1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: We just weren't ready for that, Like we weren't ready, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: but it felt good and I liked feeling like that, 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't change it for the world. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: I felt great that week. I felt like, hain't nobody 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: tell me nothing? 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 3: What was the name of it? 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: It was titled going Through It? And boy did we 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: not know that that was foreshadowing. 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 3: What if? Y'all? Boy came on stage. 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 4: Welcome to Not My Best Moment, the podcast where I 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 4: talked to artists, athletes, entertainers and friends about the successful 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 4: failures that they've had in their career based on my 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 4: New York Times best selling book Succesful Fire by me 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 4: Kevin Fredericks. Available wherever books are sold except Target Blacks. 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if we can go till then independent bookstores. Today, 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 4: I have a very special guest, one of my my 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 4: favorite content creators, younger than me, but has taught me 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 4: so much about how to use the TikTok. Ladies and gentlemen, 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 4: please welcome artists, writer, content creator, one half of the 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: podcast Unhinge any More, alongside Mecca Evans, Jamina Bell. Hey, 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 4: welcome Jamina Bell. You also are the founder of Ring 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: a Bell productions, and you're also a manager you manage 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 4: before we jump in, how you how you have a 24 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: manager and you also are a manager? 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 3: Tell me, tell me what's going on. 26 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I do have ADHD. I do need 27 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 1: constant simulation. I have to do multiple things at once, 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: just because you know, it gets the blood going. But actually, 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: my artist is my best friend. I've known her since 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: middle school. She randomly one day started rapping, but like 31 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: she was actually good. 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: I said, no, hold on, my sister, you we got 33 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: some bars on you. 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: And she was doing a music video and of course 35 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: you know the director. She was like, yeah, direct my 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: music video. I was like, well yes, and you know, 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: I just always have a suggestional three And next thing 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: I know, I'm like, what mine's well management because I'm 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: already telling you what to do. 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I was like, well let me let 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: me use me. 42 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonn utilize my platform to kind of help boost 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: your numbers and kind of work the rooms the networks. 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: I bring her along to the network. Convince I go 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: to and yeah. 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 4: Very interesting, very interesting, that's super dope. What's your artists name? 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: Where can they find her? 48 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: Before we heart? 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: Her name is Audi? You can follow her on platforms 50 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: at Audie Automar. 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: Audie Autemar. 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 4: All right, let's jump in. Now, this is a story 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: I don't know anything about, and I'd love to hear 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 4: you tell it. In twenty eighteen, you wrote a scripted 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: series with your best friend and collaborator Dwight, and you 56 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 4: finally filmed it in twenty twenty three. It did not air. 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 4: Tell us what happened? 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: Uh, this was like, first of all, this was actually 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be my big break. That's what people don't know. 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: This was actually supposed to feed my family for generations. Hello, 61 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Like what do you mean? 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: Like? 63 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: So, of course I was in school. I went to 64 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: Georgia State for film spoiler alert. Georgia State at the time, 65 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: unfortunately did not have the best film program. We was 66 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: kind of just in there bullshit, and we was really 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: in there just doing whatever. We was teaching ourselves stuff. 68 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: So I talked to my friend do Wif me and 69 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: him we always talked about writing and producing, directing, all 70 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: the things. 71 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: I was like, we don't need these studios. Well, we 72 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: don't won't need we don't need Tyler. We are Tyler. 73 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: Let's write this show. So we got we opened the 74 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: laptop and we we just typing away. I mean, in 75 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: our minds, this was the best thing. Like nobody has 76 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: ever thought about writing before before us, you know, so 77 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: we write the story and as procrastinators we are, we 78 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: kind of I just let it sit for a little while. 79 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: I technically crossed the stage in twenty nineteen. But you 80 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: know how black folks do, I have some classes left. 81 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: I just had to walk that stage. I didn't want 82 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: the you know, fall graduation. I wanted to spring when 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: when everybody was there. So I said, I'm a walk 84 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: in spring and just take my next class. So I 85 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: technically didn't graduate to twenty twenty. And as we know, 86 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: that's when things got weird with the whole COVID situation. 87 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: So when we had our little fake shut down, you 88 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: know when it first shut down, everybody, you know black fops, 89 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: we was like this, you know, we're gonna just be 90 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: in the house for a couple of weeks. Shot, I 91 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: get a little vacation time. So I got me a 92 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: big old deposit from the government, thank y'all. It was 93 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: legal though, so they're not coming from me. A good 94 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: deposit from the government, and we was in the house 95 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: for several weeks. So I spent the majority of that 96 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: money Trademark and ring Bell Productions, and then I called 97 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: it whit. I said, to wait, we at home, nigga, 98 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: Let's finish this show. 99 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: Let's get to work. So we finished the show, and 100 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 2: to us, we. 101 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: Was like, oh, this is it baby, when the world 102 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: opened up, We're gonna make some calls. 