1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: I think the LATINX community is the Canarian the coal 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: mine of our democracy. And when so many people don't 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: think this is something that can meaningfully make a difference 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: for them, it reflects poorly on the quality and legitimacy 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: of our democracy. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: From futuro media, it's Latino USA. I'm Maria no Josa 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: and today have the presidential campaigns failed to mobilize Latino 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: voters once again. Thirty two million Latinos are eligible to 9 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: vote this election. That's a record, but research suggests that 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: in battleground states fifty seven percent of them are not 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: going to cast ballots. Historically, Latino and Latina turnout has 12 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: always been lower than that of whites, African Americans, and Asians. 13 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: Many had hoped that things would be different this time around. 14 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: During the primaries, Senator Bernie Sanders made Latinos and Latins 15 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: a focus of his campaign. Many of them called him Theobernie. 16 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: We call someone Latillo, we call him it's basically uncle, family, 17 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: his family, and it's an endearment. We know that when 18 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: deo'bernie gets elected, he's going to fight every inch possible 19 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: to get all the progressive policies that he's been fighting 20 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: for is that deal that will take care of you? 21 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: But then came COVID nineteen. 22 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: Then Bernie Sanders dropped out of the race, and Latino 23 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: and Latina voters it seemed that once again they became 24 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: a low priority. Reporter Giselle Regatao has been following Latino 25 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: voters since January in two key swing states, Pennsylvania and Florida, 26 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: and she's going to tell us what the Trump and 27 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: Biden campaigns are doing or not doing to reach these 28 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: voters and how this could impact the result of the 29 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: entire presidential election. Gisellie, welcome back to Latino USA. 30 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 5: What's a bit back, Maria. 31 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: So you've been. 32 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: Trying to answer this question for a while now, which 33 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: is why is it that Latinos vote in lower numbers 34 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: than in other groups across the electoral board. What have 35 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: you learned so far and why does it look like 36 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: the predictions are saying that Latino voter turnout could even 37 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: be worse in this election. 38 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 6: It's true, Maria, It's a question that I have been 39 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 6: obsessed with for a long time, and here's what I learned. First, 40 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 6: there are many barriers for. 41 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 5: Latinos to vote. 42 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 6: For example, they might be poor, less educated, many come 43 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 6: from immigrant families who don't have a history of voting, 44 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 6: and then on top of that, they are often ignored 45 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 6: by political campaigns. What I learned in the first story 46 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 6: I did in April is that most campaigns look at 47 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 6: propensity scores. That's basically the likelihood from zero to one 48 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 6: hundred that someone will vote in a particular election. So 49 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 6: what campaigns do Usually they only contact people who score 50 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 6: over seventy on those projections, and Latinos often score below seventy. 51 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 6: I talked to Lisa Garcia Beedoya. She's a political scientist 52 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 6: at University of California, Berkeley, and she's the author of 53 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 6: several books on get out of the vote efforts. She 54 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 6: says the most effective way to reach Latino voters is 55 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 6: not with TV or radio ads, but through knocking on 56 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 6: people's doors, something that is very challenging to do with 57 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 6: COVID nineteen. 58 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: My research and other people's research has shown that for 59 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: LATINX voters, particularly those that are low propensity, which is 60 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: a large proportion of our community, indirect methods like texting 61 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: and other kinds of contact that is not personal is 62 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: simply less effective, and my perception, my understanding is that 63 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: that kind of outreach is actually happening more from community 64 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: based organizations than from the political campaigns themselves. 65 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: That sounds right, I mean Latinos and Latinas, it's like 66 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: they like the high touch relationship with a candidate. So 67 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: if you think about that and if it matters to 68 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: these voters, it is going to be a bigger challenge 69 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: because of this pandemic, right g s. 70 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 6: Eilie absolutely think about people are worried about many things. 71 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 6: They are worried about their health, their safety, a lot 72 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 6: of people are struggling financially mentally, and another challenge is 73 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 6: that Latinos are the least likely to vote by mail, 74 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 6: probably because of the strust they might think the ballot 75 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 6: is not going to get to the right place or 76 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 6: it's not going to get counted. Lisa says. Latino voters 77 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 6: need to be educated also in the process of voting 78 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 6: by mail. 79 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: How the ballots are handled, how they can track their ballots. 