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Speaker 1: Happy me a year, guys, it's three unbelievable. I'm trapped

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Speaker 1: was like, don't wear those pantyhose. You look like ten

422
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: cents of dance, just like it's not even a phrase.

423
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: Well yeah, anyway, it just moves so fast. So I

424
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: like the setup of the whole fundraiser blah blah blah.

425
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: So then we go into Luke's and I thought that

426
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: scene with Kirk and Miss Patty, he's all jazz hands,

427
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: flaming baton and then she's just like He's like, are

428
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: you listening and she's like not sense a day you're born? Ye,

429
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: And it's just like it wasn't was it needed? No

430
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: for the plot. But it's just so good, right, great,

431
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: Great for the characters, great for the relationships. Great. Oh

432
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: I do have a flag on the play though. Okay, okay,

433
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: so you know how we have of all this about Carrie? Right,

434
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: so if she is, so Liz is coming and staying

435
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: with her, and you had this like one night Shenanigans,

436
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: maybe at the prom whatever. The town is the size

437
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: of a piece, So why do you never see her? Yeah?

438
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that she lives. That Carrie lives in

439
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: Stars Hall? Does she? Did they say that she does?

440
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just assumed if Liz was staying

441
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: with her, that's a good point. If she's I mean,

442
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: I guess they could have stayed at an end together.

443
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: But I don't know. You know, we don't We don't

444
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: see every single character and stars Hollow, I mean, what

445
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: do you think a small town is a couple of thousand?

446
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 1: Five thousand? I guess that's true. I mean, how are

447
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: you gonna see all of now? We see her when

448
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: we need to see her, right, she's not. Maybe she

449
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: lives on the outskirts. I don't know. Yeah, it's just's

450
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: a mystery. Anyway, they couldn't make your deal. Right. Anyway,

451
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: they threw big fat studio money at her and she said,

452
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: now who knows, you know? So okay, So that aside,

453
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: that's sort of the one plot hole and it kind

454
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: of comes up later when you bump into the three girls.

455
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: But we'll talk about it then. Okay. So then we've

456
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: got Liz in the ear rings in the diner, which

457
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: actually lead to funny moments between Luke and Liz, like

458
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: they have a cool interaction. Yeah, you know, I thought

459
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: he could have. I mean, I understand why he didn't

460
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: want it in his dinner. He's just who he is

461
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: and that's just how it is. But he could have

462
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: let her. You know, I was like, just let herself

463
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: some ear rings. What's the big deal? But that means

464
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: she's going to stay if they sell, she's and you know,

465
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: he didn't want that. He wants her to move on.

466
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to deal with it. Patty would buy

467
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: the ear rings though, right, Like it was a toss

468
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: in between to your buying the ear rings. I'm happy

469
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: Patty did. Yeah. Hey, I'm Lance Bass, host of the

470
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471
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472
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473
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474
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483
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484
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489
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: to podcasts. Okay, so there is something about Liz that's like, Okay,

490
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: so I don't know if you caught it. She goes

491
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 1: like you need to nap jack. Everybody's cool, it's cool.

492
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: Like the way she talks is so seventies, like hippie cool,

493
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: like you need a nap jack. Everybody's cool with the earrings.

494
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: It's cool like and I kind of like it as

495
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: a juxtaposition to Luke, who's so sort of uptight gradging.

496
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: They really feel like siblings. Well, she seems like she's

497
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: doing really good in this episode, Like I'm like, oh,

498
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, she seems like she's she's I don't know,

499
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: doing something good for herself. But then in the back

500
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: of my head, I'm like, and obviously I don't know

501
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: what happens, but I'm like, one's the ball going to draw?

502
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, I think the problem with that

503
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: dynamic with the brothers sister thing, and he's coming to

504
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: the rescue all the time and cleaning up the messages.

505
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: He's got a memory of he's got bad memories and

506
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: she has a very short memory span and she has

507
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: good memories. It's all positive for her because now you know,

508
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: she has the ability to, um, you know, to recreate

509
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: her life all the time because she's always recovering. She's

510
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: always in some kind of recovery. UM. So it doesn't

511
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're living on two different planes. That

512
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: is such a great example that you just nailed it there, Scott,

513
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: because the way she sees him, her brother Luke, is

514
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: not the way he thinks she sees him. And we

515
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: learned that so much through her conversation with Laura Lai

516
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: and the way she sees him as her hero, her savior.

517
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: It's almost like, in some ways it's amazing, but it

518
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: also is why maybe she keeps failing. He'll say of me,

519
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: he'll give me money, He'll get me a place to stay.

