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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I am Evan Abrams

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Speaker 3: and I am joined by NFL betting expert and futures

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Speaker 3: analyst Brandon Anderson. This is the rankings episode where we

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Speaker 3: continue here on the Action Network and today we're looking

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Speaker 3: at offenses. Brandon, Now, before we get into your tiers

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Speaker 3: and we're going to go over every team into each

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Speaker 3: of these tiers in the different sections and different things

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Speaker 3: like that, I want you to explain to the listeners

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Speaker 3: how you can pile your rankings when it comes to

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Speaker 3: your offenses in terms of criteria and what you're considering,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. So walk us through it a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, really, what we've been walking through here at

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Speaker 2: Action Network podcast for the last week is how we

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Speaker 2: got here. So if you haven't listened yet, go back

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Speaker 2: and listen. We did quarterbacks, then we did skill positions,

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Speaker 2: offensive lines, and coaching. So really this particularly is kind

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Speaker 2: of a compilation of all of that. You add up

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Speaker 2: all the positions, offensive coordinator, slashing, play calling, I can

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Speaker 2: use as more of a force multiplier, so it either

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Speaker 2: makes everything better or everything worse. And a couple of

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Speaker 2: things on the rankings here. Offense is stickier than a defense,

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Speaker 2: so we shouldn't have a lot of surprises up near

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Speaker 2: the top. Elite quarterback, elite offense, elite system, elite offense.

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Speaker 2: So to me, I see a lot of content out there,

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Speaker 2: a lot of podcasts doing top ten lists. That's kind

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Speaker 2: of the boring part, to be honest, Like I already

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Speaker 2: spoiler we're gonna have like Mahomes and Lamar and Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen our top ten. Let's get to the middle. The

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Speaker 2: middle is actually more interesting to me in this section.

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Speaker 2: And who do we know is not in either one

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Speaker 2: of those sections. That's We're ranking all thirty two as always,

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Speaker 2: when I did like the quarterbacks. The offensive lines I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to rank one to thirty two today is a

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Speaker 2: little bit different. You should sort of think of it

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Speaker 2: as the higher up the ranks they go, the closer

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Speaker 2: number one. Not necessarily a ranking in order at the top,

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Speaker 2: more of a confidence ranking. How sure am I that

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Speaker 2: And again that's why the middle gets really interesting, because

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Speaker 2: prest to store it out. So, as always, we're doing

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Speaker 3: Let's get into a yes, So, I mean, the most

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Speaker 3: interesting thing to me just is the teams that are

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Speaker 3: It is the regular season juggernaut. You label it as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think because they were in a tier

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Speaker 2: So I actually went through and I downgraded the Ravens

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just mea kopa. I got it wrong. That

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thirteen to one. I'll give you these stats before

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess my only thought on Kansas City is

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Speaker 3: Green Bay. Maybe the biggest surprise to some. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Love ahead number six in my quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 2: we don't know. We only have one good year of

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Speaker 2: two half years. I'm combining into that. But the crazy

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Speaker 2: the season, but they finish top six offensively both of

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Speaker 2: We played Malik Willis who's basically just handing the ball

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Speaker 2: and it's a bet on just lots of options of

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Speaker 2: but we have five pretty good options, got a couple

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Speaker 2: of tight ends we like offensive line, We've got a

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Speaker 2: I honestly feel like this might be Kyle Shanahan's finest

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Speaker 2: floor is for them. There's a lot of other Shanahan

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Speaker 3: Yeah, easy schedule, We've been over it, like all these

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Speaker 3: It's just interesting because they have some things not going

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Speaker 3: ten plus and even last year with their whole, situation

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Speaker 3: the third. DOWN a lot says a lot about, parties

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Speaker 3: helps the, efficiency So i'll let it. SLIDE i just

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Speaker 3: don't love them. Overall all, right next tier, here you're

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Speaker 3: gonna label this. Tier what the hell is A bear

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Speaker 3: doing In, Arlington? Texas it's six through, Nine so let's

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Speaker 3: just list the teams and we'll go from. There it

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Speaker 3: is six With, philly Seven, minnesota Eight, chicago and Nine,

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Speaker 2: Got, yeah we gotta start with The. BEARS i tweeted this,

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Speaker 2: out but here's been The bears offensive ranking out of

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Speaker 2: thirty two teams going, backwards so last, year twenty second

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Speaker 2: year before twenty, two twenty five twenty, six twenty, five twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five that's six straight, years over half a decade of

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Speaker 2: basically fringe bottom. Ten and here we go with my,

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Speaker 2: Savior Ben johnson shows up In, chicago And i'm vaulting

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Speaker 2: johnson In, detroit they jumped his first year offensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: from bottom five passing to top. Six each year since,

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Speaker 2: then virtually, overnight they jumped from bottom ten running to top.

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Speaker 2: Five over the, years they got slowly better in. Running

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Speaker 2: he got better production out Of, amana out Of, laporta

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Speaker 2: certainly out Of Jared. Goff so that offense jumped from

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Speaker 2: a former number. One well guess. What Caleb williams is

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Speaker 2: WAS i do have a little bit of uncertainty there

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Speaker 2: WITH i Think goff was readier for Where Ben johnson

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Speaker 2: could take. Him BUT i Think Caleb williams has a higher.

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Speaker 2: Ceiling the offensive. Line we talked about how big of

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Speaker 2: a leap forward there with the whole interior redone With

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Speaker 2: Joe tooney and the other guys they brought. IN i

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Speaker 2: don't love the running backs, here but Maybe Ben johnson

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Speaker 2: CAN i at least get them towards average like he

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Speaker 2: did With detroit first. YEAR i like the receiving options

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Speaker 2: you Got Dj, Moore Roma, Donsay Colston, lovelin the Rookie i'm.

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Speaker 2: In i'm not seeing The bears talked about as a

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Speaker 2: top ten. Offense to, me this is a vote on.

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Speaker 2: Continuity i'm Keeping Ben johnson in my top ten BECAUSE

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Speaker 2: i Had Ben johnson as good as any offensive play

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Speaker 2: caller last. Year so No lions. Yet we'll get there pretty.

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Speaker 2: Soon But i'm Keeping Ben, johnson just not The. Lions

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Speaker 2: he's the reason that their rank thus.

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Speaker 3: High the ultimate on paper team Is Ben, Johnson Caleb

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Speaker 3: williams and these receivers because it looks fantastic and the

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Speaker 3: thought process behind it looks. Great i'll give you these

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Speaker 3: stats BECAUSE i kind of teased it a second. Ago but,

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Speaker 3: basically when you look At cincinnati And CHICAGO epa per,

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Speaker 3: play seventh and twenty sixth success, rate sixth and thirtieth

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Speaker 3: yards were played ninth and thirty. Second that Was cincinnati

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Speaker 3: on the left And chicago on the right last. Season

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Speaker 3: so this is a very very odd thing to see them.

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Speaker 3: Together but you're, right on, paper it looks. Great i'll say.

