1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Bobby here. Thank you for listening and 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: subscribing to the Bobby Cast. You know, because of Dan 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: and Chay's record, Good Things that's out. I thought we'd 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: played the origin story of the group, and we did 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Dan yesterday. Up next is Shay and how he originally 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: started as a solo artist and then he met Dan 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: at the house party. He talked about his first deal 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: with t Pain's record label and how they got justin 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: Bieber on ten thousand Hours, one of our favorite episodes 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago. Here is Shae Mooney 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: in the Origin story of Dan and Shay here on 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: the Bobby Cast. All right, welcome to episode to Shay 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: from Dan and Shay, which we had to partner in. 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: It's probably a year or so ago, and even for 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: him it was kind of weird coming in alone. But 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: my whole goal with these is to actually let people 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: hear individuals. Yeah, this is probably trouble for me. They 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: won't like our band after this. I don't think that's okay. 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: I think people are gonna like the band more after 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: after this, do you mind? And and again it's here's 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: the weird thing for me interviewing somebody that I kind 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: of know, is that there are things that I know 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: that I would never ask, and there are things that 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to ask in a personal space. It's 25 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: never you're just with a buddy and you just don't 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: ask ques. You know, like tell me about being seven? 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: You know that just never comes up. And we're somewhere, 28 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: you know. Um, So that's why I'm excited to have 29 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: you over. And also I got to prank you outside 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: of my house. He did. I got here, I was 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: a little bit scared. I'm not gonna lie because I 32 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: didn't know what your house looked like and how when 33 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: did you move? Did you move? Ye? In half? Like 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: a year and a half ago. Okay, yeah I knew that, 35 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: but I was just gonna ask it. But I didn't 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: know what your house look like. So I pulled up 37 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: and I was like, I have no I was gonna 38 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: text you that. I was like, I don't want to 39 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: be outside of like someone random's house, and I didn't 40 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: want to like not park. So I get out and 41 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: I ring the doorbell and what I thought was an 42 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: old woman answered hello out there. If I did, Hello 43 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: scared me. I was like, I'm scared this woman because 44 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: they had a camera and she's out there being like 45 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: and then I saw your face and I was like, oh, 46 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: he's thinking this is real. Yeah I was. I was 47 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: a little scared, like who is it anyway? Shah who 48 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: shaye mooney, I don't know how many money? And about 49 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: that time might be the door. I was scared that 50 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: I was going to open up to, like, you know, 51 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: someone prepared, because this house is very much of like 52 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: a fortress. It was like someone that's you know, loaded, 53 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: and stop it. I'm loaded, as in like I got 54 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: a gun. Do you want to speaking a loaded? This? 55 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: But this puts me on a good question. I googled 56 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: because I always think it's fun to google how much 57 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: people are worth, and it says that you're worth five dollars. Now, 58 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask you how much of worth because 59 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: I would never do that. I would never do that. However, 60 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: it's got to be more than that at this point 61 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: after especially by right like a little bit, I was 62 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: offended for you. I was like, the guy's written he's there, 63 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: shows are mine everything about you? Guys set up the 64 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: way my bank accounts are set up. I got checkings 65 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: and savings. Thanks are hard to track. But over right, 66 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: we're getting right into it. I'm just I wanted it 67 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: going to but you came up when you're like your 68 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: house is a fortress, you're so loaded. I'm loaded as 69 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: Then I'll punt from that question. Maybe it might be 70 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: over that, but I got I got a kid and 71 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: getting ready for a second, so I'm you know, And 72 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: I'll also say this about you. You didn't grow uploaded, 73 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: so it's not like this whatever you have fifty dollars 74 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: or what i've heard five million, whatever, And I don't 75 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: want to say anything that's close to that. It's close 76 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: to that. If that's going to be the rumor, I'll 77 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: go up to five that you've earned it. Is my 78 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: point likewise, which is, you know, whenever I um think 79 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: about you guys and I see you now and you 80 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: guys are you know, I was nervous and I'll come 81 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: back to this in a second. I wasn't nervous for 82 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: you when you announced an arena tour before it goes 83 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: on sale, because I was your first time to doing 84 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: arena tour and just as someone who has to put 85 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: up theaters and I'm nervous before they go on sale 86 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: to go as anybody going to show up because I'm 87 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: doing bigger theaters this time, so I was like, Wow, 88 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: they put up a Brena is I sure hope it 89 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: sells like crazy. And as I'm thinking that, I also, O, man, 90 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: I remember when those two dudes were just two dudes 91 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: doing karaoke and Nada they had their first song we 92 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: were I was hassling them on the radio and you 93 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: were struggling. Yeah, man, And that's We're so cool to 94 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: see and even myself to feel for you going on 95 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: so nervous for them as you're about to do arenas 96 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: like that's honestly, I think that's you know, people ask, 97 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, do you get nervous for anything anymore? And honestly, 98 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't get nervous performing, you know, playing show, because 99 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you don't really get necessarily nervous. It's more 100 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: of an exciting you know, your heart kind of starts 101 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: to race a little bit. You're excited about it. But 102 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: that's probably the most nervous that you get as an 103 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: artist is putting on a tour, because you just never know. 104 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: Selling tickets is different than getting hit songs, It really is. 105 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of that We've been trying to 106 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: build this grassroots thing for a while. We've been headlining 107 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: for a long time of doing small shows, and then 108 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, our last tour did well. But even before 109 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: that tour, I was I was nervous because it's like, 110 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: you just don't know Tuesday and Wednesday night shows. Like 111 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: you guys were the guys that were grinding doing week 112 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: night shows shows, and everyone else is doing what the 113 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: normal Nashville thing is do Friday, Saturdays and Thursday. But 114 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: you guys were grassrooting it early, which which again I 115 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: admire so much, but I just admire hustling, grit with talent. 116 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: And so whenever you put in a and I saw 117 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: the you guys announced it, that Rena Tory comes out, 118 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, first of all, it was proud 119 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: because you guys have graduated to that level. But then 120 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm going, please, God, I hope it sells like crazy, 121 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: because I know, just in my little world of doing comedy, 122 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: when I'm putting up a bigger theater, I'm like, oh, 123 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: people like me. I hope they like you more than 124 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: they used to. As much as you were nervous. Like 125 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: just imagine, I was about thirty times as nervous as 126 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: I can imagine that you were for us, because it's like, man, 127 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: even like the biggest room we did on the last 128 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: tour was about I think, like tickets, you know, and 129 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: that's like we've done like a couple of days where 130 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, we've got up there a little bit in 131 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, but that's like jumping from 132 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: even eight to like eighteen is just that's a lot 133 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of those eighteen rooms. Yeah, I was 134 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: just hoping for one. I was like, just God, please 135 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: let us sell out, just one because that's like And 136 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: we were starting in Nashville too, and I remember where 137 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: I was. I was back I was back home in 138 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: Arkansas and I was I can't remember why I was in, 139 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: but I was visiting my family. And uh, I remember 140 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: we had put you know, we're about to put on 141 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: the tour for sale, and it was in the pre 142 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: sale and I was just like, when you're starting in Nashville, 143 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: that's like starting in your hometown. I mean that's you know, 144 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: that's where we all live now, that's where all of 145 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: our friends are. So like when you start there and 146 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: if you don't sell that out, it's like, well, it's 147 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: gonna be a long let's gonna be a long tour. 148 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: It's be a long tour. And another wrinkle on the 149 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: Nashville Show is that a home show that there's just 150 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: a lot of things you have to do that's not 151 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: a part of a normal show if you were in Milwaukee. 152 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Because the home show you have to entertain so many 153 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: people that you're close to, and it's the first show 154 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: where you have all this production. You're just learning, and 155 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: now you have all these extra people there and you're 156 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: doing freaking Bridge Stone Arena. Yeah, it's like, let's uh, 157 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, let's do this in our hometown when we've 158 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: never done this show ever, and it's gonna be too. Luckily, 159 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: it was like that was the first call that we got. 160 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: I was so so nervous that the tour wasn't gonna 161 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: still mean we we had hoped, you know, that it 162 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: would do well, but it was we got the call 163 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, we have to we have 164 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: to add it. I knew whenever I got the call, 165 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: They're like, all right, you know the Nashville Show. And 166 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: I was like, this is about to be either the 167 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: worst day in my life or like one of the 168 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: most exciting days, and they said we were gonna have 169 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: to add another show because we sold the tickets, and 170 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: I was like, that is that crazy? Man? Honestly, like 171 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: my heart was just like I couldn't believe it. And 172 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: that was kind of People asked like, what are those 173 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: moments where you know you feel kind of like, man, 174 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: this is like a dream come true. I mean that 175 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: that to me was you know, playing venues was really 176 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: more like The Rieman. That was kind of my when 177 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: you look at the biggest bands like that, I thought 178 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: were the biggest bands in the world, Like they were 179 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: playing places like The Rieman. You know that that size 180 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: of venue was like they made it and they're like 181 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: the biggest bands in the world. Bridgetone was never really 182 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: even on my radar. So I'll moved to town and 183 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 1: I realized that that was the place that people did shows, 184 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, that would be pretty amazing to do. 185 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,559 Speaker 1: But that was kind of the moment where I was like, Okay, 186 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: this is uh, that's probably one of the coolest things ever. 187 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean, your first was our first to sell out. 188 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: That the second one, yeah, now you didn't just sell 189 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: you had It's it's like I feel a proudness for 190 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: you and Dan both because it's just I've just seen 191 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: because we kind of came in at the same time. 192 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: I've seen you go from two guys that they patched together, 193 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: that you guys patched together, people like, I don't know 194 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: if their country, Yeah, that was your whole rap. I 195 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna make it. I don't know 196 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: if that they're you know, the guy can sing okay, 197 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: but they just didn't know for sure. I mean, it 198 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: was I saw one of the coolest uh Like it 199 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: was an Instagram message. I think this girl had sent 200 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: this picture to us, and she was like, I think 201 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: she had tagged us and it said I saw these guys. 202 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: It was in two thousand twelve, I think or two, 203 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: like right after we had met, and we were doing 204 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 1: this round at Soulshine Pizza that I don't think is 205 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: there anymore. I think it's something else now in Midtown 206 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: And she was like, I saw these guys play around. 207 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: You know, however, long ago in two thousand and thirteen, 208 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: and now I just bought a ticket to see them 209 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: in Bridge Down and it kind of took me. It 210 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: took me back for a second because I was just like, man, 211 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: this is just as as they think it's it's cool. 212 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: A lot of times you're so busy with building it 213 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: that it's hard to look back. And I saw that 214 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: picture and immediately in that moment, it was just like, well, 215 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: that's that's heavy. You know, we're struggling in that moment, 216 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: couldn't We're probably paying for Honestly, I think the deal 217 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: we did, we weren't getting paid for the round. It 218 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: was we got a slice of pizza, like that was 219 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: what we were getting pad pizza and experience, yeah absolutely, 220 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: and and playing to where people would actually be there 221 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: to listen, yeah yeah, which they weren't that, but we 222 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: didn't get the pizza, which was pretty awesome. Apparently there 223 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: was one girl though that was there and got to 224 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: kind of see that, which was a pretty cool moment. 