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Speaker 1: The volume. The Colin Cowherd Podcast brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi, everybody, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: our Thursday morning podcast with a player that's going to

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Speaker 1: be a first ballot Hall of Famer, Vaughan Miller of

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, eighte time pro bowler in eleven years.

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Speaker 1: So before we get to Vaughan, I just have some

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Speaker 1: thoughts here about this week. The talk inevitably is about

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Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady colliding in Foxborough on Sunday night, Bucks

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Speaker 1: Patriots matchup. Because we all love drama, we love tabloid headlines,

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Speaker 1: and this story has generated lots of them. Ballot check

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Speaker 1: treated Brady like a child, the feud ruined a dynasty.

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Speaker 1: None of course are true, but I think for the

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Speaker 1: sake of drama and many people are ignoring the basic

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Speaker 1: human element at the heart of the story. There was

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Speaker 1: a study I saw about a year ago. It was

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Speaker 1: conducted by the co author of Freakonomics, Stephen Levitt. He's

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Speaker 1: an economist at the University of Chicago, and he asked

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Speaker 1: about twenty thousand people to make a decision in their

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Speaker 1: decision had to be made solely based on the results

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Speaker 1: And if the coin landed on heads, then they had

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Speaker 1: what were the results When the researchers followed up six

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Speaker 1: months later, they found that for the importants like quitting

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Speaker 1: a job or ending a relationship Brady, people who were

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Speaker 1: told to make a change were more satisfied and happier

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Speaker 1: I think that's important to note. With Brady, it's very

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Speaker 1: he isn't just revitalized because he left Belichick. It's because

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Speaker 1: he made a massive change in his life that had

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Speaker 1: far reaching benefits in his approach to everything. And I

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Speaker 1: new environment and a new job. I've done this three times.

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Speaker 1: Why because there's a certain energy that is created by

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Speaker 1: changing environment, changing costs, changing people. Not every single element

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Speaker 1: of my current job is better than my former job.

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Speaker 1: But what happens when you push yourself into a new

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Speaker 1: space is the enemy of great is content. And most

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Speaker 1: people listening to this podcast, men or women, are underachieving

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Speaker 1: at some point in your life. And you're underachieving, not

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Speaker 1: because you don't have talent, is because you're content. You're

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Speaker 1: not creating new energy. It's not just that he got

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans. I would argue that his leadership improved, that

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Speaker 1: He went from dour, cold, freezing weather to sunshine, new assistance,

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Speaker 1: It's like battery cables to your life. And I can

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Speaker 1: just about the lack of wide receiver weapons. Same playbook,

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of this has revitalized, jump

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Speaker 1: this sounds very zen and very Phil Jackson, but anybody

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Speaker 1: listening to this show that has started a new, challenging job,

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Speaker 1: it really enhances your abilities, all of them emotionally and physically.

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Speaker 1: And I think what happens to a lot of people

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Speaker 1: right away? Yeah, you can say it right away. And

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes he was just fearless, you know, he just

425
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Speaker 1: he just got it. He was confident. You know, he

426
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: faced other rookie quarterbacks. You know, they're struggling with the reds.

427
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 1: They're you know, scramming out the pocket, you know, struggling

428
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Speaker 1: trying to push the ball, push the ball down field.

429
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Speaker 1: And I think we watch it at weekend and week out,

430
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Speaker 1: you know when you have young guys, you know struggle.

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Speaker 1: When I really think about it, um, young guys with

432
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Speaker 1: success Patrick Mahomes is really there's not been a young

433
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Speaker 1: guy that had that type of success like Patrick Mahomes

434
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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck had. You know, Um, he had a ton

435
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Speaker 1: of success earlier on in his career as well. And

436
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Speaker 1: I think he developed into the quarterback that you know,

437
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Speaker 1: everybody knew it he could be like later down in

438
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Speaker 1: his career, but right off the bat, like nobody's like

439
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Um, you know Lamar Jackson wrapped it back.

440
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Speaker 1: He was, he was athletic, he did when he did

441
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Speaker 1: want it forul things. But true quarterback like nobody, nobody's

442
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: done it like you know, Patrick Mahomes ra after the

443
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Speaker 1: back and I'm not leaving your career. You know, this

444
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Speaker 1: is this is my opinion. You know, Lamar Jackson he

445
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Speaker 1: does a lot of things. Well, you know, he can

446
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: throw the ball, he can run the ball, create separation.

