1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're searching 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,159 Speaker 1: Pride parade, but we aren't getting any of the NWSL 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: title celebration photos we're looking for. It's Wednesday, November twenty seventh, 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: and on today's show, we'll be talking with US Women's 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: national team legend and Angel City FC co owner Lauren 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Holiday about being a change maker in the sports ownership space, 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: her meet cute with MMBA player husband Drew Holiday, and 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: how a brain tumor helped her learn how to choose joy. 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Plus the PWHL season starts this weekend, and a millennial 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: man in his spoons. Y'all tell us what you collect 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: on vacation. It's all coming up right after this welcome 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: back slices. Here's what you need to know today in 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: NWSL news. The Orlando Pride held their championship parade in 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: downtown Orlando on Monday, and the city showed up and 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: showed out. Commissioner Jessica Berman was in attendance, as was 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: co owner and former MNBA great Grant Hill. The drinks 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: kept flowing throughout the day and Marta head coach Seb 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: Hines and members of the team's executive leadership address the 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: crowd in front of City Hall. Later on Monday evening. 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: We'll link to the full City Hall ceremony and some 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: sights and sounds from the championship celebration in our show notes. 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: More soccer news. 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: The US women's national team heads across the Pond to 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: play a friendly this weekend. The retooled Olympic gold medal 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: winning side will face England at Wembley Stadium Saturday, November 26 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: thirtieth at twelve twenty pm Eastern. You can watch on TNT, 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Telemundo and NBC Universo, or stream on Max and Peacock. Then, 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: on December third, the team heads to the Hague, Netherlands, 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: to face the Dutch national team at two forty five 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: pm Eastern. That'll be available on broadcast and streaming in 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: the same places. They'll be without their triple Espresso frontline 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: of Trinity Rodman, Sophia Smith and Mallory Swanson for. 33 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: Both of those games. 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: All three are resting nagging injuries. And don't forget these 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: two matches will be the last for a legendary keeper, 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: Alyssa Naire, who announced her retirement from international play after 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: all eleven years with the national team. In college soccer, 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: only eight teams are left in the twenty twenty four 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: NCUBLEA College Cup. There will be no repeat winner this year. 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: Vanderbilt upset twenty twenty three champion Florida State in the 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: second round. In the quarterfinals, it'll be Southern cal versus 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: Wake Forest, North Carolina versus Penn State, and Stanford versus 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Notre Dame on Friday the twenty ninth. Then on Saturday, 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: the thirtieth, Duke plays Virginia Tech. We'll link to the 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: full weekend schedule in our show notes in college Vibes. 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: The twenty twenty four nc DOUBLEA Tournament is on the horizon. 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: The bracket selection show goes down on Sunday, December first, 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: at six pm Eastern on ESPN. Sixty four teams make 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: the tournament, thirty two get automatic bids, and the other 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: half are selected by the D one Women's Volleyball Committee. 51 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Last season, Texas beat Nebraska three nothing in the championship 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: to win the school's second consecutive title and fourth overall. 53 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: The first and second rounds the tournament take place December 54 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: fifth through seventh, and you can get even more pumped 55 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: for the volleyball tourney by watching number one ranked pitt 56 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: play number three Louisville tonight at seven pm Eastern hell 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: of a matchup. Panthers won the first meeting between these 58 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: teams three to two on their home court back in October, 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: but the Cardinals have been on a nine game win 60 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: streak ever since. The winner of the rematchable claim at 61 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: least a share of the twenty twenty four ACC Volleyball Championship. 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: Catch the action on. 63 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: ACC Network or streaming on ACC Network X via ESPN. Finally, 64 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: Track and Field News Grand Slam Track, a pro track 65 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: competition launched earlier this year by four time Olympic champ 66 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: Michael Johnson, has officially announced the signing of three time 67 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: gold medalist Gabby Thomas. Thomas's scheduled to compete at all 68 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: four Slams in twenty twenty five in Kingston, Miami, Philadelphia, 69 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: and Los Angeles. All Right, Selicis, we wanted to give 70 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: you an update today and a college volleyball story we've 71 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: touched on a few times over the last few months 72 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: concerning the San Jose State Spartans volleyball team. ESPN's Katie 73 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: Barnes has done excellent reporting on this and they were 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: on Tuesday's episode of the ESPN Daily Podcast if you 75 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: want to listen to them discuss their reporting in full, 76 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: but here's the gist of it from Katie's story. 77 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: Now you remember the number. 