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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goals Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network off location, back in our palacious studio estate.

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Speaker 2: Weshulerve Matt Williamson with you here for the next two hours. Matt,

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Speaker 2: Indy in the books, Combine in the Books. It was

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Speaker 2: a fun week last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels good to be home, but it was

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Speaker 3: kind of freezing today. All of a sudden, it was

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Speaker 3: so nice when I came home, was warm, and now

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Speaker 3: it's like, man, it's freezing again. I had a blasting

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Speaker 3: call in Indy though, too. I mean even more so

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Speaker 3: enjoyed the guests, the content, the chats with you guys

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Speaker 3: than maybe any year I can remember. I thought we

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Speaker 3: pumped out a lot of good stuff and found a

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Speaker 3: lot of good people and really good conversations too.

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Speaker 2: I concur every year we have some we have some fun,

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Speaker 2: get some fun guests. It's always it's just a different

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Speaker 2: kind of change of pace from what we typically do.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to go outside and grab Daneler and be like, hey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, but man, you're right. Uh. I tried in

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Speaker 2: my notes here jotting them all down, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: I forgot some, but Q Meyers, Dane Brugler, Kyle Krabs,

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Speaker 2: Travis May, Matt Harmon, Matt Taylor, Uh, Chris Halleck, Chris Carter,

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Speaker 2: both local guys, Brian mcfatt and Greg Cosell, Nate Tice twice, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Thor Nistrom, Fran Dumfy, Trevor Sikima, Alan Saunders, Jeff Legwald. Wow,

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Speaker 2: but I might that's a huge list, and.

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Speaker 3: That might be doubled our average.

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Speaker 2: From national people. There's a Colts person in there, there's

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Speaker 2: a Broncos person in there, there's a Vikings person in there,

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Speaker 2: raiders Yeah, with with with Q. So, I mean that

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Speaker 2: was it was again we normally get some great guests,

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Speaker 2: but it felt like last week was even more so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I urge him. All that stuff's very organic too,

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Speaker 3: goes John Legard.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, formerly of this pair.

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Speaker 3: There's another good one. Yeah. I urge everyone to go

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Speaker 3: back and check it out if you haven't. TV did

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Speaker 3: a great job with a lot of the video as well,

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Speaker 3: and also had pursuit of there for his first time,

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Speaker 3: Rob there for a second time. That was fun, but

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Speaker 3: all those interviews hold up in a big way.

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Speaker 2: If you were confused in your Drive combine feed because

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Speaker 2: I think, well, I think what happened was I think

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Speaker 2: all if I'm if I'm correct here, I believe all

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Speaker 2: the shows that we did were uploaded into our Drive

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Speaker 2: podcast feed. Oh okay, so all of a sudden, people

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Speaker 2: are getting like, our numbers are gonna be up. Our

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Speaker 2: numbers are going to be up. People are getting like

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Speaker 2: eight hours and some of it is you and I,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of it is other people too. But

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Speaker 2: it's all in there. If you want to go back

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Speaker 2: and look, it's all on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Like officially the last three hours were the drive, yes,

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Speaker 3: you know, but that's most right, so on a lot, so.

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Speaker 2: Only three of the eight hours were officially the drive.

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Speaker 2: But everything is in there, all those great guests, all

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Speaker 2: that great conversation, a lot of national stuff, a lot

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Speaker 2: of Steelers stuff, a lot of you know, just different

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Speaker 2: where are the colts going with their quarterback situation? And yeah,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about this in Denver? In those

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Speaker 2: different things. So it was it was a great week.

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Speaker 2: Happy to be home though, and now Matt.

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Speaker 3: Your birthday over the weekend too, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am now. I am now thirty five years young.

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Speaker 2: As we had a nice, nice little Saturday down in Morgantown.

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Speaker 2: Basketball team got a ranked win, which is always nice nice.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so I'm uh, wasn't the from a.

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Speaker 3: I told you my daughter's touring there a week from

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Speaker 3: today too, so maybe I'll be wearing war you never know.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'd love to get you down there for

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Speaker 2: a tailgate in the fall. I think you'd enjoy yourself

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind if she stayed pretty close. So I

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Speaker 3: used that as a selling point. I'm like, I bet

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Speaker 2: You might know some people that know some people. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: like all day Saturday in the morning, I was like,

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Speaker 2: and sleeping in a hotel again. But the sun was shining.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome. Bunch of my bunch of my buds

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Speaker 3: Friday takes a lot out of you. The combine because

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Speaker 3: the last day and you just go straight radio jump

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Speaker 3: straight week, yes, straight home.

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Speaker 2: Like we do, like five hours of radio and then

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Speaker 2: We got to drop equipment here and then get home

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Speaker 2: and all that stuff. So it is it's a wild week.

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Speaker 2: This week will be a little bit slower, and then

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Speaker 2: it'll be a wild one again next week because free

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Speaker 2: actually see.

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Speaker 3: The wildest week of the year next week.

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Speaker 2: It is very particularly Wednesday is is.

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Speaker 3: Always Monday, because that's the legal.

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Speaker 2: They don't call it that, they call it the negotiating window.

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Speaker 2: This is what they call it now if I'm remembering correctly.