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Speaker 3: This so last two years on the, Road chicago five

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Speaker 3: the issue is they hadn't been able to find points

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Speaker 3: on the. Road, now last, year the bigger issue with.

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Speaker 3: Sacks So caleb when he was sacked four plus times

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Speaker 3: happened seven, Times chicago went oh to, seven averaging eleven

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Speaker 3: that is a huge. Issue AND i think we saw,

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Speaker 3: doesn't look. Great so you, know you had The bears

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Speaker 3: thirteenth last, year you have them eighth this. YEAR i

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Speaker 3: think it's it's time For caleb to show. Something SO

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Speaker 3: i get. It but let's keep going. Here so the

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Speaker 3: next one on your list is The. VIKINGS i think

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Speaker 3: the most interesting thing With minnesota was they were twenty

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Speaker 3: third in your rankings last. Year now there's. Seventh Now

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Speaker 3: Sam darnold TO jj, McCarthy very. Different AND i don't

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Speaker 3: think anybody think their win total was like six or

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Speaker 3: six and a half last. Year nobody saw that. Coming

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Speaker 2: Minnesota, yeah, Look i'm A vikings, fan so this is

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Speaker 2: gonna come off as homersm to put them this high

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Speaker 2: in their. Rankings BUT i am as always A minnesota,

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Speaker 2: Nihilist So i'm actually got to talk myself past some

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Speaker 2: of my natural. SKEPTICISM i had them ranked twenty third last,

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Speaker 2: year obviously missed, out but if you look at THE dvoa,

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Speaker 2: Ranking minnesota finished twentieth Last they're. Sorry they finished fifteenth last.

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Speaker 2: Year they were twenty third and twentieth the two years before.

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Speaker 2: That so we talk about koc is this elite play

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Speaker 2: caller as good as, Anyone but the numbers aren't telling you.

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Speaker 2: That the numbers are, Saying, Okay minnesota's offense is beer

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Speaker 2: so what's? Happening, well some of it is he's winning,

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Speaker 2: games but we know that they're all these kind of

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Speaker 2: okay how DO i get from there to hear at number?

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Speaker 2: minnesota has played at its floor for the last couple of.

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Speaker 2: He Sam, donald that was the, backup he's not supposed

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Speaker 2: to be starting last. Year that's supposed to BE jj.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy i'm excited to see what McCarthy can. Bring a

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Speaker 2: bit of a run, threat some mobility that The vikings

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Speaker 2: have not had certainly under koc and then a big

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Speaker 2: leap forward an offensive. Line a lot of offensive line injuries

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years as, well so no, blocking

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Speaker 2: throughout the, year maybe you sneak into the top. Ten

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Speaker 2: SO i struggled with the, numbers to be, honest, frankly

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Speaker 2: all four of the, teams by the, numbers don't quite

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Speaker 2: belong in this top ten. Metrics But, MINNESOTA i think

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Speaker 2: if they're playing out the, floor can we get more

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Speaker 2: of a? Ceiling can we finally stay a little healthier this?

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Speaker 3: Year if you don't mind me, asking what was your

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Speaker 3: ranking for McCarthy in? Quarterbacks pretty?

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Speaker 3: There kind of interesting that they're this high on the

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00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 3: offensive ranking and there's still it's intriguing to. Me and

427
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 3: without the homersm we're just going to take it and

428
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 3: move on. Here eagles And bengals are kind of mashed.

429
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 3: Together eagles are, Sixth bengals are ninth in your, rankings

430
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 3: but just give me a one over on.

431
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 2: Both, Yeah philadelphia actually finish not inside the top eight

432
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 2: offense even though they won The Super bowl last. Year

433
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: they were thirteenth IN dva. OFFENSIVELY i have a go

434
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,959
Speaker 2: to stat WHEN i do offenses every, year, like, oh

435
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 2: the final four teams are top eight offenses every single. Year, No,

436
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: philadelphia you ruined. It your offense was bad enough or

437
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: mediocre enough at least to ruin the stat is the

438
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 2: defense that won for them last, year and actually they've

439
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: finished in the last four years, thirteen, ten, three and

440
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 2: eleven BY. Dba there was one Year Jalen hurts was

441
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: NEAR mvp and the offense was awesome where the passing

442
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 2: was way. Up otherwise they're about tenth or, twelve somewhere

443
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: in that. Range SO i think six actually makes me

444
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 2: a little, uncomfortable Especially Kevin, patula the new play. Caller

445
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: we don't really know much about them. Yet there's already

446
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 2: some injuries on the offensive. Line we know the tackles

447
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 2: have some injury history, there and it's a very top heavy.

448
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: Team if some of those stars get, INJURED i think

449
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: they could fall out a little. Better but the floor

450
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 2: should be very. High obviously the run game is very

451
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: strong if the pass can be. There The bengals no

452
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: real reason we need to talk about why they're top,

453
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: ten just maybe why? Barely for? Me why Ninth white

454
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: below The, Bears it's because similar reason they finished fifth last,

455
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: year but they've only had two seasons now With Zach

456
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: taylor And Joe burrow in the top. Ten, ever that's.

457
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 2: It that should be very disappointing For bengals. Fans, NOW

458
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: i think they'll have one this. Year When, Burrow chase

459
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 2: and t were healthy last, year they were basically. UNSTOPPABLE

460
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: i Like, PITCHER i like what he's done with the

461
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: offense to help them out a little. Bit to, ME

462
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: i had to kind of argue with, myself why are

463
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: they so? LOW i feel better about. Them shouldn't they

464
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 2: be like five or? Six and it's the offensive. Line

465
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 2: they're bottom three in offensive, line and that gives you

466
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: a much lower floor than you would. Think and the lower,

467
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: FLOOR i think is what's coming out in the number

468
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 2: is of why it's so hard and they need so

469
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 2: much to go right just to kind of push just

470
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 2: towards spot number. Five so that's, why again these are

471
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: more confidence rankings. Here i'm less confident than them pushing

472
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: up toward that top spot because that offensive line is

473
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: a real concern for.

474
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: Them, yeah that makes. SENSE i also Think cincinnati's, defense

475
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 3: and as great As burrow and the whole, OFFENSES i

476
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 3: think their defense gives their offense more opportunities score more.

477
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: Points it's been so bad THAT i think it's inflated

478
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 3: the offense a little. Bit so if their defense on

479
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: some measure does get a little bit, BETTER i think

480
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: it'll even out of. It SO i have NO i

481
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 3: Think bears Over bengals is just your hot take of

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Speaker 3: brandon we're gonna move to the next, tier Now tier.

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Speaker 3: Four so this is labeled top ten push if things go,

501
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: right which means you, know they can get possibly into that, seven, eight, nine,

502
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: ten depending on what happens. Here so let me list

503
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 3: them out and then we'll go kind of in. Order

504
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: So lions at, Eleven lions at, eleven, Twelve cardinals, Thirteen.

505
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: Falcons can't believe we don't want to start with The,

506
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: lions but we will start with The. Rams it rounds

507
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: out your top. Ten so the biggest question, here and

508
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: we actually put it in Our Action network slack today

509
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 3: about old dads with bulging, discs and that's exactly what

510
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: the storyline here is With. Stafford so talk to me about.

