1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,955 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Trump 2 00:00:21,995 --> 00:00:24,595 Speaker 1: could get a month in jail for contempt of court 3 00:00:24,675 --> 00:00:27,715 Speaker 1: for violating the gag order, or at least he could 4 00:00:27,715 --> 00:00:32,355 Speaker 1: be explicitly threatened with a month in jail for violating 5 00:00:32,395 --> 00:00:35,275 Speaker 1: the gag order, and whatever happens. There have already been 6 00:00:35,355 --> 00:00:40,075 Speaker 1: Soto vo Jay conversations involving the Secret Service over what 7 00:00:40,195 --> 00:00:44,075 Speaker 1: they do when you finally do put a former president 8 00:00:44,235 --> 00:00:49,035 Speaker 1: in jail. What prosecutors will settle for now is not jail, 9 00:00:49,195 --> 00:00:52,155 Speaker 1: but the threat of jail plus a fine of one 10 00:00:52,235 --> 00:00:55,435 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for each of what they count as ten violations, 11 00:00:55,755 --> 00:00:59,515 Speaker 1: which is to me a very low bid ten violations 12 00:00:59,875 --> 00:01:03,995 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars each, or, as the impeccable Harris Faulkner 13 00:01:04,275 --> 00:01:08,035 Speaker 1: set on Fox, the prosecution quote wants one hundred grand. 14 00:01:08,795 --> 00:01:13,435 Speaker 1: Some big gees. They hire only the smart ones at Fox. 15 00:01:14,555 --> 00:01:17,835 Speaker 1: Justice meyr Shaan was so exasperated by Trump's idiot lawyers 16 00:01:17,875 --> 00:01:20,435 Speaker 1: at the gag Order violation hearing that he called the 17 00:01:20,515 --> 00:01:23,475 Speaker 1: damn thing off and said he was reserving his decision, 18 00:01:23,675 --> 00:01:26,435 Speaker 1: which usually means he will either issue something in writing 19 00:01:26,875 --> 00:01:29,035 Speaker 1: and the trial is off. Today it would be a 20 00:01:29,075 --> 00:01:31,755 Speaker 1: good day to issue something in writing, or he will 21 00:01:31,755 --> 00:01:35,715 Speaker 1: seek further information before deciding, and there is no indication 22 00:01:35,795 --> 00:01:39,515 Speaker 1: that he's doing that. There is reason to suspect we 23 00:01:39,675 --> 00:01:45,475 Speaker 1: will at least see Trump explicitly threatened with jail time. Boy, 24 00:01:45,595 --> 00:01:49,115 Speaker 1: will the world go nuts over that, because not only 25 00:01:49,155 --> 00:01:52,875 Speaker 1: are Trump's lawyers genuine idiots, but they did literally nothing 26 00:01:52,955 --> 00:01:57,795 Speaker 1: yesterday to counter the prosecution arguments for fines and threats 27 00:01:58,075 --> 00:02:04,115 Speaker 1: and even incarceration. And there was one blockbuster shock moment 28 00:02:04,915 --> 00:02:09,275 Speaker 1: that hearing You're losing all credibility, Justice Meyrshaan says to 29 00:02:09,315 --> 00:02:12,595 Speaker 1: Trump's lawyer Todd, I have to tell you right now, 30 00:02:12,635 --> 00:02:16,675 Speaker 1: you're losing all credibility with the court unquote. And the 31 00:02:16,715 --> 00:02:20,155 Speaker 1: blockbuster shock, of course, is that any of Trump's lawyers 32 00:02:20,195 --> 00:02:25,195 Speaker 1: still had credibility to lose. Trump started with Roy Kohane 33 00:02:25,235 --> 00:02:28,635 Speaker 1: as his lawyer, and he's gone downhill from there over 34 00:02:28,675 --> 00:02:33,475 Speaker 1: the decades. Right now, he's got Alina Resident Professor of 35 00:02:33,555 --> 00:02:37,755 Speaker 1: Parking Lot Territorial Law and Theory, and Susan with the 36 00:02:37,835 --> 00:02:43,155 Speaker 1: hair who used to represent Venero, Benny Eggs Mangano from 37 00:02:43,195 --> 00:02:47,915 Speaker 1: the Genovese family, and Emil who was a star lacrosse 38 00:02:47,955 --> 00:02:52,475 Speaker 1: player at Sunny Albany, And of course Todd, who did 39 00:02:52,595 --> 00:02:57,195 Speaker 1: such a good job representing Paul Manifort that Trump wound 40 00:02:57,235 --> 00:03:01,955 Speaker 1: up having to pardon Paul Manafort. And Todd, who kind 41 00:03:01,955 --> 00:03:05,635 Speaker 1: of looks like the former newscaster Rick Sanchez, got up 42 00:03:05,635 --> 00:03:08,715 Speaker 1: there and insisted he and Trump had no idea that 43 00:03:08,915 --> 00:03:13,635 Speaker 1: reposting a threat to a witness counted as a threat, 44 00:03:14,035 --> 00:03:16,555 Speaker 1: and that he and Trump had no idea that posting 45 00:03:16,595 --> 00:03:19,515 Speaker 1: an article with a picture of the judge's daughter in 46 00:03:19,555 --> 00:03:23,195 Speaker 1: it counted as posting a picture of the judge's daughter, 47 00:03:23,915 --> 00:03:26,035 Speaker 1: and that he and Trump had no idea that typing 48 00:03:26,115 --> 00:03:29,275 Speaker 1: up how Jesse Waters lied about the jury on his 49 00:03:29,635 --> 00:03:34,115 Speaker 1: Politics for Moron Show and posting that how that counted 50 00:03:34,555 --> 00:03:39,355 Speaker 1: as lying about the jury. Todd either believes all of 51 00:03:39,395 --> 00:03:43,595 Speaker 1: Trump's conspiracy theories or he is pretending real hard that 52 00:03:43,675 --> 00:03:47,755 Speaker 1: he does so he gets paid the full retainer by Trump. 53 00:03:49,035 --> 00:03:53,515 Speaker 1: Good luck with that, Todd. Trump is quote being very 54 00:03:53,555 --> 00:03:58,115 Speaker 1: careful to comply with your order, Todd said. And there 55 00:03:58,155 --> 00:04:02,435 Speaker 1: are two systems of justice, Todd added, And he kept 56 00:04:02,435 --> 00:04:05,075 Speaker 1: saying that Trump didn't attack Michael Cohen, he didn't attacked 57 00:04:05,115 --> 00:04:08,555 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels. They attacked him, and the judge says, show 58 00:04:08,635 --> 00:04:11,715 Speaker 1: me where they attacked him, and Todd. Todd couldn't show 59 00:04:11,755 --> 00:04:14,595 Speaker 1: him where. And I was waiting to see a meal 60 00:04:15,115 --> 00:04:18,875 Speaker 1: strap on his helmet and grab his cross and run 61 00:04:18,915 --> 00:04:22,115 Speaker 1: out onto the field. To prevent Todd from responding to 62 00:04:22,155 --> 00:04:25,235 Speaker 1: Trump calling this a kangaroo court by himself going up 63 00:04:25,275 --> 00:04:27,955 Speaker 1: to the jury and shouting, you're out of order. You're 64 00:04:27,995 --> 00:04:30,115 Speaker 1: out of order. The whole trial is out of order. 