520
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: She doesn't ever have to be She gave her kid

521
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: to him, right, She's it's always a super positive experience

522
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: for her to be with him, because that's the hope

523
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: for her. That he's gonna, like we talked about in

524
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: the last episode, that he's gonna show up. He's just

525
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna keep giving, giving, giving, and that's my brother and

526
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: I love him. He's gonna be there for me. So

527
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: that's great for her. What are the effect what's the

528
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: effect on him? It's it's it's horrible. It's a horrible,

529
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: devastating effect. We'll think about it the way she spoke

530
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: about him to Lord Lie and we'll get into the

531
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: nitty gritty of it is so different than the way

532
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: he speaks about her. They don't have. The relationship is

533
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: not equal. He is always having to do everything, and

534
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: she's like, I love him, He's my hero. He saves me.

535
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: I mess up, he fixes it. I mess up, he

536
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: fixes it, and he's like exhausted by it. It's what

537
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: is that reciprocal? It's not reciprocal. That's the word. Their

538
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: relationship is not reciprocal. Yeah, it's it's like, I don't know,

539
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: unrequited love. It's just what it's just what brothers do.

540
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: You know, just what her brother does. It's just what

541
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: brothers do. Yeah, big brothers that they've always done. They'll

542
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: always do it. And uh, you know, he's got to

543
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: find he's got to find it deep within himself to

544
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: forgive her and to get over it and to move

545
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: forward with positivity. I guess. But he just so she

546
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: scares the hell out of him totally, and that brings

547
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: up something that I'm going to go out of order,

548
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: but I think it's important because we're talking about it.

549
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: Luke put that money in the car, Yeah, like that

550
00:33:54,200 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: was major, Like he can't not help these people, right,

551
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: so he could he's so hurt by Jess, right, I mean,

552
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Jess just gave him the biggest gut punch ever. And

553
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: he went over to because he said, when I went

554
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: over to Gypsies, she was still work. She was about

555
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: finished with the car. And so you know by that

556
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: he's gone over there and he put that money up

557
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: in the and it's like, oh my god, this guy

558
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: hurt him so much, but that's his kid, so he's like,

559
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: he needs that money. You know, that was a brilliant

560
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: scene between Jess and Luke, but I think it was

561
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: incredibly unfair, h and petty and easy and cheap shots.

562
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: It was just, you know, Luke was formed. Uh you know,

563
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: people are formed through their experiences, right, and they are

564
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: who they are through their experiences in life. That's what

565
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: teaches them and that's how Luke became Um. And for

566
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: somebody to just rip the mask off that, I thought

567
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: it was cruel and I thought it showed um a

568
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: depravity on Jesse's part that is completely debilitating him. Jess,

569
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: I think it said. I think it said more about

570
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: Jess than it than it does about Luke. And I

571
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: think there's some truth even though there's some truth to

572
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: what he was saying, Um, the manner in which that

573
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: information was delivered was cruel, and it was heartless, and

574
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: it was mean spirit, which is why Lauraa calls him

575
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: out keep going, keep going, deep deeply troubled person. Uh

576
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: And and my opinion of him went down a couple

577
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: of notches. Um. It's it's either he's so troubled that

578
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: he's lashing out at everything, which is probably the case

579
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: because he was you know, it looks like he was

580
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: raised by a couple of addicts who didn't want to

581
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: bother him. Um, So this is a deep seated anchor.

582
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: This is a rage. So you know, Milo is filled

583
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: with rage. And I think that's especially what Loyal is

584
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: responding to stay with my daughter because even though you

585
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: have these other personalities, you have these other qualities, doesn't matter,

586
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: Your rage wipes them all out. So stay away from

587
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: her because one moment could end my daughter's future with you.

588
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: And he's singlehandedly like crushing the two people closest to

589
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's one common denominator.

590
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: This guy is ruining their life. He is hurting them

591
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: so badly. The ultimate rebel, the ultimate bad boy. But boy,

592
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: he just he just ripped Luke and new one now

593
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: there is okay, So I guess there is some truth

594
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: to what he said and that he's not wrong like that.

595
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: Luke is always trying to fix things, but Luke does

596
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: it with intentions. And also he Luke does it out

597
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: of love. Now he's not long. But the other thing

598
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: that he's not factoring in with Liz now he knows it.