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Speaker 2: But yes, it'll it'll all start happening here pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, next week will be nots I would think

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Speaker 3: this week's a lot of combine recovery and and what

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Speaker 3: did we learn there a lot of different position groups

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Speaker 3: and all that good stuff. But we got to start

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Speaker 3: talking about free agents to be the league started today,

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Speaker 3: well not even started today, but there were a couple

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Speaker 3: of little trades, not even little trades, but there's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a lot of cuts and restructure procedural stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna see a lot of headlines come across as

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Speaker 3: this whole week to prepare for the new league.

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Speaker 2: Year, and we will actually, you know what, our number

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Speaker 2: two will kind of kick that off with a like

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Speaker 2: a News of the Day segment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, because there's always gonna be a little bit.

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Speaker 2: There have been some trades and some tinkering here already

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Speaker 2: in the last last day or so. But I think

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Speaker 2: you're right. I think we should start with combine stuff thoughts, winners, losers,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff we can get into. But Matt, just big,

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Speaker 2: your mind? What's something your biggest combine takeaway? I guess

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Speaker 2: maybe something that you thought about differently, something that you realized,

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Speaker 3: like Aaron Rodgers is gonna be the quarterback. I feel

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Speaker 3: I don't think Ramsey or Queen are gonna be cap casualties,

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Speaker 3: I think that opens like sixteen million between the three

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Speaker 3: of them. All makes perfect sense. But all in all,

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Speaker 3: not a lot of Steeler stuff that came out last

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Speaker 3: week that was like whooh, I mean other teams there

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Speaker 3: be very much in the wide receiver market. My biggest

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Speaker 3: like workout takeaway though, is I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: However a year after a lot of them set records

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Speaker 3: And I do think that's a fast track. People need

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Speaker 3: if you look, less and less guys did drills, and

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Speaker 3: of three hundred and seventeen, don't quote me guys that

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Speaker 2: It's very weird to me. So I'm glad you said this,

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Speaker 2: because when I think of combine takeaways, I immediately go

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Speaker 2: You and I joke a lot about how football sports

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Speaker 2: in general, they're cyclical. Right, line up in the power

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Speaker 3: And coverages and all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Right, And I think now that we are about twenty

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Speaker 2: ish years into everybody really taking this combine seriously.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's on network and all.

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Speaker 2: The primetime and made for TV event, now, I think

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Speaker 2: there's some cyclical nature happening with the combine. Whereas it

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Speaker 2: started as purely a medical thing, like let's get these

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Speaker 2: most thorough medical evaluation these guys will ever have in

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we find out things they never knew around We.

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Speaker 2: See it every year. Someone has a heart problem they

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Speaker 2: And then it was like, we might as well interview

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Speaker 3: Run, let me do something.

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Speaker 2: We might as well have them jump.

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Speaker 2: Wait, well, there's a bunch of media coming out here.

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Speaker 2: We might as well have them do media stuff, you

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Speaker 2: know now, instead of doing it at ten thirty in

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Speaker 2: the morning, and let's put it in primetime and make

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Speaker 2: it them for TV event.

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Speaker 3: You may not have caught this, but just the first

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Speaker 3: time we sat down with Greg Cosel, you weren't You

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Speaker 3: weren't with us, and you were mad at me. But

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Speaker 3: gonna get him twice.

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Speaker 2: It's like, man, how are you gonna get him outside

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Speaker 3: But Greg now basically just watch his tape and he

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Speaker 3: does the matchup show. But back then he was in

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Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, but we couldn't let anyone know the times,

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Speaker 3: secret stuff, like you can put it on, but don't

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Speaker 3: tell him how fast they ran. Like so he's like

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Speaker 3: it was the hardest job ever, Like that wasn't that

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Speaker 2: It's like, that's like us doing shows at OTA's in

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Speaker 2: happening now in front of us. Yeah, so it went

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Speaker 2: let's have him throw, let's have him run, let's have

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Speaker 2: him jump, let's have him do media stuff. I think

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Speaker 2: When my wife hears how we live in Indianapolis, like

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Speaker 2: every single day. Plenty more from Indianapolis between the white lines.

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Speaker 2: What we saw with the players, the results, the takeaways,

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we are. It's a

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Speaker 2: It all happens very quickly this time of year. You

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Speaker 3: This year more than ever.

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Speaker 4: college football right now.

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Speaker 2: But that's a different conversation for a different day. We

438
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Speaker 2: are kind of downloading all of our combined thoughts and

439
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Speaker 2: takeaways here in the first hour. Matt, I liked where

440
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Speaker 2: you started. I feel more confident that it will be

441
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers as the Steelers quarterback, and I think that

442
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 2: decision will come sometime here in the month of March.

443
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be ota as you

444
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Speaker 3: find out right.

445
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Speaker 2: I would be surprised if we got to April and

446
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 2: there was still uncertainty around Aaron Rodgers.

447
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Speaker 3: I agreed, agree, I.

