Speaker 1: Up next, out Loud with Gianno called part of the gang,
Speaker 1: which switch. Remember when Joe Biden was supposed to be
Speaker 1: the man to bring the American people together, the moderate
Speaker 1: savior who would unify this country. Yeah, I don't believe
Speaker 1: any of that either, and needed that I believe it
Speaker 1: to begin with. This is out Allowed with Giano called Brow.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to aullowed with Giano called Brow. I'm really
Speaker 1: excited for this week's show. My guess is Brian Killed Mead.
Speaker 1: One of the most well known political commentators in America today.
Speaker 1: Brian hosts the nationally syndicated radio show The Brian Killed
Speaker 1: Me Show weekdays from nine am to noon on Fox
Speaker 1: News Radio. You can also see him each weekday as
Speaker 1: the co host of Fox and Friends. Beyond radio and television,
Speaker 1: Brian is the New York Times bestselling author who has
Speaker 1: written several books on American history, including his most recent book,
Speaker 1: Sam Houston and the Alamo Avengers, The Texas victory that
Speaker 1: changed American History. Today, Brian and I are going to
Speaker 1: talk about the biggest issues of the day, immigration, race, politics, culture,
Speaker 1: and much more. Let's go today on Allowed with Gianno
Speaker 1: called While I have a very, very special guest, someone
Speaker 1: who's a bit of a mentor to me, someone who
Speaker 1: endorsed my book Taking for Granted, and he was one
Speaker 1: of the first ones to say absolutely, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: Brian Kiell me thank you for joining me today. Is
Speaker 1: such a pleasure to have you on. Go get him Gianno,
Speaker 1: congratulations really your success. Thank you so so much. So.
Speaker 1: I want to start by talking about Prince Philip. As
Speaker 1: everyone knows, it was breaking news last Friday that Prince
Speaker 1: Philip had passed, and I know that there was a
Speaker 1: bit of a flare from the mainstream media suggesting that
Speaker 1: you um said that he might have died because of
Speaker 1: the Megan Markle interview with Oprah Winfrey and Prince Harry.
Speaker 1: They say that you're saying that they contributed to it.
Speaker 1: Can you run us through what your comments were? Uh,
Speaker 1: you mean on the show, Yes, on the Fox and
Speaker 1: Friends terrble. I mean, if if that's my grandfather in
Speaker 1: the freaking hospital, I wait on the interview or don't
Speaker 1: publish it. And evidently he was outraged by it, so
Speaker 1: it's part of the story. So that's why I speak
Speaker 1: spoken about it. Yeah, and the media is running crazy
Speaker 1: with it. I want to talk about your trip to
Speaker 1: Texas of not long ago. I guess it was last week.
Speaker 1: You went to Texas and you did a tour with
Speaker 1: Commissioner George P. Bush. What did you learn from your
Speaker 1: trip to Texas? For people not in Texas, it's not
Speaker 1: a big position. For people who live in Texas, it's
Speaker 1: a huge position because literally it's the land. Is the
Speaker 1: development of the land, especially for oil, gas, wind, solar
Speaker 1: when you talk about developments, industrialization, ports, So it's a
Speaker 1: launching pad for a career. And he obviously is extremely ambitious,
Speaker 1: but humble guide typical Bush. And what he's saying is,
Speaker 1: I'm fighting when they win. Joe Biden opened up those
Speaker 1: books and signed those an executive order putting a pause
Speaker 1: on oil and gas, and his job is to say,
Speaker 1: that's unconstitutional. We out of state here, we gotta be
Speaker 1: able to do this, and please give me a reason
Speaker 1: why you're pausing this. And the other thing to keep
Speaker 1: in mind, too, is that when you pause oil and
Speaker 1: gas and federal land, you're destroying Wyoming in New Mexico,
Speaker 1: because Wyoming is something like their land is federally owned
Speaker 1: and thirty five to is New Mexico, and that's the
Speaker 1: democratic run state. Right now, why would you first destroy
Speaker 1: them with border issues? And number one and number two
Speaker 1: come back and say, well, you still make a living
Speaker 1: And what are you talking about? Because this is agenda driven. Now,
Speaker 1: what's in the best interests of the people in the country,
Speaker 1: Because if you want, you could tell everyone to stop
Speaker 1: with oil and gas. Let's do that. Let's feel great
Speaker 1: about ourselves. Just so you know, we're gonna be buying
Speaker 1: it from the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, which obviously they
Speaker 1: have a problem with, and then Russia, who I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've heard, they're not the best neighbors. So
Speaker 1: now we're going to be buying from them, fattening up
Speaker 1: their accounts instead of making Americans successful. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to go out and cover that story and find out
Speaker 1: the human cost, and the human cost is tremendous, so
Speaker 1: immediately it's affecting the economy. During your trip in in Texas,
Speaker 1: I know you also discussed immigration while you were there.
