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Speaker 1: What do we have, Crystal? Indeed, we do lots of

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Speaker 1: good stories to get to you this morning. President Biden

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Speaker 1: had some rather choice words for Fox News's Peter Doocey.

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Speaker 1: We will bring you the details of that. Julian Massange

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Speaker 1: actually wins a significant court battle in the UK. They're

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Speaker 1: going to allow him to continue challenging his extradition. So

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Speaker 1: we've got all the details for that. Some new troubling

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Speaker 1: reports about all of the ways in which our civil

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Speaker 1: really over the top reaction from some commentators on The

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Speaker 1: So we will break all of that down, and we

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Speaker 1: wanted to start with Ukraine. But first we are having

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Speaker 1: a little bit of camera yes shoes this morning. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: please bear with us. Usually see some switching shots something

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Speaker 1: there's a problem here in the student. We'll get it

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Speaker 1: sorted out for a Thursday's show. But if you notice

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Speaker 1: something a little bit different, that's what it is. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with Ukraine. This is very important. So the Pentagon

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Speaker 1: press conference yesterday separate and almost at the exact same

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Speaker 1: they are preparing at the hot at higher alert heightened

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Speaker 1: readiness for the preparation of eighty five hundred troops to

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Speaker 1: some facts on these preparations that will reinforce our commitment

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Speaker 1: our readiness. Secretary Austin has placed a range of units

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Speaker 1: the number of forces that the Secretary has placed on

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Speaker 1: Eighty five hundred personnel. That's a lot, crystal. That's almost

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Speaker 1: exactly what we had in the latter days of the

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Speaker 1: Obviously the Russians are the ones who sparked this, but

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Speaker 1: how we respond and all that matters a lot too. Yes,

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Speaker 1: unification of Germany. So now you have the Ukrainians saying

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Speaker 1: The same thing actually happened during the Cuban missile crisis

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Speaker 1: Cold War Crystal. And to your point about how volatile

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Speaker 1: Right track twenty two percent, track seventy two percent, Income

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Speaker 1: falling behind cost of living sixty one percent, saying even

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Speaker 1: thirty going up seven. I want to meet those people.

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Speaker 1: Polarization will only grow seventy Is there a threat to

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Speaker 1: democracy seventy six percent? These are dire numbers that income

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Speaker 1: falling behind cost of living I'd be talking about that

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Speaker 1: every single day. You know, we recently looked at a

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Speaker 1: poll which said that voters are very aware that corporate

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Speaker 1: monopolies are using their pricing power in order to gouge them. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: break them up. You can actually use the doj Anti

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Speaker 1: Trust division. You could be talking about this every day.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, gas fiz up fifty percent, almost fifty

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Speaker 1: percent of inflation is a gas alone. Get the Saudi

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Speaker 1: king over here tomorrow, call Opek together and basically say

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Speaker 1: we will sanction the living hell out of you. We

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Speaker 1: will make sure that none of you ever get weapons

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Speaker 1: ever again unless we start seeing gas flowing now today

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Speaker 1: some in the heads of Exxon Chevron BP all these

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Speaker 1: people and be like, what do I gotta do? Guys,

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Speaker 1: let's go. I don't get this. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: the president of the United States. You can call anyone

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Speaker 1: on earth and they will answer in two minutes. You

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Speaker 1: can get these people to come to you. You can

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Speaker 1: use the power of the presidency and of the people

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Speaker 1: who have bestowed an enormous amount of power in your

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Speaker 1: hands to help them. And you don't even have the

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Speaker 1: appearance of helping them. That's why I see that, You know,

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Speaker 1: stupid son of a bitch, question thing or answer and

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Speaker 1: retort as so dumb because what he's doing is these liberals,

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Speaker 1: resistance liberals on Twitter are like, oh my god, this

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Speaker 1: is awesome. Yeah, go ahead and please them and see

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Speaker 1: how that works out for you. And you know, it's like,

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Speaker 1: why is it so difficult in order to conduct yourself

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Speaker 1: in a way that people can at least see and

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Speaker 1: say you're doing something, you're at least trying. That's what

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Speaker 1: the words of those people in that NBC News interview

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Speaker 1: we're saying. They're like, yeah, we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: problems right now, supply chain and cost and I don't

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Speaker 1: feel like this election stuff. You know, I keep telling

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Speaker 1: you the voting wrestling. Nobody cares if you can't pay

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Speaker 1: your bills. And if you've pointed this out, what's the

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Speaker 1: point of filibuster reform if you can't pass anything. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all of this is completely useless. And then on top

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Speaker 1: of all of that, Crystal is COVID, which is of

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Speaker 1: course broadering the entire economy, and the trust ratings for

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Speaker 1: the government agencies Fauci and others has plummeted. Put this

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Speaker 1: up there too. On COVID statements trust has fallen, and

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Speaker 1: the do not trust ratings have risen for the CDC,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci and even states governors. You know, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: Trump's numbers also fell during that time. Well, everyone not

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Speaker 1: doing nothing. He That's the one silver lining here is

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Speaker 1: that he still is less trusted on COVID than everyone else.

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Speaker 1: The problem for Democrats is that COVID isn't the number

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Speaker 1: one issue anymore. And so while you know, when COVID

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Speaker 1: was the dominant issue in people's minds, they had an

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Speaker 1: upper hand because they had been more responsible. Trump wildly irresponsible,

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Speaker 1: making stuff up, saying privately, yeah, this is going to

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Speaker 1: be a horror show. It's nothing like the f and

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Speaker 1: then publicly being like, it's just like the flu, No

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Speaker 1: big deal. But the bottom line is people are more

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Speaker 1: interested now in their jobs and inflation and being able

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Speaker 1: to pay the bills, pay the rent, pay the mortgage,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is that's ultimately on their plate, and they

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Speaker 1: feel very concerned about being able to do that. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, when you look at the numbers, the

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Speaker 1: bank accounts have been depleted. Anything that people got during

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Speaker 1: the stimulus phase is gone. It is long gone now.

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Speaker 1: The savings rate is lower than it was pre pandemic.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, there's been tight labor market. People have

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Speaker 1: been able to leave their jobs, they've been able to

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Speaker 1: get higher wages, they've been able to go on strike

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Speaker 1: and win concessions. All of those things are great, but

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter a whole lot when costs are going up

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Speaker 1: so much that it's undercutting any wage gains that you

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Speaker 1: ultimately are able to see. And so you have this

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Speaker 1: very negative sentiment across the country. And I think your

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Speaker 1: point about you know, the poll we saw that said

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Speaker 1: a majority of voters do believe correctly that monopoly, corporate power,

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Speaker 1: corporate greed is a big part of what's driving inflation.

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Speaker 1: Use that go out there, use some of that you know,

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Speaker 1: dumb son of a bitch energy, and direct it towards

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Speaker 1: the corporate plutocrat, like use the power of the pulpit

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Speaker 1: to call these people out. And by the way, this

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Speaker 1: is an area where you actually, as the executive do

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Speaker 1: have a lot of power. You've put good people in

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Speaker 1: place with Lena Khan and with Jonathan Kanter, as Matt

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Speaker 1: Stoller has talked about, So use them and actually have

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Speaker 1: a credible threat that you're going to break them up,

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Speaker 1: or actually break them up if they don't stop price

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Speaker 1: gouging consumers and get costs under control. And I still

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Speaker 1: come back to people don't expect you to have a

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Speaker 1: magic one. They don't expect the president to be able

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Speaker 1: to fix all of their problems with the stroke of

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Speaker 1: a pen or anything like that. But they don't see

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Speaker 1: you try They All they see is you making a

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Speaker 1: bunch of excuses for your failures, rather than looking at

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Speaker 1: the chessboard and saying, Okay, here's the pieces, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a tough landscape because we've got these narrow margins,

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Speaker 1: we've got mansion, we've got cinema. But here are the

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Speaker 1: things that we can do. And here are the people

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Speaker 1: and the institutions that I'm going to call out. They

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Speaker 1: don't see you fighting for them. And so as they

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Speaker 1: look at their incomes dwindling and worry about how they're

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Speaker 1: going to make rent and make mortgage and buy groceries

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Speaker 1: and fill up the gas tank next month, they don't

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Speaker 1: see you out there trying to make their life any easier.

