1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental health podcast 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: helping you out of the gray and into the blue. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glacier's happening. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: Agang, Welcome to Unbreakable mental health podcast. 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 3: With Jay Glazer on Jay Glazer and before we get 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 3: to today's guest, who's a very close friend of mine. 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: You guys are all going to love to hear. 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: If you're like many people, you may be surprised to 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: learn that one in five adults in this country experienced 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: mental illness last year. Get far too many fail to 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: receive the support they need. Carolem Behavioral Health is doing 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: something about it. They understand that behavioral health is a 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: key part of whole health, delivering compassionate care that treats physical, mental, emotional, 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: and social needs in tandem. Carolem behavioral health rasisting the 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: quality of life through empathy and action. Like I said, 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: very close friend of mine and one of the funniest 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: people on the planet. 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: Look, this is a mental health and mental wealth podcast. 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: Also because people don't see the work people put in. 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: In our rise to success. 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: It's all those hours you put in when no one's 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: watching that makes you successful. And my guy I'm bringing 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: in here is who's my walking antidepressant? 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: Really is my guy, David Spade? You don't know. 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 4: It's very good to see you, Jay. I think this 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: is on zoom. You can see this thing right, Yes, 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: and you're not good that I look yes, actually look 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: looks solo flex all morning. 29 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: You. 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: Uh so you I know that your workout used to 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: be the shake weight? 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: Have you given that on? 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: It gets scary when he gets sort of the front. Hey, girls, Yeah, 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: the shakewaight sort of came and win. It didn't stick 35 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: around too long, but it. 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: Was a while. 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't work out as hard as people think. 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: I'm naturally buff. I I just do five crunches a day, 39 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 4: whether I'm in the mood or not. I plow through 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: and then that's it. But I think I'm just a 41 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: wispy comic. I'm going to keep it that way. I 42 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: don't I'm not going to compete with Rogan and those guys. 43 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: So you found your brand, You found your I found 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: my brand, which is like always about to block out 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: maln magition. 46 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: So we want to make people laugh today. We want 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: to you know, also kind of get inside of the 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: mound of a comic comedian. What's the difference it's a 49 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: comedian or comic. 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think I'll take both. 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: Okay, there you go both for five hundred hours. Like 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: I said, people don't see so here. I'm with Spain. 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: We'd hang out a lot in LA and almost every 54 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: night he would say, wait, either in the middle of 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: dinner or after dinner, before dinner, wait, we got to 56 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: go stop off and go do a He's got to 57 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: go practice a craft. Basically, we're going to one of 58 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: the comedy caps and he's doing it, and people have 59 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 3: no Iday's showing up and it's. 60 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 2: Pretty much every night. And you know, I think that 61 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: is a good lesson for everybody. 62 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: They think to you, well, you're successful and you just okay, 63 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: I just show up for things I get booked for, 64 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: but instead you work at your crap freaking night. 65 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: No one sees that. 66 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to your point of like, mentally, it 67 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: does help me because I think people ask if you're 68 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: still scared to get on stage. I do have a fear, 69 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: but it's mostly a fear of you get nerves, and 70 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: it's mostly you don't want to disappoint the crowd, especially 71 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: if they're paying to see you if this is the 72 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: only time they've ever seen you. You know, you worry 73 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: about your reputation. You want to be good. And so 74 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: if I'm going on tour or if I'm out in 75 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: the road, I'm doing tour right now. And it's theaters. 76 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: They're paying, They're getting a babysitter there, driving, it's a 77 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: total hassle. 78 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: You know. 79 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: It's a fun night out. But I want to do 80 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: the best I can, and I owe it to the 81 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: crowd to go practice because I obviously think I'm great 82 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 4: and everything, but you know, when you go out, I 83 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: get scared. I'm like, I haven't done that. It's like 84 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: taking your act out for a walk. I have to 85 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: try something, I have to do with something all new. 86 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: I have to just keep doing it because there's connective 87 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: tissue between jokes where I don't remember how this one 88 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: gets into that one, and it just shows like it 89 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 4: looks like amateur hour. So when it's a fun night, 90 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: I do an hour. So it's smooth, it's easy, that's 91 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 4: what it's supposed to look like, but it's actually hard 92 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: to get to that point. 93 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: How do you handle when you bomb? 94 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: I bombed very recently. It's funny I had been doing 95 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: the regular tour and now and then you do corporate 96 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: stuff and that's that's kind of fun. It's challenging because 97 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: you almost never do well. It's an inside joke with comedians. 