1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Today's something in the Command Center podcast. 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: We gotta yet going because Dad Quinn's in the building. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: Raise hell stars right now? What the Demand Center podcast. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm loving Paulson here with Fred Smooth and Santana Moss 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: And as always we are presented by Cognitian Technology, Secure 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Today and Shape Tomorrow. We've got a very special show today. 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: Yes we do. Why is that friend, the one and 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: only Coach Quinn. 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 4: Coach Quinn will be gracing us within his prisons today 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 4: is we pick his brain on what makes a commander 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 4: a command? 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: That's exactly right? And I think you know, to kind 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: of lead into that conversation, Our risk It for the 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Biscuit today is about cultivating championship culture. Culture right, So 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: in terms of risk it for the Biscuit, it's like 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: we're risking building a championship culture because a lot of 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: people have tried it, a lot of people haven't done well. 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah and so and as always that segment, Risking for 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: the Biscuit is presented by Marsha mclenn an Agency, your 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: partner in risk and People's strategies. So to me, I 21 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: guess the the first thing to just kind of touch 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: on Hile's highest the bubbles. Is what is good culture? 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 4: Well, it's the good culture stores off like this first 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: of all, presented by cog Nere Technology. 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: What are you talking about over there? 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: Scared of mine? Because I feel like you lifted out. 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: I said it already my job. I just feel like double. 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: I'm just double checking to make sure he's doing his. 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: Toes because yeah, because that's important. They paid the bills. 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: You got to pay this man, So if I missed it, 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: and if we didn't, we got a double. 32 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: And if you missed it, that mean you risk it 33 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: for the biscuits. This is what I'm telling you. 34 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: So everything's rubbing by Marshall clear. You could do these 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: sponsors for us. 36 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: By Logan Strad. Yeah, these ams are brought to you. 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: This is what happened when you work out with loads. 38 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Don't say that myself wants that to happen. Belly deerbelly 39 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: and bad bags. Man, I'm not selling that. That's not 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: something I want to put my stamp on. So yeah, 41 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: good culture, good culture? What is it? I mean? 42 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: Like? 43 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: Because this easy as said, then described and done. You 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: know it till you see it. It's like a good marriage, 45 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 4: like you know one when you see it, and the 46 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 4: recipe to their good marriage might not be the recipe. 47 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: To yea to the next person's. 48 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: I think culture is one of those things that you 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: can identify and not even be a part of what's 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: going on, you know what I mean, Like you can 51 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: be you can be a person on the outside looking 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: in and say, oh, they got they got, they got 53 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: they got something over there. And you heard some of 54 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: the guys, some of the new you know, acquisitions, like 55 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: they was like, bro, like you're the I think it 56 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: was a name, Josh Josh Jones or Jonathan Jones. Jonathon 57 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: Jones said, Man, I'm watching these guys playing. How they 58 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: went after each other on you know, how they kind 59 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: of you know, flew around to the football and how 60 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: they you know, they basically communicated with each other and 61 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: not on just one side of the ball as a 62 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: team as a whole. He's like, you can see every 63 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: man for each other. They plan for one another. They're 64 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: not just out there freelancing trying to be me me 65 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: me players and go out there and you know, get 66 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: get sacks or you know, make stops on their own 67 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: or do things individually. And you asked the question about 68 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: coaches because a lot of times in the NFL, you 69 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: don't get those. Many the teams that win the Super Bowls, 70 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: they have a coach, coach, they have a stand. 71 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: We've seen it. 72 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: And we've been on teams that have in won, so 73 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: you can see what it's not like. It's not you 74 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: know what I mean, when it's not there in college, 75 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: I feel like I've had that, and I remember it 76 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: was just like one band, one sound like we all 77 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: moved to the same beat. 78 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: And like I said before, we didn't have to tell 79 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: each other to do it. It was built in, you 80 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 81 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: We just knew in order for me to make this squad, 82 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: in order for me to have to play my part 83 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: of what we're trying to do and who we're trying 84 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: to be, I have to do X, Y Z. And 85 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: I think that's what you see here from from the 86 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: from from day one, we've seen these guys step on 87 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: that field and you can be like we've been here. 88 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: So we was like, oh, it's something different. 89 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 4: If I had to put it in words statements, I 90 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: guess I started out with the first one. 91 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 3: If I had to start off with the first word, 92 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: thank you. 93 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: It'll be selfless when you get a fifty three selfless dudes. 94 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: And if I had to put it in a phrase, Santana, 95 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: you will know exactly what movie this phrase came from. 96 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 4: Am I my brother's keeping Yes, I am. And when 97 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 4: you have that meaning, I'm playing for y'all, y'all playing 98 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: for me. 99 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: I got your back. No matter what. 100 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: You can Philly walking through the building, you can feel 101 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: it because it's a tricker down effect that goes with teacher. 102 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: Like I'm always truthful about my coach. 103 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: When I first got drafted to the league, my first 104 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 4: head coach was Marty Sharton Hunt. Marty is a disciplinarian, 105 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: kind of military rich. He was kind of like that, 106 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: but you could talk to him and I thrive under that. 107 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 4: Still gonna let me be myself. I don't mind being 108 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: coach hard. I don't mind being put out there. My 109 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: next coach was Coach Spurry. All right, I love the 110 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: old ball coach had fun losing with the whole. 111 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying, lose it not. 112 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 4: Because he wasn't a good coach, because he had no 113 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 4: culture he didn't bring. 114 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: He brought a college culture from Florida. 115 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 4: With most of the college coaches, Marvin Lewis was one 116 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 4: of the few UH pro coaches we had, and him 117 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: and Marvin bumped heads all the time about how. 118 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: Things are being done. 119 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: But you can't blame coach for that because he hadn't 120 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: been in the pros yet. So it's like sometime it 121 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: goes with doubt saying and sometimes people walk in and 122 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: a coach of follows them. Then Quinn walked in and 123 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: his culture followed him. The way he treats people followed him, 124 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: the way people respect him followed him. 125 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: That's difference. 126 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, just I was writing something when we 127 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: were talking, because it is culture is like a weird 128 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: thing to talk about, can't touch a feeling. And one 129 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: of my favorite things you said in that whole he 130 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: said a lot of really good b other you guys 131 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: said like it stuff. But it's like a mayor, right, 132 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: what works for one person's marriage doesn't work for your marriage, right, 133 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: And I think it's different situational dependent, but in terms 134 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: of tenants, right, I do think there's a selflessness in 135 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: which you talked about one band, one sound, people all 136 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: pulling together, kind of working in the same direction. And 137 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: then it sounds like there's a disciplinary, disciplinary standard to 138 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: a certain extent. So even like, you know, people talk 139 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: about how he's a Bill Belichick style coach, means he's 140 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 1: very austere and very militant. But also like there's Mike Channon, 141 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: who's a player's coach. And I felt like in twenty 142 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: twelve and like we had a really good culture here, right, 143 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: and it was a little bit more flexible, you know 144 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I think the one underlying tenant 145 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: of both of those things, right, and what makes it 146 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: work is that if you win, you got a good culture, 147 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: get a good coach. 