225 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: I don't know. I I looked up the most Google 226 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: questions about you. Here you go. Number one is are 227 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: you and Shaye related? You can answer these, I'm not 228 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: gonna answer them for you, But are are Dan and 229 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: Shaye related? We're not. We're not related, not that I 230 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: know about. Okay, did you twenty three and me? And 231 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: make sure I haven't yet? You know, it's it's the 232 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: starting to starting to think about it now. Though. What 233 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: is make a lot of sense for me is when 234 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: I see you guys, I don't know what a wards 235 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: show it was, but you guys don't like each other 236 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: to the point of it's not just I'll compare it 237 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: to and I'm not married, you're married now, but a 238 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 1: marriage that's been through like ten years and and this 239 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: is not you guys, but they're together and they just 240 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: do it because they've agreed to a partnership. It's like, 241 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: you guys are that married couple that you look at 242 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: and go, wow, they still like each other after all 243 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: this time. It is man and it feels like that. 244 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: And I think it's because it started out with a 245 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: from a place of mutual respect. You know, it wasn't 246 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: just this, It wasn't so much a lot of you 247 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: know a lot of times it's this whimsical thing that 248 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: happens and you know, you don't even have time to 249 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: really get to know each other. You know a lot 250 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: of times in bands that it can happen quickly, and 251 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: you you didn't have the time where you were kind 252 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: of grinding it out with each other on the road 253 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: and doing you know, millions of shows together. Um and 254 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: Dan and I had kind of we had become kind 255 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: of who we were going to be when we had met. 256 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: We knew where we were trying to get to, and 257 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: we just really respected what each other, you know, we're doing. 258 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I mean it's it's kind of crazy 259 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: because Dan and I are really complete posits in most ways, 260 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: in most ways, and I think from that, you know, 261 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a puzzle piece. It's like he 262 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: picks up what I can't do. He's an unbelievable producer. 263 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: He makes me sound good. I can't do any of that. 264 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing in the studio. So 265 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of that thing of I trust him, you know, 266 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: with literally like my life and my well being, and 267 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: he trusts me with with that as well. And I 268 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: think it just kind of, you know, it's it's clol. 269 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: It's it's like being family, but it's really just a 270 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a really cool thing because I do, 271 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: I do still like and we are still best friends. 272 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of one of those things of 273 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: all the time we're always looking at each other being 274 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: like I can't believe that this is this is happening. 275 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: It's just crazy. The second one is who are she's parents? 276 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: Who are she's parents? Rick and Cindy Mooney? Are their names? 277 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: Natural Damn, Arkansas and everybody probably a lot of people 278 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: watching from Naturally. I think they just got internet, So 279 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: this is probably gonna be a pretty big deal. You 280 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: know you you laugh about Natural Damn Arkets all about 281 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: my town Mountain Pine, Arkansas. We just got a cell 282 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: phone towel were now nineteen months ago? Wow, Now where 283 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: where is that? As far as like where a Little 284 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: Rock is? Because that we're on the you know, the 285 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: western side of our Kansas. So if you go straight 286 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: dow because I know where you are, if you go 287 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: straight down, Mountain Pine is below Little Rock on the 288 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: same side of the state, about an hour the left 289 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: side of the state down Is that towards Elder Redo 290 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: or is that the other that's the other side. But 291 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: I went to Fable and I was went the razor 292 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: By game this past week, and I don't get many 293 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: weekends where I'm off, and so I went over and 294 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: I took Adam Hamburg, who's a dear friend of mine, 295 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: and I saw that and you're with Ronnie Brewer, Right, yeah, Yeah, 296 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: My points were they were asking about you. They were like, 297 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: have you seen Shay lately? And it's it's almost like 298 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: if someone they think we're all like related to hang 299 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: out that we're all like, what's up? What's up with? Like, 300 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen him, probably got a month, but 301 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: I think he's doing pretty good. I'll watch him on 302 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Instay with it. It's just funny how when we all 303 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: come from Arkansas and afterward I hung out with a 304 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: lot of listeners and a lot of people that listen 305 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: to the show are watching American Idol, and they were 306 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: I probably got asked about you four times. They think 307 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: all of Arkansas boys run together. We should probably have 308 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: a meeting, and we haven't had one, and at least 309 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: it's been a couple of chapter of Arkansas. Here's the one. 310 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: Does Shay get paid more than Dan? Yeah? That was 311 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: in the deal. I was like, look, if I'm gonna sing, 312 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna do this, you know, you might do 313 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: most of the work, but this is how it's gonna be. 314 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: I assume there's this that's you guys are even split 315 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: as far as I know. Maybe he maybe he does. 316 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: I don't know one more? Does Dan or Shay sing speechless? Well, 317 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: we both sing Dancing's harmony sing the lead. But you're ye, 318 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not that that sounded pretty amazing. I'll 319 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: be honest with you. Yeah, do you want to join? Yeah? Okay, Yeah, 320 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: that'd be cool. Can you imagine if I went out 321 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: and just we didn't say anything about it, just as 322 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: a joke. We didn't acknowledge it. We just walked and 323 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, we did see anything. I just walked out 324 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: and it was like, you're like, dannit Jay and it's 325 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: me and and we started peakless. And it would totally 326 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: depend on if, like if someone knew that it was 327 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: you or not, because if they did it and they 328 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: hadn't seen it before, they'll be like, I didn't even 329 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: I had no idea that it was three of them. 330 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Then no, no, you don't know. I don't come now. 331 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: I put on like a black and I never break character, 332 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: and I sing as great as I can, and just 333 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: we keep cameras in the crowd'll see if people are stunned. 334 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: We never acknowledge it. I'll tell you it's gonna be 335 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a pretty great social experiment that will happen, 336 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: and I can tell you no one would get angry 337 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: at that. Um. So, okay, one of my did you watch, um, Mike, 338 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: what's the show called? You watch the Mandalorian? Did? Okay? 339 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: You're a Star Wars guy, I am. Yeah. So I've 340 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: never seen Star Wars. I would like to because I've 341 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: heard in a lot of ways. Did you like the show? 342 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: And what someone like me who's never seen Star Wars 343 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: like the show? Yes? Yeah, I think so. Do I 344 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: need to know Star Wars? Not at all? I think 345 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: you can. I think the cool part about the shows 346 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: that there is you know, if you like, you know, 347 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: read the books or whatever. I wasn't that I didn't like. 348 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: I read like some Star Wars books like Back in 349 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: the Day. Um, but there's like the whole Mandalorian thing 350 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: is kind of you wouldn't really know about it. Even 351 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: if you were a Star Wars fan, you would probably 352 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: just think like, oh, that's like Bubba Fett, which I 353 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: guess you know Django and beaua Fett would they weren't 354 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: even actually Mandalorian. They just liked their armor. I guess. 355 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: So I don't know what you're saying right now. Yeah, 356 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: and see the quantum mechanics. It No, I don't really 357 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: know that, but you know, it really doesn't have anything 358 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: to do with the story of Star Wars that people 359 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: would know from their kids. It's just a great it's 360 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: a really new concept, really, even to a Star Wars fan. 361 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: How fast is you take in that show? Probably like 362 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: because they did it in I think they did every Thursday, 363 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: like they released. I know that you couldn't bene it, huh. 364 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: And I think I started I want to see, there's 365 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: eight episodes, and I think I started on six or 366 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: I started when they had six out, so I watched 367 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: all of them and then I had to wait for 368 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: the next two weeks. So I watched it. I think 369 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: I watched six episodes and like, like a couple of days, 370 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: did you go watch the last Star Wars movie and 371 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: your thoughts? I I liked it. It was it was 372 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: a lot they had to kind of button up the 373 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: whole deal, which was it was a lot to kind 374 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: of it seemed like the fan reviews were great, but 375 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: the critic reviews were really not. Well. It was kind 376 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: of you know, and I love Star Wars and I'm 377 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not the movie guy who's like, I don't 378 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: usually look at the critics reviews. If like the fan 379 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: views are pretty good, I will enjoy the movie, Like 380 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: I like a lot. If I go to a movie, 381 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: I usually have a pretty good time. Like I enjoyed 382 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: the whole experience of going to watch movies. Boys loved 383 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: movies as a kid, still love them. Yeah, I enjoyed 384 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: it as like a movie. It was very entertaining, but 385 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't like if you were to pick it apart, 386 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: there was like a lot of things that we're just like, oh, 387 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: that's so he's just been alive this whole time, you know, 388 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: that's not that's not like Senator pow Bettine was like, 389 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: he's like the you know, he's the you know, the 390 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: the dark Lord Seth guy. He's like the main bad 391 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: guy and he dies and like one of the first 392 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 1: movies whenever, like with Darth Vader, Darth Vader kills him 393 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: and then he's just like, now is this are these 394 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: are well? I guess kind of for you maybe, but 395 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: like someone hasn't seen the final movie or no, no, no, 396 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: not the final movie. This happens in like like old 397 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: like in the you know, seventies or whatever. Whenever the 398 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: first movies came out, he like he dies and then 399 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't really yeah, and then it's just kind of 400 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: he's just alive again. Yeah. Do you can you go 401 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: to the movies without people stopping you? Yeah? Yeah, I 402 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: mean it's it kind of depends what, like what theater 403 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: like where we are. If I go back home, like 404 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: and people would you know, they kind of know that 405 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm home, then it can be a little bit of 406 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: a like everybody knows that you know I'm there, but 407 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: people are super sweet, you know. Can you go to 408 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: the movie theater without yeah, Like I mean like usually like, well, 409 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: we'll get stopped a couple of times, especially for something 410 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: for some reason. If I'm like with Hannah, because people 411 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: kind of follow her too, that's more of like an indicator. 412 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: If Dan and I are together and people really like yeah. 413 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: But if it's just like if I'm just out somewhere, 414 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: people aren't, like because people aren't really expecting to see 415 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: anyone that they would know ever, so they're not like 416 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: looking around like analyzing. Like when in a second, I 417 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: went to a true Food kitchen today to have lunch, 418 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: and I was having a work talk with somebody from 419 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: my PR team. We're kind of lining up some stuff 420 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: and Sam Hunt walks in and comes in just just 421 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: sitting over there and grabs his food chill. He's Sam 422 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: the Monster, huge guy, big beard, so way bad him 423 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: ways back does the deal. He's there for like ten minutes. 424 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: Nobody says the word him Walkchu And I'm like, that's interesting. 425 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: Nobody uh b k from Florida. George Line walks right in, 426 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: walks up to a table. I say, what up to? 427 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: What dude could produce? Sets down? Nobody he had had, 428 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, boom um, and it was just like saying 429 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: and nobody kind of it was just cool to see 430 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: nobody mess with anybody, for sure, especially here. Yeah, and 431 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: then I saw Thomas Struts manager. But so there was 432 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: just a lot happening and nobody. I went to dinner 433 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago at yeah, so not a 434 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: super fancy place, cool spot close to work and reach 435 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: where this spoon came in and it's her and her family. 