98 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 4: You get paid a little better, but you know, they 99 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: bring you somewhere and say, okay, this is my company 100 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 4: and it's you know, it's actually like a rich CEO 101 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 4: that's probably around our age, right, and they have all 102 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: this money now, and they're like, I just want to 103 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: bring one of my buddies that I see on TV. 104 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: Bring him in. It's like a fun thing, right, And 105 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: then you meet everybody and you say hi, and then 106 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: you do some stand up. It all means well. It's 107 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 4: just tough sometimes because before you go on, they go, hey, 108 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: some random drunk guy, have you good? Say something about 109 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: the VP of sales. He's got three balls and beats 110 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 4: his wife working in working it it'll it'll kill. And 111 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 4: so anyway, I do this one at the six pm. 112 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: It's in like a lit almost a cafeteria that you know, 113 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: they don't they don't really do shows. They don't know. 114 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: I don't have a mic stand. I go out and 115 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: you know, you never keep it too dirty. I'm not 116 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: too dirty, but unlike me. Right, you're filthy, but I 117 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: think everyone knows that, and so your act is filthy. 118 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 4: I can see you on TV just like editing as 119 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 4: you go because you're like, I can't say that. I can't. 120 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 4: It's the only time I don't curse, is I mean, 121 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: I was about to say, I can't believe you get 122 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 4: through a one minute bit? 123 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: How you long? 124 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: Used to have a little thing a fuck meter in 125 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: our meetings for Sunday, and I didn't know it, and 126 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: he'd like, press, press press, and all of a sudden, 127 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: one time they're all laughing me, what are you'll laughing 128 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: at it? He's like seventy one. I'm like, somebody one, what. 129 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: Fuck you'll laugh at seventy two? 130 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: And then it turns out, yeah, he was like, we 131 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: have a fuck meter counter for Glazer in our meeting, 132 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 3: So like, how do you not curse on TV? 133 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I do want to get fired. 134 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: I think Matt Lauer at a fuck meter. H So 135 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 4: you know, so I do this thing. It's like a cafeteria. 136 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: It's too lit, and it's funny because I just came 137 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: from Nashville, where I did one of my favorite shows 138 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 4: at the Rhyman and it was so fun and everything 139 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: was working and then I literally four days later, I'm 140 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: just going I remember finishing a joke going, you guys, 141 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 4: it's not good news. That's the end of the joke. 142 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 4: And you don't even know. It's like they did meetings 143 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: all day and instead of doing like a dinner and 144 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 4: some drinks, and then I come on when they're a 145 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: little loosey goosey, it's like, hey, guys, before you go 146 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: to the dinner, you will promised we've got an hour 147 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 4: of this asshole. And they're like, oh, oh we're still here. Okay, 148 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: wait wait, so how do you how do you handle? 149 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: How do you mentally do. 150 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: It's very tough. You know. The tough part there is 151 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: if you're a stand up and you're if you don't 152 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 4: do well, it's hard to explain. It's like a horse 153 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 4: getting spooked, where all you can think of is like 154 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: should I should I skip this one? Should I go 155 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: to that one? Why didn't that work? What's going on? 156 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: And it's and that's taking the real estate in your 157 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: head instead of what's next. So it's very hard to 158 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: go flow through your act when the side thought is like, wait, 159 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 4: I probably shouldn't even do this one. Wait, I'm look 160 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: at my set lists for one second ago, I gotta 161 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: jump ahead. This one won't work. Oh, they don't seem 162 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: like that. I gotta go a little slower because they're 163 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: not hearing me. Is the sound right? 164 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: You're wrestling with yourself as you're up there. 165 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's kind of it's almost kind of amusing 166 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 4: because it's such a challenge and it checks you that 167 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 4: you don't always kill and you're not so great. 168 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: Here's where I also think you're different than most comedians, 169 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: and I've been around a lot of them thanks to you. 170 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I tried my hand at also back in the. 171 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: Day in New York City, right nineteen ninety. 172 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: One, long ago. It Man, it's so I way rather 173 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: step in the chase and get kicked by the world. Yeah, 174 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: stand up there naked and just like, man, a lot 175 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: of times I feel well in control. 176 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: But you were one of the only guys I'm around 177 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: who's funny naturally when we hang out like this is 178 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: not an act right here, You're always funny where most 179 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: of them are real introverted. But I understand why, Like 180 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: if someone's constantly walking up to going, hey, make me laugh, 181 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: Hey tell me the joke. It's like to an account, 182 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: Hey do my taxes right here, Hey give me a tip. 183 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: Like you know, I wouldn't want to be out in public. 