511
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: It rams at, Ten, yeah a lot of concern About. Stafford,

512
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: certainly this is a ranking that you, know even by

513
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 2: the time we're Recording, friday by the time that this

514
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 2: comes Out, monday this ranking could change Because stafford is

515
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: again supposed to be practicing over the, weekend so we're

516
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: day to day on this. Ranking And i've got even

517
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 2: more concerns because it's not just The stafford. Health stafford's

518
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: been a lot more inconsistent THAN i think people give credit.

519
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: For he was only fourteenth in my quarterback, rankings Because

520
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: i'm concerned about both of, those and it's not Just.

521
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: Stafford his. INJURY i think is Overlooking Aleric, jackson their left,

522
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: tackle who's really important to. Them they had a ton

523
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: of offensive line injuries last, year and that's part of

524
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: WHY i was, optimistic Is, okay let's regress to the,

525
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 2: mean let's have a little bit healthier. Line but he's

526
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: got blood clots in his. Leg we don't know if

527
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna be ready to start the season or even

528
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: when does he start the. Season so INITIALLY i had The,

529
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: rams the Healthy rams easily in the group Aboves sean.

530
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: McVay we know it. Happens, however then it's all the

531
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: question Mark stafford And Elyric. Jackson so THEN i was,

532
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 2: like WHEN i gave you my, rankings even you, know

533
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: a few hours, ago they were kind of right in

534
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: the middle of like complete. Wildcard WHERE i settled is

535
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle because we don't Love Jimmy, garoppolo

536
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: But Jimmy garoppolo In sean mcvay's, system we've Seen jimmy

537
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: perform in a. SYSTEM i think having the backup quarterback

538
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: that can at least be quality in A sean McVay,

539
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: offense assuming THE offensei online isn't completely, crater Which jimmy's

540
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: gonna make the line look a little, worse but it

541
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 2: gives them a safe floor enough to still have me

542
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: put them around. Tenth BUT i think that that tenth

543
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: becomes a composite where like for six weeks of the

544
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: year they're a top five offense and everyone's real, Excited

545
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: but then we get other times Where stafford's hurt or

546
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: out Or Aleric jackson hasn't played, yet AND i think

547
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: they maybe start the season slow and we'll see how

548
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: they recover from. There it's become a theme with The. Rams,

549
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: YEAH i.

550
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: Mean looking at it from a If garoppolo would play,

551
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: PERSPECTIVE i, mean he's one of the better backups in the,

552
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: league so you probably raise the basement because of, that

553
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: plus McVeigh and you Know DeVante, adams and you still

554
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 3: have targets there WITH, Buca, like the offense is gonna

555
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: be with the offenses and For garoppolo it's gonna be.

556
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 3: DECENT i would say they probably would still be outside

557
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: some of the really bad teams at the bottom of this,

558
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: list which you know says something at the moment when

559
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 3: we really have no idea what to do With. Stafford

560
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: SO i can't really have much feedback here BECAUSE i

561
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: think it's absolutely a huge question. Mark but because it's

562
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: such a huge question, MARK i think it's still a

563
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 3: storyline that they're above The lions because The lions are,

564
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 3: eleventh The rams are, two and it's just it's a

565
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: crazy AND i kind of agree with. It but The

566
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: lions were third in your rankings last, year now eleventh this.

567
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: Year to kind of talk about Know Ben, johnson what

568
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 3: that offense might look, like what's your thought?

569
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: Process, YEAH i, mean, obviously if you've been listening to

570
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: these rankings podcasts by, now you know how Heavily i'm

571
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: betting in On Ben. Johnson so what's good for The

572
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: bears has to be bad for The. Lions but let

573
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: me talk about another name. Here now we've mentioned it

574
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: before in the offensive. Lines they did not just Lose Ben.

575
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: Johnson they also Lost Frank, regnow WHICH i think is

576
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: a huge loss that's for the. Team the star center

577
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: retired in the offseason From Nate, tice since twenty, twelve

578
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: excluding garbage, time with Reg now on the, field number

579
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: three in success rate for This lions. Offense with him

580
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: off the, field they dropped to bottom ten in success. Rate,

581
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: okay so what does that? Mean what's that tell me

582
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: About Ben? Johnson by the, Way because SHOULD i be

583
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: worried About Ben johnson when you don't have your star,

584
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: center which we don't Have Frank reignow In, chicago we

585
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: SHOULD i be concerned? That, okay maybe there's some magic missing?

586
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: There is it been the whole? Package, WELL i think With,

587
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: Detroit i'm going somewhere along in the middle of that

588
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: WHERE i have to assume right now until we see

589
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: otherwise That i'm gonna get a worse version Of Jared

590
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: goff than what we've. Seen we've seen him great with

591
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: McVeigh And Ben, johnson we've seen him pretty, mediocre and

592
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: that's Kind without those. TWO i Think Ben johnson's been

593
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: a big help For Sam. LAPORTA i Think Ben johnson

594
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: has elevated the offensive line. Play, okay so now you

595
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: lost Rag now and you lost the guy calling the

596
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 2: plays to elevate the. Line so every it's the tide

597
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: is dropping on everything it's a lower floor everywhere for. Me, now,

598
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: look If i'm being, honest putting The lions eleventh instead of,

599
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: tenth maybe just SO i could not have them top

600
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: ten and have a nice spicy take for. You, sure

601
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: they're in a tier for a, reason but importantly they're

602
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: not really in my like my feel of top ten.

603
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: Teams and importantly too with the last team of the

604
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: day vision that we got to, here AND i think

605
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: that should tell us a lot about at least some

606
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: real cautions for what's supposed to be a top Five

607
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: Super bowl.

608
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: Team, yeah and their volatility has been. Crazy so they

609
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: have the highest average over under for any team both

610
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: last year and last three. Years last year they're over,

611
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: under their games were almost fifty. One last three years

612
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: it's forty. Nine and then when you look at yards per,

613
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: play offense last year was third and their defense and

614
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: yards were played was twenty. Seventh SO i think it's

615
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: also just getting opportunities on the offensive. SIDE i agree

616
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: there's a regression, there but you, KNOW i would be

617
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 3: it's an INTERESTING i wish that there was a market

618
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: WHERE i can kind of look at a statistic and

619
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: say to, MYSELF i think The lions are going to

620
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 3: finish offensively outside the top, ten you'd be getting some

621
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: decent plus money on a few different. Categories all, right

622
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: let's keep going, Here so restaur ALL nfc teams in

623
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: this tier a bit. Surprising you've got The birds at

624
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: the top of The cardinals And. FALCONS i, MEAN i

625
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: think we've seen more From arizona's offense to just understand

626
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: a little bit What Kyler murray is going to give.

627
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: Us even if we Think harrison's going to go to

628
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: the next, LEVEL i Think pennix is a huge question

629
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: mark around people saying That bijon's going to be the

630
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: best running back in the league in terms of fantasy

631
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: And Drake london should go near the, top et, cetera et.