436 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: They said right in the middle. Nobody bother him. I 437 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: just think it's cool. I would have bothered her probably 438 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: well before my rules. But my rule is you shouldn't 439 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: bother someone if they're with their kids or they're eating, 440 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: if they have food in front of them. If they're not, 441 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: they know they're famous. Yeah, that's on them. They wanted 442 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: to get famous. You should go say hi if you 443 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: want to say hi, and never be ashamed to be 444 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: a fan of somebody. But if there's food or a 445 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: kid involved, that's a great rule. I think it should 446 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: be like a written rule if you're eating or if 447 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: you're with your kids, and even like it doesn't like 448 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: bother me insanely if someone comes, like because we'll go 449 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: out to eat, Like there's a Mexican restaurant that's by 450 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: my house. It's like our favorite spot. We always go there, 451 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: and usually if I'm with with them, like they're people 452 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: will wait till like we're done eating, And it's really 453 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: funny to watch people, which is like I can't, I can't, 454 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: like do you ever? Do you do you find yourself 455 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: like very hyper aware of people, Like I'm so I 456 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: can hardly like really when we go out and I'm 457 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: in a place where I just know there's something in 458 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: like the rim that shifts if if someone does recognize you, 459 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: if if we're going out with like a nicer restaurant, 460 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: we're like I have my hair all spiked. I usually 461 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: just like where I hat. But if I have like 462 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: my hair spiked up, it's like a better chance that 463 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: someone might be like, who's what That guy's hairs looks weird, 464 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: so he might be in Nashville, so it's kind of funny. 465 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: I'll be watching like around the rim, and I could 466 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: always tell when someone's like kind of just looking over 467 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: like I think that. I think that might be what 468 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: kind of got me was people would take pictures and 469 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. I wasn't aware for a while, and 470 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: it's like who cares about me? And you'd see them later. 471 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: But then people would post pictures and then tag me 472 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: of me like just looking awkward or that's that's the worst. 473 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: And I would be like, I would love to take 474 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: a picture say hi, so I don't look mostly for 475 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: my sakes, I don't look stupid on your Instagram, Like, 476 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: come say hi to me. I would love to take 477 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: a picture with you because I love I love being 478 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: out When people come up and they say something like 479 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: I love that people are like, like you said, this 480 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: is something that we got into. It's not like I'm 481 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: just hungry for the attention, but like it's I want 482 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: them to like if they're there and they're a fan, 483 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: like I'd love to meet them and feel appreciated and 484 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: feel appreciated because without people that music or come to shows, yeah, 485 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: and people that like they hide it like this happened. Actually, 486 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: reasonid that same Mexican restaurant I'm talking about, and it 487 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: kind of and I could. I knew like the table 488 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: that there was like two tables around us, and they 489 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: just they were super sweet, like I just love your music, 490 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: so thank you so much. We're there for probably like 491 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: twenty minutes and we're eating and I kind of noticed 492 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: this lady at the bar and she was just you 493 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: just it was all over her face. It was like 494 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: all she was thinking about was like when it is 495 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: a good time to like go over there. And I 496 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: wanted to, like, look, I didn't because you don't want 497 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: to assume and be like when you come over and 498 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: she's like, no, my my husband's here with someone else. 499 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm just spying on them. It's fine. I don't know 500 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: why that was the example. That wasn't what was happening 501 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: with this lady, but I watched her and all the 502 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: tables and our friends that were with us watch all 503 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: of this go down, because she gets up and she 504 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: walks all the way to the bathroom, and what feels 505 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: like a half a mile of her walking, she has 506 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: her phone like this like like people just like like 507 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: she's texting, but it's like right up against her chest, 508 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, we all see you, and I 509 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: kind of like point at the camera, you know, just 510 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: like we get it. And I thought, like for sure 511 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: she'd get in the bathroom and look at it and 512 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: be like, oh my goodness, I'm so embarrassed and come 513 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: over and be like I'm sorry at me to like 514 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: film you. She comes back and like everybody around the 515 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: table is like, you know, that woman was like filming 516 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 1: me right And I was like, I saw And then 517 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: she comes back and does it the same thing the 518 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: whole way back, films all the way back, never comes over, 519 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: never says anything. And that's that's the weirdest to me. 520 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: Let's make a statement here together, because I tried to 521 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: say it a lot. I would love to take a 522 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: picture with you, as long as I'm not eating it 523 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: with my kids. No one knows about my secret kids. Yeah, 524 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: like Ben John Kevin, I it's a compliment to me. 525 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: But you're right. Sometimes when someone's holding their phone and 526 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: they're holding it just a little too pointy, like it's 527 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: like we know, yeah, I know, I would love to 528 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: take a picture, like you don't text like this. Yeah, 529 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: Like there's a certain way to hold the phone and 530 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: that's what that's for sure, not it so natural? Damn? 531 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: Was how many people? Five eleven? Wow? Good for you. 532 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm seven D seven solid. You guys are well. I 533 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: honestly don't think like it says five hundred and eleven. 534 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: But that's been there since I've been a kid, and 535 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: I know for a fact that there's there can't be 536 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: unless there are people that are literally living underground. I've 537 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: never seen five people there, maybe like maybe two hundred. 538 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: I've never seen him in natural. Damn. What school did 539 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: you go to? I had to go so for a 540 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: while I went to a school and Fort Smith went 541 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah that was and it was River Valley at the time, 542 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: so I had to drive. It was kind of it 543 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: took like fifty minutes to get to school because there 544 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: was there was Cedarville High School and nothing against Cedarville, 545 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: but at the time it was just like it just 546 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: wasn't a great place to go to school, and it 547 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: was just kind of there's a lot of just stuff 548 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: going on there. My parents were just like, yeah, we 549 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: don't think that that's That'ssily where we're gonna send our kids. 550 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: But now it's kind a lot better. Now there's you know, 551 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: there's a lot of great schools kind of around there. 552 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: But I ended up graduating from Van Buren High School, 553 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: which was like probably twenty minutes from Natural Dam, so 554 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: it wasn't bad, but growing up that was a long 555 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: drive and at homeschool until I was like fifth fifth grade. 556 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: What kid were you in high school? What were you 557 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: known as? Shay is the Were you the singer? Were did? Yeah? Yeah? 558 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: I think yeah, a little break that people knew most 559 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: about you was what probably honestly more that I was 560 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: kind of like the funny guy, I would say, because 561 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: I didn't like sing a ton I did, Like I 562 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: was definitely kind of known for that, but I was 563 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: I was definitely the class clown. I would say, um, 564 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: but yeah I did sing at like events, like randomly, 565 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: I would do like we had chapel. It was a 566 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: Christian school, so I would sing in chapel like people 567 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: that you were so good because you didn't do it 568 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah. Sometimes. I remember when I came 569 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: to school because I started like halfway through a fifth 570 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: grade and so I remember I I like they asked 571 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: me to sing at chapel and was like my first 572 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: I had been. I had sang in church and like 573 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, done that whole thing, but that was like 574 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: my first like real world at school. It was like 575 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: halfway through the year and I came in saying at 576 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: chapel my moment I felt I felt really good. At 577 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: what age did you go, Oh, I'm not just good 578 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: for hearing a small town. I'm actually good enough to 579 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: go and try something outside of what I'm accustomed to. Yeah, man, 580 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: honestly I was. I was probably I was eight years 581 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: old when we first started coming to Nashville because we 582 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: would make these little trips because I would sing with 583 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 1: my sisters. I have two older sisters, eric As the oldest, 584 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: and then Gabby Um, and we would saying we would 585 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: travel around and like you know, just kind of for fun, 586 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: we go to churches and do the whole deal. Um. 587 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: And when I was about eight, we came to Nashville, 588 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: and at that point I kind of told my dad 589 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: like I'm I wanna this is like what I want 590 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: to do. That was just like I didn't know that 591 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: I was like people would. I think people a lot 592 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: of times I kind of assumed that I was like this, 593 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: I don't want to say, like prodigy, but like was 594 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: like always insanely good at singing, and just like that 595 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily the case. We just everyone in my family 596 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: did it. And I think just for the sheer fact 597 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: that I was young, people would be like, oh, he's 598 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: like he's really good. But we were in small you know, 599 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: this was small towns, so it's kind of like I 600 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: would take it as as a grand assault. I think 601 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: my parents would too, Like they knew I was, you know, 602 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: pretty good, but I don't know that it was this 603 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be your career kind of thing that kind 604 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: of came honestly later, and I did it. You know, 605 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: I was coming to Nashville since I was eight, but 606 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't I never knew. There wasn't a ton of 607 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: people that were just like this is undeniable, Like they 608 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: knew that I was good, but it wasn't until I 609 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: was a little bit older where we had a couple 610 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: of people be like, you should you guys could do this, 611 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: but it was never I don't know, you go to 612 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: college for a year, right, yeah, and then you go, 613 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I need to go to do music. 614 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: What was the point in going to school? Where it clicked? 615 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: Was like, it's gonna be tough, but I gotta get 616 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: out of school. And I actually it wasn't even a 617 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: real it wasn't actually a school. It was actually a 618 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: ministry school. So I went there. It was like a 619 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: nine month program and I had a full ride go 620 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: to like a music school. And I decided right before 621 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: because my sister Gabby had decided she was gonna go 622 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: up to Pittsburgh to go to this like nine month, 623 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: you know program, and I was just like, I kind 624 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: of wanna. I'm gonna go with you. I'm gonna do this. 625 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: And it was kind of that I wasn't quite sure 626 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: what I was gonna do with my life. I was 627 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: about to graduate, and I didn't want to go to 628 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: school for something that I already felt like I was. 629 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna like learn and if 630 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: I was going for like engineering or something like that, 631 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: which is probably what I would have done I just 632 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to school for like performance major, 633 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, and like learn how to sing. I just 634 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: felt like that wasn't really the vibe. And so yeah, 635 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: I kind of took that that nine months and lived 636 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Um, and then right after that I moved 637 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: back home, which is when kind of the whole tea 638 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: paying thing happened. Which is an interesting thing too, because 639 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: when you can really sing, you can also kind of 640 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: pick where you sing. Yeah. Even I give Garth as 641 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: an example, he was singing rock songs. Yeah, he was, 642 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, he was kind of finding his lace early. Um. 643 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: So how do you get discovered by because what was 644 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: it called, what was the paint was called nappy boy? 645 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: Nappy boy? How do you get hooked up with them? 646 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: How do they see you? What are the steps that 647 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: led you to go there? Because did you move to 648 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: Atlanta for a while? I did move to Atlanta, So 649 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: I was so I lived in Pittsburgh and my sister 650 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: was she had this Uh she was super good. She 651 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 1: a good dancer, like she was a choreographer and Tylla's 652 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: stuff and she was had met this guy named Mike 653 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: who was actually a backup dancer for Tea Pain, and 654 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: so we kind of all were hanging out there for 655 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: a little while and um, long story short, we get 656 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: back to Arkansas after you know, the school, after the 657 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: nine months, and we're there and I just randomly get 658 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 1: like a a text was like, hey, what are you doing. 