184 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: It's there's just a huge difference between you and everybody else. 185 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 4: Well there's a nice part of it too, because when 186 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 4: people see you, like if I was at the Venetian 187 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: this weekend, when they see you, they kind of light up, 188 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: like they go, oh, this is the guy. It reminds 189 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: them of something fun or a movie they saw a 190 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: TV show, So that part's nice about it. It's hard 191 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: to always be funny, and you know, some people want it, 192 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 4: or if they meet you, they want I mean I 193 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: was out with a woman I used to date and 194 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: she she would always laugh. She goes you say literally 195 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: almost nothing and the waiter laughs, and it's so embarrassing 196 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: because these are like c minus jokes like is the 197 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: butter cold? They're like rap, and she's like, it's not 198 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 4: even a fucking joke, dude, and they're like are there? 199 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 5: Are You're already halfway there to get a laugh whenever 200 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 5: people see you, so you don't have to do much. 201 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 5: But I do think that some comics you have to 202 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 5: extract it from them because they're very introverted. 203 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 4: But you know, comics are sort of known for being 204 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: nuts and which is a word we don't use here, 205 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 4: but you know what I mean, like. 206 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: For good okay, but you. 207 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 5: Know, to not make to make light of it, which 208 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 5: is actually underneath it. 209 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: It's a little serious that they have struggles, but so 210 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 4: does everyone. So I think comics get a wrap of 211 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: Oh they have the hardest lives, and that's how it 212 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 4: comes out of their comedy. But I just think it 213 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 4: is it is some form of therapy to talk about 214 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: things in your life that are tough and try to 215 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 4: spin them in a positive get something. 216 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: Out of them that way. 217 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: So do you think a lot of you think more 218 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: are introverted because people are constantly estimate to laugh, or 219 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: do you think that's how they normally are and we 220 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: just see the therapeutic version on stage. 221 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 4: I think they were. They're damaged goods by the time 222 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 4: you see them. They're like built on shifty sand and 223 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: it's always a house of cards. They there's some that 224 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: are more cuckoo than others. But I think I'm weird, 225 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: but I'm not quite as obviously crazy as some of 226 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: these people. But I hang out with almost you know, 227 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm definitely not that's not ask anyone, but 228 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: it's it's a little more cloaked than the obvious, like 229 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: you know, I mean there's some that, but I think 230 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 4: that's interesting in people, and I think it's interesting then 231 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: more than being so like Marlon Blando. I just don't 232 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: want someone that's so average. And comedians are very weird. 233 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: They make me laugh, but sometimes it's such dark humor 234 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 4: and such this, but it's all funny to me, and 235 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 4: I think I'm gravitated to people that are really funny 236 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: and really like off kilter a bit. Those are That's 237 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 4: where I laughed the hardest. 238 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: Usually I've never asked you when was your big break 239 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: or how'd you get it? 240 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: And what's the what's the conversation when you're like, oh, man, okay, 241 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: like this is what I work so hard for. 242 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 4: You know, there was so there was so many micro 243 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 4: breaks that maybe you had this happen where doing stand 244 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: up and doing Amateur Hour and being invited back that 245 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 4: was like I did an amateur night and the guy goes, ah, 246 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: I like the way you mumbled your jokes in between 247 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: your jokes, and I'm like, I don't remember doing it. 248 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: He goes, you'd say a joke and then you'd comment 249 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 4: on how it didn't work, and he goes, He's like, 250 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 4: you know what, you can come back next week if 251 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 4: you want. I'm like, oh my god, that was like 252 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 4: a little bit of a push in the right direction 253 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 4: of like I didn't do good at all. But he goes, 254 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: I just like that little part. And then that's where 255 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: I built my rest to my whole career on that. 256 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 4: So where where that was it? That was at Chuckles 257 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: in Scottstille, Arizona, and Chuckles was like dumpy little comedy club, 258 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 4: but it was a big. 259 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: Did you get your start in Scottsdale? 260 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, as I told as I told Colin Quinn, 261 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 4: I go, uh, he's a comic. I said, I was 262 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: doing it back in Arizona before there was a big 263 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: comedy scene. He goes, So you're saying there's a big 264 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: comedy scene there now, well, somewhat of a scene. I mean, 265 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 4: most comics live in New York and like, because you 266 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 4: get to go on a lot, you can go to 267 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 4: different clubs, laugh Factory in Prague, Comedies and New York 268 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: has even more. That's why it's hard to like, move 269 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 4: to Austin or move to Nashville that are all enticing 270 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 4: places that sound fun, But where do you rotate on 271 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: a lot every night in practice? So back to I 272 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 4: did it. I was eighteen. All my friends were in college. 273 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: I stayed and went to community college. Not because I 274 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: was too smart, but uh, because I couldn't get into 275 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 4: any college. So I didn't pitch you. 276 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: Out, Old Trafford. You played football at Phoenix College online. 