148 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: Is that? 149 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean, would you guys agree with that? I do? 150 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: But they started out winning with Coach Giels, but they 151 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: knew we had a good coach. 152 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you got. You definitely got to. Yeah, 153 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: that's a great point. You got to build to it. 154 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: But I got. But let's let's say say, for example, 155 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: like you had been with coach Gibbs and you'd lost 156 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: five games, like you had five losing seasons, right, at 157 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: some point you're like, even though this feels right, it's 158 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: not getting us. 159 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: We're not We're not we're not turning to pay and 160 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: some and some of the time it's just because you're 161 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: missing a couple of players to add to what you like, 162 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: you can have the right program. You know, we've seen 163 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: many of teams that have, Like you talk to guys 164 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: that's been around this league, and you could come from 165 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: a team where you had a bunch of you know, 166 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: all Stars or Pro Bowl caliber guys. They might not win. Yeah, 167 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: if you ain't winning with those guys, then you know, 168 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: what's the use of having them? Then you then you 169 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: see those guys on other teams where they don't have 170 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 2: the players, but man, they. 171 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: Have the coaching staff. 172 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: They you know, they have the unity, they have everything 173 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: that you will want to be a part of. But 174 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: it's just not enough playmakers on that on on either 175 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: side of the football to allow them to get over 176 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: the hump. So there's both things could be right, you 177 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: see what I'm saying, Like you can have a culture 178 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: and not win, and you can also have good players 179 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: and not having coach. 180 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, because that what they did here the year before 181 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: I got here. They got bout the Dana Stubblefield. They 182 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 4: put together all star team on paper, but they never 183 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 4: developed what's. 184 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: More sustainable having a culture or having a player culture. 185 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: The play is gonna come and go. 186 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think that's something else too, is like 187 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: when you're building a team, Like I've thought about this 188 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: a lot, and it's just team building, just construction in general. 189 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: Like you can get the best twenty two players in 190 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: the world on one team, you're probably gonna be pretty good, 191 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: but they might not jive, right, so they might actually 192 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: be worse than some of their parts. And when Tenna 193 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: said like one band one sound like when you get again, 194 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: I think back to twenty twelve, which is the best 195 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: season I had at any level of football in my 196 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: whole life, right, So it was like you got a 197 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: bunch of dudes that were like, maybe not the biggest names, 198 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: like I think about the Old Line, I think about 199 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: the receiving corps, like not a bunch of like households, yeah, 200 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: but like they just played ball hard, they bought in, 201 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: they played for each other, yeah, And there's something really 202 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: cool about that. And I do think in the NFL 203 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: that's like that's the ideal, right, and you can get 204 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: there through a disciplinarian but like play for each other basically, right, 205 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: And I think so that's what Dan did here last year. 206 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: But the thing that gets me, it's like it's really 207 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: hard to do that in the NFL because there's so 208 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: many other variables that come into it. 209 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: And that's what a coach job is to do. Change 210 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: my purpose. Everybody got a purpose. Everybody got a purpose. 211 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: To play when they play in this game. 212 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 4: And usually from the time we're small, as much as 213 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: we want that money, we just want to be in 214 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: the NFL, like we want to get to the big games, 215 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: and we want to play in the big games, all right, 216 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 4: So it started out very honest. 217 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: I just want to be a pro, prove that I 218 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: could play with pros. 219 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: Then come on, you can't run from the fact that 220 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: it's financially there want if you're a coach and you 221 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: can get fifty three guys to push the financials to 222 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: the side and say, y'all all get paid if we 223 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: do that, if we get to the point that we 224 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: are successful. That's what the best coaches do. Coach Gibbs 225 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: didn't have to say a word. You never heard a 226 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: player go against coach Gibbs with financials because he running 227 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: that house too clean? 228 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: Is that because you felt like Coach Gibbs cared about you, 229 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: He cared about it. Did he cared about it? 230 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 2: The first, I think too of Fridge trying to say, 231 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: is that when you show a player that you know 232 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: what I'm the move I'm making is it's going to 233 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: better you and better us, then you don't have to 234 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 2: question them. 235 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. 236 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: I think about the thing that Mike did with you. 237 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And I had to 238 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: had to grow on me, you know, like but at 239 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: the same time. 240 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: Don't listen to the podcast like Tanner went from basically 241 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: the two. 242 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: So I was I was the guy for a long time. 243 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: Already Mike comes in Mike first two years, I was 244 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: still the guy. 245 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: Mike Shanahans. 246 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: I was still twenty ten, I still was the number 247 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: one receiver. Two thousand and eleven, I was still number 248 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: one receiver. But that twenty eleven seasons when I broke 249 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: my hand that season and paying out the way I 250 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: wanted to be. Coming in twenty twelve, we bringing Pierre 251 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: and a bunch of young talent, and they, like Tanner, 252 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: just watching you over the years, you're in too much. 253 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: You don't necessarily have to be in as much. You 254 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: still can separate, You still can do it, do all 255 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: this stuff the best. But you're getting older. I want 256 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: to save your legs. I'm gonna make you a slot receiver. 