632
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: Cetera is a lot of reliance. There so talk to

633
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: me a little bit about both of those.

634
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: Teams, YEAH i really agree with. That to be, Honest

635
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: i'm pretty low On Michael. Penix IF i was more

636
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: confident in, HIM i Think atlanta maybe it would have

637
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: been top of this Tire and my surprise number ten for,

638
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: ME i think you could argue as low as both

639
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: of us feel About, pennix can they really have much

640
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: worse quarterback play than they had last. Year LIKE i

641
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: think they're already at the floor of what the quarterback should.

642
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: Be and this is really a bet on not Just,

643
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: byjon not just the skill, Guys it's a bet On Zach,

644
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: robinson the play, caller WHERE i, think actually considering the

645
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: hand he was dealt with no quarterback really to get

646
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: them to go bounce back to top five run, game

647
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: they had really fallen off since The Arthur smith. Years

648
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: so bringing back the run game With, algier With, bijon

649
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: getting both of those guys in the, mix and, now,

650
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: okay you've given a pretty good setup For Michael pennix

651
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: where you don't have to be the guy doing. Everything

652
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: can we lean on the run and the offensive. Line

653
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: can you make some pretty throws down the sideline even

654
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: if some of the in between stuff doesn't go so.

655
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: WELL i could see a world Where penix has pretty

656
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: low success rate down by, down but pretty GOOD epa

657
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: because we're hitting some long plays down the. Field so

658
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: that's kind of why they end up writing this. Range

659
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: cardinals were right in this range last. Year they're fringe

660
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: top ten passing and. Running the only real CONCERN i

661
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: have On. Arizona is they Lose Clayton, adams the guy

662
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: that's really set up this super creative run. Game he's

663
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: over In dallas, now so it's hard to. Know it's

664
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: kind of The Ben johnson thing, again except with less

665
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: sexy names about. It who gets? Credit Does petsing get

666
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: the credit because he's defensive coordinator and he's going to

667
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: keep things. Moving Does Clayton adams keep the credit with

668
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: them going To. Dallas it's really hard to parse till

669
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: we have the, results and we don't really. Know BUT

670
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: i do have skepticism of both of these. Teams and

671
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: it's weird because we're gonna get in the next. Tier

672
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: now there's like eighteen teams that feel like quote top ten,

673
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: offenses so we're gonna hurt some. Feelings and, frankly it

674
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: would have been much easier to put The cardinals And

675
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 2: falcons down a tier and put some of these other

676
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: teams up a few. Spots BUT i think the floor

677
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: with a lot of talent there is maybe a little

678
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: safer versus some of the teams are about to get.

679
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: INTO i have more faith In. ATLANTA i just think,

680
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: overall given the division as well the defenses in THE

681
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: Nfc west are going to be difficult For kyler and

682
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: different difficult For arizona even If harrison takes that. STEP

683
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: i just think it's gonna be an easier. Road so

684
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: that that's just you, know my kind of one two,

685
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: there all, Right tier, Five this is again you just

686
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: kind of alluded to. THIS i have no idea what

687
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: to do with many of these, teams BUT i will

688
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: say of these five, teams, like three are gonna be,

689
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: good two are gonna be, like there's gonna be a

690
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: very mixed. Bag so trying to figure out what to

691
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: do here is. Interesting let me list the five teams

692
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: and then we'll kind of go one by. One so

693
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: at fourteen you've got The dolphins and they and, yeah

694
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: we'll talk about that a. Second, SORRY i almost wanted

695
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: this out. There fourteenth The, dolphins fifteen The, bucks sixteen The,

696
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: cowboys seventeen The, commanders and eighteen The. Chargers SO i

697
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: guess kind of go through the five teams off the bat.

698
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: Here why exactly can't you make up your mind really

699
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: on any of?

700
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: Them, Yeah So miami And tampa are at the top

701
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: of this group because they're the two teams out of

702
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: these five THAT i legitimately had in my top ten

703
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: and different versions of this. Exercise MAYBE i can't quite

704
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: Quit mike McDaniel In, miami But i'm inching. CLOSER i

705
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: feel like what we're gonna see is something, like you,

706
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: know six games where two is healthy and everyone's, healthy

707
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: and they're playing bad, teams And miami is, like oh,

708
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: man they're. Back you, know they put up fifty points

709
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: on someone. Again but then we're gonna get some more

710
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: games where they're playing real offense or real defenses or

711
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: playing outdoor. Games McDaniel has been great at killing the bad,

712
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: teams but just can't find answers against the good. Teams

713
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: and we're probag gonna miss some two games because we

714
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: just have to assume that the one year this offense

715
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: was elite is the one year of his. Career two

716
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: has been healthy all, year every other year max thirteen,

717
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: games and then last year of course they Created so

718
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: this is sort of, like this is the most volatile

719
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: team for. ME i told YOU i have ranges for.

720
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 2: Teams Here's miami's range fifth to twenty. Fifth they could

721
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 2: be pretty much anything in THE, Nfl so they kind

722
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: of just end up in the middle here AS i

723
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: have no. Idea Campa. Bay they finished sixth IN dva last,

724
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: year was a huge leap Under Liam. Cohen, Okay Liam cohen's,

725
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: Gone so what About Josh. Grizzard he was the guy

726
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: designing all the great third down. Plays they were this

727
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: unsustainable outlier third down. Offense, well what if it's. Sustainable

728
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: what if the guy that did all that and as

729
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: now calling first and second down? Two what if that's really?

730
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: Good that's. Great but when you Lose canalis and then

731
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: Lose Liam, cohen the guy's calling the plays like at

732
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: some POINT i have to assume there might be some

733
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: sort of a, downgrade AND i do worry if that.

734
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: Happens Does baker play a little? Worse does the line

735
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: play a little? Worse does it all packaged? Together but

736
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: then the big thing for me IS i can still

737
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: see the, upside But tristan worse not being ready to

738
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: start the. Year he's as good as any offensive, lineman

739
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: and his, INJURY i cannot buy this offense or anything

740
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: about The buccaneers while he is, out AND i don't

741
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: have a good sense and can't figure out when he's

742
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: gonna play. Again so while he's out they might be

743
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: like outside the top twenty. Offenses when he's, HEALTHY i

744
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: can make a very good case that they should be

745
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: in my top ten in that like six to nine

746
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: ranges where they would have been if worse. Healthy so

747
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: this is my, compromise kind of sticking those two in the.

748
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: Middle any thoughts On miami Or tampa before we get

749
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: to the other.

750
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 3: Teams, yeah So miami was first in your rankings last.