447
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Speaker 1: He's he's a he's a once in a and a

448
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Speaker 1: lifetime player, you know, just like Patrick Mahomes. But they're

449
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: two totally different players. It's kind of you know, it's

450
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Speaker 1: it's kind of you know, you can't compare Patrick Mahomes

451
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Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson. They're just two elite players. It's kind

452
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Speaker 1: of like you know, before you can compare like Peyton

453
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Speaker 1: and Tom Brady. You know, they're just two traditional quarterbacks.

454
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Speaker 1: But Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson just he

455
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Speaker 1: just had success in so many different ways. And Patrick

456
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: Mahomes he's done it. He's he's played a true quarterback position.

457
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Speaker 1: He's done it in so many different ways. Throwing the

458
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Speaker 1: ball left handed, scramming out of the pocket, super big

459
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Speaker 1: arm with Tyreek Hill can just run eighty yards underneath it,

460
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Speaker 1: Like it's you know, those two guys are two special players.

461
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Speaker 1: And you know, I played against Patrick Mahomes and this

462
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Speaker 1: should be my first time against Lamar Jackson. So I'm

463
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Speaker 1: looking forward to it and it'd be a goole. Did

464
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Speaker 1: you um, if you didn't know the story of Brady?

465
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Speaker 1: You just were Van Miller and here's a cornerback and

466
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Speaker 1: you didn't hear you didn't know his history. Did Brady

467
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Speaker 1: do something special? Maybe it's pre snap. Did you sense

468
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Speaker 1: when you played Brady? Oh? I mean, because to be

469
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Speaker 1: the greatest ever, It's one thing to be great, it's

470
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Speaker 1: another to literally have a trophy room in your house?

471
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Speaker 1: Like what is it about Tom that when you face

472
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Speaker 1: it does feel different? Vaughan? It does. He just has

473
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Speaker 1: such are He just has such a handle on what's

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Speaker 1: going on, you know, and what's about to happen. It's

475
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Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, he can he can predict

476
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Speaker 1: what's about to happen from the quarterback position. He can

477
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Speaker 1: kind of predict where wide receivers are going, what coverages

478
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Speaker 1: is about to happen. You know. Um, And you know,

479
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: once you really learning Tom Brady, he puts so much working.

480
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: He has so much preparation, you know, even in the offseason,

481
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: and the roster that he builds around him, you know,

482
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: he gets players that fit his type of right it style.

483
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Speaker 1: He's been able to play with Don Kolsti for forever

484
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: that connection would always be always got Mike Evans. Now

485
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: he's got you know, Antonio Brown and all these other guys.

486
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Speaker 1: And you know, throughout my career, you know, I've been

487
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Speaker 1: able to, you know, play against Tom Brady, but I've

488
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Speaker 1: been able to get to know him off the ciel

489
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Speaker 1: it as well. And there's really no reason to not

490
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Speaker 1: like Tom Brady other than he wins football games. You know,

491
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Speaker 1: that's he does everything right. He's such a road mom,

492
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Speaker 1: he's such a great guy, you know. You know, like

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Speaker 1: I said, I've got to spend time with him off

494
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Speaker 1: the field, and it's really not a reason to not

495
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Speaker 1: like Tom Brady other than he's winning championships. And you know,

496
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Speaker 1: that's not a good reason I have to like somebody

497
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Speaker 1: because they're winning. But when Tom Brady, he does everything

498
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Speaker 1: absolutely right. What about all the pliability stuff like like

499
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Speaker 1: Alex Guerrero, do you do some of that? Do you

500
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Speaker 1: buy into it do you. I mean, because if you

501
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Speaker 1: talk to Tom, I'm sure you guys talk about your

502
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Speaker 1: bodies and kind of the physical ability to keep playing,

503
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know Tom, you know,

504
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Speaker 1: as long as that long, as long as his arm

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Speaker 1: is appliable, and long as he has that snap on

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Speaker 1: his arm. You know, Tom kid, you know he's not

507
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Speaker 1: a scrambling quarterback. I mean, he's not a scrambling quarter

508
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Speaker 1: but we've also he can't move around and you know,

509
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: ten yards it's all you needed. You know, it's if

510
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Speaker 1: he stays healthy. You know, who knows how long he

511
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Speaker 1: can play. You know, he's he's only got to move

512
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: five yards in the pocket, left, the right or forward

513
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: and back, so like he's running four yards out the field.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he's Lamar Jackson or you know, Patrick

515
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: Mahons any of these guys. He's gonna throws the receivers open.

