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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, September twenty of twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: Season fourteen, episode number forty four. Welcome to a new

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Speaker 1: edition of The Break, live from the s WBC Morgan

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Speaker 1: Studios at the Star. Great show lined up for you guys. Today,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into the Seattle defense. Dave gave us

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Speaker 1: a great report on the Seattle offense yesterday. Today we

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Speaker 1: go to their defense. We'll talk about how it matches

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Speaker 1: up with the Cowboys offense in the upcoming game. This Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys will take on the Seahawks in Seattle. It is

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Speaker 1: a three twenty five kickoff. I think it is in

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Speaker 1: a low cool time here in Dallas, so you make

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Speaker 1: sure you want to want to catch that. How's everybody

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Speaker 1: doing today? Awesome? Well? Good? Yeah? One time? Is it

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Speaker 1: over there in Seattle? It'll be one twenty five, wake

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Speaker 1: up early, man, Yeah I didn't. I I had that

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Speaker 1: same thing happened yesterday. I was like, oh yeah, three thirty,

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Speaker 1: at six thirty. Probably. Yeah, you'll be like, something's not right.

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Speaker 1: I want to say our bus leaves it like ten fifteen,

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Speaker 1: but he will. Waking up at six Third's not a

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Speaker 1: It'll be three three thirty game, it'll you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. But like, but I'll have less time because

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Speaker 1: for a one o'clock game, we'll be on the move

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Speaker 1: by ten. Yeah, but your body, you will fake it's new.

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Speaker 1: But it's not about my body. It's about like do

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Speaker 1: I have can I go work out? Can I wake up? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It's fine, it's fine. Whatever. This is one of those

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be listening to this, but they might not

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Speaker 1: oh the game, you know, but you have to tell

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Speaker 1: the time. Everybody know somebody has it tattooed? Everybody, if

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Speaker 1: somebody somebody has not everybody, it's twenty I mean, as

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Speaker 1: long as we're off the rails, let me, let's just

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Speaker 1: go the ditch. It's a pet peeve of mine when

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Speaker 1: people like tweet at me, like what times the game,

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Speaker 1: what channels it on? Blah blah. I'm like, it's twenty eighteen. Man,

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Speaker 1: you got a phone. You're tweeting me on a phone

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Speaker 1: to them. I don't know. And all that being said,

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Speaker 1: I still like to give our fans it's fine, extra

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Speaker 1: help if they needed to know that. Cool, all right,

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Speaker 1: everybody good now starting? Everybody good now? Yeah, all right, good, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the injury report from yesterday. There are a couple of

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Speaker 1: wanting to keep him, sorry Derek, wanting to give him

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Speaker 1: it together. But the thing is is they've got an

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Speaker 1: elite player at every level of the defense. You got

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Speaker 1: Frank Clark, who's probably gonna be Tyron Smith's main assignment.

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Speaker 1: You got Bobby Wagner, who, when he's healthy, look is

427
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Speaker 1: one of the best middle linebackers in the game. And

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Speaker 1: then you have a role. I don't want to put

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Speaker 1: McDougald in that category, but your safety play is really great. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Earl as a Hall of Famer. Kill Griffin's pretty good too.

431
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Speaker 1: He's the guy to watch. Earl Thomas Hell yeah, hell yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: I think so, but I'm biased. Got six Pro Bowls?

433
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Speaker 1: How many All Pros? I don't know. Woodson had five,

434
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Speaker 1: and he won three Super Bowls. On that I mean, yeah,

435
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Speaker 1: but he was he was a safety. We're seeing that

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Speaker 1: with John Lynch. John Lynch is getting a little bit

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Speaker 1: more I think love and he's gonna get in I

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Speaker 1: think soon, because it's not just because he's a good safety,

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Speaker 1: but because he was on an all time I mean,

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Speaker 1: he probably will, especially if he if he goes for

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Speaker 1: another team and does well, you know he will. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying if he does, if he does, hey, he

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Speaker 1: will go. And this is something DOESNA doesn't believe in

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Speaker 1: love attraction, But yesterday he gave in and put it

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Speaker 1: out to the universe. You did you did so expect

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Speaker 1: what did I said? I don't remember what I said.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna you're like, you know what, I'm putting it

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Speaker 1: out there, like I don't believe in this crap, but

449
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Speaker 1: if it helps, then it helps. Fine. What did you

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Speaker 1: decide you're gonna do? If it's a it's your call,

451
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Speaker 1: like a cookie or something like that, But you ought