78 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: Of teams were forfeiting matches with San Jose State after 79 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: an online outlet reported that a member of the team 80 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: was transgender. Now earlier the season, San Jose State co 81 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: captain Brooks Slusser joined a federal lawsuit challenging NCAA policy 82 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: allowing transgender athletes to participate in women's sports. 83 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: The latest is this. 84 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: On Monday, US District Judge s Cato Cruz denied a 85 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: motion filed by twelve plaintiffs, including Slusser and a spartan's 86 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: assistant coach, against the Mountain West Conference. It would have 87 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: rendered the San Jose State player in question ineligible and 88 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: removed Wins from the team. The plaintiffs argued that they 89 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: had their Title nine rights violated due to the participation 90 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: of a transgender athlete on the San Jose State volleyball team. 91 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: The motion also alleged that the plaintiff's free speech rights 92 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: were infringed upon because they were discouraged from speaking about 93 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: their opposition to her participation. Now, the player in question 94 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: has played for San Jose State for the past three 95 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: seasons without incident. We'll link to Katie's story about the 96 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: whole situation in our show notes. 97 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: Take a read. 98 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: The Mountain West Tournament is scheduled to start today in 99 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. The Spartans, who received six four FOOIT victories 100 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: because of boycotts from Mountain West opponents, are seeded second 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: and they'll get a first round by The team is 102 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: scheduled to play in the semi finals Friday against the 103 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: winner of today's quarterfinal match between number three seed Utah 104 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: State and number six Boise State, both schools forfeited to 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: the Spartans during the regular season. All Right, Slices, this 106 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: is going to be our last show before Thanksgiving. 107 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: We're taking a. 108 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: Couple of days off to eat all the food and 109 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: watch all the shows you recommended. Just a quick reminder 110 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: that the professional Women's hockey season starts this Saturday, so 111 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: mark your calendars for the three games this opening PWHL weekend. Also, 112 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Minnesota Frost captain and US 113 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: legend Kendall Coin Scofield on Monday show. That'll help you 114 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: get even more fired up for Season two of the PWHL. 115 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: But before we hit the ice, we're not quite ready 116 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: to say goodbye to the field. We've got a little 117 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: more soccer talk from our incredible weekend at the NWSL Championship, 118 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: and coming up we're going to hear from ACFC co 119 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: owner and former US women's national team at NWSL player 120 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: Lauren Holiday, who I got to sit down with in 121 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Part of the weekend's festivities was the presentation 122 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty four Lauren Holiday Impact Award, presented 123 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: by Nationwide, which celebrates the community involvement of fourteen different 124 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: players nominated by their teams. At the media day, an 125 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: award ceremony, and WSL Commissioner Jessica Berman said this about 126 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: the no brainer of naming the award after Lauren Holiday. 127 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: When we made the decision with Nationwide to attempt to 128 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: name the award after a human who had outside contribution 129 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: to women's soccer, to the league, and to the community, 130 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: it was a very daunting task. It's hard to imagine 131 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: that we'd be able to get consensus and have complete 132 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: agreement across our ecosystem, that everyone would universally feel represents 133 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: what this award means to all of us, and the 134 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: process was actually quite surprising, without even prompting anyone with 135 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: potential names or ideas, when we presented this idea said 136 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: we'd like to think of someone who could embody the 137 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: essence of what this award means to the league and 138 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: to nationwide and to have it live the test of time. 139 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: Every single person, without prompting, said Lauren Holiday. And when 140 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: we call Lauren, of course she said yes, as she 141 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: always does, and not only is she lending her name 142 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: to this award, but she's lent her time, her resources, 143 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: for energy, her ideas, and we're so happy to have 144 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: her with us and part of carrying the legacy of 145 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: what this award means to us. 146 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: This year's overall winner and fan vote winner BAFC defender 147 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Jen Beattie, a breast cancer survivor herself, received thirty thousand 148 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: dollars to give to Pink Ribbon Good, which provides support 149 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: for those going through Breston gynecological cancer treatment. And a 150 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: little Birdie told me that each year Lauren matches with 151 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: a gift to that year's winner. Two you'll hear from 152 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: the incredible. Lauren Holliday herself coming up right after this break. 153 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: Joining us here on good Games. 