257 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: So what you think about that, Nah, coach, I ain't 258 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: think about that. No, I'm telling you this is gonna 259 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: be better. And as a player, you know, like I'm 260 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: not that. I'm not the me and me guy. I've 261 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: never been him. But I love this game and I 262 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: only play it one way, and I'm only gonna go 263 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: out there, and as much as I want to be 264 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: that guy, I'm going to do what's right for us, 265 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: especially if it's going to still benefit me. So when 266 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: he broke it down at that level and say, well, Tennant, 267 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: look now you're coming in on third down when the 268 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: ball is going to either you or one of the 269 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: guys on the outside, said that you being in there, 270 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: And then I thought about it. You know, as a 271 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: ball player, I'm like, well, you're right, you know, I 272 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: am getting up there. But the key word he said 273 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: was this is going to extend your career. This is 274 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: going to help you play more years. And then I 275 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: was sold, you know what I mean. So you get 276 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: guys that might might get it that way, and then 277 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: you get some guys that just screw what you're saying, Coach, 278 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm this guy. 279 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: I gotta beat this guy. 280 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 2: And if if you don't like it, didn't send me 281 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: else world or cut me, you know. 282 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that hits on two things that 283 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: I think are really interesting. One, obviously, Mike cared about you, 284 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: but also you have to have the right kind of 285 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: people in the building, you know what I'm saying. They 286 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: like the jive with the culture. You know, like not 287 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: everybody could play in New England when Tom Brady was 288 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: there because Bill Belichick was an absolute psycho. Like it 289 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: just it sounds like it was like the worst spot 290 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: in the world to work. 291 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: Very militant. 292 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, you need to make sure that a 293 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: you've got someone who cares and is motivated by you, 294 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: but also someone who who fits right. And I think 295 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: when you look at the culture here that they've built 296 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: right Obviously, like the things you're talking about, Dan's able 297 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: to show that he cares about players because he does that's. 298 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: Very personal movie. 299 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: They've also brought in guys that I think I think 300 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: can that that that relates to you know what I mean, 301 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: that they understand it and they're they're willing to make 302 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: some compromises and do some different things. Is their team first, guys, 303 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: It's already like inherently part. 304 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: Of to say when you go out there and the 305 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: guys that you're signing and drafting from college our captains. 306 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: The guys that you're picking cherry picking from other people's 307 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 4: teams are captains. They no sacrifice, they know leadership, they 308 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: understand other guys. So he's going out and saying, I 309 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: don't need the best athlete. I don't need everybody on 310 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: my team to run a four to three flat. What 311 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 4: I need everybody on my team to do is hold 312 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: each other accountably. Accountability is more than ability to him. 313 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 4: To me, accountability is better than ability because he feels like, 314 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 4: if you got to this level, you already got ability. 315 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: I just need your ability plus accountability. I won't take 316 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 4: it just one. 317 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: And that's what you see. I mean, that's exactly what 318 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: you see from day one. Just how you know it's 319 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: one thing of watching us have a down year, but 320 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: then having a guy with double digit. 321 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: Sacks and you say, we damn, he's doing so good. 322 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: What about everybody? What about everybody else? 323 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: And then you realize when you watch that one unit 324 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: together they'll say, what it's sacks went down, but we 325 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: get more stops. 326 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we winning more games. You winning more games. Yes, 327 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: you see what I'm saying. 328 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: And then it shows you like, oh, they're playing together, yes, 329 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: instead of this guy out here just doing his own 330 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: things because he has to be a oper talent to 331 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: go out there. And yeah, those double digital sounds. But 332 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: when you that's not to say that you're not that 333 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: same talented guy. When your sex go down, it just 334 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: says you're playing within the defensive structure. 335 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 4: Now that you brought that up, I remember two veterans 336 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 4: getting into it when I was a young pup, when 337 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: we was Rookystown. Many people everybody knows Bruce s Mill 338 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: the universal sack leader. Well when Bruce is here, when 339 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: I get here, Bruce is thirty odd sacks, twenty odd 340 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: sacks away from getting his sack record. 341 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: Marco Coleman is the other defensive end on the other side. 342 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: Marco plays full football, the run, game, everything. Now I'm 343 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: on the side of Bruce s Mill and Bruce Smith 344 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: is swimming people. First down, Well, this is a rundown, 345 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 4: but you're swimming people, you know what I'm saying. 346 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: But in the back of here. We know he wants this. 347 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, So him and Michael get on getting edited on 348 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: the sideline and Michael said, I know how bad you 349 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 4: want this second record, but the rest does want to 350 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: win this game today. 351 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: Today we want good leadership. 352 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: This with Michael coln Wall great leader. 353 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: Could you imagine the like the like the courage I 354 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: want to say something else, but the courage it would 355 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: take to go up to Bruce Smith yes and be like, bro, 356 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: like get it together. 357 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: Like bro, you're swimming people on first day and the 358 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: sweeping to one like, don't do that. 359 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: That's cool. I got kind of chill, Like it's so funny. 360 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: In my old age, man, I get chills think about 361 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: stuff like that because I know how hard it is 362 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: for someone to go up to that guy and be like, hey, 363 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: that ain't right. You know what I mean, don't do that. 364 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: That's that's just like you've being a receiver and. 365 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: You know what's going on in the secondary and you're 366 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: watching it and you older now so you you really 367 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: see it and you're like, okay, I should be open 368 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: right now, and then you turn around the quarterback ain't 369 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: looking at you like that. It makes you like, well, damn, 370 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: we ain't got a chance because if you didn't read what. 371 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: I just read, I want to run. We ain't got 372 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 373 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: You have to see this because I see it, and 374 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: we all know pre sing out read is different from 375 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: once you hike the ball. 376 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: But if I if I hike that ball, when I 377 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: go back and. 378 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: Watch film, and if I see that, like everything still 379 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: was wide open, like I said, and you don't get 380 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: the ball. Now you discouraged. I can't trust that guy, 381 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So that's that sounds just 382 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: like that, you. 383 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: Know that's it? Yeah, I mean, so that's a really 384 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: cool example of of of of culture. Right. And I 385 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: think the other thing I just like to ask you guys, 386 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: because you guys have been around it for a long time, right, 387 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: is you know how important is culture? How like do 388 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: you need culture to have a winning football team? 389 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 4: I think it gotta be somehow together. The coach is 390 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: the glue. 391 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: Those things about it, Like when you look at the 392 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Patriots look at Kansas City Chiefs, like they've got they're 393 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: different coaches. 394 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: But their coach. 395 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: But I can say I can say we've won, I've 396 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: won without a culture. 397 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: I wonder coach right here here. What did you say 398 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 4: you didn't have we didn't have coaching? Oh seven, we 399 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 4: didn't have a coach. You was here, Well, we didn't 400 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: have a coach. 401 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: We had good We had coaches that that was Coach 402 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: Gibbs was good. He was a great coach. But I 403 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: don't think we had a culture. I think our culture happened. 404 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: We had something that happened that brought us together. No, 405 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: he did, We brought up together. But the reason why 406 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: I say that because I'm saying, like when I hear culture, 407 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm hearing like like when I when I hear coature. 