Speaker 1: Fox News recently reported on the ranchers in places like
Speaker 1: Texas and Arizona finding bodies of dead immigrants on their properties.
Speaker 1: We know many people in Central America have been encouraged
Speaker 1: to try to enter America illegally because Joe Biden is
Speaker 1: in office. What do you make of the Biden administrations
Speaker 1: immigration policies and what lessons, if any, should we learn
Speaker 1: from the Trump administration on immigration. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Whatever you think about the Trump administration, they admitted there
Speaker 1: was a problem, they made mistakes, they fired people, they
Speaker 1: hired people. They've moved it through. They going through two
Speaker 1: secretary defenses, they went into other areas. Uh, they were trying,
Speaker 1: and then when you showed up, the border patrol was
Speaker 1: allowed to take you through. I mean I was literally
Speaker 1: doing interviews with the border patrol while people will walking
Speaker 1: up on them, families turning themselves in. So I don't
Speaker 1: feel like I was being lied too. I was seeing
Speaker 1: a situation that we needed to be handled and they
Speaker 1: couldn't find a way. But eventually they got it right
Speaker 1: to remain in Mexico with Mexico's cooperation was genius. The
Speaker 1: way the President said I'm gonna put tariffs on you
Speaker 1: unless you start reigning in your your southern border, and
Speaker 1: they said, well, in turn, I will give you financing
Speaker 1: to let these people apply for citizenship in your country,
Speaker 1: and then we'll decide if they stay come into our country.
Speaker 1: And they said all right, and then they put twenty
Speaker 1: thousand troops on their southern border. They said that was impossible.
Speaker 1: Then they passed this other role that says, if you're
Speaker 1: going to apply for citizenship in America, the first country
Speaker 1: you crossed into is where you apply. So they were
Speaker 1: crossing into the next country and applying, okay, and then
Speaker 1: they went ahead and started building the wall. That doesn't work,
Speaker 1: then everyone needs so they were doing it, and then
Speaker 1: things dropped dramatically to the point where I'm saying to myself,
Speaker 1: why is Trump not running on this, Like why is
Speaker 1: he not bringing up that we quieted down the border.
Speaker 1: But what happened is it became a non issue. Almost
Speaker 1: reminds me of when McCain got the domination. It's because
Speaker 1: he supported the surge in Iraq and we eradicated ISIS
Speaker 1: or are on route to eradicating ISIS there. But by
Speaker 1: the time he got the nomination was running for president.
Speaker 1: The big issue was the crashing of the economy. I
Speaker 1: almost felt like Trump, you fix the trade, you fix
Speaker 1: the border, too quick. It's not even on people's minds anymore.
Speaker 1: So there is so much that Biden's doing that is wrong.
