1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hi listeners. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Nimini here, host of historical records. Get ready to hear 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: about a historical hero through hip hop. Also, parents and teachers. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: You can download a free activity related to today's episode 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: by visiting story pirates dot com. 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Slash Historical Records, and now onto the show. 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: After a few words for the grown ups, game leave Phil, 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Good morning. 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Everyone, Ash. We don't want to wake the babies. 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 3: Could we go in and meet them? Yet? 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm hyped, Phil, You're always hyped. 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: This is different. I have a reason to be hype 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: that's driven from the heart. 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 4: Niminy, I'm hyped too, and you know me. I'm generally 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: a very chill guy. 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: That's true, Gabe Niminy. 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: Historically speaking, this may be the most hyped I've been 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: in a decade. 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: That's so sweet and factual. World, Just up. 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: When can we go in and meet our new family members? 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: Not yet, but very soon? Okay? Tell us when? 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: Tell us when? 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: Tell us when? 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well head inside as soon as I tell 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: our listeners what is going on? 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: The good call. 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: And for the record, I am super fired up. I 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: guess now we know what it would be like if 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: we were all fill. 30 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: I'm hyped all the time. I've even hired for you. 31 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: To fill in the listeners on the big news. 32 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: Hi, listeners, as you've just heard, we have some colossally 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: huge news around here. 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Tina's the Raccoon had seven babies. 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: Now let's all go into the nursery and meet them. 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: Historical Records. 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: You are now listening to Historical To make history, you 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: got to have struggles to make history. 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: You got the show toys cannot be quiet, loud as a. 40 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Riot to make history, you gotta make some noise. 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Historical Records, where we conduct highly experimental 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: experiments combining. 43 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: History and hip hop. 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: Today's episode is about an incredible musician and teacher named 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: Samuel Rodney Brown. 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: And we'llcome to that soon. Just after we meet Tina 47 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: the raccoons seven new babies. 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 3: Come on, well, hi to see them now, all right, I'll. 49 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: Just poke my head in and ask Tina if it's 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: a good time. Hey, Tina, is it okay? If we coming? O? 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: Great? 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: They're all away. Come on in, everyone we go. 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 4: Uncle Gabe is on the scene. 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Look at those perfect angels. These kiddos are so cute. 55 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: How are you feeling? You should be proud nervous. What 56 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: are you nervous about? 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 5: You? 58 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: That's true, there's a lot of kids, but all of 59 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: us could help out. 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we'd love to. 61 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want to hang with these little guys? 62 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: You know the old saying it takes a village to 63 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: raise a gaze of raccoons? 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: He Beny, why are you talking about the gaze of 65 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: the raccoons? The baby's okay, they can't focus the little 66 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: lies yet. 67 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: No, no, Phil, a gaze is what you call a 68 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: group of raccoons? 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: What Phil's been educated? 70 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, Tina, we're here to help, but Phil and Lee, 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: perhaps you could be the first. 72 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: To help out. Gabe and I have a date with history. 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: I honestly thought you'd never ask. 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: We're on it. Okay, Gabe, let's hit it. Wait where 75 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: is Gabe? 76 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: Looks like he's taking that grand piano for a walk. 77 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: Gabe, do you get the baby's a grand piano? 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: Not quite? This is today's simulator. 79 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: That makes way more sense. Okay, friends, we will be 80 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: back soon. Congrats again, Tina, We are so excited me. 81 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: Phil and Lee, thanks for helping out with the kids. 82 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: It's our greatest honor. 83 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: Give me my gaze trained on this gaze of raccoons. 84 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: Learn that. 85 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: All right, Gabe, how do we get the simulator to work? 86 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 4: I just have to play the right notes. 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: He found the right notes. 88 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: Welcome to nineteen twenty. We're in Los Angeles on Central Avenue, 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: in the heart of black Los Angeles. 90 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: Oh, what a lovely Sunday afternoon. 