65 00:04:30,355 --> 00:04:37,595 Speaker 1: They're out of order. The actual testimony was extraordinary unless 66 00:04:37,635 --> 00:04:40,355 Speaker 1: you haven't been in a coma for the last decade, 67 00:04:41,155 --> 00:04:43,315 Speaker 1: or in case, you cover Trump for a major news 68 00:04:43,435 --> 00:04:48,395 Speaker 1: organization and thus everything that moves shocks you. Ooh, look 69 00:04:48,755 --> 00:04:53,155 Speaker 1: a couple of beetles. A few thoughts on what happened 70 00:04:53,795 --> 00:04:56,995 Speaker 1: under oath in a moment. But the other genuinely fascinating 71 00:04:57,035 --> 00:05:01,475 Speaker 1: thing yesterday was this secret service story. CNN confirmed it 72 00:05:01,595 --> 00:05:03,875 Speaker 1: last night. They probably confirmed it by reading The New 73 00:05:03,955 --> 00:05:07,075 Speaker 1: York Times, which had it early yesterday under the byline 74 00:05:07,075 --> 00:05:11,595 Speaker 1: of William K. Rashbaum a meeting last week among federal, 75 00:05:11,595 --> 00:05:16,635 Speaker 1: state and city agencies, quoting that behind the scenes conversation 76 00:05:17,035 --> 00:05:20,595 Speaker 1: involving officials from the Secret Service and other relevant law 77 00:05:20,675 --> 00:05:25,315 Speaker 1: enforcement agencies focused only on how to move and protect 78 00:05:25,355 --> 00:05:28,635 Speaker 1: mister Trump if the judge were to order him briefly 79 00:05:28,755 --> 00:05:33,075 Speaker 1: jailed for contempt in a courthouse holding cell. The people said, 80 00:05:34,075 --> 00:05:36,475 Speaker 1: what was that they did tomorrowon Brando? I hate to 81 00:05:36,555 --> 00:05:39,835 Speaker 1: keep making these film references in Apocalypse Now where all 82 00:05:39,875 --> 00:05:43,795 Speaker 1: the villagers just surrounded him as he moved. Protecting mister 83 00:05:43,835 --> 00:05:47,275 Speaker 1: Trump in a prison environment would involve keeping him separate 84 00:05:47,315 --> 00:05:50,955 Speaker 1: from other inmates, as well as screening his food and 85 00:05:51,035 --> 00:06:00,835 Speaker 1: other personal items. Officials said, hamburger, hamburger, hamburger, hamburger, cheeseburger, cheeseburger, cheeseburger, 86 00:06:01,075 --> 00:06:06,715 Speaker 1: no coke, pepsi. If he were to be imprisoned, a 87 00:06:06,795 --> 00:06:09,435 Speaker 1: detail of agents would work twenty four hours a day, 88 00:06:09,955 --> 00:06:13,835 Speaker 1: seven days a week, rotating in and out of the facility. 89 00:06:13,995 --> 00:06:19,515 Speaker 1: Several officials said, while firearms are obviously strictly prohibited in prisons, 90 00:06:19,835 --> 00:06:25,395 Speaker 1: the agents would nonetheless be armed unquote as an aside, well, 91 00:06:25,435 --> 00:06:27,635 Speaker 1: why the hell is that the case? What are they 92 00:06:27,715 --> 00:06:29,235 Speaker 1: doing in there in the first place if they're not 93 00:06:29,315 --> 00:06:34,275 Speaker 1: allowed to have firearms and they would be armed, where 94 00:06:34,395 --> 00:06:37,435 Speaker 1: Trump could conceivably get a hold of the weapon, or 95 00:06:37,515 --> 00:06:41,235 Speaker 1: have the weapons used on his behalf. Of course, there 96 00:06:41,315 --> 00:06:43,795 Speaker 1: is Benny Thompson's build a revoke Secret Service protection for 97 00:06:43,835 --> 00:06:46,355 Speaker 1: anybody convicted of a felony with a year in the 98 00:06:46,475 --> 00:06:48,475 Speaker 1: can attached to it, but that would have to wait 99 00:06:48,835 --> 00:06:52,795 Speaker 1: until next January at the earliest. The Times added that 100 00:06:52,875 --> 00:06:56,995 Speaker 1: there were a couple of closed or partially closed New 101 00:06:57,115 --> 00:07:01,555 Speaker 1: York State prisons and New York City jails that would 102 00:07:01,555 --> 00:07:05,235 Speaker 1: have large sections or even wings empty where they could 103 00:07:05,315 --> 00:07:09,875 Speaker 1: stash Trump and his retinue for a week or a 104 00:07:09,955 --> 00:07:14,115 Speaker 1: month or a millennium. It's too bad. The abandoned part 105 00:07:14,195 --> 00:07:17,275 Speaker 1: of Grand Central Station that Lex Luthor lived in in 106 00:07:17,395 --> 00:07:22,115 Speaker 1: Superman is fictional. You know, though. The Manhattan Detention Complex 107 00:07:22,195 --> 00:07:26,915 Speaker 1: on White Street, the infamous tombs that's still standing, you 108 00:07:26,995 --> 00:07:29,835 Speaker 1: could keep them there. There's a building over here at 109 00:07:29,915 --> 00:07:32,275 Speaker 1: ninth Avenue in fifty seventh Street that's been so tied 110 00:07:32,355 --> 00:07:35,515 Speaker 1: up in lawsuits for decades that it's basically abandoned with 111 00:07:35,715 --> 00:07:39,475 Speaker 1: boarded up windows. That'd be good, but once he got 112 00:07:39,515 --> 00:07:41,675 Speaker 1: in legally, he probably could never get out without eighty 113 00:07:41,715 --> 00:07:47,315 Speaker 1: one lawsuits say as to the trial, and the only 114 00:07:47,395 --> 00:07:50,235 Speaker 1: witness thus far, David Pecker, who will be back tomorrow 115 00:07:50,315 --> 00:07:53,515 Speaker 1: when they resume. As to what came out of the 116 00:07:53,595 --> 00:07:57,315 Speaker 1: Pecker at the Trump trial, nothing new if you've been 117 00:07:57,315 --> 00:08:01,035 Speaker 1: paying attention. He and Trump and Michael Cohen set up 118 00:08:01,035 --> 00:08:05,235 Speaker 1: a machine by which they bought stories about Trump. One's 119 00:08:05,435 --> 00:08:10,075 Speaker 1: false ones, something in between, ones like the child out 120 00:08:10,115 --> 00:08:13,675 Speaker 1: of wedlock story and the Stormy Daniels story and the 121 00:08:13,795 --> 00:08:17,915 Speaker 1: Karen McDougall story, and the critical testimony was about that 122 00:08:18,715 --> 00:08:23,395 Speaker 1: love child story that wasn't true. The doorman selling it 123 00:08:23,555 --> 00:08:27,395 Speaker 1: got thirty thousand dollars from David Pecker to start. Then 124 00:08:27,795 --> 00:08:29,875 Speaker 1: they checked the story. They found it wasn't true, not 125 00:08:29,955 --> 00:08:33,675 Speaker 1: even close. Pecker of the National Inquirer was about to 126 00:08:33,795 --> 00:08:36,995 Speaker 1: release the doorman from his non disclosure agreement when Michael 127 00:08:37,035 --> 00:08:39,555 Speaker 1: Cohen said, don't do that. Don't do it until after 128 00:08:39,675 --> 00:08:43,195 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen election, because even if it isn't true, 129 00:08:43,515 --> 00:08:46,195 Speaker 1: it could damage the Trump campaign and he could sell 130 00:08:46,235 --> 00:08:50,155 Speaker 1: it to somebody else. And that's the conviction right there. 