Speaker 1: Saying I'm being in humanitarian by letting kids stay here
Speaker 1: is inviting tens of thousands to come here and risk
Speaker 1: their lives to get here and to drown in the
Speaker 1: Rio Grand River in route, or to be taken advantage
Speaker 1: of by coyotes, or having families say the best thing
Speaker 1: I can do for my kid is to sell my
Speaker 1: house and send my kid to America because he gets
Speaker 1: to stay. So everything they're doing is so shortsighted, and
Speaker 1: the fact that they're ignoring it, the Vice presidents refusing
Speaker 1: to do anythings that make one phone call getting a
Speaker 1: total pass on it. Yeah, and they're there's projecting that
Speaker 1: there's gonna be over two hundred thousand unincompanied unincompanied children
Speaker 1: coming to the southern border, and we're not hearing a
Speaker 1: whole lot of conversation about that. So it provides a
Speaker 1: problematic status for the country continuously because you're bringing people in,
Speaker 1: you're inviting a man, as Joe Biden did, and certainly
Speaker 1: he's endangering these families. Johnna. They're not letting us talk
Speaker 1: to the border patrol people, they're not letting us into
Speaker 1: the facilities. Why is this media so compliant. Why are
Speaker 1: they okay getting the heisman? Well, where where's the anger?
Speaker 1: I mean, Okay, you don't like Trump and you're Democrats.
Speaker 1: I get it. If that's the case, it clearly is
Speaker 1: the case. But don't you have pride in what you do?
Speaker 1: I mean, as I said, Trump was willing to have
Speaker 1: a bad story told because he didn't think he was
Speaker 1: to blame and he was trying to fix it. Whatever
Speaker 1: I had access, I literally they said to me I
Speaker 1: could fly down with the Secretary of Defense and do
Speaker 1: whatever story I want. I flew down there on the
Speaker 1: pen on the Secretary Defenses plane, and they talked about
Speaker 1: how they were gonna use both the Defense Department funds
Speaker 1: and HHS funds in order to stop immigration. But they
Speaker 1: didn't tell me making a positive story. I said, let
Speaker 1: me just tell the story. They okay, yeah, if you want,
Speaker 1: you can hop on their plane. And I was able
Speaker 1: to do interviews on the plane on the way down there.
Speaker 1: Now I don't I don't think, not only couldn't you
Speaker 1: do that? Now you're not even allowed to talk to
Speaker 1: a border patrol person. If they're caught communicating with you,
Speaker 1: they get fired. Wow, So things have changed. Extraordinarily in
Speaker 1: terms of getting the story out. We haven't seen people
Speaker 1: like AOC make some of these bizarre and extreme comments
Speaker 1: that you made with regards to the Trump administration, even
Speaker 1: though the Biden administration uh has really encouraged the displacements
Speaker 1: of these children. So there's no safety, they're just coming
Speaker 1: over and you've got a lot of smugglers still in
Speaker 1: the space that are profiting off these families. Is really disgusting.
Speaker 1: You're paying taxes on daily basis, you're gotta buy something,
Speaker 1: you're paying taxes. You're writing a check at the end
Speaker 1: of the year, you're paying taxes. Uh, you know you work,
Speaker 1: you know how hard you work to get this job.
Speaker 1: If you sell a sponsorship on this job, you get
Speaker 1: a percentage of it. But if you ever get paid
Speaker 1: paid as a freelancer, which when when you do a
Speaker 1: book or a speech you get paid as a freelance,
Speaker 1: you don't take any taxes out. That's when you understand
Speaker 1: how much of your paycheck goes to taxes. And now
Speaker 1: in New York, of all your money is going to taxes.
Speaker 1: If you're in the higher tax bracket, why why am
Speaker 1: I working for half the year? All right? But I understand,
Speaker 1: you got to tax, you gotta ge roads, you gotta
Speaker 1: get subways. I get it, but is totally out of control.
Speaker 1: Highest in the country. If you're writing tax checks on
Speaker 1: these taxes at the around now every year, how do
Speaker 1: you feel about New York putting two point two billion
Speaker 1: dollars worth of some of which is your tax money
Speaker 1: aside for people here illegally. So now they're getting up
Speaker 1: to sixteen thousand to come here. It's a magnet. Number two,
Speaker 1: I've never seen something. To qualify. You have to prove
Speaker 1: that you don't exist. I promise you, I don't have
Speaker 1: any idea and I snuck in here. Please give me
Speaker 1: sixteen thousand dollars. What country can afford to do that?
Speaker 1: Can I answer that? None? What country would do that? None?
Speaker 1: That wanted to be successful and sustainable? And now we're
Speaker 1: thirty thirty trillion dollars in debt. People say, well, you're
Speaker 1: you're a rich country. You should be able to know.