448
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Speaker 2: Agree with what you said about Jalen Ramsey. I think

449
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 2: they want to use him in the role that they

450
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Speaker 2: pictured when they brought him in here last year, which

451
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: is kind of that Nickel you know, slot, big slot,

452
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 2: big Nickel type guy. And credit to him. I mean

453
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 2: it was not always pretty last year, but man, his

454
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Speaker 2: versatility inside outside safety. He was everywhere center field, in

455
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Speaker 2: the box, you know, played a ton of snaps, all

456
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Speaker 2: over the place. I don't think he's going I.

457
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Speaker 3: Did a podcast about the Saturdays. I didn't learn this

458
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 3: till two days ago or whatever, but Pro Football Focus

459
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 3: put out the five most versatile defenders in the league

460
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Speaker 3: last year.

461
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Speaker 2: I bet he was number one, just based off of

462
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Speaker 2: their alignments. Yeah, yeah, that would not surprise.

463
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it was like four or five different

464
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Speaker 3: spots where he had one hundred plus now you know,

465
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Speaker 3: which totally adds up.

466
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Speaker 2: And so I'm not saying that he completely lived up

467
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Speaker 2: the expectations last year, but I think when you recalibrate

468
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Speaker 2: based off of the they didn't use him the way

469
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Speaker 2: that we thought they were going to last year.

470
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Speaker 3: A lot of stuff he was asked more than any

471
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Speaker 3: defensive player in the league.

472
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Speaker 2: With a new team, new coordinator, new system, all that stuff,

473
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: I think that they're hoping he will stabilize in a

474
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Speaker 2: specific role this year. And so I'm with you on

475
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Speaker 2: those things. Patrick Queen too, I'd be surprised if this.

476
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Speaker 3: If you caught Nate Heights said this too, which I

477
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Speaker 3: thought was well said, and it's something we've brought up too,

478
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Speaker 3: and probably all the Steeler fans listening. No, but he's

479
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Speaker 3: like say, we wanted about Ramsey at free he really

480
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: stabilized things, you know, like he thought that was a

481
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 3: line of demarcation in the defense of when he was

482
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Speaker 3: a full time safety verse beforehand, just in terms of

483
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Speaker 3: communication and fewer errors and things like that. And that's

484
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Speaker 3: something we talked about during the course of the year, like, yeah,

485
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 3: the safety situation is a lot firmer than it was.

486
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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean to keep it there or not, but

487
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Speaker 3: just I'm just praising Ramsey a little bit more.

488
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Speaker 2: Here's a combine specific takeaway that I have for you.

489
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Speaker 2: We drove to Indianapolis Monday morning. Uh yeah, a little

490
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Speaker 2: over a little over a week ago from today. I

491
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 2: was ardent. I was very convinced the Steelers are going

492
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Speaker 2: to take a wide receiver at twenty one. Yes, Mike

493
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: McCarthy is gonna move this offense into the twenty first century. Sure,

494
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of it's gonna be way

495
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: more three wide and way less twelve and thirteen personnel.

496
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Speaker 2: You only have three wide receivers on the roster right now,

497
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Speaker 2: and one of them is unproven Roman Wilson, and the

498
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: other guy is a Pro Bowl special teamer who belongs

499
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Speaker 2: on your roster, but tells everybody, don't call me a

500
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Speaker 2: wide receiver, call that football player.

501
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Speaker 3: So you got that happened, Really nothing else that you

502
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Speaker 3: can count on.

503
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Speaker 2: And with all that, it's a deep wide receiver class,

504
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 2: one that doesn't necessarily have the blue chip nailed on

505
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 2: top five pick that guy with the steels. Weren't getting

506
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: that guy anyways, And there's a lot to like in

507
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: this class besides that. You know Jamar Chase type, neighbors

508
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: type walking right into your lineup. I'm like, it's gonna

509
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: be wide receiver at twenty one. Yeah, the real question

510
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: is what they do in the second round, you know

511
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: Whereas now, I still if this, if we're in Las

512
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Speaker 2: Vegas or we're down at the River's Casino and this

513
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 2: is a roulette table, I'm still putting my chip on

514
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 2: wide receiver for the first round. But it doesn't pay

515
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: as well, it doesn't yet Its better now, Yeah, I'm

516
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: not as convinced. I still will. I still would probably

517
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 2: say that's the most likely scenario. But I think defensive

518
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 2: line is a real possibility. I think secondary particularly safety

519
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: is a real possibility.

520
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Speaker 3: Demon's a real possibility.

521
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 2: And I think offensive line is even an outside possibility.

522
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Speaker 3: I do too. I think there's a lot of options there.

523
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 3: I'm still very sold. And again, no one told me

524
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Speaker 3: this that there will be a substantial veteran added before

525
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: the draft, whether that's next week or when gets cut

526
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: or you trade somebody or whatever it is. Brian Thomas,

527
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think they will add somebody

528
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 3: soon that you've all heard of and bet on your

529
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: fantasy teams, you know, And that's a good start. Plus

530
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: just watching this the combine, there's more guys I like. Yeah,

531
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Speaker 3: I mean on Day two at receiver too. Like if

532
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Speaker 3: you don't go round one and you go into the

533
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Speaker 3: draft with Metcalf and Dobbs or Metcalf and Ayuk or

534
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: something like that, I can wait for the second round.

535
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Speaker 3: I don't know that I'm gonna wait to the third,

536
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 3: but I probably wouldn't. I probably. I've said this all offseason.