131 00:08:51,275 --> 00:08:54,355 Speaker 1: There's no way back for Trump from that. They paid 132 00:08:54,435 --> 00:08:59,675 Speaker 1: these people. Stormy Daniels included not to protect Trump the person, 133 00:09:00,475 --> 00:09:03,995 Speaker 1: not to save him and his family from embarrassment, not 134 00:09:04,115 --> 00:09:07,155 Speaker 1: to save him from lies, not to save him from 135 00:09:07,195 --> 00:09:10,955 Speaker 1: the truth, but solely to influence the outcome of the 136 00:09:11,035 --> 00:09:16,795 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election. And if you missed it, and we 137 00:09:16,915 --> 00:09:19,075 Speaker 1: know CNN missed it, they're still calling this the hush 138 00:09:19,155 --> 00:09:22,235 Speaker 1: money trial. Prosecutors finally cited the law which proves this 139 00:09:22,395 --> 00:09:26,155 Speaker 1: is not a hush money trial. New York State Laws, 140 00:09:26,195 --> 00:09:31,075 Speaker 1: Section seventeen, Dash one, five to two Conspiracy to promote 141 00:09:31,275 --> 00:09:35,475 Speaker 1: or prevent election. Quote. Any two or more persons who 142 00:09:35,555 --> 00:09:38,595 Speaker 1: conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person 143 00:09:38,955 --> 00:09:43,995 Speaker 1: to a public office by unlawful means, at which conspiracy 144 00:09:44,115 --> 00:09:46,915 Speaker 1: is acted upon by one or more of the parties, 145 00:09:46,955 --> 00:09:51,755 Speaker 1: there too, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. This is 146 00:09:51,995 --> 00:09:57,195 Speaker 1: an election interference case. This is prosecutable under seventeen one 147 00:09:57,355 --> 00:10:00,315 Speaker 1: five two. It's not a hush money trial. Stop calling 148 00:10:00,395 --> 00:10:03,275 Speaker 1: it that. I mean, I know CNN looks like bad 149 00:10:03,395 --> 00:10:06,795 Speaker 1: local news from nineteen, but for God's sakes, have some 150 00:10:06,955 --> 00:10:10,035 Speaker 1: self respect. Either call it what it is, an election 151 00:10:10,195 --> 00:10:14,995 Speaker 1: interference trial, or show cartoons have a live camera of 152 00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:20,515 Speaker 1: David Zaslav. Anyway, the case becomes more than that, and 153 00:10:20,555 --> 00:10:23,275 Speaker 1: the hush money becomes more than that. When you commit 154 00:10:23,395 --> 00:10:27,395 Speaker 1: another crime to cover up your seventeen dash one five 155 00:10:27,435 --> 00:10:30,715 Speaker 1: to two conspiracy to promoter prevent election like trying to 156 00:10:30,875 --> 00:10:35,795 Speaker 1: hide your hush money and pretend your hush money, which 157 00:10:35,875 --> 00:10:41,835 Speaker 1: is election interference, is a business expense. The irony there, 158 00:10:42,075 --> 00:10:45,195 Speaker 1: I think, is that just the first two partial days 159 00:10:45,235 --> 00:10:48,275 Speaker 1: of testimony underscores that all of these guys, David Pecker, 160 00:10:48,555 --> 00:10:53,995 Speaker 1: Michael Cohen, Trump really thought of this as a business expense, 161 00:10:55,395 --> 00:10:59,035 Speaker 1: the way the mafia considers killing people a business expense. 162 00:11:00,155 --> 00:11:04,555 Speaker 1: And they transformed it effortlessly and seamlessly from a business 163 00:11:04,795 --> 00:11:09,595 Speaker 1: expensive buying information into a campaign expense of buying information. 164 00:11:09,715 --> 00:11:12,475 Speaker 1: And guess what, Lying to the public during a campaign 165 00:11:12,595 --> 00:11:14,915 Speaker 1: is not a crime. Paying people to help you get 166 00:11:14,915 --> 00:11:18,315 Speaker 1: elected is not a crime. But illegally conspiring to keep 167 00:11:18,475 --> 00:11:21,155 Speaker 1: other people from telling the truth about you during a 168 00:11:21,195 --> 00:11:24,035 Speaker 1: campaign that is a crime, especially if you then try 169 00:11:24,075 --> 00:11:28,115 Speaker 1: to deduct it in some way. So is illegally conspiring 170 00:11:28,195 --> 00:11:33,515 Speaker 1: to lie about other candidates during a campaign. The stories 171 00:11:33,515 --> 00:11:36,155 Speaker 1: about Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio and all the others 172 00:11:36,195 --> 00:11:41,675 Speaker 1: that Pecker printed on Trump's behalf, which is once they 173 00:11:41,715 --> 00:11:44,555 Speaker 1: are finished with the stormy Daniels and the fake love 174 00:11:44,755 --> 00:11:48,715 Speaker 1: child of it all, which is the direction in which 175 00:11:49,235 --> 00:12:18,275 Speaker 1: they will next point the pecker. Some legal sidebars that 176 00:12:18,595 --> 00:12:22,395 Speaker 1: lead story yesterday here that Trump wanted his mobs to 177 00:12:22,515 --> 00:12:26,835 Speaker 1: at minimums surround every courthouse in the country, especially New 178 00:12:26,955 --> 00:12:30,235 Speaker 1: York State Supreme Court one hundred Center Street. That courthouse. 179 00:12:30,795 --> 00:12:34,235 Speaker 1: I got a few scoffs about that one. Turns out, no, 180 00:12:35,355 --> 00:12:38,755 Speaker 1: he really expected it to happen. He really believed it 181 00:12:38,835 --> 00:12:42,715 Speaker 1: was going to happen. He's admitted he really believed it 182 00:12:42,875 --> 00:12:44,555 Speaker 1: was going to happen. And guess what, it didn't happen. 183 00:12:45,355 --> 00:12:49,155 Speaker 1: It really didn't happen. CNN's Jim Shootout with the sad truth. 184 00:12:49,435 --> 00:12:51,995 Speaker 1: He writes, other than the first day of jury selection, 185 00:12:52,355 --> 00:12:55,355 Speaker 1: when I saw a pickup waving Trump flags and heard 186 00:12:55,395 --> 00:12:59,235 Speaker 1: a handful of Trump supporters, their presence has dwindled. I 187 00:12:59,315 --> 00:13:02,675 Speaker 1: don't see any outside the courthouse today. If Trump was 188 00:13:02,755 --> 00:13:06,315 Speaker 1: expecting a large and lasting pub show of support here, 189 00:13:06,475 --> 00:13:10,515 Speaker 1: it has not materialized. Well, of course that's what he 190 00:13:10,635 --> 00:13:14,235 Speaker 1: was expecting. In fact, he was expecting another January sixth. 191 00:13:15,035 --> 00:13:18,395 Speaker 1: And I emphasize again that the ultimate importance of this 192 00:13:18,635 --> 00:13:22,795 Speaker 1: trial may simply be to expose Trump to weeks of 193 00:13:23,035 --> 00:13:29,795 Speaker 1: radiation leak levels of reality because after January sixth, the 194 00:13:29,915 --> 00:13:33,115 Speaker 1: sequel did not happen. Yesterday, he had to tell his people, 195 00:13:33,195 --> 00:13:36,275 Speaker 1: and most importantly, to tell his ego. Look yet did 196 00:13:37,315 --> 00:13:41,995 Speaker 1: quoting him, thousands of people were turned away from the 197 00:13:42,075 --> 00:13:47,555 Speaker 1: courthouse in Lower Manhattan by steel stanchions and police, literally 198 00:13:47,755 --> 00:13:51,355 Speaker 1: blocks from the tiny side door from where I enter 199 00:13:51,515 --> 00:13:59,515 Speaker 1: and leave unquote, utterly untrue. Nobody showed up, not thousands, 200 00:14:00,315 --> 00:14:04,675 Speaker 1: not hundreds, not dozens, not even his family and friends, 201 00:14:06,395 --> 00:14:10,555 Speaker 1: like he has friends. That was his friend testifying against 202 00:14:10,635 --> 00:14:16,115 Speaker 1: him yesterday, his friend a pecker. It is an armed 203 00:14:16,235 --> 00:14:22,755 Speaker 1: camp to keep people away. No, no, there's no armed camp. 204 00:14:22,995 --> 00:14:28,875 Speaker 1: There was nobody, nobody to be kept away except the 205 00:14:28,915 --> 00:14:33,715 Speaker 1: ones in your brain. Maggot Hagerman of the failing New 206 00:14:33,835 --> 00:14:36,875 Speaker 1: York Times, Well, okay, he's got me there. It is 207 00:14:36,955 --> 00:14:40,595 Speaker 1: failing falsely reported that I was disappointed with the crowds. No, 208 00:14:41,195 --> 00:14:44,875 Speaker 1: I'm disappointed with Maggot at her lack of writing skill 209 00:14:47,395 --> 00:14:50,115 Speaker 1: and that some of these many police aren't being sent 210 00:14:50,235 --> 00:14:53,035 Speaker 1: to Columbia at NYU to keep the schools open and 211 00:14:53,155 --> 00:14:57,355 Speaker 1: the students safe. Unquote. For an animal skilled enough to 212 00:14:57,475 --> 00:15:00,675 Speaker 1: find a thousand holes in what we had thought for 213 00:15:01,035 --> 00:15:05,875 Speaker 1: two centuries plus was a fairly air tight protecting democracy 214 00:15:06,355 --> 00:15:13,675 Speaker 1: for some creature that's skilled. He really is colossally stupid. Sometimes. 