1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: He's will find my phone nighte she's will find my phone, 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: my fault. Ron and Anian, this is your therapy. This 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: is my therapy. This is I get to tell you 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: about my week because nobody would believe me. The Car 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Doctor understanding, A C compressor is a big pump. If 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: there's particulate, if there's contaminant of some kind in the 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: a C compressor, it's now been pumping junk into the system. 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron and Anian the 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage orders are open, but 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls. At eight five 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: and now he is running. Hey, it's time to start 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: your engines along. Welcome Ronny and the Car Doctor here 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: That's eight five five five six zero nine nine zero 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: zero The Car Doctor seven phone number. Call leave a message. 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: If we're not on the air, we're live on the 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: network Saturday afternoons to the four pm Eastern time and 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: um if we're not here in your neighborhood. You can 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: call and leave eight five five five six eight five 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: five five zero nine zero zero. You can leave a 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: message and the infamous often duplicated. We'll never duplicated. No bologna, 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: not a phony, Tom Ray, we'll call you back, Executive producer. 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: You're you're on the board again this hour. I guess, 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm starting to get worried about Tony. 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: We haven't heard from him, right, And you know, we 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: were supposed to be up at the Warwick Driving today 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: and there was a technical difficulty there the the internet 31 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: kind of Tony, Tony, oh where are you guys'? Ww listen, 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: what the hell going on? I woke up five o'clock 33 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: this morning and left my house in Brooklyn, took to 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: train the Grand Central Station, took the men off the 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: war and honestly, don't talk me way, what is what's 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: going on? Well? You know, see it's Tom's fault, Tony. Well, 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: I don't listen. I'm talking. No, It's it's not Tom's fault. 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: It's the hostess fault. What's what's going on? We were 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: not there. There was a the the internet, there was 40 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: a glitch for the Internet partners. Some minute folks, there 41 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: was a there was a glitch on the internet and 42 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: a family squabble here, and you know, so Tom decided 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: to see So it's Tom's fault that we were gonna 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: come back, but we're sitting here in studio. We were 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: cutting it close on time to get the live show going, 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: and uh last hour. We were sitting here and I said, 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: by the way, what happened to Tony? And nobody could 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: have called me or checked me signal? Well, somebody, we 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: tried that, but we thought Ron Ron thought maybe you 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: were stuck under a burrito truck because because Taylor from 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: Taylor from w t b Q said there's there's there's, there's, 52 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: there's this. There's this large guy with a Ron Andindian 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Car doctor t shirt on sleeping under a burrito truck 54 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: half past that with a burrito in a beer in 55 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: his hand. We were just like, it's gotta be Tony. Um. 56 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't me um um. The only thing I had 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: with the sausage and this one. All right, Well, listen, 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: we hate to tell you this, but you're gonna have 59 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to wait because we're gonna come up and get you 60 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: and then go out to dinner. Um, we've gotta go home. 61 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: How are you gonna do that? I'm gonna get back 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: on the train sucking the boondocks. Okay, I need to 63 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: go back to Metropolis. Well you know, listen that tomorrow. 64 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: We we just want you to know if you want 65 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: to stay an extra hour, we'll put it into your 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: expense budget. You can have a couple of more burritos, 67 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: try the food truck parade up there, and um, you 68 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: get warmed up for tomorrow for the Giants opening game. 69 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: Who we picking tomorrow? Ton of Cotville, big big blue? 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: Right baby, you're big big blue? All right? Listen, I 71 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: love you and I get home safe and we'll talk 72 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: next week. We'll see you next week. Oh you guys 73 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: have a good show. Thank you. Um yeah, that's that's 74 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: really what happened, folks. We kind of forgot about Tony 75 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: boondocks up in Warwick. Mom warworks about the boondocks. But 76 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, we sort of we sort of forgot where 77 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: Tony was. Anyway, this is a car show, that's what 78 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: this is. You haven't tuned into the lunacy hour. Um 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: so tom I guess uh, Tony will come back next week, Won'ty? 80 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: I hope so he Tony you still there? Now he's 81 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: gone to try he was he was gonna run. Now 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: we can talk about him again. But yeah, anyway, Yeah, 83 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: I hope he goes back next week because he has 84 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: to sit here looking directly at you instead of me 85 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: having to sit here look directly at you. Yeah. Well, 86 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. How about me sitting here? We'll 87 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: put Jeff from Michigan on the phone and let's talk 88 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: to him. Jeff from Michigan. You're out with the car doctor. 