103 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: We gonna do what we gotta do. 104 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna film this thing, so fast forward. We were 105 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: supposed to shoot in twenty twenty two. We had our 106 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: table read and we got all the people. I'm like, wow, 107 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,559 Speaker 1: we did audio. I mean, we did auditions and everything 108 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. People sent us takes. We had even 109 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: people pull up. We felt like, wow, wow, it ain't 110 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: nobody seeing us. So then we do the tape read 111 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and I kid you not, what 112 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: was it? Four or five days later, my cousin, who 113 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: was a pivotal character in the show was murdered by 114 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: her husband. 115 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: Oh my, oh yeah. 116 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: So and that's not even why the show didn't come out. 117 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: This is just a bump, you know what I mean. 118 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: This is just yeah, that's. 119 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: A detrimental right right, not even just casting for your 120 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: like mental health, right. 121 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: I haven't. 122 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, So that happened, and I'm like, okay, I 123 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: need I need a moment because it was obviously a 124 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: very traumatic situation. So I was didn't even thinking about 125 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: this show. So we ended up finally we did fundraisers. 126 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: We we threw two parties to raise money for the production. 127 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: I mean, we was really in knee deep. So we 128 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: finally got the money. Twenty twenty three come along. We 129 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: was like, it's time. We blocked off a week of 130 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: time to shoot this show. Yeah, I'm talking about We're 131 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 1: filming at my parents' house. We're filming at my house, 132 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: were filming at parks, were filming at restaurants. We had 133 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: the whole shebang, Chavoyne. We had the most amazing time 134 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: on set. It was like a dream come true. We 135 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: had a rap party. Okay, we talked at the rap party. 136 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: We're like, oh, everybody is like. We even did fake Emmy. 137 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: We did a fake Emmy nomination and winning speech. I mean, 138 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: I was prepared. 139 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: I said, let me go ahead and practice my Emmy 140 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: speech right now. We did all the things show it was. 141 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 3: It was, it was a series, a web series. 142 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: It was in our minds. 143 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: This I was just gonna make you, was gonna get 144 00:06:59,360 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: an Emmy. 145 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we were. 146 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: We were just prepared for all things because I was like, 147 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: because once people see it, then they gonna be like, oh, 148 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: this needs to be bigger. We was already playing let's 149 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: not even start writing season two because once we put 150 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: out season one, you know we're gonna get the bread 151 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: that we need to wait. And we need to wait 152 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: for that because you know, the network's gonna be called 153 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: after season one drops. 154 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: So we're gonna just yeah, yeah, I have the dream. 155 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: So okay, boom. We finished filming. We send all the 156 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: footage to our DP at the time, and I was like, 157 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: all right, brother, it's time. It's time for you to 158 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: do your magic. I'll see you later. The next week 159 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: was Beyonce concert. I wouldn't think about that damn show. 160 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: I was at Renaissance. Okay. 161 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: So I'm at Renaissance. I'm having me the best time 162 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: of my life, and I'm like, baby, I just filmed 163 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: the show that's gonna get me out the hood. And 164 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I just see Beyonce. 165 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: Kain't nothing go wrong? What could possibly go wrong? 166 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: Watch it? Write you to her house personally. 167 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is this is a sign. Actually, 168 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: the fact that Beyonce is this is a sign. So 169 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: that was in August. 170 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: I ain't heard nothing in some time, and I forgot 171 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: because I was just excited. 172 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well I did I did my part, 173 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: so I ain't got to worry. October come around. I said, hey, 174 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: mister editor DP man, I just wanted to check on 175 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: the floor. I just want to see what it looked like. 176 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: I ain't even mad it. I just want to see 177 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: a little people. Yeah, you know what, I didn't have 178 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: so many projects. I ain't even I didn't even get 179 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: a chance to start on it. I said, you know where, brother, 180 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: ain't nobody getting paid from this project. I can't rush 181 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: you once we ain't on money, of off, I can't 182 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: rush you. 183 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: So I said, brother, take your. 184 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: Time, let me know if you need assistance. Some other 185 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: months go by. We now at the next top of 186 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: the year. 187 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: He sent us one scene. 188 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: He sent us one scene and see this is this 189 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: is We were too excited about that one scene because 190 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: it looked so good. So we said, oh, oh, I 191 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: ain't I ain't even gonna bother you no more. Brother, 192 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: go ahead, work because it looked good. So we said, gone, brother, 193 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: do your thing. So some other time go by, and 194 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: again I have adhg. I can't even think about one 195 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: thing too long. I'm on the next scene. I'm on this, 196 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm on that. 197 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: I whatever. 198 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: So then I'm like, what now, hold on? Now it's 199 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: been some time. I need more than one scene. He 200 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: would send us like thirty seconds here, a minute there, 201 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like all right now. So then finally I 202 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: was like, okay, listen, how about I sit in on 203 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: the editing you know, sessions with you. 204 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm the director, I'm the writer. Me and Da White 205 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: can come with you. We gonna have That's what we easy. 206 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: I can tell you. I remember which take is is good. 207 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: I got you, brother, I tell you. 208 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: When the cut boom boom boom. So we get in 209 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: the first writing session, it is going great. We finish 210 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: a good scene or two. 211 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh now now we'll be done in a 212 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. We're a man. Three sessions go by, 213 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 2: and something just is in my spirit, Gray, it's not right. 