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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Native Land family?
Speaker 3: This is Derek.
Speaker 2: Can you up from Mindy. We'll be read Indiana, Blue
Speaker 2: Dot Indy. My handle is sash Direwolf eighty one and
Speaker 2: Blue Sky And I don't listen to that many outlets
Speaker 2: between you guys, Abbie, Don, Laurie, Karen, and Joy. That's
Speaker 2: about it. But I've been getting a lot of chirps,
Speaker 2: a lot of articles have been coming my way about
Speaker 2: how this selection has been solen, tampered with or whatnot.
Speaker 2: And I've been thinking it all along. I've been thinking
Speaker 2: that he was silently thinking it but not saying much
Speaker 2: about it. So my only question is, can we talk
Speaker 2: about it just for a little bit without even coming
Speaker 2: down as some conspiracy theories that the right wing is
Speaker 2: going to run with, Because this is serious and we
Speaker 2: still matter, So can we talk about.
Speaker 4: Us up Native pot Land. I am so glad to
Speaker 4: be home with y'all. Y'all just don't know what y'all
Speaker 4: do to my spirit.
Speaker 1: Y'all just don't know. I was man, we need we
Speaker 1: needed y'all.
Speaker 4: First, let me say that so I know y'all see
Speaker 4: what's going on between Elon and his boyfriend Donald Trump,
Speaker 4: and I am I think in Angela. With your degree,
Speaker 4: I hope you can correct me. Elon's basically when he's tweeted,
Speaker 4: you wouldn't be in the White House if it wasn't
Speaker 4: for me, he's basically.
Speaker 1: Confirming that the election was fraudulent.
Speaker 4: And the other part, So when does the investigation begin?
Speaker 4: How does investigation begin? Is there anything that we, as
Speaker 4: voting or I'm sorry, paying taxpayers can do to call
Speaker 4: to get an investigation started? Because yeah, is is spelling tea.
Speaker 3: I don't like him.
Speaker 4: I still don't like him, but he's spilling the tea
Speaker 4: that we need to get that that.
Speaker 1: That man out the house. This administration is a joke.
Speaker 4: It's it's really I just I just don't know what
Speaker 4: else to say.
Speaker 1: But again, I love y'all.
Speaker 4: I love y'all so much, and thank you for everything
Speaker 4: that you do for our community.
Speaker 1: Keep going, keep doing it.
Speaker 3: Please, I love her spirit.
Speaker 1: I just this is one I just want to take
Speaker 1: a little pause just to say, you guys, I need
Speaker 1: y'all to understand something for me. In the Black National Anthem,
Speaker 1: the last line says, true to our God, true to
Speaker 1: our Native Law. The podcast Native Land Pod, it is
Speaker 1: not Native Pod.
Speaker 3: To correct me on the name of the tour. The
Speaker 3: whole time, my heart is with it still, their heart
Speaker 3: is with it. Their heart is with it.
Speaker 1: It's okay, you know what I'm My favorite tour name
Speaker 1: was when Mayor raz And shout out to Mayor Raths
Speaker 1: who for running a very good race in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: I hate the outcome. I just knew he was going
Speaker 1: to get a boost from everything that's happened and looking
Speaker 1: like he was the actual opposition leader. But Andrew, can
Speaker 1: I just say he said on the tour, he said,
Speaker 1: I went to newer He was like, hey, everybody, welcome
Speaker 1: to the State of the People, to the State of
Speaker 1: the People, Power, State of the People, to the all
Speaker 1: Power to the People tour.
Speaker 3: I was like, what, I like the People tour.
Speaker 1: But yes, it's Native Lamb Pod. So this is the
Speaker 1: Native Lamb Pod Mini.
Speaker 3: Pad for the Native Pod of the Land.
Speaker 1: Wow, Andrew, that doesn't behoove you to troll your own podcast.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not offended.
Speaker 1: It's a conspiracy. I believe happened is Andrew paid this
Speaker 1: one to submit.
Speaker 3: This fell her energy. I felt the love that she
Speaker 3: has from.
Speaker 1: She was recording video with the child in the car, like.
Speaker 3: Which I'm also loving. I got and they're not always obedient,
Speaker 3: and it's all good. It's all good, Okay. So what
Speaker 3: we missed some of I missed some of the dimes.
Speaker 3: I guess that were dropped by Elon because I really
Speaker 3: despise him, and I despise the person he was fighting with.
