall right, but it just never felt

613
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: like they could string enough together to establish any kind

614
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: of real momentum and seriously challenge Ohio State.

615
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 5: Outside of the first.

616
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: Couple minutes of the game. From that point forward, it

617
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 4: was really all Ohio State. And I think it's a

618
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: great metaphor to say they backed them down in the

619
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: post and dunked on them.

620
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: But like a dad with an eight year old, right,

621
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: like an unfair advantage, it seemed in the second half

622
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: because there was no threat from the Michigan offense to

623
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: throw the ball consistently to receivers running intermediate routes, let

624
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: alone deep routes.

625
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 5: No, no, there wasn't.

626
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 4: And you know, on the flip side of it too,

627
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 4: I mean, one of the things that we discussed was, again,

628
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 4: you're gonna have this problem all the time.

629
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 5: If you're playing Ohio State, at least this year.

630
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 4: And I've often used the I Love Lucy comparison for

631
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: our older viewers out there who are familiar with nineteen

632
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: fifty two episodes of I Love Lucy. But the cookies

633
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 4: on the conveyor belt, they're just like, too many things

634
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 4: to keep track of on the Ohio State side, Yeah,

635
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: too many guys to cover, too many different ways that

636
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: they can kill you. And Michigan was up against that,

637
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: as all the teams have been this year. What Michigan

638
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 4: needed to try and do to take away some element

639
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 4: of it was get pressure on, Julian saying, and they couldn't.

640
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 4: They really did not do that. The Ohio State offensive line,

641
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: I thought did a really good job in this game

642
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 4: keeping him upright, giving him time. And when you give

643
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: him time, we talked about it in the build.

644
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 5: Up to this game.

645
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: He had a seventy nine point four percent completion percentage.

646
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is on the season now.

647
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 4: I don't know if he broke the single season record

648
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: or not, but that's beside the point. He's been a

649
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 4: damn accurate passer and when you give him time to

650
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 4: throw to these receivers. Granted, Jeremiah Smith didn't really eat

651
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 4: outside of that touchdown, but the rest of the receiving

652
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: corps did a pretty good job here. Julian Sayin's going

653
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: to beat you. I think we've come to know that

654
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 4: about him in his first year as a starter, and

655
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: Michigan just was not able to upset his rhythm enough

656
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: to get any serious traction here on stopping this offense.

657
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: Twenty seven to nine was your final score. It wasn't

658
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: as if Ohio State went out there and put up

659
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 4: fifty points or anything crazy, but it still felt like

660
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 4: a rather complete and dominating effort from the Buckeyes as

661
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 4: they go on the road to win.

662
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate coming back

663
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: from injury. This Over the course of the season, this

664
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: has been a new look offensive line that I think

665
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: has had some up and down moments relatively speaking when

666
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: you go twelve to zero in the Big Ten, But

667
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: I thought the offensive line was pretty sensational against Michigan today.

668
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Speaker 5: I would agree with that. Ohio State finished as the

669
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Speaker 5: year twelve and oh.

670
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Speaker 4: They are going to the Big Ten Championship to square

671
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: off against the Indiana Whoho Hoosiers DAN.

672
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 5: It has been a.

673
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: Charmed two year run for Indiana. They won fifty six

674
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: to three, took the Old Oaken Bucket a knockoff Perdue Dan.

675
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 4: Been a rough year for Purdue, but they're kind of rebooting.

676
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 5: Under Barry Odom.

677
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: Indiana also finishes the year twelve and oh, which means

678
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: we're going to get a one versus two Big Ten

679
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: title in Indianapolis next week on Fox at Night.

680
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: Yep. And by the way, I just saw that Lane

681
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: Kiffin is having trouble finding his iPhone charger. I don't

682
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: know if you have a breaking nose. He has found

683
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: his iPhone charger. Everything is okay. Continue.

684
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 5: We have had far too many Lane kiffen updates. The latest.

685
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: Now, as we're watching this at halftime or as we're

686
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: recording this, I should say, at halftime of the Notre

687
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 4: Dame game, Lane Kiffin's going to hold a team meeting

688
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 4: Sunday at nine am, whatever that means. So it sounded

689
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 4: as though the sticking point was Lane wants to go

690
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: to LSU, but he wants to coach ole Miss if

691
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 4: he can in the playoff. That obviously presents something of

692
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: a conflict of interest. Perhaps we could debate the merits

693
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: of that as we go on on.

694
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: There's a debate. I'm just saying, unless maybe you work

695
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: you're represented by the same agency as Lane Kiffin, which

696
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: apparently the people shilling for this idea are.

697
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: We can dabble in the marketplace of ideas a little

698
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: bit later on.

699
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 5: I want to talk about other things not named Lane Kiffin.

700
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: That's fine, let's do that.

701
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 5: Let's head on over to the ACC.

702
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it. Holy hell, Dan, Yeah, sorry, the

703
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: ACC Colin Duke runs this bitch. Okay, continue, excuse my language.

704
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

705
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 4: Miami won their game earlier in the day on Saturday

706
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: over Pitt. They won thirty eight to seven. This game

707
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 4: was over pretty much the second it started.

708
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 5: It was apparent. You know, I was high on Pitt.

709
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: I've been talking up Pitt since the beginning of our

710
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: what August, end of July, I've been all in on Pitt.

711
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 4: I thought Pitt, the way Pitt rallied with their new quarterback,

712
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 4: Mason Hydel, all of that was very admirable. Yeah, definitely

713
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 4: agree with of course, for sure. We had made a

714
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: nice little run Boozy Turner last week and lighting up

715
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: Georgia Tech on the road putting up I went four

716
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: hundred plus yards. It was great, had a nice little run,

717
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: and I credit them for what they did. Miami came

718
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 4: out with an ax to grind. They were the better

719
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 4: team from the jump. I had this game on as

720
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: we were doing our live stream of Ohio State Michigan.

721
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: Every time I looked over, it just felt like Miami

722
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: was doing whatever the hell it wanted.

723
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: Yes, did you, by the way, did you see Mario

724
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: Cristo Ball's quote about the weather. Going into this weather, no,

725
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: I did not, so I mentioned that it was going

726
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: to be quite cold in Miami. Obviously it's not a

727
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: place that is quite cold at kickoff and Mario Cristobal said,

728
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as cold weather. Just soft people.

729
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, that was perfect, perfect, Just soft people,

730
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 5: tough people.

731
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Speaker 4: Thirty eight to seven was your final here, and I listen,

732
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: it's hard to watch this game and come away unimpressed

733
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: with Miami. You know, there's a whole playoff conversation that's

734
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 4: going to take place about the Canes and should they

735
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: move up, If so, how far they will not be

736
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 4: playing for the ACC championship. They did not hit the

737
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 4: parlay that we had discussed in previous episodes, but they

738
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 4: want in resounding fashion, and I got to believe that

739
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: the committee is going to reward them to some extent.

740
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 4: To what extent, We're gonna have to wait until Tuesday

741
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 4: night to find that out. But these are exactly the

742
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: types of games that Miami has lost in the past.

743
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 4: We saw it happen last year, big game on the road,

744
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 4: late in the season, perhaps to close out the season.

745
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 5: You gotta win in resounding fashion.

746
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 4: You got to go out on a high note, especially

747
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: if you may not have that extra chapter in a

748
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: conference championship game.

749
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 5: So to that end, Miami passed the assignment.

750
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: I mean, Miami was awesome in this game against Pitt

751
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 4: Day again won by thirty one points on the road

752
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 4: against the Pitt Panthers. That is not the story though

753
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: in the ACC that might be the story with respect

754
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: to the college football playoff rankings debate that has been

755
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 4: ongoing now for what feels like in eternity. The bigger

756
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 4: talking point now is going to be this ACC championship game.