214 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, hmm, I said, now hold on, where is 215 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: this scene? Where is this scene? And where did is 216 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: this scene? 217 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: And that's what we searched for so long, and he 218 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: was like, I'm y'all, I guess it's gone. 219 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: You guess you guess? 220 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: It was so much missing, keV. We couldn't. 221 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: We couldn't logically put it out because it would be like, 222 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: what the hell am I watching? 223 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: It was full. 224 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about full, not like, oh, we're missing a 225 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: couple takes. I'm talking about where is the whole scene 226 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: in the restaurant? 227 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: You miss it? You missing key. 228 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: Points and dialogue that would make this make sense. So 229 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: then I'm like, this is when I knew we would scramble. 230 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: I said, what if we tried to make it into 231 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: a movie. 232 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: What if we just put all the pieces together and 233 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: we just making one thing? It still wouldn't make it 234 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: no sense. We were I said, oh my god, this 235 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: is so insane. Mind you. 236 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: During the editing sessions, he want to just keep key 237 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: and hoot and holler, and I'm stressed out. 238 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: It's all. At this point, we're almost a year year past. 239 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: We're almost a year past the time we shot this. 240 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: Two of our actors didn't move out to Dane State. 241 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: One of them ball. 242 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: Now, I'm like, girl, you wouldn't when we shot you're 243 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: bald and died, and that's no shade to heart. She 244 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: can she can be bad now. She did hurt, she done. 245 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: I can't even I can't. It's too We're too far 246 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 2: past to do reshoots. It's OK. 247 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: If we was one week two, maybe even a month out, 248 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: maybe I can we almost say year out? 249 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: What do I look like? Somebody like, hey, y'all mind 250 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: reshooting everything? 251 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: And did they work for free the first time? 252 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 253 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Everybody worked free. We had that much money. We had 254 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: production money. Can't ask nothing. 255 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: We fed everybody and we we had enough money to 256 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: rent that equipment and that was it. Yeah, I mean, 257 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: so do you know what happened with the footage? So 258 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: there was somebody. 259 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: So the person I brought on who was supposed to 260 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: be our DP, he was in charge of grabbing the 261 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: crew because he that's what he's he said, I got, 262 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: I can't I can bring up. So DP is a 263 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: director of photography. So the person that is like, hey, 264 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: this is what this shot is gonna be. You know, 265 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: you work with the director to make sure the shots 266 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: is what it is now. Granted, cav we didn't have 267 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: a full crew. He was the DP, the lead camera 268 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: OP and the editor. Yeah, he had a couple of roles. 269 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: He did. And I recognize now that maybe you shouldn't 270 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: have a crew of four. 271 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's my bad, and that's why I said, like, 272 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: you can't always blame everybody else, but in that moment, 273 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: I'm blaming him. So he brought somebody on the crew 274 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: that was supposed to be taking all of the SD's 275 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: cards fading and organizing, yes, and organizing them, and that baby. 276 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: Was new the d I T, explained the d T 277 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: real quick, Jamila. 278 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 2: So you're supposed to take them cards. 279 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: You go on to that computer after each after each shoot, 280 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: you unload them cards, and you were supposed to be 281 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: organizing right then in the dead baby, that's sweet baby, 282 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: that sweet innocent child of God took all them SD 283 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: cards and she uploaded them free for all. 284 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: They still said DC on D three. 285 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: And so afterwards he says, hey, so she went ahead 286 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: and upload everything. I'm gonna just go ahead through and 287 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: organize it all, okay, brother, because one thing I'm not 288 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: I ain't doing it. 289 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: That's not my job. 290 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: I know what I'm good at. 291 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: I know what i'm good at, and I know what 292 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: I need to do. And sometimes got to stay in 293 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: the place. So when we finally came to editing this 294 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: when I shouldn't, my spoty sense to started tingling because 295 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: why I don't even see nothing label yet and it's 296 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: been one so you told me that she was gonna label. 297 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: So I think. 298 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: Somewhere between the offloading but then also bringing it also 299 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: into our new hard drives, some type of transfer. 300 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: They wasn't organized. They gone. It's all like they gone. 301 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: And it's been so long that I couldn't even try 302 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: to restore nothing. I can't even grab the ass D 303 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: to just double maybe everything is gone. 304 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got what we got. 305 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: Okay, Now, to me, a true artist one of the 306 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 4: either way you're a true artists. But one of the 307 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: hallmarks of a true artist is as much as it 308 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: pains me, I can't put it out bad for sure, 309 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 4: having to just. 310 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: Be like, like, what did it? 311 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 4: Take us back to that moment when you realize this 312 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 4: ain't coming out and you post you got the Emmy speech, 313 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: you already said it. Man, gonna get a chance to 314 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: see it, Like, take us back to that moment where 315 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: you're like, my dream is not gonna be and I 316 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: you have to accept that you can't do what you 317 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: thought you were gonna be able to do. 318 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 319 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: So after a couple of sessions and I realized what 320 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: had happened, I went home. I was like, I couldn't 321 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: even I couldn't even look at his high yellow behind. 