408 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: This is what I'm I'm envisioning. I'm envisioning guys doing 409 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: everything by the book. 410 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. 411 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: But I'm not saying it's not it's not that's not 412 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: gonna be. But I'm talking about not by the book 413 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: as in for what we should do to win games. 414 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: Here, You see what I mean. 415 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: Like I'm saying, like, you gotta you gotta coach Gibbs 416 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: to tell us this, and this is what I You 417 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: know you might have a coachure because he said this 418 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: all the time to us. I'm gonna let you be 419 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: men outside outside here as long as when you come 420 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: in here between the white lines, it's us, it's us. 421 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: So you know what, I kind of I'm a backpedal 422 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: that I think we did have it. It just wasn't 423 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: what I was used to elsewhere. 424 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: And I think it was one of them things where 425 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 4: coach Gibbs Coachure did not get to shine through one 426 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: because we didn't win at a super high clip and 427 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: he didn't have Jane Davis. Like, when you got one 428 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 4: of those, it make coach easy because now one of 429 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 4: the best players on my team is saying, all right, 430 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: that's how coach want to do it. I'm gonna do 431 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 4: it the same exact way Tom Brady made that coature. 432 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: And Tom made that coature and to bend it to 433 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: his wheel when he said, you know what, Peyton getting 434 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 4: had much money, I don't need that much. I'm gonna 435 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: need this guy. I'm gonna need that guy to beat him. 436 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: And that's why I kind of like brought that up 437 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 2: because I'm like, trust me, bro, Like I still feel 438 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: like I played on teams where guys was kind of loose, loosey, goosey, you. 439 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: See what I'm saying. 440 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: Like, And I played on teams where guys about the 441 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: guys knew that we want to do so much. You 442 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: know what I mean As a redskin, most of my 443 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: team every year almost it. 444 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: Was a guy. 445 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: It was guys like, man, I'm not here, I'm gonna 446 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: be the practice. I don't know I'm gonna give y'all. 447 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: I'm not I don't know if I'm gonna make it 448 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: to the practice, but I'm gonna be there. You see 449 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, to me, that's not a coachure 450 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: because most coaches let it be known like look, bro, 451 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 2: you can have your fun, but wait till we do it. 452 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: Wait till we do this first. It's gonna make it appropriate, 453 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 3: you know. 454 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: So. And when I look at like the last year team, 455 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 2: you know we was around all year long. 456 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: We was out. We ain't never see these guys. 457 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: So that to me, they had something here that say, man, 458 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: look we're gonna be all about football. Yeah, we can 459 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: go out and leave your house, but make sure you 460 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: leave me your house in close proximities where you can 461 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: get back to and. 462 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 4: Make if you need me to help you get home, 463 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: you call me like a coaching is connectivity? Do your 464 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: team has connectivity? This team last year had the same heartbeat. 465 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: They had connectivity through and through it showed. I thought 466 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: it showed more when they won lost, not when they won. 467 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 4: I thought it showed more when they was dusting themself 468 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: off and getting back up. When I think about culture, 469 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 4: first play come to my mind. 470 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: I think about Jane Damiens. 471 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 4: After running eight plays in a row, they call the 472 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 4: time out. He goes to the knee. Marcus Mariota goes 473 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 4: out there and say, get up, get up. They see 474 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 4: you down, they'll get down. That's cold you. And that's 475 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 4: a nun starter talking to a starter. Everybody would think, 476 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: oh no, it wasn't a hell mayor No, it ain't 477 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 4: to hear Mary, because everything we do before the game 478 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: and after that game is the only thing that makes 479 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 4: the game. 480 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I keep going back to like why like 481 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: and it's so nebulous, right because like you're winning games 482 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: with in two thousand and five, two thousand and seven, right, Tanna, 483 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: But you don't have the leadership, right. I think about 484 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: like you know, and it goes back to the standard 485 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: and like who's setting the standard. I think about Bobby, 486 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: I think about Zach, I think about Austin. I think 487 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: about Marcus. Guys that have been around the league for 488 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, and they said it, and I 489 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: think about us in twenty twelve, right, and everyone thinks so, 490 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: like Robert said, the culture, But it was really like 491 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: it was like Corey Lichtenstocker, it was you know, Santana 492 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: and Santana in London. Yeah, these guys that were like 493 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: then you could look to them like a lighthouse, you know, 494 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: to the dark outside. You look at me like, oh, hey, 495 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: that's the direction you gotta go, you know what I'm saying, 496 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: and like you do need you do need that. And 497 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: so like I think it's the standard of behavior of professionalism, right, 498 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: the selflessness. And I also think it's it's the connectivity, 499 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: like the friendship, because it allows me to pull people 500 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: with me, allows me to go to friend and be like, hey, man, 501 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: that I did and I'm not gonna and friend's not 502 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna be sensitive because we're friends. 503 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. 504 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, oh, and if. 505 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: You bringing it up to me, it must be serious. 506 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: So and that's why I know for a fact I 507 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: didn't have it two years here, oh five, I told 508 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: Joe file warmed up to get ice and everybody. 509 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: Was scattering, like literally, like, Bro, where y'all gone? 510 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 2: Well, I came by my room already, and we went 511 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 2: out there and kicked behind the next day and I'm like, 512 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: so damn what we got going on over here? 513 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 3: You can just be. 514 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: Loosey goosey, and it caught up to us at one 515 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: point in the game, one point of season. I love. 516 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: That's how you talk about it, though, because you're so 517 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: the opposite of that. 518 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, because I'm like, Bro. 519 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: But then I look at myself and I would agree 520 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: with you, Tanner, but like, I agree with you because. 521 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: That's how you operate. Yeah, that's how you operate. 522 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were bringing me up. She was 523 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 1: just watching. 524 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 5: He's right, I have been. I have been in the 525 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 5: bushy and I'm like, I just hit this boosh raight and. 526 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: Were waiting on in the cons pans and we can 527 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: go about doing it. And this is what he's talking about. 528 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, so like, I just came from New 529 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: York and I just told you I shared what you're 530 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: in New York. 531 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: Bro. 532 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: Three out of my four years there we won, and 533 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: that was a coach of there. It was a bunch 534 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: of older men and they and they showed us young 535 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: pupps what to do, how to practice, how to hang 536 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: out after practice, you know how while you can go 537 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: yet you in New York City, it's so much to do. 538 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: But they told us there's a time and the place. 539 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: And then there was a certain time of the week 540 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: where they say, Okay, once we get our work done, 541 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: go out Friday night, tim go I have your good 542 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 2: time Friday night. 