277 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: You know I was a walk on and then they 278 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 4: told me to walk off. 279 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyone can walk. 280 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: On this summer, are allowed to keep playing? Yeah, I 281 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 4: played football line, I played fantasy, but I play a 282 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: mean fantasy football, which is stressful. So I go to 283 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 4: this comedy club and see someone and I was so 284 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: blown out by the fact they could do an hour 285 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 4: of just talking. I'm like, this guy, I've never been 286 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: I've only seen, you know, on Johnny Carson or Leno 287 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: or Letterman do six minutes. And I'm like, is this 288 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 4: guy making this ship ups? It's so smooth, and so 289 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: I go. I would love to try it. No one 290 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: was around, My friends were all gone, and it's first time. 291 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: You know, high school, you have so many people around 292 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: you at all times, there's always something to do. College 293 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: I leave, so I was, I go, I want to 294 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 4: do something different on board and I I said, can 295 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 4: I try this? And it was so fucking terrifying to 296 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 4: go in there and I had a few notes and 297 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, you only get three minutes. It seems like 298 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: five hours. I just go blah blah blah. And then 299 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: I get off and they go, you can do it 300 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: next week if you want. I'm like really, And so 301 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: I did it, and then I got the bug. That 302 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: was a bowlum no. I got the comedy bug. And 303 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: so I went and started doing it more. And then 304 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: I just said, I just want to do this, whether 305 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,359 Speaker 4: I make any money. 306 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: Was What was that break? What was that? Hey was SNL? 307 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: You're first? 308 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 4: Well, I'm sorry, yeah, I'm taking too long. I got 309 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: that little break. So I started getting like these amateur 310 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: nights you just go on. Then a break was a 311 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: big one was driving out to LA staying with some 312 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: comics and they said, why don't you audition at the 313 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: comedy store on the improv when I was nineteen and 314 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: they were twenty, And I said, shit, I don't know 315 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: if I'm ready. Louis Anderson, bless his heart, saw me 316 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: and said, I know some other comics you know, if 317 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: you want, I get you in the comedy store. I 318 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 4: went there, did pretty good. He walked out the sidewalk 319 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: on sunset. I go there all the time now at 320 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 4: the County stroll time. I remember right where I was standing, 321 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: and he goes, he comes out, He goes, yeah, she 322 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: didn't like you. Oh fuck fuck really and he goes 323 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: and I did pretty good. I go, oh really, go yeah, 324 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. That was Mitzi Shore. They owned the comedy store. 325 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: So that's final work. So I get my confidence back 326 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: after a few weeks, and my other friend said, I'll 327 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: try it the improv. I go to the improv and 328 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: they say. The guy goes, yeah, you can call him 329 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 4: for spots. And I'm like, what does that mean? And 330 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: they go, you did it. That's that means you pass. 331 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: Oh. 332 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: So we go to the corner to do a shot. 333 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 4: I'm twenty and they know Bruce Willis from Moonlighting, and 334 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: I always love Bruce Willis, especially then I do now 335 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: and he goes, oh, I'll buy you a shot for 336 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 4: your birth, for your making, and this is me twenty 337 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: and there's a star. We go to a shot and 338 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: the waiter goes, do you have ID? And I go, 339 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: it's in the car. And he goes, you have a car. 340 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: I go, it's in this shop. And so they took 341 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: it away, and everyone sort of dissipated. 342 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: I go, wait, so to celebrate your big night with 343 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: Bruce Willis, they took your shot away? 344 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 345 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: Oh, And I was like. 346 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 4: And then I got an audition for a movie and 347 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: my second break was Police Academy four. I was twenty. 348 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: I did not want to act. I went in for 349 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 4: the audition and they said, you know what. It was 350 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: a happy accident. They go, we don't have the script here, 351 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: it'll be here in an hour. 352 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: You know. 353 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: Just you're a skateboarder, you're you're twenty one, just say 354 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 4: some stuff, just go. And it was so lucky because 355 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: script I would have been like this, I don't know 356 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 4: what to do with this scrip. I would just read it. 357 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: I just read it and look up at the end 358 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: and go. And they go, you don't know what you're doing, 359 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: so you couldn't tell. I didn't know what I was 360 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: doing because I was just making up stuff and it 361 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: looked smooth. They gave me a job. I went to Toronto, 362 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 4: played a skateboarder, came back with my money and I 363 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: had cleared six gram. I bought a car, drove to 364 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: the Improv and it was stolen an hour later. No, 365 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 4: and that was another hit the wall. WHOA talk about 366 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 4: your unbreakable moments. I was like, ah, so I just 367 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 4: did ten weeks on a movie and I'm back to 368 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 4: zero wow, And I don't have a car. So I 369 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: hit up Bob kat who was in the movie, Bob Kilfley, 370 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 4: who did me a solid. He said, I'll lend you 371 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 4: six grand to get another car. Wow, then pay me 372 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: back when you can wow. And I'm going to pay 373 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: him back soon. I just want to. 374 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: Get a little bit to make it right, to make 375 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: it good. Found. 376 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: Actually, I I paid about three somehow after about a 377 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 4: year or two, and then I I was so embarrassed. 