1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Hello 2 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: Whipsmarti's today's guest is someone I am so honored to 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: have on the podcast. Secretary Jennifer Granholm is with us today. 4 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: She is an incredible leader and politician. She serves as 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: the sixteenth United States Secretary of Energy. She is a 6 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: member of the Democratic Party and previously served as the 7 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: Attorney General of Michigan. Big Love for Detroit as always. 8 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: Secretary Grandholm was a member of the presidential transition team 9 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: back for President Barack Obama before he assumed office in 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and after leaving public office, she 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: took a position at UC Berkeley. Authored a book called 12 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: a Governor's Story, The Fight for Jobs in America's Future. 13 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: With her husband, Daniel mulher. She became the host of 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: the War Room with Jennifer Granholm in twenty seventeen. Was 15 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: a CNN political contributor, and after President elect Joe Biden 16 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: announced his intention to nominate Grandholme to head the United 17 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: States Department of Energy in twenty twenty, she was confirmed 18 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: by the US Senate in twenty twenty one. This woman 19 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: is so incredibly accomplished, so unbelievably smart, and she is 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: going to walk us through some of the incredible things 21 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: that our president is doing for America in terms of energy, 22 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: getting us to a green energy future, and all of 23 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: the incredible innovation that is taking place along the way. 24 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: I cannot wait for you to hear from her. Let's 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: get to it. 26 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm just so happy to see you today, Secretary grand Home. 27 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: It's a wild thing to join you on zoom and 28 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: think about how long we've known each other now, and 29 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: as you know, I'm just your biggest fan, and I 30 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: really appreciate you for taking the time today. 31 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Well, that is such a nice thing 32 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: for you to say, and such a nice thing for 33 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 3: us to be able to have a conversation that hopefully 34 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: opens up some windows to the folks who follow you 35 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: and gets them excited about you know, the planet and 36 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: climate and our clean enerview future and the president. 37 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: Yes, all of that, Yes, I mean, and you have 38 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: been so hard at work in this world. I mean, 39 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: my gosh, I was going to say in the state 40 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: and then the country. You know, there's a million words 41 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: bouncing around in my head because you really have focused 42 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: on you know, climate and energy and democracy and you know, 43 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: ways to make the country a better place. But if 44 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: we rewind, you know, back to before the beginning of 45 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: your political career, you know, before you were out trying 46 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: to make sure that we have you know, great energy 47 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: and great jobs in the future. When you were just 48 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: a little kid, were you into the idea of public service. 49 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: Did you know you wanted to hold you know, office 50 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: someday or did you have a totally different idea? 51 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: And for your listeners, I was governor of Michigan, so 52 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: that's why you asked this question. Yes, and elected as 53 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: attorney general too. But I did not at all think 54 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: that I was going to be running for office. But 55 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: I did feel like you know, and my parents same thing. 56 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: They are. 57 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: They felt their immigrants. I'm an immigrant from Canada, and 58 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: they felt so my dad in particular, felt so lucky 59 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: to be in this country and they came to try 60 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: to make their way and they felt like, you go 61 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: to this country, you've got to give back and you've 62 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: got to participate, and you know, you have a duty 63 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: right And so I didn't know what form that was 64 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: going to take. That was definitely in my head, is that, 65 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: you know somehow, And it also just became so consuming 66 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: for me to be able to follow politics and to 67 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: imagine that I could help somebody get elected or I 68 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: could help a cause. So I was young. It was 69 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: really my parents who gave me this notion that you're here, 70 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: you should be grateful and you should act beyond self. 71 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: M I love that that is. That is something that 72 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: I think my parents really instilled in me as well. 73 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: And part of me is wondering talking to you if 74 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: it's because you know, we've got the Canadian portion of 75 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: my Canadians. 76 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: They're so but they I mean, who knows. You can't 77 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: generalize about country. This is true with so many people 78 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: here too. But I feel grateful to have had that 79 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: infusion of knowing that we are here to put, you know, 80 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: to leave this camp sites cleaner than we found it. 81 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: I love that well. 82 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: I think there's something really powerful. 83 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: You know. 84 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: My dad came down with a lot of his family 85 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: from Canada, and my mom's family came over from Italy. 86 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: But I think wherever you come from, when you have 87 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: that history of immigration in your family, that the passion 88 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: for the pursuit of the American dream is big. 89 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so real, It is so real. It's just 90 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: such a sense of you know, of gratitude to be 91 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: in this great nation where you know you can be, 92 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: you know, where leaders are not born of kings, but 93 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: they are born of just common people who decided they, too, 94 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 3: are going to make a better situation. You know. For me, 95 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: I didn't see myself as putting myself out front like that. 96 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: I was, you know, I married this great guy, he's 97 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: from Michigan, and Michigan after law school, and I thought 98 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: he was going to run for office. He kind of 99 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: thought he was for office too, and you know, we 100 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: but we worked in school politics, and we worked in uh, 101 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: you know, politics at the county level, et cetera, at 102 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: the state level. But when I was working behind the scenes, 103 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: and then you know, I had been I was, I 104 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: had been a federal prosecutor. I had worked at uh, 105 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: you know, in courts, and the Democratic Party of my 106 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: case came to me and said, do you want to 107 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: run for Will you run for attorney General? And at 108 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: that point I was like what me way? And I 109 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 3: had just I had two little kids and my husband 110 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: I talked about it. We drove to Chicago from Detroit 111 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: and on the drive, you know, he was like, come on, 112 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: I got the kids. 113 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 4: This is you know, the door only opens once you 114 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: gotta do what you gotta do it, And honestly, I 115 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: would never have done it if I didn't have such 116 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: a great partner, such a great, incrediblyless partner. 