543 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 3: But or go out Thursday night when you know Friday 544 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: not gonna be that hard. 545 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: All work there, you know, but make sure come by 546 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: the time we get in here Saturday, it's time to go, 547 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So when I got here, 548 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: having that, having those experiences as a young puppy I 549 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: got here was like, bro, I ain't never seen as 550 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: many people leaving or going guys in other rooms when 551 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: they wanted to play cards that they didn't necessarily leave 552 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: and or you know, leave out the hotel premises. 553 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: They just went to other rooms, play cards, hang out. 554 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 4: We can say it's hard for somebody to say I'm 555 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 4: bringing culture with me, because it's hard because the ingredients 556 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: ain't really you don't you just I know what I'm 557 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 4: gonna use to make s forget it. I know the ingredients, 558 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: ingredients to and do my car, which has to morph 559 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: and change. 560 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: Is my team changes over, dude. 561 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: I think that's one hundred percent right. Look at I 562 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: think Kansas City is a great example of this, right, 563 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: Like when Mahomes was young. 564 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: They was an offensive dominated team. 565 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: But it was a it was an offensive line running 566 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: back like they led the way right and then as 567 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: it switched he Mahomes and Travis Kelcey set the culture right, 568 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: like they set the standard. And thank God that they're 569 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: good standards and good role models right because that works. 570 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: And I think about and that's why I think what 571 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: Dan and Adam did here was so and we're gonna 572 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: talk about it with him in a second, which is 573 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: gonna be so fun, was so unique because Dan knows 574 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: what good culture is. Yes, he brings a standard, but 575 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: I can stand up in front of a room of 576 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: people who've never seen the standard before and it's going 577 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: to fall on deafeers. You need people in the room. 578 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: And so I think back to when Ron was here, 579 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: and again this is not a bag on wrong time, 580 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: but one of the things about Ron is he when 581 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: he talked round. He knew what a culture was, but 582 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: he got rid of Ryan Kerry coach you guys. He 583 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: got rid of guys that could help you get that 584 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: message here. My baby was this is a safe I 585 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: know I got nothing battleman Ron as a person, but 586 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: I think that's an oversight and if I'm making a team, 587 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: I got to keep that in mind. Like it's not 588 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: me setting the culture. I need people in the room 589 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: to get it. 590 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: The building itself is a culture. 591 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: Do we predicate culture on the winds. No, That's what 592 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm saying, because you can have a culture not being coach. 593 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: We just brother coach. 594 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 4: Two years ago felt different and I'm just a worker. 595 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 4: Here felt different than me walking through those doors this 596 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: year and I just work in media. It felt like 597 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 4: a home when I walked in here, since dan Quinn 598 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 4: has been here. 599 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: It felt like a family. Since it's been in here. 600 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: It felt like a place that we coming to get 601 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: the peak work out of everybody, no matter what you're 602 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: doing in this building, and we're gonna do it as 603 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 4: a family. 604 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: That's how it felt. It did not feel like that 605 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: two years I would. 606 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: Also ask this question, and this is not to you know, 607 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: this is this. This is me because I want to 608 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: you know, feel what you guys believe or understand and 609 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: how you see it. Do it start from the top up? 610 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: Do it start from from from owing shop? 611 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: It does? It does? 612 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Shoot, I mean it does. If you would have asked 613 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: me when I was playing outd have said, no. 614 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 3: That's the coach, it doesn't matter. 615 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, after seeing it, yeah, yeah it does. Because 616 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean I think about like because it's like he 617 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: he made a good hire. He hired Josh Harris, hired 618 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: Adam Peters, and then he supported Adam Peters and his 619 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: decision making. That's leadership. That's culture saying hey man, we 620 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: want to be a first class organization. And like, think 621 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: about you. Like when Trust signed his contract here the 622 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: other day, had his family here. There's people clapping, they're 623 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: bringing them in, Like think that that never happened. 624 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: No, no, before because it wasn't about the people. It 625 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 4: was about the brand and this how it was about. 626 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: And now they have swisched it and said it's about 627 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 4: the people and the brand a shine because guess what 628 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 4: the people gonna sell the brand. 629 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 3: And that's what it's about. 630 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: And now since it's about people and the stars with ownership. 631 00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 3: The Hairs group. 632 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 4: These guys, they said, you go handle the football, We're 633 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: gonna go handle the business board because we need to 634 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: all meet in the middle here and we're going to 635 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 4: go handle. You say the vicinities ain't good enough, We're 636 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 4: gonna work on it. You say the stadium ain't good enough, 637 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 4: We're gonna work on it. You say this need help, 638 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 4: this needs to be renewed. We are going to do 639 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 4: our part simply saying, guys, ain't no use to coming 640 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 4: back here against Cincinnati, go on to Arizona, but we 641 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: will take care of a week of financial I mean, 642 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: find that. Don't you worry about that. We want to 643 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: set y'all up to win. That's how we want to do. 644 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's true, man, It's a great point. 645 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 1: Like it's like when you get that support, it happens. 646 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: And I think, so I think what we've like culture 647 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: is hard, right, but I do think the environment was 648 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: was set up so that it would work, and you 649 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: made good decisions. And I think, and I go back 650 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: to this too, it's not you don't if you have 651 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: a good culture, you're not winning games necessarily. But I 652 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: will say it helps you buy in. 653 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: And adviuys you time to get to win. 654 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 4: Let's look at it, Nacha Padres in the NFC, the 655 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 4: Dallas Capboys. 656 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: Do you think that I don't care what coach goes 657 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: in there. 658 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 4: The culture can't change because the coacher starts with Jerry Jones, 659 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: Like Jerry is the culture right over there. So we're 660 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 4: seeing what goes on when your culture is set. Who 661 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 4: sets the culture? And we have seen Bill Parcells Hall 662 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 4: of Fame coach. 663 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: We've just seen a Super Bowl winning coach get. 664 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: Kicked out of there because they can't change the coature 665 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 4: because the culture is the brand is bigger than the 666 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 4: players and depth fo you got people walking through while 667 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: they lifting weights looking at them like a peting zoom. 668 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 4: That's the culture of the biggest brand in sports. Is 669 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 4: the brand matters, not the players? 670 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you know, look at I mean 671 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: just staying in the division. Look at Philly, right, they 672 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: do a lot of old guys around. 673 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: Griham Let's played there for two decades. 674 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: Like there's a cultural element to that because it's like 675 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: you want guys, you want some continuity from the players, right, 676 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: and the coaching staff so that they can establish what 677 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: you're talk about. So I do think the winning helps 678 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: people buy in. It helps you buy longevity, and it says, hey, 679 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: like this is working for us, Let's make. 680 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: A longevity lance that the tackle. 