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Speaker 1: And that's why Democrats are doomed. I mean, this was all. Look, Historically,

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Speaker 1: midterms are tough for the partying power. That is reality.

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Speaker 1: That was reality going in. But this type of disaster

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Speaker 1: was totally totally avoidable if they had actually played their

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Speaker 1: cards right. And you know, on the other side, to

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Speaker 1: be losing to the Republican Party at this point is

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Speaker 1: just utterly pathetic athetic. They don't have to promise anything,

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Speaker 1: They just have to be an opposition to whatever the

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Speaker 1: hell this is. That's what makes them so awful. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: they came in with the easiest layup in history. You

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Speaker 1: can blame COVID all you want. They brought the mass back,

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Speaker 1: destroyed their destroyed their credibility, kept the restrictions, didn't forcefully

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Speaker 1: push back on the school lockdowns. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: you have the supply chain crisis getting completely out of control.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't done anything. How hard is it to put

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Speaker 1: a hard hat on and go to the port of

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Speaker 1: La Crystal? I mean, am I a genius for figuring

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Speaker 1: this is basic politics? One on one? I truly don't

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Speaker 1: get it. How hard does it to sign executive orders,

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Speaker 1: call out companies from the podium, summon them to you

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Speaker 1: have actual meetings. Same with the governors. Every American, every

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Speaker 1: way of American life is becoming more miserable. I keep

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Speaker 1: focusing on that and they're not doing anything about that

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Speaker 1: or even trying, and people are punishing them for that,

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Speaker 1: and they deserve it. I don't know what else to say.

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Speaker 1: So let's move on to from a fake assault on

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Speaker 1: the freedom of the press against Jeter Dusey to a

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Speaker 1: real one in the person of Julian Assange. Significant development yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and throw this tear sheet that we

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Speaker 1: have up on the screen from NBC News. So this

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Speaker 1: was a victory for Assage and for advocates of a

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Speaker 1: free press. We can leak Soassange can take extradition appeal

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Speaker 1: to UK's top court. In December, the High Court in

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Speaker 1: London overturned a lower court's ruling that Assange should not

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Speaker 1: be extradited due to mental health concerns. I want to

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Speaker 1: read a little bit more from the New York Times here,

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Speaker 1: because this is it's a little bit complicated what the

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Speaker 1: ruling actually was, and I don't have deep knowledge of

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Speaker 1: the UK judiciary system either, so I just want to

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Speaker 1: read what the New York Times or what they said

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Speaker 1: Lord Chief Justice Ian Burnett of the High Court in

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Speaker 1: announcing the ruling, and a brief Court appearance on Monday

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Speaker 1: morning endorsed a further appeal of the case to the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court on one narrow issue, which is the timing

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Speaker 1: of when the United States provided assurances that mister Assange

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Speaker 1: would treated humanly in American prisons. The Biden administration had

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Speaker 1: given those assurances to the British government when the case

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Speaker 1: was already before the High Court, after a low court

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Speaker 1: had considered the case and ruled that American prison conditions

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Speaker 1: were too harsh to extradite mister Assange, citing his mental

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Speaker 1: health and the risks that he could be driven to suicide.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of you guys know the backstory here.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you know the prosecution of Assage, which started

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Speaker 1: under Trump, has been continued under Biden. Grave threat to

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Speaker 1: press freedom, the top threat I would say in the

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Speaker 1: world to freedom of the press. Biden rejecting the Obama

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Speaker 1: dooj's decision that hey, we can't. We would like to

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Speaker 1: charge this guy, but we can't charge him without also

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Speaker 1: implicating the New York Times and every other publisher and

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Speaker 1: journalist out there. So listen, We're gonna make assign his

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Speaker 1: life miserable. We're not going to be nice to the guy,

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Speaker 1: but we don't feel like we can prosecute him. Trump

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Speaker 1: comes in takes a much more aggressive stance, and Biden

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Speaker 1: has continued that prosecution so been seeking his extradition from

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Speaker 1: the UK. That effort to extradite him hit a bit

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Speaker 1: of a speed bump for the US government when a

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Speaker 1: UK court ruled that the conditions here in US American

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Speaker 1: prisons are so terrible that Assange would be at risk

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Speaker 1: of grievous harm and potentially suicide. His mental health has

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Speaker 1: been so compromised by these many years of isolation and

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Speaker 1: being holed up in the embassy and now being in

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Speaker 1: prison that they worry very much that he would survive this.

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Speaker 1: In having spoken, of course, both of us to his brother,

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Speaker 1: he says, outright, they are trying to kill him and

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Speaker 1: they may well succeed. So what this decision means is

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Speaker 1: not really on the merits of the case against Assange,

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Speaker 1: but they're saying, hey, US government, you, after we ruled

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Speaker 1: against you and said American prison conditions are too harsh,

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Speaker 1: you gave us all these assurances which are basically meaningless,

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Speaker 1: and they've got a million loopholes in there, But anyway,

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Speaker 1: give that you gave us these assurances, but they came

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Speaker 1: too late. They came at the wrong time when the court,

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Speaker 1: when this case was already before the High Court. And

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Speaker 1: that is the narrow issue that they are looking at

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Speaker 1: that they're saying, okay, we will allow you to continue

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Speaker 1: this process to appeal to the UK Supreme Court Britain

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Stella Morris, Julian's fiance, spoke out yesterday, claiming

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Speaker 1: a victory here, but reminding us all that there is

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Speaker 1: no real victory so long as Julian continues to be

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Speaker 1: in prison. Let's take a listen to what Stella had

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Speaker 1: to say. What happened in court today is precisely what

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Speaker 1: we wanted to happen. The High Court certified that we

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Speaker 1: had raised point of law, point of law of general

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Speaker 1: public importance and that the Supreme Court has good grounds

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Speaker 1: to hear this appeal. The situation now is that the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court has to decide whether it will hear the appeal.

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Speaker 1: But make no mistake, we want today in court, but

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Speaker 1: let's not forget that every time we win, as long

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Speaker 1: as this case isn't dropped, as long as Julian isn't freed,

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Speaker 1: Julian continues to suffer. For almost three years, he's been

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Speaker 1: in Belmarsh Prison and he is suffering profoundly day after day,

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Speaker 1: week after week, year after year. Julian has to be

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Speaker 1: freed and we hope that this will soon end. So

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Speaker 1: important Note there now the Supreme Court, this is what

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Speaker 1: happens next, gets to decide whether they are going to

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Speaker 1: consider Julian's appeal on this one narrow grounds and listen.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line here is the Biden administration, the Merrick

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Speaker 1: Garlands doj They could stop this prosecution at any point.

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Speaker 1: They claim to care so much about freedom the press.

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Speaker 1: And you were talking earlier about the things that Russians

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Speaker 1: and Chinese throw back at us, like, oh, you've got

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Speaker 1: such a great democracy there. This is one of those

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Speaker 1: issues that any foreign adversary can look at and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: freedom the press. Tell me about Julian Assange and the

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Speaker 1: way that you have him locked in person. I forget

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Speaker 1: which prime minister. I think it might have been Turkmenistan.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those Central Asian countries who pushed

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Speaker 1: back against a BBC journalist who asked her about freedom

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Speaker 1: of the press, and he goes, you want to tell

656
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Speaker 1: me about freedom of the press, he's like, your own

657
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: country is locking up Julian Assange right now, Azerbaijan. Yeah, sorry,

658
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Speaker 1: that was it was Ozerbra. Apologies to the turkmenistanis out there.