757
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: But who's baby get used to it?

758
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

759
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: The Virginia Cavaliers, uh, well, in twenty seven to seven

760
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 4: over Virginia Tech, Virginia Tix looked like they were ready

761
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 4: to cash it in. Virginia Tech fully mailed it in.

762
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 4: Kyron drones went four of sixteen for seventy eight yards.

763
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Speaker 4: They were two of fourteen on third downs. Virginia Tech

764
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 4: was officially your one, two three cancun Keem of the week. Okay,

765
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 4: scrolling Black Friday deals on the side. They did not

766
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 4: want to be there. Even if they said they did,

767
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 4: they most certainly did not play that way. The Commonwealth

768
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 4: Cup went almost immediately to Virginia. Vaw Tech never had

769
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: anything going. Virginia's opponent in the ACC Championship game is

770
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: going to be seven and five Duke. It is going

771
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 4: to be the Duke Blue Devils because SMU went on

772
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: the road to the hinterlands of the California Golden Bearers, who,

773
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: by the way, just fired their coach and lost by

774
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: a thirty eight to thirty five bargain. Duke playing for

775
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 4: the ACC Championship against Virginia opens up the possibility of

776
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 4: a no bid ACC college football playoff and how likely

777
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: that is. My suspicion is that the committee is going

778
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 4: to roll, at least to some extent, what they saw

779
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 4: from Miami this week. Do they jump Notre Dame, do

780
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: they bounce Notre Dame.

781
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 5: There's gonna be some real.

782
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 4: Debate over what happens on the back end of that

783
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 4: college football playoff field. Yeah, but if seven to five

784
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 4: Duke were to win the ACC Championship, it opens up

785
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 4: the very real and almost likely possibility that the winner

786
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: of the American gets into the playoff. Maybe James Madison

787
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: gets into the playoff, Maybe the winner of the Mountain

788
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: West gets into the playoff, but I think it is

789
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: very likely that you would have two G six teams

790
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: getting in over the conference champion in the ACC only

791
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: if Duke wins. If Virginia wins, then it's probably a

792
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 4: completely different conversation. But just the fact that we are

793
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 4: going into conference championship week and that remains a possibility

794
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: is kind of wild.

795
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 5: In its own right. If I don't say so myself.

796
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: It's what it's gonna be. North Texas Tulane in the

797
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: American Championship Game. So Tulane was ranked. They were the

798
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: lone non quote unquote power conference team ranked in this

799
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: last College of Ball playoff rankings. So they're in a

800
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Speaker 1: position to be ranked ahead of Duke should they beat

801
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: North Texas. And I don't know, you can look at

802
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: James Madison in the A people, however instructional that might

803
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: be instructive. I don't know that might be in terms

804
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: of where the committee's heads might be at with you know,

805
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: how it relates to James Madison, who was going to

806
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: be playing for the Sun Belt next week. That's very real,

807
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: that's extremely real. And have Miami potentially get in not

808
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: even playing for the conference championship game, which we've seen

809
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: in the playoff, a team not playing for in the

810
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: fourteen version, not playing in the conference championship game, but

811
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: making it as not large but just a wild turn

812
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Speaker 1: of events Darien Mensa. By the way, it was a

813
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: good game for Duke, to be clear. Darren Mensa set

814
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: the single season Duke touchdown passes record with I think

815
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven. So a good game for Duke in their rivalry,

816
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: their their comfortable rivalry win over well pseudo rivalry. They

817
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: beat up on Wake, right, But I mean, I don't know,

818
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: all things considered weird non conference portion of their schedule,

819
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: but Duke put themselves in a position and won a

820
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: bunch of ACC games.

821
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 4: Forty nine to thirty two was the final score. I

822
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: did see an interesting thought from our friendical hour back

823
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: from over at NBC.

824
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, who said that the ACC should just override their

825
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 5: tiebreakers to put Miami through.

826
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 4: Put them into the conference championship as only college football

827
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: can do.

828
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 5: Let's do that.

829
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 4: Let's make it even more controversial. I endorse this plan, Nicole,

830
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: thank you for putting me.

831
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: Look, if there's if there's like a little amedman, if

832
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: there's a little is the word I'm looking for Cotta

833
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: sil Tie, I'm at the bottom of this small you've

834
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: ever heard cotta sil Never?

835
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: No.

836
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: I think my dad always threatened me with that whenever

837
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: I would do something wrong and'd be like, I'm gonna

838
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: change the will. I think it's an amendment, like if

839
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: there's like an at the discretion of the commissioner, little

840
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: fine print for the ACC to move forward with Miami. Obviously,

841
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: Miami is very clearly one of the best two teams

842
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,959
Speaker 1: at this point, because, as Tie has been pointing out

843
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: all year long for a couple of years, now, we'll

844
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: know more by December. Tie, And here we are, here.

845
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 5: We knocking on the door almost in December. Baby, it's

846
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 5: gonna be December next week.

847
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: I can say with a good degree of confidence that

848
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: Miami is arguably one of the best two teams in

849
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: the ACC. How about that.

850
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: I'll go with that. Yeah, okay, I'll go with that.

851
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 4: Not much defense in the Duke Wake game. I was

852
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: watching that one because I was just curious to see

853
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 4: if Duke could obviously get the win or if Wake

854
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: could mount the charge. Because if Wake were to win

855
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 4: that game, it would have been what nine and three

856
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: finished the year nine and.

857
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: Three which would have been a great story.

858
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, an incredible story, but four turnovers for Wake, they

859
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: had a bunch of fumbles. It just again they couldn't

860
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 4: really stop Duke, as he said dariy Man, So it

861
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: sort of went off in that game. Forty nine to

862
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: thirty two. Is your final again? Duke is going to

863
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 4: be playing for the conference championship again. We got a

864
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 4: bunch of other games here, Yes, we discussed momentarily, but

865
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 4: let's head on over to the Big twelve and highlight

866
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 4: what went down over there. We've got our conference championship

867
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: games set as Texas Tech against BYU as opposed to

868
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: many of the other games that needed Saturday's action to

869
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 4: tell us what's going to happen.

870
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 5: Who's going to play? When are they going to play?

871
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: We knew this one going into Saturday because Arizona State

872
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: lost the Territorial Cup on Friday night. Because of that,

873
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: it automatically put Texas Tech in BYU threw.

874
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're going.

875
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: To have Texas Tech BYU part DUA coming up next weekend.

876
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: Kind of the most other than I guess the Territorial Cup,

877
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: which was exciting for a stretch, it wasn't great offensively

878
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: for four quarters, but kind of the most boring conference

879
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: in a good way. I say that as a complement,

880
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: like the teams that needed to take care of business

881
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: did so emphatically. A slow star for BYU, but otherwise

882
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: like kind of a good day for a lot of

883
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: teams to finish out their their schedules. Strong.

884
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: Let me let me get something off my chest here

885
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 4: for a second, if I could please. How long has

886
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 4: Brett Yormark.

887
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 5: Been running this conference?

888
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: Now?

889
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 5: How long has it been a couple of years?

890
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: Something like a few two three years?

891
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember came over with much fanfare from rock

892
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: Nation whatever it was.

893
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 5: Remember it was working with Jay Z.

894
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two, August first, twenty twenty two.

895
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty two.

896
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: We've been putting up with a lot of crap from

897
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 4: this guy, and by that I mean just weird ideas, Okay.

898
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: Right, right, weird.

899
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 5: He's got a lot of good ideas, to be clear, Yeah,

900
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 5: many of.