681 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Lane, Lane Langer, He's been there decade plus, 682 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 4: Fletcher Cox plate there decade plus, Brandon Great played the 683 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 4: decade plus. 684 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: These guys didn't switch jerseys. And then you actually went 685 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, lost it. Lost. 686 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: A lot of those players took a year off and 687 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: actually started that next year off on fire. Yes, found yourself, 688 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: you know, and they brought it back the year later 689 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: and win it. 690 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: SAA. So the culture was in place. It's just shift. 691 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: That's a really good example of what I'm talking about, Tanna, 692 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: Like it's so for example, like you know, Herts and A. J. 693 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: Brown apparently don't get along when you're winning games. Everyone 694 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: gets along. 695 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 4: But it's so funny how they used to be best 696 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 4: friends growing up in highscho I mean, well they didn't 697 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 4: go to the same high school, but they they both 698 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 4: got drafted in baseball out of high school. Like they 699 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 4: was always close. I don't know what has caused this. 700 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: Maybe it's the booking class he himself. 701 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: I don't know now, you know what's called if you 702 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 2: ain't throwing a DV with the ball, he got a problem. 703 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 4: And one thing we know about jam hurts. He will 704 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: hold the ball and miss some throws. 705 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but so I think, like like long story short, right, 706 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: it's multi factorial. There's lots of things that go into it. 707 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: I do think winning helps. It's not the only thing, 708 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: like Tann to point out with his example, but I 709 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: think it's been for me just a ton of fun 710 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: to watch it all come together. So last question then 711 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: before Dan gets here, but based on the recent free 712 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: agent signings, re signings and trades, how do you feel 713 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: about the culture going into twenty twenty five? You know, 714 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: and does it feel like it's taking us the next 715 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: step is growing? 716 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I'm a part of it, growing 717 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 4: living organism. And we was in phase one of the 718 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 4: organism and we just didn't know that the organism was 719 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 4: gonna be that big. So the only way to even 720 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: get on on that level again is to go retool. 721 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: And what he's I think what he did a great 722 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 4: job of is saying who sets the bar, and it's 723 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 4: the Philadelphia the Super Bowl winners sets the bar. Where 724 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 4: are we lagging? Behind trench warfare with them. We got 725 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 4: the heart we needed, we got the quarterback we need, 726 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 4: we got the guys we need. But that's one place 727 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: where they were clearly a step bigger and a step better. 728 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 4: And I think he didn't go out there and get 729 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 4: the best athletes. 730 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: He went out there and got that at least that 731 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: fit what he's trying to do. 732 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: And I admire a coach and a GM when they 733 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 4: do stuff like that, because then you're not letting the 734 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: market dictate you, you are dictating the market. 735 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one of the things that stands out 736 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: is when you see a team have so much success, 737 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: you know, out the gate, like we did. You know, 738 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: the first thing you hear from the then they say, 739 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: because you know, we're the only ones gonna believe, Oh well, 740 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: they ain't gonna be able top that next year, or 741 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: they ain't gonna be able to you know, duplicate that, 742 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: you know, And it's not about doing that, It's about 743 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: having consistency. And the consistency part about this league is 744 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: do I give my franchise a chance to compete every year? 745 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: You understand, And so when you see us you're gonna 746 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: lose players. It's gonna be a revolving dough here. You know, 747 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: when it comes to players, now you go out there 748 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: and say, what do they do this offseason? They want 749 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: the got better and they didn't just get better by saying, Okay, 750 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: we picked a whole bunch of guys where we missed 751 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: out and lost a player to it, and he brought 752 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: in a guy that either equal or better. 753 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: And but now you have. 754 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: To go out there and get those guys caught with 755 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: speed to what you do. That's not gonna be hard 756 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: when you got good talent. It's not gonna be hard 757 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: when you got good people. It's not gonna be hard 758 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: when you got good ball players. So I think just 759 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: when it comes to prematurely, yes, I can honestly say 760 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: that we've gotten better with just going out there and 761 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: getting the guys that's needed. 762 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: But now they got to get coach, Can y'all do 763 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: it again next year? 764 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 4: First of all, they were like, oh, the league gonna 765 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: catch up to them. They ain't caught up with Lamar 766 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: Jackson yet. 767 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: Getting better. And I think that's one of the reasons 768 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: about you know, Jayden that I get so excited is 769 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: because he's a guy that seems like he's motivated to 770 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: get better. 771 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 3: Just scratching the start day and catch up with tempo. 772 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, and I think to Tannis point, like 773 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: I look at the guys they brought in, like Dietrich Wise, 774 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: Eddie Goldman, Jacob Martin, Jonathan Jones, right, Will Harris, and 775 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: Javon Kinlaw, and like they are because we go back 776 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: to the culture conversation, Yeah, like the two of those 777 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: guys come from Super Bowl winning teams. Three of those 778 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: guys like they like they're getting after right, and when 779 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: you watch them play, like specifically those defensive linemen and 780 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones, you're like, these are pros. 781 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: Pros. 782 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: Yes, And I know I say I say that a 783 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: lot on shows that I do. And one of the 784 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: things fans like, what does that mean? It's just like 785 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: a guy you can set your watch by that is 786 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: the standard. 787 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: I can say a standard seat. Yes, a standard setter. 788 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: And so you can trust that guy to come in 789 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: and adopt the culture, study the book, not go out 790 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: all crazy, understand the ebbs and flows. I can go 791 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: out and have a good time, but when can I 792 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: do that? Right? Like that's what the guy. 793 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 4: Is James, Yes, pitty me of a pros pro. Dale 794 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 4: Green the pitome of a pros bro. Now, now these 795 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 4: scopes of talent, they got different, different what's the names 796 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 4: in it? 797 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: But pro Chris Samuels. 798 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: Chris don't get enough love from We named him big 799 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 4: Pro because he's a pros pro. 800 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 3: Somebody just says the standard. 801 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. So obviously, like we talked about culture quite a bit, 802 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: and we can talk about culture all day based on 803 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: our experience. But man, we are excited to have dan 804 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: Quinn pop in here and tell us how it really works. 805 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: That's coming up next. All right, the more we've all 806 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: been waiting for dan Quinn in the building, coach as 807 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: always appreciate you joining us. How's the off season mental, Farth. 808 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 3: It's been good, man. 809 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 6: It's kind of going through the whole process of it, 810 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 6: you know, from it starts with the free agency piece 811 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 6: to it, take. 812 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: A little break through, you know, the. 813 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 6: Combined portion of things, and then you know, as the 814 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 6: guys come in some new players we've added, signing some 815 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 6: guys back, and then from the coaching standpoint, getting ready 816 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 6: for the draft, but also like putting the touches on 817 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 6: the new thing, you know that we want to emphasize 818 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 6: for the spring coach. 