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Speaker 1: But what I found always interesting about those is that

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Speaker 1: you have look. Obviously, there's no comparison necessarily between like

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Speaker 1: hundreds of people in one but when that one exists

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Speaker 1: and it's such a clear one, then it's very clear

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Speaker 1: what you should do. And all of these journalists out there,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jim Acosta apparently has his own show on CNN.

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Speaker 1: Cristal recently found out about it, and it's amazing to

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Speaker 1: me because the way he conducts himself, it was so

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Speaker 1: clear that all of this freedom of the press stuff

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Speaker 1: during the Trump years it was a farce. It was

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Speaker 1: too enriching himself. He wrote a book, right Attack on

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Speaker 1: the Press Theater in order to get his own television

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Speaker 1: show on CNN, very low rated television shore. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: I can't wait until the ratings come out. But what's

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Speaker 1: important to understand there is, at the very same time

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Speaker 1: as all that was happening, there were real attacks on

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Speaker 1: the press. There were those journalists who were imprisoned in

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Speaker 1: me and mar in Burma. Nobody talked they in the

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Speaker 1: White House Press Corps. It's like they didn't exist because

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00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: they're narcissists. They don't actually care about the press. They

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Speaker 1: care about freedom, their access to power, and protecting that

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Speaker 1: at all costs, and when somebody challenges that. And ultimately

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Speaker 1: Julian's crime, his real crime was exposing Hillary Clinton. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest. That is what turned the entire international

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Speaker 1: intelligentsia against him. Before that he was a hero for

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Speaker 1: standing up against Iraq, I mean ritual badly because Obama.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't prosecute it, definitely true. But they

686
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Speaker 1: did not like this man either. I mean the spy

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Speaker 1: and the things that you know, he and his family

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00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: have talked about the way that they had this just

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Speaker 1: insane surveillance of him. They certainly wanted to prosecute. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they made his life well as well because of him

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Speaker 1: spilling the secrets of the powerful. I mean, that's really

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Speaker 1: what it comes down to. And this is this is

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Speaker 1: an attempt to send a message to journalists and whistleblowers

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Speaker 1: everywhere that if you are going to expose our dirty

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Speaker 1: laundry and our deep ugly secrets, we are going to

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Speaker 1: make you pay, and of course the people who's wrongdoing

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Speaker 1: he actually exposed, there's never any accountability for them, just

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Speaker 1: like Stephen Donziger, who just spent his nine hundredth day

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Speaker 1: on home confinement, just as it is for him. The

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Speaker 1: whistleblower we talked to yesterday, Matt Johnson, targeted by the

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Speaker 1: FBI for exposing animal abuse at an Iowa pig farm.

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Speaker 1: It is always the whistleblowers who pay the price, and

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Speaker 1: they make sure that they do it so people will

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Speaker 1: be too afraid to come forward and do the right thing.

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Speaker 1: And sadly it's highly effective. Yeah, no, I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, most people won't

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Speaker 1: say a word about this, And you know, for those

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Speaker 1: of you who might be skeptical, I've said it here before.

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Speaker 1: It's very simple. The way he would be prosecuted would

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Speaker 1: criminalize journalism, and it would almost certainly be used as

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Speaker 1: a pretext by the DOJ to come after people like us,

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Speaker 1: and to come after any anti establishment person who reveals

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Speaker 1: real crimes of the regime, and so to protect that.

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Speaker 1: Our founders gave us the right and we need to

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Speaker 1: protect it at all costs. That's that is exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And you know what this on a personal level, what

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Speaker 1: they have done to this man is abhorrent and you know,

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Speaker 1: his fiance, his family. All they want is for him

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Speaker 1: to be able to come home and live a normal life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Okay, let's move on. In terms of

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Speaker 1: continuing with the theme of the FBI and the expansion

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Speaker 1: of the national security state, this is one of those

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Speaker 1: stories which got zero attention by people in the press

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Speaker 1: because they mostly agree with it, but which is one

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Speaker 1: of the most outrageous expansions of surveillance power on elected

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Speaker 1: officials that we have ever seen. So let's go ahead

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Speaker 1: and put this up there on the screen, which is

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Speaker 1: that the Capitol Police is examining background social media feeds

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Speaker 1: of some who meet with lawmakers. The little known new

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Speaker 1: practice by the department's intelligence analysts since January sixth is

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Speaker 1: highly controversial given the civil liberties concerns it raises, and

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Speaker 1: what they point to is that newly obtained written communications

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Speaker 1: show that the Capitol Police are examining the social media

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Speaker 1: feeds of people who are not suspected of crimes. These

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Speaker 1: include people and staff and constituents who are being meeting

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Speaker 1: with members of Congress elected officials. Capitol Police is like, hey,

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Speaker 1: what's the problem, Crystal. I mean, what's the problem. We're

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Speaker 1: just compiling, you know, publicly available information and dossier's on

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Speaker 1: private citizens who are not suspected of crimes whatsoever. And

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Speaker 1: another thing I want to always raise, Capitol Police is

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Speaker 1: not subject to the Freedom of Information Act because it's

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Speaker 1: a branch of Congress, and Congress exempted itself from the

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Speaker 1: Freedom of Information Act, which means all of this can

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Speaker 1: only be obtained by eliks. We have no transparency, no

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Speaker 1: oversight into the Capitol Police except for members of Congress themselves.

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Speaker 1: They are one of the worst agencies post January sixth,

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Speaker 1: because here's the thing who failed more than anybody on

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Speaker 1: that day, those idiots. They didn't have their riot shields properly,

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Speaker 1: they didn't prepare. If they had one hundred more people,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing looks completely different. So they fail, and

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Speaker 1: then we give them billions of dollars and they expand

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Speaker 1: offices all across the country, and now they're using their

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Speaker 1: spying powers and intelligence analysts to spy on members of

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Speaker 1: Congress to compile dossiers on private citizens. I'm sure I

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Speaker 1: have I'm not sure if you have. I've been to

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Speaker 1: the capital since January sixth? Are they looking at my

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Speaker 1: social media fee? I mean, look, go ahead, you know, fine,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. But is there a file on us

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Speaker 1: for meeting with people who are members of Congress? I mean,

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Speaker 1: what is the bar? Shouldn't they have to have a

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Speaker 1: warrant or at the very least when they're obtaining and

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Speaker 1: compiling this type of information, shouldn't they have to justify

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Speaker 1: why they're doing so, specifically to people who are walking

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Speaker 1: inside of the building. It's an outrageous breach of civil liberties,

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Speaker 1: and it may actually be in violation of federal law

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Speaker 1: as well. One of the people they quote in this

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Speaker 1: article is a woman named Rachel Levinson Waldman. She's Deputy

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Speaker 1: director of the Liberty and National Security Program at the

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Speaker 1: Brennan Center for Justice. She says the practice is of

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Speaker 1: questionable legality. It's a recipe for creating dossiers on people,

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Speaker 1: and added that federal law protects against quote collecting and

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Speaker 1: keeping of data about people without any specific an authorized person.

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Speaker 1: The fact that there is no transparency in this agency

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Speaker 1: makes it all the more troubling, because this is just

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Speaker 1: what we found out from elaks of what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, sifting through and potentially creating dossier's

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Speaker 1: on anyone who effectively has contact with Members of Congress.

