Speaker 1: Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
Speaker 1: and the Black Effect Network.
Speaker 2: So we're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion
Speaker 2: to talk.
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Speaker 1: Talked Back. The show dedicated to you dreamers and chasers, y'all.
Speaker 1: This is your co host, A J. Holiday.
Speaker 2: What's up, tam damn Hey, y'all, it's a physical tamvam.
Speaker 2: I love y'all. I love you to aj hore you do.
Speaker 1: I'm wonderful, Okay, I'm wide awake.
Speaker 2: Bit tired, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm tired. I have a crazy ass weekend, but I
Speaker 1: do feel a little bit tired, Auntie, like I went
Speaker 1: out just to jump right into our weekends. I did
Speaker 1: go out on Friday night. That was about it for
Speaker 1: my weekend. I hung out and did some live karaoke.
Speaker 1: Is wherever I go? I need a mic? And it
Speaker 1: wasn't karaoke night and no shit like that.
Speaker 2: I thought you was gonna say wherever I go, I'd
Speaker 2: be a hoe.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought you was gonna say that. But go ahead, finish.
Speaker 1: That's your mantra, bitch, don't do it. Mantra. No wherever
Speaker 1: I go at, I gotta fight figure out where the
Speaker 1: mic at. So I always ask for the mic. And
Speaker 1: as soon as I get the mic, and not everybody
Speaker 1: want the mic, do y'all own things. You know, I
Speaker 1: just like to be heard.
Speaker 2: So my weekend, I'm sorry to cut you off. I
Speaker 2: went to the strip club again. It's like Charlotteage opened
Speaker 2: up the strip club floodgates for me, and now I
Speaker 2: just been in the strip club again. I went to
Speaker 2: Onyx and the hell I thought it, I know, I
Speaker 2: didn't even know they were still open me either. I
Speaker 2: thought it was somebody's birthday. But turn out Nigga was
Speaker 2: about to turn itself in, so we.
Speaker 1: Throwing up money instead of paying canteen or saving up
Speaker 1: for I don't know, trial or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I ain't know him, so it wasn't
Speaker 2: my It was my crossings, fucking.
Speaker 1: Them people money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, two for you, two for me,
Speaker 2: two for you, two for me.
Speaker 1: Don't you ration in a strip affair? Oh, I'm telling
Speaker 1: whoever the fuck Tammy was out with this past weekend.
Speaker 1: She got all y'all fucking ones. I smelled booty juice
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: It never made it to nobody. Booty, you never made.
Speaker 1: It, but that money was on. Well, No, they do
Speaker 1: be coming out with some Chris ones. I'm always scared,
Speaker 1: like they throwing fake money in the strip club. Man,
Speaker 1: Like y'all just be getting all these Chris stacks of
Speaker 1: ones Usher books.
Speaker 2: You remember Usher was throwing all them Usher books that
Speaker 2: value to absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: I always be like, like if a nigga just threw
Speaker 1: a whole stack out of bitch like, would she be mad?
Speaker 1: Like if you stripping and somebody just throw a whole
Speaker 1: block of money at you, could you get mad?
Speaker 2: Or you just be like, I'm happy somebody thought a
Speaker 2: whole block of money at my head right now.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be okay with it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep hitting me with a block of money every day.
Speaker 2: I'll take your cushion. Yeah, concuss me with money.
Speaker 1: He got ct E from getting stripper ones thrown at you.
Speaker 2: I used to be such a bitch you in my
Speaker 2: twenties when I used to go to the strip club.
Speaker 2: I remember like it was the stripper. Ain't like I
Speaker 2: used to ball up the ones.
Speaker 1: Trying to get beat up. You know, the stripper is
Speaker 1: a jump your eyes.
Speaker 2: I know, I almost got beat up in there one time.
Speaker 1: All right, Pete l Royce Laris strip club.
Speaker 2: It was it wasn't even l Royce, it was what
Speaker 2: was that one that was off for Forest Drive? Oh liquids?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was way back with I remember liquids.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: They used to be so lit back in the day.
Speaker 1: They just kilty the life. I think niggas was just
Speaker 1: nakking too much money down there, Like Columbia used to
Speaker 1: be like the hub for all entertainment. Like people used
Speaker 1: to be driving up from everywhere just to go to
Speaker 1: the strip clubs and.
Speaker 2: Cumbia, right, and now it's just did not There was
Speaker 2: a restaurant in Columbia. Somebody was getting their booty eight
Speaker 2: in the restaurant and it was a video going around
Speaker 2: of someone getting They asked a in the restaurant.
Speaker 1: Girl. It was a bistro here a club and our
Speaker 1: bar and bistro and this guy who was allegedly actually
Speaker 1: a gay guy. I don't know how you ended up
Speaker 1: slipping and eating Kouchi on film Like this is recent,
Speaker 1: so what is going on with? People were just really
Speaker 1: living in Babylon, y'all. Because look, let's just go ahead
Speaker 1: and get the stupid internet NWDS. Right, So why is
Speaker 1: there a guy in Atlanta who they actually found him?
Speaker 1: So the video I sat earlier today, it was just
Speaker 1: like the victims teak and she's a doctor. I forgot what,
Speaker 1: maybe a psychologist or something like that. But anyway, she
Speaker 1: was at Whole Foods in Shanley Tucker Tucker in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and she says she was bending over it and on
Speaker 1: an aisle at a Whole Foods. She said she saw
Speaker 1: the guy kind of pretending like he was shopping, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, when she bent over to
Speaker 1: get some shoot off the show, she felt like something
Speaker 1: warm and wet hit her back, so she reached her
Speaker 1: arm behind her and then she saw the Oui guey
Speaker 1: in her hand, bodily fluids. This man had ejaculated on
Speaker 1: her back and Whole food.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine somebody skeating on your back that you
Speaker 2: didn't ask to do it? That just this disgusting. These
Speaker 2: men are violation of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she you know, she she chased him out
Speaker 1: the story, yelling and screaming, trying to bring as much
Speaker 1: attention to what was going on so she can have
Speaker 1: enough witness. Like a lot of people witnessing what had happened,
Speaker 1: and he drove off in a Kia.
Speaker 2: Or for focused and some shit, it hadn't been a Kia.
Speaker 2: It sounded like some Kia activity right now.
Speaker 1: Erica Blackman Troy Troy Cal State C A L L
Speaker 1: I S T E. Twenty eight has been taken into custody.
Speaker 1: He was arrested in Gwenett County in charge with sexual
Speaker 1: battery and publican decencies and now he's currently been booked
Speaker 1: at the Decal County Jail. There he belonged because exactly,
Speaker 1: and it can't be your first time doing somehit like that.
Speaker 1: The weird thing is, y'all Okay, do y'all remember a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago there was a guy in North Carolina?
Speaker 1: Do you remember Tam. This guy in North Carolina got
Speaker 1: arrested for putting his face in the Leader somebody book.
Speaker 1: Yeah target, Yeah, compeatedly doing it too. So when when
Speaker 1: this news story with the Whole Foods and Georgia came out,
Speaker 1: I started to look for the other story. It's a
Speaker 1: piece of shit together. This is a fucking epidemic with
Speaker 1: these men. I couldn't even find the recent story because
Speaker 1: there are stories years after years, If y'all google man
Speaker 1: puts his face in woman's butt, Google that and see
Speaker 1: how many men have been arrested from all over the
Speaker 1: country for doing this shit done.
Speaker 2: It's like they do weird.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: Imagine you bending over to get a box of brown
Speaker 2: sugar and you feel somebody knows in your ass, I'm
Speaker 2: a squeeze. They nose with my bus cheeks. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: just let you know now, I'm a farne on you.