154 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: She's a former midfielder and forward for the US women's 155 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: national soccer team from twenty seven to twenty fifteen. A 156 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: two time Olympic gold medalist and World Cup champ, played 157 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: professionally for the Boston Breakers in the WPS before joining 158 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: Kansas City in the NWSL, where she was the league's 159 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: inaugural MVP in twenty thirteen. When she retired in twenty fifteen, 160 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: she was a two time champ and the league's all 161 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: time leading goal scorer and all time assists leader. A 162 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: UCLA brewin, she met her NBA star husband Drew Holiday there. 163 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, she revealed that she was diagnosed with 164 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: a brain tumor during pregnancy with their first child, and 165 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty they co founded the Drew and Lauren 166 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: Holiday Social Impact Fund, a program supporting nonprofits, businesses, and 167 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: educational institutions in five key cities with the goal of 168 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: combating socioeconomic inequality and fostering community growth. An Angel City 169 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: FC owner, the twenty twenty three Muhammad Ali Sports Umanitarian 170 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Award winner at the SP's and a member of the 171 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: National Soccer Hall of Fame. We have a lot of 172 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: mutual friends, so I have so much good dirt that 173 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: I can't put any of in the interview. It's Lauren 174 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: Cheney Holliday. What's up, Lauren? 175 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: Hi, thank you for having me and I agree. I 176 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: have heard a lot about you also, but we can 177 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: talk offline. 178 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just have. 179 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: We've been circling each other and whenever someone's oh, did 180 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: you see Lauren Mike, Oh, actually I haven't met her again, 181 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: They're like, what, how is that possible? So here we 182 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: are in this lovely Western conference room making the magic happen. 183 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: I want to start. We were just talking before we 184 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: started recording. It's been almost a decade since you retired 185 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: from soccer. Looking around at this Championship weekend, the parties, 186 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: the activations, the enthusiasm, the press, the media. Can you 187 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: put in perspective the growth that you've seen in the 188 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: league since you left. 189 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, first off, almost a decade from retiring makes me 190 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: feel very old, so that's a little uncomfortable, But just 191 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: the growth in general is insane. I mean, I played 192 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: in Kansas City at Shawnee Mission North High School. When 193 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: we first started playing. We ended up playing at UMKC 194 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 4: at the end. Still, I'm pretty sure they would lie 195 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: about our attendance and they would say, oh, fifteen hundred, 196 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: and I'm sure there was only six hundred people in 197 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 4: the stands. So to come here and see like KC 198 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: Current over everything, like the branding. You go on an airport, 199 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: it's like Kansas City Chiefs KSE Current, You see the buses, 200 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: you see everything. Just with the branding alone is incredible. 201 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: I think the Lungs have done a phenomenal job here 202 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: doing that. The stadium is beautiful, and I think what 203 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 4: gets me the most is that we haven't even scratched 204 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 4: the surface of where this is going. Like this is 205 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: the first right, this is like they're pioneering a new 206 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: road and it's just the beginning and it's so cool 207 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: to see and it's full circle for me, But it's 208 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 4: just the beginning, and that's what gets me so excited. 209 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Can you simultaneously hold your enthusiasm for what's happening and 210 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: respect your place in that for having been a part 211 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: of it when you weren't made as much money and 212 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: getting the sponsored deals and playing in the purpose built facilities. 213 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Can you hold that at the same time as a 214 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: little bit of like jealousy of like I really wish 215 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: I was still playing right now. 216 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think that comes to mind. But I 217 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: had so much fun playing, Like I think back even 218 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 4: to the WPS and now the NWSL, and I'm like, 219 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: I met some of my best friends, Like we experienced 220 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: some of the wildest things ever, three flights to a 221 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 4: playoff game and you know, like just wild things that like, 222 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: of course, I'm so grateful to see the growth of 223 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: the sport. And then also like I get to say, like, 224 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 4: I had a really really good time, and I think 225 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: that is so cool. 226 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: That is without knowing you, but of having heard so 227 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: much about you. That gratitude for the tough stuff is 228 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: probably why you're such a happy person and so beloved, 229 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: because instead of lamenting it, you're looking back and being like, hey, 230 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: but I had the best time. I got the best 231 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: out of what I had, which is that's really powerful 232 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: to remember. You've been a part of the USLW League, 233 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: the WPS, the NWSL. We love celebrating positives, we love 234 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: celebrating growth, but we also have to be critical in 235 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: order to keep improving. And I guarantee you have seen 236 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: things that leagues have done wrong and are still doing 237 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: wrong in this current iteration. What do you think stands 238 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: out to you from over the years. 