117 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: So all of that getting said, I feel fortunate to 118 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: have had the journey I've had, and certainly feel fortunate 119 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: to be where I am today to have an impact 120 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: with our team here on one of the biggest existential 121 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: problems that we face. 122 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: Well for our listeners who don't know, can you explain 123 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: your work and some of your primary initiatives as the 124 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: Secretary of Energy. 125 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the President has a couple of big, hairy, 126 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: audacious goals with respect we loved thus energy. I love 127 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: them too. And so the first one is to get 128 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: to one hundred percent clean electricity meanings zero carbon emitting 129 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: electricity by twenty thirty five. And the second is to 130 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: get to net zero, meaning we want to make sure 131 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: that we are not emitting carbon more carbon certainly into 132 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: the atmosphere by twenty fifty and that is consistent. That 133 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: last goal is consistent with with what all of these 134 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: countries who have signed onto the Paris Accords to all 135 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: these nations who also want to get to net zero 136 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: by twenty fifty to heal our planet. 137 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: It is. 138 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: It's a big, hairy, audicious goal for everyone because we 139 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: are still emitting so much carbon into the atmosphere, and 140 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: at the same time, we are trying to ad deploy, deploy, deploy, 141 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: as we say here, as much clean electricity as we 142 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: possibly can, so get all those utility scale solar farms 143 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: out there. Those wind turbines were really interested in the 144 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: heat beneath our feet, you know, geothermal which is clean electricity. 145 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: All of the kinds of technologies. I hope we can 146 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: talk about a couple of them, because I think, you know, 147 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: for your listeners who want to know sort of the future, 148 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: a lot of it is very interesting. But that's our 149 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: big goal. In so I have an office of over 150 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand people in the Department of Energy. There 151 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: are seventeen national laboratory who are doing the research into 152 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: what those next generation technologies are and how to bring 153 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: down the cost of them, and what are the materials 154 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: we're going to be using. We are all over the country, 155 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: these seventeen labs. They're huge. We employ it. It's really 156 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: a science agency that I run. But we also have 157 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: now this big mandate from the President's invest in America 158 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: Agenda to deploy clean energy, and so both of those 159 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: we do research, we do development, we do early stage 160 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: demonstration and deployment, and we do big deployment. So all 161 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: of that is happening under the Department of Energy under 162 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: President Biden. 163 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: Wow, that's really exciting. 164 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: It's super exciting. 165 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: And so energy and clean energy feels like it should 166 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: really be a no brainer. And yet, like so many 167 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: things in our world, seems to me and many others, 168 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: to have become so weirdly politicized as though it's a 169 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: partisan issue rather than, you know, just a requirement for 170 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: survival on this planet. How do you wade through that 171 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: muck and how how do you kind of help us 172 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: make sense of things? Because you know, from the outside, 173 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: I see everything you guys are doing at the Department 174 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: of Energy. I know that President Biden is incredibly committed 175 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: to a green energy future and wants to be a 176 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: good climate president. And you see people saying that, you know, 177 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: we're drilling so much and leases are getting approved, and 178 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: it all feels to a lay person a little confusing. 179 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: So is part of it just the fact that there's 180 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: a lot of oil lobbyists who make a lot of 181 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: money and don't want the transition to happen as fast. 182 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: Is it that we have to be pragmatic and understand 183 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: that the transition is going to take I don't know, 184 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm making up numbers, but five years, eight years? 185 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: Is it? 186 00:10:59,000 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: Is it? 187 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: A little bit of bow? It's like, how do you 188 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: clue some of us who are really passionate about the 189 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: issue but a little confused as to where we stand. 190 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: How do you make sense of it for us? 191 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate the question because it's a thoughtful question. 192 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: How do you get to the goal of net zero? Now? 193 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: Note that net zero by twenty fifty, so we have time. 194 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: We today could not just completely stop using fossil fuels. 195 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: You wouldn't mean for anybody. 196 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: We don't have the infrastructure. 197 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: We don't have the infrastructure. Okay, people don't have the vehicles. 198 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: You know, we have about almost ten percent of our 199 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: vehicles are electric, and so they would be able to 200 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: operate their vehicles. But ninety percent of Americans would not 201 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: be able to so, and that's you know, we have 202 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: we have a responsibility to make sure that energy is working. 203 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: That's not just for transportation, but just flipping on the switch. 204 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: Right. 