89 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Now they've got house cleaning out of the way. How 90 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: can I help you? Sir? Funny you should mention the lunacy. Uh, 91 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: you had a timing chain a change, and a car 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't start last week. So I thought i'd related my 93 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: nine about twelve years ago. I had to replace the 94 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: timing chain. Of course, the water pump and the coil, 95 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: and I my theory is they all degrade electrically together, 96 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: so you do the wires cap all that junk right, 97 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: and so car wouldn't start. I thought maybe the auto 98 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: parts people that put the wrong wires in the box 99 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: because they didn't fit. And my dad's always had holes 100 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: and meals and so I knew the timing order, and 101 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: I put everything back together and would not start. I 102 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: moved the distributor gary either way I might get a 103 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: little backfire. So I finally had to look at the rotors. 104 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: There's something wrong with that, and I noticed it was 105 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: going the wrong way. So I put the wires on 106 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: the wrong way. Now they all fit the guides, and 107 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: it looked good and and the car started right up. 108 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: So I just thought, maybe that's a problem somebody hadn't 109 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: heard of before. Um. Yeah, I lost you somewhere here. Baby. 110 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: You're saying, this is the problem you've gotten out that 111 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: the car doesn't start. This the problem you had twelve 112 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, that's twelve years ago. I thought it 113 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: might be helpful, or the timing change change in the 114 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: carwood start from last week's show. Oh well yeah, but 115 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: that car last week didn't have distributor and all the 116 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: same components. But I get it. It's you know, very 117 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: very different technology, very different components. Ry. Um, uh you 118 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: know that eighty three old years Uh that is a 119 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: computer carburetor. That is a carburetor feedback system. Correct. Yeah, 120 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: very different stuff. Um, very different technology. Uh, that's there. 121 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: It shows how far we've come in the past. I'm 122 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: teen years. Um, you know, it's uh, it's very different 123 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: stuff that you've got going on there, but um, you know, uh, 124 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: it's funny, you know, auto repair, you can kind of 125 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: divide it into regions in your mind as the guy 126 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: doing it in the carburetor era and the distributor era 127 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: are very different problems than you see in CAM and 128 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: crank sensor, computer driven port fuel injection era. And then 129 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: you get into g d I injection and you start 130 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: going through the different types of fuel and mision controls, 131 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: and some of them are specific problems, and some of 132 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: it still comes back to you know, and I thought 133 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: we were gonna talk today about your old not starting today, 134 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: and and and and that's okay, man, I'm not saying 135 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: it's bad, but you know, my my question to you 136 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: was gonna be what's it missing? And it's always the 137 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: same question, regardless of whether it's carbureted, port fuel, g 138 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: d I, distributor distributor list whatever. What's it missing? Does 139 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: it have spark? Does it have fuel as it got 140 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: a mechanical issue? Did it jump the chain? Did it 141 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: did it you know, uh, go out of time? Did it? 142 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: You know? Have a compression loss for some reason. We 143 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: had a um, we had a Lincoln last week that 144 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: had fuel pump issues and fuel system problems, and Lincolns 145 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: are too big and heavy to push, and it was 146 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: a simple matter of uh drive. I drove the car 147 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: in on a bottle of propane, you know, as soon 148 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: as I knew it was missing fuel and it had 149 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: spark the heck with it, I hooked up some propane 150 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: to it and drove the car in on propane. Because 151 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: it's it's too big and heavy and runs too old 152 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: to push cars anymore. So, UM, my point being, the 153 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: basics still come into effect as always. Yeah, so all right, 154 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: how many how many miles do you have on your cards? 155 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: Is y? You're coming up with ye another five years? 156 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: You're thirty five years old right now? That car? Yeah yeah, 157 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: I forget it's it's up there. It's under two hundred sells. 158 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: And but I replaced all the brake lines except the 159 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: front two, and then I'm gonna have to do those 160 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: which trans do Which trans do you have? Jeff? Do 161 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: you have the turk about two D? Do you have 162 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: the baby trans or do you have the good trans 163 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: the bigger one? I think it's the bigger one. Hope, yeah, 164 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: so yeah, no the question real quick, uh, just it 165 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: might be helpful with somebody with those old cars the 166 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: had a brake fluid leak the left rear anyway, the 167 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: very cable had seized in the sheath in the right 168 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: shoe wouldn't move, so a free a free all in 169 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: the sheet. But there was a problem with the shoe 170 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: hardware kits. They didn't come with the top spring. The 171 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: top bar between the shoe is at the top right, 