Speaker 1: We're not. We're we're overspending our budget. And if I'm
Speaker 1: going to overspend, it's not gonna be because I'm going
Speaker 1: to the clubs and partying and taking littles home. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be because I'm doing something that's gonna benefit your life.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you're overdrawn, go too much in your credit card.
Speaker 1: But to go over for this reason, it's to me
Speaker 1: unacceptable for for America. I agree with you completely. Before
Speaker 1: we move on, let's take a quick break back in
Speaker 1: a second, and I want to switch gears a little
Speaker 1: bit because there's something really big going on in the news,
Speaker 1: Baseball's decision to move this All Star game from Atlanta
Speaker 1: due to the backlash against the law. As a former
Speaker 1: sports commentator, you know, I I got some thoughts about
Speaker 1: what you may think because I've I've read some of
Speaker 1: your stuff. But how ridiculous could this actually be? When
Speaker 1: six of African American support voter I d American support
Speaker 1: voter I D the companies to say that this is racist.
Speaker 1: I think it's ridiculous. I think you just took a
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar investment from the black community and and
Speaker 1: put it over to where else where. There's not a
Speaker 1: lot of black folks in Colorado. It's not a lot
Speaker 1: of black folks in Denver, Colorado. So wokeness is a
Speaker 1: new shot in the face because you're taking economic power
Speaker 1: away from a community that needs it. To see Jim
Speaker 1: Crow and how ugly it is part of America's past.
Speaker 1: No one ducks it terrible. Don't ever justify it. Please,
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that does. If they do, they're
Speaker 1: probably whispering it somewhere in some back alley. I never
Speaker 1: hear it, but to say that this is Jim Crow
Speaker 1: on steroids. And now you're saying it's worse. So you're
Speaker 1: saying segregated life, several segregated neighborhoods from eighteen seventy on
Speaker 1: down where if you want to vote, you better pay
Speaker 1: some money. When you want to vote, you better take
Speaker 1: a literacy test. When you want to vote, you can
Speaker 1: have your life threatened or you could actually lose your
Speaker 1: life to vote. So people, uh minority communities weren't even
Speaker 1: doing it. To compare this law and these these measures
Speaker 1: to that is so beyond logical, practical and accurate. I
Speaker 1: can't put into words. So Georgia does this openly. They're
Speaker 1: happy about it. They pushed back on Trump and they
Speaker 1: made some changes and they said, well, you're trying to
Speaker 1: rule out before it's even done. Stacy Abrahams comes out
Speaker 1: and says, I want to say that this is Jim
Speaker 1: Crow to point out, wow, is that insulting number two?
Speaker 1: Number two is what don't you like about it? Just
Speaker 1: tell me who you don't like about. Just go to
Speaker 1: bat on these measures. You're very popular, you have a
Speaker 1: lot of power. Tells who you don't like. So as
Speaker 1: you look at these measures and read this bill and
Speaker 1: then you hear what they explain on almost each one
Speaker 1: of them, it makes total sense to me what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is and I believe if you put from what
Speaker 1: I know of the Georgia officials, I only know him
Speaker 1: from television and radio. But if you gave them a
Speaker 1: lie detective test and said do you want everyone to
Speaker 1: vote accurately and fairly? The answers yes. What they're guarding
Speaker 1: against is fraud. They're not guarding against people voting what
Speaker 1: they're doing in Texas. They're not saying minorities stay home.
Speaker 1: There is a sense that they've lost control of the
Speaker 1: process on the unsolicited no excuse balloting. They these ballots
Speaker 1: are and apartment buildings where people haven't lived in four years.
Speaker 1: There in licenses when people leave, when they leave college
Speaker 1: there Obviously there are just changes. If they didn't request
Speaker 1: a ballot, the ballot will just sit in that dorm room,
Speaker 1: in that building, in a house. It doesn't belong and
Speaker 1: people might pick it up, fill it out, send it in.