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Speaker 1: By the way, members of Congress didn't know they were doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had no idea. They knew that they were asking

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Speaker 1: for lists of people that they were meeting with. That

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Speaker 1: they knew. But when at least one member of Congress

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Speaker 1: was presented with this information about what they were actually

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Speaker 1: doing with those lists of people and compiling this kind

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Speaker 1: of information, he outright called for resignations because he was

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Speaker 1: so troubled by the implications of private citizens, congressional staffers,

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Speaker 1: people who are surrounding our elected representatives, people who are

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Speaker 1: just going in for a meeting to express their concern

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Speaker 1: about some issue back home or whatever is going on.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of delegations that come

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Speaker 1: to Washington from back home in their home state to

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Speaker 1: raise issues about whatever it is, some infrastructure issue, maybe

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Speaker 1: some schooling issue. So for all those people to be

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Speaker 1: subject to this kind of invasive scrutiny and compiling of

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Speaker 1: dossier's on who they are and what they care about,

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Speaker 1: it's deeply troubling. And of course the bigger picture here

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Speaker 1: is what we've always been afraid of, is that January

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Speaker 1: sixth would be used as a justification for furthering the

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Speaker 1: police state, for furthering the surveillance state. And this is

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Speaker 1: another indication that that's exactly what has happened in an

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Speaker 1: agency where we are able to get so little of

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Speaker 1: a picture of what they're actually doing. The other thing

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Speaker 1: we've learned is how many of these government agencies have

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Speaker 1: like intelligence units. The Post Office, like what happen it

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Speaker 1: shifting through people's mail, gathering infolks, right. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is extremely troubling just the number of government agencies who

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Speaker 1: are apparently spying on American citizens. Remember we did that

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Speaker 1: whole story on the DHS secret Unit, which then was

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Speaker 1: spying on the reporter dot caught. I mean, this is

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00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: like out of a CIA, you know, novel of meeting

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Speaker 1: at a bar and gathering intel and with a fake ID.

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Speaker 1: This is complete the bonkers. And the reason why this

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Speaker 1: matters is that it is a clear use of the

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Speaker 1: intelligence services to at the very least pressure and provide

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Speaker 1: fear in the hearts of people who might be meeting

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Speaker 1: with members of Congress. And you know, look, this is

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Speaker 1: these are elected representatives. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: what they do is the expression of the will of

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Speaker 1: the people. You may not like some of them, Marjorie Taylor,

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Speaker 1: green and lower ind berber and scum squad member, whichever

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Speaker 1: side you're on, that's fine, But these people were still

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Speaker 1: elected to the people's House. And to have the Capitol

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Speaker 1: Police say, under the guise of oh, well, we're protecting them,

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Speaker 1: to go and spy on the people who they're meeting with,

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Speaker 1: you can see so clearly how this could get out

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Speaker 1: of hand. And we've already had the example. Remember there

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Speaker 1: was a left wing podcaster who was visited by the

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Speaker 1: California Highway Patrol at the behest of the Capitol Police

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Speaker 1: for I don't even know what it's like. He liked

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Speaker 1: a tweet which alleged, according to interpretation, it's up to interpretation,

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Speaker 1: was supposedly threatening to AOC again, a left wing podcaster,

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Speaker 1: and they visited him. They're like, hey, why did you

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Speaker 1: like that tweet? How about none of your freaking business?

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Speaker 1: Why did what? Excuse me? I didn't threaten anybody, as

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Speaker 1: he rightfully said, and yet he's being intimidated essentially by

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Speaker 1: the regime forces. I mean, this is something that you

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Speaker 1: see in third world countries. I mean, you're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to criticize lawmakers or if you're in the opposition party.

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Speaker 1: Whenever one party is involved, then what happens? I mean,

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Speaker 1: are you, let's say that there was an effort to

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Speaker 1: undermine the Patriot Act and you are meeting with as

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Speaker 1: a member of Congrand Paul, some libertarian member whatever, Thomas

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Speaker 1: Massey is meeting with people who want to take down

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Speaker 1: the Patriot Act? Is there going to be a dossier

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Speaker 1: compiled on those people and those activists who enter the Capitol.

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Speaker 1: This gets very dicey. What if I, as a United

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Speaker 1: States citizen media personality, want to go and start lobbying

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Speaker 1: for a Freedom of Information Act in order to apply

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Speaker 1: to the Capitol police? Are they going to compile a

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Speaker 1: dossier on me for threatening they're right currently in order

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Speaker 1: to remain silent. You can see so clearly how this

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Speaker 1: can be easily abused. It's an outrageous breach of power.

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Speaker 1: It deserves a lot more attention than it's getting. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of problems in this country, as we

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Speaker 1: document on this show daily, and a lot of those

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Speaker 1: problems contributed to the ugly events of January sixth, rather

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Speaker 1: than deal with those problems, which would be hard and

857
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: which would be uncomfortable for the donor classes of both parties. Instead,

858
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: this is the direction they always go in, which is,

859
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: rather than dealing with this underlying mess under the surface,

860
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: let's just try to clamp down. Let's actually give ourselves

861
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: and the deep state and the police state more power.

862
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: Let's address it in that way, and then guess what happens.

863
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: Those attempts will always fail. I mean, you clamp down harder,

864
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: you surveil more people, you have the FBI conjure up

865
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: more kidnapping plots, and people become more discontented because you've

866
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: never dealt with those issues that are under the surface.

867
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: You turn people against each other. Then you end up

868
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: with an even worse January sixth that justifies an even

869
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: further escalation of violation of CIMI liberties. It is an

870
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: ugly cycle that we're in right now, and so that's

871
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: why we try to highlight little pieces of information like

872
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: this that come out that show you the direction that

873
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: this government is going in. Yeah, that's right, Okay, let's

874
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: go ahead and move on. Let's talk about the view

875
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: our favorite, my favorite block, the e bloc, the media block,

876
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: So we can't play what exactly happened on Bill Mahers

877
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: show because HBO is very litigious whenever it comes to

878
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: copyright and all that. It's all try and describe it

879
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: to you. Barry Weiss appeared on a Real Time with

880
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: Bill Maher in which she had a clip which went viral. Now, personally,

881
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was all that special. I mean

882
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: credit to her, but she's basically been saying what we've

883
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: been saying here for a long time, what a lot

884
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: of people have been saying. She said, quote, I'm done.

885
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm done with COVID. She talked about how she was

886
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: wiping down her groceries she watched Tiger King. She said

887
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: that the vaccines were obviously given as the off ramp

888
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: in order for stop government and do safeguards. You get

889
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: the vaccine, you don't get back to normal. Now it's

890
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: been two years, we don't get back to go. You

891
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: find out cloth masks don't work. You realize you can

892
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: show your vaccine passport at a restaurant still be asymptomatic

893
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: and be carrying omicron. You realize, most importantly, this is

894
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: going to be remembered by the younger generation as a

895
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: catastrophic moral crime. I agree with all of that. Congratulations Barry,

896
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: and I guess for getting it out into our mainstream audience. Well,

897
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: the mainstream is freaking out at this liked suggestion that

898
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: they are actually the crazy ones. First, she was attacked

899
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: by the view in just an incredible clip where they

900
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: basically suggest we'll be wearing masks forever, just like we

901
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: have terrible tsa theater. Let's take a listen, you know, listen,

902
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: nobody on the planet really wants to go through this.

903
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: This is not something we're doing because it's you know,

904
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: sexually gratifying. This is what we're doing to protect our families.

905
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: And you don't have to do it. But stay away

906
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: from everybody, because if you're the one who's not paying

907
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: attention and your confidence sneezing, you don't want to, then

908
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: stay out of the public. Man, this is not Nobody

909
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: wants this. I don't want it. And I think he's

910
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: forgetting that people are still at risk who cannot get vaccinated,

911
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: people who can't get the little kids under the age

912
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: of five, or people with health conditions. How dare you

913
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: be so flippant? Man? They got it they're over it, like, yeah,

914
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: a relationship over to the post mask part, because I

915
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: think there's a prudence we've learned with the masks, the

916
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: hand sandita hand sanitizing, that kind of like nine to

917
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: eleven with flying is always going to be here. Now

918
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: there's a new normal. Oh it's a new normal. No,

919
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: it's not. You can live that way if you want.