205 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: So a lot of our power right now comes from 206 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: natural gas, some comes from goal. You know, a larger 207 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: and larger percentage is coming from renewables, and we're trying 208 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: to accelerate that, but we're not at a point where 209 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: we can be one hundred percent today. So it's got 210 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: to take time for us to build out the infrastructure 211 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: and the generation to get to big goal. And that's 212 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: why you've got to continue to produce fossil fuel energy 213 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: while you accelerate the clean So you have to have 214 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 3: enough energy and clean to be able to fuld a transition. 215 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: But we're unfortunately just not there yet. And I will 216 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: say there's one other element that people may not be 217 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 3: as cognizant of, which is that we have a role. 218 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: We have a place in the world that is pretty 219 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: unique because we are such a big energy producer, both 220 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: on fossil fuels, oil and gas. And when Putin invaded Ukraine, 221 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: for example, Russia had a huge amount of oil going 222 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: on the market at that point, and when they invaded, 223 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: everybody rightfully said, no, we're not going to buy any 224 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 3: Russian oil. That took millions of barrels off the market, 225 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: and that's why you remember a year and a half 226 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: ago we saw a huge spike in prices because that's 227 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: why I was taken off the market. And so the 228 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 3: President said, well, we're going to contribute to keep prices 229 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: down for real people where people are most affected by this, 230 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 3: and he's really focused on how you bring down prices 231 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: for people at the same time as we want to 232 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: accelerate this move, and we are accelerating this move toward 233 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: clean So that's sort of the it's a managed transition, 234 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: I'll say, to manage it as we accelerate, right. 235 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: Well, that I think is a really helpful clarification, especially 236 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: when you know, listen, I wish we could snap our 237 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,479 Speaker 1: fingers and be in a you know, completely green utopia tomorrow, 238 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: but it does. The reality is that it takes time, 239 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: and it takes building infrastructure, and it also takes the 240 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: pragmatism to be patient. You know, we were so used 241 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: to refreshing our screens on our phones. We want answers now, 242 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: now now. But when you talk about really shifting energy systems, 243 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: political systems, those things take generational commitments and I think 244 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: it's really it's helpful to remind, I know myself, and 245 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: i'd imagine our friends listening at home, that these are 246 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: also matters of national security, these are also matters of 247 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: geopolitical stabilization, and so you have to do what is 248 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: available while trying to bring about a better future as 249 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: quickly as possible. 250 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: That's exactly right, I will say, though you know, patience 251 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: is not in our lexicon. 252 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: I love that about your administration. 253 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: Though we well, we really feel this sense of urgency 254 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: about it. We really want to accelerate, and we're trying 255 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: to figure out what are all the blockages that are 256 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: there need to be removed in order to really see 257 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: this accelerate. So, for example, you know, we want to 258 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: see a huge amount of proliferation of solar, right every 259 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: state has different requirements for that. Every state is different permitting. 260 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: Some states don't want to see a proliferation of solar, 261 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: Some states don't want to see a proliferation of wind, 262 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: and so there's a lot of local anxiety about that 263 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: and often blocks and so you know, you have to 264 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: almost do everything everywhere, all at once, block tackle, play, 265 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: offense and defense on both local policies as well as 266 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: federal policies. I will say though, honestly, the tax credits 267 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: that were embedded in the in the Inflation Reduction Act, 268 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: which is one of the three big laws that the 269 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: President got passed to have this invest in America agenda, 270 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: which will really really is accelerating employment of clean those 271 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: tax credits do an awful lot of the work themselves. 272 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: So let me just give you an example. Say you 273 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: want to develop a solar project that a community can use, 274 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: and if you hire using prevailing wage, high wages, if 275 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: you have apprenticeship programs, you get a thirty percent tax 276 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: credit to be able to build that out. That's a 277 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: tax credit, that's a tax deduction, that's money back right 278 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: off of a If you use American made solar panels, 279 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: that's another ten percent, so now it's forty percent. If 280 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: you locate that project in adjacent or in a disadvantaged community, 281 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: that's another ten percent. So now we're talking about ay 282 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 3: percent tax credit off of that solar project. So those 283 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: kinds of incentives that are embedded now in the law 284 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: are doing a lot of work to get both the 285 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: private sector as well as communities really interested. But it's 286 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: also generated a lot of angst among those who are 287 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: really you know, who don't like to change and who 288 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: really like the status quote. But changes happen in folks 289 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: not just because solars coming online, but because we are 290 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: all using so much more energy with electrification of vehicles 291 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: and AI, these data centers, cryptocurrency. There's just a huge 292 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 3: energy suck out there, and we have got to deploy 293 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: energy at a rapid rapid speed. And that's a lot 294 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: of what keeps me up at night. 295 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: And now a word from our sponsors who make this 296 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: show possible. You know, it's interesting to me because when 297 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: you talk about the way that things are shifting, of course, 298 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: there's folks who want the status quota remain. There's plenty 299 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: of folks who make a lot of money harming the 300 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: planet and who know that by the time we have 301 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: to reap what we sew, they'll be dead and they 302 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: don't really care, which is morbid but true. And then 303 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: here you guys are talking about building out these generational 304 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: programs that will certainly outlive many of us and create 305 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 1: a better world for the people coming after us. And 306 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: at the center of that you touched on this is 307 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: the creation of really good paying, clean energy jobs, the 308 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: kinds of jobs and to your point, projects that could 309 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: transition entire communities into better health. Can you tell folks 310 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: at home a little bit about what that means, because 311 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: I think sometimes people hear clean energy jobs and they 312 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: go like, yeah, okay, but what are the jobs? What 313 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: are the options? 