819 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: You've been a coach for a while, does it ever 820 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: change that preparation part? Like when the season over it 821 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: rather you had a long season or a short season. 822 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 2: Do anything ever change for you in the process of saying, Okay, 823 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: we got to get back on the board to what 824 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: we need to do to be better going into this 825 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: offseason or vice versa. 826 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 6: I think you learn right as you go, and you 827 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 6: want to make sure the players here have created an 828 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 6: environment they want to play football together man, And so 829 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 6: I think what's important is making sure the new players 830 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 6: that get onboarded here like they understand the standards. 831 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: And things we want. 832 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 6: It's not easy to go from one club to another 833 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 6: club and find that batter rhythm quickly. So I think 834 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 6: it's important for the coaches to make sure we're getting 835 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 6: these new teammates up to speed quickly and so they 836 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 6: can you know, enter into the off season with the 837 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 6: same knowledge and the scheme where they're not trying to 838 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 6: think and play slowly. So that's an important one. And 839 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 6: then always like what's changing in the game. 840 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 3: What rules change? Like, you know, what things do we 841 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 3: have to adjust? 842 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,720 Speaker 6: You know going into things? So I like, as opposed 843 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 6: to me being the only one we all think about that, 844 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 6: you know, the whole staff, and so what do we 845 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 6: need to change, What do we need to do different? 846 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 6: What do we need to do the same? And if 847 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 6: we apply that then there will be some things that change. 848 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 4: How do you how do you marry every section of 849 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 4: coaching because everybody like to talk about the sideline, the 850 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 4: game time stuff. To me, this is administration time because 851 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 4: it goes from free agency, it goes to the draft, 852 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 4: it goes to almost a paper pushing part of it. 853 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 4: How do you as a coach kind of flipwitch right? 854 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 6: We missed the players not being here all the time. 855 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 6: That's why I coach, you know, so like the part 856 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 6: that when they're not here isn't as fun, but it 857 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 6: is the time that you have to use to feature 858 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 6: the guys in unique ways. You know, what do we 859 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,479 Speaker 6: know now about somebody we didn't know a year ago? 860 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 6: How do we add a new player, you know into 861 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 6: the system? What does Debo look like into it? You know, 862 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 6: what about Laramie and how does he fit in and 863 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 6: the things that we would do differently with them into it. 864 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 6: So it's not that there is an administrative part. There's 865 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 6: a lot of planning, and I think what you also 866 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 6: want to make sure that you do is really dig 867 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 6: in on the draft part of things. Once somebody's in 868 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 6: your bloodstream, like they're with you, and so you want 869 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 6: to make sure you like you add in the right 870 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 6: you know, crew, yes, because if it's not, then you 871 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 6: can make some mistakes to say, man, this is a 872 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 6: good player, but it might might not be the right 873 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 6: fit for how we get down. 874 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's something in true because you're talking 875 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: a lot about the guys and like how they fit 876 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: and into something that you've already built, Like you and 877 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: Adam Peters have built this great culture here and like 878 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: we were talking about before you came in, like you 879 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: need to get the right kind of people in. You 880 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: need to set the culture. You talk about that problem 881 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: process and how you kind of make those decisions to 882 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: define something as nebulous as like culture for example. 883 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's good, and like even the types of players 884 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 6: that you're looking for. I think a year ago these 885 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 6: were the players we hoped we would add, But now 886 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 6: I think people have seen this. This is the this 887 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 6: is the way we want to play. So you've actually 888 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 6: seen those people coming and how we want to feature 889 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 6: them and how we want to play them. From a 890 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 6: culture standpoint, we want to make sure man, like really 891 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 6: high standards of people, like we want to push them 892 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 6: high and see, yeah, we have these really high standards 893 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 6: for you, and we expect you to meet them. Yeah, 894 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 6: and so like for the person that's down for that, 895 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 6: that's down to put the work in to find their 896 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 6: way to go do that. And if they are and 897 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 6: they've shown that and they've got that kind of toughness 898 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 6: and like, hey man, there's a spot for you here. 899 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 6: We'll find what your football superpower is and then try 900 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 6: to throw you into that environment as much as we can. 901 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 4: We were going back and forth kind of bickering like 902 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 4: old ladies before you came in on what what is culture? 903 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 4: Like we were saying we had some words to define 904 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 4: coaches because we were like, you know what we have 905 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 4: sold different coaches. I've played for coach Gil, which is 906 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 4: a coach a different culture than Marty Scheinen who I played. 907 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 4: And we talked about Miami Heat culture like if you 908 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 4: had to define it, because I think I. 909 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 3: Said, what connectivity of words standard. 910 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 4: It's it's because it's so it's different, like what's for 911 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 4: my marriage might not work for your mass. 912 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 3: Correct. So if you had to put it into words, coach, 913 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 3: what would that be? 914 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's the standards of how you 915 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 6: get down every day, because people ask me that question 916 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 6: a lot, and sometimes people can confuse environment and culture 917 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 6: and environment. You can be positive and have good juice 918 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 6: and good energy, but that doesn't mean that you're gonna 919 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 6: play tough and play it right. 920 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: Like. 921 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,959 Speaker 6: The culture is man like, how you do things all 922 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 6: the time, over and over. Yeah, how you do your meetings, 923 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 6: how you do like just like you were saying, like 924 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 6: Marty and coach Gibbs had it differently, how they structured practice, 925 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 6: what was important to them. 926 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 3: So as long as it's the same all the time. 927 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 6: And and a ball player doesn't have to come in 928 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 6: and one day it's this way and one day it's 929 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 6: that way, man like. If it's going to be one way, 930 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 6: let's make it that way all the time. And if 931 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 6: you can do that over and over, the best team 932 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 6: cultures I've been in is like the players recognize that, 933 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 6: and the locker room recognize. 934 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 3: It, and they organically spread it for you. 935 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 6: Yes, and if they know this is, hey, man, our 936 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 6: way to play football, and we love doing that. Then 937 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 6: it becomes their culture and that's way more powerful than 938 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 6: somebody else saying this is this is what you should do. No, 939 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 6: when you hear players say this is how we play, 940 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 6: like this is what Commander football looks like, smells like, 941 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 6: feels like, then I can encourage that culture and you know, 942 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 6: throw some gas on it. 943 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 3: But it's like raising your first child. 944 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 4: You raise him, right, that's right. 