659 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: I knew he had worked with Tea Pain and I 660 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: guess he had sent some YouTube video online to Tea Pain. 661 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: And I was and I was at Van Buren actually, 662 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: and I was in a movie I'll never forget this, 663 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: and I like he was like, hey, like he wants 664 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: to like, you know, FaceTime you or whatever, and I 665 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: was just like I was in this movie and I 666 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: didn't have any service, and I was like, I was like, 667 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: this is the craziest thing ever. So I go out 668 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: of the movie and my friend was like the manager 669 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: watching and was watching the movie. Did you think he 670 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: was like I thought he was like Arkansas might have 671 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: heard of this movie was called hot Rod. It was 672 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: like this little project I was working on. So you 673 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: leave the theater, Yeah, so I'll leave it. So I 674 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: walked outside and I didn't have any WiFi and the 675 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: service wasn't good enough, so I had to get on WiFi. 676 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: I think it was a FaceTime call. I can't remember 677 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: if that was even a thing then, but either way, 678 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: I didn't have any service. I had to like go 679 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: get on the WiFi. So my friend was the manager 680 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: there and like gave me the WiFi password and I'm 681 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: in like this back room at the movie theater like 682 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: facetiming or whatever, t pain and he was like, hey, 683 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: I want you to come to Memphis, like we're playing 684 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: a show there was him and Chris Brown. I want 685 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: you to come, you know, play with us and and 686 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: do this whole deal. So I was just like, yeah, 687 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: all right, let's just do this whole deal. Mean, I 688 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: didn't have no idea to this day, I don't know 689 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: what that meant. You know, those moments like you get 690 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: the call and you're just like, yeah, whatever it is, 691 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm down. And that got me into a lot of 692 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: trouble probably at some points in my life. Like whatever 693 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: that that is, I'm doing it. So do you go 694 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: to Memphis? I did. I went to Memphis and drive 695 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: by yourself. But because you don't know what's happening, Oh 696 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Whober actually was not a thing that I 697 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: guess with my sister Gabby, she she drove me up there, 698 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: so I drove up there with her. We went to 699 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: the show and met with him and basically go on 700 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: the bus afterwards, and I think it was like te 701 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: Pain and his wife and and Mike and all these people, 702 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: and I'm just like singing and just he was like, 703 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: I want, I wanna sign you, you know, And I 704 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: didn't know what that I just heard, you know, I'm 705 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna sign you. I didn't know what that entailed at 706 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: the time or what that even you know, looked like. 707 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, they ended up, you know, because I was 708 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: writing even when I was with him. When I end 709 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: up signing to him. I moved to Roswell, Georgia, which 710 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: is out there, you know, just a suburb of Atlanta, 711 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: and I started writing all kinds of stuff. I mean, 712 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: I had been writing like country, and I've been writing 713 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: pop and been writing like R and B like all 714 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. But I knew that I wanted 715 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: to do country. And that's what That's kind of how 716 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: he the song that he had even heard me covering, um, 717 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: I think, was a country song, and so he was like, 718 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, this is what I want you to do. 719 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: This is oh Blood And basically what I did for 720 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: those that year and a half that I lived in 721 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: Atlanta was just go into the studio every day until 722 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: like five in the morning and just like right, two 723 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: beats and and everything else. And it was just kind 724 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: of a I don't know, it's kind of one of 725 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: those just kind of honing my craft moments of like 726 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: I didn't really get anywhere, Like there wasn't we didn't 727 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: release any music or anything like that. Um, what was 728 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: his goal with you? I don't know, I'm not sure. Uh, 729 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: the the overall goal, you know that was kind of 730 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: like pitch to me was we want to sign you 731 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: to a major you know, we want to get you 732 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: to Nashville at some point. But so there was country 733 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: music in mind for you, even though it was te 734 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: pain yeah, and we all go, oh, hip hop R 735 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: and B yeah. And it was kind of one of 736 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: those things that I didn't even have like my sound. 737 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: I didn't really know what I was doing either. I 738 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: was just writing songs and I had all these you know, 739 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: songs that I was writing that wasn't necessarily I'm they 740 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: were like fine, but it just it had my identity 741 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: was not found yet, you know. I just didn't really 742 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: know what I was doing, So it's kind of somewhere 743 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: in there. Um it's hard to put unless I looked 744 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: at the timeline. It's hard to put all this stuff 745 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: into a timeline. Um. But I remember there was a 746 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: moment when I was there. I was just like, what, 747 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: we haven't put out any music. We're not doing anything. 748 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: I have no idea, there was not really The contract 749 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: I signed was a three sixty and I didn't know 750 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: what I was doing. I didn't have a lawyer at 751 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: the time, so I signed this ridiculous deal. Um. And 752 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: I think it was all good intentions on all parties. 753 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: But I ended up at some point being like I've 754 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: got to go to Nashville, like I just have to 755 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 1: get there. So I was getting I mean, I had 756 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: no money because I was getting paid, you know whatever 757 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: it was. I think I think I was getting paid 758 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: maybe like it was like fifteen hundred dollars for two 759 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: thousand or fifteen hundred dollars for like, you know, per 760 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: month to like live on and stuff. But I was 761 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: having to pay like five dollars for my you know, 762 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: my rent in Atlanta, and then I had to pay 763 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: five off the top to like my manager that was 764 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: you know this guy that had had you know, I 765 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: had met in Pittsburgh. He was now my my manager, 766 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: and uh so it was a whole thing. So I 767 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: had about after I was moving to Nashville. I was 768 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: left with about like four hundred dollars to like eat 769 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: like pale everything on after this and go out and expect, like, 770 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, try to meet people in Nashville, which four 771 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: dollars in a month is not a lot of not 772 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: a lot of spending cash. How did you get out 773 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: of the deal? Um? It ended up? You know when 774 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: I met Dan, uh it was a whole I mean 775 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: there was a lot of people that that kind of 776 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: helped me get that out of the deal. And you know, 777 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: whenever we had we had met, it became kind of 778 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: like a oh man, what's what's going to happen? Because 779 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: this is this is like a problem. I'm still in 780 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: this this deal. Yeah. Yeah, but it was, Yeah, that 781 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: that whole that was a pretty rough a little time 782 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 1: there for a little while because it was a lot 783 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: of there was a lot of feelings, you know, feelings 784 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: hurt on I think on all sides because it was 785 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: just this I don't know, I want to go I 786 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: don't want to go like two into detail about it, 787 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: but it was a rough time thinking in his life. 788 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: He was he was going through a lot, and it 789 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: was just kind of I was just stuck. There was 790 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: nobody to like talk to. He had he had gone 791 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: away to kind of deal with some personal stuff, and yeah, 792 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: it was just kind of all right, well, I'm in 793 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: this deal and we got to try to figure out 794 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: whenever we were talking to these labels, it was like 795 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: it kind of became an issue because it rolled really fast. 796 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: When Dan and I met and we had kind of 797 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: met with you know, Jason Owen and Scooter and things 798 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: were kind of rolling. It was just like, well, this 799 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: is this is a problem. And I was like I 800 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: was freaking out because I'm like, this is a huge opportunity. 801 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: And we finally got something to something yeah that you 802 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 1: can't get out of. Yeah, and it was a full 803 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: three sixty deal. You know. It was like everything you're 804 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: doing and have not just music, but if you put 805 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: out a shirt, if you touring, everything, and it was Yeah, 806 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: it was a rough time, but we ended up you 807 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: know really, you know, Scooter and Jason had a huge 808 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: part of of kind of getting me out of that 809 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: deal and but yeah, man, it was it was a 810 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: tough you know start, you know, because it was just 811 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: even on that first record, like there was a lot 812 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: being being taken out, you know, and it was just 813 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: kind of like thankfully I didn't have, you know, a 814 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: family at that time or no, you know, it's not 815 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: like I was. I wasn't completely broke. Whenever we had 816 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, Dan and I had met and and finally signed. 817 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: You know, we had like a lot more money than 818 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: I had enough to begin with. I was it was 819 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: enough to live on. But they did a great job 820 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: of kind of helping me get out of that, and 821 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: you know, Warner Brothers and when all those guys, it was, yeah, 822 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: everybody's really good. So so the legend of the Fort, 823 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: which in different places we've talked about, but you guys 824 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: met in the living room fort at a house which 825 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: you've been back by. I've even seen you guys posted before. 826 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: Um Dan was living in the house and you went 827 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: over to the house. I did, so I was living 828 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: on I was living with my buddy actually at the 829 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: time UM I had I was, I was, I think 830 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: I was maybe I don't even remember how if I 831 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: even was paying him but I was basically sleeping on 832 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: his couch for like a little while. His name was 833 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: Brandon Metcalf, great guy, and he had a studio and 834 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: I was like working a lot with him when I 835 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: had moved to Nashville and kind of had my place 836 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: and um, there was a guy named Andrew Um that 837 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: just one night we had been writing a lot and 838 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: he told me he was like, man, I'm going over 839 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: to these guys house. They had a band at the time. 840 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: He's like, they're having a house party. Uh, you know, 841 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: you want to come with me? And I was just like, yeah, sure, 842 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: let's do it. And at that time, it was just 843 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 1: kind of like any time you could go somewhere without 844 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: spending any money and you knew that there was like 845 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: we knew that there was a keg and I was 846 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: like a little bit of noblishment, that's all that's always changed. 847 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: It was like, do you think I like pizza or someone? Like? 848 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: I haven't even like a couple of days, but it 849 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we showed up at this house, and 850 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: little did I know that that night was going to 851 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: completely change my life. You guys start talking that night. 852 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: When was it that you said, Okay, we're actually going 853 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: to try something together, which means putting everything else aside. 854 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: There's a difference than going, hey, we should do something 855 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: together and going we're doing something together. I would even 856 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: say it's comparable to in that part of a relationship 857 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: where you're just dating and you go, we're only dating 858 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: each other now, Yeah, so that means nothing else can exist, 859 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: Yeah except us. What was that point where you guys 860 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: finally said we're just dating each other? Well, it was 861 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: not until just a couple of weeks ago. We uh, 862 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: it kind of happened. It happened really naturally where Dan 863 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: I started writing. Really, I think it was either that 864 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: next day or like the day after that. We had met. 865 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: We were jam until probably like four in the morning 866 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: or something like that, and I think we decided to write. 867 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: So we get up the next day and we go 868 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: we met it like a Starbucks or something, and then 869 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: we ended up going to Uh, this this guy that 870 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: I was Jesse Fraser. I'm sure this year Mandy's been here. 871 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: Love him. One of the greatest guys. When I had 872 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: forst quick side side notes, this all makes sense. Jesse. 