314 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I love to say all kinds of 315 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: jobs for all kinds of people. So you know, if 316 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 3: you are interested in advanced manufacturing and you want to 317 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: help build out next generation soul or sells, or next 318 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: generation wind turbines, or next generation reconductoring material for the grid, 319 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: if you want to design any of these systems, if 320 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: you're interested in an enhanced geothermal if you're interested in 321 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: tidal power, offshore wind, if you're interested in energy efficiency 322 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: and the materials that support the buildings around you so 323 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 3: that you use less energy, if you're interested in batteries 324 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: for electric vehicles or for storing renewable energy, if you're 325 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: interested in the vehicles themselves. There are just so millions 326 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 3: of jobs that will be available in these future facing 327 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: industries that are good jobs. And here again, because the 328 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: tax credits incentivize the payment of prevailing wage and good 329 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 3: paying jobs, we're seeing wages rise I mean, these tax credits, 330 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: they really are working. We've got just in my field. 331 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, they're they're incentivizing other kinds of 332 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: you know, they're incentivizing chip fabrication facilities, et cetera. Are 333 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: but just in the space of clean energy. They there 334 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: have been over five hundred factories now since the passage 335 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: of these laws that are coming to the US, expanding 336 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: in the US, being built in that would not have 337 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: been here but for these incentives, and creating so many 338 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: jobs across America in pockets all over the country. And 339 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 3: a lot of times people worry, you know, well, how 340 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: will communities that don't necessarily support clean energy or maybe 341 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: that have a leg in the fossil fuel world feel 342 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: about these new kind of jobs. And that's a really 343 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 3: important question because we can't leave people feeling in this 344 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 3: transition that they're being left behind or that they're less than. 345 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 3: But here's the kicker is that in this new energy world, 346 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: the jobs, there's so many jobs that are analogous to 347 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: the jobs that people are already doing. So for example, 348 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: you know, there's oil and gas industry that drill offshore 349 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 3: in the Gulf of Mexis. They know how to get 350 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 3: on an oil rig and drill down. Well, why not 351 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 3: have those offshore platforms be one of the things that 352 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 3: might be useful for offshore wind. If you do an 353 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 3: oil rig on land, you know how the subs, you know, 354 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: the subsurface, you could be in a place to help 355 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: pull up that geothermal heat. There's a lot analogies in this, 356 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 3: and so it's exciting. I mean, we we I have 357 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: the privilege of working for the most pro union president 358 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: that I think the country's ever seen, and the unions 359 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 3: and the amount of union jobs that have been created 360 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 3: both in constructing these facilities as well as working in 361 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 3: them is inspiring. To my mind. 362 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: It's really exciting, and I think it's so important. You know, 363 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: it's human nature to worry that change might leave you behind, 364 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: but to know that there are are real there is 365 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: thought leadership around how anyone who works in a dirty 366 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: energy job could transition into a clean energy. 367 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: Job and. 368 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: Not have to shift all that much of their life. 369 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: That's that's important, you know, it's. 370 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: One hundred important. And I you know, I mean, I 371 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: think about this, and it's not just oil and gas, 372 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: it's coal as well. And perhaps coal is even further 373 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: ahead in that there are a lot more coal mines 374 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: that have shut down this transition. And there's this in 375 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: Weird in West Virginia. They had a big steel factory 376 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: that was that shut down, and they have a number 377 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 3: of old mines as well in West Virginia. And this 378 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 3: agenda incentivizes the location of facilities and clean energy on 379 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 3: the places that produced the fossil energy of the past. 380 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 3: And so we like to say that the communities that 381 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: have powered our nation for the past one hundred years 382 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: should be communities that power our nation for the next 383 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: hundred years, but with clean energy exactly. 384 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: And that was always again from the outside looking in. 385 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: You know, people will say, because I like to volunteer 386 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: and be involved in the political process, well how would 387 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: you do it? And I'm like, you know, anywhere there 388 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: was a coal mine is where I'd build the next 389 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: solar plant. 390 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: You know. 391 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: That's that's the goal, is to help people transition, to 392 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: give people safer versions of the jobs they have today, 393 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: better versions, better pay. You know, That's that's the idea 394 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: I think behind advancement. And you know, it's so cool 395 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: to see how these rescue plans are working. You know, 396 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: the whole world was upended in twenty twenty. And I 397 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: just read an article today, forgive me, I can't remember 398 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: if it was in the Washington Post or The Atlantic 399 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: that was talking about how when you look at global 400 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: inflation and you see these bills that President Biden passed 401 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: and what they did for the infusion in the economy, 402 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: how they're already paying for themselves. And how in Europe, 403 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: for example, they invested less and their inflation is still 404 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: twice as high. And what's happening here in terms of 405 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: you know, jobs, job creation, economic bolstering, Like we are 406 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: making this really incredibly strong economic recovery because we've invested 407 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: in our own country and in our own people. And 408 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: now to know that he's you know, not to do 409 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: with energy, but now he's going after the price gouging. 