Speaker 1: What do I have to lose? I hate Trump, I
Speaker 1: love Trump, I loved Rondo Santis, I love Stacy Abrams.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna vote for Brian Kemp. That doesn't make anybody
Speaker 1: feel good about the election process. So expanded hours. There's
Speaker 1: seven and seven. They've always been seven and seven when
Speaker 1: it comes to mailing in a ballot. No excuse, balloting
Speaker 1: is new, okay, so you don't have to tell say
Speaker 1: you could be in town, it doesn't matter. But they
Speaker 1: just want to have an idea on this. As you
Speaker 1: just mentioned, seventy pers out of the country is for it,
Speaker 1: of non whites, of African Americans. Wow, okay, so they
Speaker 1: want to but know what they're saying, don't worry about
Speaker 1: the signature verification. So that was controversial last time. They said,
Speaker 1: let you throw it out. Now that Brian kempt do
Speaker 1: a good job explaining that. No, they're able to say
Speaker 1: no water on the line. But for the President to
Speaker 1: come out and say that's sick is to me something
Speaker 1: that Trump would be raked over the cold for saying
Speaker 1: so that's irresponsible. It is irresponsible. Do you get the
Speaker 1: feeling that black folks are continuously being exploited not just
Speaker 1: bout the Democratic Party but the mainstream media as well.
Speaker 1: It just seems like everything is a narrative and beyond
Speaker 1: just what the political aspects of our of it is,
Speaker 1: black folks end up being this disenfringised, a marginalized some way.
Speaker 1: And that's by virtue of these MLB taking the game
Speaker 1: out of Atlanta. You lost a hundred million dollars in
Speaker 1: your community businesses that needed it, especially after a year
Speaker 1: with cold. They also bring up that they're gonna honor
Speaker 1: Hank Aaron in Atlanta the year they he died, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, celebrating he is the true home run king.
Speaker 1: In my mind that they're not gonna do that in Colorado.
Speaker 1: If they do, no one's gonna care or not enough,
Speaker 1: not as much as Atlanta. I want to say a
Speaker 1: couple of things. I don't want to. I think the
Speaker 1: stereotyping I thought was a problem. Why am I stereotyping
Speaker 1: on immigration that it hurts blacks or minorities? Isn't a
Speaker 1: stereotype to think that all African Americans or might not
Speaker 1: that modern our communities are working class or at the
Speaker 1: bottom run I don't think that way. But people just say,
Speaker 1: if you let the illegal immigrants in, it's gonna hurt minorities. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, does it hurt the CEO
Speaker 1: of the founder of b ET, No, it doesn't. I
Speaker 1: don't like that. To me is the generalization that should
Speaker 1: not be acceptable. And number two is why is it
Speaker 1: acceptable to believe? Why is the conventional thought to believe
Speaker 1: that minorities don't have I d S. I think that's
Speaker 1: an insult. What do you think black folks can do
Speaker 1: the to kind of stop this? And I'm kind of
Speaker 1: reminded of someone who book or T. Washington, And I've
Speaker 1: been reading his Up from Slavery, his book Up from Slavery,
Speaker 1: and seeing how he was just one of the greatest
Speaker 1: intellectuals of that time. African Americans respected him, White folks
Speaker 1: respected him, and his idea was, if we can just
Speaker 1: secure the right education and economic freedom, we can be
Speaker 1: quote co equals in this country. And black folks. If
Speaker 1: I look at Black women specifically, they're one of the
Speaker 1: most educated groups period. You see a lot of black CEOs.
Speaker 1: Now you see a lot of folks in senior positions.
Speaker 1: But yet and still the same issues of the early
Speaker 1: nineteen and seventies, nineteen eighties, nineteen, early two thousand's people
Speaker 1: are still there's still a sense of a fight and
Speaker 1: black folks not being equal with white or there's injustices.