873 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: When I had first moved to town, I had a 874 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: friend and I asked him. I was like, who is 875 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: doing like beats? Because I have been writing to a 876 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: lot of beats. I've been writing like country songs two beats, 877 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: which is now like a common thing, but it was 878 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: just kind of becoming a thing then. And I was like, 879 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: who is a great track guy in in Nashville? And 880 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: the first name that he's at my friend was nash 881 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: Over Street, which is paulver Street songwriter. Uh, and he 882 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: was like Jesse Fraser. So I started writing with Jesse 883 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: Um a lot. And then whenever Dan and I had met, 884 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: I was like, let's go right with with you know, 885 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: with Jesse Fraser or at at his place. So we 886 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: ended up writing our first writing session. I think we 887 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: wrote two songs that that day and one of them 888 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: got put on hold that night. But for Rascal Flats, 889 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: so what, you wrote a song that day? Yeah, they 890 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: sent it out maybe too Flats because they thought it's this. 891 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: It was sensible, both of them. That night he got 892 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: put on hold. I think it was that night. Yeah, 893 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: Like when we got home they were like, this is 894 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: on hold for Flats and for us were like, things 895 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: things are heating up, things are really really good at 896 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: which if you know you know what a hold is 897 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: when they never cut the song or anything like that. 898 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: But for us, it was just like it was legitimately 899 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: like Rascal Flats heard our song. That was a huge 900 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: and as small as that you know, might seem now, 901 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: you know, in our minds, it still it was such 902 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: a big deal because it was you know, you have 903 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: these big dreams when you're coming to town, and it 904 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: was kind of that first taste of like whoa this 905 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: is like somebody who's who has done it, who is 906 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: a successful artist, has they liked our song and put 907 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: on hold. So that was a huge deal for us 908 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: and that was kind of the fuel to be like 909 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 1: we should let's let's you know, keep doing this because 910 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: we liked you know, what songs are writing. Would you 911 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: compare that early part of you and Dan and I 912 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,479 Speaker 1: don't mean this spacetiously at all, but when you meet 913 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: a girl, like when you and Hannah meet and you're like, 914 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is it, Like it's similar to 915 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: that feeling, which name as it was, because if you're 916 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: rand of four in the morning, that's what you do 917 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: when you talk to her all to four in the morning. Yeah, 918 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think for either of us. We 919 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: just were kind of it wasn't it was different than 920 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: when I met my wife, because when I met Hannah, 921 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: I literally told my friend Benji Davis is a writer 922 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: in town. He I told him, like right then. It 923 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: was in Arkansas. It's like our first day. It was 924 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: at George's Majestic Lounge, and I like walked her out 925 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: to a car and I got back on the bus 926 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm gonna marry that girl, literally 927 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: said like that night. But Dan, it was like we 928 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: were having fun writing these songs. We didn't necessarily like 929 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: we thought they were good, but we didn't necessarily be 930 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: like we're gonna make this is We're not gonna or 931 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: marry each other. But not neither one of those were 932 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: on my mind. And I think it just kind of 933 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: happened naturally to where like we thought the songs were good, 934 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: but as you do, you know when it's when it's 935 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: your work. We thought it was good, and it we knew. 936 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: I think the most exciting thing for us was there 937 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: was an aha moment, but it wasn't necessary like oh, 938 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna be a duo. It was like, this is 939 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: the kind of music that I've been trying to write 940 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: this is all like everything has kind of led to this, 941 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: you know. It was like the stuff that I had 942 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: been wanting to write, but it just couldn't. I hadn't 943 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: quite found the sound yet. So are you saying that 944 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: when you two first started it was like we found 945 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: partners in creating more so than we could go be 946 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: a duo. It was exactly that. It was like, oh man, 947 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: this is like this is the kind of stuff. It 948 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: was like better than any of the stuff that I 949 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: had been writing in town. And I think for both 950 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: of us it was just kind of like, well, this 951 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: is like we we got something special here. So then 952 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: how long until you decide you're going to actually pursue 953 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: the artist thing together? Yeah, so we started to all 954 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,439 Speaker 1: these songs we've been writing, because we we did start 955 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: to write a lot together. And so the more that 956 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: we wrote, we would just start doing like these writers 957 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: rounds and like playing these songs for our friends, and 958 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: like our friends and everybody were getting hype on these 959 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: songs like this is the greatest song, like we were 960 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 1: doing when we were in five oh seven. Morton Avenue 961 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: was the place. I can say it because we've said 962 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: it a million times. I'm sure that the owner of 963 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: that house hates us for probably talking about all the time. UM, 964 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: but it was like I think we would go to that. 965 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: We went to the house one time I specifically remember, 966 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: and I think it was Pete Tracy, who now does 967 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: all of our video stuff. It was his birthday and 968 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: we remember we shot like a fake music video for 969 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: one of the songs because we love it was so 970 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: good and it was just like it was just ridiculousness. 971 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: We were having so much fun and it was just like, man, 972 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: this this stuff is really cool. So we started to 973 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: play all the all the music out like rounds and stuff, 974 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: and then Dan and I we had eventually like there 975 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: was actually an opportunity that we had to go down 976 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: Um and I had booked a show. It was just 977 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: like Shae Mooney and we were opening up. We did 978 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: two shows together without actually being like a band at all. 979 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: It was just like he was there with me and 980 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: we were playing all the songs we had written. And 981 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: one was at Georgia's opening for Chris Allen and I 982 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: thought that we I thought I made it. Then I 983 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: was like this is you know, things are really starting 984 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: to take off. And then another one we played was 985 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: that in Conway um at at u c A. There 986 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: was this kid who booked me and I thought it 987 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: was gonna be like the biggest show ever. And I 988 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: think this. It was in there like little performing arts 989 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,479 Speaker 1: theater which probably holds like, I don't know, maybe people, 990 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: and there was probably like fifteen people in there. And uh, 991 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,959 Speaker 1: right after that, we went down to Austin, Texas because 992 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: my lawyer had set up this like showcase basically for us, 993 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: and we went down. We put together a band, the 994 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: whole deal. Dan I drive down on my truck and 995 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: we ended up playing the show and it was I'm 996 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: not kidding. There was There was honestly probably like four 997 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: people in the room and one was my lawyer, one 998 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: was like a bartender girl in the back, and then 999 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: our friend Paul di Giovanni, which ended up writing, uh 1000 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: how not to for us used to be in the 1001 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: band Boys like Girls. He was there, and then Dan's 1002 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: lawyer and there was like no other people there. We 1003 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: were hearsed for like four days and we were we 1004 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be like our big break and uh, yeah, 1005 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't our big break, but at that time it 1006 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 1: was I think on the way back from that trip, 1007 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: we kind of made the decision of, like we've been 1008 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: doing these shows together, like we should we should kind 1009 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: of we should do a duo. And I think it's 1010 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: hard to kind of put all this in my mind 1011 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: to like line it up, but kind of when we 1012 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 1: were writing all these songs, um, there was a guy 1013 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: who had who knew he worked for Scooter Run at 1014 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: the time. His name was Nano and he knew Scooter 1015 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: and he had kind of been talking to to Skeeter, 1016 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: I guess about us, and uh yeah, during that time, 1017 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: Scooter ends up We're at a writing session and uh 1018 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: we had kind of decided like, all right, we're gonna 1019 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: do this this duo thing. And uh, once we kind 1020 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: of decided that was when Scooter had heard about us, 1021 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: and we were in a writing session at a guy 1022 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,479 Speaker 1: named Danny Orton's house and there was he faced times 1023 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: us and basically says like I wanna work with you, 1024 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: and uh Ed Sharon was was there. Is really funny 1025 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: because he was like, well, you guys, play that song 1026 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: that I like. It was a song called stop Dropping 1027 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: Role that was actually on our first record. We had 1028 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: like just written it, and he was like, play that song, 1029 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: so we we played it and at the end he 1030 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: was like, my friend wants to hear the song because 1031 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: he really loves it because we had sent him maybe 1032 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: like a demo or something and ed shearing like pops 1033 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: and he say, hey, guys, how are you? This is 1034 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: like the worst ed sheering impression. Hey guys, how are you? 1035 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: And he yeah, we like saying stop dropping roll acoustic 1036 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: like overface time to him, And that was kind of 1037 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: the start of it. Did you go and play for 1038 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: different labels? Yeah, yeah, I think that at the beginning 1039 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: we had at first we had pitched, you know, we 1040 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: we wanted to you know, be writers. Was like the 1041 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: whole point we wanted to you know, be signing. We 1042 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: were working with you know, some some guys and Rohan 1043 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: who now works with us at Warner who's our and 1044 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: our guy. Um, he was kind of working, you know, 1045 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: we were we were trying to you know, get all 1046 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: these these meetings with publishers and things, and it was 1047 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 1: really funny. At the very beginning we were meeting with 1048 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: like everybody because at this point we had we still 1049 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: had zero money like at all coming in and Dan 1050 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: and I used to like we would go out to 1051 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: like a publishing meeting, and we would always like we 1052 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: would make them take us to dinner, like we'd always 1053 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: take the dinner meetings because it was like that was 1054 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: free food and drink for the night. It was fantastic. 1055 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,479 Speaker 1: So I think we took out a couple of people, 1056 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: which which now is funny because there's a couple of 1057 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: our now friends in town of like, man, I was 1058 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: a new publisher and you guys maybe take I spent 1059 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,959 Speaker 1: like Tim Grant on you guys and you didn't sign 1060 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: with us, And I was like, sorry, dude, But yeah, 1061 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: we were meeting with you know, publishers at first, and 1062 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: then kind of when we decided to come together, we 1063 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: met with several labels in town and um bidding war 1064 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: for you a little yeah, a little bit. There was 1065 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 1: like at that time, we had we had all these songs, 1066 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, that we had written. We had, you know, 1067 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: a couple of hundred songs that we had, and we 1068 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: were doing all these these demos and everything, and we 1069 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: had I think that the demo that we were bringing 1070 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: out around to people, it was like twenty two songs 1071 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: that we had had on this thing, and they were 1072 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: and they would they would just go in there and 1073 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: be like, all right, you know, just pick a song 1074 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: and play it. And uh yeah, there was there was 1075 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: kind of at the end, there was sort of, you know, 1076 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: this little bit of a bidding war. But we had 1077 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: kind of we met with with Warner Brothers and we 1078 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: had met s BO and Um. I think it was 1079 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: like ten thirty in the morning, and we went in 1080 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: and we played with them, and they just they were 1081 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: so passionate about it from the very beginning. And Spo 1082 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: if you if you know Spo at all, he's very 1083 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 1: passionate about music, loves music, And it was like ten 1084 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning and he was like, you guys 1085 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: aren't leaving this room until you signed with us, and 1086 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: so we were like, well this guy was pretty fashionate. 