80 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem to me that the campaign's either 81 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: campaign is systematically doing that work. 82 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: Okay, so it looks like the campaigns are not doing 83 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: enough outreach to Latino Latina voters that they're not doing 84 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: voter education. So I mean the question is giselli are 85 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: the campaigns speaking to these communities? Are they talking to 86 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: these communities at all? 87 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 6: I spoke to both campaigns Maria, and they both said 88 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 6: they are doing many things. They are hosting events, they 89 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 6: are contacting voters, they are even producing radio shows. But 90 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 6: both campaigns the clients to provide details when I ask 91 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 6: them about budgets or for example, how many people are 92 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 6: actually doing this outreach, they didn't give me any specifics. 93 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 6: They are doing a lot of ads on TV and 94 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 6: radio in Spanish like. 95 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 5: This one's presidency. 96 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: Biden ladam. 97 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 7: Pandemicauentas Trump continua cuentos. 98 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 6: So neither campaign would give me their budgets, even how 99 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 6: much they are spending on ads. But I was able 100 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 6: to get some of that information from another source. Chuck 101 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 6: Rocha was the senior advisor for the Bernie Sanders campaign, 102 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 6: and after Bernie dropped out, Chuck started a super pack 103 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 6: called Nuestro Pak. Because he buys ads, he gets reports 104 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 6: from TV and radio stations on who else is buying ads. 105 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 6: So he told me the Trump campaign started buying ads 106 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 6: in Spanish earlier in June, but that the Biden campaign 107 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 6: started to catch up in the last two months. 108 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 8: Joe Biden started off slow and late reaching out the Latinos, 109 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 8: and I think that was because of COVID, But I've 110 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 8: been watching his every move and he has been catching 111 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 8: up quickly, at least when it comes to the amount 112 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 8: of money that he is spending to speak with Latinos. 113 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 6: Chuck told me that from June to September, the Biden 114 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 6: campaign spent twice as much in TV and radio ads 115 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 6: in Spanish than the Trump campaign. But he says starting 116 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 6: early is actually the key here, and in his opinion, 117 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 6: campaigns should start talking to Latino voters at the same 118 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 6: time that they start talking to white voters. 119 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: So Giselli, as you said, you're obsessed with the Latino vote, 120 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: me too, and you, like me, are obsessed with looking 121 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: at two really important states, Florida and Pennsylvania. 122 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: So let's talk about Florida. Let's start there. 123 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Florida could swing the entire election potentially. It 124 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: has a huge Latino population that is hard to kind 125 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: of box in. So give us a kind of if 126 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 2: you can, on the complexity of the state of Florida 127 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: and the Latino vote. 128 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: But give us an overview of what's going on there. 129 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 6: Sure, Florida Maria, as you know, it shows both the 130 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 6: power but also the complexities of the Latino vote. First 131 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 6: of all, it's a large state, has more than twenty 132 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 6: million people, so it has a lot of electoral votes 133 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 6: twenty nine total, and it has a big Latino population. 134 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 6: About one in four people in the state is Latino 135 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 6: or Latina, and it's a very divided state. In twenty sixteen, 136 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 6: Trump won Florida by just one percent. Regarding the Latinos 137 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 6: in Florida, most of them are of Cuban descent. They 138 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 6: started moving to the state in the sixties after the 139 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 6: Cuban Revolution. But there are also a lot of Puerto 140 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 6: Ricans in Florida and a lot of them have moved 141 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 6: to the state after Hurricane Maria. Florida has also a 142 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 6: lot of Mexicans and Colombians and Venezuelans, so these are 143 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 6: all very different communities with different histories and different priorities. 144 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 6: There is one pole from NBC Marist that shows Trump 145 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 6: actually leading Joe Biden among Hispanics. They looked at likely 146 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 6: Hispanic voters and Trump is ahead in the state fifty 147 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 6: percent to forty six percent. But there's another pole from 148 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 6: Univision that looked at registered Latino voters and that one 149 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 6: shows Biden ahead in Florida fifty two to thirty six. 150 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: So Florida voters are fascinating. 151 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: Latino Florida voters are really fascinating themselves in terms of 152 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 2: the decisions that they make. So you spoke to many 153 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: of them, what did they say to you about how 154 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: they're making their decisions on who to vote for? 155 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I spoke to several voters Maria, and as I 156 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 6: said earlier, most Latinos in Florida are of Cuban descent 157 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 6: and they tend to be more conservative. Many of them 158 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 6: support President Trump. But I spoke with Hosea Garcia. He's 159 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 6: fifty seven years old and he's the general manager of 160 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 6: a grocery store in the city of Cluiston that is 161 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 6: between West Palm Beach and Fort Myers. This area, Maria, 162 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 6: was one of the hardest hit areas by COVID in 163 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 6: the state of Florida. So hose is from Cuba. He 164 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 6: came to the US thirty seven years ago, and he 165 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 6: became a citizen about ten years ago. He's a registered Republican, 166 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 6: but he told me he is not going to vote 167 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 6: for President Trump the way the. 168 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 9: Country. 