410 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm just like, get them, Joe. 411 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: Let's go. 412 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: He's obsessed with crisis. I'll just say, yeah, Joe from Scranton, 413 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: Amtrak Joe. He really focuses on how, you know, what 414 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: people are feeling out there. But do you point about 415 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: the economy. I mean, he under since he's been elected, 416 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: have been fourteen point eight million jobs created. That is 417 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 3: more jobs any president in any term in the history 418 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: of the United States. Inflation has gone from nine percent 419 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: to now three percent, and they're still working on getting 420 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: it lower. You know, wages are up, the number of 421 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: small businesses that have started again record amounts, five point 422 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: five million new business starts. Never had that many before. 423 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: The amount of people unemployed, it's under four percent now. 424 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 3: That is the longest period of time under four percent 425 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: in fifty years. That all of the indicators might to 426 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 3: just jump on what you were pointed to are extremely positive. 427 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 3: And when you compare us to our global neighbors and allies, 428 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: we have the most GDP growth of any of the 429 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: advanced nations. We are doing better than any of them 430 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 3: because go figure, policy works. 431 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 2: Policy works these people. 432 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it really does. And so we just got 433 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: to get to a point where people feel it. And 434 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 3: and you know, we may not be there yet because 435 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 3: the steel isn't in the ground in all these places yet. 436 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: And you know, but I'm telling you, uh, with the numbers, 437 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 3: any president would die to have these kind of economic 438 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 3: indicators much better than anywhere any time before. 439 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: It's really it's quite incredible, and it is you know, 440 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 1: it's not lost on me that for some reason, Uh, 441 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to get covered in the press as 442 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: well as it should. Uh they it's so frustrating to 443 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: to sort of watch that that folks go, oh, well, 444 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: things are going pretty well on our home soil here. 445 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: We we don't love that. It doesn't give us, as 446 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, as much clickbait as we want. So they 447 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: try to, you know, drum up some local controversy. It 448 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: feels important to be frank about what would be at 449 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: risk from an energy perspective for us if a Republican 450 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: gets elected this year. 451 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: Well, I think it is important to look at what 452 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: Congress has done and what the House has passed. What 453 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 3: you know, some of these think tanks are proposing if 454 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: there is a shift in administrations. You know, I think 455 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 3: that's important for people to take a look at. As 456 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: we speak, you and I I'm hatched, so I can't 457 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: get into politics pure power per se. But I think 458 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: people can do homework like you have been doing and 459 00:27:54,160 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 3: see the importance of moving forward an agenda for the 460 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 3: nation and for certainly for the climates. Yeah, you know, 461 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 3: it is the agenda that the president has. It is 462 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 3: the most robust climate agenda, the most aggressive, the most 463 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 3: forward leaning that we have ever seen in our lifetimes. 464 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: It is the most as al Gore repeatedly says, it 465 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 3: is the most significant in the world. When I talk 466 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: to my counterparts in other countries, because every country has 467 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: a Minister of Energy and we all meet regularly and talk. 468 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: But they're all so envious of what the United States 469 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: has done. And you know, some of them have been 470 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: a little mad because we're attracting a lot of investment 471 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: and jobs. But I keep saying to them, there is 472 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: so much need out there, you guys should. 473 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: Go do it too. 474 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: There is so much need for everyone to be installing 475 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: energy efficiency and clean energy in our countries. That don't 476 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 3: let us hold you back. 477 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I love that. 478 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: Obviously, it can be taxing to work in politics, particularly 479 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: because when you hold a position like you do, you 480 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: have to be very careful about, you know, following the 481 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: rules and not saying the wrong thing. Can you say 482 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: a little bit about what we might expect to hear 483 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: from President Biden at the State of the Union. Is 484 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: that is that allowed? 485 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: That's allowed? I mean when I diagram hatched for those 486 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: of you with the Hatch Act requires those of us 487 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: who are in these positions to not be involved at 488 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: all in partisan politics. So yes, we have to be 489 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: careful about that, but that doesn't mean I can't trumpet 490 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 3: what the president is doing is doing because that is super, 491 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: super important. So yeah, I mean he's he's going to 492 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: focus a lot on some of the things that we've 493 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: talked about in terms of cost to your point about 494 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: cracking down on the increasing costs, junk fees and all 495 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: of that. That's you know, he's gonna he's going to 496 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: talk about that. He's gonna, uh, he's going to present 497 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: I think he's going to lay out the historic achievements 498 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: right that he has delivered on and then his vision 499 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 3: for the future. He that the fact that he has 500 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: gotten more done in the first three years than most 501 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: presidents have accomplished in two terms. He's going to talk about, 502 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: you know, implementing this agenda from infrastructure and the Chips Act, 503 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: that's the Act for for the for for chips, for computers, 504 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: et cetera, and science to lowering drug prices again, lowering costs, 505 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: get rid of getting rid of junk fees. He's going 506 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: to talk about whose side he's on and the work 507 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: ahead for the future to make life better for for 508 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: every American so you know, giving people breathing room in 509 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: terms of lower lowering costs, lowering healthcare premiums. UH taken 510 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: on the drug companies to lower the cost of prescription drugs, 511 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 3: making the corporations and the wealthy pay their fair share 512 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: in taxes, putting the middle class first, saving our democracy, 513 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 3: protecting women's reproductive health, the rights and the freedoms that 514 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 3: are at stake in this very election nighting the country 515 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: his unity. He's got a unity agenda like privacy and 516 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: when don't you say unity, meaning that people on both 517 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 3: sides should care about ensuring privacy online, big tech, you know, 518 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: curbing fentanyl that's not partisan. Helping veterans is not partisan. 