WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Big Matchups vs. KC 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:09.400 This he is talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:18.159 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys as play No. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:23.599 Your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us Taylor Stern and 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:29.760 Rob Phillips. Hello everyone, and welcome into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.960 Of course, I'm Taylor Stern, joined by Brian Rob Mickey 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:37.080 here on a Thursday at the Star in Frisco. We're 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:39.800 all very excited to get back to at and T 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.360 Stadium this weekend as the Cowboys take on the Kansas 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.160 City Chiefs in what's expected to be a great game. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:53.280 You hope, yes, possibly, sons, Zeke, So, how's everyone doing today? Wait? 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.280 Let me ask you this son, Zeke without yeah, I 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.800 know without that that I did pay a had No. No, No, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.800 he's a big word. But I think it's s A 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.040 N s right, Thank you very much. I might use 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.720 that one day, am I scouting report? Oh? Yeah, we 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.800 are we out of home runs? Here? We're out of 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:15.560 home runs? Still stroking? Oh god, what Mickey? Just give 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:17.800 us a Zeke update? What he said home run? You 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.840 mean home runs by second circuit stuff? Yes? Are we 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.640 are we out of home runs? No? There they because 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.520 another one they asked for, another one asked for two? 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.880 Actually are they? But you're not gonna be able to 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.720 hear this until after the game, right, they're asking for 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.640 an emergency stay, so they ask just good pushing the 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.360 court the way we're pushing. They asked for the other 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.039 deal yesterday, which probably won't get hurt un till next week. Sure, 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:46.040 but they're telling them the the harm of waiting in 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.400 case they rule in their favor as he misses a 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.440 game and he can't make that up. Right, So they're 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:55.600 hoping to hear possibly by Friday, if they'll give him 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.240 at least the stay until they render a decision on 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.240 the appeal for the injunction. And the league is saying no. 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.280 And the league is saying, there's no need to do 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.320 this because everything's fair and there's a precedent that you know, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.760 you're not supposed to poke your nose in this business. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.200 Could the league also argue that they, hey, we gave 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.360 you the Giants game. They haven't brought that up because 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.880 that would be bad because then it would they would 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.280 be admitting that, well, we were okay with him playing 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.440 a game. Good point, got a decision. Good point. That 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.880 would not be in their favor. What happens with his 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.560 check money? Of course they get paid on Tuesday. He 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.080 was not here on Tuesday. Well he still he gets 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.840 paid for the Washington game on Tuesday. Okay, so that 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.960 it's interest. Yeah he wasn't Yeah, yeah, the six games 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.040 is without paying. Next next Tuesday will be his well 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.480 with his Kansas City check. When did the when did 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:50.800 the the suspension didn't come down until Wednesday, I would 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.600 sit or Tuesday night. I mean, now it was Wednesday. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.760 It was twenty four hours from the ruling. Right, let's 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.440 just go have lunch with the payroll folks and they'll 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.320 tell us it was Wednesday. So if he was on 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.919 the roster, buy three o'clock on Tuesday, right, gets paid 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:08.480 for this week? Right? Is it for this week? This game? Yes? Yes, week? 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.840 This way? Yeah, okay, this week, this game, even if 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.600 you don't play, like if you get released on Wednesday, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.800 if you were on the roster Tuesday, you get paid 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.639 for this week. Not bad, only seventeen of those though, yeah, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.320 only seventeen. You got to manage a lot of money 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.840 in those seventeen for a lot of for some guys. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.280 but we're for seeing that most likely as it stands. Now, 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.840 how what's your percentage that it's a hail mary. It's 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.360 a hail mary like the one in the hallway, Roger, No, 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.280 I think it's deeper than that. Is it deeper than 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:42.480 every seventy yards? Not fifty? Where's no blocking? Yeah? Where's 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.720 the second circuit located New York, New York? Then yeah, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.320 you don't think they're gonna hurry up and say, hey, 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.680 we're coming in and see if we can do this. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:55.360 Odds are long and the Jets game tonight. Sorry, and 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.880 Judge Catherine she I mean, maybe she's out of it, 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:02.840 I know, but but her ruling applies in terms of weight, 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.280 and she took her time and you have that thick packet. 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.160 She didn't take her time. Well, had that written or 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:13.280 they even argument finish, finish. It was very emphatic, right, 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.720 Nicky's on every point it ruled in the NFL. YEA, 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.600 I saw somebody, this is the words you want to use. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.080 It was a clean sweep for sweep NFL. There you go. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.960 So if so, you know, if that carries weight with 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.120 the second circuit, then yes, the odds are long. But 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:30.880 it didn't. It didn't carry any weight with Judge Crotty. Yeah, 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.600 it's the luck of the draw. Yeah, it depends on 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:38.600 who you get how they interpret it. And she understood 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.520 nothing about the NFL, nothing but the labor. It was 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.560 just labor. She understood, She understands labor, but she didn't 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.599 understand irreparable harm. Right, she didn't understand that you don't 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.440 get these games back. That yeah, you may get paid, 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.400 you don't get them back, and that you know, all 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.600 of this I'm not playing, you know, it has to 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.880 do with you know, I can't say you're gonna do 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.000 a good job and it's going to hurt your future 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.680 because that depends on the rest of your offensive guys 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.160 and the defense you're playing. Seriously, but Tay brings up 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.279 money and it extends beyond the field, right, It's it's 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.560 perception in the public eye. And how does she tire 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.880 about that? How does that apply to endorsements and things 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.400 like that. She ruled on the article we were talking about, 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.919 That's what she ruled on forty six. So you know, 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.520 I saw, I saw this brought up, and I hadn't 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.920 thought of it this way, you know, because the nfl 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.560 PA has been arguing that they should have been able 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:37.360 to confront the accused user in the arbitration and they said, no, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.279 you know, we don't have to do that, right. Well, 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.400 I started thinking about that common law and it's like, 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.960 but it was pointed out that she was very willing 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:51.000 to talk to the NFL investigator. Yeah, and they didn't 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.920 have to force her to come in, right. So my 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:59.000 I'm I'm come to the conclusion that because the investigator 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.640 after talking to her said not very credible, the last 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.640 thing the NFL wants is her to be cross examined. Yep. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.320 That could have killed their case because isn't that basically 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:13.880 what the DA and Columbus came to. Yeah, we're not 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.160 putting here on trial, this this whole thing. I just 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.280 don't know how you punish somebody when they haven't been 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.520 charged with it. Yeah, I don't. That's that's what I 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.559 don't get. You know, if you're going to be judge 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.400 and jury, make sure that the really the highest court 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:27.800 in the well, not the highest court in Land, but 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.880 the United States Court if he may still get there 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.880 by the Yeah, if they've if you've been charged, if 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.479 you've been charged with a crime. Yeah, But you know, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.440 we're all we're all under that too, if you look 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.560 at it, mean we're all under really the same guidelines 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.960 of players. Oh no, by working it, you know, so 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.400 if we do something wrong and all of a sudden, 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:44.920 you know we we want to and we have our 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.479 day in court. Like with Jordan Lewis, you know, you 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.920 go out, you clear your name that way, but you 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.960 know that the ruling is I just find it. It's 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.200 it's amazing to me that he wasn't charged with a crime. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.520 Don't you feel like there's gonna be a lockout once 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.160 this thing's up because the union, the union is gonna 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.600 want twenty twenty get ready? Yeah you race, yeah, some language, 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.560 if the players are smart. Yeah, well but the problem 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.920 is that this is the case right here that shows 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.240 this is something's got to change. They're dealing with billionaires, billionaires, 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.760 But will the players that are going through this now, 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.360 players that are playing in right twenty one right see 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.600 that's the kids that are playing in twenty twenty one 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.760 are in high school right now. You are dealing with billionaires. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.840 Yes you're not. The players aren't billionaires. Some players are 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.520 Lebron James and people like that they're billionaires. But you 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.200 mean you're it's it's hard for a guy making four 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.480 hundred and ninety five thousand dollars. I know this sounds 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.760 crazy to sit there and say, okay, let's throw this 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:43.840 all away. Let me throw this away so we can 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.520 get labor, we can get our way here. But we 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.440 just watched the Great World Series game last night. The 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.120 Baseball Union is the most powerful in sports. Sure it is. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.720 I mean it does vary by sport. It does. Some 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.600 unions more powerful than it does. And and and that's 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.600 the that's the problem that the owners can stomach this. Yeah, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.840 the owners can, you know why, because they'll lay us off. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.200 There'll be no talking cowboys or no break or whatever. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.760 They'll just lay us off. There's still there's still billionaires. 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.440 The players. We'll see if the players have the gut, 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.880 the gut, I mean the stomach to sit there and say, yeah, sure, 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.960 we'll strike. There's guys that can handle a strike. A 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.920 quarterback making twelve fifteen million dollars a year can strike. 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.680 A guy on the bottom of the roster might not 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.320 be able to strike, you know that, and that might 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.840 be very hard for him. You know, the players that 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:33.920 there's in this league, there's a lot of hals and 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.440 have nots. That's what this has all been created by. 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.520 But the owners are billionaires. They've got the gut to 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.200 be able to fight this. Yeah. So sort of like 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.400 when I was in college. Huh you mean I was working. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.600 I was working in a factory and the commer to 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.200 make money for college. Yea. And these guys decided to 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:54.280 go on strike. No, I gotta warre you a union, 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:56.400 union had to join. Yeah, you had to go get 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.319 a card. I've done the same thing, mickey. I mean 0:08:58.360 --> 0:08:59.800 I had to go get a union card to go 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.480 do with a summer job for LSU. Yeah, and so 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.560 I all I was doing was sweeping floors. But I 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.400 needed the money because I was trying to go back 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.040 to school and these guys were These guys are like, oh, 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.480 we're on strikee strip already start drinking beer at midnight. Yeah, 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.559 but there's some other story about a confrontation you had 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.839 with somebody. We'll talk about that all. He had a 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:21.400 confrontation with somebody. Shocking, amazing. No, but the people were 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.160 driving by because we had to sit we had with 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.280 the signs are strike death and some people are driving by, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.200 honking and rolling their windows on. Hey, your lazy bumbs 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.040 go to work. It's kind of what we say every 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.679 day to you in your tube. They say here, you know, 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.200 I especially said Mick, He's right. In twenty twenty, this 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.240 thing is gonna be We'll see who has the stomach 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.120 to do it. It's gonna get ugly. It's gonna get ugly. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.640 But really, is it just because of this judicial court. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.720 It's got to be part of it. Yeah, it's gotta 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.080 be another part of it. We'll see what happens. Was 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.760 they appease the players by saying, Okay, we're not gonna 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.120 make you practice as much. Yeah, not gonna make We're 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:58.640 not gonna beat you up safety, but here's what we want. Yeah, 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.320 and it's like, oh yeah, fine, because it's not going 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.360 to affect me because I'm going to do everything right. Yeah. Well, 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.760 the minute you do something wrong, it affects you. This 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.040 one's this is going to be the number one point though, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.480 Commissioner Power and who knows if Roger Goodell will Steven 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:15.400 be in powers? Yeah well no, maybe even this year. 