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Speaker 1: to do something a little more elaborate than that. Oh,

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Speaker 1: he'll he'll do something. The frosted cookie cake with like

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Speaker 1: an earl Thomas motif is not enough that. Okay, get me, Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll decorate the cake somehow, but come get me with

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Speaker 1: the et. Do you want cookie cake or ice cream cake? Um,

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Speaker 1: let's go with cookie because you know you don't need

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Speaker 1: to refrigerate ice cream cake or mean cookie? Can we

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Speaker 1: gotta eat it here on the shelf. Yeah, okay, we

460
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Speaker 1: needed to be just a regular cook. This is getting

461
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Speaker 1: out of control and it's your fault. You did this.

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Speaker 1: Here's so I don't know. Honestly, I love Bobby Wagner.

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Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite players, um defensively in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Over the last you know, ten or so years I

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Speaker 1: watched him, and he's dealing with an injury. He does

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Speaker 1: not look like the Bobby Wagner I'm used to watching.

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Speaker 1: He misdiagnosed some plays in Denver. He was not everywhere,

468
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Speaker 1: which is what you expect from those types of guys,

469
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Speaker 1: a lot like what Shaun Lee has looked like like

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Speaker 1: it still better than your average linebacker, but not that

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Speaker 1: just unstoppable force that makes every tackle and diagnoses every play.

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Speaker 1: And that's probably why the Broncos gashed these guys for

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty six yards on the ground. Um.

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Speaker 1: I believe they averaged four point six yards per carry

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Speaker 1: in that game? Yes, four point six? Yeah, now I think,

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Speaker 1: well't go ahead. Do you think that on the Hawk

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Speaker 1: Hour or whatever they have over there? Yeah, you take

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Speaker 1: over with something or like Seattle Crew or whatever they

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Speaker 1: called flang in Seahawks. Yeah, I don't know. Shaun Lee

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Speaker 1: does not look like yeah you Zeke like Zeke is

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Speaker 1: not the Zeki was last year. He doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: that through the first two weeks, which it gets. So

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Speaker 1: what they're saying, the difficult thing is which team, which

484
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Speaker 1: defense is this? Because in Chicago they held the Bears

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Speaker 1: to three point two yards per carry. Jordan Howard nothing,

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Speaker 1: nothing doing, and that was without Wagner. And kJ right.

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Speaker 1: So that leads you to think, like, well, Mitchell Trubisky

488
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Speaker 1: not a very trustworthy quarterback, not a passing game that

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Speaker 1: just absolutely terrifies you. And if that's the case, can

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Speaker 1: they shut your running game down? Exactly right. Sounds a

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Speaker 1: lot like the Cowboys. And that's where you would think

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have to go in this game and be

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Speaker 1: aggressive like they were in the last game and go

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Speaker 1: after their cornerbacks because you don't have Richard Sherman there anymore,

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Speaker 1: So go for go at them a little bit. See

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Speaker 1: what you can have happened. Now. Of course you got

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Speaker 1: to do with the safeties, but I still think you

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Speaker 1: got to be aggressive throwing the ball at least early

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Speaker 1: if you want to have a chance of listening. It's

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Speaker 1: not our weather report. I was looking at that sunny

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Speaker 1: sixty five high for fifteen. I can't wait, bat. I'm

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Speaker 1: packing a hoodie this weekend. It's gonna be awesome. Are

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Speaker 1: we gonna be wearing the beanie? No, it's not beanie

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Speaker 1: Beanie Beanie weathers when it dips below like forty five? No,

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Speaker 1: well no, because I like wearing beanies. Yeah what sixty five? Yes? Stop,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be nice Seattle's Here's here's the thing though,

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Speaker 1: to your point, Derek Shaquille Griffin is a very solid cornerback.

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Speaker 1: He can only be in one spot and the other

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Speaker 1: one is is up for grabs because Trey Flowers is

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Speaker 1: battling an injury he hurt himself against Denver. Nico Thorpe

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Speaker 1: and a Keen King are the guys there. They're not

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Speaker 1: anything special, but like neither of these Cowboys wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: So again and who who steps up into that? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And the other thing too is the Cowboys have a

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Speaker 1: third safety by the name of Tedrick Thompson Um who

516
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Speaker 1: actually played with Cheeto at Colorado. Very good player who

517
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Speaker 1: they brought him onto the field because of their depth issues.