322 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: At that moment, I had to go home. I had 323 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: to go home and I had to just think, and 324 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: I said, I need to get out of here. So 325 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm just at home, like, Okay, I'm thinking of like 326 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: what can we do? Like maybe we can do it 327 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: this way? 328 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: Maybe we can. And I said, baby, it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 329 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: it's over. 330 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: So I called the White and I'm telling him and 331 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: me and him we having a good old nasty Oh. 332 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: We were going in, you know, just getting all of 333 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: our true feelings out. And I said, baby, we we 334 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: got to. 335 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: Take that out. We can't. 336 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: We can't drop this because everybody who followed us and 337 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: followed that journey, they was waiting, mind you. 338 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: People would be asking, well that show, ain't y'all know 339 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: y'all working on that jow know it was gonna get it. 340 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: We'd be like, oh, I said to White, I have 341 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: to tell everybody. 342 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: So I was I was devastated because I was like, bro, 343 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: not only am I not about to get Miami. I 344 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: then promised all these people, like the people who were 345 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: doing the roles the cast, they were so incredibly excited, 346 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: most of them. This was their first thing that they've done. 347 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm feeling like Kelp on stage. 348 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm oh, yeah, they wouldn't 349 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: getting no black trucks or nothing, you know, but y'all, 350 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: I say this next to the bag heay, we had sandwiches. 351 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: Man, we even order pizza one day. I really felt 352 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: like they had bitch in there. And I had to 353 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: send in that group chat. I said, mind you, we 354 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: had grown so close. You know how cast SETSY is 355 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: just like, oh we really gow close. I had to 356 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: hit that group chap. 357 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: I said, hey, sweet lambs, so here's where we're at. 358 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: Mind you, this is a year and a half after 359 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: we shot. 360 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: They don't even and so I said hey, and I 361 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: was just I just told them exactly what happened. I 362 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: was like, I can't eat flex on, y'allm gonna have 363 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: to be I'm gonna be straight up. And I was like, 364 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: I am so sorry it ain't coming out y'all. 365 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: No emmies no emies. But but I thank you, you know, 366 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: I do thank you for your time. 367 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: And I had a good time, and I hope y'all 368 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: did too. And if there's ever something else I do, 369 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: I'll reach out. But I can understand if you wouldn't 370 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: want to do it, I get it. But but hey, 371 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: I love y'all. 372 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: Thank you so much and did night. 373 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah was that hard to do? 374 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: Oh? I was shaky. 375 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: I felt like I was gonna throw up. I'm like, 376 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: this is and I felt so embarrassed too. I felt 377 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: embarrassed to them. 378 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: I thought the world mind you. I didn't even I 379 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: didn't tell the world that until a year later. 380 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: I said, I'm just gonna act like this didn't happen, 381 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: because maybe they'll forget, you know, they gonna forget about 382 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: this damn show that I keep. 383 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: Mind you. I would tease the show everything. It's like 384 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 2: I'm working on a show. Oh hell Yeah. Yeah it 385 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: was hard. 386 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: But everybody's response was like, alright, they gave me the 387 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: it's okay baby coming out. 388 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: We already knew that baby once we got to a year. 389 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: So yeah, I want. 390 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 4: To take a quick break from the show and then 391 00:17:43,080 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: hear from our sponsors. Okay, so what did you learn 392 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: for your next show? Because I know read my Bell 393 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 4: production is coming back. This is won't be the last 394 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 4: thing you do, and you've done stuff since. But I mean, like, 395 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 4: what what would Jamila Bell today tell Jamala from twenty 396 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: twenty three, twenty. 397 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: Twenty Yeah, we need a first assistant director, we need 398 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: a bit, we need we need people on that on that, 399 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: on that crew that that know what they're doing. But 400 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: also I think something I tried to do was step 401 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: back a little bit because I was like, Oh, I 402 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: don't have to do everything this time, Like I can 403 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: just be the actor and the director. No, Baby, I 404 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: think I'm never gonna let go of anything ever again. Actually, 405 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: I think I'm always gonna be the hawk. I think 406 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be the helicopter mama. I think I 407 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna I think I'm trying to be Tyler Perry. 408 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: I think I'm actually gonna be a dictator. And I 409 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: think I need I need all hands on deck. Actually, 410 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: can you make let me actually see every scene we 411 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: did today. I think it has traumatized me to the 412 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: point where. 413 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: That'll actually never happen again. That that is so triggering 414 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: to me. 415 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: I have a compartment right now, a little case for 416 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: my own personal sds and and this is for Tiktoks. 417 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm scared to death to lose Tiktoks. 418 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: Man. 419 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, it only takes one l around these parts. 420 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: I said, oh okay, but I also did I was 421 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: just gonna say. I also learned that like shit really 422 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: just be happening at production because some of that is like, yeah, 423 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: we did kind of fuck up, but it's like there 424 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: were also other issues that if if we still had 425 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: all of the the footage, we still wouldn't have had 426 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: a perfect show to come out. So that in the 427 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: editing suite while we're actually I'm like, we needed to 428 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: do three more angles of that. I'm watching it back, 429 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: like was this always and that's the stuff you had 430 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: and that's the stuff you had everything. 