901
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: Which I have supported every now and again. Though there's

902
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 4: a little too much Tony Petiti in him, all right,

903
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: where he comes up with something and he just he's

904
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 4: gonna he's gonna float.

905
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 5: It out there.

906
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 4: Sure, if he would put some of his time and

907
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 4: energy into fixing the Big Twelve's rivalry week instead of

908
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: trying to play games in I don't know, Brazil.

909
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: And Ireland this year, yeah.

910
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 5: Wherever the hell.

911
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 4: If you would put a little bit more elbow grease

912
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: into fixing this week, the conference would be better for it.

913
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: Because we only had the Territorial Cup. Yeah, that was

914
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 4: all we had. We didn't have a Sunflower Showdown. We

915
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 4: didn't have farm again. That one was over in Ireland

916
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: early in the year.

917
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: We used to have Bedlum. Yeah, we didn't have Bedloe.

918
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 5: We don't have the Revivalry. We didn't have the Holy

919
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 5: War this week. Again.

920
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 4: Territorial Cup was nice. But take some time in the

921
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: offseason see what you can. Talk to your member institutions

922
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 4: and see if there is some way to get in

923
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: on this party. Because I hate to see the most

924
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: exciting conference, the Big Twelve, that is always in fux,

925
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 4: that is always up in the air, that is always

926
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 4: a ton of fun to watch the other thirteen weeks

927
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 4: of the season.

928
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 5: I hate to see them be completely left out.

929
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 4: And we got games like byu UCF. That's not a rivalry,

930
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 4: I know, but we get those special games games when

931
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: perhaps other conferences are having you know, are deciding to

932
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: play Mercer right that that the Big twelve is finding

933
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 4: space for themselves to play some of their bigger matchups

934
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 4: when perhaps we have some down matchups otherwise on the schedule.

935
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't hate it.

936
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 4: TCU Cincinnati really got the blood flowing for you.

937
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: It was a good game for TCU's offense. Complete game

938
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: for TCU.

939
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 5: Shut up, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

940
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: Brandon Sorosby is about to take like Texas tex money

941
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: next year. Who knows.

942
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 5: It was a good game for TCU.

943
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 4: They had two thirty eight on the ground to go

944
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: along with three hundred yards for Josh Hoover.

945
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: Anyway, listen, they had a tough schedule and they finished

946
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: what eight and four this year and four?

947
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 5: That's the end of my rant.

948
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 4: Brett, you or Mark, I know you don't listen, but

949
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: if you do, please see if you can fix this.

950
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 4: Texas Tech one forty nine to ZIP over West Virginia.

951
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: They left no doubt and BYU won by twenty over UCF.

952
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 4: UCF jumped out to an early lead. They were up

953
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 4: fourteen zip in this one, but then by you sort

954
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: of woke up. They outscored them forty one to seven.

955
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: The rest of the way, you seef just could not run.

956
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 4: They had forty two yards and nineteen carries. David Jackson

957
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 4: had an okay game. It's year one, had some fun motes,

958
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 4: but I think all things considered, UCF had a better

959
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 4: year than many had expected.

960
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 5: But they were no match for BYU in this game.

961
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, bear Bachmeyer lit them up.

962
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 5: How do we feel about this rematch next week.

963
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to give it some thought, but I'm

964
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: not sure what Texas Tech has shown in terms of

965
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: a weakness that can be exploited in a more dramatic

966
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: way than what BYU wasn't able to do last time

967
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: they played. But I'm going to give it some thought.

968
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to rewatch some BYU and see if I

969
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: feel differently.

970
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 4: Okay, now that we have covered the tops of the conferences,

971
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 4: let's go back through. Let's make a second pass here,

972
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 4: and let's talk about some other games that had importance.

973
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of playoff teams potentially who played we

974
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: haven't discussed.

975
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 4: I will circle back to the SEC now because the

976
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: one that I was watching intently and the game that

977
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 4: again for me just speaking as somebody who is a

978
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: Notre Dame fan. Well, no, Notre Dame fan. Oklahoma seventeen

979
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: LSU thirteen was a game that I was yelling about. However,

980
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: you thought this game was gonna go, it was at

981
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 4: least twenty five percent uglier. Yeah, this was a horrible

982
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 4: viewing experience this game. It felt like both schools joined

983
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 4: the Big Ten West from twenty seventeen from twenty seventy.

984
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 4: I hated this game. I hate watched the whole thing.

985
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 5: Huh. It was ugly, but Oklahoma got it done.

986
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: Three picks for John Mattier. He came through in the clutch,

987
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 4: He had the big throw late. It was really just

988
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 4: two big plays for Oklahoma. Dan They had the long

989
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: catch and run to Dion Burks earlier in the fourth quarter,

990
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 4: and then the busted coverage the fifty eight yard touchdown

991
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: pass from Matier to Isaiah Stana with four minutes left

992
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 4: that gave them the late lead. Yeah, but it was

993
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 4: a mistake prone game for Oklahoma. They're going to end

994
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: up hosting a playoff game now. I think, unless the

995
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: committee decides they should be jumped by some of the

996
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 4: teams behind them. But I and I hate to do

997
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 4: this because they just won and this was like a

998
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 4: moment of triumph. They end up going ten to two

999
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 4: against an incredible schedule. Yeah, I mean, there is a

1000
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: lot to like about Oklahoma, so we should probably start

1001
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 4: there before I give my other thoughts on the.

1002
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: Seat Michigan and then you know, scheduled a big non

1003
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: conference game, right Michigan at home?

1004
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a very very big moment for the

1005
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: Oklahoma Sooners, and I do not want to be the

1006
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 4: guy that throws cold water on it right away.

1007
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: Okay, pepe Bama?

1008
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what say you about what we saw from Oklahoma,

1009
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 4: not just in this game, but throughout the course of

1010
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 4: the season. Has this team gotten better to you as

1011
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 4: we have watched them over the last six weeks or so.

1012
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: I enjoy that they're self aware. I enjoy that they

1013
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: know how they have to win and steer into that

1014
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: they know that they have to win by abusing teams

1015
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: on defense, forcing mistakes, giving themselves short fields, and hopefully

1016
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: setting up John Mattier to not throw potentially backbreaking interceptions, yes,

1017
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: which he can do and has done this season, sometimes

1018
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: with a working hands, sometimes less. So you know what

1019
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: I in rewatching this game. I watched it on and

1020
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: off when other games were on, because I want to say,

1021
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: this game was happening while Oregon Washington was going, so

1022
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: I was obviously I had a more focused eye on

1023
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: that one. But something I came back to was like, man,

1024
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't that long a though, that both of these

1025
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: long ago, that both of these schools had incredible quarterbacks repeatedly.

1026
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: And He's like, I'm watching an Oklahoma LSU game, and

1027
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: this is the quarterback play I'm getting with John Mattier

1028
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: and MVB.

1029
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 4: The sen tools of Matier had three picks, but he

1030
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: had good numbers otherwise. He did come through in the clubs.

1031
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 4: They were bad picks, though, Man, they were bad picks.

1032
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: But in the end, in the end, he did what

1033
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 4: he does and he got the job done. He came

1034
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 4: through in the clutch and ended up winning the game,

1035
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: which is all that matters, you know.

1036
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: And I mean, he is he's your what, he's your

1037
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Duff Beer quarterback of the Year. He is the cause

1038
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: of and solution for all of Oklahoma's offensive products.

1039
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 5: I don't think that's fair.

1040
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: No, I mean, look, the offensive line still isn't great.