537
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 3: I think they need to add three receivers and one

538
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: of them is probably like a fifth round pick, and

539
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 3: two of them need to be investments, you know, day

540
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Speaker 3: round one, Round two or and a name we.

541
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Speaker 2: Know, yes, and then maybe even bring in a fifth

542
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Speaker 2: round guy too.

543
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean is the third guy can

544
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Speaker 3: be my fifth round speed dude that needs work, that's

545
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Speaker 3: a returner of the Yeah.

546
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Speaker 2: Or two picks in the fourth rounds. Yeah, yeah, two

547
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Speaker 2: picks in the sixth round.

548
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Speaker 3: I mean, you could go second and third round in

549
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Speaker 3: this class. But there's a lot of them, and a

550
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: lot of guys showed well at the combine, some of

551
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Speaker 3: the smaller school guys that we didn't know as well,

552
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: Lance and the dude at Cincinnati, et cetera that had

553
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: really good weeks.

554
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Speaker 2: So that was a big one for me, thinking wide receiver,

555
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: wide receiver, wide receiver, and I still think that's a

556
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: great possible. But I think there's going to be some

557
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: defensive linemen they'll be interested in.

558
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.

559
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: I don't think Caleb Banks, big boy out of Florida,

560
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: is going to be available after what he just did

561
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Speaker 2: this past week.

562
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Speaker 3: I don't love doing mock drafts, no offense. I did

563
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: want Steelers dot Com and I don't mind them.

564
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: You and I will probably do one this week, and

565
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Speaker 2: but I'm kind of.

566
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Speaker 3: Looking forward to the next one because I keep saying, well,

567
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: Banks isn't going to be available. This guy's not gonna

568
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Speaker 3: be available. All these tackles are better than had a

569
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: good conversation a my podcast, Like Freeling's not going to

570
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Speaker 3: be there. Yeah, like all these guys that were mocked

571
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Speaker 3: later than twenty.

572
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: One, like Banks and Freeling.

573
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, it's easy to say they're not going

574
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: to be there, but only twenty guys are getting picked

575
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: before twenty one. You know, it starts to be a

576
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Speaker 3: math issue.

577
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: Yes, and maybe that's maybe in a way that's good

578
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: for the Steelers.

579
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 3: That's what kind of where I'm going with this, more.

580
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: Wide receiver options, more safety, defensive back options.

581
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Speaker 3: I'd be thrilled with any of these five guys, and

582
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: three of them are.

583
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: There, right, you know, that's that's the that's the ideal scenario.

584
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: And maybe it's Arizona State receiver because he hasn't worked

585
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 3: out Jordan Ticon. Yeah yeah right, like I never thought

586
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: he had any chance at that guy a month ago.

587
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I that that's certainly a lot of the defensive

588
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: tackles and offensive linemen that we thought were going to

589
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: go after the Steelers, like in picks twenty two to

590
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Speaker 2: thirty two, you know, like like bottom bottom of the

591
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 2: first round, especially the tackles.

592
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Speaker 3: I think they did they move freeling or I killed

593
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Speaker 3: his name, but I always do all those.

594
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: Dude, Caleb Caden Proctor out of Alabama.

595
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a good showing too.

596
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, anackles go early, tackles go early. And I think

597
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: I still don't know how many defensive linemen, but I

598
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: think Caleb Banks is yeah, yeah, and so some of

599
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: that is good for the Steelers. Some of that is

600
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: bad for the Steelers, but it's it's certainly there's always movement.

601
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: There's always movement in this past week.

602
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: And I also and Tate didn't blow it up. Tyson

603
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: didn't do anything, you know, like I'm just hold keep

604
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: my fingers crossed. One of those threes there, well, they

605
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 3: might be.

606
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Speaker 2: They they certainly, they certainly could be. I'd be shocked

607
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: if there weren't at least two wide receivers off the

608
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: board by the time the Steelers picked. But maybe it's

609
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: Boston instead of one of those three, you know, maybe

610
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: there's some some still some change to be had there.

611
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, concept could go by that absolutely.

612
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: I also too, man, pick pick number two feels wide

613
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: open for me. I still feel like it. I still

614
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: feel like it's r VL Reese.

615
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: I lean that way pretty strong.

616
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: But man, okay, so I pulled this for you and he's.

617
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: Because of the trade. Is wilean that way.

618
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: They they traded an edge guy for a nose. That's

619
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: a very good point.

620
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: But they could take Bailey.

621
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: Bailey is so Bailey and Ruben Bain are both the

622
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: other two?

623
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Speaker 3: You know?

624
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: Is I when when we have these type of conversations,

625
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: I like to just look at the audiens.

626
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: Did you check the odds? Yeah?

627
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: R VL Reese minus one twenty so he's a favorite,

628
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: but not a massive favorite. Yeah, David Bailey plus one

629
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: thirty five so not too far off. Ruben Bain Junior

630
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: plus six hundred, and then everybody else's is into the thousands.

631
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: Caleb Down, Sunny Styles, Ty Sipson, Kada McDonald, Kenya, and Sadik.

632
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: Bain's arm thing can't help him though some teams, but

633
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: they play basically at three to four, and he's going

634
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: to be kind of a stand up guy, so it

635
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: might matter a little less.