215 00:15:14,915 --> 00:15:18,755 Speaker 1: Perhaps he was just celebrating the four year anniversary of 216 00:15:18,755 --> 00:15:20,835 Speaker 1: the day April twenty third, when he said people could 217 00:15:20,915 --> 00:15:24,195 Speaker 1: cure COVID maybe by shining light into their bodies and 218 00:15:24,355 --> 00:15:29,635 Speaker 1: consuming disinfectant. Here, eat a light bulb, wash it down 219 00:15:29,715 --> 00:15:33,795 Speaker 1: some bleach. Somewhere in that adult brain of his is 220 00:15:33,835 --> 00:15:37,235 Speaker 1: the absolute certainty that if he can just convince them 221 00:15:37,555 --> 00:15:41,555 Speaker 1: that the cops are needed at the what do we 222 00:15:41,635 --> 00:15:45,435 Speaker 1: got protests protests, if he can just convince them of that, 223 00:15:45,515 --> 00:15:48,275 Speaker 1: there will no longer be enough cops to stop those 224 00:15:48,515 --> 00:15:52,515 Speaker 1: thousands from coming in to bust him out of court 225 00:15:52,675 --> 00:15:58,795 Speaker 1: by force. Again, it's Nathan Fielder, time out on the time, 226 00:15:59,115 --> 00:16:01,115 Speaker 1: having the time of my life with a bunch of friends. 227 00:16:01,155 --> 00:16:04,955 Speaker 1: They're all just out of frame, laughing too hell back 228 00:16:05,035 --> 00:16:11,715 Speaker 1: by the stanchions. I haven't been watching a lot of 229 00:16:11,795 --> 00:16:15,235 Speaker 1: movies lately. I don't know why these references are flowing today, 230 00:16:15,595 --> 00:16:19,795 Speaker 1: but I am reminded now tragically of the fictionalized version 231 00:16:19,915 --> 00:16:23,195 Speaker 1: of the emotionally troubled baseball center fielder of the Boston 232 00:16:23,275 --> 00:16:27,035 Speaker 1: Red Sox of the nineteen fifties. Jimmy Pearson, as portrayed 233 00:16:27,075 --> 00:16:31,275 Speaker 1: in the movie Fear strikes out. In one scene, they 234 00:16:31,395 --> 00:16:35,475 Speaker 1: decide to make Jimmy Pearson into a shortstop, and he 235 00:16:35,635 --> 00:16:38,475 Speaker 1: is destroyed by this because, of course, he lives in 236 00:16:38,635 --> 00:16:42,955 Speaker 1: mortal fear of disappointing his stage father, who wants him 237 00:16:42,955 --> 00:16:45,675 Speaker 1: to be the center fielder, not the shortstop. In the 238 00:16:45,795 --> 00:16:49,675 Speaker 1: next scene, Pearsall is played by Anthony Perkins, is suddenly 239 00:16:49,795 --> 00:16:53,395 Speaker 1: calm and his wife asks him why he's suddenly so happy, 240 00:16:53,435 --> 00:16:56,035 Speaker 1: and he says, well, I solve that shortstop problem. I 241 00:16:56,155 --> 00:16:59,835 Speaker 1: got rid of my shortstops glove. Now I never have 242 00:16:59,995 --> 00:17:06,715 Speaker 1: to play shortstop again. Trump, as played by Anthony Perkins 243 00:17:07,795 --> 00:17:14,155 Speaker 1: playing Jimmy Pearsall, sees those thousands of protesters just out 244 00:17:14,195 --> 00:17:20,315 Speaker 1: of frame, the ones that aren't there, and they've all 245 00:17:20,715 --> 00:17:33,115 Speaker 1: destroyed their shortstop gloves. Haven't they to run a couple 246 00:17:33,155 --> 00:17:36,035 Speaker 1: of headlines? Well, okay, talk about people not recognizing how 247 00:17:36,075 --> 00:17:39,795 Speaker 1: the winds might have changed about them. Tucker Carlson is 248 00:17:39,835 --> 00:17:42,955 Speaker 1: still on some sort of post your Career is over high, 249 00:17:43,795 --> 00:17:49,155 Speaker 1: busily explaining that there are extra terrestrials living in the 250 00:17:49,275 --> 00:17:53,995 Speaker 1: ocean although they're probably not from some other place, and 251 00:17:54,075 --> 00:17:56,595 Speaker 1: they're also in the sky, and this has been proven, 252 00:17:57,035 --> 00:18:02,555 Speaker 1: and the theory of evolution has been disproved, and he's 253 00:18:02,595 --> 00:18:07,035 Speaker 1: going so crazy. I mean, is this a tumor crazy? 254 00:18:07,715 --> 00:18:11,755 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan had to fact check him, and Tucker thinks 255 00:18:11,795 --> 00:18:16,515 Speaker 1: he's flourishing, And then I mean, what do you do 256 00:18:16,635 --> 00:18:20,355 Speaker 1: when this happens? When a Fox News reporter questioned Mitch 257 00:18:20,515 --> 00:18:24,235 Speaker 1: McConnell about why it has taken so long to pass 258 00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:29,915 Speaker 1: Ukraine Aid, Mitch McConnell, Wow, just just just listen, just 259 00:18:30,035 --> 00:18:32,755 Speaker 1: listen to this. What took so long to get some 260 00:18:32,915 --> 00:18:37,275 Speaker 1: of these other aid Republicans persuaded to your position? Or 261 00:18:37,435 --> 00:18:39,795 Speaker 1: was it the overall nature of this bill and what 262 00:18:40,115 --> 00:18:42,155 Speaker 1: was best in that time period for Ukraine. 263 00:18:42,275 --> 00:18:44,715 Speaker 2: Well that's a good question. You already know the answer. 264 00:18:44,955 --> 00:18:54,355 Speaker 2: I think the demonization of Ukraine began by Tucker Carlson, who, 265 00:18:54,435 --> 00:18:56,715 Speaker 2: in my opinion, ended up or he should have been 266 00:18:56,755 --> 00:19:01,715 Speaker 2: all along, which is interviewing Vladimir Putin, and so he 267 00:19:01,875 --> 00:19:08,075 Speaker 2: had an enormous audience which convinced a lot of rankentfile Republicans. 268 00:19:09,435 --> 00:19:11,435 Speaker 2: Maybe this was a mistake. 269 00:19:12,035 --> 00:19:17,475 Speaker 1: Uh soup spoon for mister Carlson. You're Tucker Carlson. You've 270 00:19:17,635 --> 00:19:22,155 Speaker 1: just been dunked on by Mitch McConnell, who had gone 271 00:19:22,275 --> 00:19:24,915 Speaker 1: catatonic a couple of times in the last year. You've 272 00:19:24,955 --> 00:19:28,875 Speaker 1: been dunked on by Mitch McConnell. Time to go home 273 00:19:28,915 --> 00:19:34,675 Speaker 1: to Russia. But wait, there's more, even better, Mitt Romney. 