WEBVTT - Ep 86: Tame Impala

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<v Speaker 1>It's only Deva compared to me and my Bosey friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to episode eighty six of Midnight Chats with Me

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<v Speaker 2>Stuart Stubbs, and this episode marks the first in series

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<v Speaker 2>nine of the podcast. So we're going to be back

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<v Speaker 2>now for the next ten weeks. We have a new

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<v Speaker 2>episode at midnight every Thursday, and we've got some great

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<v Speaker 2>guests coming up here, either be myself speaking to them

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<v Speaker 2>or Greg cochran speaking to them. And we've organized ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>this time around, and we've got a lot of great

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<v Speaker 2>guests in the bag already. We've already recorded episodes with

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<v Speaker 2>James Acaster, Biffy Clyro, Ed O'Brien from Radiohead, We've got

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<v Speaker 2>Carlie ray Jepson, We've got LaRue, We've got a few others,

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<v Speaker 2>and there will be ten in total. So if you're

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<v Speaker 2>nine episodes. But for now, I presume you're here to

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<v Speaker 2>hear Kevin Parker aka a Tame in Parlor in conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's just do that. This is an episode that

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<v Speaker 2>I recorded at the end of twenty nineteen in November time,

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<v Speaker 2>so quite a while ago. We're now in March twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty and the album that we were speaking about then

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<v Speaker 2>is now out. It's called The Slow Rush. You may

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<v Speaker 2>well have heard it already if you haven't, it is

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<v Speaker 2>on all streaming services, it is in all good record stores,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the main reason that I met up with

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin in an extremely posh hotel here in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>please enjoyed this episode of Midnight Chats number eighty six

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<v Speaker 2>with tame In parlor. So we're sat in a very

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<v Speaker 2>nice hotel in London. But it's currently November and your

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<v Speaker 2>album is out in the middle of feb next year,

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<v Speaker 2>so a little way off yet. What stage will be

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<v Speaker 2>in at the moment in the cycle? What's going on

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<v Speaker 2>right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've finished it and now I'm doing press for it. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>Now I wait anxiously for it to come out. It

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't do the test pressing on vinyl. Okay, Night

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<v Speaker 1>before Last?

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<v Speaker 2>Does it sound Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds fun. Yeah, it was nerve wragging because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't always know how things are going to go getting

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<v Speaker 1>printed to vinyl. Sure, but it actually, I hate to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it sounds better. Well, it might just be

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm hearing it in a more romantic and softened way,

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<v Speaker 1>not just that like the brutally honest digital version that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been working on. Sure, So like going to viol

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<v Speaker 1>it's obviously going to like soft it. Yeah, yeah, any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like hard extremely hard travel edges are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be kind of removed. I guess. Actually, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't I don't know enough about vinyl.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've done that and now you're doing things like

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<v Speaker 2>this and interviews and stuff. Have you done your press

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<v Speaker 2>shots for the campaign?

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<v Speaker 1>Done some of them? Okay? I did some of them.

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<v Speaker 1>That when I went to shoot the album cover and.

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<v Speaker 2>A great album cover p thank you the sand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And that is that shot? That's a that's not I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that. I just presumed that would be just a

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<v Speaker 2>digitally render.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a it's an editor. It's a digitally

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<v Speaker 1>touched up photo, real place. Okay, but in that real

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<v Speaker 1>place that like every like everything that's in the photo

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<v Speaker 1>is real, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It is full of that's real. That that was sad that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an abandoned mining diamond mine town in Namibia.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, whose idea was that image?

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<v Speaker 1>Mine?