431 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, oh so this is we needed more 432 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: dialogue right there. So I'm I learned. I'm actually glad 433 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: the footage got to lead it because it's you know 434 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 2: what I mean. 435 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: Now I got a better excuse for it to not 436 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: come out because we messed up loyally. We thought we 437 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: had so much And again this was early in my 438 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: writing journey. 439 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, a page is a minute roughly. Oh. 440 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: We and and the way we the way we was 441 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: writing was so like we know what we mean, and 442 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: it's like no, no, no, uh uh. 443 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: Ooh that was yeah. 444 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 4: They say there's three movies, there's three shows. Whatever you do, uh, 445 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: there's three of them. There's what you write, there's what 446 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 4: you shoot, and there's what you added. And these are 447 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 4: three separate projects and you, behind the scenes are the 448 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: only person who knows all three. The audience only sees 449 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: the version that goes out for production or whatever reason. 450 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 4: It ain't always gonna be uh, it's never gonna be 451 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 4: exactly what you're right. It just it just ain't like that. 452 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: So what did you do with that energy? Did that 453 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 4: help propel you into TikTok? 454 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 455 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: So, I mean, you know, of course the goal has 456 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: always been to do TV and films. So I don't know, 457 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: like I just kind of don't stay on anything long 458 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: like I do. I be in my feelings, but I 459 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: was like, ah, oh, like next like after I'm done 460 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: with it, I'd be like, it is what it is? 461 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: Like, what y'all gonna do? Beat my ass? 462 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: Y'all not getting that money back too. For all those 463 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: who donated. Thank you so much, y'all not getting it back. 464 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: We don't have nothing to give you. It's been spent. 465 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: So I was just I just took that al and 466 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: I just kept pushing. And then I had already started 467 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: making tiktoks whilst all this thing is going. 468 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: I had promoted the show on TikTok in my early days. 469 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: It's probably just the videos is probably still up. You 470 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: could probably find videos right now. I'm saying you, baby, 471 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm working on this show right now that you ain't 472 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: even ready for. 473 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: I just don't even believe in deleting. Sometimes I go 474 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: back and laugh, like that's so cute. 475 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: If you go on the Ring of Bell page right now, 476 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: you just you're gonna be like, oh, that day was 477 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: so serious. 478 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: It's cute. 479 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: And I just feel like sometimes you can't delete that 480 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: stuff because it's like it really does to go back now. 481 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: It's like it's funny now, I really is. But I 482 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: was already making tick ties, so of course I use 483 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: that energy just to just keep pushing it. I'm like, 484 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: you know what, I think what I need to do, actually, 485 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: I think I need to build up my platform more. 486 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: I need more leverage, I need more accessibility. 487 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: I need more people in this industry that I can 488 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: work with so that when it's time to do another production, 489 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: I can do it the right way and not have 490 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: these issues. Because it's not even that we because I 491 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: think we did everything that needed to be done and 492 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: the reason that it needs to be done, like all 493 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: the things working and good, you know, but it's like 494 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: we just weren't ready for that, Like just we weren't ready. 495 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: But it felt good and I liked feeling like that, 496 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't change it for the world. 497 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: I felt great that week. I felt like, cain't nobody 498 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: tell me nothing. 499 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: What was the name of it? 500 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: It was titled going Through It? And boy did we 501 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: not know that that was foreshadowing, you know. I think 502 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: that we need to realize the power of the tongue. 503 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: There's power, there's power there. 504 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: It was also loosely based off of real life experiences 505 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: that I had in college. I was manifesting this shit 506 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: going downhill, Lord knows I was. 507 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 4: But you know, would you ever try to make it again? 508 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: Or are you just taking the experience that you learned 509 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 4: into the other things you work on? 510 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: So actually I believe it was this year or the 511 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: end of last year. Something told me, because I still 512 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: have the footage that we did have, something told me 513 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: to just look at it. So I was going back 514 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: and we still had a few pieces and scenes edited, and. 515 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: I was just watching it. I was like, hmmm, I. 516 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: Just feel like people need to see this, like let 517 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: me just let me just post it. So I posted 518 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: one of the scenes as like a skit, and it 519 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: did really well, and I said, I do this shit 520 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: was gonna oh go up. Like I one thing I 521 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: did know is that it was gonna go up once 522 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: y'all seen it, Like you just had to see the vision, 523 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: like now imagine it as a fool show. Like That's 524 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: how in my mind, I got all the validation I needed. 525 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: I said, that's all I wanted. I just wanted y'all 526 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: to know that, like we could really do that, and 527 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: it was a it was a party scene. So so 528 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: I posted that it did really well, and then not 529 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: too long ago, I posted another scene from it, which 530 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: was like a classroom scene. Again like isolated. Those scenes 531 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: kind of work as sketches. And I think that it's 532 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: because I was I was still untrained in my writing 533 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: mind as well, because they weren't fully it was the 534 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: story in total wasn't written properly, but them scenes they hit. 535 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: So I've just been like, I'm gonna just post the scenes. 