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Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Native Land family?

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Speaker 3: This is Derek.

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Speaker 2: Can you up from Mindy. We'll be read Indiana, Blue

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Speaker 2: Dot Indy. My handle is sash Direwolf eighty one and

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Speaker 2: Blue Sky And I don't listen to that many outlets

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Speaker 2: between you guys, Abbie, Don, Laurie, Karen, and Joy. That's

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Speaker 2: about it. But I've been getting a lot of chirps,

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Speaker 2: a lot of articles have been coming my way about

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Speaker 2: how this selection has been solen, tampered with or whatnot.

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Speaker 2: And I've been thinking it all along. I've been thinking

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Speaker 2: that he was silently thinking it but not saying much

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Speaker 2: about it. So my only question is, can we talk

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Speaker 2: about it just for a little bit without even coming

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Speaker 2: down as some conspiracy theories that the right wing is

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Speaker 2: going to run with, Because this is serious and we

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Speaker 2: still matter, So can we talk about.

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Speaker 4: Us up Native pot Land. I am so glad to

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Speaker 4: be home with y'all. Y'all just don't know what y'all

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Speaker 4: do to my spirit.

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Speaker 1: Y'all just don't know. I was man, we need we

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Speaker 1: needed y'all.

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Speaker 4: First, let me say that so I know y'all see

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Speaker 4: what's going on between Elon and his boyfriend Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: and I am I think in Angela. With your degree,

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Speaker 4: I hope you can correct me. Elon's basically when he's tweeted,

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Speaker 4: you wouldn't be in the White House if it wasn't

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Speaker 4: for me, he's basically.

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Speaker 1: Confirming that the election was fraudulent.

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Speaker 4: And the other part, So when does the investigation begin?

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Speaker 4: How does investigation begin? Is there anything that we, as

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Speaker 4: voting or I'm sorry, paying taxpayers can do to call

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Speaker 4: to get an investigation started? Because yeah, is is spelling tea.

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Speaker 3: I don't like him.

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Speaker 4: I still don't like him, but he's spilling the tea

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Speaker 4: that we need to get that that.

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Speaker 1: That man out the house. This administration is a joke.

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Speaker 4: It's it's really I just I just don't know what

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Speaker 4: else to say.

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Speaker 1: But again, I love y'all.

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Speaker 4: I love y'all so much, and thank you for everything

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Speaker 4: that you do for our community.

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Speaker 1: Keep going, keep doing it.

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Speaker 3: Please, I love her spirit.

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Speaker 1: I just this is one I just want to take

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Speaker 1: a little pause just to say, you guys, I need

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Speaker 1: y'all to understand something for me. In the Black National Anthem,

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Speaker 1: the last line says, true to our God, true to

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Speaker 1: our Native Law. The podcast Native Land Pod, it is

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Speaker 1: not Native Pod.

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Speaker 3: To correct me on the name of the tour. The

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Speaker 3: whole time, my heart is with it still, their heart

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Speaker 3: is with it. Their heart is with it.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, you know what I'm My favorite tour name

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Speaker 1: was when Mayor raz And shout out to Mayor Raths

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Speaker 1: who for running a very good race in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: I hate the outcome. I just knew he was going

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Speaker 1: to get a boost from everything that's happened and looking

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Speaker 1: like he was the actual opposition leader. But Andrew, can

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Speaker 1: I just say he said on the tour, he said,

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Speaker 1: I went to newer He was like, hey, everybody, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the State of the People, to the State of

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Speaker 1: the People, Power, State of the People, to the all

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Speaker 1: Power to the People tour.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what, I like the People tour.

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Speaker 1: But yes, it's Native Lamb Pod. So this is the

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Speaker 1: Native Lamb Pod Mini.

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Speaker 3: Pad for the Native Pod of the Land.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Andrew, that doesn't behoove you to troll your own podcast.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not offended.

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Speaker 1: It's a conspiracy. I believe happened is Andrew paid this

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Speaker 1: one to submit.

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Speaker 3: This fell her energy. I felt the love that she

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Speaker 1: She was recording video with the child in the car, like.

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Speaker 3: Which I'm also loving. I got and they're not always obedient,

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Speaker 3: and it's all good. It's all good, Okay. So what

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Speaker 3: we missed some of I missed some of the dimes.

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Speaker 3: I guess that were dropped by Elon because I really

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Speaker 3: You know, I couldn't even I can't even conceptualize the

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Speaker 3: they're all enemies to me. So I missed the dimes.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. So Elon Musk and Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: Like at some point that wounded ego leadership is going

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Speaker 1: I think that the issue that people are bringing up

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Speaker 1: is Elon Musk's overhanded involvement in the outcome of the election.

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Speaker 1: What we know is he spent two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: America pack, whatever that pack is called. But he spent

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Speaker 1: all this money in the election and basically paid for

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Speaker 1: his role arguably right in this in this Trump administration

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Speaker 1: complex and now these two folds is fighting.

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Speaker 3: But did he say you wouldn't be in the White

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Speaker 3: House without me?

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Speaker 3: Because I think that's what That's what I had heard

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Speaker 3: the last questioner say it was.

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Speaker 1: I think Nick is going to put the tweet up.

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Speaker 1: So he says, without me, Trump would have lost the election,

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Speaker 1: Dims would control the House, and the Republicans would be

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Speaker 1: says that that's pretty specific, such ingratitude it is. But

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Speaker 1: he doesn't say that he engaged in election fraud. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't say the thing that some of us have been wondering, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, these satellites he's doing, can they interfere with

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Speaker 1: the machine means? You know, is there.

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Speaker 3: Even go into detail? He simply said without me, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then there's some pretty specific statements here, which is the.

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Speaker 1: The Dims would have won that House and that it

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Speaker 3: So how do you get that specific saying Republicans would

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Speaker 1: You're ready to sit on the Senate and the Senate

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Speaker 1: das and a Judiciary committee and do a hearing.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: I'm going I just want to know where he's where

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Speaker 3: he's driving these numbers.

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Speaker 1: You should pretend like you're a senator and let me

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Speaker 1: be Ela Musk.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't want to. I honestly, I told y'all

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Speaker 3: for the listening public. I said to Angela. I think

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Speaker 3: mostly because the world is screwed up enough as it is.

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Speaker 3: Why do we have to go a layer beneath it's

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Speaker 1: We know you always make it up. But so here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, brother, So here's I think for me, it

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Speaker 1: never felt right right Like, it never felt right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in your election. I'm still there's nothing anyone in Florida

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Speaker 1: election fair and square. They like patently refused to count

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Speaker 3: Again a place I can't allow myself.

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Speaker 3: Now, just to say that it is a difficult enough

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Speaker 3: for are suffering under that governance? Right? And so I

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Speaker 3: to then have that all fought out and decided, there's

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Speaker 3: So I have a hard time with, you know, with

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Speaker 3: as relates to the presidency, we know it didn't go

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess. I guess sometimes it's good to know

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Speaker 1: have those moments in life where you're like, yes, am

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Speaker 3: Look when the lev Parness texts started coming out and

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Speaker 3: I started feeling some ways validated, but the election was

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Speaker 3: But I do think different than my race. Elon Musk

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Speaker 3: His connection to all of this kinds of technology and

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Speaker 1: Do you know what might be a good point to

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Speaker 3: I think it is absolutely drunken relationship with power. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Arguably?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Elon, ain't that stupid?

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Speaker 3: Hey? You remember I can't even remember the show? But

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Speaker 3: It show? What's it called? Scandal? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Where is Nick in this podcast?

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