Speaker 2: That's and that's what they deserve, right in their face
Speaker 2: because they probably have that.
Speaker 1: They probably want to be like, oh you are real one,
Speaker 1: I let your number right? What's your number?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: This is disgusting, that's weird. What is wrong with men?
Speaker 1: What is wrong?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: You remember and do you remember a couple like last year,
Speaker 1: so me and my best friend was out and somebody
Speaker 1: recorded her using as this is also in Atlanta, a
Speaker 1: guy was recording her over top uh using a restroom
Speaker 1: and a quick trip.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, she didn't.
Speaker 1: Get video, like she didn't get news.
Speaker 2: Broadcasts happens to you know other people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all you know, everybody's all ears. Everybody want
Speaker 1: to know what happened, and they find the the person
Speaker 1: the corporate really fast.
Speaker 2: That's insane. Those in the booty bandit just nasty.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be honest. They all look like they
Speaker 1: don't get pussy, all of them.
Speaker 2: They can't possibly because they.
Speaker 1: All look like in cels. These are the guys that
Speaker 1: are being mean to you in the comments on social media. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: be careful, ladies, carry a carry a pack with you
Speaker 1: just in case. Ice Spice.
Speaker 2: Put your coat and your shoes in the basket right now.
Speaker 2: Touch your laptops off your part face ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ice Spice got a new song, give us, uh,
Speaker 1: give me some, give me the What is it?
Speaker 2: Give me some give me give me a light?
Speaker 1: Ah, it says Ice Spot. Give Ice Spice some light
Speaker 1: is what this article says. Anyway, she got a new
Speaker 1: song out sampling Sean Sean pauls Yeah, two thousand and two.
Speaker 1: Uh hit give me the Light. Her song is give
Speaker 1: Me a Light, and I mean it starts off cool.
Speaker 1: She's working with her little beige booty in the back
Speaker 1: of a car, smoking the Spliffy, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, she starts yelling.
Speaker 2: Yelling like tsa Atlanta Harshweld Jackson airport, bitch, you got
Speaker 2: future their this. If this rapper shit don't work out,
Speaker 2: you definitely have a future for TSA. She can can
Speaker 2: do the.
Speaker 1: Clear line, yes, because what is happening? And I feel
Speaker 1: like I felt the same as everybody else and apparently
Speaker 1: you did too. Right when something happens on social media,
Speaker 1: I immediately go to the commons. Right, everybody had the
Speaker 1: same sentiment, like, girl, why are you yelling at me?
Speaker 2: Why are you screaming at me?
Speaker 1: I'm sicking. I'm sticking to rap man, I'm gonna stick
Speaker 1: to ron. I might start working out the R and
Speaker 1: B girl, because my brain cells, I feel like I
Speaker 1: lose some every time a new song come out.
Speaker 2: I listen to High Maintenance on Apple Music, that playlist
Speaker 2: and it's all female rap, and the women doesn't turn
Speaker 2: into men, like all the songs sound like men with
Speaker 2: female voices. Girl, Yeah, they talk like dudes. Now.
Speaker 1: It's very It's all a trauma response. There's no feminine
Speaker 1: energy in the music, no more none. They like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play these dudes before they play me. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get them before they get me. I'm just gonna get
Speaker 1: this money and get on through like that's the attitude
Speaker 1: with everybody, and a lot of them. All these bitches stole
Speaker 1: in love because for some reason, in the midst of
Speaker 1: being so hard, y'all always end up pregnant. Pregnant, right, see,
Speaker 1: y'all be in lovey dove somewhere.
Speaker 2: Some how, okay, Right, even though you're not rapping about it,
Speaker 2: you're making babies, so you're doing something.
Speaker 1: But we know who ain't doing nothing? WHOOPI Goldberg?
Speaker 4: Y'all?
Speaker 2: Why Goldberg is doing so Whopy Goldberg is actually doing
Speaker 2: a whole lot of shit witho by Goldberg said, listen,
Speaker 2: she lightheaded and quitted.
Speaker 1: She is not trying to get married ever again. So
Speaker 1: during a recent interview on the I'd be calling him
Speaker 1: Don Don Lemon because that's how Fox News was getting
Speaker 1: on his ass one year but Don Lemon the Don
Speaker 1: Lemon Show, the sixty eight year old actress and host
Speaker 1: of the view explain why she doesn't prefer traditional relationships.
Speaker 1: She said, I am fundamentally a selfish person, and I've
Speaker 1: been excuse me, and I found that because I have
Speaker 1: a wonderful a wonderful kid, and a son in law
Speaker 1: and three grandkids and one great grand that I don't
Speaker 1: have time for the for a whole lot of people
Speaker 1: coming into my life, she shared, hit and runs are great,
Speaker 1: and I don't mind those, but you can't spend the.
Speaker 2: Night damn whooping, damn whoopy.
Speaker 1: Whooping these niggas and getting them up out the house. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't blame her or why not you
Speaker 1: sixty eight sixty eight?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't bad kids, you know.
Speaker 1: So she got one kid, She has one child, but
Speaker 1: she got a.
Speaker 2: Kid and the grandkid and great grand She got a
Speaker 2: whole house full of descendants, so she ain't worried about,
Speaker 2: you know, child bearing. Now, it's just like I don't
Speaker 2: need companionship because I have family. I guess I don't
Speaker 2: aspire to be like that though. I always want a
Speaker 2: man who I want to sew his dick, even at
Speaker 2: sixty eight.
Speaker 1: Listen, she says, uh, well, bitch, wait, run that back again.
Speaker 2: What you said? You heard me?
Speaker 1: She said, you have a whole line of words that
Speaker 1: are stacked up in your head about what you are.
Speaker 1: If you say a hit and run is where you
Speaker 1: want to be and you don't want to be married,
Speaker 1: she explained. The view hosts continued by explaining that after
Speaker 1: years of reasoning with herself why she would settle down
Speaker 1: with someone, she's surprised that she doesn't want to. She
Speaker 1: has been married in divorce three times. She said, what
Speaker 1: I didn't realize was that I figured it out. She said,
Speaker 1: I just was surprised by the fact that I didn't
Speaker 1: really want it. But I like the hit and run.
Speaker 1: I like to hit and run. Actually, okay, so she's
Speaker 1: doing a hitting and running.
Speaker 2: What's her sign?
Speaker 1: Oh, let's look that up. You know I like that
Speaker 1: type of shit. Let's see what the hell is why
Speaker 1: white people was born? I bet you just bit you
Speaker 1: this whole Gemini.
Speaker 2: Gemini, Gemini energy. Let's worry aries, Let's see, let's see.
Speaker 1: No, she ain't a Gemini, and don't think she's a Gemini.
Speaker 2: Libra faces girl.
Speaker 1: This is a scorpio. This is.
Speaker 3: No way.
Speaker 1: Yes, she's a scorpio.
Speaker 2: Makes sense that birthday.
Speaker 1: That makes a whole lot of sense. Whooping scorpios is terrible.
Speaker 1: They're away from me. I'd be attracting scorpios dog like
Speaker 1: the men and women like. I got some scorpio female
Speaker 1: friends that I can't shake. And the men is like
Speaker 1: anytime a dude hollers at me, he's a scorpio. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: Deuce is my nigga.
Speaker 2: I don't want no more of that either.
Speaker 1: I can't do nothing with you, y'all. This past weekend
Speaker 1: was Mother's Day. We failed to really uh to mention
Speaker 1: that during our weekend. But yeah, but we want to
Speaker 1: give a shout out to Anita Baker for Mother's Day
Speaker 1: because she ruined it for a lot of mothers. Okay,
Speaker 1: she was supposed to have a concert in Atlanta. She
Speaker 1: canceled a few minutes before. You got bitches on the
Speaker 1: Martin pissed.