519 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: Ending cancer is not partisan. So we're gonna get as 520 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: much done as we can as soon as we can. 521 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 3: We're gonna put the pedal to the medal this year, 522 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: and so much more to do on a second term. 523 00:31:51,120 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: And now a word from our sponsors, it's a lot. 524 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: I mean these to your point, these are very big, 525 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: audacious goals, and I think something that I have been 526 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: really impressed by over the last three years is the 527 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: capabilities of this administration to take on so many issues simultaneously. 528 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: You know, the President seems to have done a very 529 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: incredible job appointing folks such as yourself to run these 530 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: enormous departments and really run with these directives to make 531 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: things better and to advance us in terms of safety, technology, 532 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 1: the economy, people's rights, you know. And I know you 533 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: can't say it, but I can say it in the 534 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: face of relentless partisan attacks that are frankly, as a citizen, 535 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: exhausting to watch. I know you can't say anything again, 536 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: but I can't imagine how it feels on the inside 537 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: for you all to be battling this every day. But 538 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: I just really want to say thank you, because the 539 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: dedication must I mean, it must require an unbelievable amount 540 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: of fortitude. But we see you and we appreciate you. Guys. 541 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: That is so so nice. I can say that, you know, 542 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 3: what fuels all of us is the work. And we 543 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 3: love our boss and we're completely committed, and we love 544 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: the fact that we're making impact in people's lives. And 545 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 3: there's nothing more. I mean, you know, we don't get 546 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: paid the big salaries or anything like that, but we 547 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 3: get psychic wealth yea, in serving and I. 548 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: Hope, you know, for people that's so cool. 549 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: I hope folks think about it too for themselves. You 550 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 3: know what this is working in public service, something that 551 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: might intrigue you. You know, we've got a whole climate 552 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: core for example, we're recruiting for We want people to 553 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: be part of the change, and that can mean obviously 554 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 3: activism on the outside, but could also mean working on 555 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: the inside to implement an agenda. And I really encourage 556 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: people to consider that as well. 557 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, what personally for you, what keeps you motivated? 558 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: Oh? 559 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: For sure, it is this, this agenda and an amazing 560 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 3: team of people that I work with who are all 561 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 3: equally fervently committed to healing our planet, having this impact 562 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 3: in the world. And you know, there's something about feeling 563 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: like metrics where you achieve a metric and you get 564 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 3: to move and celebrate how much how many more gigawatts 565 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 3: of clean energy are on the grid and this month 566 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: or this year, how much CO two reduction did we see? 567 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 3: You know, I mean things are happening out there that 568 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: we get to demarket and that is fuel again. But 569 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 3: I will say, you know, there's a lot of there's 570 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 3: a lot of emotion, emotional attachment to you know, for example, 571 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: we work in Puerto Rico. The President has charged the 572 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: Department of Energy to lead rebuilding the Puerto Rican grid, 573 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: which has been decimated by hurricanes and thousands of people 574 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: have died in Hurricane Maria, et cetera. Just really horrible 575 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: situation there. But rebuilding the grid to get to one 576 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: hundred percent clean electricity and so being able to bring 577 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 3: solar panels to homes in Puerto Rico is so gratifying. 578 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 3: Was just there recently and the first the Congress gave 579 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 3: us a billion dollars to be able to put on 580 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: rooftop solar. Won't get everybody, but it will get the 581 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 3: most vulnerable, the ones, the people who are medically who 582 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 3: need medical devices that are dependent on electricity. And for 583 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 3: Puerto Ricans, you know, clean energy, it's nice, but really 584 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 3: it's resist Lilliancy. That is super important that you want 585 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 3: the ability to access energy even when the grid goes down, 586 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: and they have so much they can do that. So 587 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 3: putting solar and batteries on homes is super important. So 588 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 3: we went to this one house and the grandmother was 589 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: there in a wheelchair. Her daughter has cancer and her 590 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 3: grandson has cerebral palsy and he is connected to a 591 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: breathing machine. Tiny home of poor family. When they signed 592 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 3: up to get solar and storage, they cried, They hugged us. 593 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 3: They said, you just don't know what this means to us. 594 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 3: It means life to us. And those kind of moments, 595 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 3: that kind of feeling like, you know, really people are 596 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,959 Speaker 3: being impacted by the work you do. There's nothing more 597 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: priceless than that. 598 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 2: That's so incredible. 599 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: And you know when you talk about your own family, 600 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, your husband and encouraging you to go for 601 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: it in the beginning of your career and BDAG and 602 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: you know the fact that your kids were little. 603 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 2: What what is it like for you now? I mean, 604 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: how how. 605 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: Do you juggle you know, your your life as an 606 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: individual and and with your family and then this big 607 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: public service job is it? Do you always just feel 608 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: like you're spinning a lot of plates or do you 609 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: guys have a great like divide and conquer sort of mentality. 