378 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: I went to another comedian and got six or three 379 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 4: and I paid him up and then I had to 380 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 4: owe him and that took while. 381 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: So you really started the Ponzi scheme. 382 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 4: I really started. And then I went to Bernie Madoff 383 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: and I said, here's how you do it. But yeah, 384 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: it's it was very tricky to stay on my feet 385 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: and keep my head together. But really it's about I've 386 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 4: got no place else to go. Officer to gentlemen, I 387 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 4: don't have any three I've picked comedy, and like a 388 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: lot of people that say, oh, I'm going to go 389 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 4: to LA, I give it a year, I wouldn't even 390 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 4: do that because it's more like you just pick it 391 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 4: and that's it because in a year they're in shit 392 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 4: that's going to happen. So I would say, Okay, in 393 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 4: a year, if you're one percent better than last year, 394 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: like you had one audition, you're going the right way. 395 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 4: Off the next year you actually got an agent, but 396 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: you only have two auditions, but now you have an agent. 397 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: These are all the stepping stones where you have to get. 398 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 3: So instead of doing it, I'm sorry got you off 399 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: because I'm still worried there. But I think what most 400 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: people do is they look at it week by week, 401 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: you right, and they compare themselves week by week and 402 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: they beat up on themselves too much. 403 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: They get too hard. 404 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 4: You did it year by year, yeah, and you can't 405 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: help but beat yourself up week by week. That's a 406 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: true competitor. And I get that that's what I was 407 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 4: and in show. But it's like almost anything you're fighting age, 408 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 4: they always like you better if you're an actor actress 409 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 4: at twenty, then you know, look at you four. You 410 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 4: look at all these shows and look at you age 411 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 4: out of things. And I'm an old white guy and 412 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: I'm you know, supposedly rich. I'm literally like an exce 413 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 4: on board member. I'm the worst case enemy of the world. 414 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 2: Like they're like. 415 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: Everything we hate and everyone's complaints are coming this way. 416 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: It's like, so I just sit back and I'm lucky 417 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 4: I got this far. But that was a hard thing 418 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: to just keep going car stolen, new car, no frills, 419 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 4: barely eating, just grinding out gigs and writing and trying 420 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 4: to be good at the thing I picked. Because there's 421 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 4: no real stavment. I don't mean richness in the family, 422 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 4: like I don't have the fallback, like all right, my uncle, sorry, 423 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 4: I had to do this, but I need ten k. 424 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 4: It was like nobody. I remember one guy that was 425 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: my friend's brother, and I tell him this. I remind 426 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 4: him he wanted to be in a comedian, the kid 427 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 4: and a good guy, and his brother was rich for 428 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 4: us because I think he had a Camaro. We were 429 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: in Arizona, going, this fucking guy's got a zees twenty eight. 430 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: We should all kill him and take all his money. 431 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: You know. 432 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 4: He was like, he's rich. He probably had four grand 433 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: in the bank. I said, if you I gave to 434 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: him with a proposition, if I was probably nineteen or twenty, 435 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 4: if you get me the shittiest apartment in LA and 436 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 4: the crummiest car, I will give you fifteen percent of 437 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: everything for the rest of my life. I said, I'll 438 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: write it. I'll do anything you say. And he passed. 439 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 4: And then he passed smartly. 440 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 5: But then about four years ago, four years ago, he goes, hey, 441 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 5: can we still get it on that deal? 442 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 4: Is that's still going? I'll drop it to ten? 443 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 444 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: And that was funny because I remember it saying, and 445 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: I saw him later and he goes, remember, I go, 446 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 4: oh my god, that's right. He goes, I just should 447 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 4: have jumped on. It wouldn't have cost him that much. 448 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: But it was risky. So getting into the improv, getting 449 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 4: a movie, and then got an agent off the movie 450 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: and a manager, and then it was a grind to 451 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 4: get on the HBO Young Comedie Special. 452 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: So then so then you're building your team though at 453 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 3: least yeahs, over time you'll build your team. So how 454 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: long and what point did you finally get let's say 455 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: your break where Okay, I got I can excel, I 456 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 3: got some stability to security. 457 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: My life is changed. 458 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 4: Ah, that took a while because because HBO. 459 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: And commedian people to hear us understand this. 460 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they passed on me for three years in 461 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 4: a row. Now I'm an actual young comedian and I'm 462 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: doing well for the circuit for bubbling under like you know, 463 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: people like football player, you know, you're like, keep an 464 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 4: eye on this guy, and they keep passing on me. 465 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: It's like the draft. I'm fucking Will Levin's over there 466 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 4: going I didn't get it again, and then they're like, oh, 467 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 4: we took Richard bellser like, I'm a young comedian, he's 468 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 4: seventy seven, so so I don't get don't get it. 469 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: And then I finally Dennis Miller's the host, he pushes 470 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 4: them to let me be the sixth guy instead of 471 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 4: five on the last time I didn't get it, We 472 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 4: do it. SNL sees that I get not is Presnel. 