Speaker 2: Nina Beker is seven sixty seven, you know, almost eighty
Speaker 2: years old. That lady had the gout.
Speaker 1: She has.
Speaker 2: She ate a pork loin on Friday that her daughter
Speaker 2: made for her and she could not make it.
Speaker 1: Y'all.
Speaker 2: Can't be holding that lady. She oh older, because I
Speaker 2: don't want her to come cuss me out. You know,
Speaker 2: she'll cuss people out. She's older, and she might have
Speaker 2: had the gout, y'all, she's a human being.
Speaker 1: Don't be playing with these divas not to mention. Also,
Speaker 1: these people like their product is their voices, and sometimes
Speaker 1: it don't always work, especially when you've been singing your
Speaker 1: whole life. But that is something she needs to take
Speaker 1: into consideration and possibly go ahead and retire. Baby, Okay,
Speaker 1: because you had your residency in Nevada in Vegas and
Speaker 1: you kept going and you still having concerts and started
Speaker 1: yelling at some people taking pictures to you a couple
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Like bront wrote, let it go them, tickets
Speaker 1: costs a lot, girl, I might come up there and
Speaker 1: sing this song with you for the money I paid
Speaker 1: for this.
Speaker 2: Ticket, And they're gonna knock your ass right up that stage.
Speaker 1: Gonna keep playing, and they gonna be throwing shit at
Speaker 1: her next show.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're playing with black women at this point, right, Okay.
Speaker 2: Your peers, Yeah, listen, y'all. We gotta give a big
Speaker 2: shout out to our family from Black Effects. Taylor Happy birthday.
Speaker 2: We love you girl. Nice tea. Yeah, y'all go to
Speaker 2: her page and wish her a happy birthday. It's at
Speaker 2: fun size Tea. It's still there, right, No, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's Taylor Made Now and her birthday is today, y'all,
Speaker 1: So go, what's your happy birthday.
Speaker 2: At Taylor Made It?
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
Speaker 2: So y'all go, what'sh your happy birthday? We love you
Speaker 2: a little bit, eh.
Speaker 1: All right, so y'all we're gonna get into our main
Speaker 1: topic for this week. We talking pimps. Y'all know, I
Speaker 1: always be trying to figure out the psychology and some
Speaker 1: shit like white people be doing certain things.
Speaker 2: We're talking pimp shit and some whole shit real quick,
Speaker 2: so y'all stay tuned. We'll be right back. And we
Speaker 2: got a guess who's gonna be on that pimp shit
Speaker 2: with us. What's up, y'all?
Speaker 1: We are back, and we do have a special guest
Speaker 1: when we talked back this week. This is my homeboy
Speaker 1: t Resy from the Bay. Introduce yourself time.
Speaker 3: What's up, everybody?
Speaker 4: That's your boy t Reason from Richmond, California, by the way,
Speaker 4: the Bay Area.
Speaker 3: Y'all know what it is, No.
Speaker 2: We don't.
Speaker 4: Well, you better find out. You go find out, that's
Speaker 4: for sure. You're gonna figure it out before it's over with.
Speaker 2: You've been getting high fee to uh not like us.
Speaker 2: I feel like everybody from Cali.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, I love it. Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1: That's the summer banger.
Speaker 4: That's most definitely the banger that you know that most
Speaker 4: definitely woke, woke the country over we own so absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like Drake is not like us? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, saying no, you know, I mean the man dude
Speaker 4: got a black father, you know, but you know, he
Speaker 4: grew up in the Jewish household, so you know, I
Speaker 4: don't really think he grew up around us. But you know,
Speaker 4: you know, ship a lot of black people eat off
Speaker 4: of them, So you know, it's all it's all how
Speaker 4: you want to how you want to view it, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So so me and is due.
Speaker 1: We debate about a lot of shit. We don't even
Speaker 1: talk that often. When we do talk, it'd be like
Speaker 1: hours worth of all things that's going on in the world,
Speaker 1: from hip hop to how niggas ain't shit, to how
Speaker 1: black people could do better, to you know, to now,
Speaker 1: like we just had a conversation recently about the Drake
Speaker 1: and Kendrick Lamar situation because he sent me post Girl.
Speaker 1: I'm about to say, post Malone, what the fuck glasses?
Speaker 1: He sent me glasses Moon the space. Yeah, he sent
Speaker 1: me the Twitter space he had open talking about the battle,
Speaker 1: and you know, we didn't really get to actually have
Speaker 1: a conversation about we was texting about it. But that's
Speaker 1: my sentiments to you know, black is the culture. It's
Speaker 1: not a nation of people. So if Drake at some
Speaker 1: point identify with the black community, you are we to
Speaker 1: say he's not black, right, But then you start doing
Speaker 1: ship that's anti black, okay, like calling us slaves and ship. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I got a problem with.
Speaker 2: What's he calling us slaves? Or what's he calling you
Speaker 2: know that?
Speaker 4: You know what the worst thing he probably did to
Speaker 4: me he got a picture with the black face, and
Speaker 4: I don't know what.
Speaker 2: That was, like, what made you do that?
Speaker 1: Or who?
Speaker 3: You know, why did you think that was okay?
Speaker 1: Or who?
Speaker 4: Okay it is you're stealing all somebody, I mean somebody
Speaker 4: had to be you know.
Speaker 2: Can a black person do black face?
Speaker 3: Unfortunately?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if I'm put on black face right now,
Speaker 2: would why the fun would you be doing that black
Speaker 2: paint on my face? Yes? What if I just got
Speaker 2: on a black mask.
Speaker 1: Like you know, with the red lips and the white
Speaker 1: and all that. Come on, Tammy, stop playing devils. Everything
Speaker 1: is not for I was a fucking advocate, okay, very clear.
Speaker 1: Listen and Charleston, they have this restaurant I won't say
Speaker 1: the name of it. But they have Sunday Brunch.
Speaker 2: They called it.
Speaker 1: They call it First Service or First Sunday Brunch or whatever.
Speaker 1: But they have the Plantation singers, old black women who
Speaker 1: come in. You come to brunch and they singing Negro
Speaker 1: hymns and church stuff in there, and it's mostly white
Speaker 1: people in there. It's just yes, and they call a
Speaker 1: plantation choir. I mean, I just don't want that. I
Speaker 1: don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to lose those Those people
Speaker 2: who sing on the plantation were powerful. Yeah, so you
Speaker 2: have to It's all about how you view it, because
Speaker 2: I don't view it as a scar. I view it
Speaker 2: as these powerful women who chose to sing in despite
Speaker 2: of their situation, they still found a reason to sing.
Speaker 1: So we have to celebrate, right. That's then we can't
Speaker 1: forget money. No, yes we can, we don't have We
Speaker 1: can teach the past. We don't need to live there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I don't even think nothing should ever be plantation. That
Speaker 4: word shouldnt even be mentioned. They need to just get
Speaker 4: rid of the word and make it disappear. Because just
Speaker 4: when I ride plast places in the South and they
Speaker 4: still got ship called plantations.
Speaker 3: That just makes me like, what the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because my family is Middleton in South Carolina and Charleston, right,
Speaker 1: there's Middleton Plantation. That's our family land that we no
Speaker 1: longer own. You know what I'm saying. You would just
Speaker 1: think that this was just some white people shit middle
Speaker 1: Ten Plantation. But that ain't what we're here to talk
Speaker 1: about today, y'all know we're not.
Speaker 2: We get all exact opposite.
Speaker 1: Listen, we want to talk about the psychology of pimping.