610 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 3: Oh, we definitely are spending a lot of plates. My 611 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 3: kids are grown. I am children now and I live 612 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 3: with one of my children and her husband and my 613 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: two grandchildrens. I see them when I'm able to be 614 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 3: home before they go to bed. I see them on 615 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 3: the weekends if I am there for a weekend, but 616 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 3: I feel connected to them very closely. So that takes 617 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 3: a lot of uh, you know, that brings a lot 618 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 3: of joy and a lot of balance. But that and 619 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 3: you know, my husband lives with us too, so we 620 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 3: are all together, and it's fantastic. 621 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 2: That's so neat. That's so neat. 622 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: So for those of us who are excited, who want 623 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: to be more involved maybe who are looking for more information, 624 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: are there news sources you'd point us to? Are their 625 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: articles we should read? Who should we be following on 626 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: social media so we can stay on top of what 627 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: the administration's doing? 628 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: What do we need to know? 629 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, first of all, you know, we encourage 630 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 3: you to go to our fantastic website at energy dot gov. 631 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 3: We also on that website we have you know, links 632 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 3: to what we're doing obviously, and follow certainly me on 633 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 3: Instagram and on on x I guess now and on LinkedIn. 634 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 3: But I think that it's really important for people to 635 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 3: to seek out podcasts that they're interested and I listen 636 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 3: to a lot of nerdy energy podcasts, and for people 637 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 3: who are energy nerds, there's a lot of really great 638 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: ones out there, the Energy Gang, the Columbia Energy Exchange. 639 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of really fun and interesting 640 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 3: podcasts if you're if you're interested in that. But I 641 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 3: think it's really super important for people to you know, 642 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 3: to get active, to get active and ensure that your 643 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 3: voice is heard, make sure that you are aware of 644 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 3: so many of these issues. I mean, a lot of 645 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 3: times energy can be you know, there's a lot of 646 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 3: science involved, obviously, and for folks who may not be 647 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 3: so inclined that there's you know a lot of different 648 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: types of energy, whether you're trying to at nuclear energy, 649 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 3: fission or fusion and all of that, but it is 650 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 3: it's whole fascinating to be able to read about and 651 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: be part of and you don't have to be a scientist. 652 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: So in addition to reading about it, I think people 653 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 3: should take a look and see whether this is something 654 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 3: they might be interested in pursuing, either either inside or outside, 655 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 3: because it is really you know, community organizing is a 656 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 3: huge part of energy. Designing programs is a huge part 657 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: of energy. Inner governmental work is a huge part of 658 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 3: energy in addition to the research and the development of it. 659 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 3: So both on learning about it as well as on 660 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 3: getting involved yourself from external and potentially raising your hand 661 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 3: to work on the inside. There's nothing more important from 662 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 3: my perspective long term as to what's happening to us. 663 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you read a story this morning that we're 664 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 3: not going to have ice in the oceans anymore, and 665 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 3: it's we've got to get I mean, our hair should 666 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: be on fire because our planet is on fire, and 667 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 3: we need people who are seriously committed to making change. 668 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 3: We don't want people inside the department who are committed 669 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 3: to the status quo or who are just here to 670 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 3: pick up a paycheck. We got to have people who 671 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 3: are really determined. And if folks who are listening are 672 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 3: in that camp, we'd encourage you to apply the encourage 673 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 3: you to come join us. That's so exciting, grateful for 674 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 3: people like you who are you know, raising the flag 675 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 3: and using your platform to be able to get the 676 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 3: word out. I just can't thank you enough for that. 677 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: Well thanks, I mean, my goodness, it's such a cool 678 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: thing for me, you know, as an adult now to 679 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: basically have an excuse to be my nerdiest self and 680 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: ask fascinating people fascinating questions. When you think about the 681 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: year ahead. I imagine all of these big, audacious goals 682 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: feel like quite a work in progress. But you guys 683 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: of the administration really have a game plan. What feels 684 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 1: like a work in progress for you, so. 685 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,919 Speaker 3: Much is a work in progress. First thing that comes 686 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 3: to mind when you say that is one of the 687 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 3: things that the invest in America Agenda assigned to the 688 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 3: Department of Energy and to the States is getting rebates 689 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 3: in the hands of people who want to buy energy 690 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 3: efficient appliances like heat pumps or induction stoves. And so 691 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 3: we are working with the states because it's all going 692 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 3: to go through state programs, but we want the states 693 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: to get that money out and to have their programs 694 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 3: designed so that people can access these rebates, you know, 695 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: in their income dependent in most cases. But if you 696 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 3: want to get an induction stove, you might be able 697 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 3: to get hundreds, if not even more off of an 698 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 3: induction stove for your home, and an induction stove for 699 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,720 Speaker 3: people who are unaware, it's the most efficient kind of stove, 700 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 3: and we are strongly encouraging if people are interested for 701 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 3: them to use them. A lot of people who use 702 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: induction stoves won't ever go back because they love them. Similarly, 703 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 3: I want to make sure people are aware of the 704 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: tax credits for electric vehicles. For example, if you want 705 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 3: to buy a used electric vehicle, you can get a 706 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 3: four thousand dollars tax credit, but that not just to 707 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 3: pick up on your taxes, but at the dealership off 708 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 3: the top of the vehicle if you buy. If you 709 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 3: want to buy a new electric vehicle, there's a lot 710 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 3: of there's a wide range of kinds of electric vehicles. 