1041
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: The receivers still aren't consistent. The running game came and

1042
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: went this season. But if you're capable of throwing three

1043
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: interceptions in a big game and those were on him,

1044
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean there was a tip ball that I think

1045
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: Harold Perkins ran back almost all the way. But he's

1046
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: very good. He makes plays, he's you know, maximizing what

1047
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma offense has. But at the same time he

1048
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: has clunkers, and so there were opportunities for MVB and

1049
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: the LS. Like, he just was late, he's short. He

1050
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: was late on some open passes that you know, the

1051
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: one in the end zone, he had an open tight

1052
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: end running and just was and got picked I think

1053
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: by Peyton Bowen. This quarterback play was not incredible in

1054
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: this game. I was impressed with the LSU defense, honestly

1055
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: that as a team, given everything that's ongoing behind the scenes,

1056
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: given everything that happened behind the scenes this season, like

1057
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: still played pretty hard, ran the ball decently well at times.

1058
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: But it was a winnable moment for them. But Oklahoma is,

1059
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: like the consummate winning, is a skill team, it seems,

1060
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: given their schedule this.

1061
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 5: Year, well listen, and that deserves some praise.

1062
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think Brent vannables the way he pieces

1063
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 4: roster together and especially against his schedule. I was, you know,

1064
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 4: I was talking to somebody earlier about this, and it's

1065
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,959
Speaker 4: it's sort of mind blowing now in hindsight, thinking back

1066
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 4: to the conversations we had when we previewed the SEC

1067
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 4: in August, and I remember looking at Oklahoma's schedule and thinking,

1068
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 4: there is no way, there is no way, even if

1069
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 4: they get fifty percent better, there is no way they

1070
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 4: are ripping through this and they're going to have a

1071
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 4: real shot at playing for anything of real merit. You know,

1072
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 4: Bowl game for sure, but the playoff, you know, on

1073
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 4: the fringes of the SEC conference discussion, no chance. But

1074
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 4: they found a way to do it. So I credit

1075
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 4: them for that. I just don't think they're that good.

1076
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 4: Dan Well, I just don't think they're that good. I

1077
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 4: think they're very.

1078
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 5: Limited on offense. I think the defense is legit.

1079
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 4: There's no denying that is a very very good defense,

1080
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 4: and that has clearly taken them places.

1081
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 5: But I don't think they're that good.

1082
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 4: And when it comes time to pick against them in

1083
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 4: the playoff, I will.

1084
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: The offense, once again, we've hammered this. I've hammered this.

1085
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: Did not score thirty points in an SEC game this year. No,

1086
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: And they're going to the playoff.

1087
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 5: They're going to the playoff, and they deserve to be

1088
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 5: the playoffs.

1089
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: That's just the degree of difficulty. That's a high wire act.

1090
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they don't deserve it. I'm just saying,

1091
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 4: once they get there, I'm not picking them to win.

1092
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, fair enough.

1093
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: All Miss also won. This game was of course clouded

1094
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 4: by all the Lane Kiff and stuff. We get a

1095
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin update, Dan.

1096
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, I'm told there was a call to Lane

1097
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: Kiffin's house. It was an HVAC repair guy. They were

1098
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: trying to schedule something.

1099
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 4: But he is which house, the one that he's got

1100
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 4: now in Oxford or the one that he might buy

1101
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 4: in Baton Rouge.

1102
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: Oh, it's the Oxford house. So he's unsure how to

1103
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: proceed because you know, it does get a little chilly

1104
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: in the winter. Yeah.

1105
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 4: Thirty eight to nineteen, Old Miss doubles up on Mississippi State.

1106
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 5: Mississippi State was feistyep for a bit.

1107
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 4: In this game, but eventually, through the course of sixty minutes,

1108
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 4: it was clear that Old Miss was a better team.

1109
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 4: They just gradually pulled away. I don't have my boat

1110
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 4: race sound. I probably should have been more prepared, but

1111
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 4: this felt like a boat racing to me.

1112
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1113
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Eventually it was Trinidad Chambliss sort of an up and

1114
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: down day. Made some huge throws, missed some throws, but

1115
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: what he was able to do through the air. Kiwan

1116
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: Lacy obviously paced this one, especially in the second half.

1117
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: I want to say Trey Wallace had a couple of

1118
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: big ca de Jehn stribbling, the Oklahoma State transfer had

1119
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: a couple of big moments. It was just very clear

1120
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: that Ole miss had more in this second half, as

1121
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: they quite literally ran away with it. It was a

1122
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: game though, it was what twenty one to thirteen in

1123
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: the third quarter, but it was just sort of an

1124
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: again again, again again and Mississippi State pretty clearly ran

1125
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: out of gas.

1126
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 5: They ran out of gas.

1127
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 4: It was a really good game for Trinidad Chamblis, who

1128
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: had three fifty nine and four touchdowns. It did see

1129
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 4: some rumors out there that if Lane decides he's going

1130
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 4: to go elsewhere, Trinidad Chambliss could follow him. I think

1131
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 4: he can petition the NC DOUBLEA and still get another

1132
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 4: year of eligibility if memory serves So, there was.

1133
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: A Camaro Taylor game, by the way for.

1134
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 5: To Mario Taylor Mississippi State.

1135
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 4: I thought had some nice flashes in this game that

1136
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 4: left me feeling pretty encouraged about what his.

1137
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 5: Future could look like.

1138
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 4: So ran, well, yeah, I mean, there are a lot

1139
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 4: of talking points that I think are going to come

1140
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 4: out of this one, really on both sides of it.

1141
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: Chief among them, though, is going to be the kiff

1142
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 4: and stuff, and we'll have to wait to see what transpires. Look,

1143
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 4: we're recording this late on Sunday night. We don't have

1144
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 4: an update other than to say there's going to be

1145
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 4: a team meeting. My hunch Dan is that he is gone.

1146
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 4: Otherwise they wouldn't have dragged this out as long as

1147
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 4: they have. It sounds as though the sticking point was

1148
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 4: he wants to coach him in the playoff. I don't

1149
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 4: know how you coached two teams at once. That could

1150
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 4: be kind of hard, especially.

1151
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: Is it weird? Do you think that's strange? If the

1152
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: LSU coach is just in the Ole miss facility, everyone.

1153
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 4: Understand where he's coming from. I understand where he's coming from.

1154
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 4: But it is hard when you reach this level of

1155
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 4: the absolute heights of the coaching profession to try and

1156
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 4: get your cake and eat it too. And I'm not

1157
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 4: sure how that's going to go over.

1158
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: Is there somebody I don't know about who's making him

1159
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: take the LSU job? Is that somebody that is he's

1160
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: being held against his will and being forced to take

1161
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: this job. He could just coach Miss. He could just

1162
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: coach ole Miss in the college Football Playoff and continue

1163
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: to be their coach for double digit millions of dollars

1164
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: and an enormous budget to recruit players via the portal.

1165
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: He could do that. He might still do that.

1166
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 5: This is Lane Kiddy.

1167
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: He's not, but I'm saying nobody's making him leave. He

1168
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: could coach the playoff and be happy.

1169
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 5: He absolutely could.

1170
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 4: Look, we'll get more clarity on this, and as I

1171
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: said earlier, there's going to be a team meeting bright

1172
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 4: and early on Sunday morning. There's also going to be

1173
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: plenty of other coaching news out there. I don't even

1174
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 4: think that's a debate. So we will do our part

1175
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: here to keep you up to speed on the situation.

1176
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 4: At a minimum, you can listen to the Tuesday episode

1177
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 4: where I think we're going to recap a bunch of

1178
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 4: this stuff and talk through playoff scenarios and a bunch

1179
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 4: of other odds and ends throughout the course of I

1180
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 4: guess the next forty eight hours what transpires. Yeah, Ole

1181
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 4: miss with a big win again. Thirty eight to nineteen

1182
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 4: was your final. The only other game here that I

1183
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: wanted to pay a little bit more attention to is

1184
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 4: Vanderbilt commodore s Dan.