599
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: The reason you're Luke is worried about Liz is because

600
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: of the past. So even if she's doing well now,

601
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: he's so like worried, like this is just going to

602
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: be like all the rest well. I think it's a

603
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: sign of strength in Luke that people try to call

604
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: him out that it's actually a sign of their weakness

605
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: when they say these things like I never asked you

606
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: to help me. That to me is a sign of

607
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: extraordinary weakness and ingratitude on somebody's part when they say

608
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: that that is the worst thing you could That's the

609
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: most revealing thing you could say to somebody. I never

610
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: asked you to do that. When somebody steps up and

611
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: does the right thing for somebody and then resents that

612
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: person for doing it because they don't feel like they

613
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: want to owe somebody something because I never asked you

614
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: to do that, and that's because they're both but my ass. Okay,

615
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: but screw you because you have problems and you know

616
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: you want to feel like a martyr and you want

617
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: to do this, Well, guess what, You're just trying to

618
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: justify your own crappy behavior and ingratitude to what a

619
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: person that you respect to. So that's why I thought

620
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: it was such a low blow, because people like that

621
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: drive me crazy. It is a hundred it's a hundred

622
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: percent low blow. But just playing Devil's advocate, I feel

623
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: like just is also in he does he did this

624
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: to Rory. He knows that Rory is so much better

625
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: than him that he has to go away, you know

626
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like at least that's what is like

627
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: his insecurity, like I'm not good enough for her. Yeah.

628
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: But but I think he feels the same way about Luke,

629
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: Like I think he genuinely thinks this person is like

630
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: the only father figure he's ever had and he doesn't

631
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: want to be there to ruin his life, like in

632
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: a weird way, Like I do get that impression doesn't

633
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: make it right, but like it's almost like he's doing

634
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: it for the right reasons, even though in his head,

635
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: I think in Rory case, yes, and Luke's case, it's

636
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: a bit of a stretch for me to get there. Um.

637
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: You know, but I hear what you're saying. I think

638
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: subconsciously people do do this. Um. Yeah, it's interesting. It's

639
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: an interesting take. Um. But still um. But one of

640
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: the great moments of purity and nobility that he displayed

641
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: on the show was when he didn't say anything on

642
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: the telephone when he called her from Venice Beach, right

643
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: say anything. It was like, I'm here. Uh, the world

644
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: society has erased me. I'm here. I love you, but

645
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: I can't love you and I can't be in your life.

646
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was one of the pure moments his

647
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: character has had, right, true truly seeing what he was.

648
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: It was a true, beautiful moment of introspection. I can't

649
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: wait to hear your thoughts on the end of this episode. Yeah,

650
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: it was, it was, It was. It was just's most

651
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: honest moment. Yeah, you mean, the silent phone call. And

652
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: he because he knows what he brings to the table

653
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: and he knows that he can't be that guy for her. Um,

654
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: And it's it was It was really tragic, it really was,

655
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: but it was beautiful for his character. It was it

656
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: was he really went deep on that one. I go

657
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: to is leaving though, his go to move because he

658
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: left when the car crashed, he left, then he leaves

659
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: on the bus, and then now he's leaving again. It's

660
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: like his go to when well, he left like three

661
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: times this episode, like Rory cap seeing Jess and like runaway, runaway,

662
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: run away, and on the last scene see that, Roy's like, no,

663
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: this is my town. I gave not you. Um. Yeah,

664
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: And I know he's been left essentially, his dad left him,

665
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: his mom gave him away. So so he knows it

666
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: from past behavior. When the going gets tough, you just

667
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: tall ass you give up. That's really interesting, right, that's

668
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: like the learned. That's what he's learned to leave. And

669
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: so he quits life, he quits people, he quits on himself.

670
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: He knows how to quit. He is he is the

671
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: definition of a quitter. And it's tragic because he's so

672
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: he's so appealing in so many ways, and he's so smart,

673
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: and he's so you know, he's that guy that needs

674
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: somebody that's not related to him to come into his

675
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: life and inspire him to stop quitting, you know, somebody,

676
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: because there's there's such a well of talent there. You

677
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: just know it, you just feel it that Jess can

678
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: do will do extraordinary things. That's really true. It's a

679
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: non relative like he needs like the boss with the

680
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: coach or the whoever. It's it's just a it's a

681
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: random person. It's a you know, maybe he hands up

682
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: in city college somewhere and there's a professor and who

683
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: sees the potential in, you know, and one thing leads

684
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: to another and next thing, you know, he's you know,

685
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: he's creating headlines. So I see him as as having

686
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: that depth of talent because he's so smart. Hey there,

687
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,480
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Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts. So let's talk about to me,

704
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: what is one of the most important scenes in this episode.

705
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: There's probably a couple the interaction between lord lyon Liz.