711 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: Obviously some super expensive, but there's some that are more affordable. 712 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 3: And if you lease an electric vehicle, you can still 713 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: get a seven five hundred dollars credit that you can 714 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 3: take down the amount that you'll have to find it 715 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 3: or if you want to buy it outright. So I 716 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 3: want people to know those those are the catches for 717 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 3: the purchase of an electric vehicle. The vehicle has to 718 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 3: be made in the United States. If they lease an 719 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 3: electric vehicle just has to be an electric vehicle doesn't 720 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 3: have to be made in the United States. And if 721 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 3: they buy used when it doesn't have to be made 722 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 3: in the United States. But I want people to know 723 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 3: what they can access. Similarly, for families that are really 724 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 3: income constrained, that they can pick up the phone and 725 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 3: call to get their home weatherized. So you could have 726 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 3: somebody come in for free and install installation in their 727 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 3: home in the attic, energy efficient windows, energy efficient doors, 728 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 3: replace your light bulbs with lights. Get thirty percent off 729 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 3: of your energy bill every month by just installing fit 730 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 3: energy efficient technologies in your home, and that's for free, 731 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 3: and you can call your local community action agency to 732 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 3: see whether you qualify. So part of our work to 733 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 3: do is getting the word out about these opportunities that 734 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 3: are available for people as we move through this agenda. 735 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 2: That's so cool, Thank you. 736 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say we've still got a lot of work 737 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 3: to do in a lot of things as well, including 738 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 3: getting the price down for some of these advanced technologies 739 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 3: that we are working on. So if I can just 740 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 3: say a word about that. Yeah, you know, we have 741 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 3: launched you know how there used to be a moonshot, 742 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 3: We've launched a series of earth shots on how we 743 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 3: want to bring down the cost of technologies so that 744 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 3: they can be deployed more readily. So it's a little 745 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 3: bit longer serving. So we're looking at how technology advances 746 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 3: can bring down costs. So, for example, one of the 747 00:45:54,480 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 3: most promising future technologies is clean hydrid, which is a 748 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 3: form of energy storage and a form of clean energy, 749 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 3: and we want to reduce the cost of that so 750 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 3: that it's affordable across the board. And we've got all 751 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 3: these hydrogen hubs across America that we've just launched to 752 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 3: be able to do that. Another technology is offshore wind, 753 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 3: but on floating platforms, so that the wind the platform 754 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 3: can move and turn to wherever the wind is best 755 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 3: situated and they don't have to be and especially for 756 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 3: places like California where it's very deep and very steep. 757 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 3: It's one of the most promising kinds of technologies that 758 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 3: we're looking at. So there's just all sorts of really 759 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 3: interesting next generation technologies. How to have a net zero home, 760 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 3: how to have a home that is not producing any 761 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 3: CO two and not using much energy except for I 762 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 3: want that energy, I know, right, yeah, materials that you 763 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 3: would be using for that. So there's a whole series 764 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 3: of earth shots that we have taken to bring down 765 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 3: the price and to make sure that we are doing 766 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 3: all we can to deploy clean energy today and in 767 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:11,280 Speaker 3: the future. 768 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 2: That's so cool. 769 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: I can't wait to keep in touch about what our 770 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: options are with our homes, because I'm ready to I'm 771 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: ready to be a pilot house. 772 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 3: Let's go, Oh do it? Do it a net zero 773 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 3: or maybe even a CO two negative. 774 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 2: I would love it. Sign me up. 775 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 3: I was just at in southern California, actually at a 776 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 3: community that is a net zero community where they're using 777 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 3: for exit. They have solar, they have battery storage to 778 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 3: save the solar energy so that you can use it 779 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 3: at night. They have what is known as a virtual 780 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 3: power plant where you can take your electric vehicle, you 781 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 3: can charge it at home, and the electric vehicle actually 782 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 3: provides power to the home itself, the battery and the 783 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 3: electric vehicle. So it's two way charging, meaning that it 784 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 3: takes a charge from the grid when the when you 785 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 3: don't need it, it gives you power back or the 786 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 3: or the power back when it's needed. I mean, those 787 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 3: kinds of innovations are all coming down the pike, and 788 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 3: it's very exciting. 789 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 2: It's really really cool. 790 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: It's a really nice reminder that there are possibilities we 791 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: may not have even imagined yet that can solve the 792 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: problems that we're currently living with. And it's really heartening 793 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: to be reminded of the potential and to know that 794 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: all of this is underway. So thank you for your dedication. 795 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for being so ferociously committed to this. We 796 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: need you and we're grateful for you. 797 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate the chance to be on to talk 798 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 3: with you, and I certainly appreciate your activism and your 799 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 3: advocacy and your strength and your voice. 800 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. It always just makes me so happy to 801 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 2: see you well. 802 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me on. It makes me 803 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 3: super happy to see you too. 804 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 2: Thank you. 805 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: You have a great rest of your day, and like 806 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 1: I said, you let us know anything you need support 807 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 1: on We're here. 808 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, appreciate it. 809 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you,