751
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: YEAR i feel like we can't bury that lead and

752
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: they're now down to. Fourteenth and the thing that's amazing

753
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: about The miami offense, really if you look last three

754
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 3: years in yards per, play they are still fifth because

755
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: of how great they were prior to last. Season SO

756
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: i mean that offense that we saw score the seventy

757
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 3: and do all the crazy stuff really needs to show

758
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: its Head week one In indie, indoors like against a

759
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 3: defense that really isn't, incredible BECAUSE i think if they

760
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: aren't able to do their job in that, GAME i

761
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: think it's something for what's to. Come in terms Of Tampa,

762
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: bay this is difficult BECAUSE i think you're really really

763
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 3: smart with the worst, take because he is such a

764
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: lock on that offensive line and does such a great

765
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: job really helping out everything That baker's been able to

766
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: do In Tampa. Bay but last year really just fifth

767
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: and epa per play and drop back fourth overall in

768
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: yards per. Play, now No, GODWIN i think we believe

769
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: the first four weeks and we've been we've been hearing

770
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 3: that a book is going to, be you, know just,

771
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: fine roll in offensive rookie of the year having value

772
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: in his, odds like people are really kind of like

773
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: helping him. Up BUT i think, No godwin is really

774
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: just something to note because of how consistent and you,

775
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: know moving the chains catches like Makes Mike evans's life.

776
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: Easier SO i think it's the jury's out there in

777
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: terms of what that replacement looks like at least early

778
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: in the. Year But Tampa bay Under baker super consistent

779
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: even last two, seasons seventh in yards per, play so

780
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: they really do move the. Ball SO i think it's.

781
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: Interesting BUT i have a little bit more faith In

782
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: tampa even with the, injuries THAN i Do. Miami but you,

783
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: know throw it in the.

784
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: Air, YEAH i really Had miami in like, six, seven

785
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: eight range EVEN i had them for a while possibly

786
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: threatening my top. Five And i'm a little bit going

787
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: wisdom of the crowds, HERE i can't find any of

788
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: the other analysts out, there all the NERDS i listen,

789
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: to all the everybody like, that nobody's in On, miami

790
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: and all the vibes that On miami are pretty bad.

791
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: Too and at some Point i'm gonna kind of admit

792
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: defeat a little bit on, like all, right they're gonna

793
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: have to prove it all over again to. Me so

794
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: they kind of just end up in the middle, Here

795
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: dallas And washington right in a row on, this and

796
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: then The chargers they're kind of just in this. Range

797
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: where should they be, sixteen, seventeen, Eighteen, no they. Shouldn't

798
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: there should be eighteen teams in the top like. Fourteen

799
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 2: so maybe these teams really should be in the twelve

800
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: to fourteen. Range but we're stuck because the reality is

801
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: some of the teams we've talked, about so we're just

802
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: gonna get hurt and fall, down and the other teams

803
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: will just move up the. Ranks and that's how it will.

804
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 2: Go With. Dallas When Dak prescott's been, healthy they've finished

805
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: top ten offense five of six. Years the problem is

806
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: he's missed at least five games three of the last five.

807
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: SEASONS i don't know If i'm getting him. Healthy the

808
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: line is not what it once, was not even close.

809
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: Anymore AND i don't Like Brian shotenhaimer at. All AND

810
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: i definitely don't like him calling. PLAYS i did not

811
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: mind him scheming some, plays but calling plays is a different.

812
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: Animal he has never been good at. That, HOWEVER i

813
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: do Like Clayton, adams the new offensive, coordinator the run

814
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 2: guy From, arizona AND I Ken, dorsey who's kind of

815
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: the pass coordinator there as. Well SO i don't know. This,

816
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: ultimately can't make up my. Mind if you told Me

817
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: brian shotenhaim we're, Decided i'm. Out i'm just gonna be

818
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: the head. Coach you guys do the. Offense i'd be

819
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: a lot more excited about this, team but we're not

820
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: doing that. Yet, washington It's Cliff. Kingsbury what do we

821
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: do With Cliff, kingsbury who have dumped on for years

822
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: but who was pretty good last year until later in the.

823
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: Season did we kind of hit the Cliff? Cliff as

824
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: the run game started to get a little less, efficient

825
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: the offensive line got a little. Worse, meanwhile they invested

826
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: in the. Line they're Bringing Laromy, Tunsall they're Bringing Deebo

827
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: samuel to catch. PASSES i think they're a team was

828
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: going to surprise. PEOPLE i have them officially bottom half

829
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: of the. League they're, seventeenth so that's just outside the top.

830
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: Half of, COURSE i Love Jane. Daniels we all know

831
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: all the stats about the fourth downs and the crazy.

832
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: Conversions just there were so many things that went right

833
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: For washington to end up so high last. YEAR i

834
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: just there's so much regression coming in a lot of,

835
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: areas and that combined with a little bit of cliff,

836
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: fear just has me sort of in the middle on.

837
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: Them with The, CHARGERS i wasn't really ever excited about this,

838
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: offense but Justin herbert's my number five, quarterback like all

839
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: my other guys that are top, quarterbacks top four is

840
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: all in the top. Ten Where's. Herbert, well he's running

841
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: for his life because Ray Shaan slater is out and

842
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: now have to downgrade the offensive line and have to

843
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: downgrade the whole system from, there who don't really have

844
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: a run game. Yet Despite roman last. Year i'm not

845
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: a big fan Of Greg, roman but the one thing

846
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: he's supposed to do calling plays is give you a run,

847
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: game and they're still below. Average even with. Him they

848
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: went a little more pass heavy on the, Season So

849
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: i'm giving you some optimism, there BUT i don't even

850
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: know IF i can really see a world where this

851
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: gets to even like a top ten. Offense so it's

852
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: it's kind of just stuck in the middle here for.

853
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 2: Me Dallas Washington, CHARGERS i think you said it. Right

854
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: you take these five teams and move three or two

855
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: or three of them like six spots up the, ranks

856
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: SO i look like an, idiot and then two or

857
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: three others like drop down eight spots and we forget about,

858
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: them don't talk about. Anymore halfway through the.

859
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: Season, Yeah cowboys offensive line And chargers Losing slater feels

860
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: like a like If dak doesn't get the ball out

861
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: quick this. Year even Though pickens And lamb on paper

862
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: does look really. NICE i do think the offensive line

863
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: might be an issue there and The, CHARGERS i, Mean

864
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: hampton's gonna have to make a massive impact even Without

865
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: slater on the offensive line OR i feel like they're

866
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: gonna be in even bigger. Trouble AND i think The

867
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,920
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Speaker 3: Fantasy all, Right, brandon it Is tier six time. Now

894
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: if you had those five teams before in the other,

895
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 3: tier these teams aren't even making it into that. Crew

896
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 3: SO i think all of the rest of these tiers

897
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 3: are really they'd be lucky to get into the top.

898
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: Twenty even though we've Got jacksonville at, nineteen The texans at,

899
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: twenty The raiders at twenty, one and The broncos at twenty.

900
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 3: TWO i think The broncos And texans to me are

901
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: the most interesting. Teams but start with THE Afc South Jaguars.

902
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: Texans why Is jacksonville Over houston?

903
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: Here, yeah ALL, afc AND i think the interesting part

904
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: of this tier is which order the two pairs of

905
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: division teams go in So jacksonville And HOUSTON i think

906
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: really quite honestly mirror each other a. Lot Trevor LAWRENCE.

907
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: Cg.