Speaker 1: We go away from black shit to the psychology of pimping.
Speaker 1: Because I always want to know, like, what are the
Speaker 1: girls that like get trains ran on them? Young ages?
Speaker 2: Every wanting to know like what.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm just saying I want to know the
Speaker 1: psychology of that, and I want to know the psychology
Speaker 1: of pimp And I feel like they are both aligned,
Speaker 1: right because let a group of dudes run run you
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I know aligned.
Speaker 2: I know some very powerful women who like trains. They
Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah I do, I do they do
Speaker 2: them for free? Yeah, it's not for free, it's for entertainment.
Speaker 2: And enjoyment. When they go on vacation, they get away
Speaker 2: from the monotony of their lives. That are very powerful lives,
Speaker 2: you know, successful black women to Jamaica.
Speaker 3: What is pimping to you? When you think pimping, what
Speaker 3: do you think?
Speaker 2: I think pimping is when you're getting finessed by someone.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, it's.
Speaker 1: Like the ultimate dumb bitch story, the ultimate Listen.
Speaker 4: I think when you walk in the car a lot
Speaker 4: and they hike up that interest rate, that's pimping to me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all him. You have a.
Speaker 1: Government, everybody so and we don't got no choice.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, you know, I think that's where you
Speaker 4: gotta turn your pimping up and you gotta make sure
Speaker 4: you ain't getting finessed by nobody.
Speaker 3: You understand. That's that you You You gotta fight pimping
Speaker 3: with pimping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you fight the pimp, like the US government,
Speaker 1: you end up in prison.
Speaker 2: We're behind enemy lives.
Speaker 3: Listen, Look like I say, don't break the law. Just
Speaker 3: been the rules, right.
Speaker 1: I like great area ship, y'all know. I always be like,
Speaker 1: let me get a mortgage frouby. I like them type
Speaker 1: of niggas some smart smart you can figure out how
Speaker 1: the financial whole church.
Speaker 3: Pastor is most definitely.
Speaker 2: Okay, y'all listen, it's leading his flo on salvation.
Speaker 1: I know, I got a whole article and it is
Speaker 1: like for this episode, so not about religion, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on. It is the link between God of the
Speaker 1: Bible and the pimp game. That's an article I wanted
Speaker 1: to touch on a few parts of because people definitely
Speaker 1: be pimping from the pulpit. It is a real thing.
Speaker 1: A lot of people who probably used to be pimps,
Speaker 1: right they they get into this because it's the same
Speaker 1: concept essentially. You know what I'm saying. You get into
Speaker 1: the minds of the people and you like a little
Speaker 1: puppet master. Now you could be like a psychotic pimp,
Speaker 1: the ones that be beating up, beating their holes up
Speaker 1: and ship like that. But then you have the more
Speaker 1: psychologically advanced ministers could very well be pimping everybody in
Speaker 1: the church.
Speaker 2: And then you have the ministers that are leading their
Speaker 2: flock to salvation and their their goal is to care
Speaker 2: for their food.
Speaker 1: But you got to put money in this plate to
Speaker 1: get to the heaven.
Speaker 4: Collection, don't have to, but they don't put money.
Speaker 2: And nobody holds forces you to get nobody holds, nobody
Speaker 2: holds a gun to your head. It makes you give.
Speaker 2: Your philanthropy is your choice in the church.
Speaker 4: That's why they said that what they want, what they
Speaker 4: want ten percent. That's a little too high.
Speaker 3: That's a time said the Bible.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely wrote that.
Speaker 4: Old ass what they say. It's the oldest perfection. So
Speaker 4: you know, who's to say that that wasn't writing that
Speaker 4: in the Bible.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, So y'all, I mean, I don't think pimping is nice.
Speaker 1: It's like pimping like a big thing down south. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's more of like a Midwest West Coast thing.
Speaker 1: Like over here, people kind of manage their own vaginas.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I wanted to have somebody on
Speaker 1: to talk about it that could actually maybe relate to pimping,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I can't because imagine me selling couchie.
Speaker 1: I gotta get it.
Speaker 2: They're giving your money to someone else is insane. I
Speaker 2: remember one time, and I was probably like nineteen or two.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think I was old enough. I came
Speaker 2: to Charlotte to go. It was like, see, I double
Speaker 2: a weekend and I came to Charlotte and I was
Speaker 2: at a party and I was looking real fine. This
Speaker 2: is before you could buy ass, so mine was just
Speaker 2: like spectacul one, right yeah. And this pimp like everybody
Speaker 2: kept calling him like what's up pimping and talking to
Speaker 2: and he dressed like he was dressed like yeah, like
Speaker 2: a pimp with a silk shirt, you know that kind
Speaker 2: of And he kept following me around the club and
Speaker 2: saying shit.
Speaker 1: He said, Ryan, sweat you, but I'm gonna sweat you.
Speaker 1: Tell a get you, yeah, like.
Speaker 2: Saying rhyme and shit to me. And I was like
Speaker 2: literally running from this man around the club because I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna sell it and give my money away. Please
Speaker 2: leave me alone, sir.
Speaker 3: Right right?
Speaker 4: I mean nowadays, like I guess the holes they don't
Speaker 4: need pimps no more.
Speaker 1: Or why would a whole ever need a pimp?
Speaker 4: Like what is I think that's the only man compatible
Speaker 4: with a prostitute, right, every woman need companionship, So who
Speaker 4: what other type of man is gonna be cool with
Speaker 4: a woman going out?
Speaker 3: A pimp? That's it?
Speaker 4: Like a regular dude going to work every day ain't
Speaker 4: gonna be cool with his chick doing that.
Speaker 1: So they get bitches out the strip club all the time,
Speaker 1: and then they try to make them stop stripping because
Speaker 1: he's not cool with that. Keep wipe up the strippers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like a square. A pimp would never like
Speaker 4: a pimp, and he gonna let her go ahead and
Speaker 4: work and.
Speaker 3: Do what she do.
Speaker 4: So I just feel like the only man that's compatible
Speaker 4: with a woman living that lifestyle is a pimp or
Speaker 4: some mac or some type of player individual. A regular
Speaker 4: deglar dude is not gonna be cool with a female
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: So these guys you think they'd be like in relationships
Speaker 1: with these women or the women think they are in a.
Speaker 4: Certain extent, to a certain extent, I guess to me,
Speaker 4: I feel like it depends on what type of you know,
Speaker 4: pe is. I guess if you like a boyfriend pee,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Though, like a boyfriend pee,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like you you pushing p
Speaker 4: but your girlfriend is a prostitute or a stripper. Like
Speaker 4: I said, you know, it's only one type a man
Speaker 4: that's gonna be cool with a woman living that type
Speaker 4: of lifestyle. And that's gonna be him, So that's who
Speaker 4: is for her.
Speaker 1: So these two people somehow find each other, right, and
Speaker 1: I can understand that.
Speaker 3: They recognize each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can understand that, and like adults, But
Speaker 1: some of these pems they go after just like any men. Okay,
Speaker 1: men are visual, yes, but men can also be very predatorial,
Speaker 1: so they go after the easiest praise. So now that's
Speaker 1: why you like America. One of the biggest, longest running
Speaker 1: industries in America is fucking trafficking. Okay, so now you
Speaker 1: got kids being trafficked by these people, or even grown
Speaker 1: ass women getting snatched up off the streets, Like, what's.
Speaker 4: The I don't think that's the same thing, though, Like
Speaker 4: I feel like human trafficking.