1185
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: In the SEC.

1186
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 4: To be clear, Yeah, in the SEC Vandy wins forty

1187
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 4: five to twenty four over Tennessee on the road. Yes,

1188
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 4: they outscored Tennessee twenty four to three in the second half.

1189
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 4: A ton of offense for both teams, with Diego Pavia.

1190
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 5: Again goes off.

1191
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 4: Guy's incredible. He is incredible, And this was an incredible win.

1192
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was super impressive. He goes over one

1193
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing, Cedric Alexander goes over one hundred yards rushing,

1194
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: throws a couple of bad picks. I was trying to

1195
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: think of the word that best encapsulates in my mind

1196
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: when I watched Diego Pavia. I mean, Tennessee's defense hasn't

1197
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: been great this season. Obviously, they've dealt with a ton

1198
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: of attrition and it's affected the way that they've been

1199
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: able to perform against the better teams on their schedule.

1200
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: Diego Pavi is a menace. No, he is just a menace.

1201
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: He's horrendous to try and bring down. Keeps making play

1202
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: after play and high leverage moments. Did so again today

1203
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: and Vandy really, I mean defensively, that's been the question

1204
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: right that they allowed what they allowed to Auburn. But

1205
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean Deshaun was it? Who was it? The Tennessee

1206
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: Backs made plays in that first half. It was Deshaun

1207
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: Bishoh excuse me, Yeah, but the great I think he

1208
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: sort of hurtled and had a great run for a touchdown.

1209
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: The Vanderbilt defense really clamped in the second half. And

1210
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: that's been the question mark, right with what they allowed

1211
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: against Texas and Austin, what they allowed against Auburn when

1212
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: Ashton Daniels took over, and for them to do this

1213
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: and make the adjustments they did against Joey Aguilar and Tennessee,

1214
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: that answered an interesting question to me about like what

1215
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt can look like against a decent team that can

1216
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: move the ball pretty consistently. And Vandy came to play,

1217
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: and this was on the road too.

1218
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 4: This was on the road, and look, Pavia is a

1219
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 4: really interesting character in the college football.

1220
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 5: Story over the last two year.

1221
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: Men.

1222
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, he is a menace.

1223
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 4: He is the type of guy where if he is

1224
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 4: on your team, you love him. If he is not

1225
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 4: on your team and you are playing his team, you

1226
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 4: hate his guts. Yes, he is that type of guy.

1227
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 4: But he is a menace and he does deserve to

1228
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 4: be in New York. I don't know if he deserves

1229
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 4: the Heisman. We can have that discussion on Tuesday, but

1230
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 4: I think he absolutely earned his way to New York. Yeah,

1231
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 4: absolutely no question about that. Any other thoughts around the

1232
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 4: sec DAN. We had a few other games. We had

1233
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 4: Miszoo knocking off Arkansas thirty one seventeen. We had Florida

1234
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 4: knocking off Florida State by a forty to twenty one score.

1235
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 5: Any of those moved the needle for you.

1236
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: I just didn't really watch much of those specific games.

1237
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: I did see that Missoo ran all over Arkansas Boprabulah

1238
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: through for like thirteen feet and they won by double digits.

1239
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: So that was good for Miszoo. That's a game I'm

1240
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: gonna watch Sunday or Monday morning sccwise. Now, I did

1241
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: not watch Florida Florida State, and I saw, like right

1242
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: away Louisville just absolutely smoked Kentucky.

1243
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

1244
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: And it's inter conference, But like, kind of good for

1245
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: Clemson for winning this game against South Carolina at least

1246
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: ended on a high note after a disappointing season, especially

1247
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: the start of it. So yeah, I watched a little

1248
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: bit of that on the second screen, a little bit

1249
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: of Miller Moss coming back and playing well. Obviously Louisville's

1250
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: dealt with a ton of injuries as well that they're

1251
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: able to close the season like they did. So no, no,

1252
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: no in depth thoughts in this moment. Didn't watch a ton.

1253
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 4: My takeaway after what we saw this evening is that

1254
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 4: if Kentucky had played Virginia Tech, that game would still

1255
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 4: be in overtime with the zero to zero score.

1256
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, those are.

1257
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 4: Two teams that did not look at all like they

1258
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 4: wanted to play this week, and I think the result

1259
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 4: showed it.

1260
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 5: That's pretty much my closing thought there.

1261
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 4: You mentioned Louisville winning forty one to zip over Kentucky

1262
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 4: over in the ACC you mentioned the Clemson game, but

1263
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 4: we also had NC State knocking off UNCE. We mentioned

1264
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 4: briefly that Cal knocked off SMU. That game was kind

1265
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 4: of wild, and Boston College gets the win over Syracuse

1266
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 4: thirty four to twelve.

1267
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: I think we have some big ten things to talk about.

1268
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: I've I've given you an hour and three minutes thus far,

1269
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: ish and we haven't even mentioned Oregon Washington.

1270
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 5: Fine, Fine, let's talk about Oregon wall.

1271
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned Matt Ruhle being paid four hundred million

1272
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: dollars to continually lose to Iowa.

1273
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 5: Fine, let's go there. Okay, what do you got for me?

1274
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: Uh? Good game, back and forth, game a little bit.

1275
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: Oregon kind of controlled things on the scoreboard, but were

1276
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: they were unable to sort of take advantage of opportunities

1277
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: to open this up, in large part because Washington played

1278
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: the run really really well. Organ was not able to

1279
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: get anything going on the ground and Washington themselves were

1280
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: able to get I think it was Adam Mohammad, it

1281
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: wasn't even Jonah Coleman. Adam Haha look like he's been

1282
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: playing for like the Chargers for four years. Yeah, he

1283
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: looked like an NFL running back. He has not been

1284
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: a huge deal for Washington this season. I think he

1285
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: was a Jetfish recruit at Arizona who transferred up. But

1286
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: he looked terrific, you know, slamming into the Oregon defensive

1287
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: front and succeeding a ton. Dante Moore had to win

1288
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: this game because they took away the run and he

1289
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: had to win this game with Kenyon Sadik with a

1290
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: couple of drops and not a huge factor and obviously

1291
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: no to Corean Moore and Gary Bryant junior. They're numbers

1292
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: one and two wide receivers and made some incredible throws.

1293
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: The Oregon defense came up big with some interceptions. One

1294
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: of them was game ceiling. They hounded Demon Williams, who

1295
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: seems to be untackleable maybe like he did an incredible

1296
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: job evading the Oregon pass rush and defenders. But Washington

1297
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: just didn't have the pop on offense, didn't have the

1298
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: rhythm on offense other than what they were doing on

1299
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: the ground for stretches in this game to finish drives.

1300
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,439
Speaker 1: Jedfish teams have notoriously been disappointing, to say the least

1301
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: in the red zone, and it continued today and Orgon

1302
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: got a ton out of their kicker. Your your favorite

1303
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: name in the sport, Atticus Sappington.

1304
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 4: Can't be a real name, seems to be, but I

1305
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 4: can't confirm it that that can't be real.

1306
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: Malik Benson was huge in this one. He had a

1307
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: long touchdown catch. The Florida State transfer Jamari Johnson a

1308
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: very good game tight end number two behind Kenyon Sadik,

1309
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: and Oregon protected Dante More pretty well all things considered

1310
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: with how their offensive line is beat up, and they

1311
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: will secure somewhere between like the five and seven seed.