908
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: Stratt are we at top ten? Quarterback are we not

909
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: quite top? Ten where somewhere in that? Range? Okay offensive

910
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: Line nope and. Nope we don't have great blocking on

911
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: either one of these. Teams we got some pretty talented

912
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: receivers we like THE i could use a running. Back

913
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: do we have any running backs on the? Team so

914
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: where DO i choose between? Them i'm gonna choose the

915
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 2: play caller THAT i feel better about And Nick keyley

916
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: And HOUSTON i kind of like. Him i'm kind of,

917
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: excited but we haven't seen it. Yet and it was

918
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: Really Bobby slowik last. YEAR i know everyone dumped on.

919
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: Him everyone's praising him the year, before so it's not

920
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: like he was absolutely awful last. Year there is like

921
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: a floor That Nick keyley has to replace the start.

922
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: WITH i Like Liam cohen a. Lot we saw what he.

923
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: Did all those stats he gave For Tampa bay last,

924
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: year top, five top, seven all those. Things That's Liam.

925
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: Cohen so this to, me by one spot is If

926
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: i'm gonna have to bet between these teams, offensively you, know,

927
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: Defensively i'm Taking, houston no question about. It we'll get

928
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 2: to our. Defense our next episode offensively gave Me cohen

929
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: Over Nick. Kayley BUT i think it's. CLOSE i think it's.

930
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: Interesting these are the two teams in The, south.

931
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: So i'm gonna pinpoint On houston. Here SO i think

932
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 3: it's a question of Which houston offense we. Get here's

933
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: the STATS i wanted to kind of dive, into which WAS.

934
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: Cj stroud in his first. Year here's what he did

935
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: in the first half of. Games thirteen, touchdowns two, picks

936
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: one hundred and two passer. Rating second half in his

937
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: first year ten, touchdowns three, picks ninety nine passer rating very,

938
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 3: consistent very. Good everything looked. Great now let's look at last.

939
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: Year first half thirteen and six in terms of touchdown,

940
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: interceptions ninety, four passer rating, great and The texans went

941
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: thirteen and four against the first half. Spread in the

942
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: second half of GAMES. Cj stroud seven, touchdowns six, picks

943
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: and seventy eight passer. Rating they went four and thirteen

944
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: second half ats last, year so that was the biggest

945
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 3: issue in the second half of. GAMES i felt like

946
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 3: they kind of dropped, off and there were some weeks

947
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: where the offense didn't even show up at. All so

948
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 3: the question is is what offense In houston do you

949
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: think we're getting this? Year? Now there were some on

950
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: off stats With Nico collins people were looking into and. Etc.

951
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: Etc And Tank dell things to look into in the

952
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 3: office to try to figure it. Out BUT i kind

953
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: of Like jacksonville more Than houston as. Well and there's

954
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure On Caleb williams for number one.

955
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: Picks there's also a ton of pressure On Trevor Trevor.

956
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: Lawrence so to, ME i like the nineteen twenty, here

957
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: AND i Think houston could even drop. Further but let's.

958
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: Go let's go to the next Division Raiders BRONCOS a

959
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: twenty one twenty two kind of talk about how you're

960
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 3: divvying them.

961
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: Up, YEAH i think that The broncos, frankly are not

962
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: super interesting to talk. About we kind of expect them

963
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: maybe twentieth in this. RANGE i don't think they have

964
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: a ton of. UPSIDE i do not expect a big

965
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: leap forward for Bo. NICKS i think he leapt to

966
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: being this kind of floor raiser last, year And i'd

967
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: give him some credit for. That it did a little

968
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: better THAN i. Thought their offensive line is. GREAT i

969
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: had them second in my, rankings so that's also a

970
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: floor raising. THING i don't see. CEILING i don't see

971
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: ceiling optional on this. Team they don't have. Weapons they

972
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 2: are number thirty one in my weapons. Rankings among the skill,

973
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: players The raiders have more room for. Growth and granted

974
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: they're starting from further, behind But Gino smith upgrading to

975
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: him from what they had a. Quarterback i'm very High.

976
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: GINO i had him top ten in my. QUARTERBACKS i

977
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: know that that's, surprising but that's a huge improvement from last.

978
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: Year so IS i know they don't, matter but running

979
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: Backs Zamir white was trash last. Year he was so

980
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: bad they could not run the ball to save their.

981
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: Lives now they Have Ashton. Genty the really good running backs,

982
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 2: matter especially if you give it To Chip kelly and

983
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: you have this new run, centric, creative diverse sort of

984
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 2: run game which we expect him to come in. With

985
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: this is not A Pete carroll. Vote i'm high On Pete.

986
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: CARROLL i think this is A Chip kelly. Vote and

987
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: so to, me the ceiling there with The raiders that

988
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: The broncos just can't tap into Because gino can get

989
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: to a ceiling with the deep, ball especially in his.

990
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: Accuracy ashton genty and of course Brock bowers and then

991
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: what Can Chip kelly? Unlock AND i Think Sean, payton

992
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: for all the things he's, done has gotten palatable offense

993
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: out of late. Career Drew brees and Bo nick SO

994
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: i think are relatively similar. Players but The raiders CEILING

995
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: i can get more excited. About and SO i think

996
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: that makes a difference.

997
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: Here, yeah one of these, teams LIKE i feel like

998
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: one of these teams is going to be a little

999
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: bit higher and one of these teams is going to

1000
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: be a little bit. Lower LIKE i don't necessarily feel

1001
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: like they're going to stick in this. Range IS i

1002
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: think they're the expectations will kind of take them in different.

1003
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: Directions denver was twelve and five team total last year

1004
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: to the, Over SO i just think expectations might come

1005
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: down to earth a little bit, there even though some

1006
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 3: people have taken them to win the. Division all, Right tier,

1007
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: seven this is really just project be, average which is twenty,

1008
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 3: three The, patriots twenty, four The steelers twenty, five The

1009
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: panthers and twenty six The. Colts so we're hitting the

1010
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: bottom ten. Here just hit me where you? Got what

1011
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: do you got? Here?

1012
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: YEAH i MEAN i think the title there is the,

1013
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: key BECAUSE i think even the, ceiling even the positive

1014
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: outcome you imagine, here you're probably just getting around, fifteenth

1015
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: twentieth that sort of thing. Here i'm high On, drake

1016
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: may have the temper expectations for the, offense because even

1017
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: my being high On drake may put it into my.

1018
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: Formula AND i still get this kind of like twenty

1019
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: to twenty fifth sort of. Offense And i'm optimistic on

1020
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: the offensive line as. Well but even, THERE i still

1021
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: can't get too far in. This josh McDaniel's Offense. PITTSBURGH

1022
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 2: i feel, like you, know there's another one where a

1023
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: few injured teams maybe bump them up a little. BIT

1024
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: i think this ranking number is unkind To, Pittsburgh Arthur

1025
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 2: smith's offense AS i finished nineteenth and fifteenth the last two,

1026
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: years And Aaron rodgers should be somewhat of a. Floor

1027
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: obviously can't be so. Bad BUT i JUST i we

1028
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: talk about the sum being better than the. PARTS i

1029
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: see the opposite on this. TEAM i don't like anything going.