920
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: The rest of us are not going to and the

921
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: vast majority of people don't want to be as miserable

922
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: as these people are. I don't know how many times

923
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: we have to do this. This cudgeli that they try

924
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: and use with kids is outrageous. COVID is not a

925
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: threat to the vast majority of children in this country.

926
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: The flu is actually much worse for them and even

927
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: for the general population. This is a simple fact. Vaccines

928
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: turned COVID into the flu. We should celebrate that we

929
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: have created a gigantic scientific miracle. We have vaccinated and

930
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: now have natural immunity in a huge portion of the

931
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: US population. Adult population which was at risk, those who

932
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: are at risk age sixty five at older, go get

933
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: a booster. Data has come out that shows that their

934
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: hospitalization rate is at the same for twenty five year

935
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: olds or whatever. Whenever you get your booster shot, great,

936
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: go ahead. The rest of us we don't have to

937
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: live like in complete misery. And it's just amazing to

938
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: me that something as anadine is Barry's message is being attacked.

939
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: She's pro vaccine. It's not enough for these folks. So

940
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't have any issue with what this lady, I

941
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: think her name is Sarah something, what she has to say. Yeah,

942
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: she indicates that for her personally, she plans on always

943
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: wearing masks and stuff. Fine, yeah, I don't have a

944
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: problem with that. I mean, people can be kind of

945
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: gross and we have a lot of germs. If you

946
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: want to wear a mask around like, fine, I don't.

947
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: I have no issue with that. I do have an

948
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: issue with the weaponization, as you said, of kids. Listen,

949
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: we all in the normal range of American life care

950
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: about kids. We care about our kids, we care about

951
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: other people's kids. We care about doing whatever we can

952
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: to keep people's kids safe. At this point, we have

953
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: data that shows that the interventions with kids, specifically that

954
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: we took, we're much more damaging to them on balance

955
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: than the virus was. That's not to erase the several

956
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: hundred kids who perished from this disease, and there's no

957
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: making up for that. But we weigh costs and benefit

958
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: and risk in our lives all the time. And again,

959
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: when you look at school shutdowns, when you look at

960
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: what the American Academy of Pediatrics said was a national

961
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: crisis for young people in this country in terms of

962
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: their mental health, when you look at addiction, when you

963
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: look at depression, when you look at learning loss, when

964
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: you look at the delayed IQs that we've seen, all

965
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: of these things paint a very compelling picture that there

966
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: was greater harm to kids from closing schools and even

967
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: from you know, the mass There's not great evidence that

968
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: masks helped to stop the spread in schools. There's not

969
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,959
Speaker 1: even good evidence that keep that closing the schools helped

970
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: to stop the spread of the virus at all. Okay,

971
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: so this very easy and cheap talking point of I

972
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: guess you just don't care about the kids is really

973
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: just unfair and untrue. One thing I do want to

974
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: say about Barry's comments that the younger generations will look

975
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: at this as a moral crime. I'm not sure that's true.

976
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: And here's why, Because there was just pulling out in

977
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: New York Times this morning showing that even though younger

978
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: people are by the data, much less at risk for COVID,

979
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: they're actually much more in favor of coronavirus restrictions than

980
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: older people, all because there tend to be on the

981
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: left of the spectrum versus older people tend to be

982
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: on the right of the spectrum. They also, in their

983
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: personal lives are more afraid of COVID than people who

984
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: are older, which is again doesn't fit with the science.

985
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: It only makes sense when you look at the fact

986
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: that you know, there's a partisan skew in terms of

987
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: how people ultimately feel about the virus. So you have,

988
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: on the one hand, folks who are on the right

989
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: side of the spectrum who tend to underestimate their risk

990
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: of do ease and how severe it could be, especially

991
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: if they remain unvaccinated, And then you also have people

992
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: who are overestimating how vulnerable they are. That's ultimately leading to,

993
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, to a lot of fear in their personal

994
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: lives and in some instances bad public policy as well.

995
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: It's so hard to find anywhere where these things are

996
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: just like acknowledge, where you're actually trying to sort through

997
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: the science in a real way, not an ideological way,

998
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: when you're really trying to weigh the costs and the benefits.

999
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of partisan thinking on both sides

1000
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: of this issue that's frustrating. See to me, the moral

1001
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: crime is that young people are afraid. I don't think

1002
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: they should be afraid. I think this is a terrible

1003
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: thing in order to be afraid whenever you're young. Well,

1004
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: the media is a lot of blank that. I mean,

1005
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: they've really done a poor job of explaining clearly the

1006
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: relative levels of risk depending on where you are in

1007
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: society and when you paint with a blanket brush. Then

1008
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: if you're a person who's you know, consuming that type

1009
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: of media, it makes sense that you would internalize that

1010
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: as I personally need to be afraid, even though in fact,

1011
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: your own personal risk profile is much lower than someone

1012
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: who say, old, overweight, unvaccinated. And yet what is the

1013
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: nuance that we hear over on CNN. Well, take a

1014
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: listen to the same reaction you know, doctor Reiner to

1015
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: you first, because you did call out Barrie Weiss on Twitter,

1016
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: you told her to grow up. Tell us why you

1017
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: know you had such a negative reaction to her comments. Well,

1018
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: first of all, her behavior was childish, which is why

1019
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: I told her to grow up. She ranted about how

1020
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: inconvenienced she's been bought by this pandemic and how it's

1021
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: not real anymore. Well, I'll tell you that for the

1022
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: ten thousand Americans who died last week, and for their families, yeah,

1023
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: it was damn real. And for the people who struggle

1024
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: to keep them alive, and for the thousands and thousands

1025
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: of healthcare workers who have been doing this NonStop for

1026
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: two years. Her behavior was childish and and selfish. Look,

1027
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: this pandemic has gone on, you know, in large part

1028
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: because the virus has mutated, and twenty five percent of

1029
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: the American population, of the adults in this country, have

1030
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: decided not to get vaccinated. Now, she may be frustrated,

1031
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: you know that. You know, life isn't normal, But we

1032
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: are in the hottest point of this pandemic in the

1033
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 1: last two years. Now, thankfully in places like New York

1034
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: and DC and Boston, the virus is starting to recede.

1035
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: But you know, we've lost eight hundred and sixty thousand people,

1036
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: and I'm afraid that, you know, by Saint Patrick's Day,

1037
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: We're going to be staring at a million people dead

1038
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: in this country and to hear, you know, somebody who

1039
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: has such a large platform like ms Weiss sort of

1040
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: say she's done with it. It's not real. It's a

1041
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: pandemic of the bureaucracy. No, this is a very real pandemic,

1042
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: and a million people in this country will have paid

1043
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: the price. First of all, Bari, why like you don't

1044
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: know how I pronounced their name. It ain't hard Breonna Keeler. Second,

1045
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: this doctor, this is such a disingenuous argument. The vast

1046
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: majority of those debts occurred when people did not have

1047
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 1: access to the vaccine. And then many of the people

1048
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: who are dying themselves are the people who have per

1049
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: the CDC, who are vaccinated up to four comorbidities. And

1050
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: this will sound callous. Something was going to take those

1051
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 1: people out. Okay, cold can take you out when you're

1052
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: that sick. The flu can take you out when you're

1053
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: that sick. You're in a very vulnerable state when you're

1054
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: that immunal compromise. I feel sorry for you, but we

1055
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: don't shut society down whenever it comes to that. And

1056
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: especially in what he's saying around the healthcare workers and

1057
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: the weaponization of that. Nobody is denying that it isn't

1058
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: hard to work in the healthcare profession, but that's also

1059
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: your job. We do not shut down all of American

1060
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: society because ICU capacity it goes from sixty five to

1061
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 1: seventy two percent. We simply don't do that. And as

1062
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: you said, there is no consideration here of any of

1063
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: the risks. Do you hear or anywhere on national television

1064
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: about how recent developmental studies of children find them two

1065
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: standard deviations below the normal baseline of the general population.