172 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: and and none of my other springs would work. And 173 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: I noticed the old shoe hole down springs, and so 174 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: I ended up using a half inch Allen wrench in 175 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: the vice straight up and I compressed those on a 176 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: half and they turned out to be the perfect oval. 177 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: The short springs with the brake bar is with the 178 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: right length, and the long spring as you cut around 179 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: and a half five hundred for you de grease off 180 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: it compressed it cut the top in with a yellow 181 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: pocket screw driver, yellow handle screw driver, and they're stronger, better, 182 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: they work perfectly. Just case anybody, And and what what 183 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: the spring you're looking for would be in the park 184 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: break self adjuster kit. There's actually a couple of different 185 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: break spring kits when you go to the park store. 186 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: So there's there's hole down springs, and then there's gonna 187 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: be the park lever uh and the self adjuster kit, 188 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: and there's there's usually two or three different style brake 189 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: spring kits on drum brake systems, and that would be 190 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: in the park break lever be the pall. But hey, listen, 191 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: you've got something to work. We're looking for bounce back 192 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: and um, you know you made it work, so but 193 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: people didn't know about that. Yeah, that's listen. I started 194 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: on the parts counter fifteen years ago. Um, you know 195 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: when dirt was invented, so uh um you know Castle 196 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: Otto Parts, Ramsey, New Jersey. That was my first job. 197 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: Work work in the counter, that's you know. And then 198 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: somebody said, gee, you'd be better on this side of 199 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: the counter, and I moved over and that was it. 200 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: So the career was born. Jeff, I gotta go. I 201 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: appreciate the call. I appreciate the comments. I loved how 202 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: it had to be a yellow pocket screw driver. I 203 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: thought that was a great description. See I was listening. 204 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. You're very welcome. Man. You have a 205 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: good rest of the weekend. Five five zero nine zero 206 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: The Car Doctors cruising back, don't go away? What's more 207 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: fun than listening to Ronady in the Car Doctor and 208 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: getting that car fixed? Right? Eight five five five zero 209 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Give run a call? Now back to Ron. 210 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: Let's go over to Dianne, Louisiana. Some questions about buying 211 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: a car. Dianne, Welcome to the Car Doctor. How can 212 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: I help hi? Ron? Um, I am wanting to buy 213 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: a Mercury Grand Marquis. Um. I loved the big cars. 214 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: I used to have one years ago and then everybody 215 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: got panicked between the gas and whatever. Anyway, Um, I 216 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: now presently drive a Subaru out Back two thousand one. Uh, 217 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't enjoy it. I had two big dogs, which 218 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: is why I bought it. But it's a great car. 219 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: I don't have any problems. I just I don't like it. 220 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: So my question to you is, I have read that 221 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: mechanics kind of really like these Marquees. So as far 222 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: as working on them either there I don't know, just 223 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: because they're bigger, engine stuffed, easier to get to I 224 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: don't know. But I'm wondering, can you shoot me into 225 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: section of somewhere between you know, two thousand four and nine. 226 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to stay between the five or six thousand 227 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: dollar range in my area. Yeah, I would tell you that. 228 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: So let's look at it like this. If we're between 229 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: two thousand four and two thousand nine, A two thousand 230 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: nine Mercury Grand Marquee, uh, you know, at the very 231 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: least right now is ten years old. A two thousand 232 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: four is fifteen years old. So it's not so much 233 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: in terms of car condition, because obviously you'll look for 234 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: something with you know, as low as mileage as possible 235 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: within your budget. But it's also about parts availability. And 236 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't mean I don't mean big stuff. You know, 237 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: you can probably repair the engine and transmission if it 238 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: needed it, and differential rear action. You know, all those 239 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: parts are generally available. It's the small goofy stuff. It's 240 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: the power doorlock actuator, it's the door handle, it's the mirror, 241 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's the small trim that's getting harder 242 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: to find on the older cars. And I'm not saying 243 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: it would it would deter me from buying it, all right, 244 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: but you know, it's just something to be aware of. 245 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: So you know, if I had my preference two thousand nine, 246 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: but you know, eight or nine, the last couple of 247 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: years of production. Um, I think I think the last 248 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: couple of years. By then, I think they went to 249 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: steering racks and oh four or oh five. Uh, the 250 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: steering got better, the breaking got better, the brake line 251 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: started to become vinyl coated on certain models, so they 252 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: got to be better cars. Um. But parts, parts does 253 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: come into it. Uh, you know, it's