Speaker 3: That's not pimping, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But there's some women who have gotten men arrested, locked
Speaker 1: up when they got caught, right, they end up saying
Speaker 1: that this person moved them from all you gotta have
Speaker 1: moved this bitch from one state to the next, and
Speaker 1: you got some interstate shit going on, right, Yeah, right.
Speaker 2: So pimping is getting a woman too willingly?
Speaker 4: Yeah I would say that absolutely, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, everybody
Speaker 4: in on it, because, like I said, most holes is
Speaker 4: just doing a thing like it's only to me. I
Speaker 4: feel like it's only a small small amount of women
Speaker 4: that actually really got a man. Most of them is
Speaker 4: just moving so long. Yeah, and it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you human trafficking your damn self on only fans and
Speaker 4: Instagram at the end of the day, so you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like you pimping your own ass at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, so that if you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna do it, do it yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like why you need management? Why do I need
Speaker 1: moneymac management?
Speaker 3: I don't think women are that good and managing money.
Speaker 3: I think y'all need help.
Speaker 4: Would say, I'm just saying. I just think that's just
Speaker 4: my personal opinion. I think men manage money better than.
Speaker 2: Women oftentimes, especially our parents and our grandparents. The man
Speaker 2: made the money, and the woman took the check from
Speaker 2: the man, gave him a piece of it, and manage
Speaker 2: the money.
Speaker 1: And right, because why are you being the light that
Speaker 1: on time?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: We could have waited an extra fifteen days on that.
Speaker 1: Like you don't even know that though, Like why are
Speaker 1: you putting no ship on auto pay?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: Responsible?
Speaker 3: We ain't got too many white women out here now here.
Speaker 2: To be honest, there is a lot of I believe that.
Speaker 3: I believe that there's something.
Speaker 1: So why are you interacting one? Why why would you
Speaker 1: make why would you make the say we'd be arguing
Speaker 1: about the same ship. We be arguing by this type
Speaker 1: of ship. I don't even know why you're trying to
Speaker 1: such a conversation up like that, because not really be triggered.
Speaker 1: I am a wonderful woman, and I know a lot
Speaker 1: of other wonderful women, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: Tammy maybe one of them.
Speaker 2: I am. I am one of them very much.
Speaker 1: We checked into the spot to record, and the dude
Speaker 1: at the desk ask like we all acting like we
Speaker 1: don't cook because Tammy says she got her little factor meals.
Speaker 1: I mean, just because you do factor meals, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean she don't know how to cook.
Speaker 2: Swim down. Life is very busy factor So yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: but we know.
Speaker 1: But why we want to boil boil women down to
Speaker 1: just even just cooking, Like can you cook, sir? We
Speaker 1: all hustling, we all here in the trenches together.
Speaker 3: I can do a little something for sure.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of amazing women out here, who
Speaker 1: aren't selling kuchis right.
Speaker 2: And the measure of a woman's contribution isn't just food
Speaker 2: and managing money.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just money.
Speaker 1: Give me the money I think a man should put.
Speaker 4: I think a man should be able to manage, you know,
Speaker 4: supposed to do certain things a little better than a woman.
Speaker 4: It ain't just all about managing money. But you know
Speaker 4: we're not about to sit up here and act like
Speaker 4: y'all won't blow the bag on shoes and purses.
Speaker 3: I don't do that, don't, Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't, Yeah, I don't. I mean, I'll give me
Speaker 2: a bag of person here there, but I ain't gonna listen.
Speaker 2: I shop on the real woman who I resell ship?
Speaker 1: I buy resell ship?
Speaker 2: Also smart right that all they have is bags and money.
Speaker 1: To me, I'd be like, damn, I could have bought
Speaker 1: like a stock with this. I could have bought an
Speaker 1: extra option contract with this. Like that's really how my
Speaker 1: mind thinks I could have saved this. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: like saving money for real, So if I'm not investing
Speaker 1: in it, I feel like you don't make money saving money,
Speaker 1: So you gotta be really don't, right, throw some real wealth?
Speaker 2: Well, you should like both, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: But you know when when when the market crash or
Speaker 1: I don't well, yeah, when you start trying to get
Speaker 1: some gold or silver and some ship. But if some
Speaker 1: ship really happened, like your money sitting in the bank
Speaker 1: or even that paper money and your mattress is going
Speaker 1: to be useless.
Speaker 3: You gotta have got to make money work for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta put that ship somewhere. You can't just
Speaker 4: leave it under in a shoe box or in the bank.
Speaker 1: If everybody started rushing to get their money from the bank,
Speaker 1: then people be like, oh, we ain't got it.
Speaker 2: So tell us about the first you pimped girl.
Speaker 3: I ain't never in my life pimped the girl never, all.
Speaker 2: Right, tell us the story about that time your friend
Speaker 2: pimped a girl that time.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, like coming up in a
Speaker 4: bay like I've always been around, like pimping and hoing,
Speaker 4: like so we just got like you know, you know,
Speaker 4: world renowned host strolls. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: Sant Pablo and East fourteenth, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: if you've been in down streets like that, you gonna
Speaker 4: see you know hol's hanging, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 4: so me coming up in the streets, I was always
Speaker 4: a hustler. One of my friends was a was a
Speaker 4: pee and you know he used always try to like
Speaker 4: give me like girls if he didn't want and shit
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: You do.
Speaker 3: Get tired of them and be like bro, tak her.
Speaker 3: I'll be like bro with like a.
Speaker 1: Real commodity, like a thing they moving around it is,
Speaker 1: that's crazy.
Speaker 4: So you know, yeah, so I mean just coming up
Speaker 4: in the bay, like I always kind of like just
Speaker 4: been around that coach. Sure, you know, I mean I
Speaker 4: know real holes and I know niggas really like you know,
Speaker 4: like pushing p you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so tell me about these real holes. What
Speaker 2: would make them real holes?
Speaker 4: Like oh like like like going cross country getting money,
Speaker 4: you know, like not just sitting in their little town
Speaker 4: and you know, just you know, not just begging for
Speaker 4: cash apps, like really like doing this ship like a business.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, one's own means for production.
Speaker 3: Like this is an escort. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: This is a high level cross country.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's level of the horn. Yeah, if you're asking
Speaker 4: for cash apps, you're not a hole. You understand you're
Speaker 4: begging bum You need to get a life. If you
Speaker 4: listen to baby, you need to stop asking for forty
Speaker 4: fucking dollars. You was in a way stop that. If
Speaker 4: you want to hold you just need to really get
Speaker 4: out there and push that shit in s.
Speaker 3: That's that's not a hole though, she's really a whole. Yeah, marketing, Yeah,
Speaker 3: she's really a hole.
Speaker 2: That's not a hole. She's just asking for money. She's
Speaker 2: just a beggar and she's telling you her price forty dollars.
Speaker 3: But if you just forty anyway.
Speaker 2: What girl is that dollars? A lot of niggas asks
Speaker 2: me for forty.
Speaker 4: Dollars, whole niggas, whole niggas ask for forty two.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, dollars? What you're gonna do with forty dollars? But
Speaker 2: I guess if you ask niggas for forty dollars, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, you got four hundy, I guess.
Speaker 1: So I guess we probably should have looked into like
Speaker 1: the different level different levels of homing, because then you
Speaker 1: do have the escorts, which it's legal to be an escort,
Speaker 1: you know, Utah, you could be a prostitute and do
Speaker 1: not Utah Nevada, right, all that ship legal over legal.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I think that in New York they
Speaker 1: decriminalized prostitution, but it's still like you might get a
Speaker 1: ticket or something. And it really boils down to men
Speaker 1: not being able to taxt pussy. They got pussy MV
Speaker 1: because why is it illegal to sell your vagina? Like
Speaker 1: why I can't do that? Like right now Trump is
Speaker 1: in court because he bought some pussy in two thousand
Speaker 1: and six, dog Like essentially he paid a bitch to
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up, and now he's in court defending that,
Speaker 1: Like why who? How is it determined? Like what's prostitution
Speaker 1: and what isn't you know what I'm saying, because wives
Speaker 1: could be prostitutes for their husband, Like I'm not fucking
Speaker 1: on you unless you buy me a new car this year.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening. Is that not prostitution?