636
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I I'm very interested to see what happens

637
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: with the Jets there too, because it just it feels

638
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: like there's so much certainty around pick number one, and

639
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: then after that, I certainly would lean turned towards RVL Reese.

640
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: But I think there's I mean, there's still so much

641
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: time between now and then, and I don't know, are

642
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 2: you concerned about his size at all? Just like mass

643
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: of RVL Reese to play that position a little bit,

644
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: he can get an NFL.

645
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: But he's also extremely young, and I think you know,

646
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: he's a safety turned linebacker turned edge basically. And I

647
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: get the impression with his length. And I know this

648
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: sounds weird, but when they walk across the stage and

649
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: just their underwear that that's kind of what you're looking

650
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: at his body composition and bone mass and they go

651
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 3: in like the bod pod when the or in the

652
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: medical stuff just you know, to see his density and.

653
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: All that time.

654
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I do think he can add ten I

655
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: mean he's only like twenty years old. I mean almost

656
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: everybody does. He's gonna add a little bit of bulk

657
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 3: and just you know, grown man weight. You know, yes,

658
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: u aside.

659
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: I lost weight, baby, I used to be a balmy

660
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 2: one ninety.

661
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: I make this mistake every year because after the combine,

662
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: you get excited. All these guys are going up, no

663
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 3: one's going back. You know, look all these tackles are

664
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: gonna go high blah blah blah, and that is mostly true.

665
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: But I think Sony Sonny Styles cool and Love it

666
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: might be two of the best three players in the draft.

667
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't see them falling far. Like if

668
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: you told me that they the Jets took Styles, I'd

669
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: be like, I get it, you know, right, Or if

670
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: Tennessee's like, we're just gonna take Julian Love and put

671
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: the next award, I get it. Okay, yeah, right right,

672
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: He's awesome.

673
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: The man. Some of the yeah, some of those guys,

674
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: some of those running backs and linebackers, They're test stuff

675
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: was just off the charts impressive. And you know what,

676
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: let's take a break here.

677
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: Let's I love the safety testing, which I think that's

678
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: gonna be really prominent for the Steelers too. They really

679
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: have one safety under contract too. It's kind of like

680
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: the wider steer position.

681
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: Let's go there when we return. Let's let's take a

682
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: break here now so we can give that plenty of conversation,

683
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: because I know you came away from the combine impressed

684
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: by the safeties. Yeah, I think we really really like

685
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: Dylan Thennemon out of out of Oregon.

686
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: Couple gonna make it the twenty one. Only twenty guys

687
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: are getting picked before twenty one, right.

688
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh spoiler alert, there's gonna be plenty of offensive

689
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: tackles and edge rushers that are taking and those top

690
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: twenty as always, so let's uh, let's take our last

691
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: break here the first hour, talk some safeties, talk some

692
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: more of these standouts, maybe even some people who might

693
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: have hurt their stock a little bit this past week

694
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, to kind of put a bow on the

695
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: uh the Combine Takeaways hour here on this Monday on

696
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: the Drive, WESH alert, Matt Williamson rolling along here and

697
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: some Combine conversation. It's the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on

698
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: this Deelers Audio Network, your tunes.

699
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

700
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

701
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: Back from Indianapolis, downloading our thoughts, our takeaways from the

702
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six scouting Combine. Big thanks to everybody out

703
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 2: there and Indy for having us. As always, it's our

704
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: spiritual home for the end of February.

705
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: It's great week every year and this was as good

706
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: as ever.

707
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts. We were calling down,

708
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: we were calling him the mayor of the mayor of

709
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: Radio Rows. Everybody all right, kind enough to have us

710
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: every single year. He's a great dude. We also Matt

711
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: after a year of being passed over, Oh got the

712
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: shrimp being put in the corner. Nobody puts Steelers Nation

713
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: Radio and the Steelers Audio Network in the corner. We

714
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: got our shrimp on Radio Row. It was fantastic.

715
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: Part of the reason we got so many good guests

716
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: is because where we were located were washing. I'm like, hey,

717
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: hop on, we were way depths of before.

718
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: We had a We had a pretty awesome location. This

719
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: year we got we got our our Saint almost shrimp

720
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: cocktail that we did not get last year. Big shout

721
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: out the TV actually knowing my luck. So I went to.

722
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: Go to take credit for that. I reach over to him,

723
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: I'm like.

724
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, appreciate camera.

725
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah he would have anyways.

726
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure he would. Yeah, because of course I have

727
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: I have like an hour break and I'm like, I'm

728
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: gonna go grab I'm gonna go grab some lunch and

729
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: use the bathroom and everything. And TV texts me and

730
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: he's like, you just missed the shrimp, and I was like,

731
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: you gotta be. I was like, I only leave of

732
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: the of like the nine hours that were on radio row.

733
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 2: I only leave for like an hour every day. And

734
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: that's when they bring the shrimp. And then he's like,

735
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: sends me a picture. He's like, but I got you one.

736
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: Don't worry.

737
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: I think that was Rob's first chance, first time you

738
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: ever had it.

739
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: Did you have smoke? Smoke coming out white?