91 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 4: Hey, how'd you know it was a Sunday? 92 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: Everyone on this street is wearing their Sunday bests. 93 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: You're getting good at this, I know. 94 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: Hey, look there are. 95 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: Five enormous pianos on the front lawn of that house. 96 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: And now there's a crowd for me. 97 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: See that super dapper man wearing a cape and white gloves, 98 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: who's raising his golden cane? 99 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: Is that Samuel Rodney Brown. 100 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: Actually no, it's William T. Wilkins. He's a local music 101 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: legend and a piano teacher with his very own conservatory. 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 6: My five star students, take your seats. 103 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 4: See the kid at the piano on the left, that's 104 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: an eleven year old Samuel Rodney Brown. 105 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: So before Samuel Rodney Brown became a great teacher, he 106 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: had a great teacher. 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: Inspiration begets more inspiration. 108 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 6: Listen to this, Okay, Samuel, you're up first. Let's show 109 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 6: this audience what you got, shall we for you must 110 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 6: learn to perform for your community, and you must learn 111 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 6: to make mistakes in public. Now showcase your talent, share 112 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 6: your art. 113 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: Cave. 114 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: This front yard concert is so cool. 115 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 4: I agree, and there were plenty of them. In fact, 116 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: William T. Wilkins mentored Samuel for ten years. 117 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: Samuel is playing Wagner and Verity. That stuff is really 118 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: hard to play. 119 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 4: His teacher thought it was important to learn to play 120 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 4: the classics. 121 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: Of course, I just don't normally think about playing the 122 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: classics in this kind of environment. 123 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: There's cars, honking, dogs barking, crowds yelling. 124 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 4: William says, it's an exercise in blocking out the distraction. 125 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: Ooo. 126 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 4: Here comes the big finish. 127 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 6: Thank you for coming everyone. Now it's time to give 128 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 6: out the medals. 129 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: Gabe. 130 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 4: He gives the kids medals gold, silver, and bronze based 131 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: on the performance. He liked to create a healthy competition 132 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 4: and have it feel like a celebration of practice and 133 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 4: hard work. 134 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 1: Oh, it's pretty awesome. Why is he giving Samuel a dollar? Ooh? 135 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 4: If you play passionately enough that you break a piano string, 136 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 4: you get a dollar. 137 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: I wish William I taught me piano when I was eleven. 138 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: I mostly learned from videos online and my only reward 139 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: was having to watch the. 140 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: Ads between lessons. 141 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: Times have really changed. Speaking of which, let's change time. 142 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: Where are we now? 143 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: Welcome to Jefferson High School. This is where Samuel Rodney 144 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: Brown went. 145 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: There are so many kids at this school. Are we 146 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: still in La yep? 147 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: Jefferson is in the heart of south central Los Angeles 148 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 4: and the year is nineteen thirty six, Gape. 149 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: I can't help but notice that all the students here 150 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: are black, and it looks like most of the teachers 151 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: are white. 152 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 4: That is correct, but not all the teachers are whitey. 153 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: Look at all the kids gathering around that one classroom 154 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: where music is coming from. 155 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: That must be the music room. 156 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 4: Indeed it is, and I think you'll recognize the teacher. 157 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: It's Samuel Rodney Brown. 158 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: As you can see, the kids absolutely love him, and 159 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: his school band is the pride of Jefferson High. 160 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: That's so cool. 161 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: Look, he maybe the most popular teacher I've ever seen 162 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: at of high school. 163 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 4: But he almost didn't get the job. Really, Yeah, let's 164 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: stay at Jefferson, but go back in time, just a 165 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: little bit to check it out. 166 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: Oh, looks like we're in the teacher's lounge now. 167 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: As you can see, this is back when all the 168 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: teachers were white. 169 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: What are they discussing? Everyone seems pretty upset. 170 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 4: They're talking about whether or not Samuel Rodney Brown should 171 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: be allowed to be a teacher here. 172 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: That is crazy. 