1312
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: It seems right.

1313
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 4: It does, and I do think depending on what the

1314
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 4: committee ends up doing, and we talked about this on

1315
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 4: one of the episodes from.

1316
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 5: This past week.

1317
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 4: Though it looked for a minute like the Solidver Bowl

1318
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 4: would be off, I think there are real possibilities now

1319
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 4: that the solid For Bowl between Notre Dame and Oregon

1320
01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 4: could be back on.

1321
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 5: It depends in the seating.

1322
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 4: I do think there's a real chance here that or

1323
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 4: Penn State, Penn State's not going to be playing in

1324
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 4: the playoff, that Notre Dame is going to get bumped

1325
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 4: down to like number ten. Yeah, And if that's the case,

1326
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 4: then it could open up the door for potentially hmmm,

1327
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 4: sOliver Bowl in the first round between Notre Dame and Oregon.

1328
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 4: Oregon would likely host that game, but I think it's.

1329
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: As opposed to who as opposed to the Tokyo Dome,

1330
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 1: as supposed to the I think Oregon. That's the five

1331
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: seed playing against the ten. Yes, very interesting. I hope

1332
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: we can watch it together in some way because we've

1333
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: been waiting for this moment for seventeen eighteen years now. Yeah,

1334
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: it'll be very interesting if Notre Dame makes the playoff,

1335
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: which seems like they are as a conversation for another day,

1336
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: but I'm hopeful that we get that matchup at some point.

1337
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 5: So I am as well. Penn State and Rutgers is

1338
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 5: kind of nuts in the big time.

1339
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Penn State found themselves a quarterback.

1340
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 4: I guess it might be eighth in caliak manis. But

1341
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 4: Penn State won this game over Rutgers forty to thirty six.

1342
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 4: Is a wild game. They beat Rutgers for the eighteenth

1343
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 4: straight time. This game featured an absolutely absurd scoop and

1344
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 4: score that gave Penn State the lead for good in

1345
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. So eighth in kliak Mannis drops back

1346
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 4: to pass for Rutgers straight up drops the ball, just

1347
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 4: drops the ball. Amari Cooper or Mari Campbell, excuse me,

1348
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 4: Marik Cooper, former receiver, different guy. Mark Campbell, the linebacker

1349
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 4: for Penn State who's had a really good year after

1350
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 4: he transferred up from North Carolina, picks it up, run

1351
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 4: sixty one yards for a touchdown that gives Penn State

1352
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 4: the lead in the fourth quarter. Otherwise, it was a

1353
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 4: really good day for Kateron Allen had a career day

1354
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 4: on the ground to twenty six is high for a

1355
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 4: single game. Five hundred and nine total yards for Penn

1356
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 4: State's offense. Friends were texting me throughout this one saying

1357
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 4: fire Terry Smith fired Jim Knowles because the defense did

1358
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 4: not play a very good game State, but we did

1359
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 4: see a little bit more out of them on offense.

1360
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 4: Penn State, by the way, has been relatively anonymous in

1361
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 4: the coaching search.

1362
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 5: We've been hearing a lot about these other.

1363
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 4: Schools, about the likes of LSU, about the likes of Florida,

1364
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 4: even the likes of Arkansas. What would Ole Miss potentially

1365
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 4: do Auburn? Might they promote from within haven't heard a

1366
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 4: whole lot about the Penn State Nitney Lyons and I

1367
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 4: genuinely have no idea which.

1368
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 5: Direction they're going to go. We've all heard rumors at

1369
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 5: this point.

1370
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 4: My hunch is that we're going to get some clarity

1371
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 4: on that one before long, probably before Monday. But that

1372
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 4: is sort of the elephant in the room right now

1373
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 4: in the Penn State community.

1374
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Deon Sanders is right there, No, Deon Sanders

1375
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: right there, Dan Hawkins, let's just go through Colorida and yeah,

1376
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: let's go through the coaches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Penn State

1377
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,479
Speaker 1: is Rutgers esque this year, and it's better to beat

1378
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: Rutgers than to lose to Rutgers. Penn State is going bowling.

1379
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: They gave their all for Terry Smith and needed all

1380
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: of it to beat Rutgers, and winning is better than losing.

1381
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 4: Once again, any other thoughts here on what went down

1382
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 4: in the Big Ten. We had usc winning the Victory

1383
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 4: Belt twenty nine to ten over UCLA.

1384
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 5: We had an or.

1385
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 4: A snowball game right between both Minnesota and Wisconsin as

1386
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 4: well as I believe Northwestern Illinois Land of Linking game.

1387
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 4: We had Michigan State, Maryland, I believe Michigan State won

1388
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 4: that game.

1389
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 5: I didn't see the final score before we hit go here.

1390
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: Maryland loses their final eight incredibles and bringing Mike Loxley back.

1391
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 4: And on Friday, Iowa absolutely destroyed Nebraska by a forty

1392
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 4: to sixteen score.

1393
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and was never truly that close. Mark Ronowski had

1394
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: a complete game and Nebraska I did see that TJ

1395
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: Latif I think tore his hamstring early on in this one,

1396
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: which you never liked to see. No, but yeah, this

1397
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 1: one was a frigid affair as well. And Iowa, you

1398
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: pointed out, are like a dozen points from being undefeated,

1399
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: Like they were very close when you look at how

1400
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: close it was against USC, how close it was against Oregon,

1401
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: how close it was against Iowa States. Who else am

1402
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: I missing on Iowa's schedule loss wise?

1403
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it was four losses by a combined

1404
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 4: fifteen points is what it amounts to.

1405
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 5: So they were very good. And you know, I look, even.

1406
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 4: Though it didn't quite go Indiana by five, Indiana by five,

1407
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 4: that's right, twenty to fifteen. Even though it didn't go

1408
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 4: quite as swimmingly as I expected with Mark Ronowski, Iowa

1409
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 4: did pull together down the stretch, and I thought looked

1410
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 4: much better on offense second half the season, either because

1411
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 4: they were playing worse teams or because they were just

1412
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 4: getting better, probably a combination of both, but good for them.

1413
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: So they were they were a Trinidad Chambliss away from

1414
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: going eleven and one. Crazy yeah elsewhere, Yeah, I mean,

1415
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: I'll never like skim over Minnesota winning the acts, right,

1416
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: I know you're doing a zoom call, a support call,

1417
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: but it ends in a positive way for sky Yuma.

1418
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: So that was a weather game you mentioned Northwestern, a

1419
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: weathering game with Illinois and what's the Land of Lincoln Trophy.

1420
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: Disappointing season given some of the expectations early on, but

1421
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: Illinois going eight and four is never going to be

1422
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: that huge piece of misery if you're an Illinois fan

1423
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: in some of the depths to which Illinois has fallen

1424
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: throughout the years. So good for Illinois for winning that game.

1425
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: And you know, the USC UCLA game was somewhat close.

1426
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: I think I only watched a little bit of that,

1427
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: so maybe I'm wrong on that. We'll rewatch that one

1428
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: later on. And I think that concludes my big ten thoughts.

1429
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 4: Let's close things out here. I mean, I have much

1430
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 4: else to discuss here. I want to talk about the

1431
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 4: G five. We obviously have due alerts to do as

1432
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 4: well before we let the fine people go. But just

1433
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 4: to check back in on the Big twelve front, we

1434
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 4: paid a lot of mind to text attack and BYU

1435
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 4: and how by virtue of that, ASU lost their.

1436
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 5: Going to be playing in the conference championship game.

1437
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 4: But we had Utah beating Kansas in a game that

1438
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 4: had some intrigue to it.