516
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Speaker 1: He's gonna throw the ball. He's a he's a pocket quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the best, if not the best. You know,

518
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Speaker 1: I played with Payton Manny, so I gotta always you know,

519
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: I gotta always keep his sheriff right there. But you know,

520
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Speaker 1: if he if he's not number two, He's number one.

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Speaker 1: And that's in the history of you know, this game

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Speaker 1: that we play. And you know, you know I talked

523
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Speaker 1: to Tom, you know, he does so many different things. Well,

524
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Speaker 1: I feel like nutrition is one of the most important

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Speaker 1: things when it when it comes to playing in the

526
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Speaker 1: National Football League a long time. I think nutrition and

527
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: risk really could go a long way for y'all. Of course,

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00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: I got multiple body work guys, multiple you know, um gurus,

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Speaker 1: and multiple guys that I that I work with. That

530
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: just comes with it, you know. But I think the

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Speaker 1: nutrition is really the number one thing when it comes

532
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Speaker 1: to playing a long time and really, you know, working

533
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: on an anti age because father time is father time

534
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: is gonna always win. But if you eat right and

535
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: you get the right foods, you can kind of slow

536
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: things down, you know, from a from an age perspective,

537
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: and you know, you can heal faster, you can you know,

538
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: stay healthy long injuries that you know it might be

539
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: you know, a week or two weeks shut, I'd only

540
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: be one or two days if you have if you

541
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: truly on top of your nutrition, and it's not just

542
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: stake every single night or it's not just you know,

543
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: vegetarian or vegan. I think it's the time and place

544
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: for all of these things that we have. Nutrition and

545
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: once you figure it out, once you figure out your

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Speaker 1: body type, I think you can really unlock you know,

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00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: a couple more years. Well yeah, and for you guys,

548
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: a couple more years can be forty million bucks. I

549
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: mean that the reality is there's a financial motivation if

550
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Speaker 1: you if a guy didn't even love football, but love

551
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: what football provided for him, you could still make an

552
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: argument it's just smart. You know, you add COVID early

553
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: on and obviously you've overcome it. Ninety percent of NBA players,

554
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: ninety percent of football players have gotten vaccinated. The media

555
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: mostly talks about, you know, the small percentage that hasn't,

556
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: and I do wonder. I always feel like it my

557
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: company has taken care of it. I don't have to

558
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: go to an employee and say, dude, you need to

559
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: get vaccinated because my company is taken care of it.

560
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: The NFL does not have a mandate. It just makes

561
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: it really tough if you don't get vaccinated because you

562
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: had COVID. Is there part of you that thinks, hey,

563
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell these young guys who are on the

564
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: fence about it because you're a leader, you're a voice

565
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: in the locker room that resonates, you're a Hall of

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00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: Fame level player. Do you ever feel like is it

567
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: your place? Is it not your place? Where do you

568
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: land with COVID? If a kid comes up, he's a

569
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: second third year player and he's just not comfortable with it.

570
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to force anybody to do

571
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: anything that I don't want to do. You know, I

572
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: just you know, I could just echo, you know some

573
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: of the things that you know are are great about

574
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: some of the things that you don't have to worry about,

575
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, with these vaccines, and you know, I can

576
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: always agree with people that that they don't want to get,

577
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: you know, vaccinated. It's um. You know, it's a science

578
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: behind you know, why you shouldn't get vaccinated, why you

579
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't get vacinated, whichever side you pick, um. You know.