239 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for me is people didn't believe, you know, 240 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 4: they didn't believe that women's sports was capable of this. 241 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: It was like, well, what do you want us to do? 242 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: We're losing money, we're doing this and now like being 243 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 4: involved and understanding the business side of sports. It's like 244 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 4: a lot of teams lose money, but to have the 245 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 4: marketing to have and I think we were still not there, 246 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: Like the marketing isn't there, We're not being we're not 247 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: on the main channels enough. Not everyone is a household name. 248 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 4: Yet I think the marketing piece is what comes up 249 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 4: for me, Like it was absolutely zero when I played, 250 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: and now it's like, oh, we're doing something, you know, 251 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: Like I said, I shout out the lungs for what 252 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: they're doing here in Kansas City. But it's still such 253 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: a long way to go. There are still people in 254 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 4: cities that there are NWSL teams that do not know 255 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 4: that there's a professional women's soccer league in America and 256 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: that's unacceptable in. 257 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: Their cities too. 258 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: I remember when I took over as minority owner of 259 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: the Chicago Red Stars, that was one of the first 260 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: things I said, is people here don't even know that 261 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: Megan Rappino, Alex Morgan, these names that they do know 262 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: are playing here and they could go see them. They 263 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: don't have to wait for the friendlies when the US 264 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: one's national team comes into town. But the marketing is 265 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: so bad, especially in cities that have other professional teams. 266 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: And to say the product is the problem and it 267 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: won't work when you haven't invested enough on the awareness side, 268 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: on getting on the proper networks and channels is so 269 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: short sighted. 270 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: And so we're seeing that change. 271 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: But even in this current NWSL, what do you see 272 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, that's still not We still need to 273 00:13:59,080 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: work on that. 274 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: The purpose built facilities. I think facilities aren't equal across 275 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 4: the league. And obviously in every sports team, one owner 276 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: might spend more whatever, and there will be some disparities, 277 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: but there's a vast difference in some of the locations. 278 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: I think that needs to get better. I think travel 279 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: where how are we traveling throughout the whole season, not 280 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: just the playoffs? Like that is huge, not only for timing, 281 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 4: but for recovery for the athletes, for all of that, 282 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: and I think the investment in women's nutrition, their bodies 283 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: there were vastly different than men, and just understanding like 284 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: how we can continue to grow in that and have 285 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 4: the ability the access to it without it being on 286 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: our own dime. So I think that all of those 287 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 4: things still in the NBSL can improve greatly. 288 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: Ever since you were tired, you've been interested in team 289 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: ownership and you've taken business classes at Harvard. You've become 290 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: an athlete advisor for Avenue Capital Group that's run by 291 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: former Bucks co owner Mark Lasry. Your husband played for 292 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: the Bucks for a while, won a championship there, and 293 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: that Avenue Group was reportedly set to take control of 294 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: the NC Courage. In fact, on our show we reported 295 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: about the majority ownership by and set to go through. 296 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: What's the latest on that? We haven't heard much since 297 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: that original report. 298 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a dream, right. I would love 299 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 4: to be a part of that. It's still in process. 300 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: I don't know how much that I can divulge in 301 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: this setting, but yeah, I think that that would be 302 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: The hope is that I would get to be a 303 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: part of an ownership group where I had real say 304 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: and my voice was heard and I had a real 305 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: role in that. And I hope that it is with 306 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: North Carolina Courage. 307 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: So the dream isn't over yet, even though we haven't 308 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: heard about. 309 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: The dream's not over yet. It's not over yet. 310 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: But it's not a sure thing at this point because 311 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: we haven't heard that it went through all the final 312 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: league approvals. 