274 00:19:35,275 --> 00:19:39,035 Speaker 1: Mitt Romney dunked on Trump. So far as I know, 275 00:19:39,155 --> 00:19:41,155 Speaker 1: you don't pay someone one hundred and thirty thousand dollars 276 00:19:41,235 --> 00:19:43,475 Speaker 1: not to have sex with you. You're Trump. You've just 277 00:19:43,555 --> 00:19:45,915 Speaker 1: been dunked on by Mitt Romney with a sex joke. 278 00:19:46,595 --> 00:19:50,475 Speaker 1: Mitt Romney, with a sex joke. Although, to be fair, 279 00:19:51,115 --> 00:19:53,395 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty thousand dollars, I can't tell you 280 00:19:53,515 --> 00:19:56,435 Speaker 1: how much I would pay to not have sex with 281 00:19:56,555 --> 00:20:01,995 Speaker 1: Donald Trump if it came to that a more substance. 282 00:20:02,075 --> 00:20:04,595 Speaker 1: The Marist Pole kind of buried under all the Trumps, 283 00:20:05,515 --> 00:20:09,715 Speaker 1: National and Navaris poll has its own problems. Biden leading 284 00:20:09,755 --> 00:20:12,475 Speaker 1: Trump by fifty three to forty seven in a crowded field. 285 00:20:12,555 --> 00:20:16,515 Speaker 1: It's forty six thirty nine, with Kennedy at eleven and 286 00:20:16,675 --> 00:20:21,755 Speaker 1: Stein at three, more evidence that the numbers are coming 287 00:20:21,955 --> 00:20:28,275 Speaker 1: out from Kennedy and to the other vanity candidates from 288 00:20:28,355 --> 00:20:35,395 Speaker 1: Trump not Biden. More evidence of that, read Galen. Trump 289 00:20:35,435 --> 00:20:37,835 Speaker 1: has lost support among independents and those who have an 290 00:20:37,915 --> 00:20:41,875 Speaker 1: unfavorable opinion of both candidates. Trump forty nine percent and 291 00:20:41,955 --> 00:20:45,275 Speaker 1: Biden forty nine percent now tie. Among independents, Trump held 292 00:20:45,275 --> 00:20:48,555 Speaker 1: a seven percentage point lead over Biden previously. Among those 293 00:20:48,555 --> 00:20:52,835 Speaker 1: who have an unfavorable both candidates, Biden fifty percent and 294 00:20:52,915 --> 00:20:56,955 Speaker 1: Trump forty eight percent are now competitive. Trump was leading 295 00:20:57,835 --> 00:21:01,715 Speaker 1: Biden fifty four to thirty nine among those who had 296 00:21:01,875 --> 00:21:07,235 Speaker 1: unfavorable opinions of both. So the lesser of two evils decidedly, 297 00:21:07,355 --> 00:21:12,515 Speaker 1: Trump by fifteen is now Biden by two. Read Galen, 298 00:21:12,995 --> 00:21:17,915 Speaker 1: Republican strategist. This Marist poll is a debacle for Donald Trump. 299 00:21:18,435 --> 00:21:22,195 Speaker 1: What are Chris and Susie It's Las Savida and Susie 300 00:21:22,235 --> 00:21:27,755 Speaker 1: Wiles Pet Summerl's daughter, Hi pet Somemmerl's daughter. For Donald Trump? 301 00:21:27,995 --> 00:21:31,835 Speaker 1: What are Chris and Susie? Read Galen asks even doing 302 00:21:31,995 --> 00:21:39,795 Speaker 1: down there? They're losing. When does this collective wisdom shift? 303 00:21:39,915 --> 00:21:43,795 Speaker 1: When do people start saying Biden is winning, Biden is 304 00:21:43,915 --> 00:21:48,475 Speaker 1: leading in all the polls. When does that become the 305 00:21:48,595 --> 00:21:55,515 Speaker 1: dominant theme? Of network television, and presuming that we survive 306 00:21:55,635 --> 00:21:58,595 Speaker 1: the election in November, what are we going to do 307 00:21:59,155 --> 00:22:06,475 Speaker 1: to replace television news because it's dead. The CNN thing 308 00:22:06,715 --> 00:22:09,275 Speaker 1: that I keep harping on is an example of this. 309 00:22:09,875 --> 00:22:13,555 Speaker 1: It's not a hush money trial. Part of Today and 310 00:22:13,755 --> 00:22:18,675 Speaker 1: Yesterday were devoted to proving that it's not a hush 311 00:22:18,755 --> 00:22:22,555 Speaker 1: money trial, that it's an election interference trial. Their graphic 312 00:22:22,715 --> 00:22:27,875 Speaker 1: reads and has read four months hush money. I'm happy 313 00:22:27,915 --> 00:22:34,595 Speaker 1: it doesn't say hush puppy trial. And lastly, this from 314 00:22:34,715 --> 00:22:40,555 Speaker 1: Axios above pictures of Chip roy Cave, Woman Green at 315 00:22:40,595 --> 00:22:45,195 Speaker 1: her cave, Womanist, Matt Gates of Hell, and Tom ninety 316 00:22:45,315 --> 00:22:54,515 Speaker 1: nine chins of Massy. This headline, how Republicans castrated themselves? 317 00:22:55,995 --> 00:23:05,475 Speaker 1: Come on, Come on, how Republicans castrated themselves? Never before 318 00:23:05,515 --> 00:23:07,515 Speaker 1: as the party in control of the House of Representatives 319 00:23:07,555 --> 00:23:10,835 Speaker 1: knowingly and willingly castrated its own power so thoroughly. How 320 00:23:11,035 --> 00:23:22,395 Speaker 1: Republicans castrated themselves boys video or it didn't happen? Also 321 00:23:22,475 --> 00:23:24,795 Speaker 1: of interest here that reminds me of when the Bushies 322 00:23:24,835 --> 00:23:26,755 Speaker 1: thought I was their friend and trying to get me 323 00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:31,395 Speaker 1: to shive Joe Wilson over the infamous non existence Sadam 324 00:23:31,475 --> 00:23:36,515 Speaker 1: Hussein pancake uranium story. And all they wound up doing 325 00:23:36,715 --> 00:23:39,155 Speaker 1: was telling me who all the people were at NBC 326 00:23:39,635 --> 00:23:43,715 Speaker 1: who were secretly friendly to them and doing their administration's 327 00:23:43,795 --> 00:23:49,675 Speaker 1: bidding within the walls of Tom Broklawland. That's next. This 328 00:23:49,995 --> 00:24:00,875 Speaker 1: is Cowtown. Finally to the number one story on the 329 00:24:00,915 --> 00:24:04,635 Speaker 1: Countdown and my favorite topic, me and things I promise 330 00:24:04,835 --> 00:24:07,795 Speaker 1: not to tell. And on Monday, May third, two thousand 331 00:24:07,795 --> 00:24:11,035 Speaker 1: and four, my executive producer phoned me at home and said, 332 00:24:11,395 --> 00:24:15,235 Speaker 1: we got Ambassador Joe Wilson. He'll be on the show tomorrow. 