740
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: Warn them? I'm like, we gotta eat the whole thing

741
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: at once. Yeah. Yeah, And he's like, as everybody does. Right.

742
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: I used to tell you and day this. But you

743
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: can buy the Saint Elmo's shrimp cocktail sauce, have it

744
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: the fridge.

745
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: But it just doesn't seem the same to me. I

746
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: would say, it's good, like I put it out of

747
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: Christmas and I don't tell people.

748
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: It's your party. Like yeah, It's like it's like it's

749
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: like Guinness in Dublin.

750
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: Right right, Maybe part of it's just in my head.

751
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: But you can also you can find if Guinness in

752
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: Dublin is a ten out of ten, you can find

753
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: nine out of ten Guinness around here.

754
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so this so the.

755
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: Saint almost cocktail sauce that you can get a grocery

756
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: stores around here. You can order it on the line.

757
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: It's like an eight out of ten. It's still really

758
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: really good. Yeah, Like I know, I would tell you

759
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: and Dale this in the past when I would have

760
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: those times, like during the winter allergy season where your

761
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: sinuses are acting up, sometimes I would just like eat

762
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: like two spoonfuls of that and it would clear. It

763
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: would clear me out like fifteen minutes. So it was great.

764
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: Cooped up too much?

765
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, great to uh great to get back to Indie.

766
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: We had an awesome week. We got some shrimp cocktail

767
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: out of it. We had some really good meals, some

768
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: really good some good times. Pursuit and I went to

769
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: a basketball game.

770
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Michigan State one. He was also he.

771
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: Sure was the PURSUITA realized that Michigan State was playing Purdue,

772
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: which was not too far away from where we were,

773
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: and so he went and got tickets and him and

774
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 2: I went and it was it was a good time.

775
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: Was a good week. And Matt, I think one of

776
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: the biggest takeaways, you know, we're continuing to just kind

777
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: of just share thoughts and observations and everything we learned

778
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 2: last week. I think that this safety class is exceptional. Yeah,

779
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: I think those I think those top three guys. You know,

780
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 2: we mentioned Dylan Thinneman in the previous segment. Everybody knows

781
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs or at least you better by this point.

782
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: And then the third being McNeil Warren out of Toledo.

783
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: I think those three are going in the first round.

784
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: I do too, and there could be could be potential

785
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: for one of them to be a Steeler at picked

786
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: twenty one.

787
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: I've got nothing against McNeil Warren at all, although Ledyard

788
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: made a really crazy observation that I went back and

789
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: looked at and say about that in a minute. I

790
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 3: just greatly prefer them in for this Steelers because Elliott's

791
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: more strong and.

792
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: And he's more free.

793
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

794
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: Warren's more strong.

795
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a little more redundant than I would like.

796
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: And I don't know, and teams are getting away from

797
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 3: free strong. I mean this is not Donnie Shell and

798
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: Mike Wagner. I mean, like times have changed a lot,

799
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: and a lot of the teams were interchangeable. But I

800
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: don't think you want another strong ish guy, especially if

801
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: you're using a first round pick. I mean, if it's

802
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: your fourth round pick, too great. But anyway, Ledger brought

803
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: this up, and I went back and just watched a

804
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: bunch of his highlights. Just like it's John crazy, but

805
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: he has McNeil. Warren has this crazy infatuation I'll say,

806
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: with playing with his gear like up and too and

807
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 3: even through the snap he's like fixing his helmet. It's

808
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 3: like OCD stuff. Once you see it, you can't you

809
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: can't stop, you can't look at John mentioned this. He's like,

810
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: there's a play where he's fixing his helmet deep into

811
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: the snap and takes on a block with one arm

812
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: instead of two because he's fiddling with his helmet.

813
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: That's not going to work at the NFL level.

814
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: It can't tell me Toledo can't find a helmet that

815
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: fits him. I mean, I think it's him, not them. Yeah,

816
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: you know, like he's always I think he's just jittery

817
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: and like it's like a nervous tick type things.

818
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: Like me doing a show, you know, just moving around

819
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: the whole time and shaking bob and hands and yeah,

820
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 2: it happens.

821
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: So I did this podcast I mentioned I did the

822
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: kind of a safety podcast over the weekend. Because I

823
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: was really impressed with the class. It's really deep. They

824
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: all ran and tested very very well, even outside those

825
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: top three. And there's some free agents i'd be interested.

826
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 3: But the Steelers safety situations more like the receiver one

827
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: than you think. I mean, if we don't count Ramsey

828
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: as a safety, and I understand he has the possiblity,

829
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: you know, the possibility to always go back there in

830
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: mid season. You've Elliott, right, you have Elliott and Castro

831
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: are the only two under now, Douggers up, Killer Brew's up.

832
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: Y have the Killer Brew uh score, Scott scronic, you

833
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: know parallel, you really have one safety on your team.

834
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: You want to you want at least five going in

835
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: the camp. If you only keep four, you're you're gonna

836
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: take safety. You probably might draft two safeties and sign one.

837
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't mind bringing Doug or back or Pepper's

838
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: or Clark, one of those, one of those to be

839
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: the backup strong. But it's a huge need as the

840
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: roster is currently constructed like that. Could be their first

841
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: free agent signing, could be you know, Cook from the

842
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 3: I always get their names too crossed up. The Colts

843
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: have one in the Chiefs have a guy both coming off.

