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Speaker 1: Bonus with Doug Gottlie.

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Speaker 2: What up, Doug Gottlib Shoe at the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: iHeart Radio AaB Welcome, Welcome, welcome in. So here's the

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Speaker 3: With today.

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Speaker 2: And how it relates to Major League Baseball. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: this is a real thing. When you see a guy

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Speaker 2: hit fifty sixty home runs, when Shoe Heetani has three

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Speaker 2: Maris's home run record, When these things happen, it is

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Speaker 2: very normal, very normal for any of us to go,

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Speaker 2: I do wonder if he did it clean.

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Speaker 3: I do want if he did it clean.

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Speaker 2: And because of it, you know, it just it takes

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Speaker 2: away from every baseball player, not just the ones who

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Speaker 2: were using steroids. I bring it up because last night

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Speaker 2: I'm watching the NBA and you had two absolute virtuosos

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Speaker 2: stuff of legend. Not to be outdone, you had Shay

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Speaker 2: Gildess Alexander granted free throw merchant of the of the

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Speaker 2: nth degree, but fifty five points in a win against

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Speaker 2: the Pacers. And it's not that those two guys are

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Speaker 2: guilty of steroids or they're obviously not guilty of trying

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Speaker 2: to get the under on a on their daily personal line.

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Speaker 2: But the thing it, the most important thing to remember

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Speaker 2: or to think about, is that it's very normal human nature.

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Speaker 2: Is Hey, I do wonder if that game was on

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Speaker 2: the up and up. You wonder if the fouls, Well,

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Speaker 2: the Donneghie thing makes you think, okay, where the officials

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Speaker 2: trying to help Oklahoma City? And then these latest allegations

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Speaker 2: are you're trying to figure out, all right, does the

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Speaker 2: other team does do the Pacers anybody in the Pacers

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Speaker 2: have shay Gilgess Alexander to hit the over for his

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Speaker 2: daily stats. That's a real reasonable thing to wonder. I

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Speaker 2: don't for one second think that anything was nefarious in

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Speaker 2: either of those two games. But that's also because I

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Speaker 2: have a brain. I'm not constantly thinking conspiracy theories. And

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Speaker 2: I do believe that one of the good things about

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Speaker 2: the overall legalization of gambling is they can they can

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Speaker 2: find out who's trying to who's trying to.

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Speaker 3: Rig a game.

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Speaker 2: It becomes pretty obvious to them. But the sinister part

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Speaker 2: of the gambling is one when you lose a bunch

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Speaker 2: of money, the thought that, Okay, now you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to do something illicit in order to make it back.

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Speaker 2: In two how it affects everybody's overall watch of the sport.

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Speaker 2: I've never been a WW guy. I don't necessarily understand

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Speaker 2: sports because sports outcome is not determined. It's not predetermined,

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Speaker 2: and when you mess with that, you mess with the

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Speaker 2: core of what sports is about. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: anybody who can't look at that story from yesterday and think,

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Speaker 2: I just I just wonder, I just wonder. So you

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Speaker 2: watch baseball, you watch NFL football, And it's one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons why I have been so vociferous in people

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Speaker 2: who say football is rigged or something like, do you

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Speaker 2: understand what you're questioning in terms of credibility? It takes

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Speaker 3: Here's Dan Patrick talking about the Vikings.

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Speaker 4: Their offensive line isn't very good. In fairness to Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 4: And I could understand that, but I think the bigger

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Speaker 4: been out for six weeks. And Carson Wentz is not

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Speaker 4: the answer. And this is where you can't help but

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Speaker 4: to you to come back, and Aaron Rodgers flirted with you.

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Speaker 4: He chose a different direction. You chose a different direction.

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Speaker 4: And I know that this is hindsight, but this is

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Speaker 2: I don't know they made Justin Jefferson the highest paid

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Speaker 2: that great Here's Brady Quinn talking about the NBA gambling

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Speaker 5: Well, here's where this doesn't hold up. And this is

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Speaker 5: There's been an investigation going on by the FBI for years.

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Speaker 5: Ended up missing the entire rest of the season because

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Speaker 6: And the other part that I think is kind of

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Speaker 6: But when they were, when they were, you know, I

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Speaker 6: I mean, what do you expect to be dg take

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it has been a long time coming.

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Speaker 2: This is not something recent, and you know, the FBI

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Speaker 8: For me, in my life, I'm growing up the most

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Speaker 8: We see this now across all sports, but baseball of

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Speaker 8: either sons, nephews, brothers of other great players. How cool

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Speaker 9: Think if you go back and count and really look

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Speaker 9: It makes for great storylines. And you know, I think

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's just a great story.

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Speaker 8: He also looks the exact same as a little kid. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question it's it's a very unique storyline.

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Speaker 2: That that Nick framed his dad correctly. His dad was

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Speaker 2: So there's a there's a lot that goes into it.

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Speaker 10: So so Doug, if I can correct the record, I

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Speaker 10: to that kind of hype. And Vlad Guerrero has not

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Speaker 10: I love watching him. Plus, he's like a top five

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Speaker 10: I hope he cools down considerably over the next ten days.

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Speaker 10: But I love the story.

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Speaker 2: You know what's what's interesting is here's the difference. Vlad

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Speaker 2: Guerrero has never openly spoken about his son, whereas I

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Speaker 2: don't think the pressure has been put on by outsiders

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that that leads to the hype.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely been a huge part of the hype.

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Speaker 2: Huge part of the hype is they've been uh, they've

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Speaker 2: was more teasing because you've pointed out time and again

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Speaker 2: or you said the words nepo baby uh previously, that's

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Speaker 3: Let's find out who what's annoying? Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying.

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Speaker 10: I've first from a lot of guys, you know, up

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Speaker 10: Cody Bellinger is known for a lot of things. He

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Speaker 15: I thought man Fred's punishment was weak, given him immunity.

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Speaker 15: because I know me. Gary Sanders said, he yes, say

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Speaker 7: Wait, wait, Jason, did you say kick the can down

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Speaker 10: You mean like the trash can, right, kick the trash

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Speaker 3: Look what he did there?

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Speaker 2: What we all know is gonna happen is that it

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Speaker 2: No, during the World Series. I think when in the

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Speaker 2: That's about the twenty seven different ways in which he cheated.

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Speaker 2: And when you're sloppy and you make enough mistakes, eventually

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Speaker 7: Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 9: I do.

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Speaker 1: Because we can.

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Speaker 10: I would say that Dana White is a gift to

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Speaker 10: this segment. If I ever need someone who's more than

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Speaker 10: willing to drop f bombs and say something interesting, how

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Speaker 10: about this. Dana White did a podcast recently and he

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Speaker 10: was talking about why everybody should partake in MMA.

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Speaker 11: You can do two things. You can run and fucking

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Speaker 11: hide crow up in a ball and let the world

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Speaker 11: just fucking beat you to death. Or you can dig

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Speaker 11: your fucking heels in. You figure out how to you know,

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Speaker 11: you have to figure out yourself, and then you fucking

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Speaker 11: dig in, you fight.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I mean, I like Dana.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited a big card this weekend, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know if we want everybody to do an MMA nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: why could play it for you? Because we can. That's

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Speaker 2: it for the end the Bonus Podcast. I got the

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Speaker 2: radio show every day three to five Eastern Tell two Pacific,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. I'm Doug Gottlieb