Speaker 1: And I know that there are injustices. We see that,
Speaker 1: But some of this stuff is being used as a
Speaker 1: political weapon. Is not all totally true, just like the
Speaker 1: Georgia Law. What do you think folks can do the
Speaker 1: sound the alarm and say stop mar generalized in us,
Speaker 1: Stop saying that we're basically so stupid that we can't
Speaker 1: get an I D we can't afford it. What kind
Speaker 1: of stuff isn't so much? I remember doing talking about
Speaker 1: slavery and the the original sin and George W. Bush
Speaker 1: talking about that and the horror of it. Nobody ever,
Speaker 1: no pun intended, but whitewashed it. Ever, uh No one
Speaker 1: ever talked about saying that reconstruction went smooth. Ever, when
Speaker 1: I read Booker T. Washington's Up from Slavery, one of
Speaker 1: the best books I've ever read, the story, I love
Speaker 1: the fact that it's not his biography it's his autobiography.
Speaker 1: It was his words exactly. So what he found out is, yeah, people,
Speaker 1: you know, people who brought up and they just assumed
Speaker 1: that certain color skin made you were smarter or better.
Speaker 1: And then the people started realizing that's washing away because
Speaker 1: there was a sense that if you do not you know, uh,
Speaker 1: that whites were smarter than blacks. It was only that
Speaker 1: our of education. Booker T. Washington was somehow that was
Speaker 1: instilled in him. He was determined to get that education Aian,
Speaker 1: and when he did, he studied both cultures. And when
Speaker 1: he built the Tuskegee School, he watched the orderly way
Speaker 1: in which white farmers would plant their crops opposed to
Speaker 1: black farmers. He watched as whites were helpless after slavery
Speaker 1: because they had absolutely no skills. He actually felt bad
Speaker 1: for white because they couldn't do a thing themselves. They
Speaker 1: couldn't build a house, they couldn't take care of a farm,
Speaker 1: they couldn't fix anything. Um and the African Americans had
Speaker 1: all the skills, all the trades. So what he said
Speaker 1: is we're gonna do both. I'm gonna teach you to
Speaker 1: build stuff, and I'm also gonna teach you to know stuff.
Speaker 1: So they're building buildings and built the Tuskegee School. But
Speaker 1: he found out is if you could be a benefit
Speaker 1: to people, that's the equal that's the equalizer. And they
Speaker 1: would make the wagons that would be transportation back then
Speaker 1: and just drop it off in the middle of the
Speaker 1: town and say, hey, is this from the Tuskegee School,
Speaker 1: And they would become great neighbors. And then little by little,
Speaker 1: this preconditioned preconception of slave me and blacks being better
Speaker 1: than whites and whites being better than blacks just would
Speaker 1: fall by the wayside. There'd be people and that that
Speaker 1: we were on our way, and those people who are
Speaker 1: ignorant would be stepped aside. I'm not gonna focus on them.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep moving forward. And when I address a
Speaker 1: white audience, I'm gonna have the same speech as a
Speaker 1: black audience. I'm not gonna change my message at all.
Speaker 1: And if my goal was to have a president speak
Speaker 1: at an all black school, he made it happen. Got
Speaker 1: William McKinley to show down and give the commencement address.
Speaker 1: Everything that was seemed impossible, he made happen. In the
Speaker 1: time in which I still think it's impossible, and he
Speaker 1: did in eighteen seventy, eighteen eighty, right, he did it.
Speaker 1: I mean, we were making so much progress, and I
Speaker 1: feel now there's a there's an invisible force forcing us apart.
Speaker 1: I'm just like a loss for words because it seems
Speaker 1: as though the energy has definitely dialed up. We saw
Speaker 1: what happened with George Floyd last summer, and everyone knows
Speaker 1: that it was a tragedy. Uh. You saw a senator
Speaker 1: attempt Scott come out with the police reform bill, with
Speaker 1: which the Democrats pushed back against because they hit their
Speaker 1: own agenda and they wanted to use it as a
Speaker 1: wage which issue for the election. But it doesn't appear
Speaker 1: that things are becoming better. Even though the wealth gap
Speaker 1: is closing when it comes to African Americans between the
Speaker 1: whites and black college education is up. It just doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like there's that is making much of a difference
Speaker 1: in our country. So you mentioned people are apologizing for
Speaker 1: white privilege. No, they're apologize it for being white. It's
Speaker 1: it's there's a difference, you know there, there's there's a
Speaker 1: distinction there, and it's it's become really awful for people.