it's listen. I 254 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: just I just went through this dilemma with my wife's car. 255 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: She had a she had an No. Five Chevy Malibu, 256 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: sweet little car, hundred and seventy five thousand miles on it, 257 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: and we've been nursing the trans for the past year 258 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: because the decision had to be made. Do we do 259 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: we put a trans in it? Do we you know, 260 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: do we get rid of it? And it ultimately came 261 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: down to I looked at the car and I said, 262 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: here's a here's a here's a fourteen year old car 263 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: with a hundred and seventy five thousand miles on it. 264 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: I haven't done anything to the car. Has been a 265 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: strong car. Um, but it needed a trans original starter, 266 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: original alternator, original water pump, original a C compressor, original radiator. 267 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's there's even doing it on my 268 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: own time, which what's my time worth? My time has 269 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: value because I don't get a lot. I don't I 270 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: can't manufacture time. And I believe me when I tell 271 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: you I'm always doing something. Um, you know I'm gonna 272 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: put I'm gonna put a couple of five six thousand 273 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: dollars in a fifteen year old car. Where's where's my 274 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: parts availability? How easily can I get parts? What if 275 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: I want to take it on a long road trip? 276 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: And you know you gotta think of all those things. Now, 277 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: if you're gonna buy this Mercury Grand Marquis and stay 278 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: close to home with it, right, you know, then yeah, 279 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: listen to it. Um. Well, and that's another thing. Um, 280 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm seventy years Oh. I don't go far and I 281 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: don't go fast in general. And I have read of course, 282 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: these big cars don't like that. They want to be 283 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: driven a lot. You know, Listen, I think I think 284 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: that short trips on any car are tough on the car, 285 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: right and personally I think a short trip a short 286 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: a short driven Grand Marquee is gonna hold up better 287 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: than a Subaru, uh, simply because the sub Brus are 288 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: known for their head gasket problems and that primarily happens 289 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: on a short trip driven car because it it doesn't 290 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: heat up all the way and it doesn't come up 291 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: to operating temperature. And I mean a mechanic tell me that, 292 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: you know you really need I can't. I can't. But 293 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: the only thing I do do is change the oil often, 294 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: no attention to win how many miles. I just know, 295 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: generally speaking, in two months time, I hardly go anywhere, 296 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: but I'm going to change that oil again. Whether that 297 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: is doing anything for me or the engine, I don't know. Yeah, 298 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: And I you know, I would probably tell you that 299 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: every three to four months on a real short trip 300 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: driven car, and then paying attention to fluids entire prey 301 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: shuring things like that, and I think you'll get more 302 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: life out of the car and you'll stretch your dollars 303 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: a little bit longer. But you know, I have no 304 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: problem telling you to buy a ten year old Mercury 305 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: graandmar Key, because you are right, they are easier to 306 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: work on. Well. And let me ask you this now, 307 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: because just because of the type of car they are, 308 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: they've generally been owned by older people and they've had 309 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: the same thing. You know, I can find a two 310 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: thousand four or five more keys with under ninety thousand 311 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: miles on it um same thing. They're all in that 312 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: price range five thousand dollars give a take, and even 313 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: the two thousand nine. Maybe it's a come on for 314 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: the dealship to get you to come in because it's 315 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: priced below value. But either way, you know, if I 316 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: can get a two thousand nine for a hundred and 317 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: eight thousand miles on it, which means it was at 318 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: least driven and whatever makes sense what you're telling me 319 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: as far as the age of it, and you know 320 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: I don't need to be buying something older well because 321 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: it makes sense. Yeah, you always do, Thank you, Darlin. Listen, 322 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: look at look at the alternative. You're gonna go out 323 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: and spend forty five dollars on a vehicle, even if 324 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: you had it, you're gonna to drive to the corner 325 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: store and do five thousand miles a year. I see 326 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: these people look really the elderly with the money. I 327 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: see him doing this off the time. I don't get 328 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: like you got to be crazy people. Yeah, but anyway, well, 329 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: look I appreciate you've given me a direction to go 330 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: in and make sense. So you're very welcome, darlin. I'm 331 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: glad I could beady. Thank you, sweetheart. You have a 332 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: good rest of the day. Thank you, You're very welcome home. Yeah, 333 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: and you know, there's a there's a lot to be 334 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: said for buying that older full size car. I still 335 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: don't understand why Ford stopped producing the Crown Vic Mercury 336 