473 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: Now I get on this, But I'm a writer performed, 474 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 4: which is why I said Writer's Guild, because. 475 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: You're not on cameraw No. 476 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: But they said, that's how Chevy Chase, that's how a 477 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: lot of these guys do it. You write yourself on, 478 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: but you got to write for Dana Carve. You gotta 479 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: write for everyone first. So I'm like shit, So I said, okay, 480 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 4: and I don't want to write for anyone. I don't 481 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 4: know how to write for anyone. So now I'm at 482 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: the lowest totem poll on the best place, and that 483 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 4: was really pulling my hair out. And then I got 484 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 4: through that. 485 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: Wait, how long did it take for you to write 486 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: yourself on and get your first. 487 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 4: It took about three years. No. I was on camera 488 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: here and there, but I couldn't get They kept saying, 489 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 4: I don't know if we're going to keep you next year. 490 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: So it was anxiety levels wow. And then I started 491 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 4: getting on more and more, and then to Hollywood Minute, 492 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 4: and then I started going this, and then we did 493 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 4: movies and then it was like okay. By the time 494 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: I left, I go okay, I got something out of that. 495 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: I didn't get what everyone got out of it, but 496 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: I got second half. I did better. Then I got 497 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 4: Just Shoot Me, and that was a big break. About 498 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: halfway through Just Shoot Me, they picked it up for 499 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: a third season. I go, okay, I'm okay, I'm okay. Really, 500 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: I'm going to stay in this business. 501 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: So how many years was that when you started? 502 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 4: Jeez? I started at like eighteen nineteen. I thought I 503 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 4: was set when I was like by the time I 504 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: hit thirty, I go, I'm at least gonna do this forever. 505 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: There's no turning back. And I got a little bit 506 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: of money, which goes faster than I thought. 507 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: But I thought, I want to. 508 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 3: Give people hope here because it's twelve years and people don't, 509 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: especially nowadays when you look at everybody else on social 510 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 3: media and there's so much immediacy, like it. 511 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 2: Look, it took me eleven years. 512 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 3: I was making nive thousand, four hundred and fifty bucks 513 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: a year living in New York City, right and before 514 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: I finally got my first full time job. 515 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: And I just want people to understand that you got 516 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: to be in it for the long ride, right. It 517 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 2: took over Ieas for us, it's twelve years. 518 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it took you fourteen to grow that cotique. So hey, hey, hey, 519 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 4: I tow that away. 520 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 2: Look down, you're really talking to me about puberty. 521 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: Seriously, I know this is this took nine years and 522 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 4: now it's great, and I'm like, why am I advertising 523 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 4: I'm old? Look at this picture, Jay, Look at that. 524 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 4: That's the old album. That's Sandler's first album, that's Rob Schneider. Yeah. 525 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 4: I like, uh, that's an old good picture. So anyway, 526 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: got that, did movies and then you know it was 527 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: there's always a punch in the face along the way. 528 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it never never seems to get easy. But 529 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: from the outside it looks good. And when you see 530 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 4: Instagram and all that, I would hate to be a 531 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 4: kid where you have to have physical proof you're doing well, 532 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 4: Like look I have a Gucci bag. Look I have 533 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 4: a Rolls Royce. It's like, look, how does anyone have 534 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 4: any money? Everything's so expensive. I can't believe it. 535 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: I don't know if I could have gotten through it, 536 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: but look, I somehow we would have found a way. 537 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: But man, it's just having to, yeah, constantly proof things 538 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 3: and show things when it's not real. None of it's real, right, 539 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: No one struggles anymore on Instagram when the only way 540 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 3: we get where you are is by struggling. 541 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, adversity is a gift and people don't realize that anymore. 542 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: It is. And there's a world now where I feel 543 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 4: like the laws are a bit leaner, where they're not 544 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 4: after everybody is hard and the parents are looser, and 545 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 4: I feel like there's not as much adversity because everyone's 546 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 4: just sort of I don't know, it's hard. 547 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: To you could transfer schools, you could. 548 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 4: There's not enough resistance out there. You're like, we break 549 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: the law, you'll probably get away with it. The parents 550 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: will probably let you get away with this. And not 551 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 4: everyone's because everyone's helicoptering, and it just there's something about 552 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: having a little bit of adversity. 553 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: That's absolutely There's so many stories about you know, our 554 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 3: sports stars where they got benched or didn't make it 555 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: or something, you know, and now it happens they just transferred, right, 556 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: It's not like, hey. 557 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 4: We're gonna oh yeah that is anything that is, there's transfer. 558 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: So the Matt Foley skit, people don't know the story 559 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: of the backstory. 560 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: Look, I know, cow Bell is the greatest skitt in 561 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: SNL history. He saying, I love I love the motivational speaker. Yeah, 562 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: I love I love the backstory. 