1030
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: TOGETHER i Think Dk metcalf is a terrible fit For Arthur.

1031
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 2: SMITH i Think Aaron rodgers is a terrible fit For Arthur.

1032
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: Smith they want to, run but the line is young

1033
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 2: and still trying to find its. Way they don't really

1034
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 2: have great runners. THERE i just it just feels all

1035
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: wrong to, Me SO i can't get excited. There carolina And,

1036
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: Indy you're, fine like they're they're going a little. Better,

1037
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: INDY i don't believe has a quarterback, Really Bryce young

1038
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 2: And Dave canalis, Obviously Panthers island was my thing last

1039
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: year And No. Islands, yeah we'll, see maybe they make

1040
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: into the. MIX i think they're. Improving improving doesn't necessarily mean,

1041
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: good and they've been a bottom six pass offense now

1042
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 2: something like six years In. ROL i Think i'm not

1043
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 2: sure that they're ready to change that five. Years, sorry

1044
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: But Bryce young can be improved in maybe a decent,

1045
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: quarterback BUT i don't think he's ready to be a

1046
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: great quarterback. Yet so there's just not a ton of

1047
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: ceiling to tap into.

1048
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah i'm most interested In New. ENGLAND i think

1049
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: they have the highest ceiling in this. GROUP i think

1050
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: The colts would be so much farther up in your

1051
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 3: rankings if they had a good quarterback based off for

1052
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: the rest of their. Offense but without, that they're where

1053
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: they have to. Be and the Note i'm going to

1054
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: give you Is pittsburgh BECAUSE i think it's the most.

1055
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: Interesting So rogers's last two full, seasons he is just

1056
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: fifteen and nineteen to his team total over so expectations

1057
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: a little. Below but the numbers are kind of just the.

1058
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 3: Numbers so sixty, quarterbacks three hundred plus plays those three

1059
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 3: seasons That rogers has played two of he is thirty

1060
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: third AND epa per play PLUS, cpoe thirty first in

1061
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 3: success rate and forty first in air, yards which probably

1062
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: says something a little bit about what the downfield looks.

1063
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: Like he's just, average AND i think just average with

1064
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: this team and with WHERE dk is gonna want the,

1065
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: ball AND i don't think it matches. Up So i'm

1066
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 3: kind of out On, pittsburgh AND i think you're probably

1067
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: about accurate. There all, Right tier, eight don't bother checking

1068
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 3: red zone and god hope they don't show, up which

1069
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 3: would Be seattle at twenty, Seven tennessee at twenty, eight

1070
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: and The jets at twenty. NINE i, think just off the,

1071
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 3: Bat tennessee feels like they have more, upside AND i

1072
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 3: think The jets you're probably accurate. With that's my.

1073
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: Take, yeah not a lot to say about these. TEAMS

1074
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: i think you're right That tennessee has more, upside BUT

1075
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: i think there's more downside. Too i'm not really in

1076
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 2: On Brian callahan And nichole's calling. Plays i've never been

1077
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: A Brian callahan guy out Of, cincinnati so that's gonna

1078
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: be a limit. Factor that's my number thirty two play caller.

1079
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: Ranking Cam. Ward we thought he was A day three

1080
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 2: pick a year, ago so now he becomes a number one.

1081
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: Pick but number one picks lose a lot of games

1082
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: and you'll get the numbers year after, year and he's

1083
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 2: going in to not a great. System the offensive line

1084
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 2: is WHAT i like on this, team Especially Bill. Callahan

1085
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: that's The CALLAHAN i. Like but even if the offensive

1086
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: line improves to above, average, Now i'm not sure Cam

1087
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: ward is the sort of guy that's going to come

1088
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: in and change everything right. Away i'm not sure they're

1089
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: going to be in a great spot. Here they don't

1090
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: have a lot of great skill positions, There SO i

1091
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: think that the upside is still limited, there like the

1092
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: upside ends up being twentieth or twenty. Second, REALLY i

1093
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: have all these three teams almost exactly, equal SO i

1094
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: don't know where to go with. It Sam darnold or

1095
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: eventually Maybe Jalen. Milroe they're gonna get killed behind that

1096
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: line In. Seattle so that's a big worry. There and The,

1097
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 2: JETS i don't. KNOW i kind of Like Tanner engster

1098
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: had the new play color there out of The Ben johnson.

1099
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: Tree if you just told me The jets will literally

1100
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: never pass this season and only run With fields and

1101
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: with the two running, Backs i'd be, like all, right

1102
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: kind of, weird But i'm into. It let's see what happens.

1103
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: Here i'm out On Justin fields. Passing it's, over it's been.

1104
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 2: Over we don't need to find out if he's a.

1105
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: Quarterback he's a great, runner he's not a. Quarterback if

1106
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 2: you don't have a, quarterback you're in the bottom.

1107
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: Five. Yeah here's My Justin field Stat so since twenty twenty,

1108
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 3: Two fields is actually fourteenth in THE nfl in airy

1109
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 3: yards at eight point, three which surprised. Me so no

1110
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: issue throwing the ball down. Field, now of twenty two

1111
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 3: quarterbacks who had an eight plus on air, yards here's

1112
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: the lowest dropback success right of those, Quarterbacks Zach, Wilson Bryce,

1113
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 3: young Will, Levis Anthony, richardson And Justin. Fields AND i

1114
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 3: think that is exactly the company he. Keeps so from

1115
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 3: a passing, perspective The jets Are Garrett wilson's going to

1116
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 3: be frustrated like. That that is exactly what this offense will.

1117
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 3: Be But Braylan allen Breist, hall they'll be able to

1118
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 3: run the ball With fields who could score eight rush.

1119
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: Touchdowns but, again this is offensive, ratings SO i think

1120
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: The jets fit into this. Category, okay last tier. Here,

1121
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 3: now no surprise if you've been, counting there's three teams.

1122
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: Left it is The, giants The, saints and The. Browns

1123
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 3: if you have anything to say on any of these,

1124
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: teams throw it out there and Then i'll give you two. Stats.

1125
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: YEAH i call this the no quarterback no hope. Here

1126
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 2: at some point this, season we're gonna See Tyler. Shuck

1127
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,479
Speaker 2: we're gonna see Probably Shitters sanders and maybe a Little Dylan.

1128
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: Gabriel eventually we're gonna get To Jackson. DART i think

1129
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: that's the scary thing for The. Giants their offense is

1130
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: as good as it's gonna get all year right, now

1131
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: because It's Russell wilson right now who's gonna get benched,

1132
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 2: eventually And Malik Neighbors Andrew thomas are legit good, players

1133
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: but both get hurt a, lot so eventually one or

1134
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: both of those guys will be out just in time

1135
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: For Jackson dart to. Play SO i think that offense

1136
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 2: craters at some. POINT i don't know that they might

1137
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: fall into the crater that The saints And browns live

1138
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: in from the start of the. Season just no hope,

1139
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: here not much to. SAY i think that if this

1140
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: were AN nba, team you would just, say, oh, yeah

1141
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: The browns are. Tanking we know The browns are. Tanking

1142
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: they got other teams leftover. Guys they're just running some

1143
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: bodies out and passing a year by to get a top.