536 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: I still have a few more in the in the 537 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 2: bank to editing, kind of like tweak, but like I'm 538 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: gonna just post that. Like remember I told you I 539 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 2: was gonna do a show and it kind of like build. 540 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 3: Where is this at on your Instagram? 541 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: Yes, if you actually go to my Twitter, the pin 542 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: video is the most recent scene that I posted. 543 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 2: That'll be easier to find. 544 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: This is great. I need to see this real quick. 545 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, sociology class. Now all it's a it's a 546 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 4: collection of short films. 547 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: Now, hello, you read that and see that's what was 548 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: supposed to be the whole time, y'all. 549 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 4: But that's funny. I know you're being funny. But sometimes 550 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 4: all you have is to pivot. Sometimes you don't have 551 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 4: the original plan. Mostly what you would have done, yeah, 552 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 4: what you would have done, what you could have done, 553 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: None of that matters, just only okay, what do we 554 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: do now? And I think you know it's also like 555 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 4: a testament to your character and fortitude to be like, 556 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: all right, well I'm gonna take what I can learn 557 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 4: from this and learn from it. But I'm not going 558 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 4: to dwell on what could have been, because sometimes it 559 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 4: don't work out. 560 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's important for. 561 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 4: People to to know, like sometimes you just gonna have 562 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 4: to pick yourself up and be like dang. 563 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 3: And keep going. 564 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 4: Uh, if you're okay, I want to go back to 565 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 4: your cousin who passed away. How did you even cope 566 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 4: with that part of it while you were in production or. 567 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 3: In post production? 568 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: You know what's very interesting is we we ended up recasting, 569 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: and so this is like a year. I was like, okay, 570 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: let me just recast. Like it's awkward, but like, you know, 571 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: this is for the story. And some of the people 572 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: who were on our crew they helped us recast because 573 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: we didn't do like a full like casting call. 574 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: Again. 575 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: We was just like we're in the think of it, 576 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: like we just just go ahead and buy somebody. And 577 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: so it was like, well, I know somebody who acts, 578 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: and you know she would be da I said, okay, cool, 579 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: send her my info. She was like, okay, send me 580 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: the script. I said, I got you, sister, I'm ready. 581 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: Script is sick. 582 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: Two days before it was time to film, she calls 583 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: and she says, hello, So I just read the script 584 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to get into the character. 585 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: But I'm mind you. I'm like, sister, this is a comedy. 586 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: I don't even know what's all this. This is a 587 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: lot like this is already a lot of energy. I'm 588 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, like what you're trying to find, 589 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: but whatever. And basically she's telling me that. 590 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: She said, I just don't feel like I am able 591 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: to fully find the character. I don't know if I'm 592 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 2: able to find her. And I'm like, well, I can 593 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: help you find her. We directed we gonna help. That's 594 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: what we're here to do. So just show up and 595 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: we got you. She said, no, I don't think you're understanding. 596 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: My morals and my beliefs don't align with the script. 597 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: And I said, well, and I'm thinking, like, okay, well 598 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: what part sister? She said she was playing a mother 599 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: role and she said, my daughter. In this script, it's 600 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: a homosexual and then the Bible. I said, oh, thank 601 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: you for your services. Don't worry about this because you're 602 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: not even gonna mesh well with the crew. 603 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna have it because I heard you a lot 604 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: of mind you We have a sex scene too, so 605 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm you know, but okay, I guess we just we. 606 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: Skipped the gay. We went right over to gay and 607 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: so I was like, okay. So the day of. 608 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: We're sitting there and I'm like, I don't know what 609 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: to do. So me and de White are trying to 610 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: figure out what we're gonna do because there is an 611 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: entire storyline with this character, and I said, well, let's 612 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: rewrite it. So we sat there in my mother's dining 613 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: room the day we're supposed to shoot, and this is 614 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: one of the scenes of that day, one of the 615 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: main scenes of that day. 616 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: And we rewrote the script to kind of just take 617 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: that mother character out. And when I tell you, I 618 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: felt like Kubrick. I said, listen, everybody stopped everyone, We'll 619 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: just rewriting. You're not thinking this is that hit. Actually 620 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: this is this is a testament. This right here, this 621 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: is power, this is strength. 622 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I really thought that we ate that, 623 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: and like we low key did, but it's just funny 624 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: thinking about it. So we actually didn't really have to, 625 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, replace her, and it kind of felt good 626 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: to me also to not have to replace her, because 627 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm like I kind of bet a blood that did 628 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: feel a little shitty to say she got about it here, 629 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: we need somebody to replace it. So she never heard 630 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: her role stage stagnant. She ain't nobody could take her 631 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: role from her. 632 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 4: Yes, I tell people all the time that that's really 633 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 4: what a producer does. 634 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: You You you. 635 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 4: You end up just solving problems that you I mean, 636 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 4: you do your best to prepare and anticipate, but no 637 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: matter what, you're gonna have to fix some things on 638 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: the fly. I think it's again another testament to your 639 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 4: ability to persevere and pivot. You're like, fine, I'm a writer. 