706
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: So lor La comes up to the truck, she thinks

707
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: it's Luke. It's not Luke, and oh, you're the you're

708
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: the wife. I'm not I'm actually not the wife. And

709
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: she says, huh, you look like his type. There was

710
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: a few little subliminal things in there that I was like,

711
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: oh wow, and then she says oh. And in that

712
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: same convertation, in that same conversation, Laura like like calls

713
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: Luke maybe one of the own Yes, right, there's two

714
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: things in that. Those are the two things that are

715
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: so important, And then you really get the inside of

716
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: Liz where she says, I'm a pain in his ass,

717
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: and Loria says, aren't we all? You know? I screw up,

718
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: he fixes it. I screw up, he fixes it. I'm

719
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: out of money. He gives me money. I need a

720
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: place to stay. He finds me a place to stay.

721
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: And then she even acknowledges like I should have sent

722
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: just to him sooner, sooner, she says, my hero so

723
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: to me like that scene, and now she wants to

724
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: move back. But it's just such an important scene. And

725
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: then you're right, she says, he's one of the only

726
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: good ones. And then she says, by friend and customer,

727
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: not wife like it just was like I know, like

728
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: she knows, she knows, of course she knows. She gives

729
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: the ear rings and says, oh, you could give this

730
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: to your wife or lower Lie. I know, it's so good,

731
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: it's so good. What did you think? And then what

732
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: does he do? Right? That Nicole is such a waste

733
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: of her breath. So Scott, because you're really seeing that scene,

734
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: because you're not in that scene, even though it's all

735
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: about you for the first time, So as Scott, who

736
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: is a k a luke like were you like, oh, whoa,

737
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: what did you think that is interesting? It's character of

738
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: development for Luke with in the in this scene that

739
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: such a groople to say it, you know, I think

740
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: it shows Laura being concerned for Luke and his emotional

741
00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: well being after being ripped apart by Jess. Overall, I

742
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: don't think that that's happened yet, that scene happened overall

743
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: over specific about it, um And then now here's the mother,

744
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: here's the person who created the Jess. I mean, which

745
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: is worse? Right? So I think it's it's it's gloralized

746
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: showing a level of concern for Luke's well being. It's like,

747
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to this person. Uh. She doesn't

748
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: trust Liz as much as she doesn't trust Jets. So

749
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: that was an interview and it was like to get

750
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: us a feel, to get a sense that she initiated it.

751
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: She thought it was Luke and ran up um. But

752
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of distance between those two,

753
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: and it's like, I don't trust you, Liz. You are

754
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: the creator of Jess, so you're worse than Jess. I

755
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: did not even think of that. And Liz is there,

756
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: you know, Liz is sitting there you know, Lottie don

757
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: things are going to be great, isn't it wonderful? She

758
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: doesn't understand there's she's so unaware of the effect she's

759
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: had over the years. She's so unaware that nobody trusts her.

760
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: There's not a single person that trusts her. Her son

761
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: doesn't trust her, her brother doesn't trust her. And now

762
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: obviously Laurel I doesn't trust her, and she's not worthy?

763
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: Is she worthy? So how far down you know, the

764
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: scale of on human existence is she where she's this

765
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: very likable personality that's very jovial, happy, positive, cool, you know,

766
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: hippie devil may care personality. Um, And she's she's not stupid, um,

767
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: and she's got a new fella and things are maybe

768
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: turning around for her, you know, And she's just completely

769
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: unaware that she is unacceptable and that what needs to

770
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: happen is for her to have you know, her come

771
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: to Jesus moment and clean up her act and realized

772
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: that she owes people a ton of apologies all over

773
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: the place, so they'll work on herself instead of trying

774
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: to have another guy come in the scene who has

775
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: the nerve to stand there and call me and you know,

776
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: throw an expert it at me because I'm a concerned brother.

777
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, f hm, well right, but there's

778
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've been in that situation. I've talked

779
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: to guys like that that were with my sister and

780
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: then she just had a long line here I go,

781
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go. I'm sorry, I'm gonna sorry, I'm

782
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: not gonna go there. But it's but it's you know,

783
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: what the Palladinos are giving us is the light, cleaned

784
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: up version of horrible things, and and they're making it digestible,

785
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 1: they're making it palatable. Yeah, well, you brought up something

786
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: sous of it. How do you take something that dark

787
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: and that destructive and make it entertaining and funny? Well,

788
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: because you make those characters likable. But here's my question.

789
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Is it a good idea to do that to a

790
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: character like Liz, who is you know, she's an addict

791
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: and she's screwed up her son and she you know, right,

792
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: is there something Scott, You're bringing up something so fascinating.

793
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: Civic duty on the part of creators not to to

794
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: rehabilitate these awful characters in this way? I don't know,

795
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: because here's what I'm thinking about now that you pointed

796
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: out two things I really want to ask you about.

797
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: Number One, You're right, So why are the sugarcoating something?