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<v Speaker 2>Nice?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And where did that?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>Where did that come from? Because I know it fits,

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<v Speaker 2>it fits in with the themes of the record, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask you about. But where did that

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<v Speaker 2>image come from? Because it's I just presumed it would

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<v Speaker 2>be either completely digitally made like not real, yeah, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe like a model, like a little model that you've

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<v Speaker 2>made to make you're now thinking ship I could have

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<v Speaker 2>done that would have been easier.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that that was actually put to me. It was

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<v Speaker 1>suggested to me not to go to Namibia and to

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of like make one in the Californian desert, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I was I guess I was stubborn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be there in the way I can off be. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, let's just go there. Let's go there.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, as soon as I uttered it to

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<v Speaker 1>Neil Krug, he was like, yeah, that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's do it. Let's go there. Sure you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Yeah, I'll put a link below this podcast to

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<v Speaker 2>the to the artwork itself. People will have seen it

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<v Speaker 2>by the time this comes out, but to anyone listening

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<v Speaker 2>that hasn't, it's it's it's to describe it. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>a room with sand filling filling it up through a doorway,

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<v Speaker 2>right from what I remember window for a window. So

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<v Speaker 2>to to look at that and sit and hear that

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<v Speaker 2>you did it, it is impressed. I'm impressed. So you

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<v Speaker 2>did some folks, So you did some folk You did

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<v Speaker 2>some press shots around that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just there's just beautiful landscape around there. Yeah, otherworldly, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And so we just spent a couple of das in

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<v Speaker 1>press shots as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know how are you generally with that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of with the photo side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting better, Yeah, if for no other reason that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling more okay with being a diva now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just totally at peace with making all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of demands.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of demands do you tend to make on

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<v Speaker 2>a given she I.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to have a full length mirror facing me at

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<v Speaker 1>your times?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you for real that one?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's say, like, what if I was shooting you

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<v Speaker 2>from here, there needs to be a mirror here to

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<v Speaker 2>my side. Uh well, yeah, in your like, but by

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<v Speaker 2>the camera so you can see how it's looking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's basically just like adjust my hair.

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<v Speaker 2>There was an interview on here last night with Elton John,

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of life spanning interview Wow, And I watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>He came across brilliantly. Actually, I've always had a strange

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with Elton John in the sense that I love

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<v Speaker 2>the music, but I've always thought he's just too much

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<v Speaker 2>of a diva, right because he's kind of the king

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<v Speaker 2>of that, you know, the I mean back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>some of his demands were just absolutely wild. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't you know you hear those I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you hear those stories anymore, do you Like? It was

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a do you do of people kind

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<v Speaker 2>of saying, if I'm going to play this show, I

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<v Speaker 2>insist on there being a room painted this certain shade of.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I won't go on. Our funny one was not

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<v Speaker 1>that it was ours, but Australian band demanded a bottle

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<v Speaker 1>of MOEI right, and the quote was no m which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of amazing. Yeah. Well, you know, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing about diva requests, like it's it's always tacked on

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<v Speaker 1>the end of any discussion about diva requests, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like Mara Carey and Green Eminems or whatever, is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about having that actual thing, it's making sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's having that as a as a test to

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<v Speaker 1>see that they're up to the test, up to the

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<v Speaker 1>task of catering for you. You know. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not that Mariah Carey actually wants a bowl

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<v Speaker 1>of Eminem's or the green ones taken out. She's doing

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<v Speaker 1>it so that she knows that's the level they're going

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<v Speaker 1>for going to to take care of her. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And the same thing with guns and roses and their

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<v Speaker 1>red cutlery or whatever, you know, Like that's that's apparently

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<v Speaker 1>what it's all about. I don't know that for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's.

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<v Speaker 2>The show that they care as much as they should care, exactly, right.

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<v Speaker 2>They just want people to show that they care, exactly

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<v Speaker 2>But your diva demands on your shoots. They said that

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<v Speaker 2>the mirror sat That just sounds quite practical.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, it's it's it's only diva compared to

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<v Speaker 1>me and my bose friends. It's only diva compared to them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually it's actually falls way short of like the

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<v Speaker 1>universal definition of diva just for me, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, especially with a you know, chilled out dude reputation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I probably might not be expecting that one shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but do your bozo friends think you're cool? Do

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<v Speaker 2>they wind you off about this kind of stuff? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>they say you're such a deva. Absolutely you've changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And I and I accept that with pride.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I'm like in my group of friends, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the diva. Yeah, pop princess. Good. That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a good place.