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: Grand Marquee body style. You know, used to be that 337 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: used to be the cop car in the taxi car. 338 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: Now you see what everybody's driving, Ford explore. So we 339 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: went from driving, we went from driving this big you know, 340 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: if you think about it, right, we're really all driving 341 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: station wagons. Anyway. What's the suburban. It's just a bigger, 342 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: heavier station wagon. What's an ext edition a bigger heavier 343 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: station wagon. And you know, listen, if I could find 344 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: if I could find like a ninety five full size 345 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: Caprice wagon, oh my god, those were the greatest things 346 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: going Chevy Wagon. So uh ge whiz it's anyway, car models, 347 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: why they go away, that's a whole another story. I'm 348 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: running ading the Car Doctor come back for the rest 349 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: of the story. Right after this, I'll be right back 350 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: when the family car needs some fixing. There's only two 351 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: things that really matter, getting the right part and getting 352 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: some good advice. It's a pretty safe bet that, with 353 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: over a million parts in stock, pet Boys has the 354 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: right part right now. The pet Boys Pros are extensively 355 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: trained to find the right part for just about any 356 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: car truck. Better yet, these pros can also handle the 357 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: entire installation or service needed. It's always good to have 358 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: options and no the pet Boys pros have it covered 359 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: either way. Welcome back. We're naing of the car doctright 360 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero. Let's good to talk to Alan 361 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: Main O H Chevy Malibu. Al. Welcome to the car Doctor. Sure, 362 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: how can I help? Have an O eight Malibu at 363 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: three point five and it was bringing up a crank 364 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: sensor code p all three three six, And as the 365 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: stuff problem started, you would start a cold, would show 366 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: no RPM and would go into limp mode. After the 367 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: thing warmed up, it would run fine and you had 368 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: attack again. And we've been chasing this for a while. 369 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: And UH replaced a crank sensor and the cam sensor 370 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: because I read that that can be involved in the RPM. UM. 371 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: Now we're at a point of long start. Okay, when 372 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: did it reached? What did you change that made it 373 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: reach the point of a no start? Well, I put 374 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: it in the CAM sensor, I backed it out in 375 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: LIMP mode and went back to it after that him 376 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: enables that its sins UM. I've been testing circuits, you know, 377 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: for UM to see if there's anything bad and the 378 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: wiring anything like that, and the only thing I've come 379 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: up with is the input line to the crank sensor 380 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: is low voltage. I've got five point all four volts 381 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: and it should be twelve okay. So and that's the 382 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: that's the signal, that's the signal line, or that's the 383 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: feed line input okay. So that's coming from the PCM 384 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: going to the censor, and the sensor has gotta pull 385 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: that signal and generate that into a signal of some sort. Uh. 386 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: There's a three wire sensor. Yeah, I recall as a 387 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: low reference center and that one's getting point won five 388 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: volts UM. So the first question is why we only 389 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: have Why don't we only have five volts on twelve 390 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: volt line? Right? Yeah? That would that would be That 391 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: would be my question. Perhaps it's in the PCM. Well 392 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: it could be, so my next I got twelve volts 393 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: on the ignition um pin nineteen and twelve volts on 394 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: the twelve feet pin twenty. So you have twelve volts 395 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: at the PCM, but somehow it's getting lost coming out 396 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: from the harness correct. So I was getting lost coming 397 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: out the pc M before it gets to the honest. So, 398 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: so right, but it's coming you saying that you've got 399 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: it at the PCM, but between the PCM and the 400 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: crank censor it's getting lost. No, I don't have the 401 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: feed line um that comes from the PCM to the 402 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: crank censor reased five point or full five point oh 403 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: four volts coming out of the PCM, and he's the 404 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: same at the crank censor. Okay. So and that's supposed 405 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: to have twelve vaults on it. Yes, Why are you 406 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: sure about that? Okay, I'll take your word for it. 407 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: I have to I have to have time. I tested it. 408 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: We had ten volts and then I've been re checking everything, 409 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: just can't get it run. And then now I have 410 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: five four vaults. Okay, So if we're supposed to have 411 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: twelve vaults there. What's the harm in cutting the harness 412 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: and inducing twelve vaults right to that sensor? Well, I've 413 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: considered that, I've done that. I can't say I've done 414 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: that on that specific vehicle, but at times I just 415 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, let's take the component out of the car 416 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: and and and make it work on its own. Let's 417 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: get it away from the thing that's broken. Um. But 418 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, before we do that, let's back up a second. 