169 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 10: I mean a lot of stuff that he's always talking 170 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 10: about on the media, on the internet. 171 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 8: I mean, like a little kid, you know. 172 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 11: I don't think that. 173 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 9: The right president for United States. 174 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 6: So Ozette told me he never liked Trump and he 175 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 6: actually voted for Hillary in twenty sixteen. He says he's 176 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 6: particularly worried about healthcare and how expensive it is in 177 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 6: the United States. I spoke to him for the first 178 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 6: time in late July. He had not been contacted by 179 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 6: either campaign. I called him again in early October and 180 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 6: he said he only got mail from the Republican Party. 181 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 6: I also interviewed a Latina farm worker in Florida who 182 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 6: is a registered Democrat. Her name is Antonio Aguire, and 183 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 6: I first spoke to her also in July, and at 184 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 6: the time aria she didn't even know that Biden was 185 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 6: the candidate running against Trump. I called her again in 186 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 6: October and she still had not heard from either campaign, 187 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 6: neither by phone, call, text, or a mail. So she 188 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 6: says she will vote for Biden because she's very much 189 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 6: anti Trump, but still she didn't know a lot about 190 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 6: the election. 191 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 4: Coming up. 192 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:19,119 Speaker 2: On Latino USA, we continue our conversation with reporter Giselli Pegatao, 193 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: and we turned to a Latino family in Pennsylvania who 194 00:12:23,440 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: have some diverse opinions on politics. Stay with us, Yes, hey, 195 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: we're back, and we've been speaking with reporter Giselli Regatau 196 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: about the importance of the Latino Latina vote in this 197 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: presidential election and how the two campaigns have or rather 198 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: have not been reaching out to voters in key states. 199 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: We're going to get back to that conversation now as 200 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: we turned to Pennsylvania. All right, so Pennsylvania couldn't be 201 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 2: more different than Florida. So what's happening in terms of 202 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: the Latino vote there and how it may not be large, 203 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: but it can have a big impact in a state 204 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,479 Speaker 2: like Pennsylvania. 205 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 6: Exactly, it is not as large as in Florida. Is 206 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 6: a percentage of the state, what is a growing population? 207 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 6: And also when you think about the number, there are 208 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 6: about four hundred and forty thousand eligible Hispanic voters in 209 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 6: Pennsylvania and Trump won the state by just about forty 210 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 6: thousand votes, So even a small percentage of the Latino 211 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 6: vote could literally decide the election in Pennsylvania. So in Pennsylvania. 212 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 6: Most Hispanics are of Puerto Rican descent, and the second 213 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 6: largest group is Mexicans. I started traveling to the state 214 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 6: in early January. I've been checking in regularly with one family, 215 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 6: in particular, the natal family. So let's start with Daniel. 216 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 6: Daniel Natao is thirty two years old. He has two kids, 217 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 6: and he's the head of maintenance at a school in 218 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 6: the city of Reading. Reading is actually one of the 219 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 6: poorest cities in the country and almost seventy percent of 220 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 6: the population of the city is Latino. Daniel is a 221 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 6: registered Democrat. In the primaries, when I spoke to him first, 222 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 6: he was a Bernie supporter. But now for the general election. 223 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 10: I definitely believe I'm going to be voting for Trump 224 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 10: this time around. 225 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 5: Can you tell me why you made that decision. 226 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 10: I think with what we're already dealing with as far 227 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 10: as Trump and what he has been doing, as far 228 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 10: as for everyone with the economy, and even though the 229 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 10: economy is not great right now, but I really do 230 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 10: believe it's a major impact because of the pandemic. But 231 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 10: prior to that, you know, we were sort of stable, 232 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 10: and I just don't know, I just feel that Biden 233 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 10: is not going to really bring. 234 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 8: Much to the table. 235 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 6: Daniel actually voted for Obama twice, and even though Biden 236 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 6: served as Obama's vice president, he says he still doesn't 237 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 6: have confidence in Biden. 238 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: So let's take this like kind of flip that around. 239 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: Because you spoke to a registered Republican in Florida who 240 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: told you that he is going to be voting for Biden, 241 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: and a registered Democrat in Pennsylvania who's going to be 242 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: voting for Trump. So you know, when you walk away 243 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: from that, it's like, well, how can you predict anything 244 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: in terms of the Latino vote. 245 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 6: Yes, it is very much up in the air, but 246 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 6: in general, nationwide, Latinos tend to vote Democrat. A Univision 247 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 6: poll of registered Latino voters for this election shows that nationwide, 248 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 6: more than sixty percent will vote for Biden and about 249 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 6: twenty four percent will vote for Trump. There are ten 250 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 6: percent there that are undecided. But when you are talking 251 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 6: about two swing states where Trump won by about one 252 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 6: percent in twenty sixteen, literally every vote matters, and the 253 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 6: Natal family just shows that the Latino vote is indeed 254 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 6: still very much at play. I not only met Daniel 255 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 6: earlier this year, but I also met his parents. Here 256 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 6: is how Daniel's dad, Danny said hello. 