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.319 Oh yeah yeah yeah, Condolisa Rice, I hope you get 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.360 a shot at the Commissioner Beck. Yes, guys, why are 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.360 you guys not believing in me and Mick. We're gonna 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:27.040 be a team. Oh, co commission, Agnola, co commission. It 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:32.960 does sound like a law firm Magnola's happening. So it's 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.480 just hurtful. Will be the underdogs, Mickey, it's fine, yea, 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.600 all right, Well, we do have to get into the 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.760 guys that are playing. You got a game this week, right, you, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.360 We really do, and it seems like it's going to 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.079 be here before you know it. But good news on 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.440 some different things. Of course, everyone freaked out when they 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.920 saw des and Tank on the practice report yesterday, but 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.920 coach Garrett appeased to everyone today and he said not 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:59.000 to worry. They were just limited with minor injuries. Days 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:04.040 with the knee and Kyle Wilbert r. DeMarcus with the calf. Yeah, 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.720 something he talked about that. Lawrence was kind of dealing 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.800 with that throughout. He was barking fine when I left 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.160 the locker room talking with him going down the hallwood. 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.120 So it wasn't like he was dreaming or dragging or like, hey, 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.240 I got a good treatment, Mickey. Yeah, those things going 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.400 to get food. He was going to get food, food, eat, yeah, Tank, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:24.040 and then and then does thing you know, he's had, 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.320 he gets he gets banged up. We've seen how he 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.840 plays violent play. You know, he probably in the screen 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.319 pasted it, got called back from holding banging around guys 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.840 and stuff like that. So yeah, as as long as 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.040 as long as they're okay to practice, that's the thing. 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.440 And the good news though, Tan, I think you're going 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.240 to get to his Cole Beasley p Yeah. Yeah. Cole 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.680 Beasley of course did not practice yesterday under that's good protocol, 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.840 but coach Garrett said he would be practicing today back 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.560 in the will see what happens to him. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.840 if he passed. But the fact that he practices today 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.120 I think is a great sign. And the team. Yeah, 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.600 and the regarding does team's not worried about him. Yeah, 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.440 he missed a few reps, but it should be good. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.679 Tyron Smith practice, just get used to every Wednesday. Him 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.720 not doing anything just yeah, I mean he's dealing with 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.040 a back injury that he's come. No one asked about 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.880 Dan Bailey because I think that we're not going to 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.439 see any We're just assuming that he's out. Steven Jones 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:15.319 said last week, Yeah, like four or more weeks. Get 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.520 you have Fried Turkey Mickey when he gets back. Yeah, 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.800 that's yeah. Oh yeah, because of the short week, he's 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.720 going to miss two games. Sure if he's not ready 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.840 for Philadelphia, right, dude, go nuge all the way. Yeah, 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.640 and Cheetah was interesting because yesterday coach gard said that 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.640 he would be limited, but he was DNP So the 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.480 Great One called it for another week. The great One 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:43.320 is right, Mickey is the great one, Mickey Spagnola, the 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.720 great One. Let's take a big Barnes plaque from upstairs 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.800 and get the Great Gazoo, the great Gazoo, of course. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.040 Carl Wilburg. You guys know what kazoos are, yes, yes, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:59.720 the little checking Yeah, what was that kazoo? How over? 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.680 He was good to go on Sunday. He was full yesterday, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.560 so we're okay there. Now. On the opposite side, d Ford, 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:07.760 someone that you probably saw a lot of dis and 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:11.760 LSU football games. I did played for Alabama Auburn. Auburn. 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.240 That's right. You're in the state. You're in the state. 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:18.000 You're good. I was at his national championship that he lost. Yes, yes, 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:23.560 now is back DMP which not sad about that because 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.000 he was very strong on Monday night. Yeah, he's a 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.520 He's a rush guy. That's his This thing you we 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.120 talk about Mickey, was it thin butt guys? Is that what? 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.240 He's skinny but guys skinny but guy get around the corner. 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.800 You know, he's Uh, he's one of those players too 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.199 when you when you look at with Justin Houston, Uh, 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.679 you know that kind of rush. They they brought back 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.760 Tumbaholly to practice. I saw Tambaholly's practice. I don't know 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.080 if he'll play this week, which we'll see, but yeah, 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.080 Heuston and I are he was he was a pup 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.960 is what he was? A pup guy. Yeah, yeah, he 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.480 has not played yet. So d Ford though, yeah, that's 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.760 with the back. I will venture to say that Dfour 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.440 plays in this football game. Yeah. I think they're probably 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.560 trying to rust him much like what we see. But 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.920 he is a he's an edge rusher. He's a quick 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:12.640 edge rusher. He's one of those guys that he'll get 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.120 a sack and then you won't see him for like 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:18.040 eight plays. Yeah, that's kind of a player he is. Yeah. So, 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.760 but you know, they really don't have that many guys 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.240 on their practice report truly. You know, they've been fairly 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.600 healthy and of course, maybe you're right. The other day 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.760 Travis Kelsey did look like he was limping out sint 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.640 quarter but finished just fine. Yeah, I don't think you 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.840 have to worry man. Defensive lineman shouldn't have double last names. 