419 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: If you look at this on a scan tool, Um, 420 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: do you see cranking RPM being signaled? Yes? You do? Yeah, 421 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: And I didn't before when this problem started, when it 422 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: didn't read on the dash, it didn't read on the 423 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: UM scandal. But I am reading our PM now as 424 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I turn it over. Okay, well if you're reading. But 425 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: if you're reading our PM and if you're reading RPM 426 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: while you're cranking it, that doesn't make any sense. It 427 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: sounds like the crank sensor is working. Yes, do you 428 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: do you have let me ask you this. Do you 429 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: have a scope? All? No? Um, I'd love to see 430 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: if we could get we can get a signal out 431 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: of that out of that uh sensor. Um. Uh. You 432 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: know if we could just put it. You know, it's 433 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a square wave. Do we um? Uh? 434 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: Do we have an issue? Uh? The other question I've 435 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 1: got is, and I know this sounds I know this 436 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: is gonna sound strange to you. Get your hands on 437 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: General Motors service bulletin Um. Um, it's actually a piece 438 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: of service information. They're gonna treat it as a TSB 439 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: internally in GM. If you go into all data you'll 440 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: find it. But they talk about a service engine light 441 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: during uh crank no starter or heart start condition and 442 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: it will set a three thirty six and it's contaminated fuel, 443 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: you know. Um. Uh. So you know, maybe before we 444 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: go pulling our hair out, let's cover you know, let's 445 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: go back to what can you tell me the car has? 446 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: You know, um? Maybe and maybe you know, backing backing 447 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: up a second, thinking about it, do you have a 448 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: do you have a stethoscope or something you can listen 449 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: to the injectors with yes, did the injectors click? Uh? Yes, 450 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: it's loading up right now? Okay if the injectors when 451 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: you when you turn it over, it sounds like the 452 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: timings off it coughed back to the intake and those 453 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy things. Um, I have tested. It's 454 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: got a hundred fifty pounds compression. He wants as far 455 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: as to look at the timing because someone told me 456 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: that we believed it was cam phaser timing is right on. Yeah, 457 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: and I've seen I've seen cam phaser issues. But it'll run. 458 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: It'll just run real bad and rough. Um, you know, 459 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: it'll still fire. It's a long mower engine, man, it's 460 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: just got it's just got five extra cylinders. Let's let's 461 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: think about the basics, so you know, let's let's let's 462 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: think about what's good as mechanics. Right, Let's just put 463 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: put a fuel pressure gauge on it. Check fuel pressure 464 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 1: sixty pounds. Let's take a fuel sample, all right, go 465 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: out and get a bottle, out and get a bottle 466 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: of Snap. Will drink the Snap will fill the Snaple bottle. 467 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: If it fills the Snaple bottle in twenty seconds while 468 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: cranking it, fuel pressure is good. Now, you can take 469 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: a fuel sample. Fuels clean, move on. But let's just 470 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: be sure if the injectors are clicking then and you've 471 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: got a cranking signal at the tack at the at 472 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: the scan tool, I gotta tell you, it sounds like 473 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: the crank sensor circuits working. Yeah. I've thought that too, 474 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: but I've just concerned because the voltage reading is law. Right, Well, 475 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: let's get away from the voltage reading for the moment 476 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: and let's just go with functionality. Do the injectors do 477 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: the injectors click? Doesn't have spark? If the if they 478 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: got a good spark and the attempts do click and 479 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: like I said, it kicks back, it copts up through 480 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: the end. All right, do do this? Then? All right? 481 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: Unplugged the crank sensor does it? Does it? No? Does 482 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: it no longer hav injector pulse when you do that? 483 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: And you know why because it no longer has injector 484 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: pauls in It no longer has spark, I bet you. 485 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: And if if that's true, then guess what, there's nothing 486 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: wrong with the crank sensor. There's nothing wrong with the 487 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: crank sensor or the circuitry. Then don't worry about it 488 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: at that point. Um, if you can get a square 489 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: wave on it and scope, it's great, you know it 490 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: would be It would be nice if if you could 491 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: scope and compare cam crank to it. You know what 492 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean when I say a cam crank overlay, you know, 493 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: and and and look at cam timing in relation to 494 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: the crank and then you know, see what you've got there. 