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Speaker 1: They played a lot of three safety dime sets like

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys like to do. Yeah, and he looked really

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Speaker 1: good doing it. So I wonder if they incorporate that

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Speaker 1: into their game plan this week to make up for

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Speaker 1: the cornerback issues. All things being equal, this is as

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Speaker 1: beatable as the Seahawks have looked on defense in a while.

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Speaker 1: Their twentieth overall their nineteenth against the past. They're giving

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Speaker 1: up two hundred and fifty four yards per game, and

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Speaker 1: that's so that's case Keenum and Trubisky, which you'd like

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Speaker 1: to think Dak is not a huge step down from that,

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Speaker 1: right m I know, Case Keenum had a great year

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Speaker 1: with the Vikings. I don't believe in him as like

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Speaker 1: this other worldly quarterback he threw three picks in that

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Speaker 1: game against the Sea does have better receivers. I would

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Speaker 1: think absolutely Emmanuel Sanders did whatever he wanted to against

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks in Week one, and that that's a really

534
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Speaker 1: good point. They're also, I think Chicago's more kin the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys from a standpoint of the quarterback and the receivers.

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Speaker 1: They're giving up one sixteen against the run, which is

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Speaker 1: twenty third. So I don't know. I think this is

538
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Speaker 1: a better defense than the stats say through two weeks.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's still guys on here that

540
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Speaker 1: are used to winning. Earl is a difference maker. Bobby Wagner.

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Speaker 1: I assume he's gonna keep getting healthy and he'll look

542
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Speaker 1: like himself at some point. Frank Clark is probably going

543
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: to sign a big time money deal one of these days,

544
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, so, it would be a

545
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: mistake to take these guys lightly. But I'm interested to see, like, again,

546
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: are they played the run really well against Chicago? Can

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys run the ball if Seattle's committed to taking

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Speaker 1: it away? They did all right against the Giants, but

549
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: they weren't amazing. But I think, as is always going

550
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: to be the case, that's going to be the storyline.

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00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: It's can the Cowboys impose their will? I'm a lean

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Speaker 1: toward thinking they can. To be honest with you, at

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Speaker 1: least to some degree, Like, I think that they can

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Speaker 1: finish this game with their highest rushing total that's not

555
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: that high of a well, well, they've run against his

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Speaker 1: defense and it was better, so so they can. They can.

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Speaker 1: Seattle is not a place where Dallas has been intimidated

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Speaker 1: to run the ball since Zeke has been here, so

559
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: or playing that team, they've him intimidated to run the ball.

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Speaker 1: It's a thing I can't quite Yeah no, and that

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Speaker 1: thank you. That's the perfect segue because I struggle with

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Speaker 1: this and I actually, like I tried to ask people

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Speaker 1: all day yesterday on the record, and off is Wagner's

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Speaker 1: the type of linebacker that kills you if you can't

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Speaker 1: get to him. And that's what Travis Frederick was always

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Speaker 1: so good at it. He was like he was never

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Speaker 1: late to his second level block. He could watch that

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Speaker 1: guy out of the play. They could not do it

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Speaker 1: to Keekley and it killed them. Can they do it

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Speaker 1: to Wagner? But on the flip side, I don't think

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Speaker 1: Wagner looked amazing in week one, so maybe he won't

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Speaker 1: be on the screws as much as he usually is.

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Speaker 1: That's that's something to watch. I think if they can

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Speaker 1: handle Bobby Wagner, I think they'll run the ball like Gangbusters, honestly,

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Speaker 1: And if they can't, it might be tough. So Joe Looney,

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Speaker 1: this is your week. You can Connor Williams and Zach

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Speaker 1: Martin obviously, but I'm not here about him. Yeah, it'll

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Speaker 1: be fine. All right, We're gonna take our final break.

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Speaker 1: company and the aspect. Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: sure they're gonna. I think they're just gonna take your

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Speaker 1: word for it, all right. Yeah. I don't think they

636
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Speaker 1: have like a you know, it's awesome crack reporter or

637
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Speaker 1: anything that's gonna figure this out there, just gonna figure

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Speaker 1: it out Tom john dot com for it's like cowboys go.

639
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Derek didn't get that at first. I didn't. It's it's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Okay, all right, let's get back into this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're taking phone calls eight eight eight five two two

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Speaker 1: nine seven Again eight eight eight eight five five two

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Speaker 1: two nine seven. We got a call from TC. You

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Speaker 1: just have real quickly, just one last thing I might

645
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: have touched on it. But this team doesn't get sacks,

646
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: but they do get takeaways. Three sacks in two games

647
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: not great. Five takeaways in two games pretty good. So

648
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: anyway that is I just broke down at play yesterday.