333 00:24:16,275 --> 00:24:18,755 Speaker 1: Within hours, the communications office of the White House of 334 00:24:18,795 --> 00:24:23,875 Speaker 1: George W. Bush began a desperate, ceaseless, tireless effort to 335 00:24:24,155 --> 00:24:29,995 Speaker 1: send me one email with talking points about Ambassador Joe Wilson, 336 00:24:30,395 --> 00:24:34,155 Speaker 1: which repeatedly, hilariously failed to get through to me because 337 00:24:34,195 --> 00:24:38,955 Speaker 1: none of them could spell my name correctly. By late 338 00:24:39,035 --> 00:24:41,035 Speaker 1: in the evening of May third, and throughout the morning 339 00:24:41,075 --> 00:24:43,995 Speaker 1: of May the fourth, I got calls and forwarded emails 340 00:24:44,035 --> 00:24:47,195 Speaker 1: from people throughout NBC who had received emails of their 341 00:24:47,275 --> 00:24:50,195 Speaker 1: own from the Bush White House Communications Office, all of 342 00:24:50,235 --> 00:24:54,235 Speaker 1: them with attachments addressed to Keith Oberman, without the l, 343 00:24:54,875 --> 00:24:59,555 Speaker 1: Keith Olberman with only one N, Kaieth Olberman Keith spelled wrong, 344 00:24:59,835 --> 00:25:05,075 Speaker 1: and even Keith Oberman with a V. This was actually 345 00:25:05,315 --> 00:25:07,995 Speaker 1: truly the first day I believed I was having an 346 00:25:08,035 --> 00:25:10,235 Speaker 1: impact on the Bush White House, and also the first 347 00:25:10,275 --> 00:25:15,995 Speaker 1: day I realized they were incredibly stupid. There democracy still 348 00:25:16,035 --> 00:25:19,915 Speaker 1: had a slim chance. The Internet had been operating at 349 00:25:19,995 --> 00:25:23,435 Speaker 1: more or less its present speed since about nineteen ninety 350 00:25:23,475 --> 00:25:26,475 Speaker 1: seven or nineteen ninety eight. My name was all over 351 00:25:26,635 --> 00:25:30,275 Speaker 1: the Internet in articles about my news career, about my 352 00:25:30,395 --> 00:25:34,755 Speaker 1: sports career, about my previous news career. There were articles 353 00:25:34,875 --> 00:25:37,675 Speaker 1: I had written, there were books I had written, and 354 00:25:37,835 --> 00:25:40,235 Speaker 1: these people who were trying to reshape the United States 355 00:25:40,235 --> 00:25:46,795 Speaker 1: of America into a reactionary, conservative, cruel, xenophobic, semi authoritarian state, 356 00:25:47,315 --> 00:25:50,435 Speaker 1: we're not smart enough to figure out how to spell 357 00:25:51,355 --> 00:25:55,835 Speaker 1: my name, just so we know who we are talking about. 358 00:25:55,955 --> 00:25:59,315 Speaker 1: By this point, Scott McClellan had succeeded the infamous Aary 359 00:25:59,395 --> 00:26:03,875 Speaker 1: Fleischer as Press secretary. His deputies were Dana Perino, who 360 00:26:03,955 --> 00:26:06,235 Speaker 1: went from being the the stupidest person ever to be 361 00:26:06,355 --> 00:26:09,275 Speaker 1: White House Press secretary to being one of the stupidest 362 00:26:09,315 --> 00:26:12,155 Speaker 1: persons ever to have a show on Fox News Pamela 363 00:26:12,235 --> 00:26:15,355 Speaker 1: is Stevens, who later wound up as a producer at CNN, 364 00:26:15,435 --> 00:26:19,795 Speaker 1: because political press people are exactly like unemployed football coaches 365 00:26:19,915 --> 00:26:23,675 Speaker 1: or baseball managers who get TV jobs and then leave 366 00:26:23,715 --> 00:26:26,235 Speaker 1: the TV jobs to go back onto the field. The 367 00:26:26,355 --> 00:26:29,595 Speaker 1: communications director was named Dan Bartlett, and there was another 368 00:26:29,635 --> 00:26:33,395 Speaker 1: communications person there named Nicole Wallace, who has somehow shaken 369 00:26:33,435 --> 00:26:36,835 Speaker 1: off the stink of working for both George and Jeb 370 00:26:36,915 --> 00:26:40,515 Speaker 1: Bush and is now considered a darling of MSNBC, even 371 00:26:40,555 --> 00:26:43,875 Speaker 1: though her only true non fascist credential is she doesn't 372 00:26:43,955 --> 00:26:48,155 Speaker 1: like Trump either. The crack White House media team representing 373 00:26:48,195 --> 00:26:50,315 Speaker 1: the most powerful man in the world in the anxious 374 00:26:50,355 --> 00:26:53,315 Speaker 1: and foreshadowing years after nine to eleven, and not one 375 00:26:53,355 --> 00:26:57,315 Speaker 1: of them could even find anybody else who could spell 376 00:26:57,435 --> 00:27:02,755 Speaker 1: my name, let alone spell it themselves. More on them 377 00:27:02,955 --> 00:27:05,315 Speaker 1: in a moment, But I need to explain who Joe 378 00:27:05,395 --> 00:27:08,915 Speaker 1: Wilson was if you don't know, and why he was 379 00:27:09,235 --> 00:27:14,675 Speaker 1: so important. Long before Colin Powell confessed to Tim Russert 380 00:27:14,755 --> 00:27:16,795 Speaker 1: that he had been lied to by the White House 381 00:27:16,875 --> 00:27:19,275 Speaker 1: and thus he himself had lied to the United Nations 382 00:27:19,315 --> 00:27:23,955 Speaker 1: about Sadam Hussein's imaginary weapons of mass destruction. Those were 383 00:27:24,035 --> 00:27:27,275 Speaker 1: the excuses from Bush Cheney for dragging this country into 384 00:27:27,275 --> 00:27:31,915 Speaker 1: an unnecessary and national soul destroying war in Iraq with 385 00:27:32,155 --> 00:27:36,115 Speaker 1: lies and torture and scapegoating and suppression and brutality. Before that, 386 00:27:36,915 --> 00:27:40,795 Speaker 1: there was Ambassador Joseph Charles Wilson four and in two 387 00:27:40,875 --> 00:27:43,315 Speaker 1: thousand and two, after pressure from the White House, the 388 00:27:43,435 --> 00:27:45,675 Speaker 1: CIA sent him back to the scene of his first 389 00:27:45,755 --> 00:27:50,435 Speaker 1: diplomatic posting, the African nation of Niger to get proof 390 00:27:50,635 --> 00:27:54,195 Speaker 1: for Bush that Saddam was trying to buy yellow cake 391 00:27:54,395 --> 00:27:58,595 Speaker 1: uranium there to make nuclear bombses out of. And Wilson 392 00:27:58,675 --> 00:28:01,595 Speaker 1: quickly found out it was nonsense, and he reported back 393 00:28:01,715 --> 00:28:05,235 Speaker 1: and the Bush White House promptly buried his findings instead. 394 00:28:05,515 --> 00:28:07,555 Speaker 1: In the two thousand and three State of the Union address, 395 00:28:07,675 --> 00:28:10,635 Speaker 1: just before he started bombing Iraq, George W. Bush said, 396 00:28:10,995 --> 00:28:14,555 Speaker 1: the British government has learned that Sadam Hussein recently sought 397 00:28:14,635 --> 00:28:18,675 Speaker 1: significant quantities of uranium from Africa. It was and remains 398 00:28:18,875 --> 00:28:24,155 Speaker 1: a complete lie, and war occurred because of it. And 399 00:28:24,355 --> 00:28:27,115 Speaker 1: Joe Wilson called it a complete lie in an op 400 00:28:27,315 --> 00:28:30,115 Speaker 1: ed in The New York Times on July sixth, two 401 00:28:30,155 --> 00:28:33,395 Speaker 1: thousand and three, the Iraq War was still at this 402 00:28:33,515 --> 00:28:37,515 Speaker 1: stage defined by rah, Rah, we're winning, but Sadam's WND 403 00:28:37,675 --> 00:28:40,115 Speaker 1: and his biological weapons and his chemical weapons might be 404 00:28:40,195 --> 00:28:42,635 Speaker 1: over the next hill. And you'd better not criticize what 405 00:28:42,715 --> 00:28:46,675 Speaker 1: we're doing, or maybe you're a terrorist. Joe Wilson said, 406 00:28:46,675 --> 00:28:49,315 Speaker 1: the Emperor had no clothes. In two thousand and three, 407 00:28:50,075 --> 00:28:53,595 Speaker 1: he was an American hero of the highest order. A 408 00:28:53,715 --> 00:28:58,435 Speaker 1: week later, a Dick Cheney flunky named Scooter Libby and 409 00:28:58,635 --> 