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00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: For me, you know, I just had a I had

581
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: a young sign. You know, I'm here with these guys

582
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: every single day. You know, I still want it to freedom,

583
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: to be able to go in and out and you know,

584
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: really live my life. And like you said, the NFL,

585
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: they make it extremely tough. If if you're not vaccinated,

586
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: really the whole world, you don't make supreme. And then

587
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, football is already tough enough. Football

588
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: is already hard enough to do without all these things

589
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: outside of football. And you know, if if you're you know,

590
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: not vaccinated, and uh, you know, you have to worry

591
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: about you know this, and these restrictions to sitting over

592
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: here and flying on this part of the plane, or

593
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: when you go to the hotel you can't leave, or

594
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: you can't see your families. It really just adds to

595
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: your ability to play football. Some people are able, you know,

596
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: handle all of that stuff. Some people are you know,

597
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: For me, I want I wanted to make everything as

598
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: easy as possible for me to be able to play football,

599
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: and I wanted things to be as easy as possible

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00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: for me to be around my son as well. So

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Speaker 1: I had, you know, I had a lot of you

602
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: know factors around it that that really, um, you know,

603
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: influenced me to go do it. But you know, I understand,

604
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, guys are on both sides of it. You know,

605
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: it's a new thing. You know, I understand everybody's position

606
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: on all this stuff is just for me personally, You

607
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: know that was a decision. I mean, you know, it's interesting.

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00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: In basketball, chemistry is really important, von because there's thirteen

609
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: guys about seven to eight play. All your meetings are together,

610
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: all the practices together. Football is different. Man at halftime,

611
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: sometimes offensive guys go to the left door, defensive guys

612
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: go to the right door. Special teams guys and practice

613
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: are on another part of the field. So in basketball,

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00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: it's understood chemistry is really important. If you have one

615
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: bad dude in the locker room, it can blow the

616
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: team up. Football is different. In your career, does chemistry

617
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: matter that much? Or can you have clicks in football?

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00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always been a team guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've always been the guy that I mean, my best

620
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: friend on the team is Brandon mcmannus. He's a kicker.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not like that's that's not like you know,

622
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: it usually wouldn't happened like that. But for me, you know,

623
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: I just I love you know, um, I love the

624
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: element of team, especially in National Football League. You know,

625
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: I nick it with the free agents. I mean I

626
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: kick it with the undrafted guys. You know, I kick

627
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: it with the long snapper. I kick it with you Courtland,

628
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: Sutton and you know Teddy Teddy Bridgewater and all the

629
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: big time guys on the team, and I kick it

630
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: with the guys that you know just came as well.

631
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: So for me, I really enjoy like a team element

632
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: of football. So I have. Of course, it's clicks in

633
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: the locker room, of course, is little groups and little

634
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: locker room sessions. But for me, I gravitate around and

635
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like the glue that brings everybody together.

636
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: And I feel like if I played like a different position,

637
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: it probably wouldn't be like that. If I wasn't you

638
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: know the funny I am, it probably be different. It'll

639
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: probably be tough for like Courtland or anybody else to

640
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: have that same type of relationship with everybody on the team.

641
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: But for me, this is what I've been doing since

642
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: literal league football. It is who I was in Texas

643
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: A and M, and it's who I've been my limit

644
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: years in national football. Usually you don't have the the linebacker,

645
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: the franchise linebacker, and the kicker being best friends. I'm his,

646
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: he's my he's my son's godfather, and his twins godfather's will.

647
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things that that really

648
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: highlights the type of you know person that I am.

649
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm such a social guy, especially you know in the

650
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: locker room. Where the locker room, we get to do

651
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: things and we get to talk about stuff, and we

652
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: get to hang out and we get to do things

653
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: that people would never ever see, Like people would never

654
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: have these type of relationships that we have in the

655
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: lock chrome. I don't care if you and I don't

656
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: care if you on a basketball team, soccer team, like

657
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: football is just different. You know, it's funny. A Keep

658
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: to Leaves a friend of mine and a key I

659
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: asked him one time because he loved playing in Denver

660
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: No Fly zone, and he said he was a social guy.

661
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: And he talked about how social the Denver the no

662
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: fly zone. That was the word he used. Like you,

663
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: He's like, we were just we were just a social team.

664
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: And and it's it's and Keep's like he's like you,

665
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: he's a talker. He's he's just verbal. He just wants

666
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: to talk to dudes. Now he's you guys could be

667
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: totally different. Um, but but it is funny. You have

668
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: to when when a defense has a nickname, you know,

669
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: it's damn good because there's not many nicknames on defense.