945 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 6: Yes, it don't always work that way, don't, but it is. 946 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 3: It is. 947 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 6: I think the standard of how you do things all 948 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 6: the time. You know, like, hey man, this is that 949 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 6: we do on Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, is that we travel, 950 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 6: is that we play, and so there becomes a consistency 951 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 6: in that. 952 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 3: And if you have a culture that stands. 953 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 6: For things like hard working or you know, playing really 954 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 6: whatever that looks like, you have to emphasize it. It's 955 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 6: got to show up on a regular basis, man, Like, 956 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 6: you can't just be like something that you throw on 957 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 6: the wall, like that ain't how you get down. This 958 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 6: is idea bullshit, Like that's just what you're saying you 959 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 6: want to be, but you ain't. Yeah, I think you 960 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 6: have to do that, and I kind of want alle 961 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 6: of you guys have had it once, you've been part 962 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 6: of it, and so it's cool, you know, like when 963 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 6: you're in it, you know it. 964 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 965 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard though. It's hard to know it, you know, 966 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: but like you can feel it. 967 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 3: You can't touch and see it, but you could feel it. 968 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 2: Yes, we was all talking about different culture we've been 969 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 2: a part of. And I remember playing in New York 970 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 2: having you know, mo Lewis, Marvin Jones and those guys 971 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 2: on my team. Is it important to have that kind 972 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 2: of leadership in your locker room? So when you bring 973 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 2: in these young guys you have that you have the 974 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 2: kind of I guess you can say the key factors there, 975 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 2: like the Bobby Wag nurse. 976 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, it is important and uh if you what would 977 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 6: you guys have all paid as a young cat to say, 978 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 6: man like, if I'd give anything to have some help 979 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 6: take me to that next spot. So I think it's 980 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 6: who those people are. They don't have to be leaders 981 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 6: in terms of loud, but they have to have a 982 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 6: really high standard and professional football could look like. And 983 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 6: I think that's important. Sometimes coming out of college, you're 984 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 6: not even sure what it's supposed to you just playing football. Yeah, 985 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 6: Like this is how we do it. So having somebody 986 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 6: show you that, give you that example, that's important. And 987 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 6: if people like Wagner can be that standard for others, 988 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 6: I might not be there yet. And when you come 989 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 6: in as a rookie year, hell, you ain't going to be. 990 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 6: But now gives me something to say, Okay, look to 991 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 6: shoot for something. And maybe some people can hang with Wagner. 992 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 6: There's a lot that can't. Just because it's December at 993 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 6: you know, six. 994 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 3: Am, not back in May. You know, like anybody can 995 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 3: do It's like the iceberg. See the top, you see 996 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 3: the work at the bottom. 997 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, are you're down for doing this in January? 998 00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 999 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 6: And so those are the types of people that if 1000 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 6: you see those kind of standards, like they leave an impression. 1001 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So you said something that we didn't talk about, 1002 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: and like we talked about a lot of different stuff 1003 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: before you got on. Here is expectation. I don't even 1004 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: really think about that. Like you, as a coach having 1005 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: expectation for the player, and then the players having expectation 1006 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: for that player is a critical part of their culture. 1007 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: And so like I guess, what are the expectations for 1008 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 1: Commanders football player? Heading into twenty twenty five. 1009 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 6: I think number one, we expect them all to get better, 1010 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 6: and those gaps can be different. Logan, the gaps for 1011 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 6: the three of you guys to improve towards the end 1012 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 6: of your career were much different than they were at 1013 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 6: the start, and so just because the gaps are different 1014 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 6: doesn't mean like we're all not getting. 1015 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: Better, myself included. 1016 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 6: And so that's what I would say, we would relentlessly 1017 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 6: chase is like improvement to get there. And that goes 1018 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 6: for Tressway and Bobby Wagner as it does for Dom 1019 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 6: Hampton and Jayden and Luke McCaffrey and Brandon Coleman. That 1020 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 6: there is a bigger jump that goes from year one 1021 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 6: to year two, but that doesn't mean the guy going 1022 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 6: from year eight to y or nine can also get 1023 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 6: better too. 1024 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 3: And so that's what I would expect us to do. 1025 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 6: As far as like external expectations, I don't really get 1026 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 6: into that better. 1027 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: Man, but but it was just interesting to hear you 1028 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: talk about it, because, like I know, I never never 1029 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: even crossed my mind. It's like there is something that 1030 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: you can do just by saying I like with your kids, 1031 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: I expect you to be better in school, and just 1032 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: that standard makes you better. 1033 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 6: I think you have to point out a vision of 1034 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 6: what they can be sure, you know, like why does 1035 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 6: the player that you know comes in he's undrafted, why 1036 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 6: does he end up making a long career? 1037 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 3: Like this is what. 1038 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 6: We think you can do, man, and do these things 1039 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 6: really really well. And if you do that over and 1040 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,240 Speaker 6: over again, like we're going to feature you into those things. 1041 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 6: So like I've learned a lot, you know, through the 1042 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 6: NBA or other pro sports say like, hey man, this 1043 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 6: is a catch and run player like like or catch 1044 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 6: and shoot player like basketball, and so like you can 1045 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 6: do that exceptionally, well, like they gonna find a spot 1046 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 6: for you. A guy can steal bases, Like what's the 1047 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 6: one thing that you can do as good or better 1048 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 6: than anybody? And if you can find that thing, and 1049 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 6: you'll find a way to feature you, you know, and 1050 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 6: so like thing by receivers, man, like some guys can 1051 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 6: you know, catch screens and some guys got deep ball stuff. 1052 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 6: Great whist can do both. But like not everybody has 1053 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 6: every single trait. 1054 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 3: Down at that position. 1055 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 6: But if you can get really good at some things, 1056 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 6: like look and you're a great example that you know, 1057 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 6: like in terms of like inline blocking, Like like. 1058 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 3: I told the best tight end blog. 1059 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 4: Jump should write him because he is distate a block 1060 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 4: and like he added value to. 1061 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 6: This and had a standard and other people look to 1062 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 6: that standard. And what you know, what could I find 1063 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 6: the margin to get better? Whether it was lower in 1064 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 6: my stance and my pad level, my take off be 1065 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 6: more explosive out of your stance, Like those are real things, 1066 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 6: and uh, everybody has those margins. And if you can 1067 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 6: find the thing that you're exceptional at, then like, man, 1068 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 6: you got a real shot to make your mark. 1069 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 4: I was born twenty five years too early. 1070 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 3: Didn't get the play, just twenty five years too early. 1071 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 6: Man, instincts, ball skills and anaching right there, Man, you 1072 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 6: can always do that early late, That's. 1073 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 3: What I said. Can tell you about his back was 1074 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 3: back out and at the vacum. That's what I do. 1075 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 3: I'm getting. Oh, it's fine, you're gonna get. 1076 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: The traders of the coach. Thanks so much for talking 1077 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: about man, friend. It's always your read education. 1078 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 3: All right. Thanks guys,