798
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: I like Liz? Right? I like Liz, and I have

799
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: literally forgotten that she gave her kid away, Like I'm

800
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: just like giving her a hale pass for that, Like

801
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: she literally abandoned her child, which is really really bad,

802
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: really bad, Yes it is, and I have completely given

803
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: her a pass. So I thought that's such an interesting point,

804
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: Like she is so likable, and I'm like, why is

805
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: he vam so tough on her? But it's like she

806
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: gave up her kid to him? And I do think

807
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: we are glossing over that. So here's the other side

808
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: of it. You know, you as the person you are,

809
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: me the person I am, Daniel. Okay, we haven't had

810
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: a just a different experience through life. We we handle

811
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: things in a different way. When we get in trouble

812
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: to get out of whatever, we have a willpower. There's

813
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: a willpower certain people don't have that. Liz is a

814
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: person who doesn't have that. So do you accept that

815
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: as a justifiable argument excuse this behavior and to continue

816
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: to forgive and to continue to hope to continue to

817
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: engage yourself in that person's life. I did until you

818
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: brought it up, until you've said it to me this way,

819
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: which is making me think. And I think the other

820
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: thing is and I know you don't want to necessarily

821
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: go there, but because you have such personal experience with

822
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: something like that, you're seeing it so clearly almost where

823
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: You're like, Luke is not happy, and he is right

824
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: to feel that way. Where I'm kind of like Lottie

825
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: Dottie Dog. Liz is school. She makes everything, she's funny,

826
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: she's she's cute, and it's like, you're right, I've completely

827
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: ignored the fact she gave up her kid, and also

828
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: that she's letting her kid just go off. She Luke

829
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: is the one giving the money. Luke is the one

830
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: checking on the car, and Jess Liz is like not

831
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: even caring that Jesse is off going. We don't even

832
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: know where the hell he's going. Yeah, because even in

833
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: her recovered state, right like she you know, let's say

834
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: she is an addict, Like she's doing well right now,

835
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: so it seems, but she still doesn't have the capacity

836
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: to look after her child, who's in the same city

837
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: as her and clearly, Daniel, that's so right. And then Scott,

838
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: I thought you said something so interesting. You said a

839
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: lie goes up and loyal lies being loyal Lie. She's

840
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: so cute and bubbly and sweet, but she's interviewing Liz. Now,

841
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: I thought Liz past that interview because I thought the

842
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: takeaway from that scene was LORELEI had a better understanding

843
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: of Liz. And my gut was when she walked away

844
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: from the truck she liked Liz. Yeah, but I thought,

845
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: you're right, Like it wasn't so obvious, but like, yeah,

846
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: she should be questioning Liz. Liz is the mother who

847
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: abandoned this hoodlum who has literally devastated her daughter. She

848
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: was actually quite kind to Liz. She could have come

849
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: in hot and been like, what is up with you?

850
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: You sent this kid here who broke my daughter's heart. Yeah,

851
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't know that you want to

852
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: engage your personality like that right off the first meeting

853
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: in that way? Well, right, right, right, obviously right, I

854
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: think becoming feisty, right, yeah, you'd be you'd be a

855
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: little more cautious and not that she would be justified,

856
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: but um, you know that could bend Luke's mind around

857
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: and then he'd open up a cannab will pass on

858
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: Laurela so to speak, you know what I mean? Like,

859
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: why are you talking? Because that has that happened before?

860
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: Remember their big fight backlash, right, so maybe it should have.

861
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but listen, Lizz's entire adult life has

862
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: been a cry for help. That's what addicts do. Everything

863
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: they do is a cry for help. Whether and somebody

864
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: answers them or not, it's irrelevant because they don't change.

865
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: Some do they get the right treatment, right, But all

866
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: Liz is doing, she's coming back. It's a cry for help,

867
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: new guy, cry for help. She's everybody in her life.

868
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: How she treats Jess now and that scene in Luke's apartment,

869
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: Oh we're all together. This is a magical configuration. It's

870
00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: all come together. Nobody was feeling it, okay, except for

871
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: maybe teaching t J a little bit right, and and

872
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 1: she's very entitled, comes into the diner, takes the stakes,

873
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: takes the pie, which you're kind of like, oh, that's

874
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: you're you know, but that is sort of rude. And

875
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: I didn't get that when when I watched it, I

876
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: was like oh, let her have the stakes, like let

877
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: the pie stopping a d word, Luke. The behavior behavior

878
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: of addicts that personality is it's unpredictable, bizarre. You know

879
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: you would you wouldn't. You wouldn't believe it. You wouldn't

880
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: believe the kind of behavior and the kind of situations

881
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: and how inappropriate behavior. It's just right, disconnect. We have

882
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: really forgiven her. I really did, Danniel. I don't know

883
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: about you, but I did not think of any of

884
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: this when I watched it. I just gave her the

885
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: hall pass. Let her of the pie. He's making the chili.