1087 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, that was it was. It was kind 1088 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: of crazy and it's hard to even like remember all 1089 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: that because it all happened so quickly after that. You know, 1090 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: people see it as like, oh, this happened like overnight 1091 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: if you guys just became an overnight success. But it 1092 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: was really this accumulation of of me doing my thing 1093 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: and Dan touring since he was like thirteen years old, 1094 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: and it was kind of that moment where it all 1095 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: kind of came to a head and it was just like, 1096 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't know it was I think when we signed 1097 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: it was it was it was two thirteen when we 1098 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: put out like our our first single, like that summer 1099 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: and we were going on like radio tour and it 1100 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 1: was just like it all it was crazy. It was 1101 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 1: just a crazy time, and it's it seems like yesterday 1102 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: and now that I look back, that was now here 1103 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: we are. I'm gonna come back to nineteen you and 1104 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: me in one second. But something you said when we 1105 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: were talking about you meeting Hannah going I want to 1106 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: marry her, is that you walk back to your bus. Yeah. 1107 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: So were you guys touring through Arkansas when you guys 1108 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: were on your first date? Yeah? Yeah, so we had 1109 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: I had known about her, like we had a bunch 1110 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: of mutual friends. She was Miss Arkansas. Yeah. So if 1111 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: you go through Franklin, Arkansas, still a pretty big billboard, 1112 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: it's a pretty big deal. So she's she's a lot 1113 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: coreer than me, definitely a lot better looking. Uh. But yeah, 1114 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,839 Speaker 1: we were on tour. We were I want to say 1115 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: it was our first time planning. George's like legitimately like 1116 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: as a headliner and that was like our our one 1117 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,720 Speaker 1: of our first times playing there, and I was pretty 1118 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: excited about it because we had like, you know, that 1119 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: was the hometown show, and it was, Yeah, we have 1120 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: been talking a little bit and I basically begged her. Yeah, 1121 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: I think it was like Facebook or Twitter or something. 1122 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I had invited her to the 1123 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: to the show, and I know in her mind now 1124 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: that I've like talked to her, she was like, this 1125 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: is not gonna happen because she was like unimpressed. She's like, 1126 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not dating a singer, you know. 1127 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: And I was just like I was doing everything I 1128 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: could that night. Whenever I was like I knew kind 1129 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: of like I was looking for the whole time. So 1130 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: you were like looking at her section too, I was 1131 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: looking at her section, Yeah, and I was, I mean 1132 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: I was looking. I was smoldering. You know now that 1133 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: I know how dumb I look doing that. I wish 1134 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: I would have done that, but still worked out. But yeah, 1135 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy. I was looking for the 1136 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: whole time, being like all right, I know she's here, 1137 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 1: and if she wasn't there, I would have been devastated. Well, 1138 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 1: and if she wasn't there, that section that would had 1139 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: a great night. Got a lot of you. Yeah section, 1140 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: there was like like a couple of people in that section. 1141 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: They were like feeling it like he wants he wants me, 1142 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: he wants me. I'm gonna play nineteen you and me. 1143 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: Here's a little bit of this watching. That's the first one, right, 1144 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: it's the first one. Now you know you said a 1145 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: second ago too, And I think a lot of people 1146 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 1: look at you guys to go, wow, what overnight success 1147 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: everything of Roses song, which did wonderfully for you guys, 1148 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: only hit number nine. Yeah, it didn't even hit that. 1149 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: It went to eleven. Well, my notes has peaked at nine, 1150 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: so one of the charts, I think it. I don't 1151 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: think that I ever picked. I think it was eleven, 1152 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: like on both charts. And did you feel like when 1153 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: they happened though that that I mean that was huge? Right? Yeah? Yeah, 1154 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean it was kind of that we were stuck. 1155 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: I mean I remember when Nada told us that, you know, 1156 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: our song was going to be on the radio. We 1157 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 1: about I literally blew out the speakers in my jeep 1158 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: like listening to that. Whenever we found that out. It 1159 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: was like the biggest deal to have a song on 1160 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: the radio and to be like on a radio tour 1161 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: was all like, I can't believe this. It was insane. 1162 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: It felt like hitting the lottery, which really, you know, 1163 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: to do what we do is, you know, then you 1164 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: come off with the next next song here and show 1165 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: you off comes out and doesn't do as well like 1166 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: my note heres as peaked at nineteen. Yeah, it didn't 1167 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: do good now And my point in saying this is 1168 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: we haven't played that song in years yet, so you 1169 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: don't play it any No, no, no, no, I hope 1170 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: that's not any But when a song doesn't do as 1171 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: well as your first one, are you starting to like 1172 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: hang your head a little bit? You know? I think 1173 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 1: it was all kind of we were just so stoked 1174 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: to be in it all. I don't think we thought 1175 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,360 Speaker 1: about it too much, um, because it's kind of it 1176 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: would have been worse, Honestly, it would have been worse. 1177 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: I think if nineteen and me would have would have 1178 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: been at number one, and then we followed it up 1179 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 1: with a nineteen. Since it was kind of this like 1180 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 1: it still felt like, all right, we still have like 1181 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,879 Speaker 1: our chance to like have the song, and I don't 1182 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: think that any of us like it was tempo, but 1183 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: like looking back, neither of one of us were like 1184 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: stoked on that song. We were about nineteen and me 1185 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: and it's still it's still one of our biggest songs 1186 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: because you know, at that time and it's so it 1187 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 1: was like platinum. It was like a big you know, 1188 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: it's sold a bonch. It did really well for us, 1189 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: but we had put it out to radio immediately we 1190 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: went on radio tour, so by the time we got 1191 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: to the West coast, the East coast have been playing 1192 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 1: it like they had played like fifred times, so like 1193 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: we didn't feel we knew it went number one and 1194 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: almost like every market, but didn't just not all at 1195 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: the same time. So we were like feeling good about that. 1196 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 1: But when you off kind of you know, didn't do 1197 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: its thing. We we kind of it was kind of 1198 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: a you know, like, man, I wish that would have 1199 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: done better, But I don't think that any of us 1200 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: was like super passionate about the song to begin with, 1201 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: so it didn't sting as much. But the third one 1202 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: that was kind of the pinnacle of not the pinnacle, 1203 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: but really the start of it that would have been 1204 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: if that one didn't go number one. That's when you 1205 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: start to be like, oh, this is my connection to 1206 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: show you off is that I remember having you guys 1207 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: up in the studio and because you guys would come 1208 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 1: in like three times so far, and mostly it was 1209 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,359 Speaker 1: because we knew each other more than anything. You guys 1210 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: are really good, But it wasn't because you had a 1211 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 1: bunch of number ones when you were fun on the air, 1212 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 1: um two year, really good on the year, and we 1213 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 1: had a personal relationships. And I was like, you guys 1214 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: are coming in and we did a bit together where 1215 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,360 Speaker 1: you guys came in and saying boys to men's songs, 1216 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: and it goes up on YouTube, and this is how 1217 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: you guys have kind of affected my life from a 1218 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: side part. We put it together, put it up on YouTube. 1219 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: Scooter or your managers watching you guys on YouTube sees 1220 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: me interviewing you guys, sees that is doing our thing 1221 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: where it's like I'm not great at being on the radio, 1222 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: but I'm great at doing a good radio show. And 1223 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: he's like, dude, we should do TV work together. So 1224 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: him and I get to know each other and start 1225 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 1: working on TV projects together. Which has in turn later 1226 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,720 Speaker 1: by later I've gotten working a lot of projects, just working. 1227 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: But because your relationship with him and him watching you 1228 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: and seeing me and so that were fully responsible for 1229 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 1: your career. Wasn't you bringing the check? Yes? This is 1230 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: this the part they said you had some special Is 1231 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: this what it is? But that's song nothing like You 1232 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: as the one where I'm or not nothing like you, 1233 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: but show you off as a one where I was like, 1234 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: that was a big part of my career. That's so 1235 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: cool because he had told you, had said that before, 1236 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 1: but that's that's pretty crazy. Once I was with I 1237 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: was with Scooter in a meeting and we facetimes you 1238 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: guys and you guys were in a car somewhere together. 1239 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 1: I was with that cheering yeah, no I was. I 1240 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I totally remember that nothinglike You goes 1241 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: number one. Yeah, and so this is a big one. 1242 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: But I tell you where it really started to sing 1243 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,800 Speaker 1: like you guys were one next to me was the 1244 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: build up to from the ground Up, because I started 1245 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 1: to hear people go, oh, this next song from the 1246 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: ground up is next level. Yeah, because you had a 1247 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 1: number one and number ones are hard to get and 1248 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: good for you and great, but and now you're on 1249 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 1: the path took us forty seven weeks. If you feel 1250 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,439 Speaker 1: like from the ground Up was like the first real 1251 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: respect you got from the community of art, Yes, it was. 1252 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,439 Speaker 1: It was because nothing like you was that song where 1253 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: like it was, it was a hit, but it was 1254 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: just kind of that it wasn't the song that it 1255 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: was just like oh, Dan and Shay like this is 1256 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 1: this is gonna be it Like obviously that was. It 1257 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: was a hit, but there's a there's a big difference 1258 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: between like a number one song and something that truly 1259 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: like really impacts your career, and and it did for 1260 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: us at the time. You know, we would go out, 1261 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: we were also headlining like these small shows, and you 1262 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 1: could tell when we played that song people would freak 1263 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: out because it was a hit. And I think it 1264 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: was more because they were like yeah for us, and 1265 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily you know, out of that people weren't you know, 1266 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't there wasn't a lot of respect factor there. 1267 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: Like you said, like from the ground Up was the 1268 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: first where people even in town was like, Okay, I 1269 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: think these guys might be here to stay. That's when 1270 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: I felt it was getting legitimate for you guys as 1271 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: not just singers but artists. Yeah, and there is a difference. 1272 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it was like a three sing again, well 1273 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: he's worth three. It was like three or six degree, 1274 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: like everything they're doing is right on. This is it? Yeah, 1275 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 1: And I think it's that point where were it was 1276 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: the first time we were really really excited of like 1277 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 1: we we kind of started to hear even from like 1278 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,399 Speaker 1: the songwriting community of like like I wish I would 1279 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,479 Speaker 1: have written that song. It was kind of that moment, 1280 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 1: like I don't think there was very many people we 1281 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: did with like nineteen and me. There were some people 1282 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 1: would be like, that's you know, that's my favorite song. 1283 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: Nothing like you like our first hit and show you off. 1284 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: People weren't being like I wish that I would have 1285 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 1: written that song. There's been times like I wish I 1286 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: maybe you didn't write that song. You know. It's like 1287 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 1: and I'm thankful for every you know, ounce of everything 1288 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 1: we've ever gotten to do. But that was kind of 1289 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: the first song and it was very personal to us too, 1290 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, we had written that about our grandparents and 1291 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: it was it was kind of that moment we're just like, man, 1292 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 1: this is this is crazy. You know, that's when things 1293 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,399 Speaker 1: started really to happen for us. How not two hits 1294 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: Adam Hambrick earlier, one of the writers of the song. 1295 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: I would play it because Adam had to come out 1296 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 1: and fill in when I would do early raging idiot stuff, 1297 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: And so I had to learn this song and try 1298 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: to do his background because he would sing it because 1299 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, if you write a song, you get to 1300 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: sing it. And he's fantastic too. Yeah, this song goes 1301 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: number one. Now most of these are number one. I'm 1302 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: gonna bring up maybe a store spot for a second 1303 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: because road tripping. It's a little heart road trip and 1304 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: hit number thirty six. So one, did you want to 1305 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: put the song out? Two? Did you jump off it earlier? 