Speaker 3: You know, I couldn't even I can't even conceptualize the
Speaker 3: enemy of my enemy as my anything but enemy. So
Speaker 3: they're all enemies to me. So I missed the dimes.
Speaker 3: What were the dimes?
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. So Elon Musk and Donald Trump
Speaker 1: have been fighting. You know, two egos just can't rest together,
Speaker 1: Like at some point that wounded ego leadership is going
Speaker 1: to clash. We saw that happening along the way. And
Speaker 1: I think that the issue that people are bringing up
Speaker 1: is Elon Musk's overhanded involvement in the outcome of the election.
Speaker 1: What we know is he spent two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars in his as an America America pack save
Speaker 1: America pack, whatever that pack is called. But he spent
Speaker 1: all this money in the election and basically paid for
Speaker 1: his role arguably right in this in this Trump administration
Speaker 1: to have an office in the on the White House
Speaker 1: complex and now these two folds is fighting.
Speaker 3: But did he say you wouldn't be in the White
Speaker 3: House without me?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Because I think that's what That's what I had heard
Speaker 3: the last questioner say it was.
Speaker 1: I think Nick is going to put the tweet up.
Speaker 1: So he says, without me, Trump would have lost the election,
Speaker 1: Dims would control the House, and the Republicans would be
Speaker 1: fifty one forty nine in the Senate. And then he
Speaker 1: says that that's pretty specific, such ingratitude it is. But
Speaker 1: he doesn't say that he engaged in election fraud. He
Speaker 1: doesn't say the thing that some of us have been wondering, like,
Speaker 1: you know, these satellites he's doing, can they interfere with
Speaker 1: the machine means? You know, is there.
Speaker 3: Even go into detail? He simply said without me, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then there's some pretty specific statements here, which is the.
Speaker 1: The Dims would have won that House and that it
Speaker 1: would have been a fifty one forty nine Republican leg.
Speaker 3: So how do you get that specific saying Republicans would
Speaker 3: have still won the Senate but that the vote would
Speaker 3: have been forty one fifty one. That's just a level
Speaker 3: of specificity that we don't often hear which states would
Speaker 3: have gone differently, right, I mean, I'm trying to read
Speaker 3: it time like.
Speaker 1: You're ready to sit on the Senate and the Senate
Speaker 1: das and a Judiciary committee and do a hearing.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 3: I'm going I just want to know where he's where
Speaker 3: he's driving these numbers.
Speaker 1: You should pretend like you're a senator and let me
Speaker 1: be Ela Musk.
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to. I honestly, I told y'all
Speaker 3: for the listening public. I said to Angela. I think
Speaker 3: she already knows I hate a conspiracy. I hate one
Speaker 3: mostly because the world is screwed up enough as it is.
Speaker 3: Why do we have to go a layer beneath it's
Speaker 3: screw ity to screw it up.
Speaker 1: We know you always make it up. But so here's
Speaker 1: the thing, brother, So here's I think for me, it
Speaker 1: never felt right right Like, it never felt right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it never felt right, And I told you this before,
Speaker 1: but it felt the same way to me. Maybe not
Speaker 1: as bad, but very similar to me as it did
Speaker 1: in your election. I'm still there's nothing anyone in Florida
Speaker 1: can do to convince me that Ron DeSantis won that
Speaker 1: election fair and square. They like patently refused to count
Speaker 1: some ballots. There were ballots in post offices in Florida
Speaker 1: that they just would not count.
Speaker 3: Again a place I can't allow myself.
Speaker 1: To say, Okay, well, I'm sorry, let's go back to.
Speaker 3: Now, just to say that it is a difficult enough
Speaker 3: thing to have to deal with all of the blow
Speaker 3: back from that whole thing, to feel assured in one
Speaker 3: way and validated in one way, and then it turns out,
Speaker 3: you know, not so, and then who's governing and how
Speaker 3: bad are the folks that you fought for and stand
Speaker 3: for are suffering under that governance? Right? And so I
Speaker 3: have to deal with I think we all have to
Speaker 3: deal with. Okay, once an election has been certified and
Speaker 3: this is the outcome, unless there's some pretty pretty pretty
Speaker 3: compelling and rich stuff to go with and a place
Speaker 3: to then have that all fought out and decided, there's
Speaker 3: no place to go but kind of where we are.