313 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's a sure thing. That hasn't happened. So, Okay, 314 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: we haven't signed the dotted line yet. 315 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: Got it. 316 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: What's interesting to you about being a controlling owner because 317 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: you are a part owner of Angel City, but you 318 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: want to be in a different role. 319 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 4: How much time do we have? Okay, that is my question, 320 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: and maybe we get to talk longer after this. But 321 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: for me, I have a dream. It is not just 322 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: for the end of CELL. I want to start in 323 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 4: the end ofsl But I believe, truly the athletes need 324 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: to have an ownership stake in their leagues. And I'm 325 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: extremely passionate about it because I think there needs to 326 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: be integrity from the top. And I'm not saying that 327 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: ownership groups don't have integrity, but an integrity of understanding 328 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 4: what an athlete goes through to play the sport, Understanding 329 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: what I have been through in the NWSL, in the WPS, 330 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: and making sure that like our voices are heard. So 331 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: I think in the ENDBSL, my idea of control, to 332 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 4: have a controlling stake in an NWSL team is to 333 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: create an environment that I want to be replicated across 334 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 4: all leagues men's women's internationally in America, but to run 335 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 4: it with integrity. Hey, everyone from the top down, like, 336 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: this is what we believe in, this is what we're 337 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: shooting for, this is our vision. Right, So everyone is 338 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: in alignment, the athlete and the ownership. So sometimes I 339 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: think there's a disconnect, Right, the ownership wants to win 340 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: for a vastly different reason than why the athlete wants 341 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 4: to win, and so it's like, well, how do we 342 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 4: get an alignment. How does the athlete and the ownership 343 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 4: want to win for the same reason. There can be nuances. 344 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: Ownership can care more about one thing and the athlete 345 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 4: can care more about another. But if we have that 346 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: integrity to know that we're both working toward that goal, 347 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: I think it's going to change sports. And I think 348 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: the only way you do that is with an athlete 349 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: that has a voice in a majority position. And so 350 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 4: that's my dream, that's my that's what I want to do. 351 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 4: I like look at ownership groups like Michelle O Kang 352 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 4: and her voice is so powerful and what she's doing 353 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 4: and everything she does, I love it, and I'm like, yes, 354 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 4: and let's get an athlete. Let's get a player that 355 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 4: played with her, because she's going to change the world. 356 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 4: She already is. And so I think that that's where 357 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 4: my passion is. And I'm like, I see that, and 358 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 4: I see that I have an opportunity in Mark and Avenue. 359 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: They've been an incredible partner with me where they say, hey, 360 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: this is yours, this is you're the expert here, and 361 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 4: to give me that taste of like, wow, I am 362 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: the expert has really like opened my mind, So like 363 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 4: what can we do? 364 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 365 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: You know, I know you're friends with Merret Matthias. She 366 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: came on the show and I don't know if it 367 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: made the final cut because she and I were talking 368 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: for a long time, but one thing she mentioned was 369 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: hierarchies in sport, and in men's sport, the athlete is 370 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: at the top of it, the top of the pyramid 371 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: because they're the product, they're the reason it succeeds. They 372 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: people understand that they're the value there. And in women's 373 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: sports there's somewhere in the middle. They're just not valued 374 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: the same way. They're not paid the same, the facilities 375 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: aren't the same, the respect isn't the same, the treatment 376 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: isn't the same. That's how toxic situations also occur so 377 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: often in women's sports, because there isn't enough power in 378 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: the athlete to overcome some of the manipulations or otherwise 379 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: that come from staff, coaches, ownership. Is it possible to 380 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: do that without someone like Mark Lazary or the kind 381 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: of capital behind you to compete, Because what's happened in 382 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: the NWSL. There is a woman I was speaking to 383 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: who is putting in a bid on the Portland Thorns, 384 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: and midway through the process of having this massive group 385 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: of women with a lot of money, they said, well, 386 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: the main owner has to be a billionaire. Wipes out 387 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: their bit. There's who do we call Oprah and Kylie Jenner? 388 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: There's like three, right, So when we make it about 389 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: only money, we end up having mostly majority middle aged 390 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: white dudes owning everything. And if they say you're the 391 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: expert and put you in charge. 392 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: Awesome. If they don't, we end up with the same 393 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: pattern over and over again. How do we stop? 394 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 395 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: At first off, I think it is consistency, right, we 396 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 4: need to have a consistency across the board for the league. 