1306 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: Did it just fizzle out? We we we pulled it. 1307 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 1: We did pull that song because it was you know, 1308 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't that I like hated that song, like I 1309 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: don't like to play it, like we don't play it live. 1310 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: It was just kind of one of those moments where 1311 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 1: it was it was a tempo is something that we 1312 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: felt like we kind of needed and our fans loved it. 1313 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: It was like and live it like did really well 1314 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: and it was kind of that moment where it was 1315 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,800 Speaker 1: the best move I think we could have made in 1316 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: our career. Even still looking back, that was the best 1317 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: move at that time was to pull that song because 1318 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,439 Speaker 1: that that's set up, you know, what was the next 1319 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,840 Speaker 1: chapter of your freaking career when it was like and 1320 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,720 Speaker 1: you went from being a strong artist to know kaboom 1321 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: time went te Keela hit to change the whole world. 1322 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: In my mind, your whole world changed. Every don't know 1323 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: what happened in your world. Everything changed. But when this 1324 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 1: song ends, and I remember the lead up to it, 1325 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: and I remember talking to Nicole before it came out 1326 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: and the old galley and this song just shook up everything. Yeah, 1327 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: it was that moment where I remember whenever roach like 1328 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: when we were picking the single that wasn't necessarily like 1329 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: my my choice. We we brought in, you know a 1330 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: bunch of people to be like, you know, what what 1331 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 1: should be the next single? And you know that was 1332 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: it was back and forth between a couple of songs. 1333 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 1: You know, we had you know already ready on our 1334 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: last record, on our not on our last record, but 1335 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: the the second album. Uh, And there was a couple 1336 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 1: of other like contenders for singles, And the problem was was, 1337 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: you know, our fans. We had done this, you know, 1338 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,399 Speaker 1: such a grassroots thing that our fans were like buying 1339 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 1: the album and they were listening to every song. So 1340 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 1: it was kind of it was a little bit tough 1341 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 1: to to pick a single because they had already really 1342 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, kind of taken in that record, and we're 1343 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, they loved the record, but 1344 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: they had kind of heard all these songs, and I 1345 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: don't think that there was any single that we could 1346 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: have put out that would have kind of taken us 1347 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: to the point where you know, Tequila did. And I 1348 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: don't think that if we would have put Tequila out 1349 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: in a different time that it that it would have 1350 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: worked in the way that it did. I mean, it 1351 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: still would have been a hit, but the way that 1352 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: all happened, Like looking back, but being like, all right, 1353 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: we pulled road Trip and and now we're gonna this 1354 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: is a reset, and we're gonna we're gonna do this. 1355 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 1: It was the first of a new whole project. It 1356 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 1: was Yeah, it was the first of a whole new project. 1357 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,320 Speaker 1: And I remember like we had had these you know, 1358 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 1: we'd had these songs and we were really excited about them, 1359 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: and we had had I think like a few like 1360 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 1: single UH that were contenders for like the first thing 1361 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 1: that we put out there. And I remember Dan and 1362 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: I were in London and we had to talk um 1363 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 1: and I remember like before we cut to Quila, I 1364 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 1: was such a fan of the song because I did. 1365 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't a writer on that. It was Dan and 1366 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 1: UH and Jordan Reynolds and UH and and Nicole Galleon. 1367 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: And I remember hearing that song and I was just 1368 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: like that, I want to sing that. I think I can. 1369 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: I think that that'll sound good with us doing that, 1370 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: And there was it was just that moment where like 1371 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: we were all in and I remember talking with a 1372 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,479 Speaker 1: label and Dan and I were like in this little 1373 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: room we were playing in London, I think, and we 1374 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: were on tour over there, and we had this whole 1375 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: conversation of like, we can't there's a lot of people 1376 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 1: in the label, like we can't put out a ballad first, 1377 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: We just can't do this. And I remember we were 1378 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: just having this whole conversation. I was just like, we're 1379 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: we're putting this song out. This has to be our 1380 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: first one. Dan and I were so like Adam about it, like, look, 1381 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: this is we're taking the reins. This is it. And 1382 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: I just remember like making that decision and we put 1383 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: out the song and it was just you know, the 1384 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: lead up to that, we tried to you know, we 1385 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: didn't know what it was. That was a kind of 1386 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: a scary time, but at the same time we were 1387 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 1: very excited because I feel like, out of anything we 1388 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: had done, there's like the songs that we had done, 1389 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: like I was very proud of, like from the ground up, 1390 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: and even like nineteen you and Me there and how 1391 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 1: Not Too. Those were the first times whenever I felt 1392 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: like I could play something for like my friends and 1393 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: then be like that's sick. You know, I love that. 1394 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: But Tequila was like the moment where everyone was like, 1395 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, like that is that's crazy? Like this 1396 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: is it felt cool? Like it that song a love 1397 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 1: We put that out. It made us like the cool 1398 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: thing to go see in town. When that song hit, 1399 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 1: it changed everything pretty much like overnight. I mean, it 1400 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,919 Speaker 1: was just insane. I still think that it's the song 1401 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: that I've seen screwed over more for rewards than any 1402 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 1: other song on my history here. And I say that 1403 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 1: not joking. And I know you're you're gonna be like, oh, 1404 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: wall shucks. But I do think that I and I 1405 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 1: would even you know, talking with Dan or Nicole or 1406 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: people that have I would be like, I can't believe it. 1407 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one time, I was presenting the CMA 1408 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 1: for Duover the Year and I was just and I 1409 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 1: love on TJ Brothers Osborne. I have a close relationship 1410 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: with them, but in my mind, I was like, this 1411 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: is so damaged. This they there's not been to do. 1412 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Others had a bigger year that you had. Been speechless Tequila, 1413 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: you've been touring. I was like, I'm going to read 1414 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: their name and then they're gonna pick me up and 1415 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be all We're gonna have like the greatest 1416 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 1: moment and um and and it wasn't. And I opened 1417 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,640 Speaker 1: up the card on it was on ABC, and I 1418 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: said in the winner for do other Year and I 1419 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 1: saw Brothers Osbourne. I called him up and I thought 1420 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 1: what they did even then, I think they were shocked 1421 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 1: because they give you guys a shout out of there, 1422 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 1: which felt like I didn't we didn't know what to do, 1423 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: like you good, who wants to be down here? It's everyone. Man, 1424 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't smile any bigger speaks to 1425 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 1: their character to do that. Um, but I know that 1426 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: it has it has to And I'll speak from personal. 1427 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: And you can say whatever you want at times when 1428 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 1: you're having great success but no one is giving you 1429 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: the cred from where you're living. It sucks and that 1430 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: and and you can say but I've had to happen 1431 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: to me too, it sucks. Hurts a little bit. Yeah, 1432 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: And at that point I was like, Holy mother, like 1433 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: right now, they're not getting it from home, but when 1434 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: they do, they're gonna own home. And I wonder how 1435 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 1: you kind of got through that? It was man. I 1436 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 1: think I think Dan took it a little bit harder 1437 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 1: than I did, just inherently because he I don't want 1438 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 1: to see like I don't do anything, but like Dan 1439 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 1: puts his entire life into this and I do as well. 1440 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: But you know, obviously now like I have a family, 1441 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: there are other things that really you know, and that's 1442 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 1: for him too, and everything's a chance he has. He 1443 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: has a wife, you know, and pretty much a family 1444 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: with his dogs, and there are other things obviously that 1445 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: mattered to him. But I think that that really, you know, 1446 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 1: that was just a lot of months going into making 1447 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 1: this stuff and and the build up to this and 1448 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: when someone when you go and you lose, it just sucks, 1449 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: like there's never and it doesn't just suck for for us, 1450 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, it sucks for everybody. It's horrible to lose 1451 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 1: and it's terrible to get up there. And the whole 1452 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,919 Speaker 1: concept of award shows now that we've like and after 1453 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: that we won like everything, and it was it was 1454 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 1: like it was cool, but it was just kind of like, 1455 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: it sucks that a lot of artists you feel like 1456 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 1: you live and die by these award shows and it's 1457 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: just not the truth. You know, it's amazing to be 1458 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 1: recognized by your peers, but I think that your peers 1459 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: do you recognize you in other way as it just 1460 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 1: sucks when it's publicly like you lost and you had 1461 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 1: such a monster you're like nobody else had. Yeah, I 1462 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 1: think that to me because the talent is so different 1463 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 1: and so just it's premier talent. Every duo nominated premiere talent. 1464 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 1: But you guys had statistically speaking, in every count chart, streams, tickets, 1465 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 1: there really wasn't something. Yeah, that was what hurt I 1466 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: think that's what hurts when you know that, Like you 1467 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: don't want to say, like we deserve it, but if 1468 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 1: there is a metric, you know what is the metric? 1469 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: At that point, it's like because you hope that it's 1470 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 1: just like whatever the biggest song was, like the biggest 1471 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 1: thing was you would hope that that would win, which 1472 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 1: is just not the case, which is it sucks if 1473 01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: you win, it's great, but like sometimes that happens with 1474 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 1: us when it's like they know, like that song probably 1475 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 1: should have won, you know, and every word show is 1476 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 1: different where it's you know, the Grammys is more like 1477 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: a cred thing. It's not necessarily based on like what 1478 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 1: was the biggest song, which is why we were blown 1479 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: away when we when we did win a Grammy because 1480 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 1: it was like, you know that that song was very 1481 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: commercially successful, so you're like to win a Grammy for 1482 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 1: it was like kind of a surprise for us. We 1483 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 1: had no idea that that was going to happen. But 1484 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, it does suck. Man, Like you're there 1485 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: and they're zoomed in on you and they're just waiting 1486 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 1: for you. They're on to say something and they're on 1487 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: a knee looking your face with a camera and it 1488 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: is from me to you, Oh dude, closer than that. 1489 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's literally like it's like a you know, 1490 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 1: they're up there and you're trying to smile and it's 1491 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 1: just like it's a weird thing. It's kind of like 1492 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: if you're there and people, you know, they get crap 1493 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 1: all the time because there's been in the past like 1494 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 1: people having a bad reaction like what you know, and 1495 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: they catch that like we got you, you know, and 1496 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 1: they play that over and over again, like oh man, 1497 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 1: like faith Hill. I've no idea that's never having a 1498 01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: faith Hill. But she was just like what you know 1499 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: and whatever that is. But it sucks because like if 1500 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: someone if some it's turn it around and make it 1501 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 1: like a lottery, Like there's three people in the rim 1502 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,920 Speaker 1: and you're gonna win a million dollars and you put 1503 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 1: through and you put a camera on them. What do 1504 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 1: you think that the other two are gonna be? What 1505 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do? Whenever they're like yeah, this this person 1506 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 1: and like the other twop like no, I put everything 1507 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 1: I wanted on this, like this is everything. So it sucks, 1508 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: Like of course you're gonna have a bad reaction, but 1509 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 1: we're all know now, like they'll get you if you're 1510 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 1: not you know, bummed out because it sucks, like for everyone, 1511 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 1: it sucks, and it's just kind of I don't know, 1512 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 1: and it's hard to see, like to see other people like, 1513 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, lose it. We had we kind of saw 1514 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: the other side of that because every award show after 1515 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 1: that we won like everything, and it was just kind 1516 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: of like this is like now we're on the other 1517 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 1: side of this, and it's almost like you're up there 1518 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 1: and then you just remember, like all these people right 1519 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 1: now hate us because it sucks, you know, to be 1520 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 1: on this side of that, and it's just I don't know. 1521 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: I think the most important that we tried to not 1522 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, live and die buy award shows, because it 1523 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 1: really is the most im written thing to us is 1524 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 1: to go out and to be able to to sell 1525 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: out shows is like the biggest deal to us, Like 1526 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: we want to be able to play to the most 1527 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 1: people that we can and for our music to get 1528 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: out there, you know. But it it definitely for anyone 1529 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 1: to say like that it doesn't matter, like it matters, 1530 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: Like it definitely matters, and that momentum helps like to 1531 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 1: win an award shows is huge, So it definitely sucks 1532 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: to because in in your heart you're almost like it 1533 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough, like what you did and what you 1534 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 1: put all those hours into of not sleeping for two 1535 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 1: years to make this record. It did, it wasn't good enough, 1536 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 1: And that's what really hurts of just being like, damn that, 1537 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 1: that's a bummer. You know, a couple more of these 1538 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 1: real quick speechless it's number one massive wedding song the 1539 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 1: Lords that it's the wedding song. The video, the whole 1540 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 1: thing was like dialed in. Yeah, like you knew the 1541 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: lane of this song visually, sonically, nailed it all to myself. 