649
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: Well I'm posting it today. But Errol Thomas, of course,

650
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: And I mean, his instincts are amazing, and that was

651
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: an interception that he got. I forgot what game, But

652
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: the way that he reacts and that's that kind of

653
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: that is pretty scary. When you talk about Dak Prescott

654
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: and his passes, how he throws those, just having earl

655
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: back there and being able to have good instincts and

656
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: good hands, I mean, that could be a really big problem.

657
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder what Dak's trigger finger is gonna

658
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: look like with those two safeties back there. You know,

659
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: we said he was has a tent on in week one.

660
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: Can't I can't imagine he's gonna be just firing the

661
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: ball off. How far are they back there? That's the key,

662
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: that's what running the ball. And the other point of

663
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: that is, I don't I don't think they're gonna be

664
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: playing too deep, right, They're gonna one guy's still gonna

665
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: have to patrol both sides. So if you can create

666
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: enough enough stuff on both sides where he can't make

667
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: a decision until the last second, then that helps you

668
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: a lot. Because they're gonna have that eighth guy in

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00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: the box. There's no doubt about it. Every week the

670
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to see that there will be an

671
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: extra safety in the box or a safety in the box. Um, okay,

672
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: so let's get a phone call. We got a call

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Speaker 1: from TC and DC TC. What up, man, Derek. I

674
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: don't even have to look at the analytics on this

675
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: show because when you and Nikki used to be in

676
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: the hall close that I could call whatever I want

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00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: to day. Yeah, it gets kind of tough, man. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's just kudos to you guys. This is

679
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: AWFU obviously means doing a great job. I'll make it quick.

680
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: I've been watching a lot of film on Dak or

681
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: watching the last couple of games, and if maybe you

682
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: guys can elaborate on this, I think that Dak plays

683
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: his best football really when he stays in the pocket.

684
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: And I know we've been talking about him running and

685
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: being able to throw on the run, and really I

686
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: feel like that's been out of necessity. But some of

687
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: the best throws he made last week and in previous

688
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: games has been when he's been in the pocket he

689
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: could trust it, and really that's when he's been able

690
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: to throw the ball down field. So I wanted to

691
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: see you guys saw the same thing, because I've been

692
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: watching a lot of that and it seems like when

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00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: he escapes, we get all this credit for him throwing

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00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: throwing on the run, and that's great, but I've seen

695
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: some of his better throws have been the ones where

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00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: he stays in the pocket, makes his drops, bigs his reads,

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00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: and throws the football. And I think if he stays

698
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: in the pocket this game, our receivers are gonna look

699
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: a whole lot better because that means he's not taking

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Speaker 1: the side of the field away from himself. And I

701
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: hang up, politic, guys, stick care all right, thanks for call.

702
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. I understand your point the throw.

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00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we think because he runs the

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Speaker 1: ball well, that he throws the ball well when he's running,

705
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I don't know if that's always

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00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: the case, but yeah, he's probably making better throws when

707
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: he stands there. That's that's why they teach good you know,

708
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: footwork and mechanics. But I don't know, I think you

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00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: saw the difference there. He's got to be able to

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00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: run the ball and be a guy that that can

711
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 1: move like that. And typically when he is keeping the ball,

712
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: there's there's really no throw option there. It's just the

713
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: guy's blocking and he's running and he's got fifteen twenty yards.

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00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: So well, I think those are two different conversations though,

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00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: because I I mean, he is remarkably accurate on the run.

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00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, the play he diagrammed for us

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00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: in the offseason with Terrence where he ran right up

718
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage and got it to him.

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00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: Or even training camp, you know, we there was so

720
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: much angst about his downfield ball and when he would

721
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: throw it, well, it all almost always seems like he

722
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: was rolling out and would just fire something off. But

723
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: I think there's a point to that too that he

724
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: doesn't like he's more accurate than he gets credit for

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00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: from the pocket. A lot of times I think, like,

726
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, again, the first throw of the game to

727
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: Hearns on the slant, which it wasn't well defended, but

728
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: it was right where it needed to be the Deontay

729
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Thompson throw, and he did it all through his rookie year,

730
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: Like he can make those throws. My thing is like,

731
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: what happens that messes him up? Though? Like, is it

732
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: when he's not comfortable with his pocket? Does he have

733
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: to feel completely confident in his protection? What is it exactly?

734
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Speaker 1: Because we all know he can look terrible too. I

735
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: don't have a great answer for that. I don't know

736
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: if this, if this is right or wrong, I don't know.