Speaker 1: And I wonder me as an individual who doesn't have kids.
Speaker 1: I'm not married or anything like that, yet, like, what
Speaker 1: kind of country will my kids grow up in if
Speaker 1: this is what we have right now, and it just
Speaker 1: seems just overly divided to me? Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: just overkill. I mean, if there are sections in America
Speaker 1: that think it's eighteen, what's straightened them out? But I
Speaker 1: really believe most of America respects you as much as
Speaker 1: you might respect me, and might be disrespectful to you
Speaker 1: as much as disrespectful to me, but not because of
Speaker 1: the color of your skin, and not because of the
Speaker 1: color of my skin. Some people like, yeah, the one
Speaker 1: thing I know for sure is that guy Brian killed
Speaker 1: me and I hate him on Fox. I never he
Speaker 1: was cognizant of color. And I think a lot of
Speaker 1: it has to do with number one growing up lower
Speaker 1: middle class, not further closer to lower than middle. Number
Speaker 1: two is playing soccer. It was such a you don't
Speaker 1: understand this, probably, but when you play soccer in the
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, nobody was playing and almost everybody was so
Speaker 1: called foreigners or minorities. And even when I went to college,
Speaker 1: I was one of four Americans on my college soccer team.
Speaker 1: And would you you never see Cohen? You say, well,
Speaker 1: I got three Israelis over here. They're gonna be good,
Speaker 1: hard working midfielders. I got a Greek guy in the back.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a great sweeper. This guy is from Somalia.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be great foot skills. I don't
Speaker 1: know about his in durance. And then you got somebody
Speaker 1: from Jamaica or Tobago. Straighter that to Bago, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tackle in a way it's gonna cut you in half.
Speaker 1: I didn't do that to label people. I just said
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna make a great team. I never saw color.
Speaker 1: I saw the culture and I loved it. You know,
Speaker 1: we had three guys from Tobago. All these guys people
Speaker 1: I just mentioned that made up our team over the
Speaker 1: next four years. Had two guys from Greece, one guy
Speaker 1: from Colombia. The whole back line was Jamaican and the
Speaker 1: other guy was from Huntington Long Island. The goalie was
Speaker 1: from Huntington Long Island. When you play sports, it really
Speaker 1: gives you an education on where a team, what's it
Speaker 1: gonna take. And that's the way I've always looked at it,
Speaker 1: and now they're forcing everybody to see black and white.
Speaker 1: Even that United Airline story. We're going to now fifty
Speaker 1: of all new pilots are gonna be minorities. And I'm
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, Well, if I'm a minority, I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a pilot. I don't want it to be
Speaker 1: because you made a policy. I want to be the
Speaker 1: best guy. Right. No, our hundred percent agree with you
Speaker 1: on and that we need to policy. Here for a
Speaker 1: quick break, but we'll be back in a second. You know,
Speaker 1: being black, growing up like I did on the South
Speaker 1: Side of Chicago, I think a lot of times we
Speaker 1: were taught to view life through the prism of race,
Speaker 1: because oftentimes they would tell you, listen, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: discriminated against. You're not gonna get the best opportunities. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna white people are gonna look down on you.
Speaker 1: These are things that that are taught. These aren't things
Speaker 1: that you you just grow up believing, you were born
Speaker 1: into believing that you weren't going to be the best.
Speaker 1: These are things that you're taught. And we live in
Speaker 1: a society and a culture which continues to perpetrate that
Speaker 1: narrative and say, because of your color, especially if you're black,
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna be insignificant to do these major things
Speaker 1: that so many other people have done. And it's something
Speaker 1: that I would have thought would have changed by now,
Speaker 1: but you continue to see it in ways that can
Speaker 1: be micro. So United Airlines, Yeah, it's fine to have diversity.