1439
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: Oh man, Kansas had so many shots at that they.

1440
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 5: Did, didn't they?

1441
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: Yep?

1442
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 4: Man, I was really surprised at how this game went.

1443
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1444
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 4: I mean, they scored thirty one points, so it's hard

1445
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 4: to look down your nose too much at them. But

1446
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 4: I kind of expected a better performance, at least defensively.

1447
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 5: Does that make sense? Is that fair to say?

1448
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: Well, it makes sense when Kansas and Kansas State combined

1449
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: to run for like seven hundred yards against this Utah

1450
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: defense in consecutive weeks. I don't know what happened to

1451
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: this Utah defense. Maybe there are a bunch of injuries

1452
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: I am not referencing correctly here. That seems out of character.

1453
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I let me rephrase.

1454
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Utah defense did show up in this game.

1455
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 4: They picked off Jalen Daniels three times. They had, but

1456
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 4: it was it was a lot of bend but don't break.

1457
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,839
Speaker 4: They did for a ninety seven yard touchdown. Yeah, Kansas

1458
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 4: tried to run the ball over and over again against Utah.

1459
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 4: They tried to take a page out of Kansas State's playbook.

1460
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 4: They ran the ball what fifty one times two hundred

1461
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 4: nine yards something like that.

1462
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they two hundred yard rushers they did.

1463
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,879
Speaker 4: So it was it was sort of a lumpy performance.

1464
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 4: There were some good, there was some bad. On the

1465
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 4: Utah defensive front. They seemed to wear Kansas down and

1466
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 4: they were clearly the better team. They kind of cemented

1467
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 4: that over the course of the game. But in terms

1468
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 4: of their playoff viability, it I don't know.

1469
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 5: I kind of feel like it took a hit here.

1470
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 5: That's just me.

1471
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 4: Maybe that sounds fair to Utah and Utah people can

1472
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 4: yell at me if they want, but I just feel

1473
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 4: like with the other teams that are grouped in that

1474
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 4: in that cluster of two lost schools, I this one

1475
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 4: didn't move the needle much for me.

1476
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: So they've only lost to the two teams playing in

1477
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: the Big twelve championship game in Texas Tech and BYU.

1478
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: Until these last two weeks, they've exclusively blown out everybody,

1479
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: so they didn't finish strong. I think I'm with you

1480
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: that when you look at Utah, it's very obviously they're

1481
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 1: a very good team. But when you stack resumes, I mean,

1482
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,759
Speaker 1: they beat ASU, I think was that a Sam Levitt

1483
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: game or was that a Jeff Simms game? That was

1484
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: a Jeff Simms game, and ASU was a fringe top

1485
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: twenty five team. Cincinnati's not going to be obviously losing

1486
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: what they did at the down the stretch, so the

1487
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: resume is just not going to be either. They don't

1488
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: have a huge non conference win. I just think we

1489
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: should look at Utah as a very good team that

1490
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: is going to get leapt Over.

1491
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 4: Lept Over the only other game that I want to

1492
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 4: bring up here that that did something for me, and

1493
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 4: I do want to go back and watch some of

1494
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 4: the others here to get more of a fully fully

1495
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 4: formed opinion on what transpired in the final week of

1496
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 4: the year. But Houston thirty one Baylor twenty four was

1497
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 4: a really fun back and forth game.

1498
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 5: Yes, Houston pulls it off because they.

1499
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 4: Were just better at executing when it really mattered. They

1500
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 4: had four hundred and seventeen total yards. But obviously this

1501
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 4: is a Baylor school that knows how to score, knows

1502
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 4: how to put up yards on their own four to

1503
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 4: twenty one for them. Houston ran the ball really well.

1504
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 4: They had two hundred and sixteen yards. Connor Wegman was

1505
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 4: a dude, had three touchdowns, two on the ground. Baylor

1506
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 4: put a lot on Sawyer Robertson and he only completed

1507
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 4: about fifty percent of his passes. So he's a good quarterback,

1508
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 4: but they put a lot of strain on him to

1509
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 4: go out there and win this one. He wasn't able

1510
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 4: to get it done. A great season, by the way

1511
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 4: for Houston, finishing this one out strong, winning by Baylor,

1512
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 4: winning over Baylor by seven. Agree, Dan Rubinstein, I want

1513
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 4: to give you a very brief G.

1514
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 5: Six update if I can do so right now, Okay?

1515
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: Are you also going to include the fact that Yale

1516
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: scored twenty one points in the fourth quarter to beat

1517
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: youngstown'st eight by one in the FCS plays on a.

1518
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 5: Very long run.

1519
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 4: Did you see that they kept showing the highlights they

1520
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Speaker 4: kept showing the highlights throughout the course of the day

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01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 4: on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, Okay, continue.

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01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 5: The group of six.

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 4: Your American Championship is going to be between North Texas

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01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 4: and Twulane, North Texas, TWU Lane and Navy all one.

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01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 4: But it's going to be North Texas versus TWU Lane. Yes,

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01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 4: I'm excited about that matchup. Eric Morris is going to

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01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 4: Oklahoma State. We found out about that earlier in the week,

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01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 4: but sounds like both he Andrew Mestmaker at least going

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01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 4: to hang around for this.

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01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 5: That's good.

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01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 4: James Madison's going to play Troy in the Sun Belt

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01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 4: Championship game. They won fifty nine to ten over Coasts Carolina.

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01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 4: They're clearly trying to get some style points right now.

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01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 4: Bobby Chez Bob Chesney might be headed elsewhere. The rumor

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 4: is that he could be going to UCLA right hopefully,

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01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 4: if he decides to leave before any sort of postseason

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01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 4: James Madison won't be punished beause they're a fun team.

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01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 4: But who knows where It really gets interesting though, And

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01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 4: I say this especially now because of this duke circumstance

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01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 4: that I talked about at the top of the show.

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01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 4: The Mountain West Conference Dan Rubertstein, Okay, the mount West

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01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,440
Speaker 4: Conference is going to be down to their third tiebreaker.

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01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 4: The third tiebreaker is made up of composite rankings across

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01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 4: the following analytics platforms, Sports Source Analytics, ESPN's Strength of

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01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:38,799
Speaker 4: Record KPI rankings, and the Bill Connolly sp plus.

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Speaker 1: Continue.

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01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 4: We've got four teams and we'll fight out tomorrow who

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01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 4: is playing in this game. It is Boise State, it

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01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 4: is San Diego State, it is New Mexico, and it

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01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 4: is UNLV.

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01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 5: Among those four teams, we're going.

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01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 4: To find out who is playing tomorrow in the mount

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01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 4: West Championship. That really the only remaining matchup that we

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01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 4: do not officially know at time of recording.

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01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 1: Yes, New Mexico with a wild wind by the way

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01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: over San Diego State.

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01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 5: Wearing beautiful, beautiful lobos.

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 1: My beautiful Lobos wearing their dapper turquoise lucky.

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01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 5: I did like them.

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01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea how they're going to sort

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01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: all that out. So those are the two big things

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01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, Right, we get the Mountain West calculations and

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01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin and Lane KIVN.

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01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 4: Do we have a Lane Kiffin update before we put

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01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 4: a bow in this one.

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin has put in his retainers and is going

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01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: to sleep.

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01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 5: It's about time. It's been a long day for Lane.

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01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really funny image. Lane Kiffin Like, all right, guys,

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01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: I got go, I got Mark Tanner for and I'm

1572
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 1: done taking calls.

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01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 4: Any other action that you want to highlight here before

1574
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 4: we get to do the lords to let these people

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01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 4: go to bed.