737
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: But going back to that, and we've seen plenty of

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Speaker 1: times where he has stayed in the pocket for a

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00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: while and it gets to a point where okay, it's

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00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: too late and whatever play you make, it's not good.

741
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: But I think that maybe right now he's just needing

742
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: that extra time to think and make the play. And

743
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: when he runs with the ball and throws it, I

744
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: feel that going back to that confidence level is just

745
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: keeping him i movement and just not having him still

746
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: there and just overthinking. I think that as soon as

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00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: he starts running, and from what I've seen so far,

748
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: this is what I imagine, he runs and he keeps

749
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: him active and he still has time to think and

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00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: then make that throw. When he just sits there, he's

751
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: just overthinking too much, in my opinion, and then that's

752
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: when he makes the throw and usually it doesn't turn

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00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: out good. Well, you can't also underestimate the power of

754
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: his ability to give receivers more time, and that happens

755
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: when he gets outside the pocket. So you're talking about

756
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: it yesterday talking about the flip side with Russell Wilson,

757
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: Like when he moves around, those receivers now have instead

758
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: of four seconds or two seconds whatever it might be,

759
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: now they've got nine seconds or whatever the amount of

760
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: time is. It gives you infinitely, I mean a lot

761
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: more time for a receiver to get open. And it's

762
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: much harder for a defender when things break down to

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00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: be able to keep up with a guy, or especially

764
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: if you're playing zone, to kind of know where everybody is.

765
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: And so I think that's a part of it as well.

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00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: Is that for a guy like Dak Let's assume for

767
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: a second you don't think he's the most accurate passer. Well,

768
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: if you can create opportune for yourself to give your

769
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: receivers more time and things start to break down to

770
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: where now they can move around a little more freely

771
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: and try to find open spots. Then it gives him

772
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: a cleaner look. It gives him a bigger window to

773
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: be able to find that guy and be able to

774
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: get the ball to him without all the trash of

775
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: the offensive and defensive line in front of him. So

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00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: I think all those things matter, um and I just

777
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: think personally he is a better quarterback when he's dynamic.

778
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: So give me a little bit of all of it.

779
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: I think there's sometimes I want to see him in

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00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: the pocket. I think there's sometimes I want to see

781
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: him rolling out. I think there's sometimes I want to

782
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: see him running. He's just better when he's dynamic. He's

783
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: much better than he is at just doing one of

784
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: those things exclusively. I completely agree. I just I just

785
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: wonder what it is that causes his inconsistency, Like is

786
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: he thinking too much? Does he not trust his protect protection? Inexperience? Maybe,

787
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: but that doesn't hold a lot of water when you've

788
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: started like thirty three. But I think that again, we're

789
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: at the beginning of his third year. I think quarterbacks.

790
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: I was saying this to Brian the other day, is

791
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: when did Rolmo start like he wasn't playing at this

792
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: in his career, so I think it just takes getting reps. No,

793
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: my point is he was getting reps in practice, so

794
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: they were seeing him in practice and didn't think he

795
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: was ready. But my point is, I think that how

796
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: many reps does a third or second string quarterback get

797
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: in an all fair regular season practice? A regular season

798
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: all fair? But my point still is I think it

799
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: just takes some quarterbacks longer. We forget he was a

800
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Speaker 1: fourth round pick. This was not a guy that was

801
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: coming in NFL ready. No, he wasn't. I don't forget

802
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: that because I'm the first to say, like I don't

803
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: expect him to be Rogers. But you know the throw

804
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: to the throw to Gallop in Carolina, Like I can't

805
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: get over that, Like that's just that's throw any starter

806
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL's got him. He's not an accurate I mean,

807
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: accuracy is not his best thing. We know that. That's

808
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: why he's a fourth round pick right there, because he

809
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: is not the most accurate quarterback out there. He's just not.

810
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: Now he keeps he I don't know if he trusts

811
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: his arm all the time. Too. He's got some some

812
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: throws down the field that he doesn't always take. He's

813
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 1: got to be open. He's playing it safe. He doesn't

814
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: want to throw a lot of interceptions, and he doesn't.

815
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: He protects the ball, he keeps it short. They move,

816
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: they can run. But I mean, I think we've I've

817
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: said this thousand times. You don't he does not going

818
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: to Hawaii and winning the passing contest. You know that's

819
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: not his thing. No, But but that's okay. I mean,

820
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: you can still win that way, right, So I think

821
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: to answer my answer to your question of what happens,

822
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: I just think that it's got to be perfect for him.