173 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: He's beyond qualified for the job, and he went here 174 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: as a kid. 175 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely, but it was controversial because he would have to 176 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: break the color barrier. He would be the first ever 177 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: black teacher at Jefferson and in the entire Los Angeles 178 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 4: Unified School district. 179 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: That's incredible. How did he do it? 180 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: He used a form of activism called petitioning, and he 181 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 4: managed to get over fifty signatures from the community endorsing 182 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: his appointment to be the music teacher. 183 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: I see. 184 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: And once he got those signatures, he was accepted. 185 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 4: Not exactly. Even with so many people supporting him, some 186 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 4: white teachers were so unhappy to work with him that 187 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: they put in their papers to transfer to a new school. 188 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: That's so messed. 189 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: Up, very much so. And the pressure was high on 190 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: Samuel Rodney Brown to perform in public, just like in 191 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: the old days on Central AB at the Sunday afternoon recitals. 192 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 7: Samuel Rodney Brown, please come to the office of the 193 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 7: assistant to Superintendent Gabe. 194 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like a very fun meeting. 195 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: What did the assistant superintendent say to Samuel? 196 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: He told him you got the job finally, but that 197 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: he would have to do the work of three white men. 198 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: That is so unfair, It's horrible. 199 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: But Samuel was not deterred at all because he was 200 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 4: so talented, such a hard worker, and so dedicated to 201 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 4: his students. 202 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: And constantly impressing them with his musical knowledge as we saw. 203 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: But I have a question. 204 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: Nowadays it's so easy to check out new music, but 205 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: how would someone like Samuel stay up on new things 206 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: coming out? 207 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: Niminy, You cannot believe how well you just set up 208 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: the transition to our next piece of history. 209 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh I can't believe it. I'm very talented too. 210 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: And speaking of which, this time I'm gonna play us 211 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: to the next time in location. 212 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 4: Please do We're headed to nineteen forty. Welcome to one 213 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: of the coolest after hours clubs in Los Angeles. 214 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: Gay This club is off the hook, a little smoky, 215 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 2: but pretty. 216 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: Groovery as they'd say nice nineteen forty slang use thank you. 217 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: Also, everyone is getting along so well. 218 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: Weren't most places still segregated in nineteen forty. 219 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 4: After hours clubs At this time, we're almost secretive places 220 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: where blacks and whites could mingle over their shared love 221 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: of jazz. 222 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: And look, there's Samuel Rodney Brown. 223 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: Right on the stage in the middle of it all. 224 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: To answer your question from before, this is how he 225 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 4: kept up with the times. He would travel to all 226 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: the jazz clubs. You see, before you could get new 227 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: music on your phone, you would have to travel. Irl, 228 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 4: that makes a lot of sense. 229 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: And who are those people he's talking to? 230 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: Well, that guy over there in the single breasted suit 231 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: is nat King Cole. And the gentleman seated at the 232 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: piano as Duke Ellington. 233 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: Incredible. 234 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: And wait a minute, is that glamorous woman who was 235 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: about to sing ethel Waters? 236 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: You bet she is my actual favorite? 237 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: My goodnesscape, this is wild. 238 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 2: I can't believe Samuel Rodney Brown is just casually playing 239 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: jazz and Robert Shoulders with the greats of his time. 240 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 4: I know, And how does he have the time? It's 241 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 4: kind of like Samuel Rodney Brown never slept. 242 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: Must have been. 243 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: Pretty neat for Samuel's students to know that their teacher 244 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: was playing with the most famous musicians of the time. 245 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: And he didn't just play jazz with them late night 246 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 4: in the clubs where the kids weren't allowed. Everyone respected 247 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: him so much. These jazz titans would actually come to 248 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 4: Jefferson High School and play with him in the auditorium 249 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 4: and talk to the kids. 250 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: What that's the. 251 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: Equivalent today of getting Beyonce or Billie Eilish to swing 252 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: by your high school. 253 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: Can you imagine? 254 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: It's got me looking so crazy right now. 255 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: I see what you did there. 256 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: Samuel Rodney Brown walked that walk. 257 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 4: Huh totally, and many of his students went on to 258 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: become jazz stars in their own right. 