397 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 4: If this is our standard, then that's our standard. But 398 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: then we have to rethink it. How are we getting 399 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: athletes involved? Yes, isn't a former NWSL player, even a 400 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 4: former women's national team player. There's not any of us 401 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: that are billionaires. There's not one of us that could 402 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: come in and do that. But then it's like, oh, 403 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: we're not taking funds or we don't want funds in 404 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 4: the league, or we don't want this, or we don't 405 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 4: want that, and so that makes it really hard. So 406 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 4: I do think it's special. And there's something about partnerships 407 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 4: with a billionaire who says, actually, I'm giving you control 408 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: because you are the expert. And I think that that's 409 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 4: what is so special about Avenue that I've experienced is 410 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 4: Mark and his sister started Avenue Capital. Right, Sonya has 411 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: just as much. Say she is a powerful woman who 412 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 4: believes in women, and they believe in us like they 413 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: would not partner with me if they didn't believe that 414 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 4: I could do it. And even when sometimes I doubt myself, 415 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: I mean, let's be fair. Sometimes I like what am 416 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 4: I doing? Like how do I know? Do I know this? 417 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 4: And I'm like constantly reminded that it is possible. But 418 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: that's how we also rethink sports because I think you 419 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: said it's different, and I agree with mere. It is 420 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 4: different for women versus men. But also our men don't 421 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: control the NBA. They don't they the NBA. Yes, there 422 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 4: might be a single person that has a little more control, 423 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 4: but it's like what if Yes, I know there's been 424 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 4: Michael Jordan and the ownership group, but what if it 425 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 4: was a whole group of NBA players that took back 426 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: and owned a team. What if their voice was on 427 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: the board. What if there was a collective of understanding. 428 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 4: And that's where like my passion is. It's like, we're athletes. 429 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: We need to take back our sport like we live it. 430 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 4: We know what our bodies need, we know how to 431 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: market ourselves, we understand the nuances of that. Teach us 432 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 4: the business side and we could flourish. 433 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: What have you learned from the ACFC ownership side, because 434 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: I feel like I having briefly been in the ownership 435 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: side and having been an athlete only at collegiate level, 436 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: and talking to so many on both sides, there is 437 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: a disconnect sometimes between the athletes saying we want extra. 438 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: Y just sat down with Billy Jean King and she said, 439 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: my issue. 440 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: With the athletes is that they're always saying we deserve, 441 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: we deserve, we deserve, But when I ask them what 442 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: they know about the business side, it is zero. So 443 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: they don't know if the people promoting the events are 444 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: making money. They know they get their check at the 445 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: end and that they want more of that. So how 446 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: do we What have you learned from being on the 447 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: ownership side that has made you maybe a little bit 448 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: more empathetic to that side to say the players, Oh, 449 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: by the way, when they tell you no on this 450 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: or this, it's not to be dicks. 451 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: It's here's how this works. 452 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 4: That's why I think it's so important for athletes to 453 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 4: be involved because I remember, like the first meetings I 454 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 4: had going through financials right, and I'm. 455 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: Like, oh, they lose how much money? 456 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: And then you know, talking to Mark and owning an 457 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 4: NBA team and he's like, yeah, you could lose their 458 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: thirty million dollars a year, or like you, your losses 459 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: could be this and understanding like the P and L 460 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: sheets and the and and all of that. My eyes 461 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: were like, oh, well, when the NWSL started, there is 462 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 4: absolutely zero way that we could have done anything different 463 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 4: than a Southwest flight the night before a game. There 464 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 4: was there was no other way. And so I think 465 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 4: that understanding that side. If there is an athlete that 466 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 4: is involved that's doing it a we can tell it 467 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 4: differently and there's a different level of understanding. But so 468 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: many times as an athlete were dismissed. It's like I 469 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 4: was never told, oh, this is how much money I 470 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: put in and we're actually losing like a million dollars 471 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 4: more than and I have a loss of this amount, 472 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 4: Like no one was ever telling us those things. Would 473 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 4: we have met on more understanding, I think so. But 474 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 4: also then it's like, okay, well what are we putting 475 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: into the marketing? What are we And maybe if you 476 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 4: take on a collaborative approach where the athlete wants to 477 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 4: serve you and wants to do more so that it 478 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 4: can build, then that will help. But right now, like 479 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 4: you said, there is a DISCONNECTE. 