670
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: When you were when you when you were part of

671
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: the No Fly Zone, do you remember thinking, because this

672
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: defense has a chance to be really special now that

673
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: you have Fuller and Patrick Certanic corner did when you

674
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: were on the field, did you feel, like Vaughan, that's

675
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: one of the top five defenses maybe ever, that you

676
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: control the game, the defense control the game. Could you

677
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: sense it? Could you could you sense offenses were frustrated?

678
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: Like take me to the best year you've had, the

679
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: best defensive year you ever played, and what it's like. Yeah,

680
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean that I have to be twenty and fifteen

681
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: with the different Broncos and No Flowers are as, will

682
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: and we just had all the different elements to have

683
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: a dominant defense. You know, you have to have that

684
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: swag to be a dominant defense. You have to have

685
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: that confidence that was a No Flowers Zone key to

686
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: league or if he says he's gonna do something, he's

687
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna do it, or he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna

688
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: die trying to do it. Then you mix a key

689
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: to lead with Chris Harris. Chris Harris as a verbal

690
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: guy as will Um and then you have the two

691
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: slobber knockers with with with Dorian Stewart and t J. Ward,

692
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: so we can back up everything that we're talking about,

693
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: you know. And then we got the rush to We

694
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: got the rush for me and to Marcus and Derek

695
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Wolfe and Malie Jackson. And then we had guys off

696
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: the ball. We had linebackers that could cover, had linebackers

697
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: that can blitz with with Brandon Marsha, Brandon Marsha, Todd Davis,

698
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: Danny Trevadan. You know, these guys, they could do anything

699
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: that you'd ask him do linebrecker wise, and we just

700
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: had all the elements we had. We had a smart

701
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: play caller and Um we had a he experienced play

702
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: caller as well with with coach Phillips. Um coach Kubyak

703
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: was one of the coaches that no other coach could

704
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: could coach that team like coach Kobyak did. He just

705
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: was a great He was able to relate to everybody

706
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: on that team. He was able to talk and get

707
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: the most out of everybody on that team. And this

708
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: team had paid Manning and keep to leave you know myself.

709
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: You know, we had Dana turbakan we had people from

710
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: all different walks of life, and coach Kubyak was the

711
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: guy that really managed everybody and had everybody on the

712
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: same page. Um. But back to that defense, Keith to

713
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: Lead was definitely the confidence of that team. You know,

714
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: he he was definitely he was definitely calmed to that team.

715
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: He was said whatever in the media say what real

716
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: out in public and we were like the guys like, yeah,

717
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: Keith Delie said that, we don't go out there and

718
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: do it. And I remember, I remember playing up. I

719
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: remember two weeks before the Super Bowl and Kei it

720
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: was our first time watching the film with the Carolina Panthers,

721
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: and Kei was like, yeah, we got this, so we're

722
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: gonna lock down. We're gonna lock down the receivers. Ain't

723
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: got nothing for us, but then lock down their receivers

724
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: and it just started one day and just created this

725
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: confidence like it, Yeah, they undefeated, but Keeps said that

726
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna lock down the corners and all we gotta

727
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: do is rush. And if all I had to do

728
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: is rush, and I feel pretty good and my chances

729
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: to rush, like the keep to League was saying in

730
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: the public, in the locker room, whatever that We're gonna

731
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: lock it down their receivers. That was that was a

732
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: huge element of the game that was already taken out

733
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: of the game. You know, we had Chris Harrison keeps

734
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: the league. We had Brandy Robe. He was a young

735
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: he was a young guy and he was a strap

736
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: artist as will. And we had all of these guys,

737
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: and you know, the confidence really came from a key.

738
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: I think. Then the forces were you know, t J

739
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: Ward and Dorian Stewart. Tej was a big hitter. We

740
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: had the Marcus where, you know, one of the one

741
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: of the best pass verses that ever played this in

742
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: the National Football League. And I was I was his

743
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: his robbing, you know, he was Batman of robbing whatever

744
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, game, whatever stuff we watched on him. He

745
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: would tend me to do and I would do it.