259 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: He was so incredibly generous with his talents. 260 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 4: He once said he learned from an older gospel singer 261 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 4: from the era. If you have a kindness shown, pass 262 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 4: it on. That mantra influenced Samuel Rodney Brown greatly. 263 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: Gabe, thank you, this has been extremely informative. 264 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: That is very good to hear, because I aim to inform. 265 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: Mission accomplished good sir. 266 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: Also diving into the life of Samuel Rodney Brown has 267 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: given me an idea about our growing simile in the bunker. 268 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: Ooh say more. 269 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, and there's no time to tell you. Now I 270 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: have to race off to turn this history into a song. 271 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: You certainly don't want to be late for that. 272 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: No way, a musician must be on time if they 273 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: have any hope of being in time. 274 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 4: Shall I do the honors and beam us to the studio. 275 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 2: Let's do Itcape, I'll see you on the other side. Listeners, 276 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: It's time for the life of Samuel Rodney Brown to 277 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: turn into a historical record. 278 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: And once again nimony is on the mic. 279 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 8: Wanta Tanta tantae ony w. 280 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: This is the story of Samuel Rodney Brown. 281 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: He was one of three black teachers able to teach 282 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty six after he broke the color barrier 283 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: for two He grew up in south central California, so 284 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: the piano at seven years old. 285 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: As he was growing up, jazz was up and coming. 286 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 8: He liked that. 287 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: Along with classic gold. 288 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: They try to tell him me good and play the classics, 289 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: cousin Jim Crow, but it's music. 290 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: How can you segregate? 291 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: He played it all until the January shirt each once 292 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: each one getting in your head music not just from years, 293 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: for you and you and them, because when each one, 294 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: each one, community is fat, that's a legacy. 295 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: The Samuel Andy Brown last he conducted the orchestra you 296 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: know it. 297 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: And he's ont six classes a day, twelve hour days. 298 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: He two no breaks one day. 299 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: The students will be better than by titles and the 300 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: teacher's front yard head, Oh the piano to the front 301 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: yard had people would come out just to hear him 302 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: play and anything that that's come he could play from that. 303 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: Each one, each one get it in your head music 304 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: not from me, It's for. 305 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: You and you and that because when each one, each one, 306 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: community is fat, that's a legacy. 307 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: The samurai around that, each one, each one get it 308 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: in your head. He fucked the jazz ban to be 309 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: and look curriculum. He went to school to school. He 310 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: was gotta students. That's a legacy. 311 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: The samurai around that. He bre local st class teacher, 312 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: students bout the craft. He paid his way through USC 313 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: and got music and edegrees, had to get fifty signatures 314 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: to even be allowed to teach. He was always looking 315 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: nice from his head. 316 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: To his feet. 317 00:15:49,880 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: Feed feed, feed, each one, each one getting in your head. 318 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: Music not just funny is for you and you and them, 319 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: because when each one, each one, community is fat, that's 320 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: a legacy. 321 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: The Samuel Runny Brown. Each one, each. 322 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: One get it in your head. 323 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: Jazzy something. He went to school to school. He was 324 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: got these guys. That's the legaee the same, You're Ronny Brown. 325 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: Each one's each one get it in your head. 326 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: Music not just funny is for you on you on them, 327 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: because when each one, each one, community is fat, that's 328 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: a legacy. The Samuel Honey Brown. We'll be right back 329 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: after a few words for the grown ups. Okay, listeners, 330 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: time to check in on Tina and her kids. 331 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Tina, how you go with the kids today? Oh? It 332 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: went great? That's crazy. Phil really took the lead. 333 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: Phil is tired, Phil wore himself out. 334 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: Well that's the first Tina. How are you mean your 335 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: ear's hurt? 336 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 5: Mean? 337 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: Of course? Phil, talk the kids to you, Oh, gay 338 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: little friends. 339 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: Let Joe nimine what we learned? Woof the best fearless 340 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: leader we know. 341 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 5: Whe. 342 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 4: Seed and so loud. 343 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: How is your adventure Nimini? Totally amazing? Thank you for asking. 