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<v Speaker 1>To be within your Yeah group, comfortable, why not.

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<v Speaker 2>So this so yeah, so this, I mean, this period

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<v Speaker 2>leading up to with the album so kind of so

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<v Speaker 2>far in advance. Is this the worst time when putting

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<v Speaker 2>out a record or is this that because the record's done?

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<v Speaker 2>How long? How long ago was it made?

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<v Speaker 1>I finished it. I finished it on November the twenty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so not too long ago. That's not so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even been sitting on it for half a

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<v Speaker 2>year and.

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<v Speaker 1>We're still no. No, I wish it. I wish it

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<v Speaker 1>had been half a year. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it feel it feels like you've kind of just

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<v Speaker 2>hit the ground running and you're straight into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in a way. I mean, it's kind of it's

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<v Speaker 1>always funny that I would start doing press straight after

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<v Speaker 1>I finished the album, which is kind of the worst

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<v Speaker 1>time for me to be speaking positively about this body

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<v Speaker 1>of music that I've just completed. And like I used

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<v Speaker 1>to not hold back, and I think when Lonarism came out,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just a rag. I was saying, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't really fully understand the whole purpose of press, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'll just be like, man, this alm sucks. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just literally the time I'm supposed to be like bicking

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<v Speaker 1>it up to be able to listen to it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going like, it's it's pretty much unlistenable, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember reading a headline of the article that I

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<v Speaker 1>did or whatever, and it was like, Kevin Parker thinks

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<v Speaker 1>his album is unlistenable.

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<v Speaker 2>So so now as you say, now, you know that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's not really the thing to say. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>were that, if you were that old old yeah, not

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<v Speaker 2>non diva Kevin Parker back then, how how would you

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<v Speaker 2>what would you honestly say? How do you feel about

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<v Speaker 2>this record?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? I think it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's good. I think it sounds good. At

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, I think I'm worried I've mixed the vocals

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<v Speaker 1>too loud. But I'm only saying that because I've always

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<v Speaker 1>regretted putting the vocals too quiet. Like I asked myself

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<v Speaker 1>when I was finishing on this album, like what have

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<v Speaker 1>I always regretted? You know, because when I'm finishing it out,

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<v Speaker 1>When you're finishing an album, all sorts of paranoid negative

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts are coming in, fighting them off left, right and center,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so you make and like you're making decisions

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, it's only me making them, you know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's finishing the album. Is the time where I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had a group of people well that I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had people working on the album as well that

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<v Speaker 1>shared the burden. But at the end of the day

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<v Speaker 1>with me, it's like I'm the only one that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got I've got Glenn who's works for the album,

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<v Speaker 1>works for the label, and he's like kind of my

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<v Speaker 1>sounding board. But yeah, so anyway, I like this. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what am I going to regret? What decision

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<v Speaker 1>am I going to a great making? You know? And

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, it's I always bury

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<v Speaker 1>the vocals because I'm self conscious about like what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying or the sound of my voice because I hate

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<v Speaker 1>the sound of my voice. But listening back to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>currents and stuff, I'm like, man, I chickened out right

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, Like I would have been working on

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<v Speaker 1>the the song the year, two years or whatever. The

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<v Speaker 1>vocals like nice and beaming, you know, right at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get self conscious and turn them down and then

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<v Speaker 1>mix it and send it to the master, and then

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<v Speaker 1>years later I'm like, fuck, what did I do that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know I should have just like been proud of

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<v Speaker 1>and so this time, against every inch of my being

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<v Speaker 1>to turn them down. I was like, no, Kevin, turn

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<v Speaker 1>them up, turn them up. Put them where other songs

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<v Speaker 1>you like vocal level is you know? Yeah? And so

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<v Speaker 1>I did that and now I'm listening to it, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just have to endure I have to endure that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just need to get used to it, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess because it feels so alien to you because those

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<v Speaker 2>other records have been mixed. I mean, I've heard the

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<v Speaker 2>I had the record on yesterday and it didn't strike

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<v Speaker 2>me that they were like I wasn't thinking that was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't like whoa. They said they didn't even feel

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<v Speaker 2>that much higher than good old records. So I think,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're fine, you're fine helping me.