746
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: He never led me, He never led me and um,

747
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: he never led me in a bad direction. He said,

748
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: all he had to do is do this. That's what

749
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: I did. It didn't work. And then we had big

750
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: guys to take you know, the Chris Yaw for us

751
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: in the middle, with Malie Jackson and Derek Wolf and

752
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: Tonio Samil. You know, let's just goes on and on

753
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: and on. We we were just super stacked. We had

754
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: the confidence, we had to swag, we had the intelligence,

755
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 1: we had to experience, We had everything that it took

756
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: to be a dominant defense for sure. When Um, when

757
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: you were out with an ankle injury, UM, and you

758
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: said earlier, you know, there are some moments of like

759
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: anxiety did it? And I'm not saying you're gonna play

760
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: as long as Brady, but was there a moment when

761
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: you realized how much do you missed? Yeah? You know,

762
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: and you know I started, Uh. I worked with uh,

763
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, Trevor Mallat like before and Peace rist in

764
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: Peace Trevor I UM worked with Trevor um at the

765
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: beginning of two thousand and uh in the beginning of

766
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty. And we always talk about mindset

767
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: is everything, and UM, he's the semi videos. I'm like

768
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: because successfully exclues is one of the things that he

769
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: would always say. Yeah, I would watch all these videos

770
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: on people that had success after injuries. UM. I had

771
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: watched it. I had told my ACL two in twenty

772
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: and thirteen, so I was familiar with Asian Peterson's UM

773
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: recovery after his acl he went, he went for two

774
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: thousand yards after but I had a whole video on

775
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: what Asian Peterson did his mindset. And for me, I

776
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: had trained so hard going into you know, I mean,

777
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: if I it was just it was just a perfect

778
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: storm of things for me. I was working with Trail,

779
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, I was working on the perform the mental

780
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: performance aspect of it. Um COVID hit, you know, I

781
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: got COVID. I overcame COVID. I didn't have anything else

782
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: to do but work out in train. I work out

783
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: and training got myself in the best physical shape that

784
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: I can possibly be. And I think, and I think

785
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: mental shape is where I was in the best mental

786
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: space that I could possibly be in. Um So, whenever

787
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: I tore my rinaculum on my ankle, it was kind

788
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: of it was it was depressing at first, but right

789
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: after that, I think, you know, Kovie had died earlier

790
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: in that year, um you know, Michael Jordan had his

791
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: Saved the Lands Dance you know documentary as well, And

792
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: I just had this this my pit of things that

793
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: like motivated me to keep going. You know, if it

794
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: was any other year, if it was any of the circumstances.

795
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: Maybe it's you know, you know, I don't play ten years.

796
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: You know, this might be you know, it's might be

797
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: it for me. But I just I just felt like

798
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: I wasn't content, you know, I felt like it was

799
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: so much more for me to prove um. I played

800
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: all the way through training camp, and I was so

801
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: pleased with my performance in training camp with my body

802
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: and you know where I was at, and whenever, whenever

803
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: I had my ankle injury, it just like I never

804
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: thought about like giving up. It was like, Okay, this

805
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: is gonna take me out for this period of time.

806
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do after this? You know, what

807
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: would Kobe do? What would Michael Jordan do? You know

808
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: what what type of mindset do you have? Like, you know,

809
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: I had the different moroncos they believed in me. They

810
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: picked them, mom, they picked them all option didn't They

811
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: didn't have to do that. You know, I was coming

812
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: off the injury. You know, I had so many other

813
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: things go on. George Payton could have just you know,

814
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: just saying, oh, you know Vunch played ten years here.

815
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: He was a great moronco but you know, he didn't

816
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: have anything else to go off of. But you know

817
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: my training camp field man, you know, he watched that.

818
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: He believed in me, brought me back. He felt like

819
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: I could be, you know, even better player than I was.

820
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: Coach Fangio. You know he believed in me as well.

821
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: And you know all these guys believed in me. I

822
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: had all these things motivating me and whatever I got

823
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: a chance to get back on the football field, you know,

824
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna let those people down. I wasn't gonna

825
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: let myself down. Most importantly, and you know here we

826
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: are by the way before we go, is that mj documentary.