344 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: In fact, it gave me an idea that would involve everyone. Ooh, 345 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: we're all ears ask Tina expressed. 346 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: Keeping these little guys engaged all day is quite a lot, 347 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: and it got me thinking, what if we start a 348 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: little school for the kiddos. 349 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 3: It's a lot of idea. 350 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: It will keep the kids occupied, and also we can 351 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: learn from each other. Everyone in the. 352 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: Bunker has such different talents. Phil could teach the kids 353 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: how to stay pumped. 354 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Gabe and Lee. He could teach the kid's history. 355 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: I love it. I call the Tudor period. And I 356 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: can teach the music of course like this, follow after me, kids. 357 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: Do ray me fa so louty. To be honest, that 358 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: went better than I thought it would. 359 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: Tina, what do you think? No, I knew you'd love it. 360 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 4: Wait, Niminy, Yes, Gabe, could I maybe teach the first 361 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 4: history lesson right now? 362 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: That's perfect because I have to head off to an interview. 363 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: What will you be teaching a history of garbage and 364 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 4: food waste? Yeah? I had a feeling this lesson would 365 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: go over well. 366 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Tea, I'll see you shortly. 367 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: I'm off to chat with Elijah and Kamassie Washington. 368 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 9: Hello, Kalassi, Heyah, Nice to meet you. 369 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 5: Nice to meet you too. 370 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: Hi, Elijah and Kamasi, tell us a little bit about yourself. 371 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 5: My name is Elijah, I'm eleven years old and I 372 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 5: live in Los Angeles, California. I have learned to play 373 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 5: the piano, recorder, guitar, and saxophone. 374 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 9: My name is Camasi Washington. I'm a saxophonist, composer, producer, 375 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 9: and ranger. And uh yeah, good to be here. 376 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you both here. Elijah, let's 377 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: start with your first question. 378 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 5: When did you first learn you had a thing for music. 379 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 9: You know, I'm a second generation musician, so music has 380 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 9: kind of always been in my life. But I can 381 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 9: tell you when I felt like I wanted to take 382 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 9: music seriously. I was in ninth grade and there's a 383 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 9: great teacher who passed away, Reggie Andrews. He was also 384 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 9: my dad's teacher, and he started a group called the 385 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 9: Multi School Jazz Band. Before that, I went to a 386 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 9: music high school and I was pretty good, but I 387 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 9: wasn't necessarily practicing that hard. And when I went to 388 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 9: go play in the Multi School Jazz Band, those kids 389 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 9: were serious. They sounded like the records and I still 390 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 9: kind of sounded like a kid, and we ended up 391 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 9: playing the Playboy Jazz Festival. But then, like the first 392 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 9: few weeks of me joining that band, you know, so 393 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 9: we're playing in front of seventeen thousand people. So I 394 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 9: figured at this big show, he's not gonna give me 395 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 9: a solo now because I don't even take I was 396 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 9: in the rehearsal. But you know, Reggie Andrews was a 397 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 9: master teacher, he was a master motivator, and so from 398 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 9: all those people, I'll never forget it. We were playing 399 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 9: red Clay and he pointed at me, and I did 400 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 9: my best, but I wasn't satisfied with where I was at. 401 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 9: So I was like, I'm a practice real hard and 402 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 9: next time he pointed at me and be ready, and 403 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 9: from there on I really took music. Seriously. 404 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: I love that story. 405 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 2: It makes me wonder, Elijah, what's the moment that had 406 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: an impact on you as a young saxophone player. 407 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 5: Our school had a performance and I had a solo. 408 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 5: I think I was playing can Can in front of 409 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 5: like Stevie Wonder because his daughter goes to my school, 410 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 5: so he was there in the audience. That's cool, and 411 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 5: I feel like I could have done better, but I 412 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 5: did what I could at the moment. 413 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing, Elijah. Do you have any questions for 414 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: Kumasi about Samuel Rodney Brown. 415 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 5: How did you first hear about him? 416 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 9: You know, I'm fortunate about My father is a music teacher, 417 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 9: my mother is a science teacher. And I grew up 418 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 9: in a community that really held the ideal of kind 419 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 9: of each one teach one like passing on the knowledge 420 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 9: from one generation to the next. That notion is something 421 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 9: that makes our music more than just a profession or 422 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 9: even just an art form. And so Samuel Brown is 423 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 9: a bit of a legend amongst that community. 