1542 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,919 Speaker 1: Made a lot of love to myself for this song. 1543 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you about ten thousand hours, what was 1544 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: the process like to get a song with Justin Bieber? 1545 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 1: Were you already talking about doing something together? Eventually? Did 1546 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 1: you have the song and Scooter go what what was 1547 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: that about? Yeah? I mean it was kind of it 1548 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 1: all started. I mean we obviously through Scooter, we had 1549 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 1: we had met like some people like we had met 1550 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 1: Ed Shearing through him. We had met Justin zur and 1551 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 1: we had been to l a a bunch of times, 1552 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: and we had met Justin a few times, and we 1553 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: always thought like, man, it'd be so cool. It's like 1554 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 1: to get Justin on a song because it's like, you know, 1555 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 1: it's one of the biggest pop stars in the world, 1556 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, and it was just like that in our 1557 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,520 Speaker 1: mind was like we of course I want to do 1558 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: a song with him, you know, especially since we have 1559 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 1: this connection. No one in country has this unique connection 1560 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: that we do, you know, through Scooter and UM. Early on, 1561 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: we definitely we wanted to try to, you know, do 1562 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 1: something with and we had pitched some things and I'm 1563 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: really glad that it didn't happen. Whenever, you know, it 1564 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 1: might have happened, like a long time ago, would not 1565 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 1: have been this. This is kind of the first time 1566 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 1: we had written this song in Nashville, Jesse, Joe Dillon, 1567 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Reynolds and UM. It was kind of that point 1568 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 1: where we had written the song and we're like, this, 1569 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 1: this actually might be perfect for for Justin because in 1570 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 1: that time, like the timing of everything of him being 1571 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, just getting married and all this stuff, and 1572 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 1: it was the first time that we felt like we 1573 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 1: were bringing something to the table where It wasn't just 1574 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: like can we please get Justin bieberrun our song? It 1575 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 1: was this would make sense for both of us. This 1576 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 1: would be I think big for for both of us. 1577 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 1: You know, it would make sense. We had like because 1578 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 1: and before it was just kind of like, you know, 1579 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: we were down here and we're like, can we get 1580 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 1: we please get Justin in our song? And then at 1581 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 1: that point, you know, we're out there like we're about 1582 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: to do arenas. We're a legitimate act so we can 1583 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 1: kind of bring something to the table, and um, we 1584 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 1: just you never know what's gonna happen. It's not like 1585 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 1: we were like, Okay, this is time and this is 1586 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 1: for sure going to happen. We didn't know what was 1587 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen when we sent the song to him. Um, 1588 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 1: but he just ended a Scooter or Doe. Yeah, we 1589 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,320 Speaker 1: had sent it to j B. We had we had 1590 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 1: called him. Uh No, we had just sent it to 1591 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: to Scooter to see if like it was something that 1592 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 1: he would like. Before we just like, you know, send 1593 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 1: it over to Justin and he was like, I think 1594 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 1: that this this makes a lot of sense. And Justin 1595 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,160 Speaker 1: heard it and loved it, and he resonated with it. 1596 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: I think, like we said, in the same way as 1597 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: we thought that he would like it, he liked it, 1598 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I just kind of we couldn't believe 1599 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 1: it whenever they were like, yeah, this is gonna it's 1600 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 1: gonna happen. So for for months, like we had his 1601 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 1: we got his vocal, uh and and they had like 1602 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 1: changed changed some things and kind of made it his own. 1603 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 1: And it was crazy like getting that back. We had 1604 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 1: to sit on that for months and months and it 1605 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 1: was not on the song, and not telling anybody about 1606 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,639 Speaker 1: it was like the hardest thing we've ever done because 1607 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,280 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, I've literally in my phone, 1608 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,679 Speaker 1: I had, you know, a song with us in Justin Bieber, 1609 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: and it's like I couldn't even talk about it. And 1610 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,920 Speaker 1: it was just like because if that gets out, you know, 1611 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 1: that's like a big that's a big league. Like maybe 1612 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,320 Speaker 1: if like they found out work coming out with a 1613 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,960 Speaker 1: new song, that's probably not gonna country songs don't really 1614 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,280 Speaker 1: like leak, but songs that Justin Bieber on him like, 1615 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,760 Speaker 1: that's a you know, worldwide, there's a lot of people 1616 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 1: trying to find that kind of stuff. So it was 1617 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 1: it was a crazy, crazy moment, And it was weird 1618 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,639 Speaker 1: because I knew, I just knew. I had a feeling 1619 01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 1: that it was gonna be big for us, just because 1620 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 1: the timing of everything, like the momentum that we had 1621 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 1: going into this with Tequila speechless and all of my stuff. 1622 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 1: It was just that moment of like, people are not 1623 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 1: gonna they're not going to see this guy at all, 1624 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 1: you know, and it was just crazy. Man. Before we wrap, 1625 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 1: I want to play one of my favorite songs of yours. 1626 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 1: It's called Your Love from two thousand eleven. Smack came 1627 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,680 Speaker 1: in up one seventy three in the Afghanistan charts. Oh 1628 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 1: it was. It was pretty big in Afghanistan. I can't 1629 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: even go there still, it's so it was so big there. 1630 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 1: And maybe city Lights with Gabby, Oh yeah, these are 1631 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 1: these are gay? So what was the goal with these 1632 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,920 Speaker 1: early songs? I was just messing, honest. I was actually 1633 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,760 Speaker 1: recording in Fayetteville with this guy named Mike Bailey, who 1634 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,880 Speaker 1: like kind of looks like you, which is pretty funny. 1635 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 1: You guys look a lot of like like the whole deal. 1636 01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 1: He's got like where's black glasses? Everything? You're like a 1637 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 1: much better looking like that. Yeah, he's like the you know, 1638 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,960 Speaker 1: I almost looked the poor man's version of that, you know, 1639 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,680 Speaker 1: the junior varsity meet university. Yeah, but yeah, I was 1640 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,960 Speaker 1: just I was just doing it for fun. It was like, ah, 1641 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 1: I think I was in high school at that time, 1642 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 1: just going to Fayetteville recording songs for fun in this 1643 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,800 Speaker 1: guy's house, and then I just would put them out 1644 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 1: and would you send that off to people there hoping 1645 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 1: to get that next level or we're just putting them 1646 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 1: out for fun. Now. I was putting them out just 1647 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 1: like thinking, like, you know, every day there are things 1648 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 1: to go viral. This is probably didn't it didn't work out, 1649 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: it didn't happen like that, but I was having fun. 1650 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,639 Speaker 1: I think I probably made I mean I'm literally made 1651 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 1: like tens of dollars off that stuff. Good for you. 1652 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:34,120 Speaker 1: I still checked my CD baby, uh sometimes CD Baby, 1653 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 1: I had CD Baby. I just checked music on my Space. 1654 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Uh No, I didn't know. I think my Space had 1655 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,640 Speaker 1: kind of it had fizzled out a little bit at 1656 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 1: that time. I think I put like I would put 1657 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,880 Speaker 1: these covers on Facebook though. That's what I did, like 1658 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 1: all through like high school. I would do Facebook videos 1659 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 1: and YouTube videos. Yeah, I remember I checked that that 1660 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,679 Speaker 1: CD baby account one time because I fo forgot about 1661 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: it because I had this like connected and that was 1662 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that like the label or anybody like 1663 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,840 Speaker 1: ever knew like it knew about it, but like they 1664 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 1: didn't know like the money was going. And I think 1665 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 1: I checked on CD baby account thinking like there could 1666 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 1: be like some serious change in here, and there was 1667 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:14,280 Speaker 1: like thirty seven change, literal change. So yeah, go out 1668 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: and check that out. I'm still Shae Mooney music on YouTube. 1669 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Go check that out. All right, You're gonna love it. 1670 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,559 Speaker 1: Your name, James Shay isn't moot. How do you spell 1671 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,120 Speaker 1: your last name? You're real m O O an e 1672 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 1: m o n e y it is any anyway anyway? Yeah, yeah, 1673 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 1: all right now. And if you're getting this with a pseudonym, 1674 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't think so. All right, um listen, go let 1675 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 1: me do a little plugger for you guys, not that 1676 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 1: you need it because you were killing the world. Uh. 1677 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,760 Speaker 1: The Arena tour kicks off March six in Nashville with 1678 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,720 Speaker 1: the bank Amino and Ingrid Andrews, who's a great friend 1679 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 1: and so good, so good all the way through October 1680 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 1: thirty one and you guys are everywhere. It's hard to 1681 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 1: get tickets. It just is. It's just really great to see. 1682 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 1: It's good to see people that work really hard crush 1683 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 1: it because it gives hope to other people who work 1684 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,760 Speaker 1: really hard. Likewise, man, it's it's really fun also, just 1685 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,000 Speaker 1: to to say it is very I think the coolest 1686 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,519 Speaker 1: thing about this town is the people that you do 1687 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: meet and when you get to see them. Also, you know, 1688 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,320 Speaker 1: crushing it and having these moments is fun because you're 1689 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 1: killing it. It just doesn't it doesn't feel like real 1690 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 1: life for either one of us. This is wild and 1691 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 1: I think a bit too, we haven't stopped to take 1692 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 1: it in is real schair sometimes? Yeah, And I think 1693 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,080 Speaker 1: for you it's great you have a kid and a 1694 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 1: wife because I think there's probably some balance there that 1695 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,840 Speaker 1: you didn't have before. When I'm home for like two weeks, 1696 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 1: I forget what I do for a living literally, which 1697 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 1: is probably not a good thing, but it is just 1698 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,680 Speaker 1: kind of those are two different worlds. So it's cool 1699 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 1: to slow down and I kind of remember how how 1700 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,000 Speaker 1: blessed we are to get to do this, especially with 1701 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,160 Speaker 1: people we love. Well, dude, I love you. I'm glad 1702 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 1: you're and I'm rooting for you guys. I get nervous 1703 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 1: for you guys. And and that's that's how you know 1704 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,720 Speaker 1: I really care because I'm like, man, I hope this 1705 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 1: does so good. We hope the arena towards seals. I 1706 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,560 Speaker 1: hope so. But one of these days we have to go. 1707 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 1: We have to play that. I don't think they've ever 1708 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,920 Speaker 1: done a concert like Bud Walton Arena. So let us 1709 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 1: go and we'll go do that too. We'll go, I'll 1710 01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,640 Speaker 1: do stand up and open the show and then you 1711 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,880 Speaker 1: guys is you guys will play. I would love it. 1712 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 1: They're working. By the way, this can be our opener. 1713 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm working on getting a massive amphitheater in Fort Smith, Arkansas? 1714 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,760 Speaker 1: Or you really from my hometown? Are you in? Yeah? 1715 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 1: Look at you and I and I want and I 1716 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 1: want you to be in on it. They have an 1717 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to just talk about it. Let me I have 1718 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 1: literally five Yeah, I just found that out, which is 1719 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 1: pretty exciting. So well, in with that question five, it 1720 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 1: says net Worth online, k it has to be higher, right, 1721 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 1: not after this deal going all in the amphitheater alright? 1722 01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: Episode two twenty one, Sha Mooney follow on Instagram at 1723 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:42,439 Speaker 1: Shay Mooney, follow at Dan and Shay and go see 1724 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 1: them if they're coming around. They really are even better 1725 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 1: than you think they will be, which is an amazing 1726 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,120 Speaker 1: to say about someone you already think they're going to 1727 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,639 Speaker 1: be great. So and I mean that with all my heart, 1728 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 1: not even saying all right, thank you you