00:29:02,395 Speaker 1: a Deputy Secretary of State named Armitage began a campaign 410 00:29:02,475 --> 00:29:06,475 Speaker 1: to punish Joe Wilson and discredit him. They leaked to 411 00:29:06,595 --> 00:29:10,555 Speaker 1: a dyspeptic and hate filled columnist named Robert Novak, who 412 00:29:10,795 --> 00:29:14,235 Speaker 1: is now working in the Bureau in Hell, that Wilson's 413 00:29:14,275 --> 00:29:17,115 Speaker 1: wife was an undercover agent for the CIA, and that 414 00:29:17,195 --> 00:29:19,475 Speaker 1: her name was Valerie Plain, and that the pair of 415 00:29:19,515 --> 00:29:23,355 Speaker 1: them were dirty Democrats. And moreover, it was Plain who 416 00:29:23,435 --> 00:29:26,035 Speaker 1: had urged that her own husband be sent to Niger 417 00:29:26,515 --> 00:29:31,035 Speaker 1: to deliberately not find the uranium or the Sadam Hussein 418 00:29:31,315 --> 00:29:36,075 Speaker 1: signed receipts, or whatever Bush expected to find there. The 419 00:29:36,155 --> 00:29:40,355 Speaker 1: Bush Whitehouse destroyed the career of risked the life of 420 00:29:40,915 --> 00:29:44,635 Speaker 1: and ruined several assignments and contacts of one of this 421 00:29:44,835 --> 00:29:48,995 Speaker 1: country's own secret CIA agents just to make her husband 422 00:29:49,075 --> 00:29:52,875 Speaker 1: look bad. So in May two thousand and four, when 423 00:29:52,955 --> 00:29:55,075 Speaker 1: Joe Wilson wrote a book about all this crap, and 424 00:29:55,195 --> 00:29:58,675 Speaker 1: he inexplicably wanted to go on MSNBC, which was still 425 00:29:58,715 --> 00:30:01,675 Speaker 1: at that point trying to be more conservative than Fox Nudes, 426 00:30:02,475 --> 00:30:04,995 Speaker 1: and wanted to go on My little Watched show, which 427 00:30:05,075 --> 00:30:08,035 Speaker 1: was considered the neutral outlier on a network full of 428 00:30:08,115 --> 00:30:12,555 Speaker 1: Joe Scarboroughs and Michael Savage's. This was a happy surprise 429 00:30:12,675 --> 00:30:17,155 Speaker 1: for us, which was followed by this wonderful, flailing effort 430 00:30:17,195 --> 00:30:19,195 Speaker 1: by the Bush White House to send me talking points 431 00:30:19,195 --> 00:30:22,235 Speaker 1: about Joe Wilson before I interviewed him. They not only 432 00:30:22,315 --> 00:30:25,755 Speaker 1: could not spell my name, but they were utterly convinced 433 00:30:25,795 --> 00:30:30,315 Speaker 1: that my interview was designed to discredit Joe Wilson. The 434 00:30:30,435 --> 00:30:33,075 Speaker 1: talking points, which eventually got to me from Assistant Press 435 00:30:33,115 --> 00:30:36,995 Speaker 1: Secretary Pamela Stevens, consisted of six items over two pages. 436 00:30:37,395 --> 00:30:41,795 Speaker 1: The headings were as follows. One political motivation. This was 437 00:30:41,835 --> 00:30:45,115 Speaker 1: about Wilson calling Dick Cheney a lying sob about a 438 00:30:45,235 --> 00:30:47,755 Speaker 1: year after the knee jair trip. I couldn't figure this 439 00:30:47,835 --> 00:30:50,435 Speaker 1: one out. Dick Cheney was a lying SOB. That's how 440 00:30:50,475 --> 00:30:54,795 Speaker 1: I got to be vice president. Two Gingrich spokesman calls 441 00:30:54,875 --> 00:30:58,475 Speaker 1: allegations about alleged March two thousand and three meeting completely falls. 442 00:30:59,155 --> 00:31:04,155 Speaker 1: This cited Newt Gingrich and his people as if they 443 00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:08,195 Speaker 1: were good sources, as opposed to the punchlines they already 444 00:31:08,235 --> 00:31:11,675 Speaker 1: were back then in two thousand and four, talking point 445 00:31:11,755 --> 00:31:16,235 Speaker 1: number three, McClellan points out political objective, and four McClellan 446 00:31:16,355 --> 00:31:20,755 Speaker 1: addresses accusations. These were quotes from the press secretary. This 447 00:31:20,995 --> 00:31:24,115 Speaker 1: man suddenly quit that job two years later two thousand 448 00:31:24,155 --> 00:31:27,795 Speaker 1: and six, and confessed he had repeatedly lied for George W. 449 00:31:27,995 --> 00:31:29,755 Speaker 1: Bush and the others, and now he just couldn't take 450 00:31:29,755 --> 00:31:32,715 Speaker 1: it anymore. And he would come on my show and 451 00:31:32,835 --> 00:31:35,675 Speaker 1: give one of the best atonement interviews I've ever heard. 452 00:31:35,755 --> 00:31:40,595 Speaker 1: It went on for forty five minutes. Five Fleischer says 453 00:31:40,755 --> 00:31:45,115 Speaker 1: VP office did not request trip a quote from McClellan's predecessor, 454 00:31:45,555 --> 00:31:48,795 Speaker 1: who unless he is talking about baseball, you should assume 455 00:31:49,195 --> 00:31:53,835 Speaker 1: he's lying. Plus he might be lying about baseball. And finally, 456 00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:57,635 Speaker 1: six statement by George J. Tennant, July eleven, two thousand 457 00:31:57,675 --> 00:32:00,075 Speaker 1: and three. This was a quote from the CIA director 458 00:32:00,115 --> 00:32:03,195 Speaker 1: which they thought was their home run, and it basically 459 00:32:03,275 --> 00:32:07,915 Speaker 1: consisted of this. Bush never saw that report. That was it. 460 00:32:10,115 --> 00:32:12,795 Speaker 1: There are three punchlines to this story. Number one. I 461 00:32:12,955 --> 00:32:16,155 Speaker 1: don't know why the Bush Communications office assumed I was 462 00:32:16,195 --> 00:32:18,635 Speaker 1: there to take down Joe Wilson, But the moment I 463 00:32:18,715 --> 00:32:22,035 Speaker 1: saw these talking points, any lingering doubt I had that 464 00:32:22,155 --> 00:32:25,795 Speaker 1: they were not all lying bastards down there was erased. 465 00:32:26,515 --> 00:32:29,075 Speaker 1: I used the talking points in my interview, all right. 466 00:32:29,195 --> 00:32:31,595 Speaker 1: I read them out loud to Joe Wilson, and he 467 00:32:31,755 --> 00:32:35,595 Speaker 1: rebutted each of them with impeccable charm and elegance. He 468 00:32:35,755 --> 00:32:38,475 Speaker 1: and Valerie Plain became regular guests on My show and 469 00:32:38,475 --> 00:32:40,355 Speaker 1: would beat the crap out of George Bush with the 470 00:32:40,475 --> 00:32:43,475 Speaker 1: plom right through the morning of January twenty two, thousand 471 00:32:43,475 --> 00:32:49,275 Speaker 1: and nine. Second punchline. A year earlier, a supply clerk 472 00:32:49,355 --> 00:32:51,675 Speaker 1: with a maintenance company on the ground in Iraq was 473 00:32:51,795 --> 00:32:56,315 Speaker 1: captured Private Jessica Lynch. The military and the Bush administration 474 00:32:56,395 --> 00:32:58,755 Speaker 1: immediately put out the story that she was being tortured 475 00:32:59,315 --> 00:33:04,075 Speaker 1: by them evil Iraqi Sadam Hussein doctors. There was the 476 00:33:04,275 --> 00:33:09,155 Speaker 1: glory rescue of Jessica Lynch, which followed, and the