1066
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: Two standard deviations. That is a catastrophe. Ask any person

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Speaker 1: who's a teacher right now, they say kids are more unruly.

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Speaker 1: They are. You know, a lot of them have been

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Speaker 1: not socialized properly for years. Their learning disability has increased,

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Speaker 1: Math scores are plummeting. Testing and you talk about this

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Speaker 1: all the time. Sometimes clothes and it's open and then oh,

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Speaker 1: now he needs a test because he was exposed to somebody,

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Speaker 1: and it costs me five hundred dollars or whatever out

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Speaker 1: of pocket. This is madness in terms of and I

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Speaker 1: didn't even talk about the adults. In terms of suicide, fentanyl, alcohol,

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Speaker 1: drug use I can go on forever. There's none of

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Speaker 1: these that are being reflected in this piece, and I

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00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: just find it so dramatically disingenuous. Crystal. What I find

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Speaker 1: gas Lady about what he does here is, on one hand,

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Speaker 1: he starts off by expressing so much concern for the

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Speaker 1: I think it was ten thousand people that he said

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Speaker 1: died in the week before, and then he quickly switches

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Speaker 1: to and we know from the data that those people

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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly were going to be unvaccinated people, because if you're

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Speaker 1: you're pretty well protected against hospitalization and death unless you

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Speaker 1: have just a massive number of cohorbidities, as you said,

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Speaker 1: So we know overwhelmingly those ten thousand people were going

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Speaker 1: to be largely unvaccinated. So he starts by expressing all

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Speaker 1: these concerns, all this concern for them, and then he

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01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: turns around and is you know, really blaming and sort

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Speaker 1: of shaming this very same population. And it's like, okay, well, listen,

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Speaker 1: we need to have a perspective at this point of adults.

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Speaker 1: Some certain percent it's actually smaller than you think, have

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Speaker 1: made a decision. I'm not getting any of these Yeah,

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Speaker 1: his data is wrong, It's not twenty five so he

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Speaker 1: said twenty five percent. I suspect that is the number

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Speaker 1: who have gotten two doses, because if you look at

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Speaker 1: people who have gotten at least one dose, it's eighty

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Speaker 1: five percent of the adult population. So you're actually only

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Speaker 1: talking about fifteen percent of the adult population, which is

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Speaker 1: not great but not terrible, who have decided not to

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Speaker 1: get any dose at all. And at a certain point,

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Speaker 1: I think you have to take the perspective that say

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Speaker 1: Jared Polus has and said they've had their opportunity, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we're going to continue to encourage them to

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Speaker 1: get vaccinated because that'll be the best thing to protect them.

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Speaker 1: But especially since the government's not coming in with any

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Speaker 1: more checks or backstop and business or any of that.

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Speaker 1: Any war, we have to move forward and based on

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Speaker 1: the data and the science, look at what the relative's

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Speaker 1: risk is for these different populations and make appropriate decisions.

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Speaker 1: So I just think that they use facts in a

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Speaker 1: way that is very gaslighting and disingenuous. Ultimately, and I

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01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: do have to say, I mean, I think the most

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Speaker 1: compelling argument on the side of people who are like

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01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: in favor of stricter pandemic down some and these sorts

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Speaker 1: of things is the overwhelming burden on the hospital staff,

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Speaker 1: because I do feel bad for those healthcare workers who

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Speaker 1: have been through hell and there have been so many

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Speaker 1: resignations and the staffing levels are down all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if that's where the issue is, let's

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Speaker 1: flood the zone with resource. Let's pay people more. How

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Speaker 1: about that to get more nurses and doctors into these facilities.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, part of why we have

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Speaker 1: these shortages in terms of beds available and in terms

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Speaker 1: of capacity is because of our for profit healthcare system

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Speaker 1: that has led to all of these hospital consolidations, so

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Speaker 1: that we are in this kind of a vulnerable situation

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Speaker 1: when we really need to have that capacity. And to

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Speaker 1: the extent that most of them are exaggerating. And I

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Speaker 1: know this sounds callous. I'm sorry, but you know they

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01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: never tell you, I see you. Capacity is supposed to

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Speaker 1: be like sixty five percent. These things are expensive to run.

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Speaker 1: So when they're like it's it's seventy five, it's like

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Speaker 1: ten percent above baseline. I mean, in many cases, we

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Speaker 1: do not see triage care being vast majority across the country.

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Speaker 1: Though way that this is being exact is just ridiculous

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01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: to the nurses out there and the people. I stand

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Speaker 1: with you. I want you to get paid more. I

1140
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: think it's outrageous that you know your hours are ridiculous

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01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: and that there's not people there. But that has a

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01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: very easy solution as well. And so you know, if

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Speaker 1: also the government has not expressed any interest in doing

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Speaker 1: anything about that, and in that situation, what are we

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Speaker 1: supposed to do. I'm not going to be held hostage

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01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: because I see you capacity as ten or fifteen percent

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Speaker 1: above baseline, and neither should everybody else. And I'm relatively

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01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: much more free than most people. I can't even tell

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Speaker 1: you the stories that I hear all the time. I've

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Speaker 1: tweeted about this as Johns Hopkins kid was a medical

1151
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: exemption from the VACS booster shot from his doctor, and

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01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: the university rejected it and said, we're going to expel you.

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Speaker 1: I know people who work office jobs required to wear

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01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: one mask and then put a kN ninety five over

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Speaker 1: it and then still come into work so that the

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Speaker 1: bosses can monitor them. Oh, and they're not allowed to

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01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: eat in the cafeteria. This is nuts. It's we can't

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Speaker 1: live this way. And you know, to see the see

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Speaker 1: the backlash against that by these freaks who are sitting

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01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: at home thinking that we should all be like in

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Speaker 1: a penal colony because you know, things are harder for

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Speaker 1: them at work, and then exaggerating risks to children. As

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Speaker 1: you can tell, I'm getting hopped up, but it really

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Speaker 1: when I see what happens to these young kids, it

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01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: drives me crazy. Their lives are being ruined, and it's

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Speaker 1: because of people like this. One last note here, the

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Speaker 1: polling says that especially in terms of kids in schools,

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Speaker 1: even though our opinion may not be what you often

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Speaker 1: here on these channels, it's like two thirds to one

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Speaker 1: third in recognition that they're more concerned about learning loss

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Speaker 1: from their kids not being in school than they are

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Speaker 1: a risk of hitting sick in school. So and that's

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Speaker 1: with the media, you know, being wildly irresponsible with helping

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Speaker 1: people understand where the real risks lie. So well, you go,

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Speaker 1: all right, Crystal, what are you taking a look at? Well,

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Speaker 1: we all know what it's like to see a housing

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Speaker 1: bubble burst, decades of pain and dislocation that destroy economic

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Speaker 1: lives as well as human lives. If you're my age,

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Speaker 1: you know what it was like to see a dot

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Speaker 1: com bubble burst, what would it be like to live

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Speaker 1: through multiple massive bubbles bursting all at once. We might

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Speaker 1: be facing down exactly that type of horrific economic cataclysm

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01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: right now. Corney one analyst who predicted the past two

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Speaker 1: crashes to a tee. Before we get to that, however,

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Speaker 1: here's the latest. Markets are on track to post their

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01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: worst months since the bottom fell out during the pandemic

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Speaker 1: back in March of twenty twenty. Yesterday was a total

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01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: roller ghoster. The Dow dropped one thousand points before somehow

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Speaker 1: mounting a comeback at the end of the trading day

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Speaker 1: to close in positive territory. Most analysts are predicting that

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Speaker 1: this set off is going to continue. Why is this

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Speaker 1: happening now? Well, as we've been warning here, the FED

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: is pulling the plug on the stock market party. Jerome Palace.