Speaker 1: The most important thing is safety in the airplane. Can
Speaker 1: you do the job first and foremost? And this is
Speaker 1: what it doesn't. So let's say that Giano Caldwell wants
Speaker 1: to be a pilot and you apologize and the United
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to go in there, And do you
Speaker 1: want people in that class saying well, Gianna only got
Speaker 1: here because it was a quota. No, you want to
Speaker 1: know what you're great to a great You know you've
Speaker 1: got great perception. It has always been your dream. Can
Speaker 1: I please have my dream back? Please? Can you please?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just astounded about some of the logic here.
Speaker 1: Is Democrats now control the federal government. The left control
Speaker 1: so many of our most important institution is the media, academia, Hollywood,
Speaker 1: increasingly athletes, and now even corporate America. How do you
Speaker 1: see our culture changing in the coming years as a
Speaker 1: result of all the leftist control and what role does
Speaker 1: Joe Biden terrible? It couldn't be more disappointed. I think,
Speaker 1: I don't want people are listening to this, but for
Speaker 1: him to now put together a thirty six person committee
Speaker 1: to study fattening the courts, for him to be writing
Speaker 1: checks one nine trillion dollars, essentially bribing people to vote
Speaker 1: for him and then putting two point two trillion in
Speaker 1: there and pretending its infrastructure. We basically we elected AOC.
Speaker 1: Everything that's going on is way to the left, and
Speaker 1: I don't think the country is there yet. My worry
Speaker 1: is they're being bribed. They're being bribed with tax dollars,
Speaker 1: tax tax dollars, and he's gonna get credit for as
Speaker 1: we come out of the pandemic and vaccines or shott
Speaker 1: into people's arms, and then we'll be able just to
Speaker 1: go back to work, not asking to reboot where in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight we had to go back and
Speaker 1: go find with the bad new banking system will be
Speaker 1: and find new careers in some situations. But now we
Speaker 1: have to just go back to work, go back to
Speaker 1: that restaurant, go back to the department store, Uh, go
Speaker 1: back to go back to your apartment building. Uh, and
Speaker 1: now go back to your workplace. And that's gonna put
Speaker 1: the economy on turbo speed. My big worry is they're
Speaker 1: going to say that these policies gave us that and
Speaker 1: and this kind of economy was blown was coming back.
Speaker 1: I don't care who was president because of the pandemic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that he's gonna gut defense. That's what I
Speaker 1: think the legacy is. And it gout defense at a
Speaker 1: time where China doing the exact opposite. It's death. It's
Speaker 1: death to our superpower status. Speaking of China, to pick
Speaker 1: pick up on that point, recently, they threatened the United
Speaker 1: States if they boycott at the Olympics. They said that
Speaker 1: it would be a robust Chinese response if the US
Speaker 1: was to do that. I think Joe Biden kind of
Speaker 1: cow til to that because at first there was at
Speaker 1: least reports that there were conversations with our allies about
Speaker 1: boycotting because of the human rights abuses in China. Joe
Speaker 1: Biden is clearly showing weakness to China. Why do you
Speaker 1: think that is? Yeah, I mean Anthony B. Lincoln was
Speaker 1: the recipient, but did give some back in Alaska. I'm
Speaker 1: mildly encouraged by him. He talked about the go to
Speaker 1: the Asian Accord, uh, the Braham Accords. Um. He did
Speaker 1: talk about how NATO is paying more than they thought.
Speaker 1: That's really a tribute to Trump. He's leaving the tariffs
Speaker 1: in place, which I like. It shows that tariffs did
Speaker 1: work and all that criticism was all politics. But they
Speaker 1: are really belligerent to come into arts on our soil
Speaker 1: and talk to us as if slavery was taking place
Speaker 1: in our country. They because you have a huge problem
Speaker 1: with Black America. They're being slaughtered on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: and equate that to what they're doing with the Muslim
Speaker 1: weakers as if it's eighteen seventy or eighteen thirty. Is unbelievable,
Speaker 1: but it shows you are all politics are hurting us internationally,
Speaker 1: but they want to beat us. Our advantages, we have innovation,
Speaker 1: our advantages. We need to be challenged and uh, if
Speaker 1: you give us a common enemy, we can rally. Hence
Speaker 1: the Soviets in every way, shape or form. So we
Speaker 1: have to get interact together. I wonder think Bland killed
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