640 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 4: I will just rewrite it, like some things are necessary 641 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: like that. Hey, guys, taking a quick commercial break. We'll 642 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: be right back. I want to switch gears and go 643 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 4: to you. As a social media star, I ask pretty 644 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: much everybody who's ever been dragged, what was it like 645 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 4: when you realize your Because when you first start creating content, 646 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 4: most of your people are fans, and then as you 647 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: start getting bigger and your videos start leaving your your 648 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 4: side of the internet, you become the topic. You have 649 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 4: on more than one occasion, how to take that became 650 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: the topic of the Internet. You don't have to go 651 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: into any of them. That's not nearly what I'm concerned with. 652 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: I'm more concerned with how did you react to realizing like, man, 653 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 4: I'm my name is dragonable because you get to a 654 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 4: point where you're like, oh, that's and people know who 655 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: you're talking about. You say Jamala on TikTok, they're talking 656 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 4: about Jamala bell. Oh, I'm sure there's all kind of 657 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: Jamala's on there, but for the most part, it's well, 658 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: here come Jamala and Mecca. Then sure they're talking about you. 659 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: That's actually how before I even knew who you were, 660 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: my wife was telling me about yap talk. She put 661 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 4: me onto you and Mecca she be tapped in, she 662 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: be tapped in. But like, have you ever got to 663 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: a point where where one of these things was like 664 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 4: it impacted you in your real life in any way 665 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 4: or you just let it roll off like you know, 666 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: water off your man. 667 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: Listen, I got I'm thinking about of the each each 668 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: of the times, because it's it's been a couple I've 669 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: had I've had a couple of jumpings. I've been jumped 670 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: a few times. Yeah, I will say like the first 671 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: major situation doomsday is what I call it the first 672 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: plane that hit the towers. For me, it was like 673 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: super gaggy because before then, generally speaking, I had only 674 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: ever been like hated on by whole teps. So to me, 675 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, to be hated by whole teps means I'm 676 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: on the right side of history. I'm like, that's a 677 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: that's an average day in America for me. Like, oh, 678 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: a boy is saying bull you bitch. Oh okay, that's 679 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: damn what I'm saying. I was, you know, it is 680 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: what it is. 681 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: So I was. 682 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: Honestly tiktoks me heart. I'm I'm like, I was having 683 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,479 Speaker 1: a great time on TikTok. 684 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm just. 685 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm just funny. I'm just silly. I'm just funny. Everybody 686 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: loves me. And even when I had been doing YouTube 687 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: videos back in the day, like the hate that we 688 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: was getting was from white people. Again, this is one 689 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: plus one. I'm used to that. You know how in 690 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: Shane it was for me to scroll and see. 691 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: A sister, I said, sister, a sister cussing me out, 692 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 2: a sister that I've never seen in my life, multiple sisters. 693 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 5: I said, oh, oh, hold up, I said, we But 694 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 5: I thought hmm, okay, it was jarn to me because 695 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 5: I'm like, I think what it is is like, no, 696 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 5: but that's not what hm. 697 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: But I was trying to like. 698 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: What I don't like for is for when people misconstrue 699 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: like my real thoughts and feelings and then it's like, no, 700 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: you hate me because you think I said and meant this. 701 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: You don't even I swear to God, I'm cool, y'all. 702 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm not even like like what you're describing. That don't 703 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: even sound like me. I wouldn't know you was talking 704 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: about me to you said my name, I'm like white. 705 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 2: Hold on me, howd up? I don't remember ever, that 706 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: ain't even that's not my character. Now you're mad at 707 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: something I say, Hey, oh well, I'll be saying stuff 708 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: y'all know. And that's the thing, Like I've always gotten 709 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: in trouble for things I say. I have a mouth, 710 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 2: and I've been had. I've been in trouble all my life. 711 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: I feel like I could get in trouble today for 712 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 2: my parents that like, I'm used to being in trouble. 713 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm not used to people changing up what I said 714 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: for real, or changing up my morals and my character. 715 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: So that to me was like the internal fight and 716 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: like I remember like talking to my siblings or to 717 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: my friends. 718 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: In real life because apparently some people think I don't 719 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: have those, and I'd be like did I was this crazy? 720 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: Like check me if I'm check me if I need 721 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: to be checked? Was I tripping or they're like, nah, 722 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: you were? 723 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: Okay? Well what they say, I'm not tripping. I don't 724 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: really give it. Damn y'all. 725 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: I wasn't tripping, even though I knew I wasn't. I'm 726 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: a gemini. I know what I mean, and I mean 727 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: what I say. I'm serious about that, Like no, I 728 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: would never So yeah, yeah it was stressful. 729 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 4: Okay, Before I let you go, I want to know 730 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: if the next five years went exactly as you. 731 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 3: Desired, what would that look like? 732 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: Oh five years? So in five years, i'll be thirty five. 733 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 3: Get up here and get old with me. 734 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm entering into into that new realm. 735 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: You're about to turn thirty. 736 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: I'm not just turn thirty next week. 737 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 3: Next week? 738 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: How are you dealing with thirty? 