827
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: It was really inspiring to me for different reasons. I

828
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: was telling my wife this. He was the best looking player,

829
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: the best player, the most clutch player, the most glamorous player,

830
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: the most talented player, and it was so hard. He

831
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: was in battles. He was with his own teammates, and

832
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: I told my wife, like, success is hard. Like Michael Jordan,

833
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: he had, you know, I mean, the best shoes, the

834
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: best look, the best game, the mess, and it was

835
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: still hard. He was battling his GM, he was battling Rod,

836
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: but he was battling Pip and he was like many he'say,

837
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: so it is. It is crazy, man. There's some guys. Von,

838
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: You're probably one of these guys physically. There are guys

839
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: that have a DNA. They're just relentless. Like I I

840
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: watch Aaron Donald and he's the only defensive lineman I've

841
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: ever seen. He doesn't take a playoff like a lot

842
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: of times those guys are carrying three hun or twenty

843
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: five pounds, they'll take plays off. Like I watched Aaron Donald,

844
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: you got this component. Randy Moss had some of this.

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Speaker 1: You're like, that dude is different, right, see Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald really not like a d tackle. He's really

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Speaker 1: like he's really like an oversized running back. He's an

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Speaker 1: athletic enough. He's really like a running back, and he's

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Speaker 1: super strong. And when you put his athletic ability and

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Speaker 1: his strength and his leverage that he has because one

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Speaker 1: of his knocks when he's coming out is even small.

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Speaker 1: But that as Tom came over, it plays into the

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Speaker 1: type of game and he plays. He has so much liverage,

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Speaker 1: he has so much he has so much explosive you

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Speaker 1: know ability, and he's really like a running back in

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Speaker 1: there with playing against these guards in these centers. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's unfair. Well, one time ray Lewis told me

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Speaker 1: that Willie RoAF of Kansas City. He was like, Colin,

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Speaker 1: you can't even. It's country strong, Like I couldn't even.

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Speaker 1: And ray lewis one of the great players. Has there

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Speaker 1: ever been one offensive lineman that van You're just like, okay,

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Speaker 1: that that's genetics, Like I can't, I can't move him.

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Speaker 1: You know, the officer alument I go that. You so

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Speaker 1: all the big time office lumen, like you know, Tyron Smister,

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Speaker 1: the Lane Johnson is the you know, the Williams. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, going against those guys. You you preparing

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Speaker 1: for these guys all year. You know. For me, I

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Speaker 1: think the toughest challenge for me was Mentor Sports. And

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect it, really, you wouldn't. You wouldn't expect it.

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Speaker 1: Um And I think mister Sports having a quarterback like

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes that can really play to you know, mints angles.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had the toughest time with with mister Sports.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm really surprised that he's not on the

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Speaker 1: team right now because I always had the toughest time

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Speaker 1: with mentroal Sports. I think he's the one officers alment

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Speaker 1: that only he only gave me one like sack wow.

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Speaker 1: He he would always it would always be so tough

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Speaker 1: to play mentor sports. And then the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes and everybody else hands was it hands?

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Speaker 1: Was it le? I don't know it was he was

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Speaker 1: a smaller, he was a smaller officer. Yes, he was

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Speaker 1: a smaller officer along one, but he just I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I just maybe I was in my own head. I

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Speaker 1: always had such I always had the toughest time with

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Swarts, and I would see other guys have success

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Speaker 1: versus Mitchell sports, but whenever I went against them, and

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Speaker 1: would I would, it would be the weirdest thing for me.

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Speaker 1: Like any movie I would try. He would be sitting

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Speaker 1: on there and anything any good rush that I would have.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes would you know he would trump that and

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Speaker 1: you know scrambler, you know, throw the ball the way.

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Speaker 1: But playing against Mitchell Swarts and the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: was always a tough, you know time for me. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what it was. And it's shocking to me

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Speaker 1: that that Mitchell Swartz is not on the team right

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Speaker 1: now because I know he's said, that's a good football.

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Speaker 1: But Vaughan, we took some time. We appreciate it. You

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Speaker 1: were great, kicked butut this weekend against the Ravens and

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. Thanks, appreciate you all right, man,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Von Miller gonna be a first ballot

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, truly one of the great football players

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Speaker 1: last twenty year. He's in the NFL. Glad he's healthy

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Speaker 1: and back. Glad the Broncoles are undefeated. Good story at

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