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<v Speaker 1>There's flowering my heart right right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Pierce have spiritualized. He when he's finished his record,

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<v Speaker 2>before he signs off on it, I heard this story.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is true, but I heard

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<v Speaker 2>that he takes his he burns it to a CD.

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<v Speaker 2>He rents the shittiest car he can rent, like the

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<v Speaker 2>basic car YEP, and he drives around with it on

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<v Speaker 2>the car stereo, and that's what he judges as his

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<v Speaker 2>Does this sound as it should sound because most people

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<v Speaker 2>will be listening to it in this sort of context.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do anything like you have any any ritual

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<v Speaker 2>like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Or the car stereo trick is a fight? Is a

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<v Speaker 1>well known one, right, one that you've done? Treat with

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<v Speaker 1>equal reverence? Yeah, okay importance? Absolutely have you.

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<v Speaker 2>Done that with this record?

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<v Speaker 1>On the way to the master the way to mastering,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Glenn's car and he was like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to check the mixers on the stereo? I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, yeah, yeah, definitely, let's do that. We

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<v Speaker 1>put it on. I turned it off after abound two seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't let it play for two seconds. I was like,

0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know sounds ship really, which was just a

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<v Speaker 1>sign that I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready, but or

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I haven't been having to Perth in

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<v Speaker 1>a while, so I haven't I I haven't really had

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<v Speaker 1>I've literally just been at my house in La right

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<v Speaker 1>for like a year. Well no since I got off

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<v Speaker 1>to or last but I will do the casttereotrick test

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<v Speaker 1>I go home. Yeah, okay, cool? You don't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have tokay, something I need to do. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but other than that, you know, the laptop speakers check

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<v Speaker 1>to the mobile phone speaker check, do that thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I almost didn't believe it yesterday when I realized

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<v Speaker 2>the current is five years old or will, like like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it will be by the time this record comes.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, yeah it will, or just shy of five years

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<v Speaker 1>just like four and a half. I was very want

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear, it's not five years. It's important that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as many as fine buying something for nine nine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it doesn't feel like that. That's what surprised

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<v Speaker 2>me was I was like, that album didn't come out

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<v Speaker 2>that and go surely. Was it just with this record

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<v Speaker 2>that it just felt like you needed that much time

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<v Speaker 2>to make it? Or was it stubborn in some way?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of stubborn. Okay, it feels like it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I needed that amount of time to want to

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<v Speaker 1>do another one, right, just because of the emotional burden,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, of diving into it and being in it

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<v Speaker 1>for that long. It's just you know, it's a marathon

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<v Speaker 1>of work and commitment and you know, sacrifice. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>because once I minut I don't really have a life

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<v Speaker 1>until it's finished, you know, Like I can't. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be working on a Tament Parlor album and having a life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I got married doing that and stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>that huge for me. But yeah, like I I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>really want to go out and like party or something

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that if I'm working on it just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't feel right, you know. So it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just and also like I just didn't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything that wasn't the best I could do. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like if I'd try to make an album

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago, it just wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't have been the best, Like I know that

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<v Speaker 1>in my heart, yeah, you know, And there's just so

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<v Speaker 1>much other stuff I wanted to do that kind of

0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:37.840
<v Speaker 1>excited me more. That sort of that I felt more

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<v Speaker 1>immediately inspired to do, like even just like DJing, you know,