257 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 5: To me when I called him last time. Oh are you? 258 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 9: I am doing peachy. 259 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 6: Danny's super charismatic. He's the head of security at a 260 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 6: school in the city of Reading. He's of Puerto Rican descent. 261 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 6: He's actually was born in New York City and moved 262 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 6: to Pennsylvania almost thirty years ago. Now Danny Daniel's dad. 263 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 6: He used to be a registered Democrat himself, but in 264 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, people from the Trump campaign came to his 265 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 6: door and guess what, Maria. They convinced him and he 266 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 6: became a Trump supporter During the primaries, though Danny told 267 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 6: me he liked Bloomberg, so I thought maybe he would 268 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 6: go for Biden. But he says, no. 269 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 9: I'm ready for Trump again. Jobody's never accomplished anything. He's apt. 270 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 9: There's articles out there stuff showing that back in the 271 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 9: day how he was rapid. No, at least I might 272 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 9: Trump keeps a real He tells you like it is. 273 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 9: He doesn't hide it, but he does some to stupidly 274 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 9: admit it. 275 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 6: Now, what do you think about how he has handled 276 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 6: the pandemic. 277 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 9: That I have a little problem with him, he's not 278 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 9: done a great job. In that not done a great job. 279 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 6: Danny says he thinks that Trump didn't take the pandemic seriously, 280 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 6: that he was slow to respond, and then of course 281 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 6: President Trump got infected himself. 282 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 4: Well, these are very interesting opinions. 283 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: And again when you try to understand the Latino vote, 284 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: it's it's oftentimes very slippery because he's saying he disapproves 285 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: of the way Trump is handled one of the biggest 286 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: stories issues of the century, and he's still going to 287 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: vote for him though. 288 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: Right. 289 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 6: Yes, Danny says he has faith in Trump and he 290 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 6: thinks he will be able to take the country out 291 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 6: of this mess. Now, interesting, Maria, is that Danny's wife, Doris, 292 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 6: is very much a Democrat. I met her in February 293 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 6: at the Bergs County Sheriff's office where she's a captain. 294 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 12: And here is where the prisoners come and sit with 295 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 12: their lawyer. We hook them to the bench. They sit there, 296 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 12: they talk to their lawyer about their case. It's private, 297 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 12: so nobody could hear them. 298 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 5: Do they have to handcuffs? 299 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 4: Yes. 300 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 6: Doris is fifty three years old, and like Danny her husband, 301 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 6: she's very charming. When I first met her, she was 302 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 6: wearing her black uniform, but she had this bright pink 303 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 6: nail polish. 304 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 12: This is my Valentine's manure. I say, I have to 305 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 12: look like this every day. It's not very feminine. If 306 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 12: there's one thing that I could have feminine, is this. 307 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 12: That's what it's going to be. 308 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 6: Doris is very engaged politically. She and Danny used to 309 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 6: watch all the Baits together, even though they totally disagree. 310 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 6: You know, Danny, her husband is now a Trump supporter, 311 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 6: and she's very much a Democrat. But this year, the 312 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 6: last time I called her, she told me she's not 313 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 6: as interested in this election as she used to be. 314 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 7: To me, I'll be honest with you, Giselle. 315 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 11: With all that's going. 316 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 7: On right now in the world and all this craziness, 317 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 7: the election is not really the topic of conversation. It's 318 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 7: not really you know. I mean, I look at everything 319 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 7: that's going on every day, and I read the headlines 320 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 7: and I see the news, but it's not really hitting 321 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 7: home like it used to before. 322 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 6: So different than her husband Danny and her son Daniel. 323 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 6: Doris is very anti Trump, and she said she will 324 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 6: vote and she will vote for Biden. 325 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 7: I feel Biden would be a people's people, not money people, 326 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. He won't be there to 327 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 7: think about the finances. He'll be there to think about 328 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 7: the people and the problems. I know that financially we're 329 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 7: really struggling and things are really bad. I know that, 330 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 7: especially with this pandemic going on, things are not going 331 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 7: to ever be the same ever. Again, this has changed 332 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 7: the history of the world. But we need to concentrate 333 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 7: on people themselves. 