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:41.400 Were you looking at Dwarveney, Laurent Devernay, Tariff Tardiff. Yeah, 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.480 it's a great name, a regal sert. He's like ard. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.520 You know what though, the problems that they have is 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.560 their offense has masked a lot of their defensive problems. Yeah, 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.360 you know, defensively they've they've been like a high takeaway defense, 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.760 very active in recent years. Run defense has been an 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.680 issue for him. It has been you think, you know, Matt, 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:03.960 you said mass that's a good word. Five takeaways the 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.320 other night, but they allowed one hundred and seventy seven 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.200 rushing yards. Yeah, so they ran thirty. Yeah with that personnel, 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.880 that's what I'm saying. They have really struggled. They have. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:14.600 You know, they're one of the teams too that you 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.720 look at they give up their lasting league and give 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.000 them up first downs. I mean, teams have found the 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:20.640 way to move the ball in them that teams have 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.840 made big plays. The pass rush. We talk about Houston 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.760 the matchup with Lyle Collins. How big will that be? 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.360 You know? I think the Cowboys can move the football. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.760 Can you get it's gonna come down? Can you get 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.640 some stops? Right? Can you make Alex Smith hold the 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.480 football and get stops? You're probably not gonna get turnovers. 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.040 They're not going to give you a turnover, but can 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.040 you get them off the field on third down? Can 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.920 you not get a roughing the passer penalty? Can you 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.200 not get a defensive holding penalty? Can you not get 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.960 something that when you do get off the field that 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.800 you don't get thrown back on the field. Yeah? So, 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.280 and then they're tough. They're tough. And I asked Jason 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.280 Garrett this question today about it about having to you know, 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.840 prep for so much, you know, with what they do, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.280 you know offensively, he says, Hey, there's some real things 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.600 you have to deal with. You know, there's there's a 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.000 lot of ghosts, but the ghosts are real. And so, 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.360 you know, defensively, can they do enough that that's really 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.280 where this game is gonna because I feel like Dallas 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.440 can move the ball on him, I really really even 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.560 you know, running the football, if the offensive line plays 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.360 like we've seen for a quarter in two games. If 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.040 we still get the hat on hat running tough, if 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.200 you get Rod Smith going, if you get Morris going. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.240 I think those are two primary guys. But you need 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.320 you're gonna need that. You're gonna need to keep You're 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.880 going to keep your quarterback from having to throw a ton. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:41.840 But even if he has to throw in this game, 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.480 I feel like he can make some plays. I really 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:46.360 really do. Yeah. It kind of reminds me of the 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.280 Green Bay game a little bit. The matchup in terms 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:52.040 of defensively. I think the Cowboys offensively, they felt like 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.640 they can move the ball score points against green Bay's defense, 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.240 and they did. But there there was the Rogers factor 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.120 and a guy that doesn't turn it over much. And 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.560 it's not just out Smith, I mean it is. They 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:05.000 have an amazing array of weapons, Yes, and I think 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:08.399 they to your point, they have three turnovers this entire season, 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.359 which is pretty much unheard of. Yeah. Just don't drop 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.560 a ball for an interception that's returned for a touchdown. Yeah. 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.080 But this is a good stopping point because I have 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.919 some interesting news. When Keith Smith was on our show 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.280 cover four yesterday, he dropped some knowledge on us so 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.280 we can get to that after we take our first 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:30.080 break here in the SWPC mortgage studio. 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