Speaker 3: That's definitely a form of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, most women got a little bit of it in him.
Speaker 4: You had to stay with him saying you have a
Speaker 4: sex turning and then you send him this purse. Baby,
Speaker 4: I like this person, yea, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know what you own? You are to steal with
Speaker 4: them saying you want you want to be compensated for
Speaker 4: that that section.
Speaker 1: Most people have a price, yes, because like we value
Speaker 1: our vaginas and men valudate purse so well. And I
Speaker 1: always say this, especially for the young girls. If you
Speaker 1: out on a date with a dude and he started
Speaker 1: talking about pussy immediately shortly thereafter start talking about money,
Speaker 1: now everybody is uncomfortable, Like that's just how that's supposed
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: But then here's the only problem with that is because
Speaker 2: often some of those guys is like, she, I'm ready
Speaker 2: to pay right now. Now you gotta then.
Speaker 1: What man, you can decide if that's some ship you
Speaker 1: want to get into or not, Like if your rent dude,
Speaker 1: might as well go ahead.
Speaker 2: No, I told you how is bad? That is not
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 1: No reason for you not to have out there, ladies,
Speaker 1: it is to be having sex with a man and
Speaker 1: she has passed you bills. It doesn't make sense to.
Speaker 2: Me, No, don't have sex. But women be out.
Speaker 1: Here having sex with people and they got like real
Speaker 1: life financial issues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, but don't.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense to me. Like you can come
Speaker 1: in there and your light's about to get turned off tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You didn't ask them to put something on them lights?
Speaker 2: Is that tricking? Is that being a whole but on
Speaker 2: like you're asking for help, people men consider that tricking
Speaker 2: if they don't. I get what you're saying. If you're
Speaker 2: gonna do it for free, then get help. But if
Speaker 2: you're gonna if you wasn't gonna do it, and you
Speaker 2: do it just for the money, now you're a prostitutor.
Speaker 2: What I was telling y'all, how right?
Speaker 1: Uh? One of my ex friends, she like literally set
Speaker 1: up a deal like she like this nigga agreed to
Speaker 1: pay a certain amount of money for the Kucci and
Speaker 1: it was a real transaction and she like felt some
Speaker 1: type of way after it, but she really needed the money.
Speaker 1: She would not have had sex with them otherwise. And
Speaker 1: she's not a whole, right, just for that day, just
Speaker 1: for that day, Like the nigga ended up getting murdered
Speaker 1: by a year later, and not nobody knows until I
Speaker 1: say this shit in the podcast, nobody knows who she
Speaker 1: is that sold her gucci once upon a time. But
Speaker 1: I don't see what the problem, Like, why why are
Speaker 1: men trying to police what women do with ava? That's
Speaker 1: really what it balls down to. Like, I don't think
Speaker 1: pimping should be illegal. I don't think howen should be illegal.
Speaker 1: I think pimping should be illegal.
Speaker 3: Right, m just like he just living off of her, That.
Speaker 1: Absolutely because there's some psychological, psychological manipulation going on in
Speaker 1: order for that to happen. I feel like it's nothing
Speaker 1: to break apart, because to break a broken bitch. So
Speaker 1: what you've done is you saw somebody who probably has
Speaker 1: had a history of being abused, who don't have a father,
Speaker 1: and you meet all those maslow hierarchy of needs, and
Speaker 1: now you know which is just the finesse. That's when
Speaker 1: the finest starts and now she's stuck.
Speaker 3: That should be good households, I do.
Speaker 1: I believe some holes come out of good house and
Speaker 1: I believe that. Really listen, this is protudes, Yes I know,
Speaker 1: so I swear to God I came from good home.
Speaker 2: It's this girl singing.
Speaker 1: A gospel choir with y'all. Yes, I used to be
Speaker 1: singing gospel a little bit in the summertime once once
Speaker 1: upon a time, like middle school and high school. And
Speaker 1: this girl I will never forget her, Mama, like had
Speaker 1: us in a group. We was going to churches, church
Speaker 1: and all that shit. I went back home, you know,
Speaker 1: after I got a little bit older. I went back
Speaker 1: to Charleston and this bitch and her homegirl was in
Speaker 1: the club with a pimp.
Speaker 2: But that don't just because she was on a choir
Speaker 2: does not mean she came from a good home.
Speaker 1: Her home wasn't broken. Her mom was like a minister,
Speaker 1: like what that's still don't but would constitute like used.
Speaker 1: So you think maybe she was already being abused or something.
Speaker 2: She could have been some type of psychologic I think.
Speaker 1: Some holes just like to be holes. Like just like
Speaker 1: you said, you got some homegirls who probably have PhDs
Speaker 1: and ship and they like to go to Jamaica to
Speaker 1: get dragged.
Speaker 4: Are like conversation for the right, like even in the
Speaker 4: South and the strip club like a lot of the.
Speaker 3: Strippers really in school. They paying their college tuition.
Speaker 1: I don't consider the strippers holes, really nah, some of
Speaker 1: them do have to. Some of them are.
Speaker 3: Stripping the feel you. I wouldn't say all of them.
Speaker 1: And some of them are like that ship is the
Speaker 1: art man you go to Magic City, the dumb bitches
Speaker 1: be I'm like I told him, I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this's a whole new generation of bitches. There's a whole
Speaker 1: new generation of holes on these poles. These is the
Speaker 1: old strippers daughters in here probably, like how do you
Speaker 1: learn how to do these things? Like up on the
Speaker 1: ceiling all that stuff. It's a real craft. And they
Speaker 1: should be paid for that court. Yes, that court. Yes
Speaker 1: they should be compensated for that ship. Yeah, but but
Speaker 1: in that environment, they got to pay tip out.
Speaker 2: Right, they have to pay tip out. But it also
Speaker 2: has to be like, like how do you go out
Speaker 2: in public spaces and expose your body in that way?
Speaker 2: Like it has to be something psychologically not right.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: We had an episode on shame. They don't have any
Speaker 1: everybody level of shame is different. So for them, like
Speaker 1: being naked, it could be empowering for them. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody got on clothes. I'm here, my body look good,
Speaker 1: I feel good. I'm on drugs like that.
Speaker 2: On drugs, yeah, because some people might need drugs and
Speaker 2: alcohol to get out there and do that. I can't.
Speaker 1: I just can't believe that somebody wants it's like the
Speaker 1: easiest thing for some people. I think it is easy.
Speaker 1: That's the easiest way to get notoriety. It's the easiest
Speaker 1: way to get money, to be naked and put your
Speaker 1: ass on internet sometimes. You know, when I first log
Speaker 1: on the social media and I see a bitch twerking,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, y'all feel whack doing this? You tworking
Speaker 1: and you work at T mobile, bitch, like your ass
Speaker 1: ain't even working for reals, So why you still gotta
Speaker 1: go to.
Speaker 3: Work like sales?
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, bottom line and shit, if
Speaker 4: it make money, people go indulging.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, even in our line of work,
Speaker 1: you know, even in the podcast space, I feel like
Speaker 1: if we got more naked, ship would blow quicker.
Speaker 2: But that's easy.
Speaker 1: Were smart, We some real smart women.