334 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: So is there something Gizellie about the natal family that 335 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: you think can kind of show us something larger about 336 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: how Latinos might vote. 337 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 5: Well. 338 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 6: One thing that we might want to consider here, Maria 339 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 6: is gender. So Lisa Gociabedoya again from UC Berkeley. She 340 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 6: told me poules have found a ten point gap in 341 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 6: Trump approval between Latino men and Latino women. 342 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: The toxic masculinity that is very much part of the 343 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: Trump rhetoric, that sort of manliness, the emphasis on guns 344 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: and violence and standing up to your enemies, really does 345 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: resonate with many Latino men. And we haven't had enough 346 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: conversation in the community about that gender gap. The role 347 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: that gender plays in political socialization within the LATINX community, 348 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: which is an important thing to think about in terms 349 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: of the future of the community's politics. 350 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: So, Jizelie, I have to tell you, having covered presidential 351 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: campaigns quite often in my career, I'm a little surprised 352 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: and taken aback by the fact that the campaigns did 353 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: not share with you how much money and staffing that 354 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: they're directing to the Latino and Latino vote. That's kind 355 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: of a basic and I'm wondering, does that make you 356 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: think that Latinos and Latinas will continue to be ignored 357 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: by the political campaigns. 358 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with you, Maria, I'm very disappointing. I 359 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 6: think one thing Latinos have in our advantage is that 360 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 6: we are a growing population. So and in battle ground 361 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 6: states in particular, Latinos grew more than any other racial 362 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 6: or ethnic group as a share of eligible voters. So 363 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 6: even though Latino vote turnout is expected to be lower 364 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 6: than before as like a percentage of the whole group, 365 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 6: their numbers might be higher because there are more Latinos 366 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 6: now and the population will keep growing. Here is political 367 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 6: strategist Chuck Roche again. 368 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 8: I think that more Latinos will vote in this election. 369 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 8: That have ever voted in any presidential election. But the 370 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 8: problem is, sister, is that we're all super happy with 371 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 8: getting the bare minimum out of this community. If you 372 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 8: would spend the money and the time organizing and having 373 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 8: to help Latinos and having this conversation, the Latino committe 374 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 8: would vote at the same rate as African Americans or 375 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 8: white voters. 376 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 6: But also, Maria, I kind of want to leave on 377 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 6: a bright note. In Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, I met a retired 378 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 6: Latina who had never voted in her life. Her name 379 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 6: is Leonidas Sullivan and she's sixty eight years old. So 380 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 6: this year she voted for the first time in the 381 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 6: primaries and she's planning on voting again in the general election, 382 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 6: and she will vote by mail. 383 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 8: I like Biden. 384 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 11: I think he's he's you know read we're ready for 385 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 11: new blood, and I think he's I think he's a 386 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 11: good choice. Now, I like think you pick Kamala Harris. 387 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 10: You's a very smart woman. 388 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 11: She has insight, she knows her stuff, and she'll not 389 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 11: being intimidated by whatever Trump says. 390 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So, wow, sixty eight years old voting for the 391 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: first time. 392 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 4: What made her change her mind? 393 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 6: It's so interesting because Leonidas told me she was very 394 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 6: skeptical about politics, that she felt politicians are not sincere, 395 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 6: they don't have her best interest at heart. But she 396 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 6: says she dislikes Trump so much that she decided to 397 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 6: vote this time around. 398 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 11: Oh, I hope he loses and go back to Florida 399 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 11: and go golf that he always does. 400 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 6: Although I have to say, Maria, it occurred to me 401 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: that maybe the fact that I interviewed her a few times, 402 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 6: that I engaged her in a conversation about politics, about 403 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 6: what she cares about. Some of this conversation that Lisa 404 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 6: and Chuck told me that needs to happen to engage 405 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 6: Latino voters. I wonder if our conversation helped to turn 406 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 6: her into a voter. 407 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 2: You know, it's very possible because voting and party politics 408 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 2: and presidential elections, a lot of it is transactional. And 409 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: what Latino and Latina voters I think your piece is saying, 410 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 2: and many of us have been saying for a long time, 411 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: is that court us take us seriously, treat us with respect, 412 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: reach out to us, because that's your job on behalf 413 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: of the parties, and then we'll show up. 414 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 4: Congratulations Giselli. 415 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: If you made at least one non voter into a voter, 416 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 2: that's great news, exactly. 417 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for all of your reporting. 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