495 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: But then maybe I'll buy the fact maybe it jumped time. 496 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, that's right on. Timing is right on 497 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: the mark. Okay, let's let's let's figure out what's good. 498 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's do that this week. Let's figure out 499 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: what's good. Unplugged the crank censor. You should lose sparking 500 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: injector pulse plug it back in. You should get it 501 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: back to me. That tells to me. That tells me 502 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: that um, crank censor is working. I don't see how 503 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: it's not. And then we'll talk about We'll talk about 504 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: cam censor next week. I'll be here, all right, sir, 505 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: very good. Do you have my email? I don't ron 506 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: at card doctor show dot com. Very simple. I can 507 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: figure that out. Yeah. Um. And then if you would 508 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: email me the VIN, the seventeen digit VIN and um, 509 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: you know, let me know what the test results are. 510 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: We'll talk next week. All right. I appreciate you. You're 511 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: very welcome, sir. You you you do all that. We'll 512 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: talk to you soon, Yes, sir, you're very welcome. Zero. Yeah. 513 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta go backwards and you gotta figure out, 514 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, here's what's good. Okay, then you know prove 515 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: it's bad. How can I prove the crank sensors working 516 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: or not working? What if I unplug it doesn't take 517 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: away sparking injector pulse? Yeah, I guess what it's working. Um, 518 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: we don't know if it's working effectively. We don't know 519 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: how clean the signal is. And that's where the scope 520 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: would come in. It will tell us, you know, is 521 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: it a precise signal, But at least it tells us 522 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: you know what we're actually seeing there. That twelve volte number, 523 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: I gotta look that up. That doesn't sound right to me. 524 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: Five zero nine zero zero. The car doctors coming back 525 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: right after this. I got er time. Right it on 526 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: the wall, so you don't forget to call for car advice. 527 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: Done right? Eight five five five zero zero zero. Now 528 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: back to row. In a way, I'm glad. Well. One 529 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: of the nice things about Okay, we're not the world 530 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: with driving this week is because a lot of weird 531 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: things happened at the shop this week. And I said, 532 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: when this one particular thing happened. I said, Oh, I 533 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: want to talk about this Saturday. Oh I can't. I 534 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: won't be I'll be doing a remote. So here's what 535 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you. How to service the drive 536 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: line Ford escape eighty eight thousand miles on it my 537 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: my my daughter's car. She was in from uh A, 538 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania this week and approaching ninety thousand miles. You want 539 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: to go through drive line fluids. Trans has been done, 540 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: but I've never done the rear differential. Shame on me. Um. 541 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: She kind of racked up some miles and it got 542 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: away from me. But you know, I never I had 543 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: never serviced the rear differential on her car. And I 544 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: had never serviced what they call the PTU or the 545 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: power takeoff unit, which is up front. It's the it's 546 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: the piece that UM directs the rear drive shift and 547 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: helps create the four wheel drive option for the front, 548 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: sort of like a front transfer case, if you will. 549 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what Ford is thinking, and I like Ford. 550 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: I think Ford makes a great car, I really do. 551 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: But every once in a while you kind of run 552 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: into that engineer that I think, you know, I don't know. 553 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: He he he went out for a liquid luncheon, came 554 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: back in at two o'clock in the afternoon and said, hey, 555 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: let's build it. Anybody who cares. Let's see if anybody notices. 556 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: The PHIL plug for the front power takeoff for the 557 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: front transfer case unit is a tiny little thing. It's 558 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: a it's it's like a Torqus plus fifty um steel 559 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: plug cast into an aluminum case. Stealing aluminum. You put 560 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: stealing aluminum together. It's like your relatives at the holidays. 561 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: Nobody gets along with each other. And to get it out, 562 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: you have to move the turbo intercooler tube, which is 563 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: held on with these one time use only clips. So 564 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: that becomes a joy, and the kicker becomes that there 565 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: is less than twelve ounces of fluid in the p tu. 566 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: Think about that. That's less than a pint. There's less 567 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: than a pint of synthetic gearlube in this transfer case. 568 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: It's a very light that's a very light oil um 569 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: and it's going to evaporate over time. And it came 570 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: out black. It was beat to death. Now Ford's answer 571 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: is it's lifetime fluid. And I keep saying, yeah, but 572 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: who's lifetime? What if I outlive the car. Okay, at 573 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: least the front transfer case, the p TU, you could 574 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: drain the differential. I think the guy went out at 575 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: lunchtime and did a little bit more than just had 576 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: a couple of beers. I think he was smoking something. 