886
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: This is so great. You're not supposed to You're not.

887
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: It's because everybody who's is probably screaming at their car

888
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: radios right now or their iPhone saying, Scott, it's just

889
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: a TV show. Let us enjoy it. Yes, I agree,

890
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: there's that. So there's that it's just a TV show.

891
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: And that's another point of view. It's entertainment. Both can

892
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: be right, both can be right, because Danielle, what were

893
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: you going to say? I was gonna say, um, what

894
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: I didn't catch through this is like there is that

895
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: scene where Luke is like really like he obviously is

896
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: not processing Jess or Liz like in a in a

897
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: way that makes them comfortable, you know what I mean,

898
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 1: So like there is I don't know, it's yeah, it's

899
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: just a clue that there's like definitely turmoil within Luke

900
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: during this, you know, during just and Lisban. Right, I'm

901
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: wondering if Amy and Dan I wanted both to be

902
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: true Scott, they want you to take it just how

903
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: you're taking it, and also take it as it's a

904
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 1: TV show, enjoy it because they're giving us both. Why

905
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: would they give us that intense scene of like just

906
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: saying I don't like any of the guys, but she's

907
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: gonna do what she's gonna do, and you have to

908
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: fix everybody. You always have to be the good guy,

909
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: like focus on your own life and leave everyone alone.

910
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: Like that was so heavy and dramatic that it's not

911
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: just a TV show. Well when people, I mean, I

912
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: think the reason that Amy and Dan did that is

913
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: because when you're watching, you relate to one or the other,

914
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: you know, like you can be like, oh, I have

915
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: somebody in my life as constantly trying to meddle in

916
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: that I don't want to, or you know, like on

917
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: the flip side, like I am the person that fixes things.

918
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: Why can't they, you know, appreciate it, Like it's like

919
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: getting I don't know, like every person that's watching is

920
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: taking something differently away from it. Well, I'll tell you

921
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: everybody's feeling something. And I think that's the job. They

922
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: see it. It's like, how do we make the audience feel?

923
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: How does this how? And and boy, they made me feel, well,

924
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: that's why they're making everybody feel. They're making babies feeling

925
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: a seven year old kids feel. Yeah, that's exactly my

926
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: point because like the character of Liz does not like really,

927
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: when I'm watching her, I take it at face value.

928
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: I don't make hearings, you know, everything exactly. But Scott

929
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: has a different reaction to that. And then like another

930
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: example is Lane. For me, I relate so much to Lane,

931
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: but you guys, don't you know. It's like it's different

932
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: characters mean things with different almost astounding me right now.

933
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: And why I like this podcast so much is Scott

934
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 1: I'm I'm now I'm trying to see this episode through

935
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: your eyes, right, and you're right, Like Luke is right,

936
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson is right, like I was watching it. It's

937
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: just a TV show. I'm enjoying it, but you're right,

938
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: like this was messy, Like why am I just forgiving

939
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: Liz where I did? And I like her and I

940
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: like t J. And I'm like, like, we can talk

941
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: about that ending scene where Luke is being such a

942
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: cool guy to t J. So cool, and TJ just

943
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: like you're a dick, and it's like that was gnarly,

944
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: But huh, I get why he's saying that, because he

945
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: loves Liz and so he sees everybody's seeing things through

946
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: different lenses. Both are true. I think Luke deserved that.

947
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: Um he was being a d to t J. He was.

948
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: He just dismissed him right away, right. He doesn't understand

949
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: that there's been you know, there's been twenty t js, yes,

950
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: and they've all treated her badly, and they've Peter and

951
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: they've all put her in the hospital and it's all bad.

952
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: And he's just like, not gonna give this guy a chance,

953
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: but you know, and then he's doing it. He is

954
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: giving him a chance, like Luke always does with Liz,

955
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: gives her another chance, just the way. It's just the

956
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: way he came around at the end and said, you know,

957
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: you know what. I He kind of deserved that shock.

958
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: He's like, you should was thinking. But I also thought

959
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 1: it was so sweet. It was sweet. It was it's

960
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: like every time this guy gets vulnerable, he gets slammed. Yeah,

961
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: because then that's so true. Like if I were Luke,

962
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh yeah, and thank god Lorala walked up.

963
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: What so obviously he was going to give her the

964
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: earrings first of all. If I was Nicole, I'd be like,

965
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: we need to be done because you do not like me,

966
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: you do not want to sleep in my house, and

967
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: you're giving Laurea Lae ear rings. Nicole is not around

968
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: to see those things. She doesn't know the ear rings.