Speaker 3: So I have a hard time with, you know, with
Speaker 3: conspiracy theories, because I don't know where we can cure
Speaker 3: this thing at this point. If it didn't go right
Speaker 3: as relates to the presidency, we know it didn't go
Speaker 3: right from our votes right, like we like, this wasn't
Speaker 3: the person we wanted. I get it. Yeah, but once
Speaker 3: that person is seated in an office and the cure
Speaker 3: period is over, what other point is there to going
Speaker 3: down the road when it can't be reversed anymore? It
Speaker 3: can't be there's there isn't an outlet by which this
Speaker 3: thing can be reversed at this point. Yeah, so's our
Speaker 3: time going down the aisle.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess. I guess sometimes it's good to know
Speaker 1: for your peace of mind, Like you know how you
Speaker 1: have those moments in life where you're like, yes, am
Speaker 1: I crazy? I'm not crazy? Am I crazy?
Speaker 3: Look when the lev Parness texts started coming out and
Speaker 3: that kind of thing, like there were things that I
Speaker 3: thought that I knew and then now they were validated. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because there was a splinter there for these people that Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was the Russian oligarch guy who came in throwing
Speaker 3: money around. He and Rohnda Santis find themselves in really
Speaker 3: close relationship. He then becomes the go between between DeSantis
Speaker 3: and Rudy Giuliani, and then you know DeSantis saying, well,
Speaker 3: I really think he ought to you know, you ought
Speaker 3: to tweet about this investigation and uh, you know, get
Speaker 3: justice to do this is that and the third and
Speaker 3: all that stuff that's coming out there. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: knew they were in cahoots all along. There were denials
Speaker 3: all throughout, but I knew I kind of had a
Speaker 3: thing that this thing was happening the way that I
Speaker 3: thought it was. So to later find out once left
Speaker 3: partners got indicted and they would he was split up
Speaker 3: with Trump and split up with Dessantas and he starts talking.
Speaker 3: I started feeling some ways validated, but the election was
Speaker 3: not going to change. I was not going to become
Speaker 3: governor as a result of what was coming out. But
Speaker 3: it did feel good to know that I didn't I
Speaker 3: wasn't crazy. Yeah, And so maybe some of this is
Speaker 3: is that maybe we need to know that we're not crazy.
Speaker 3: But I do think different than my race. Elon Musk
Speaker 3: right wasn't in there, and that kind of money wasn't flowing.
Speaker 3: His connection to all of this kinds of technology and
Speaker 3: stuff that we probably won't ever know about was known,
Speaker 3: but what he said with regard to the fifty one
Speaker 3: forty nine is something to me. I want to know
Speaker 3: what states he thought would have gone differently, and why
Speaker 3: is he convinced that those states would have gone differently
Speaker 3: if it had it not been for him? What did
Speaker 3: he do? What certainty do you have?
Speaker 1: Do you know what might be a good point to
Speaker 1: just think about with it. I understand your position on
Speaker 1: the conspiracy theories and like floating concepts and ideas without
Speaker 1: hardcore facts, like I actually hate that, but I think
Speaker 1: there's a difference between a conspiracy theory that's infused with
Speaker 1: some discernment and intuition. I do. And then I also
Speaker 1: think ag part of what they like the questions help
Speaker 1: us get to is you know, when you're a kid,
Speaker 1: you learn about justice is like, this is not fair, right, right?
Speaker 1: So at the heart of what we're really talking about
Speaker 1: here is the fact that Elon Musk, if we're honest,
Speaker 1: had an outsized role in this election in ways that maybe.
Speaker 1: But let's say let's say that it's legal because the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court passed or signed off on Citizens United Right,
Speaker 1: Let's say that that's the case a lay person that
Speaker 1: can't donate twenty five dollars to a campaign, but they're
Speaker 1: watching Elon Musk, with the stroke of a check be
Speaker 1: able to control an election, control how the money is spent,
Speaker 1: control how the ads get put up, control the policy.
Speaker 3: Control an election, or control in electorate.
Speaker 1: And that too because he also he's getting sued right
Speaker 1: now in Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: For potentially people took vote, which I think there's something
Speaker 3: to that, right right, but he did that throughout in
Speaker 3: the presidential Yes, And this.
Speaker 1: Is my point. So what people are really tapping into
Speaker 1: is the fact that it's not fair. Citizens United made
Speaker 1: it such that it is not fair. And so what
Speaker 1: this invites us into, even if the conspiracy theory ends
Speaker 1: up falling flat and not being real, it invites us
Speaker 1: into challenging the pieces that aren't fair.