577 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: The PHIL plug. There's a three eight or I'm sorry, 578 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: a half inch drive Phil plug, a traditional differential, Phil plug, 579 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: removal plug, inspection plug, whatever you wanna call it, in 580 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: the very back of the housing. So you find your 581 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: very flat, thin, easy access, low clearance ratchet and you 582 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: get it out. But there's no way to get your 583 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: finger because they put the cross member, the rear cross member, 584 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: right behind the plug. So you've got a distance of 585 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: about maybe a half of an inch, maybe five eighths 586 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: of an inch. What are they thinking? And there's no 587 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: way that there's no way to drain the fluid, all right, 588 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: So you know what we've done is we've created a 589 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: sucker um you know, copper tubing vacuum pump, a steel drum, 590 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: and we pull vacuum on the pump and we put 591 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: this in with a tube and we we extract that. 592 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: We've we've created a tool for it. But I don't 593 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: understand what they're thinking. Because you know the times that 594 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: I've done this, we haven't serviced a lot of these 595 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: drive lines yet because they are getting older by the way. 596 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 1: Time we have to do this to yours. Tom has 597 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: the fluid comes out black and it's just conventional gear oil. 598 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: And you know what, you can read any fantasy fairytale 599 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: you want. Gear oil wears out. I don't care who. 600 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: I don't care who can. You're never gonna convince me otherwise. 601 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: I see gear oyl come out black and beat. I 602 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: see gear oyl come out brown and foam me. It's 603 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: water contaminated as yellow. What are we doing here? I 604 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: gotta tell you you know what. And you guys have 605 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: been listening to me for years, and you know what. 606 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: I tell it like it is. I think Ford made 607 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: a mistake on this. For a simple what would it 608 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: cost to drill the bottom of the case and make 609 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: the differential drain itself? And then there is a proper tool. 610 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: We do have the mighty vack hook tool that you 611 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: can fill with U up top. You would make it 612 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: a serviceable component. I'll tell you the thing that really 613 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: kind of got me in the front of the rear differential. 614 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: There's a viscus coupling, which is part of the old 615 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: wheel drive operation of the vehicle. And I gotta tell 616 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: you that viscus coupling looks exactly like the one from 617 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: the Toyota CN is that we change from time to 618 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: time from Toyota that viscus coupling is you can buy 619 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: it separately from Ford that viscus coupling, and you can't 620 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: buy it separately. You gotta buy the whole differential is 621 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: it's half the price. Um, you know, it just sort 622 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: of makes you wonder, like, how come Toyota is twice 623 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: as much money as for it is Toyota on an 624 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: ego trip. You know what? We can pick on Toyota 625 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: a little bit too. All good cars, just some of 626 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: the engineering leaves you scratch in your head. Zero the 627 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: crocs coming back to wrap it up right after this, 628 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: Je's really will find my phe night, She's ll find 629 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: my phone, my phone. Welcome back on a Need of 630 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. I want to close out the show 631 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: today with some comments about autonomous cars. Uh comments recently 632 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: from the President's desk. John Galvin from Triple A. He 633 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: talks about today's today autonomous cars are a reality, a 634 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: triple A. We've done research to understand consumer attitudes towards 635 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: self driving cars. We focused on three main areas, driver comfort, 636 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: comfort with the idea of sharing the road with a 637 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: self driving car while walking or riding a bike, and 638 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: if a driver wants a semi autonomous technology in the 639 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: next vehicle. The results of our most recent studies show 640 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: seventy three percent of US drivers are too afraid to 641 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 1: drive to ride in a to drive, right to ride 642 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: hit a fully self driving vehicle, up significantly from sixty 643 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: three in late Additionally, sixty three of adults report they 644 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: would feel less safe sharing the road with a self 645 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: driving vehicle while walking or riding a bicycle. Slightly more 646 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: than a half of drivers want send me autonomous vehicle 647 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: technology in the next car they buy, or at least 648 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: um Yeah, Like it makes no sense. It's it's the 649 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: goofy part is it's all we this generation, you know, 650 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: the twenty years before me, the twenty years after me. 651 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: It's all we know to drive yourself in a car. 652 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: And we've talked about this before. I want to be 653 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: able to control that thing if I'm sitting in it. 654 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: Here's what I want to know. It's gonna happen. And 655 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: this occurred to me this week when I was doing 656 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: some reading and thinking about it. With self driving cars, 657 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 1: are we gonna do away with parking garages? Why would 658 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: you need to park the car? Have to drop you 659 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: off for the theater program, the car come back in 660 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: two hours? Trying to right think about it, it's you know, 661 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: we're not gonna need parking lots anymore. Oh boy, where 662 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: will the future take us? I'm running aading the car doctor, 663 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 1: I'll be right here to take it with me. Good 664 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you everyone, she knows 665 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: to sid