480 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been probably interesting for you to be married 481 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: to a male professional athlete. Everything's different, treatment, paychecks, facilities, 482 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: all the stuff. 483 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: But I was told by a little bird that you 484 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: have a good meet cute with your husband, Drew Holiday. 485 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 4: I think I know that little bird. Yeah, Drew and 486 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 4: I met. We met in college and he's younger than me. 487 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: So I was at the women's basketball game, supporting women's sports, 488 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: but I was basketball playing high school. I was friends 489 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: with all the women's basketball players at UCLA. So I 490 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: went after class sitting by myself. Drew walks in with 491 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: one of the other freshman basketball players and someone comes 492 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: up to him. He's like, oh my gosh, Darren Collison, 493 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: can I have your autograph? And I'm like giggling because 494 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 4: I know he's not Darren Collison. I know he's like, 495 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 4: you know, freshman basketball player coming in, And after they leave, 496 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: he was so gracious, and after they leave, he's like 497 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: talking to his friend like, what the heck? I don't 498 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: even look like Darren. And I told him I was like, 499 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 4: don't worry, like you're cuter than Darren. And honestly, there 500 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: was no intention I promise, Sure, but I just thought 501 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: he was more attractive and so just facts. We became 502 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 4: friends after that, and yeah, that's really cute. 503 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: There are cliches about folks who go through tough times 504 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: and what they learned from it, but they are usually 505 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: cliches for a reason. A lot of people come out 506 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: of traumatic events with a different perspective. Do you find 507 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: that after the brain tumor, after the support that he 508 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: gave you, after you had your child in the midst 509 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: of dealing with that, you were pregnant when you when 510 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: you learned that you had that, did it change your 511 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: perspective in all the ways that people say when you 512 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: have those traumatic events. 513 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting. So I think my whole life has 514 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: been slightly traumatic. Like I had open heart surgery when 515 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 4: I was four years old. I like just how I 516 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 4: grew up, everything it was like then soccer. I feel 517 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 4: like it all prepped me for that moment. But there's 518 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: nothing more traumatic than you worrying about your child. And 519 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 4: for me, it was like I needed my daughter to 520 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 4: be okay for me to ever be okay. And I 521 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 4: think after when my daughter is healthy and thriving, it 522 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: is completely changed my perspective on what matters and like 523 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 4: for me, I am super competitive, Like, don't play Uno 524 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 4: with me. I will call you a name and don't know, 525 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: don't like I will call you a cheater if you 526 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: beat me, and I have no qualms about it, like 527 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 4: you probably did cheat, like truly, I mean if. 528 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: You beat me, probably something's up. 529 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I just lose. I don't lose so obviously, right. 530 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 4: I think our Drew and I's biggest fight was over Uno. 531 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: So I think that that is like a real thing 532 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: for me. But I realized, like what do I care 533 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 4: about most is like how do we make life beautiful? 534 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 4: How do we love people? How are you loving on people? 535 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 4: And I think that that is what really like changed 536 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 4: my perspective of like, yeah, I'm competitive, I like to win. 537 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 4: I'm competitive for my husband he's competitive, but I more. 538 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: But it's like, no, what matters is like is community, 539 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 4: is people, family love, And I think that that's helped 540 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 4: me get through a lot. 541 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: You have big mothering energy, not only for your own children. 542 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: You've been coaching your daughter's soccer team, but also I've 543 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: been told you mother Drew's teammates, whether telling guys, hey, 544 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: time to man up and propose to your fiance stop 545 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: messing around? 546 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 2: How about this? 547 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: Can I help you with your housing while you're figuring 548 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: out your move and your divorce? 549 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 2: Like you are now this mother. Did you have that 550 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: before you had kids? 551 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: Or do you think that that comes from having these 552 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: little babies running around? 553 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: I think if my sister was listening to this, she 554 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: would laugh out loud. I am like the epitome of 555 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 4: the youngest child, like forget her school bad, leaves the 556 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: doors open, forgets to lock the front door, like I 557 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 4: am that person locks their key in the car so 558 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 4: to hear like I have mothering energy. She would probably 559 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 4: laugh out loud, like I probably didn't do my own 560 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 4: hair until I got to college, so that is hilarious 561 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 4: to me. But I think it's really just like meeting 562 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 4: people where they are. 563 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: Maybe I should have said big meddling energy. 