0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.040
<v Speaker 1>like I wanted to be a DJ more than I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make another table Part that album.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, Well that kind of makes sense listening to

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<v Speaker 2>the record, because there are some proper dance beats on there, right,

0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:57.600
<v Speaker 2>which I love th they sound great and it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like you're most kind of dance orientated thing. Probably, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you would you have any interest in making like a

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<v Speaker 2>just a straight up dance record, because it's not quite

0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.120
<v Speaker 2>it's not like that's not what this is, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>clearly like something that you could. It feels like that's

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<v Speaker 2>a record you could make if you wanted to make that.

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<v Speaker 1>If I could, Yeah, I don't know that I could do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, hey, I think you could.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean i'd like to. I'm terrified of trying and failing, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>as is everyone. Yeah, but I guess that's the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why I should just do it, right. I also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just also because I love the kind of music

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<v Speaker 1>and the kind of sounds that I love, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>psycher Arc we are all that kind of stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I feel like even if I try to make

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<v Speaker 1>it straight up dance record, it would probably come out

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<v Speaker 1>sounding like this album and anyway, like some of the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on this album, just because I like that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of grimy, distorted, crumbly sound, you know, like just feeling

0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:15.360
<v Speaker 1>it with sound and mess anyway. Yeah, but yeah, hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to the olast thing. I want to do everything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The records called The Slow Rush, and the themes on

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of a link to the The artwork makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense with the themes of it, like passing of time

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<v Speaker 2>is a big kind of reference point to it, right, Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>is that what keeps you awake at night? The kind

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<v Speaker 2>of running out of this sense of running out of

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<v Speaker 2>time that is a very human thing. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not the running out of time, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the feeling that time is racing, you know, like there

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<v Speaker 1>are certain points you laugh when you feel like that,

0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:54.679
<v Speaker 1>when you feel like you know, I mean, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of cliches for time is slipping through your

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<v Speaker 1>fingers or you know, it's i mean, something that I've

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<v Speaker 1>always felt deeply about but never really known how to

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<v Speaker 1>put into music. I've probably sung about it in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've never really kind of it's never dominated my

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the artistic output as much as it has

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment on this album. Sure like dominated kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what I feel passionate enough to make music about.

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<v Speaker 2>A friend who works with me on the magazine. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, wished, I asked Kevin, He said, ask him

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<v Speaker 2>if he thinks he could ever make albums at the

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<v Speaker 2>rate that King Gizzard make records? Dum, could you just

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<v Speaker 2>bash them out if you wanted to?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember there are seven people in King Gizzard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they also seven or there's yeah seven. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they might be might be more well either way,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot of them, You're right. And also

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<v Speaker 2>they are working at like they are a complete a

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<v Speaker 2>normally right absolutely like no no one else is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>They are like the only band doing absolutely sing six

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<v Speaker 2>albums a year or something stupid like that. But for

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<v Speaker 2>you just generally, do you feel like you're like the

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<v Speaker 2>way you make a record, is it kind of the

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 2>quality over the quantity film was very much like a

0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Tami in Parlor trait. Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah? But like I I mean I envy those

0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 1>guys so much being able to pump it out the

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<v Speaker 1>way they do, because that's the other thing, like just

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<v Speaker 1>because you spend a lot of time on something doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's better than something that was spent two seconds on. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. My My example of that is like Paranoid

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<v Speaker 1>by Black Sabbath. Yeah, like that was a song they

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<v Speaker 1>just made in like five minutes to fill the extra

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<v Speaker 1>space on that album, like they've finished all the songs.