739 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm actually so excited. So what you don't know, Kemp 740 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: is all my life. I wanted to be thirty's that's 741 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: actually been my number one goal in life because to me, 742 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: whenever I would look at a lady who was thirty, 743 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: to me, I always loved grown ass ladies. Like something 744 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: about an older woman. I just was like, I wanna 745 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: be grown. Oh, I want to be grown. I want 746 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: to go to the club. I want to kiss boys 747 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: in the mouth. I want to have big old boobies, 748 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: and I want to switch when I walk. That's all 749 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: I've ever wanted to do. So now that I'm thirty 750 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: and I can do all those things, I do them 751 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: and I'm so happy. 752 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: I'm like wow, and it's just so crazy that me 753 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: turning thirty. 754 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: Since I've always been excited to turn thirty, I've always 755 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: planned to have like an extravagant thirtieth birthday party. It's like, Wow, 756 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: imagine me being at the height of my fame at 757 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: thirty two. That makes sense for me because thirty was 758 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: always like the pinnacle age. 759 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 2: For me in life. 760 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 761 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, in five years. 762 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: At thirty five, I feel like I should I should 763 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: have that e I should have that emmy. I I 764 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: do I need that emmy. 765 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: I do. I actually feel like I want to be 766 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 2: halfway through my egod at that. 767 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 3: Time halfway, halfway, not. 768 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 2: Too crazy, Like I'm not greedy, I'm too crazy. 769 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm not greedy halfway through that egot for sure, I 770 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: think the Emmy is going to be my first win. 771 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I definitely would love to have a feature 772 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: film under my belt as a director and as a 773 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: right tour. 774 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: Yes, yes. And I also plan to. 775 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: Just to be just doing all the things that I'm 776 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: doing now, like on a grander scale, so producing TV 777 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: and film glory. Like I just have so many ideas 778 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: and I just want to make way for other people 779 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: to do that, and like, I just have this idea 780 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: that the structure of my production company is gonna be 781 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: what really changes people's mind about capitalism. I've been thinking 782 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: about this for a time because a lot of people, 783 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: when they get that money in that power, they're so 784 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: excited to be like boohoo, bitch, get on the bottom 785 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: of the pyramid. And I'll be like, no, everybody, I'm different. 786 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm different. Like I'm still ignorant, and I don't think 787 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 2: that I ever want to change that. Like I'm woke ignorant. 788 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 2: That's kind of like my brand. 789 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: I am like the friend who's too bo but I'm 790 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: ignorant at the end of the day, like I'm gonna 791 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: say some shit that like I probably shouldn't say it, 792 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: but it's like, but I but I do think we 793 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: all deserve rights, and I do think that we like 794 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: capitalism is the root of all evil. But at the 795 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: end of the day, like, I'm gonna make fun of 796 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: y'all too in the process, And so I want to 797 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: be able to keep doing it on a larger scale 798 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: up with me. I want to host some awards. I 799 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: would love to host the BET Awards. Like shout out 800 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: to Juice, I said, not you opening that. 801 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 2: Door for me? 802 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 3: For us? 803 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 2: What maybe because I've been because I knew I probably 804 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: couldn't be the first. 805 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: But I'm glad you did that for me, brother, I mean, 806 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: thank you. 807 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: It's really crazy. I'm like, it's actually really insane. Because 808 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 2: my co contributor, Dwight him and Drew Skie were roommates 809 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 2: in college. 810 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: Really, they were roommates in college. I made Dukie years ago. 811 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: He probably don't remember me. It's okay, Drew, it's okay, 812 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: it's been years. Yes, they were roommates in college. And 813 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: then he started doing videos and obviously blew up and 814 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: It's like, dang, like so that you I'm I'm touching 815 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: the help of the garment and I'm clawned and I'm 816 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: grabbing my weight. I'm like, yeah, yeah, everybody. 817 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: Just stay right there though, just stay for a second, 818 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: let me climb you just just stay right there. I'm 819 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 2: on the way, y'all. I promise, I'm on the way. 820 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 3: I love it. 821 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 4: Well, if you guys don't know, please follow Jamila Belle. 822 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 4: She is absolutely brilliant. She is so funny. I still 823 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 4: remember the video that made me follow her. 824 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 2: That girl. 825 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 4: She did a whole Michael Jackson intro spot on and 826 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 4: I said, all, yeah. 827 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: Just before everybody pretended that they was Michael Jackson stands 828 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: by the way. 829 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, everybody want to be Everybody loved Mike 830 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: like I love Mike. 831 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 3: You was out there. 832 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 4: But please follow Jamia Bell TikTok, Instagram, Twitter threads all 833 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 4: of that. She is a contributing writer on The Airport, 834 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 4: which is coming out on to be this fall, and 835 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 4: she's an actress on there. She was on season one 836 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 4: to say space very funny individual. You will not be disappointed. 837 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 4: And with that, well see you next week. 838 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 3: Peace. 839 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,479 Speaker 4: This has been a Unanimous Media original Not My Best 840 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 4: Moment was produced by iHeart Podcasts and Unanimous Media. It 841 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 4: was hosted by me Kevin Frederick. Executive produced by Stephen Curry, 842 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 4: Eric Payton, and Charlotte Sumter Rigette. Co executive producer Klena 843 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 4: Maria Cutney. The executive producers of the iHeart Podcasts are 844 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 4: Sean ty Tone and Jason English. This series was produced 845 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 4: by Peter Calter and Jabari Davis. Co producer Kurt Redmond. 846 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 4: Special thanks to Sephen Curry and Will Pearson. Not My 847 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 4: Best Moment is a production of Unanimous Media and iHeart Podcasts. 848 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 4: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 849 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 4: Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.