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01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: FED has signaled that they plan on hiking interest rates

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Speaker 1: and trying to climb down from the massive spending bench

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01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: that propped up both the debt and equity markets. I'll

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Speaker 1: have more to say Wednesday after they meet, but with

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Speaker 1: inflation continuing to mount, not expect them to change course.

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Speaker 1: Markets are adjusting to the potential end of the free

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Speaker 1: money era and the potential end of the policies that

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01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: provided a multi trillion dollar safety net for the richest

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: among us. That all means there will be pain. It's

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01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: just a question of how much, how widespread, because while

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01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: the gains were concentrated in the hands of a few,

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01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: the losses could well devastate millions. And one guy who

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01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: was right about both the dot com bubble and then

1207
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: write again about the housing bubble, is now saying we

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Speaker 1: ain't seen nothing yet. Jeremy Grantham, British investor who has

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01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: a near impeccable record where such things are concerned, is

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Speaker 1: sounding the alarms. He believes the US right now is

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Speaker 1: facing down not one, not two, but three and a

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Speaker 1: half superbubbles, all set to burst with potentially catastrophic consequences.

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Speaker 1: In a post titled Let the Wild Rumpus Begin, Grantham

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01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: lays on his case that we are currently in super

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Speaker 1: bubble territory in housing, in stocks, in commodities, and a

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01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: half bubble in bonds. Effectively, when the Fed was handing

1217
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: out free cash, there was a rush for the rich

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: to put it somewhere anywhere. Really. This led to record

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01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: breaking stock gains, massive spikes, and asset prices in everything

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Speaker 1: from art to wind to yachts to fancy trees to

1221
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: NFTs to fake real estate in the metaverse closer to home,

1222
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: while it led to huge spikes and home prices, with

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01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: investors rushing into buy single family homes and pricing ordinary

1224
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: home buyers out of the market altogether. Crypto has been

1225
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: another major beneficiary of this exuberance. The huge spike in

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Speaker 1: cryptocurrency value coincided with the Fed's extraordinary moves to prop

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Speaker 1: up the market during COVID, and now that the FED

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Speaker 1: has signaled their intent to change course, crypto was among

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Speaker 1: the first assets to see a huge drop. Bitcoin jumped

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Speaker 1: up three hundred and five percent back in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: under the easy money regime, but over the past few

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Speaker 1: months it is down by about half overall. In just

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Speaker 1: one day, the cryptocurrency market lost one hundred and thirty

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01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: billion dollars of its value. According to Grantham, the signs

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01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: of these superbubbles right now are everywhere. Housing costs are

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Speaker 1: at the high multiple family income in history, meaning that

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01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: homes are less affordable than they have ever been before,

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: including before the Great Housing bubble crash. The stock market

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01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: soared during the pandemic, even as millions filed for unemployment

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01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: and pulled the family minivan into a modern day breadline,

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01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: fueling a belief that nothing could ever cause the market

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01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: to fall, and commodities like oil, metals, and food are

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01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 1: broadly over priced, leading to inflation and stressing real incomes

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01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: right as the bottom could be set to fall out.

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Speaker 1: Take a look at this. Grantham also argues that we've

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Speaker 1: already run through the traditional life cycles of the superbubble.

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Speaker 1: He writes that in past superbubbles, shortly before they burst,

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Speaker 1: they actually go through a period of acceleration, which we

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01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: saw mostly in twenty twenty and early in twenty twenty

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01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: one when the Nastaq skyrocketed one hundred and five percent

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01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: from its COVID low. Next, the most speculative assets, things

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01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: like crypto begin to fall, even as more traditional blue

1253
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: chip stocks continue to perform well. The final phase, he

1254
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: describes is the psychological dynamic that I mentioned before, is

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01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: sort of quasi relie just belief that the market can

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01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: only possibly go up by the way. That was kind

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: of true so long as the FED was pumping trillions

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01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: into the markets, but now that music has stopped. Looking

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01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: at history, previous superbubbles have all ended, of course, with

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01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: economic devastation for the masses. These bubbles caused the Great Depression,

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: they cause the massive Japanese crash that led to the

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: Lost Decades, the dot Com crash, and the Great Recession

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01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: after the housing bubble crash. If Grantham is correct, we

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01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: are in an even worse position than any of those

1265
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: scenarios because we're dealing with superbubbles in almost everything. Of course,

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Speaker 1: there are massive, unpredictable political consequences to this possible calamity

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01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: as well. Think about how the housing crash led to Occupy,

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01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: led to the Burning campaign, and on the other hand,

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01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: led to Trump in a nation that at times has

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01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,879
Speaker 1: been a literal tinderbox. Some of those outcomes I considered

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Speaker 1: to be actually good. But under no circumstances should you

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Speaker 1: cheer for this kind of chaos. Does the state of

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01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: the country today seem good to you? This is why

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01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: the accelerationist argument fails. You are much more likely to

1275
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: get a worse Trump and a more dangerous insurrection attempt

1276
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: than you are to get a better Bernie actually able

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Speaker 1: to win and rebalance the scales. As Grantham writes, looking

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Speaker 1: back in a decade or two. If bad things have

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Speaker 1: happened to our democracy, the huge surgeon income and wealth

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Speaker 1: inequality of the last fifty years, as CEO income moved

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Speaker 1: from about twenty five times the average workers to about

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty times will have carried the largest

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Speaker 1: share of the blame. Just think about all the horrors

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Speaker 1: that we track here today, the core wrought deaths of despair,

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Speaker 1: fears of a civil war, and increasing comfort with political violence.

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Speaker 1: So much of the acute pain and misery in the

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Speaker 1: nation right now goes right back to the financial crash.

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Speaker 1: What would another even worse crash look like piled on

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Speaker 1: top of all of that compounding instability. It is not

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Speaker 1: a thing that I wish to find out. To be sure,

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Speaker 1: while Grantham's got a good track record, he could certainly

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Speaker 1: be wrong this time. The FED could lose its nerve

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Speaker 1: and go back to inflating the asset bubbles instead of

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Speaker 1: pricking them. That's kind of a dubious thing to wish for.

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Speaker 1: By the way, maybe the market moved through this correction

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Speaker 1: without major calamity, and we continue muddling through. I sincerely

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Speaker 1: hope that this man, as prophetic as he has been

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Speaker 1: at times in the past is dead wrong this time around.

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Speaker 1: I literally can't imagine what might become of the nation

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Speaker 1: if he is in fact correct. One of the reasons

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Speaker 1: I love working with Cristal is that she inspires me.

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Speaker 1: She points things out, or phrases and phases things in

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Speaker 1: a way that makes me think. And something that she

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Speaker 1: said yesterday is something that I was really excited about.

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Speaker 1: For those of you who are Premium members and watch

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Speaker 1: our reactions, it's something I just could not get out

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Speaker 1: of my head afterwards. Her monologue was titled Cuban twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four, and it pointed out all of these obvious things.

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Speaker 1: Is another billionaire really what we need right now? No?

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Speaker 1: Probably not. Will Mark Cuban really be our savior from

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Speaker 1: a policy perspective, No, But here's what she wrote, quote,

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Speaker 1: our politics are so stuck and hopeless between two parties

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Speaker 1: owned by corporations and costumed on one side, and fake

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Speaker 1: identity nonsense on the other side, addled and conspiracy nonsense.

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Speaker 1: I'm for literally anything that would help to break that

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Speaker 1: system apart. That's the part that I'm obsessed with right now.