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<v Speaker 1>The album is going to be called war Pigs, I think,

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:01.959
<v Speaker 1>and they were, Oh, we need to we need to

0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.480
<v Speaker 1>like feel like three minutes, let's just make fucking whatever,

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's make some bullshit, and they did it and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like perfect. Their their biggest song. Yeah, you know,

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>like that's to me, that's profound because it just means

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't it's not about laboring over it and thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it and then overthinking it and then you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Have any of your tracks come together like that like Lightning?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean so many of them. It's just that

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<v Speaker 1>I take so much time after that to decide that

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<v Speaker 1>they're good enough, you know, Like, yeah, sot heaps of

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:42.199
<v Speaker 1>my songs were mostly done in about twenty four hours, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not necessarily all the lyrics, but heaps of songs. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>To answer your question, yes, I do think I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I could, I could pump out an album

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<v Speaker 1>in a month. Yeah. I can't guarantee you to be good,

0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:01.160
<v Speaker 1>but I could do it. But you could do it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The I mean, one of the things that you've been

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:06.920
<v Speaker 2>doing since Currents came out is like working with other

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:10.240
<v Speaker 2>people and writing with other people and collaborating on other

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:13.720
<v Speaker 2>people's projects and stuff. How's that been? Because that's like,

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean some of the people include like Kenye West

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 2>and Rihanna and Lady Gaga, Mark Ronson just some stuff

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 2>on the special records and stuff. Does that like because

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:30.440
<v Speaker 2>it is just you generally, you know, like when Tam

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.120
<v Speaker 2>and Parlor, you know, you're doing as you said, like everything.

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 2>What's that like to suddenly go into rooms with other

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:40.080
<v Speaker 2>people and massive stuff, you know, massive kind of people

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:44.120
<v Speaker 2>and suddenly be working with someone and on on their thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like and.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's obviously like a polar opposite for me in

0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 1>terms of but that's kind of why I'm so intrigued

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 1>by it. So that's why I'm so allured by it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you generally enjoy it?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, I mean, well I always enjoy it because

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:03.919
<v Speaker 1>it's so it's such an alien thing to me. But

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to get good at it, you know. I

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to learn how to be creative

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>in the way that I like to be creative with

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>working with people, you know. But yeah, I mean I've

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 1>learned so much from from doing it, and because everyone

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I've worked with, I've had so much respectful. I have

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 1>so much respectful but yeah, yeah, sometimes I'm kind of like, oh,

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>what am I doing? This is like I usually feel

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:40.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty useless, right, you know. It's funny how like when

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm on my own, this is kind of I guess

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of it says a lot about me. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I'm on my own making music, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel on top of the world. You know, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm making the best shit that's ever been made.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I'm kind of with other people, especially

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<v Speaker 1>people that are people like worship, you know, I'm just oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to do something that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>worthy of contributing to this project. You know, when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with other people and just like what am I doing,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm nothing, you know. So I really hope

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<v Speaker 1>and wish that I can find a way to bridge

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<v Speaker 1>the gap. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Have there been at any moments working on anything where

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<v Speaker 2>you've just felt insanely overwhelmed just by the situation that

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<v Speaker 2>you're in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, totally just where you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Just been like, how's this happened? This is a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Like I think like the first session I

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<v Speaker 1>did with Travis Scott was pretty intense. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was like super chill but really intense at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>just because of I guess the environment he likes to

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the vibe likes to create when making music. You know,

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like deafly loud, right, blunts being smoke constantly. These

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>people in the room, everyone just sort of like vibe

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<v Speaker 1>on the music, getting into it. People are contributing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of just like, wow, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>this is crazy in a good way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mad because every time like an extra person must

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<v Speaker 2>come into the room in that situation, it's like one

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<v Speaker 2>more people then you're used.

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<v Speaker 1>To working with, like it's just you.