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01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: Across like the American or Sun Belt Ross, whatever you want, sir,

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01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't think teams like Arkansas State and Louisiana won

1578
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: their sixthxas State won their six to get to a bowl.

1579
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: Your guy Jared Parker got to eight and four with

1580
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: Troy pretty quietly. I mean we mentioned guy James Madison

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01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: won by forty nine points at Coastal. So the style

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01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: points seemed to be with JMU. Navy beat Memphis Thursday night,

1583
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: not nothing. As Navy goes to nine.

1584
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 5: And two, sev went on Thanksgiving Eve.

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01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: Yes, and so they would be eligible. Yes, they would

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: be eligible to the American Championship. And yet they will

1587
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: still play Army in two weeks coreat so we have

1588
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: that North Texas, as you mentioned, Drew Mestamaker went wild

1589
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,839
Speaker 1: as he normally does, and they beat up on Temple,

1590
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: Tulane shut out Charlotte's UAB without Trent Dilferd beat Tulsa

1591
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: so got to four and eight. That's something. Army beat

1592
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,879
Speaker 1: Utsa in the Alamodome, which we've discussed as being difficult,

1593
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: and Army gets their sixth wins, so they'll go bowling.

1594
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: USF not going to play for the American but they

1595
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: beat Rice by forty nine as well, So you are

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01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: high on USF, and USF largely came through. Though they're

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01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: not going to make the College Football Playoff, it's something.

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01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: It's something to potentially win ten games and looks like

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01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: they're probably losing their coach in the process. Fresnel looks

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01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: like they're gonna get to eight wins. Hawaii looks like

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01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: they're going to get to eight wins. UNLV and Dan

1602
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: Mullen's first year ten and two.

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01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 5: That's a nice that's a nice year.

1604
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: I just we're also going to be talking about Dan

1605
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: Mullen coaching candidate in a year from tonight somewhere else.

1606
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 1: I think that's it. And Boise State was able to

1607
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: manage to come back against Utah State on.

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01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 4: The road, if you've got anything else to say, of course,

1609
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 4: you can always hit us up solid Verbal at gmail

1610
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,400
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1611
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,480
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1615
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Speaker 4: of our episode. We're really just getting started, like the

1616
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 4: first part of the season is over, and now is

1617
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 4: when it really gets interesting. As we get into the postseason.

1618
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 4: Of course we're going to have games. We're going to

1619
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 4: have all sorts of fun. We would encourage people out

1620
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 4: there who want to join the community to head on

1621
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1623
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Speaker 4: and I do, helps us keep the lights on, but

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Speaker 4: you get access to perks like ad free episodes, bonus content,

1625
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Speaker 4: or Discord server playing our games. We're working on games

1626
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 4: coming up here for the Bowl season and playoff season

1627
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 4: and the like.

1628
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 5: So get in on the action now.

1629
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 4: It's not too late to join up, support what we

1630
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 4: do and also play some games with the community. Yes,

1631
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 4: Dan Rubistein would you like to give out some dood alerts. Sure,

1632
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:49,440
Speaker 4: we give out dood alerts to the individual, mostly individual

1633
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 4: performances that move the needle for us every College Football Week,

1634
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 4: Dan Rivalry Week.

1635
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 5: Who did it for you?

1636
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: Well, we got some suggestions. Obviously, will long time for

1637
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: baller says Virginia Defense holding Virginia Tech to under two

1638
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: hundred yards, which many middle schools might be able to do,

1639
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: but Virginia also was able to do it. We got

1640
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: a couple of nominations for officiating crews, including the Ohio

1641
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: State Michigan replay official, the Iron Bowl officiating crew Ahmad Hardy. Obviously,

1642
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: the dude of dudes had a sensational year for Miszoo.

1643
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: Freaky Leak Malik Benson came through once again. He's had

1644
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: a number of He had the huge catch for Oregon

1645
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 1: against Iowa if you remember, he had a big punt

1646
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: return touchdown against USC, and he had a big touchdown

1647
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 1: to open up the game against Washington today. So most

1648
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: certainly a dude Malik Washington in a losing effort against

1649
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: Michigan State through for over four hundred and fifty yards

1650
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, unfortunately was now able to get it done.

1651
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: Trinidad Chambliss for Ole Miss once again. How about Ethan

1652
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: caliac manis just tip of the cap against Penn State.

1653
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: Had some down years there for Minnesota, has revitalized things

1654
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: for Rutgers. In that same game, k Tron Allen goes

1655
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: for over two hundred yards. Camaro Taylor in a losing

1656
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: effort for Mississippi State, thrust into a starting role and

1657
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: goes for two hundred on the ground against Ole Miss,

1658
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: who does not have a great rush defense, but all

1659
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: the same, an impressive performance. Malcolm Simmons we mentioned for

1660
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 1: Auburn and a losing effort goes for one hundred and

1661
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 1: forty three yards. Isaiah Horton had those three touchdown catches.

1662
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: Dudes across the sport. How about Jayden Ba Jaden baw

1663
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: just kept running for a disastrously chaotic and bad Florida season.

1664
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: Jaden Ba every week gave everything he had. He goes

1665
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: for two sixty six in a winning effort in a

1666
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 1: rivalry game, in a lame duck situation. Good for Jaden Ba.

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01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 5: Good for Jadenba.

1668
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 4: If you got any of the suggestions again, hit us

1669
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 4: up with social media or soliverbo at gmail dot com.

1670
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 4: So here's the way this is gonna work for bowlers. Yes,

1671
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 4: we're gonna have our normal compliment of episodes this week.

1672
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 4: We're going to do one for Tuesday. We'll have another

1673
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 4: one for Thursday. You can stop back in next Saturday night,

1674
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 4: same time, same place. We will do our conference championship recap. Typically,

1675
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 4: those are some of the biggest shows that we do.

1676
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 4: We're still working on the exact timing and schedule for

1677
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 4: what we're going to do this time next weekend, because

1678
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 4: not only do we have games that we need to

1679
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 4: discuss in the immediate aftermath, but one o'clock twelve pm

1680
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 4: Eastern whatever it is on Sunday, that's where we're going

1681
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 4: to get the final playoff rankings we're going to need

1682
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 4: to react to.

1683
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 5: So stay tuned.

1684
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 4: We'll give you more information as we can on when

1685
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 4: we're going to be talking about all that stuff, but

1686
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 4: for the time being, tuned back in on Tuesday, we're

1687
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 4: going to go through I think a little bit of

1688
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 4: more detail here over teams that exceeded expectations, teams that

1689
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 4: made bowls, go through records over unders, things of that nature.

1690
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 4: Just a little bit of a retrospective. Now that the

1691
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 4: regular season is over, and of course we'll give you

1692
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 4: the latest Lane Kiffin and coaching news.

1693
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:03,560
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely can't wait more Lane.

1694
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 4: More Laane, indeed Dan Rubinstein, enjoy the rest of your evening.

1695
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: You as well, can't wait to talk all things Conference

1696
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: Championship week. Watch more of these games to discuss early

1697
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 1: on in the week, have playoff takes that people are

1698
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: going to be infuriated by that are going to be

1699
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: so mild you can't even believe it. And head into

1700
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 1: this very active time of this.

1701
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 5: We have signing day, right, signing day.

1702
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: Early, signing day. Excuse Yeah, got coach hires. Yeah, this

1703
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,879
Speaker 1: is when it gets real spicy for that guy.

1704
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 4: There, my good friend Dan Rubenstein, for myself, Ty Hildon Brand,

1705
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 4: thank you all for downloading, for listening, for supporting, for

1706
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 4: watching live. We will talk to you all soon.

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Speaker 5: In the meantime, you know the drill, stay solid, Peace,