563 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: People don't understand the backstory of what Laura Michael's actually did. 564 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 3: But tell me, as you guys are doing this with 565 00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 3: with Chris Farley. 566 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: I hope this is the one I've told you because 567 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: I lie so much. Well, first of all, I love 568 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: cow Bell. It's always hard to pick the best one 569 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 4: because I do that podcast and we talked to people 570 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 4: about their favorites. I mean, I was telling Rachl Padrasch 571 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 4: Debbie Downer going to Disneyland is one of my top 572 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 4: twenty sketches of all time, and it's just there's so many. 573 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: How do you rank them? Old snl Belus Living by 574 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: the River? Yeah, that one gets a lot of tensions. 575 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 4: So a couple of things you tell and so I 576 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 4: don't want Yeah, yeah, you tell me. 577 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: But how it was passed on? And then how y'all 578 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: got in trouble? 579 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: Oh okay, so it was it was passed on. It 580 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 4: was brought Bob Odenkirk, brought up from Second City and 581 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 4: he was a writer. 582 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: Bob Odenkirk. Really I didn't know that. 583 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, really, better call Saul. Yeah yeah, but I call Saul. 584 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: Wow, he wrote it. 585 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: That's his big one, and uh, he was a feature 586 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 4: player like me and a writer, but he didn't get 587 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 4: enough breaks on us though, So it was Conan O'Brien. 588 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 4: He was there with me and he didn't get enough breaks. 589 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 4: So we have great writing. We have Varley who's has Ericle, 590 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 4: the perfect character for him that in Chippendale's but motivational speaker. 591 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 4: When he does it, you know, so it finally gets on. 592 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 2: How many times has it passed over? I don't know. 593 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 4: I think Bob said twice. And then Bob left the show, 594 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: and the first season back, he's gone, we do it, 595 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 4: And so I think Bob came in to oversea it 596 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 4: or something. But so Farley pulling on his you know, 597 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 4: I think the story you can tell me the parts 598 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 4: I'm missing, But he was pulling on his belt. He 599 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: was doing stuff he didn't do in hers. And Christina, 600 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 4: who's bless her heart, is great and she is the host. Yeah, 601 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 4: CHRISTINAI doesn't know what's going on, how to be in sketches. 602 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: It's just like a whirlwind for her. So weird is 603 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 4: but she can tell I can't even deal with it. 604 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 4: And I'm supposed to be the season grizzled vet. And 605 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: when Farley starts acting even more ridiculous. It just caught 606 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 4: me off guard, and so I was kind of burying 607 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: my head, going, oh my god, I can't laugh in 608 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 4: a sketch, but it was so funny, and then it 609 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: got her going, and then Farley just gets so juiced 610 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 4: by that because he wants to ruin the sketch to 611 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 4: make everyone laugh. It turned out to be. The funny 612 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 4: thing is it's over and they're like, okay, now we're 613 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 4: doing update. Everyone getting and it's such a fast paced 614 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 4: world without Instagram, you don't even hear if it's funny 615 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 4: until the next day on Sunday someone calls. He goes, 616 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 4: you know that one where Farley was acting like a 617 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 4: goofball that was really good and we're like yeah, and 618 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 4: you realize you hear so much after that, wow, and 619 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 4: to this day, so you don't really know which ones 620 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 4: are gonna so you laughing, Oh yeah, we're laughing, which 621 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 4: the boss doesn't like. You know, Lauren is notoriously they've 622 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 4: lifted that in the in the last couple of years. 623 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: You know that rule because a lot of. 624 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: Them you're right, you're not allowed to laugh back then. 625 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you have to report to Lauren, and 626 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 4: you know, everyone's like, oh, you fucked up. You know 627 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: you cannot and he tells you don't laugh. We're not 628 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 4: the Carol Burnett show. This isn't how we do it. 629 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: This is real. And you know that was like a 630 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: crutch for them to laugh on Kilburnett. 631 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: But I told me that there was a ramification. 632 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead tell me. He said he suspended you. 633 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: He didn't suspend me. That was a little Tito's talking. Okay, 634 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 4: I was shadow band. You're the same thing. 635 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: He pulled you off. 636 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 4: Well you're not, like your sketches aren't being picked for 637 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 4: a while. 638 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: That's a suspension. 639 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 4: Well it's more. But it wasn't shocking because I wasn't 640 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 4: on the show that much. So it's like I don't 641 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 4: even know what's going on. 642 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got punished for it. For the growers, 643 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: what the greatest sketches of all time? 644 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: There's a slight repercussions. But I remember one time Farley 645 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 4: when he had to pick me up and throw me 646 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 4: to the table. I said, how are we going to 647 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 4: do this? He goes, whatever happens happens. I go, Okay, 648 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: I guess it's not John Wick. We're not going to 649 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 4: like go through the beats. So he picks me up, 650 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 4: spends me. 651 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: The wrong way. 652 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: We fall to the table and I hit my head 653 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: and I go oh, And then it goes to commercially 654 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 4: he comes off, He goes, why did you act hurt? 655 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: You ruined it. 656 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: I go, I haven't heard you land on my head 657 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: with your fat body, And I go, you could have 658 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: easily landed on you. But I go, we should have 659 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 4: done it once or just practice like I'm gonna turn 660 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 4: you fall through the table. 