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<v Speaker 2>So like as soon as it's a room, as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as there's one other person there, it's like double the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of people and it just escalates and escalates, escalator.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's funny. When I first first it does doing

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<v Speaker 1>like like sessions hip hop sessions. That was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>one of my the first ones I did. Music was

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<v Speaker 1>like insanely loud that they listened back to it like

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<v Speaker 1>he was playing me some stuff. Is When I came in,

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<v Speaker 1>he turned it up to like full volume, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why is he playing it to me so loud,

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can barely hear what's going on, Like

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:15.439
<v Speaker 1>it's so it was like searingly loud, Like it's like

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it was like it was so loud that the high

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>hats had bass in them, you know. And I was like,

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>how can you make music? Land? And I thought he

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>was just turning it up to sort of playing it

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<v Speaker 1>to me at the start, and then like we like

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 1>we kept that volume up for the entire night, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, this is crazy. How does it

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<v Speaker 1>want to have here? And then a few hours in

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I get it. I get it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>fucking sick. It dropped. I get it. I was like, oh,

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>this is how you make sick hip hop music.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have at any point did you there was

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<v Speaker 2>any point where you thought to say to him, can

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<v Speaker 2>you just turn it down?

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<v Speaker 1>It? Yeah? I wanted to while I was enjoying it

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<v Speaker 1>so much. That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I suppose when it's that music, you're like

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<v Speaker 2>a you're you're in on the thing, like because if

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<v Speaker 2>he came to you, yeah, and you were showing him

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff and he was like can you turn it up?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you'd be like, no, I do it, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what, I'm kind of ruined for it now. Like now,

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I work on my music twice as loud. Yeah, okay,

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 1>this album was mixed twice at least twice as loud

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<v Speaker 1>as an album of my really like I went and bought.

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<v Speaker 1>I went and ordered like some of the biggest monitors

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<v Speaker 1>I can find. I could order, you know, just because

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<v Speaker 1>just because like I was like, oh, I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I want this okay. You know, may

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<v Speaker 1>be deaf by the time I'm forty, but but it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be worth it. Yeah you know. Yeah. Now, I literally

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<v Speaker 1>I can't listen back. I can't play people my own

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<v Speaker 1>music unless it's definitely loud. I can't work on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a listening session last night with some like

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 1>media people, and I was just like, turn it up down.

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>We played it in New York to some like media,

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like all the big, big, big like publications

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. It was definitely that. I don't know if

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 1>they were ever to hear anything it certainly about the lyrics.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that how does can you do that?

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>As well?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it across the board hip hop people love it?

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Just bare loud?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah yeah, yes, I mean Travis probably one of the loudest.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think generally in hip hop, like you just

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>listen to it loud, that's what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool Generally, when you're in Australia, you're still based in Fremantle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the spider situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that? Excuse me?

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 2>The spider situation? Spider situation in Fremantle in particular, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? We live in a harmonious I have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask apicalship.

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>But no, I have to ask because when I go

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<v Speaker 2>to I've only ever been to Australia once. I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>a rachnophobic. Oh I see, So I'm like, is that so?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, when I meet someone from a different part

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I've not been to, I want to know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of where it is on my radar.

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Now I think about it. You know, we probably do

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>get the odd spied up, but no more than you

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<v Speaker 1>would get anywhere. I guess from a non arachnophobe talking

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to an arachnophobe, it's kind of rich for me to say, like,

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>what's your big idea? What's your big problem? Probably because

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<v Speaker 1>I understand it's like a thing. So in that regard, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, man, as long as you don't stay in

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<v Speaker 1>like a house where they don't really care about anything.

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Like if you as long as you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to someone's share house, you won't see any spiders. There

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>are no more spiders than anywhere else in the world.

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:41.959
<v Speaker 1>And you know what else. You know, it's funny like

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like catching ubers and stuff in America and they're

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<v Speaker 1>always like, oh, you know where you're from, Australia. Australia

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>or very dangerous. They're like, oh yeah, like I'm you

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of all the like bugs and snakes and animals

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and they can coue stuff. I was like coming from

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<v Speaker 1>someone coming from like a country where people are running

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<v Speaker 1>around with guns shooting each other, you know, and you're

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>worried about a snake out in the bush. You know,

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Like people are terrified to come to this country because

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>people have guns. You're allowed to have a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Good night,