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Speaker 1: Is something I think is increasingly true. Right now. We

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Speaker 1: are so condemned on both sides of political leadership, it

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Speaker 1: seems nearly impossible to imagine any sort of real democratic

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Speaker 1: consensus to be forged from our options. Take a look

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Speaker 1: at that poll that Crystal sided. It sums everything up

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Speaker 1: right now. On the question of whether Americans want Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump to run again in twenty twenty four, twenty seven

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Speaker 1: percent say yes, seventy two percent say no. On the

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Speaker 1: question of Joe Biden running for office, it's nearly identical.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight percent say yes, seventy percent say no. And

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Speaker 1: yet those are our two most likely nominees for president.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say they don't run though. On the Democratic side,

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Speaker 1: that means Kamala Harris is the presumptive nominee, or Pete

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Speaker 1: Budaje Edge Kamala the least popular vice president in modern

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Speaker 1: American history, more so than the guy who couldn't spell Frickin' potato.

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Speaker 1: On the Republican side, I don't know who it would be,

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Speaker 1: but whomever it would be would be somebody who had

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Speaker 1: to endorse Trump's stop the Steal nonsense. In both case,

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Speaker 1: the problem as this, they would not be capable of

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Speaker 1: actually uniting Americans. While I believe at its core, America's

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Speaker 1: problems can only be solved by the policy. The problem

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Speaker 1: that we have right now is the inability to even

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Speaker 1: arrive at correct policy outcomes. We have a political incumbency

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Speaker 1: that shrouds their corporate friendly policy in the veil of

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Speaker 1: the culture War. Joe Manchin and Kirson Cinema have only

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Speaker 1: upside to gain from opposing Joe Biden, no matter the issue,

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Speaker 1: because just being opposed itself to the most unpopular president

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Speaker 1: in a long time is popular. Or when Trump was

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Speaker 1: in power, Democrats could justify and do literally anything because

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Speaker 1: they convinced their base they were opposing fascism. In this reality,

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Speaker 1: we have only one option, throw out the entire existing

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Speaker 1: class of politician and do something crazy. This was the

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Speaker 1: rationale of Trump twenty sixteen. Now, look, it didn't work

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Speaker 1: out as planned, but it was a gateway to our future.

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Speaker 1: Our current class of politicians are obsessed with becoming celebrities

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Speaker 1: with large Twitter followings who do podcasts instead of governing

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Speaker 1: to that, I say, okay, fine, screw it. If this

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Speaker 1: is the way it's going to be, Let's get some

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Speaker 1: real celebrities who are both likable but also have the

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Speaker 1: capacity at least to unite us, at least in rhetoric alone,

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Speaker 1: and discard the existing political class to the dustbin of history.

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Speaker 1: There is a reason that during Trump's time in office,

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Speaker 1: the only person he was truly afraid of running as

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Speaker 1: a Democrat was Oprah Winfrey. That's also why I listened

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Speaker 1: with great interest to a recent conversation Joe Rogan had

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Speaker 1: with Jim Gaffigan where he described the state of politics

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Speaker 1: and he mentioned who he thinks would win. He said

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Speaker 1: it was Dwayne the Rock Johnson, and I agree. I

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Speaker 1: remember many of you thought that I was cringe months

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Speaker 1: ago when I said that the Rocks should run for president.

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Speaker 1: But this is why I see a world where basic

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Speaker 1: popularity and rhetoric could solve a lot of our problems.

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Speaker 1: Take Black lives matter. Imagine The Rock saying something like this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: black lives matter. Also we need cops boom culture war

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Speaker 1: literally solved. You need somebody so famous, so ubiquitous and

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Speaker 1: above the fray that they are capable of connecting with

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Speaker 1: people on a visceral level. It's very difficult, and don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong, from a policy perspective, it may not

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Speaker 1: work out. The Rock has recently been cringe posting with

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Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos. You could say this about the guy though,

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Speaker 1: He's just as positive in a way that we don't

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Speaker 1: even recognize anymore in our politics. He loves America. He's

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Speaker 1: known by almost every parent in this country because of

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Speaker 1: Moana and other children's movies. He's also one of the

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Speaker 1: most followed people on all of Instagram. Now you might say, well,

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Speaker 1: what is he going to do on that? I would

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Speaker 1: tell you this, what are any of these people going

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Speaker 1: to do? The ultimate state of politics right now is

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Speaker 1: that we are having existential fights to get politicians to

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Speaker 1: do the most basic stuff. Take Glenn Youngkin, for example.

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Speaker 1: It was a herculean effort just to get him into

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Speaker 1: the office so that he could push back against unscientific

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Speaker 1: efforts to force children to wear masks in schools. That

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Speaker 1: is all politics are going to be about for three years,

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Speaker 1: mass on planes or not massed in schools, or not

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Speaker 1: let people live, impose a biomedical police state on them.

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Speaker 1: Under those types of politics, the stakes are both very

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Speaker 1: high and also not at all. Perhaps I am too

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Speaker 1: much of a nihilist. I think we need to blow

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Speaker 1: up the entire political system. And for the FBI agents

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Speaker 1: monitoring this. No, I don't mean literally from the ashes

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Speaker 1: rise the phoenix. It is not something that happens quickly.

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Speaker 1: It's something that takes years to shake out Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: and Bernie Sanders' campaigns in twenty sixteen. It opened the

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Speaker 1: door to allow people like Crystal and I into the

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Speaker 1: semi mainstream at least have the ability to engage on

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Speaker 1: the same argumentative plane as the establishment. Now, something like

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Speaker 1: that just didn't exist before. But that was not enough

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Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons. The next step is having

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Speaker 1: somebody who becomes president who literally has no connections to

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Speaker 1: the existing infrastructure and blows apart the very idea of

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Speaker 1: what is possible. When reading history, a great paradigm shift

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Speaker 1: only comes once in a generation. Sometimes it takes a

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Speaker 1: great war or a global economic depression. We've already had

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Speaker 1: that once in a century event, and yet our change

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Speaker 1: still has not come. People are waiting. They are literally

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Speaker 1: more fed up than they have ever been. They are

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Speaker 1: crying out for something else. I believe that something else

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Speaker 1: could be the people's champ. It's a great campaign phrase.

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Speaker 1: And I'll quote a man who changed the entire way

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Speaker 1: that I once thought about politics. What the hell do

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Speaker 1: we have to lose. Hey, guys, you might notice a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a crazy day here in the studio.

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Speaker 1: We weren't able to film reactions to each other because

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Speaker 1: we literally only have one working camera. There's problem with graphics,

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Speaker 1: there's a problem with the guests. So unfortunately, we've rebooked

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Speaker 1: a Ratigan and some others that we had who are

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Speaker 1: lined up. We will still have all of that content

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Speaker 1: for you. We wanted to make sure that we could

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Speaker 1: still get the show out on time. We're really sorry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm very sorry. To the people who are paying subscribers

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Speaker 1: who we promised you those reactions. You will get that.

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Speaker 1: We'll do something a little bit extra for you on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: We'll make sure that you guys have everything that you need. Again,

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Speaker 1: deepest apologies, but we'll get it done. Yeah, we'll make

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Speaker 1: it right for you, guys. Thanks for baron with us.

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Speaker 1: Today is just one of those or the equipment didn't

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Speaker 1: want to cooperate. And apologies also to Dylan rad Again,

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Speaker 1: we've got him rebooked for next week so we'll get

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Speaker 1: to hear his thoughts, which I'm very interested in hearing

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Speaker 1: what he thinks about what's going on in the markets

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Speaker 1: right now. He's always incredibly insightful and often oppression. So

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Speaker 1: we love you guys, thanks again for bearing with us,

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Speaker 1: and we will get it all worked out and ready

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Speaker 1: to go for Thursday. We'll see you, We'll be done.

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Speaker 1: We promise. We'll see it Thursday. Enjoy