parades 477 00:33:09,235 --> 00:33:11,955 Speaker 1: and the you better not question this story period which 478 00:33:12,035 --> 00:33:16,115 Speaker 1: lasted about six weeks until a Toronto newspaper printed a 479 00:33:16,435 --> 00:33:22,475 Speaker 1: substantially different account that Lynch was rescued from an Iraqi 480 00:33:22,555 --> 00:33:25,835 Speaker 1: hospital and a US military team in good faith went 481 00:33:25,915 --> 00:33:28,595 Speaker 1: in to extract her, but that this was all arranged, 482 00:33:28,675 --> 00:33:32,155 Speaker 1: not by some sort of part of intelligence or US 483 00:33:32,275 --> 00:33:37,835 Speaker 1: operations or the Allies, but by the Iraqi doctors. Some 484 00:33:37,995 --> 00:33:41,235 Speaker 1: of them sneaked over to American lines at great danger 485 00:33:41,275 --> 00:33:43,435 Speaker 1: and said, one of your soldiers is hurt and we 486 00:33:43,475 --> 00:33:45,555 Speaker 1: don't have the right equipment to help her. Could you 487 00:33:45,755 --> 00:33:50,035 Speaker 1: swing by and pick her up? I reported that version 488 00:33:50,075 --> 00:33:53,555 Speaker 1: on MSNBC, and the next day, as I was still 489 00:33:53,595 --> 00:33:57,595 Speaker 1: taking my coat off, my boss, Phil Griffin called me 490 00:33:57,675 --> 00:33:59,915 Speaker 1: in and said that the head of NBC News and 491 00:34:00,075 --> 00:34:03,355 Speaker 1: the president of NBC, Bob Wright, had been on the 492 00:34:03,435 --> 00:34:06,875 Speaker 1: phone all morning to him, insisting I should be fired 493 00:34:07,475 --> 00:34:11,355 Speaker 1: for implying that the Bush administration had lied. Griffin proudly 494 00:34:11,435 --> 00:34:13,995 Speaker 1: said he had talked them into letting me get away 495 00:34:14,155 --> 00:34:19,435 Speaker 1: with just apologizing to the troops. I can't even read 496 00:34:19,515 --> 00:34:22,835 Speaker 1: this with a straight face. Now, twenty years later, apologizing 497 00:34:22,915 --> 00:34:27,675 Speaker 1: to the troops who rescued her. I must credit myself 498 00:34:27,915 --> 00:34:30,355 Speaker 1: when my brain was fulled in that I did some 499 00:34:30,555 --> 00:34:35,275 Speaker 1: quick thinking. The demand was comical nonsense journalistically. On the 500 00:34:35,315 --> 00:34:39,355 Speaker 1: other hand, if I agreed to apologize to okay, the 501 00:34:39,435 --> 00:34:44,195 Speaker 1: troops who rescued her, whoever you want, I would get 502 00:34:44,235 --> 00:34:47,155 Speaker 1: the chance to tell the whole real story of Jessica 503 00:34:47,235 --> 00:34:52,355 Speaker 1: Lynch again. So I did. The apology was fifteen seconds, 504 00:34:52,435 --> 00:34:55,995 Speaker 1: and while unnecessary, was sincere. I didn't want to make 505 00:34:56,035 --> 00:34:58,115 Speaker 1: the troops look bad. They didn't know anything about this crap. 506 00:34:58,995 --> 00:35:01,275 Speaker 1: I made sure, however, that the retelling of the true 507 00:35:01,395 --> 00:35:03,835 Speaker 1: Lynch rescue story took about two and a half minutes. 508 00:35:05,275 --> 00:35:07,315 Speaker 1: That was in June of two thousand and three. So 509 00:35:07,555 --> 00:35:10,235 Speaker 1: why as of May of two thousand and four the 510 00:35:10,275 --> 00:35:13,435 Speaker 1: Bush White House thought I was sympathetic to them, I'll 511 00:35:13,515 --> 00:35:16,595 Speaker 1: never know, Or why they bothered with me, I'll never know, 512 00:35:17,635 --> 00:35:21,195 Speaker 1: which brings me to the last point. The unintended side 513 00:35:21,235 --> 00:35:24,915 Speaker 1: effect with the long term impact of all those failed 514 00:35:24,955 --> 00:35:27,955 Speaker 1: White House emails with my name misspelled was that this 515 00:35:28,235 --> 00:35:33,275 Speaker 1: Pamelas Stevens person promptly forwarded them to people around NBC 516 00:35:34,035 --> 00:35:38,555 Speaker 1: whom she considered friendly to George W. Bush. One of 517 00:35:38,595 --> 00:35:41,995 Speaker 1: them was Tom Brokaw's assistant, another was in the office 518 00:35:42,035 --> 00:35:45,515 Speaker 1: of future NBC News president Steve Cappus, and the final 519 00:35:45,635 --> 00:35:49,235 Speaker 1: one was to some guy named George Uribe. And so 520 00:35:49,395 --> 00:35:52,235 Speaker 1: I found out all the people in the Bush administrations 521 00:35:52,675 --> 00:35:55,435 Speaker 1: we like them. List at NBC News who I should 522 00:35:55,475 --> 00:36:00,515 Speaker 1: avoid under all circumstances. Let's see Brokaw's assistance. So no Brokaw, 523 00:36:00,715 --> 00:36:03,555 Speaker 1: somebody in Cappus's office, and no Cappus, and this guy 524 00:36:03,715 --> 00:36:08,755 Speaker 1: George Urib And George Rebey turned out to be a 525 00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:14,435 Speaker 1: guy hired by MSNBC from Fox News to go work 526 00:36:14,515 --> 00:36:18,995 Speaker 1: for Scarborough. He fell out of favor with Joe Scarborough, 527 00:36:18,995 --> 00:36:21,595 Speaker 1: and I guess he didn't henchman enough for Joe's taste, 528 00:36:22,395 --> 00:36:25,555 Speaker 1: and his influence fell to a guy. I don't think 529 00:36:25,595 --> 00:36:49,075 Speaker 1: I've mentioned him to you yet, Chris licked. I've done 530 00:36:49,075 --> 00:36:51,635 Speaker 1: all the damage I can do here. Thank you for listening. 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And everything else was pretty 540 00:37:23,555 --> 00:37:25,915 Speaker 1: much my fault. So that's countdown for this the one 541 00:37:26,035 --> 00:37:29,275 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety sixth day until the twenty twenty four 542 00:37:29,315 --> 00:37:33,315 Speaker 1: presidential election, the one two hundred and fifth day since 543 00:37:33,435 --> 00:37:37,355 Speaker 1: Diaper J. Trump's first attempted coup against the democratically elected 544 00:37:37,395 --> 00:37:40,555 Speaker 1: government of the United States. Use the Fourteenth Amendment and 545 00:37:40,675 --> 00:37:44,315 Speaker 1: the not regularly given elector objection option provided by the 546 00:37:44,355 --> 00:37:48,395 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, use the Insurrection Act, use the justice system 547 00:37:48,635 --> 00:37:52,075 Speaker 1: and the mental health system to stop him from doing 548 00:37:52,155 --> 00:37:57,955 Speaker 1: it again while we still can. The next scheduled countdown 549 00:37:58,075 --> 00:38:00,955 Speaker 1: is tomorrow. Bulletins is the news warrants till then. I'm 550 00:38:00,995 --> 00:38:05,475 Speaker 1: Keith Olderman. Good Morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck. 551 00:38:17,315 --> 00:38:21,235 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For 552 00:38:21,435 --> 00:38:26,315 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 553 00:38:26,595 --> 00:38:28,555 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.