Speaker 2: We can use our brains, right, We got great sisters
Speaker 2: of humor and personality or.
Speaker 1: That shit is easy to put your ass on the
Speaker 1: internet and blow up, Like it's almost I don't know,
Speaker 1: It's like the prisoners is the prisoners is running the prison.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening.
Speaker 2: And also, my daddy's still alive, So is that the
Speaker 2: only reason why it hot?
Speaker 3: Also not the only reason.
Speaker 2: I respect him.
Speaker 1: Too old for that, ship, I'm just I'm too old
Speaker 1: for that. Like, what are we doing. Like maybe if
Speaker 1: I was in my twenties, I would have a little
Speaker 1: bit less shame. But I feel like the older you get,
Speaker 1: like you realize, like, but what are you doing right?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to compete with that type of lifestyle.
Speaker 1: I can't compete with that shit. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I had a friend, so we met in Europe when
Speaker 2: I was living in Europe, and he was in the
Speaker 2: military at the time, and then he got out. He
Speaker 2: went to Vegas with the military and then got out
Speaker 2: in Vegas and he started pimping and he was right,
Speaker 2: it was just.
Speaker 3: The right crowd.
Speaker 2: Hispanic girl. He had an Asian girl, and he was like, tam,
Speaker 2: I just need a black girl.
Speaker 3: I need one.
Speaker 2: And then he was like, come to Vegas. I'll change
Speaker 2: your life all the money you could ever And he's like,
Speaker 2: and you want this is what he said to me.
Speaker 2: I will not make you fuck black men, just Asian
Speaker 2: men from Asia. They won't even be American.
Speaker 1: They'll be overseas, overseas count.
Speaker 2: And he was like, and I promise you, I'll change
Speaker 2: your life. Your whole lifestyle is change. You'll have all
Speaker 2: the money you ever wanted. And I was I was.
Speaker 2: I was like, now, what would make you think? He's like,
Speaker 2: I know how you like money. I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: I love money. I love money, but I ain't.
Speaker 1: But he's telling like he to be getting that bag.
Speaker 2: Okay, they did well, Like I would be watching the
Speaker 2: story like damn, this bitch got her and you would
Speaker 2: never know g wagon. Yeah that's I just could never.
Speaker 2: I could never.
Speaker 1: So basically, he like curates, like the the he puts
Speaker 1: together the business. He facilitates the meetings for her and
Speaker 1: whoever else, or the women and whoever else. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be offenditive if a dude like what about me?
Speaker 2: Make you think that I want to sell my body.
Speaker 1: Ship like that? There's two strikes for you, bitch. Somebody
Speaker 1: I came at you like that. Now, let me look
Speaker 1: at your aura. He might got a whole aura a
Speaker 1: horror y'all know, yo, let me find out you on
Speaker 1: we talked about costs playing a hope.
Speaker 2: I would never have. I just have to look apparently, No.
Speaker 1: You got the whole energy. You just said it A
Speaker 1: horror girls as funny as.
Speaker 3: Hell, a horror Like really, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: Be offended man, because if I'm gonna sell my kouchie,
Speaker 1: like I really don't need no help. And I feel
Speaker 1: like even with those girls, like once they get to
Speaker 1: a certain status, like why y'all can't book your own people?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Everybody, I'm pretty sure your
Speaker 1: DMS is lit.
Speaker 2: Listen, you can't be happy with yourself selling pussy every
Speaker 2: day like you cannot. I just can't imagine how I
Speaker 2: would be. I would not be able to look myself
Speaker 2: in the mirror and like who I saw in the
Speaker 2: mirror if I knew that I was selling my body
Speaker 2: to get money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but a lot of women be just having like
Speaker 1: bitches who wear glasses. Bitches who wear glass like prescription,
Speaker 1: I can't see that's it. Bitches who wear prescription glasses
Speaker 1: be the biggest holes. You know what I'm saying, How.
Speaker 3: Did you come up with that?
Speaker 2: Met them teachers?
Speaker 1: Maybe them teachers, like yeah, they be like the biggest home.
Speaker 4: Surprise type of she's got the only fans, they say,
Speaker 4: a lot of the teachers getting fired and ship for
Speaker 4: having only fans.
Speaker 2: Make it thirty grandy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they need only fans.
Speaker 2: Need to tell these teachers more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not paying them. The girls gotta use what
Speaker 1: they got to get what they want.
Speaker 2: Ronnie Hoe quotes, But what was that saying?
Speaker 1: Damn, that's my train of thought right quick?
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, we need to cut one second.
Speaker 1: Oh stop it.
Speaker 6: I'm sweating, man, all of a sudden, all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: horror show, not.
Speaker 2: Your horror showing.
Speaker 1: That we're gonna be wrap We're gonna wrap up in
Speaker 1: a minute.
Speaker 3: What made you change it?
Speaker 5: What made you change to that? Thed? What are my
Speaker 5: friends to her? And I was like, I don't uh
Speaker 5: think you mentioned her late one time, but you obviously
Speaker 5: that would be the fuder part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, alright, I got sweat, Stay move my TV.
Speaker 5: The record, but you can't see your hero.
Speaker 1: You or your home girl. You remember how bad her
Speaker 1: back was?
Speaker 2: Sweating?
Speaker 5: Oh, he said, it ain't that depends in my life.
Speaker 3: I don't know. That ain't the type of shit you
Speaker 3: wanna attach to your name. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The record, I don't know, be playing that shit in
Speaker 3: some court room or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Bad good?
Speaker 4: That be these that'd be dumb niggas sitting on camera
Speaker 4: talking about the ship they doing out here. The drills,
Speaker 4: and I will see how niggas do it. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Bro, You're supposed to know better. You
Speaker 4: talk about whatever, niggas, but you need to know how
Speaker 4: to talk.
Speaker 5: I seen you ever seen that video? It was a
Speaker 5: lost interview qut unquote OJ. Where you did it is
Speaker 5: back maybe six uh huh. Anyways he was talking about
Speaker 5: he was saying hypothetically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah see yeah see OJ is from the Bay too. Bro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, OJ my homeboy like my my boys. I know
Speaker 4: niggas from his projects and everything. Yeah, so o, J
Speaker 4: know what's up? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, J know what's up? Damn your little Ori
Speaker 3: pistol sweating like that? Did I make you nervous? Intimid
Speaker 3: just a little bit good? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I gotta make sure I do that woman sitting next
Speaker 3: to me. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: All right? Back to it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't cut it down.
Speaker 2: What we need. We need a hole on like we
Speaker 2: had a hole on a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Which one Laila redkicks.
Speaker 2: Okay, but she wasn't talking about just being a hole.
Speaker 2: She was talking about her.
Speaker 1: When she was a porn started the one she's a
Speaker 1: rapper in the ties to not ship going on Chicago, Chicago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking about like.
Speaker 3: A real right off the truck.
Speaker 1: But we had one your homegirl.
Speaker 2: She's a porn star. There's a there's levels to this.
Speaker 4: Ship stars are real prostitute stoff some of them are
Speaker 4: really yeah, some are.
Speaker 1: But how is how is okay? Now that that's the
Speaker 1: thing we got to get into. Why is prostitution illegal?
Speaker 1: But making porn isn't illegal. It's still an exchange of money.
Speaker 2: Like why is sex?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like why is that not illegal? M that's a
Speaker 1: good because men are getting paid. I mean it ain't.
Speaker 1: No female producers a pinky process.
Speaker 4: Prostitution don't really carry a crazy charge. I don't really
Speaker 4: think holes go to jail too often, no way you
Speaker 4: feel me. And when they do get locked up, they
Speaker 4: charge it for trespassing.
Speaker 1: The buildings, that's.