823
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: He's not going to take chances. It's drilled in his

824
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: head not to throw interceptions. And sometimes that's why he's

825
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: overthrowing deep, he's overthrown out of the back of the

826
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: end zone because he's not going to do that, especially

827
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: down in the red zone. And that's okay, that's okay, Yeah,

828
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: it's okay. It's okay for now, for now. And that's

829
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: the other point. I mean, I guess that's the point

830
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: of what I'm saying is that I think right now

831
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: we have to remember where he is in his development.

832
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Speaker 1: Right that doesn't mean he can't someday be a really

833
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: accurate passer. He's not there right now. No, you know that,

834
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Speaker 1: But but that doesn't mean he can't be at some

835
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: point in your passing game. I think that they're going

836
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: to realize that you have to have an elite player

837
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: in your passing game, whether or not you have, you know,

838
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: just a pretty good quarterback and then pretty good receivers.

839
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna get it done. I think

840
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: you need to have one of those. You need to

841
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: give him. Yeah, if Aaron Rodgers is gonna have average receivers,

842
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: that's fine and not average, but I mean he makes

843
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: them good. Tom Brady the same thing. But if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have the flip side of that and he lies

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Speaker 1: gone down in his career a little bit, you got

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Speaker 1: a guy like Odell Beckham, so you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: give him if he's the quarterback. I think you need

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Speaker 1: to have some elite players in there. Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I like that, you know, I do wonder. I wonder

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Speaker 1: talking about Russell Wilson this week. I wonder at this

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Speaker 1: point when Russell, because Russell started playing from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if at the beginning of his third year,

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Speaker 1: were you seeing the same player as Dak or were

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Speaker 1: you seeing a different player? And I don't know that,

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Speaker 1: but I wonder. He's definitely gotten much better. He's got

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Speaker 1: he's got a ton better than what he was early

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Speaker 1: in his career. But I don't know at what point

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Speaker 1: he made that ascension to where it literally started where

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Speaker 1: you go in to play them and you knew he

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Speaker 1: would he could beat you with his arm. Give me,

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Speaker 1: I don't know when that transition happened. Give me the

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Speaker 1: week off from all my other duties and I figure

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Speaker 1: it out, go watch tape. This would have been the

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Speaker 1: week to do it. Yeah, I can't fit it into

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Speaker 1: my schedule and give him credit because you look at

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Speaker 1: other guys that have come in and they're more athletic,

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Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks. They kind of took the league by storm,

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Speaker 1: and then the defensive coordinators caught up. They definitely caught

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Speaker 1: up to to RG three, They caught up to Kaepernac,

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Speaker 1: you know, in a way, and I think that they've

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Speaker 1: kind of caught up with Dak. But Russell Wilson won

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Speaker 1: another another level and now he improved his game in

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Speaker 1: his passing to the point where you know he's he's

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. He really is.

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Speaker 1: He really is. And I remember the very first pass.

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Speaker 1: I remember the game he played them up there. In

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Speaker 1: his very first pass, I was like, this guy's gonna

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Speaker 1: beat you. This guy can't beat you. This guy, I

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Speaker 1: mean was it was like in Seattle win that game,

880
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Speaker 1: but twenty points. But his his very first throw, I

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00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: thought hit a cloud. It was just like, this is

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Speaker 1: I think it was all yeah, it started raining right

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Speaker 1: then and there, just like that. I remember being really

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Speaker 1: embarrassed that my guy, Matt Flynn lost the starter job

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Speaker 1: to Russell that year. I was like, a third round pick.

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Speaker 1: Come on, I didn't know where he was gonna. Where

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Speaker 1: is he now? He's out of football? Yeah he went?

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Speaker 1: Was he out? After two years? After that, he's been

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Speaker 1: I know, he jumped around to another team. He went

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Speaker 1: back to Green Bay and made a little more money,

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Speaker 1: and and it was like, I'm good, Hey, nobody's made

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Speaker 1: nobody's made more money off less starts in the history

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. That's the way he doney. Is it

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Speaker 1: him for sure that I don't know if it's for sure,

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Speaker 1: but he made a lot of money off Kevin Cobb.

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Speaker 1: Both of them made a ton of money all right,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you join us. We're back tomorrow. We will

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Speaker 1: give you guys, get you guys ready for the game.

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Speaker 1: We'll tell you what we expect to happen. We'll give

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Speaker 1: you our picks for the game to then for Nick even,

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