661 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: So did Lord. 662 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: Michael go once he got the feedback how great it was? 663 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: Did he rescind your your what? 664 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 4: No, I'm hyping it up. It was all good and 665 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 4: fun and uh and Farley went on like a rocket ship, 666 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 4: you know. That was that, and Chippendale's just put him 667 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 4: into stratosphere and it never turned back, and then going 668 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 4: on a Tommy boy and going on all this, They 669 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: all just cemented him. 670 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: Have you ever fully been able to process what happened 671 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: in you. 672 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 4: Know, I think those things are so final, and it 673 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 4: doesn't like with anybody, it doesn't hit you that it's fine. 674 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: It's just so hard to believe that it's done. It's 675 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 4: so hard to believe that it's over, you know, and uh, 676 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 4: he would add such a long hopefully. I mean, he 677 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 4: could have had anything he wanted in this town of 678 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 4: you know, people were looking the other way for a 679 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 4: long time, and that still happens, you know that, Like, 680 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: but didn't anything. I remember one time when you you 681 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: remember this is kind of changed of it. But his 682 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: brother was with us, who's kind of heavier, who looks 683 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: just like him, who was was a t o. Someone 684 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 4: said to. 685 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: You, Randy Moss, and what did he say? 686 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 4: He saw me and him together and we're all eating 687 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: having lunch, watching football, and then out of the blue, 688 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 4: he's like, what are you guys the guys from Tommy Boys. 689 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: No, no, no, he was like, jee, I love that 690 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 3: guy over there, that motivational speaker. 691 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: And I mean he thought it was Chris. 692 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 4: I think he's like, I'm his biggest fan. That biggest 693 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 4: fan would have known he died ten years. 694 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: Rand's not that's not Chris Chris. Don't you think I 695 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: would have known some ship like that? Yeah, you think 696 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: it would have. 697 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're telling me that motherfucker over there, not 698 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 3: that guy from the Motivational Speaker. 699 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: Exactly what I'm telling he. 700 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 4: Goes, well, hein't not embarrassing, but you know what, he 701 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 4: gets that more than you think, so I don't hold 702 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 4: it against. 703 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: Him that that was hilarious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, your last questionnaire. Yes, 704 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: I asked this from every guest. 705 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: Give me you're in a break all the moment, the 706 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: one thing in your life it should have broken, you didn't, 707 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: and as a result, you came through the other side 708 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: of that tunnel stronger forever. 709 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: That's sort of a complex question I would have to say. 710 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 4: I would have to go with I'll go with probably 711 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: dad leaving. Dad leaving when I was four. My brother's 712 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 4: just six and eight, And that's a hard one. That's 713 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 4: a very hard one. I didn't really even notice how 714 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 4: hard it was because I had a lot of anger. 715 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 4: It just came out in different ways with all of us. 716 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: And when you want someone to rely on, or you're sick, 717 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 4: when you're eleven and you want to call your dad, 718 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: you can't. He calls me when he wants. You know, 719 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: he was around, he just wasn't available, And so that 720 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 4: was a very tough one even throughout my life. But 721 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 4: I think in a world of like a victim mentality, 722 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 4: I have to say I can't just talk about those things. 723 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: You have to just say, here's the cards you're dealt 724 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 4: and go forward or not because no one's there to 725 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 4: help you. That's not any one's job. So if you 726 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 4: want to move forward, you got to take what happens 727 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 4: and move forward. You can't just blame, blame, blame. I mean, 728 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 4: it's easier said than done, and I have not done 729 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 4: it perfectly, but I just realized it's either that or nothing. 730 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 4: It was like the Joder movie. That was part of 731 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 4: it going. You got to keep keeping on because what 732 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 4: else you going to do? So I had to do it. 733 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 4: My mom luckily was so great and made up the 734 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 4: best she could, so I owe her everything. But yeah, 735 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: that was that was it. It bothered me, you know 736 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: for obviously for a long or right. 737 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, listen helps make you who you are, and 738 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: that's you know, our pain and a lot of people 739 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: have that. Yeah, what molds us into being as resilient 740 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: as we are. 741 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: Right yeah, brother, I appreciate you, all right, thank you, brother, 742 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. 743 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: Man, Thank you so much. 744 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 4: Man. 745 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: Hey, I always know I can count you people. Again, 746 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: you see him on camera and you know he's always 747 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: laughing joking, but he's also one of the most loyal 748 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 3: people I've ever met my entire life. 749 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: So love you, brother, Thank you for joining me. 750 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 4: Good Man, thanks Bell, talk to you later.