Speaker 3: What the charge is, or something.
Speaker 4: When they get caught up in a casine, know or
Speaker 4: you know, they moving around the casino too much.
Speaker 3: That's the charge.
Speaker 4: Truspassing you know, So, I mean ship So I would
Speaker 4: say that you know, it's not a serious charge. I
Speaker 4: would think you know, like you know, pimping or like
Speaker 4: some pimping and panderin or some human trafficking charge is
Speaker 4: that's going to be a serious charge.
Speaker 1: Right, So do you you know they'd be trying to
Speaker 1: lock everybody up. So do you think that some of
Speaker 1: those situations they are now getting the pimps, finding the
Speaker 1: pimps and then creating these trumped up charges most.
Speaker 4: Definitely, yeah, yeah, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: like who you think these whole number one clientele is,
Speaker 4: these white men, even the congressmen and the politicians buy
Speaker 4: more pussy than the Lord allowed.
Speaker 1: A lot of these famous madams end up dead because
Speaker 1: they books be thick for sure, Okay, full of people,
Speaker 1: because I mean it's it's the number one commodity. It
Speaker 1: actually moves quicker than cocaine could chi Coutchie does. But y'all,
Speaker 1: I be on this app call medium and they just have.
Speaker 3: All yeah should like me. I like the little shit
Speaker 3: sent me for sure.
Speaker 1: This is the article that came up for me when
Speaker 1: I was looking, like looking for pimp shit. You know
Speaker 1: how pimping in the church is kind of similar to
Speaker 1: like pimping pimps, much like those with power and many
Speaker 1: religious organizations are skilled at identifying and exploiting an individual's vulnerabilities,
Speaker 1: such as low self esteem, financial insecurity, or lack of
Speaker 1: social support. They use a variety of tactics to win
Speaker 1: them over keep that person dependent and in line with
Speaker 1: their influence, including a verbal abuse, threats and physical violence,
Speaker 1: and financial control. We see that in the churches, especially
Speaker 1: with these young preachers. Like what what is happening on
Speaker 1: social media with these young preachers? This is just straight
Speaker 1: pimp shit.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's all like most preachers. I think
Speaker 2: there are some preachers who like align with that, but
Speaker 2: I think a lot of the preachers that exist today
Speaker 2: do have a righteous calling like cleft flow dollar.
Speaker 4: T snakes people.
Speaker 2: Please, you know what, listen, Please bleep that out. Don't
Speaker 2: take that all the way out.
Speaker 3: Forgive me Father.
Speaker 1: So it says both the God of the Bible and
Speaker 1: pimps use psychological manipulation to control and influence people. In
Speaker 1: the case of the God, I don't know why they're
Speaker 1: saying God of the Bible, but it makes it makes
Speaker 1: sense to me. But I don't know, you know, people listening.
Speaker 1: This manipulation is often done through fear. Believers are taught
Speaker 1: that if they do not follow God's commands, they will
Speaker 1: be punished or destroyed. That's Deuteronomy six fifteen. Free will
Speaker 1: isn't much of a thing if you are also being
Speaker 1: threatened or cohorced, depending on what personal choices you make.
Speaker 1: Is it the same way it isn't much of a
Speaker 1: ways to not have a robber, uh, to not give
Speaker 1: a robber your money when being held at gunpoint, even
Speaker 1: though you have the free will to do so. In
Speaker 1: this instance. Pimps also use very similar fair tactics to
Speaker 1: control and influence their prostitutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: I mean, you still have free will under Christianity and religion.
Speaker 2: You can choose not to follow it. And there's nobody
Speaker 2: that's going to do anything physically to you on this
Speaker 2: round necessarily.
Speaker 1: But see that's the thing they are and fear of
Speaker 1: what's going to happen on the other side to them.
Speaker 1: Right if they don't do these things today in this church,
Speaker 1: right that God is heavy. It's the hardest pad out by.
Speaker 4: Agree with that makes a job with the game. And
Speaker 4: I don't know you scaring you know, you scaring the
Speaker 4: you know the the you know, all of the people
Speaker 4: of the church that if you don't, you know, tip
Speaker 4: every time the five times this collection play come around,
Speaker 4: you ain't gonna have no good luck. As soon as
Speaker 4: you hopping that bucket in the dim parking lot, it
Speaker 4: is gonna break down. So you better make sure you
Speaker 4: know you put all the money in this collection plate
Speaker 4: because when.
Speaker 3: You need a bill paid, we ain't giving you nothing.
Speaker 2: But look at all the goodness that comes out of
Speaker 2: it too. Like there's people who are blessed because of
Speaker 2: how well they tie the church and how they follow God.
Speaker 1: I believe you do get so give.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people blessed that don't go in
Speaker 3: no church. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, they might have favor you know, I
Speaker 2: feel like it's you know, it's all about want.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to add that to it. Don't be
Speaker 1: getting pimped, y'all. Yeah, but really that's about to be
Speaker 1: my last last. Y'all know what's your last?
Speaker 2: Because once you start start calling the church.
Speaker 1: I like I like parallels to okay, I like I
Speaker 1: like parallels. I like to understand all things, y'all. Don't
Speaker 1: get pimped.
Speaker 3: Don't you sell yourself. Don't let the system, you know,
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: Call me if you need management. Ready to be a
Speaker 1: mad The whole episode was about calling as if you
Speaker 1: need assistant, don't call when you're mismanaging your vagina.
Speaker 2: Hit me up at we talk back. Your own personal
Speaker 2: email for that ship d M A person around y'all
Speaker 2: want to go, don't send it to our business, no, man,
Speaker 2: I just feel people need a lot of healing.
Speaker 1: Man. I don't like uh. Like I said, ain't nothing
Speaker 1: to break a broken bitch. So if you can't, you
Speaker 1: can't control the mind of a strong woman in that way.
Speaker 1: But some people that might be they like that type
Speaker 1: of challenge. Why people may have approached you in the past,
Speaker 1: like let me see, let me see you lik it.
Speaker 2: Let me see how much hand be willing to go
Speaker 2: for I ain't going.
Speaker 4: Let me see if Tim Bam gonna hand over that
Speaker 4: spam without the green eggs and ham.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you might be going at all.
Speaker 1: The thing is that the thing is you might be
Speaker 1: going under different circumstances. Under different circumstances, you might be going.
Speaker 1: If it's indirect it was a little bit more indirectly.
Speaker 2: Let me take you on a trip. Let me take
Speaker 2: you take you on to Dubai and next thing you know,
Speaker 2: it's a motherfucker ping on me. No, thank you, no,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 3: Oh that's why they be going to Dubai.
Speaker 2: I heard, Yeah already, I am going for it. What's
Speaker 2: your last? Laugh? Tim la laugh lap my last last?
Speaker 2: Just don't sell your body, guys.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I like this conversation went somewhere else, but we.
Speaker 1: Got the church of all.
Speaker 2: She was like that, I don't like it at all.
Speaker 2: Bit just you know, just do an everything where you
Speaker 2: can look at yourself in the mirror and be happy
Speaker 2: with who you see at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: That's all I wanna put it. If you okay with that,
Speaker 2: I don't you like it? I love it, baby, But
Speaker 2: just if you can't look it and you can be honest,
Speaker 2: because you know, oftentimes people look in the mirror and
Speaker 2: ain't honest with who they who's in the mirror. So
Speaker 2: if you can be honest with who you see and
Speaker 2: like them, go for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, get what you need out the game and sit
Speaker 4: your ass down. That's all I can say. If you're
Speaker 4: out there hustling and bustling and whatever you're doing, get
Speaker 4: what you need and s the game.
Speaker 3: That's it.
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