969
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: She doesn't know that he's going over to fix the

970
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: window like that. Nicole is busy reading legal briefs. And

971
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about the drunkie bloody hand scene

972
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: and the tenderness and there's no blood, where's the blood there?

973
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: Scott's hand was covered in blood, and Loria gets a

974
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: bandon and goes like, there's just blood everywhere and just

975
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:42,479
Speaker 1: a little band aid. She I did think the scene

976
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: between the two of them, though, I literally wrote they're married.

977
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: They're married because she's like, yeah, I want to tell

978
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: me about it. I want to tell me what happened.

979
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: Like it's just like and then Lorala and Jes that confrontation.

980
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we have to go, but like

981
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: that confrontation was amazed. We haven't even talked about Jason

982
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: and Lora, Lee and Jason and his father. Awkward, let's

983
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: talk about And there was some funny part. No, no no,

984
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, let's talk about that, because I

985
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: really want to talk about the Jesse scene, just like

986
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: I love you with the very last scene, go for it,

987
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: just do it? Now do that one. How do you

988
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: guys feel about it? Like, I want to know how

989
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: you guys felt about just saying I love you. He

990
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: loves her? You know, he he ran away from her

991
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: what two or three times? And he just you can't

992
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: run away from your heart. Man, I think, what else

993
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: is he gonna say it's totally true? What else is

994
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: he gonna say it's the truth. Yeah, it made me

995
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: tear up ashore, But it was also one of those

996
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: things I think Rory has been wanting to hear that

997
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: for so long, and she kind of gave, you know,

998
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: she kind of told him he loved her. In her

999
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: own weird way when that phone call seene, but for

1000
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: this time, like he was just like I love you

1001
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: and just like so blatantly told her. I don't know.

1002
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: It just made me feel some kind of way, and

1003
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: it's like, oh yeah, this guy, this guy is so

1004
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: like like turmoil, like if like for me, I'm like,

1005
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: just why aren't you staying just stay and make out

1006
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: with her and like you know, hang out with her

1007
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: and say sorry, like he's not doing that like for

1008
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: somebody you love so much, why aren't you, Well, why

1009
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: do you trying? Mean that he said I love you?

1010
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: Like he said I love you and drove away. That's

1011
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: not helping her with closure, Like that's just going to

1012
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: make her love him more. It's like I love that

1013
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: he said that. But I'm also like, then why aren't

1014
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: you trying to make it work? And why aren't you

1015
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: trying to get your act together? And you know, like

1016
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: if you think Rory is so much better than you,

1017
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: then like why aren't you putting in the work to

1018
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: make yourself better to feel like you can Because because

1019
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: he's not in a stable he doesn't have a home,

1020
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: he's not in a stable place where he can work

1021
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: on himself really. You know, he's got to get he's

1022
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: got to get an apartment, he's got to get a job,

1023
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: he's got to get back into I mean that's going

1024
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: to take a bit, right. He's not in no state

1025
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: where he can work on himself at this moment. You know.

1026
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: It's just it's listen, I think Rory is really fighting

1027
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: and moralize helping her fight this urge to save Jess.

1028
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: It's like, don't do this. It'll ruin your life. There's

1029
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: no guarante. You might have some bliss for a year,

1030
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: and then it could all turn bad because you look

1031
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: at his history, and she's fighting that and Rory knows

1032
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: that that is the path to take. It's just that

1033
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 1: she loves the God. She knows that these two could be,

1034
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, legendary. She could have a legendary love with

1035
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: this kid. You know, it could be wonderful. How long

1036
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: will it last? Though, That's the problem. It's just so

1037
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,479
Speaker 1: much heart right now. She's worked so hard all these

1038
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: years to get to Yale and she's doing so well,

1039
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: and here's this kid, you know, and boy, these are

1040
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: the big life decisions that people have to make when

1041
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: they're very young and they're very difficult to do, and

1042
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: she's really struggling with it. I don't envy her position

1043
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: right now because she feels that kid and they're meant

1044
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: to be together and they could be great together, and

1045
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: you can just see it and feel it and want

1046
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: it to happen. But man, it could just blow up

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01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: her life in ways she'll never be able to recover

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01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: from Scott talk about talk about traumatic tension because her

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: life can go two ways. Like think of the say

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01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: she runs after him and off she goes. That changes

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01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: the whole course of her life. But if she's deals

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: with this heartache and goes back to Yale and does Yale,

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01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: her life goes a totally different way. Logan anyway, and

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01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: how is she going to feel? She never gives this

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01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: a chance? Right, And ten fifteen years down the road,

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Speaker 1: she's married, she's got a couple of kids, she's got

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01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: a nice job in journalism, and she's kind of ho

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01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: hum suburban life and she's not she loves her husband,