844
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 2: Free agent or twenty six seven.

845
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kobe Bryanton name that they are. Rob brought up

846
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: one hundred times too. You know, like there's three or

847
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 3: four safeties of interest that are young that would fit

848
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: the bill, that are more free ish. You know, they

849
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: could do that early in free agency. Maybe they have none.

850
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: That's something we could talk about in more detail tomorrow. Yeah,

851
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: because that's one Listen, the Steelers are gonna need bodies

852
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: in the secondary, not just as safety, but at corner

853
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: as well.

854
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: Right, Pierre and Samuel aren't on this team right now.

855
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: There's a lot of those, as you just described, second

856
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 2: contract guys who aren't going to break the bank. You're

857
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: not gonna get him for free, but they're not going

858
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: to break There are a lot of safeties and corners

859
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: coming up here in just a week. There are that

860
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: are twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight years old and

861
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: would would be ideal fits to that need.

862
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: And so that's a that's a good place. It's done.

863
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: It's the same defensive back good place.

864
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: It's a good place to be, Yeah, especially if you're

865
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: keeping Jalen Ramsey. I'm good with the thirty and over

866
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: you've got your veto and you've got your experienced guy.

867
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior is right on the rise, right in

868
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: the middle of that trajectory where you want him to be. Yeah,

869
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: that's a good blead thing.

870
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: The only thing I don't love about Pierre is he's

871
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: about to be thirty.

872
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Dylan Thinneman may have helped himself as much as

873
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: anyone this week, fourth amongst safeties in the forty four

874
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: point three five second in the vertical forty one inches,

875
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: a ten foot five inch broad jump, all body body skill,

876
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 2: ball skills, and body control were outstanding during the gauntlet drills.

877
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 2: He's he's a really good play he's a really good player,

878
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: and he's man, he's he's I'm warming up to that

879
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: as a possibility at twenty one too.

880
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: And he transferred from Purdue to Oregon. If you go

881
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: look at his Purdue stuff, he's almost always single high.

882
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: You know, that's just the defense they played. He's deep

883
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: middle guy and he is totally in control of that defense.

884
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 3: I mean just in terms of aligning everybody, you know,

885
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: total quarterback out there. Oregon, they asked him to do

886
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: more stuff, but he made a bazillion plays too. I

887
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: think he's a really good player.

888
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: I do too. A couple of these other safeties Matt

889
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 2: that had.

890
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 3: There's a lot of good good weeks. Yes, the LSU dude,

891
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: I'm really intrigued with too.

892
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: LSU guy. What about Arizona's trade and Stokes fo.

893
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: About him in four three three forty Yeah? YEAHO. A

894
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: couple of them look like really fast special team mid

895
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: round guys.

896
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 5: Including Lorenzo Styles, including Styles, Sunny Styles brother. He's a

897
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 5: receiver turned defensive back. Some thought he might be a corner,

898
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: some thought he might be a safety. Obviously crazy fast,

899
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 5: but he's also very straight lineish and not real experience.

900
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 5: There like a couple of these safeties that tested crazy

901
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 5: look like a gunner for a year while they learn

902
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 5: and maybe they never get there, maybe they don't. But

903
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 5: there's a lot on day two as well that also

904
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: had really good combines. The South Carolina dude, I forget

905
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 5: they let's use guy's name off the top of my head,

906
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: but he's almost two hundred and twenty pounds. That's a

907
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: pure free you just don't see that very often.

908
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 2: And can move and could move. Aj Halsey Halsey, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

909
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: I mean what do you run like a four or

910
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: five and he a four or five two.

911
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: And he's big and he's max. Well something like that too,

912
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: something like that a few years ago.

913
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 2: That would have been a great time for a safety period.

914
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 3: Been the best, right, been the best. I mean there's

915
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: a lot. It was always half of them were like

916
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: four six twos. You know. Now I think there's one

917
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 3: guy that even approached the four six and the whole

918
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 3: safety group.

919
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's a deep group, it is, it really is.

920
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: And they need them worse than people think.

921
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: It's a good place to be because yeah, it's all

922
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: about having options. They're gonna again by the end of

923
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: next week, a lot of this conversation will be much

924
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: more clear because if the Steelers a week from now

925
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: add a safety and a corner and a wide receiver,

926
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: it's like bring back bring back Sam or sign a

927
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: veteran defensive lineman. Yeah, you're like, okay, they're not going

928
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: to go there at twenty one.

929
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 3: They're gonna do stuff. They got money, Oh.

930
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, and they I mean they always do. And

931
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: some of the moving and shake and as Matt mentioned,

932
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: has already started in the NFL. And we'll get to

933
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: some of that when we return to kick off hour

934
00:41:59,120 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: number two.

935
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: It should be an active week with this move throughout

936
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: the league.

937
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: Yes, And don't get me wrong, when we get through

938
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: next week, it'll still be speculation and hypothetical season because

939
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: they'll still be trades. There'll still be more free agents

940
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: out there, that kind of second and third wave, and

941
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: you'll still have the draft. But it'll that focus will

942
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: narrow that that that that net, that net will tighten.