1144
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: Pick we don't really see that in THE. NFL i

1145
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: think we're seeing, it and maybe both of these, Teams

1146
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: browns And, saints they're. Tanking they're trying to. Lose they're

1147
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: getting a real quarterback next year because they do not

1148
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: have one right.

1149
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 3: Now but the difference is that The browns would be

1150
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 3: a really entertaining league pass team and The saints wouldn't be.

1151
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 3: True that is the one THING i will. Say so

1152
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 3: my two stats The, giants this is just ridiculous and

1153
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 3: just a fun. One but since twenty, twenty they are

1154
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: fifty five twenty seven to two to the under in their,

1155
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: Game so we will talk about bad. Offense that's sixty

1156
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 3: seven percent to the under in the regular season since

1157
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one hundred dollars better would be up twenty

1158
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 3: three seventy one just betting The giants. Unders the next

1159
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 3: closest would be The falcons at almost one thousand, bucks

1160
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 3: so thirteen hundred dollars less The giants unders twenty. Twenty

1161
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 3: and Then cleveland just it's really insane the year to.

1162
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 3: Year so last year they went three and fourteen to

1163
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: their team total over barely ever could they exceed. Expectations

1164
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: the year before that they went twelve and five to

1165
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: their team total over best in THE. NFL i think

1166
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: you were going to see a close to three and

1167
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 3: fourteen With cleveland this. Year just ineptitude from week to

1168
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: week depending on who's, starting because they just don't have

1169
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: the weapons and the team behind even if a quarterback

1170
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 3: decided to step. Up that is my. Opinion SO i

1171
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: think you probably nailed. It but let's let's review the

1172
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 3: top ten teams and kind of go in some betting

1173
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: takeaways before we get out of.

1174
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: Here all, Right so top ten on the list we,

1175
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: have where's my list? Here baltimore number, one tier on their,

1176
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: Own buffalo at, Two Green bay, Three San francisco, four

1177
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: and The chiefs at. Five in the next, Tier, Eagles, Vikings,

1178
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: bears And bengals are the six through, nine and then

1179
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: The rams sneak in out of The lions number. Ten

1180
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: so real, quick some betting takeaways for. You offense wins football.

1181
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: Games Real shockrun'm bringing you on that. One sixteen teams

1182
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: obviously make up half of the. League the top sixteen

1183
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: offenses last, year all but one of them won at

1184
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: least eight, games and the one that didn't was The,

1185
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: niners who probably should have won but got a lot

1186
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: of unlock and terrible injury lock in. There twelve of

1187
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: fourteen playoff teams were top. Half Only pittsburgh And houston

1188
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: did not make it into the top half and didn't

1189
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: go very far in the playoffs once they. Did so

1190
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: that's one. Takeaway if you like an, offense you should

1191
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: like them to possibly make the. Playoffs, now huge disparity between.

1192
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: CONFERENCES i noticed in these. Rankings twelve of the top

1193
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: seventeen offenses ARE nfc twelve of, seventeen that's like over seventy.

1194
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 2: Percent so only seven make the playoffs out of twelve

1195
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: and it might not even be those. Twelve that tells, me,

1196
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: OKAY i got to look at the defense for these

1197
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: good offenses and just. Health who got, healthy who had

1198
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: some of the edges? There be careful but some of

1199
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 2: those teams like The, bears like The bird, teams The

1200
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: falcons And. Cardinals be cautious about those, teams but have some.

1201
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: Hope also they're in the, mix but there's a lot

1202
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: of competition versus go over to THE. Afc ELEVEN afc

1203
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: teams end up in the bottom half of the offensive.

1204
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: Rankings that is Why, Buffalo Kansas, city And baltimore feel

1205
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: like they're just coasting right into the. Playoffs because you

1206
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: got top five offenses and then that's Three all but

1207
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: two other teams in the conference are in the bottom

1208
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: half of the offensive. Rankings so maybe The bengals are

1209
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: equally that, safe because if you think that they're nine LIKE,

1210
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: ivy or if you think they're maybe top, five maybe

1211
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: they're in that mix as well as a very safe.

1212
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: Team that's. It that's the only teams ON afc in

1213
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: my top four tiers of the. Offenses so on the flip,

1214
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: side if you like an offense that's not one of those,

1215
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: four there's a lot of mobility for sleepers, here. Right

1216
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: so maybe you like The, raiders maybe you Like Chip

1217
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: kelly and those, Pieces maybe you like The, jaguars who

1218
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: we talked. About whoever your team, is if you like

1219
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: one THE afc, offense if you can jump up the,

1220
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: rankings there's a lot more mobility. There and then a

1221
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 2: couple other notes, here just on some. Divisions a couple

1222
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 2: worries in the division and THE Nfc. North The lions

1223
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: are my bottom ranked, offense not by, much and they're

1224
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: still just outside the top, ten but that should be a.

1225
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: Concern bigger CONCERN i may not be In Seattle island this.

1226
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: Year The seahawks are number twenty seven. Offensively the entire

1227
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: rest of THE Nfcu west is top. Twelve that is

1228
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: a monster, disparity and you're not just hoping one good offense.

1229
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: Falls seattle defense should be, great but that's not going

1230
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: to be able to close the gap between three other

1231
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: really better. Offenses that's. Trouble hope for a couple other

1232
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 2: divisions to wrap up, here hope in The south, right

1233
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: The south divisions are always giving hope for. Everybody THE

1234
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 2: Nfc south does have The falcons And bucks out, ahead

1235
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: but both of those are pretty wide. Variants we talked

1236
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: about With Michael, pennix talked about with The werfs and

1237
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: With baker and the new play. CALLER i have them

1238
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: kind of seventh to twenty, second so wide range of,

1239
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: outcomes bigger than most. Teams maybe that leaves some hope

1240
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: for The panthers or heaven, forbid The. Saints and in

1241
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: THE Afc, south there's just no great. Offense we talked

1242
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: About jaguars And. Texans they're nineteenth and. Twentieth that's the

1243
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: top of the. Division because after that The colts and The,

1244
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: titans they're not that far off from those. Teams so

1245
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: maybe you're right About titans upside and even if they

1246
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: get up to, twentieth that could lead the, division and

1247
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: that might be enough to steal a bad, Division so

1248
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: you got, to you, know take context into accountant you're

1249
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: making those division bets this, year and you know with

1250
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: the lines with The, seahawks show some caution with some

1251
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: of those sleepers you like in either one of The south.

1252
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: Divisions we love Ours south. Sleepers offenses should tell you

1253
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: that you can continue to love them there too and

1254
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: find AN afc sleeper not AN nfc. ONE i feel

1255
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: going for.

1256
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 3: Offense, YEAH i agree with The south. TEAMS i think

1257
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: THE Afc south just open for. Business are we going

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