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01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: but it ain't Jess, you know what I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: only right, right, So there's all kinds of decisions to

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Speaker 1: make right, Yeah, every you have, you you know, let's

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Speaker 1: throw it back on YouTube ladies, Has there been a

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Speaker 1: Jess in your life when you were young? That's such

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01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: a good question, Thank you very much. I've had like

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Speaker 1: fifty Jesse's and thank god I didn't thank god I

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01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: didn't end up with any of them, because Jesse's can

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Speaker 1: be bad. Although the problem is I know a year

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Speaker 1: in the life, so it's like Jess isn't bad, but

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01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: she should have ended up with Jess. That's probably would

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01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: have been the great move for her, but at the

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01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: time like Jesse's are bad. Yeah, Danielle, is your husband

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Speaker 1: a Jess, a Logan or a Dean? You don't know Logan.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Logan. I can't answer that. Claude Cannon

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Speaker 1: your husband, I didn't answer. Jogin? Is that a thing's?

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Speaker 1: A Jogin? Would be a Jogin would be the ultimate.

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Speaker 1: He's a gene. Actually, how do you say all three?

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Speaker 1: Because if you could all three? Yeah, if you could

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Speaker 1: mine all three? Uh, Dean Jodan from the background, mss

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01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: Msscott Patterson just crushed the podcast and she nailed it again. Three.

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Speaker 1: We're literally tell her she's just now become iconic and

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01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: we're going to use that constantly. That is so perfect

1082
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 1: because a Joe Gadin is the ultimate dude. Oh my god,

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01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: we have to start using that when we do Rapid

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Speaker 1: Fire with guests. Oh my god, Wait, do you have

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01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: favorite lines? I mean, I just loved the whole episode,

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01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: so it's like, I don't know my favorite line minds

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01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: from Emily in the beginning, she goes, Richard, I need

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Speaker 1: a gimlet. That actually was so good and I just

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01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: gotta squeeze this in. But honorable clown Pillow mentioned oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even see it, but obviously came in hot

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01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the not the wife is probably

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Speaker 1: I'm not the wife. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna. I don't

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01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: usually want to usually recuse myself on favorite lines for Luke,

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01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: but I think he delivered the coup de gras on

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01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: this one when he said to Jess towards the end

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01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: of that scene, that was so revealing um and referencing uh,

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01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: referring to t J as he's a grown man with

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Speaker 1: an I just catch. Oh yeah, that was a line. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know whether we do one to ten

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Speaker 1: kirkwalkie talkies or one to ten band aids, or I

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01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: was gonna say one to ten AMC Ambassador Cars. Which

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Speaker 1: one do you guys want to do? You want to

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: do one to tend bloody hands? Ye want to bloody hands?

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01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: What he said something? What did he say about his hand?

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01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: I got a handful of Barbie? Well? Yeah? Does that mean? Sorry?

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01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 1: It was probably really obvious and I just, you know,

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: I heard there was there was a couple of lines.

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01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's hand? You want to do? Bloody hands?

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01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: Pop tarts? We had pop tarts? They were Barbie band aids. Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Jackie, they were Barbie band aids. I get

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01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: a handful of Barbie band I was saying, like barbed wire,

1112
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: look like Barbie like one to ten Kirkwalkie Talkies. No, okay,

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01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: stop you pick, you pick. I'm sorry, I want to

1114
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: do I want to do List's earrings. No, no, I

1115
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: want to do one to ten um Ambassador cars. Okay,

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01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: Ambassador cars? Okay, what the AMC Ambassadors? Okay you go?

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Speaker 1: Oh you'll go last, Daniel, Do you want to go first? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Nine point five? Nine? Ten? Wow. I just it's how

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Speaker 1: many episodes in a row that have been perfection. I

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Speaker 1: just think season four is showing not only is it

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Speaker 1: a ten Rush Joe Gadine for life, for life. That's

1122
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: what we should have done. Okay, So what's next week?

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Speaker 1: Season four, episode fourteen, The Incredible more than halfway through

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01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: season four, Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. Well that's

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Speaker 1: gonna rapid, folks. Uh yeah, welcome to the mountains. Are calling,

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01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: the goats are yolding and I gotta get up there.

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01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: I just gotta get up there. Well, I gotta strap

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Speaker 1: on the skis and just get up that hill and

1129
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: then get down that hill and you can ski because

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Speaker 1: later this week you've got interviews and pop culture. So

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Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you everybody, thanks of downloading. Best fans

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Speaker 1: on the planet. Um, have a great I hope all

1133
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: your dreams come true. And uh, I love y'all. And

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Speaker 1: uh and that's it. We'll see you next time. Be safe,

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Speaker 1: hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at

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