943
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: There will be many hundreds of million spends you know

944
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: which money.

945
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: Talks agents NFL agents love next week.

946
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

947
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: It's a good week to be a ag, good week

948
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: to be an agent. I wanted to read what McShay

949
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: wrote about the offensive tackles here this week too. He said,

950
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: everyone agrees that while none of these offensive tackles are

951
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: considered elite, there will be a run on them early.

952
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: The shelf drops off significantly after the first seven Mauigoa, Fannu, Freeling,

953
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: Blake Miller, Cale Blomu, Caden Proctor, and max E Nhure.

954
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: My sources have indicated that there's similar talent at o

955
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: line this year as there was last year. Last year,

956
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: eight offensive tackles went in the top fifty eight picks,

957
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: So that could be good and bad for the Steelers

958
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: on if there's one of these guys that they would

959
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: love to take it twenty one, or if they're saying

960
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: we're not dipping our toes in the tackle.

961
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: Marking the first round project or something.

962
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 2: Then maybe you want this run in the first round

963
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: to happen early and then it gives you more options

964
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: at twenty one. But that's a real X factor to me.

965
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: I think we knew there's always going to be a

966
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 2: handful of edge rushers that go high. It's just such

967
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 2: a need.

968
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: If you can get some options, goode to go.

969
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: If nineteen edge rushers could go in the top nineteen tokes.

970
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: Go go everyone this year, go.

971
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: Go go, and then we can take Mendozo there, you know,

972
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: just stash them for a year. But yeah, that that

973
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: to me is I really feel like, and you know, Matt,

974
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: that's one of those positions too. Everyone needs offensive tackles.

975
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna fall in love with these guys. Does someone

976
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: end up falling to you at twenty one that you're

977
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: really interested to or all these guys now, of those seven,

978
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: are five of them gonna go in the top twenty.

979
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: So I kind of made this joke earlier today too,

980
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: like about two three weeks ago, starting to get a

981
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: pretty good grasp of the draft, and I said several airwaves,

982
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 3: it looks like playoff teams might be able to draft

983
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: tackles without reaching like crazy, which never happens, and deep

984
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: in my mind, I'm like, it probably still won't because

985
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: I mean, this history shows those guys get driven up

986
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: like crazy. But they all had a little bit of

987
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: a question. And Freeling's getting mocked at like twenty eight

988
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: and twenty nine, But deep down I was right, like,

989
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: they're gonna go if you're you know, we'll talk about Houston.

990
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: They may they trade two offensive linemen today despite having

991
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: a bat. We go to talk about that when we

992
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: come back here, or San Francisco might be looking for

993
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: a Trent Williams replacement, you know, like they're not going

994
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 3: to be there in the mid to late twenties because

995
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 3: they never are. Nope, maybe the seventh guy, but there's

996
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: not going to be several to pick from.

997
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: It's a it's other than quarterback. It's maybe the it's

998
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: the position that has the biggest kind of gap between

999
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: supply and demand.

1000
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just gets tax right.

1001
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: It's like that fancy bourbon that you like to drink

1002
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: that you can't get here in Pennsylvania.

1003
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: Brob King came through. Yeah yeah, get me.

1004
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: Get a bottle for thirty bucks in the Midwest. But

1005
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: it cost you.

1006
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: If you're near Kentucky, you get a pretty good deal.

1007
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: What does it cost you around here? Hundred? Quite that much?

1008
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: Double yeah, if you can find it right, you'll laugh.

1009
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 2: Saturday Saturday, there's a massive liquor store in Morgantown, West Virginia.

1010
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 2: Imagine that.

1011
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: Wow, I believe that called It's called ash.

1012
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah you could. I mean the parking is always ample

1013
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: there in that party a lot. I tell you it's this.

1014
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: I mean massive liquor outlet in Morgantown. And I my

1015
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: older cousin Jared, was driving us back from the game

1016
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: and I was like, can we swing by Ashbrook.

1017
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: I was like, I might.

1018
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: My buddy's Matt and Rob that I work with. I

1019
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: might see if there's some you know, we're in West Virginia,

1020
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: Like yeah, And he's like, brother, I hate to break

1021
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: it to He's like, they're not going to have that

1022
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: stuff here. It's like this is this is a college town.

1023
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: Liquor store.

1024
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: I was like, Bankers Club. Yeah, still, it's.

1025
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: A massive liquor store. We're bordering Kentucky, and I know

1026
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: it's a college town, but Morgantown is like the third

1027
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: biggest city in West Virginia. He was like, dang, gonna

1028
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: have Buffalo Trace and all that stuff in there, I

1029
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: promise you. And I was like, all right, I forget it.

1030
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: Let's just go to the restaurant there. Let's just go

1031
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: to dinner. But I was looking out for you. I'll

1032
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: keep it. I'll keep my eyes peeled when I'm in

1033
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: West Virginia. Hour in the books, another hour to go.

1034
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: News of the day. There's been some some pretty big

1035
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: name a couple of big names released here so far today,

1036
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: and as Matt mentioned, a significant trade or two as well.

1037
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: We will go over all that and uh and kick

1038
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: off our number two when we return Euler Williamson. It's

1039
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.