564 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 4: Oh I like that. 565 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: I like meddling energy. 566 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: Fro. I'm like, let me tell you how to handle 567 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: your relationship and your life and your housing. It feels 568 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: like mothering, but it might just be metal. 569 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 4: It might be meddling. And hey, if you ask, you 570 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: wanted my opinion, right. 571 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm also youngest, not mothering energy. Big meddaling energy. Yeah, yeah, big, 572 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: let me help you out. I know what's best for. 573 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 4: You, absolutely, I think that I do that too. But 574 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 4: you know, if you want to have the conversation, I'm 575 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: open to giving you my opinion. Sometimes you might have 576 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 4: to kick me under the table. 577 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: I heard that. Sometimes he says, Okay, that's good. 578 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll give me big eyes, like, please don't actually 579 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 4: say your opinion, maybe like say half of your today 580 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: and not not the whole thing. 581 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: Oh man, we're gonna get along. 582 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, last question for you, And it might be 583 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: just big picture and you kind of already spoke to 584 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: it about like loving on people and spreading love. But 585 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: is there advice you would give people that never have 586 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: to go through the ordeal that you did about what 587 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: they should know from the other side of it, that like, hey, 588 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: don't wait for this thing to happen to you. Don't 589 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: wait for this moment where you fear for yourself or 590 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: someone else you care about to realize X or to 591 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: start doing X. 592 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 4: I think I would just tell them that it's a choice, 593 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: like you have a choice to choose joy, and I 594 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 4: think it's it's a lot easier than choosing the other like, 595 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 4: sometimes everything feels like it's going wrong. I'm a mom, 596 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 4: Like I can tell my kids to do something, they 597 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 4: don't do it, And it's like I could literally crumble 598 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: for the day, or you can choose joy, and sometimes 599 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 4: I crumble. But it's like I would just tell people, 600 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 4: like it's choice. You have a choice to how you 601 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 4: react to things. You have a choice on how you 602 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: handle a trade. You have a choice on how you 603 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 4: handle disappointment, a medical scare, any of those things. And 604 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 4: I would say, like, in those moments, choose joy. 605 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: You had a choice of how to spend your time today, 606 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: and you came to this conference room to talk to us, 607 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: So thank you, so appreciate it. 608 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, thank you for having me. I feel like 609 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 4: we could talk for an hour. 610 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we probably will later, Okay, we got to take 611 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: another break. 612 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: When we come back, we learn about all the cute 613 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: little things you like to collect from your travels. It's 614 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: coming up next, Welcome Back Slices. As we recover from 615 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: our trips abroad and stateside, we are loving reading about 616 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: all the things that you collect on vacation. The obvious 617 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: from the magnet shot glasses, Christmas ornaments, postcards, globes to 618 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: the less obvious, like coffee, mugs, earrings, and spices. And 619 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: we got some pretty funny responses from y'all on social too. 620 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: At Reviling, Neptune said, spoons because I'm apparently an old 621 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: woman in a millennial man's body. At Count Nivik said, 622 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: I usually come back with an extra pound or two 623 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: from all the food I eat, and it tends to 624 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: stay with me. 625 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: Very relatable. At Funky Old. 626 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: Medina, we usually just collect credit card debt for a 627 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: hot sec. Also relatable at the oh Man Dan, I 628 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: like to pick up a different form of food poisoning. 629 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: Whenever I travel, I could really close my eyes and 630 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: remember each place and the aftermath. And finally, at que Bruby, 631 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: my wife and I collect photos of our kids, holding 632 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: up pictures of all the places we could have traveled 633 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: if we didn't have kids. Well que Bruby, as the 634 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: meme says, I have dogs, not kids. I'd rather ruin 635 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: my carpet than my life. Wink wink. Thanks to your 636 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: great comments and photos everyone, and that Magnet collection photo 637 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: Michelle Wow, and thanks as always forgetting in the game. 638 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: Now here's today's good gameplay of the day. I have 639 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: to assume none of you were planning to do this, 640 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: but just in case, please do not show up to 641 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,239 Speaker 1: your Thanksgiving dinner in an Indian headdress properly known as 642 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: a Native American war bonnet. Instead, look up what native 643 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: land you live on. Learn about the history of your area, 644 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: the good, the bad, and the ugly. 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