Speaker 3: I agree with that one thousand percent. And I'm opposed
Speaker 3: to Citizens of United and I'm opposed to, frankly, all
Speaker 3: of the conditions that allowed for corporations to play outside
Speaker 3: of roles in politics, because they existed before Citizens United
Speaker 3: as well. Citizens United just blew the cap off, but
Speaker 3: corporations was still sending money through methods that were undisclosed
Speaker 3: and that we're impacting on elections prior to Citizens United. Now,
Speaker 3: what Citizens United did is it made it much more
Speaker 3: naked out in the open, and I think increased in
Speaker 3: some ways the level of individual giving. Certainly the appetite
Speaker 3: for that exists today versus when it existed prior to
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court's decision. But I don't know that this
Speaker 3: is not fair, is what folks are getting at. When
Speaker 3: you read that tweet about Elon Musk him being very
Speaker 3: specific about the states. I wish you would have named states.
Speaker 3: Tell me which US senators that are there today would
Speaker 3: not have been there today were it not for whatever
Speaker 3: it is that you are taking responsibility for having done,
Speaker 3: because to me, it just is a little too specific,
Speaker 3: and I do think it's worth greater query. I also
Speaker 3: think that there is not a cure at this stage
Speaker 3: of the process of inquiry that could reverse the election.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's yeah.
Speaker 3: I think y'all a lot to have a part too
Speaker 3: to this, because as my count is, we are in
Speaker 3: ten minutes. I think there ought to be a part
Speaker 3: two that takes up the other ten minutes, with you
Speaker 3: and Tiffany going further, because I think she has a
Speaker 3: lot of questions and a lot of doubt about whether
Speaker 3: or not this election happened.
Speaker 1: We need to have Elon Muskar in here.
Speaker 3: I mean, if he wasn't trying to do a mea
Speaker 3: kopa right now, it might be worth reaching out to him.
Speaker 3: But he's now, he's he didn't needn reverse you know,
Speaker 3: then he reverse course. He's not saying I want to
Speaker 3: be your friend again, and I'm sorry for what I said. Donald,
Speaker 3: Will you take me back?
Speaker 1: What does this man have on these people and where
Speaker 1: they do this? What is that? Are they just so
Speaker 1: drunken in enamored with power by any means?
Speaker 3: I think it is absolutely drunken relationship with power. I mean,
Speaker 3: the man started thinking about all the things that this
Speaker 3: president has demonstrated that he is willing to do, whether
Speaker 3: it's in the law or outside of the law, to
Speaker 3: reap consequence. Yeah, So could he go and single handedly
Speaker 3: destroy every contract that Elon Musk has right now with
Speaker 3: the federal government?
Speaker 1: Arguably?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Elon, ain't that stupid?
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. Welcome home, y'all. I guess
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to think keep going, We're gonna figure
Speaker 1: it out. I'm gonna get to the bottom of this.
Speaker 1: I want to know what these satellites is doing. What
Speaker 1: is the satellites doing?
Speaker 3: Hey? You remember I can't even remember the show? But
Speaker 3: was it the beginning of with Carrie Washington to Fix
Speaker 3: It show? What's it called? Scandal? Thank you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where is Nick in this podcast?
Speaker 3: It's because he tried to add time to it and
Speaker 3: it's been over. But anyways, so so, but but remember
Speaker 3: when the when the conspiracy played out, and it was
Speaker 3: like twenty three votes per precinct and this one state.
Speaker 3: I don't know if twenty three is the number, but
Speaker 3: basically it was like x number of votes and it
Speaker 3: was a small, do minimous amount. The number of votes
Speaker 3: that were stolen per precinct were very small and unnoticeable. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was the That was the health of the conspiracy,
Speaker 3: that the numbers were so small that nobody would notice.
Speaker 3: But when you bought those numbers together in total, they
Speaker 3: resulted in the movement of an electoral vote.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking that if there was a conspiracy to
Speaker 3: be had, that it did not take place with huge numbers,
Speaker 3: that they were discrete numbers being shifted or shaved off
Speaker 3: per precinct in particular states that resulted in electoral votes
Speaker 3: being moved. I think if there was a theft to
Speaker 3: this election, that that is likely how it occurred. I
Speaker 3: don't think big numbers were at play. I think very
Speaker 3: small numbers on very marginal scales in very specific places
Speaker 3: may have taken place to result in a particular outcome.
Speaker 3: Welcome Home, y'all.
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