424 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 5: How has mister Brown inspired you? 425 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 9: I would say that he's inspired me to look at 426 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 9: my music not just as something that serves me or 427 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 9: my wants or desires, but it's also a means of me, 428 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 9: you know, being a part of a community that can 429 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 9: help others. Samuel Brown's footprint, his work echoes as echoing 430 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 9: into the centuries after. Anyone who dedicates themselves to education 431 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 9: should look at someone like him and feel proud that 432 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 9: you are walking into his footsteps, because you know, you 433 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 9: just never know who that person is that you're giving 434 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 9: these these gems of wisdom to and what that person. 435 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 3: May do with them. 436 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: You know, this conversation helps me reflect on everything we've 437 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: learned about Samuel Rodney Brown. 438 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: Today, and it's making me think about how his legacy 439 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: lives on. Thank you both so much for being here. 440 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 5: Thank you, Chaussie. 441 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this. 442 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 5: Opportunity to meet you. 443 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 9: I'm on to meet you. I can't wait to hear 444 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 9: you play. 445 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: Well. 446 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: Listeners, we should probably check in on our brand new 447 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: bunker school and see how it's going. 448 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: Hey, Gabe, let it go. 449 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: Not to brag, but the lesson on the history of 450 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 4: garbage was a smash, partially because there is genuinely interesting 451 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 4: stuff to learn about food waste, but mostly because the 452 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 4: kids got to eat a ton of garbage throughout the lesson. 453 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: It was roast to watch. 454 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: Respectfully, Phil, you were not my target audience. Maybe next 455 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 4: lesson we can examine the history of hype. 456 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 3: Now you're speaking my language, Tina. 457 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: It looks like you enjoyed Gabe's lesson. Read good call, Tina, 458 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: looks like naptime. Indeed, I see you set up a 459 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: big mattress already. 460 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: That means it's time for a family snuggle. 461 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 3: Fire Feel is in for a naptime. 462 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: Here we go. 463 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: Let everybody jump in joke. 464 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: Oh you're laying on my head here nice Lalla Bye Tina. 465 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: The kids are asleep. Everyone stay cozy. I'm just gonna 466 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: sneak out and chat with our listeners. 467 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: Listeners, thanks for joining in today and for going on 468 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: a journey with me to learn about Sam You and 469 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: Rodney Brown. A huge thanks to today's guests, Camasi Washington 470 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: and kid interviewer Elijah. We'll be back next week with 471 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: another episode, another song, and another hero. Until then, remember 472 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: to make history, you gotta make some noise. 473 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: Bye. 474 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 7: Historical Records is produced in partnership with Story Pirate Studios, 475 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 7: Questlove's two on five Entertainment, John Glickman and iHeart Podcasts 476 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 7: Executive produced by Emir Questlove Thompson, John Glickman, Lee Overtree 477 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 7: and Benjamin Salka. Executive produced for iHeart Podcasts by Noel Brown. 478 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 7: Producers for Story Pirate Studios are Isabella Riccio, Sam Bear, 479 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 7: Eric Gerson, Andrew Miller, Lee Overtree, Peter McNerney and Niminy Ware. 480 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 7: Producers for two one five are Sean G. Britney, Benjamin 481 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 7: and Zarah Zolman, hosted by niminy Ware. Our head writer 482 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 7: is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polus. 483 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 7: Music supervision for two one five by Stroe Elliott. Scoring 484 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 7: and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric Erson. 485 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 7: Sound designed and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic 486 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 7: Room in New York City. Additional recording by Brett Tuban, 487 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 7: song mastering by Josh Hahn. Theme song by Dan Foster 488 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 7: and Eric Gerson and produced by Eric Erson. Production coordination 489 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 7: by Isabelle Riccio. Production management by Maggie Lee. The line 490 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 7: producer for Story Pirate Studios is Glennis Brault. Pr for 491 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 7: Story Pirate Studios is provided by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork 492 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 7: by Camilla Franklin. This episode was written by Duke Doyle. 493 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 7: The song Samuel Rodney Brown was written by niminy Ware, 494 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 7: produced by Stroe Elliott and Associate produced and vocal directed 495 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 7: by Eric Gerson. Special guests Kamasi Wa Washington and Kid 496 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 7: interviewer Elijah. This episode features performances by Langston Darby, Peter McNerney, 497 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 7: Lee Overtree, Gabe Pacheco, and Lee Polos.