Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Mark Moss Show.
Speaker 1: As we're always talking about the decentralized revolution, we're talking
Speaker 1: about de globalization, we're talking about the way the world
Speaker 1: is breaking apart, and of course we look at it
Speaker 1: through the lens of politics, finance, and technology. And you know,
Speaker 1: I've been doing this show now for about two years
Speaker 1: hitting these topics, talking about this deglobalization, and of course
Speaker 1: I use history as our guide. I use cycles of
Speaker 1: history as our guide. And it's a lot of times
Speaker 1: I get people asking me, like, Mark, you keep saying
Speaker 1: this is going to happen. When is it going to happen?
Speaker 1: And I say, well, it is happening. It's a process
Speaker 1: and we're going through it. But never have we seen
Speaker 1: it more pressing and more real than what we're seeing
Speaker 1: right now. And I say that with knowing that the
Speaker 1: last couple of years have been crazy. I mean really
Speaker 1: things really started taking off with the pandemic. Obviously, this
Speaker 1: authoritarian push caused this outline, and this was just sort
Speaker 1: of this cause and effect, and we had this authoritarian
Speaker 1: push around the world to lock everything down and control everything,
Speaker 1: which then caused lots of things to happen but I
Speaker 1: want to just pause for a second and let you
Speaker 1: know what we're going to talk about today. So we're
Speaker 1: talking about today how the world has continued to break apart,
Speaker 1: specifically with the wars happening in the Middle East, and
Speaker 1: I want to break down I've been sort of somewhat
Speaker 1: silent on this because well, as I did talk about
Speaker 1: it in a YouTube video, but I've been somewhat silent
Speaker 1: about this because, oh, it's so hard to know what
Speaker 1: is going on. You can easily counter either side, you
Speaker 1: can blame either side, you can counter the counter of
Speaker 1: the counter of either side. You can keep going deeper
Speaker 1: and deeper and deeper. And I didn't feel that one
Speaker 1: I knew where the truth was, and two I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like I had anything very constructive to say. But
Speaker 1: now that it's been going on for a while, I've
Speaker 1: been digging into it way more than I maybe should
Speaker 1: or need to. And I have some more stuff today,
Speaker 1: and I want to come and I want to talk
Speaker 1: about this new world war that's about to begin. And
Speaker 1: I'm going to use history as our guide. So we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about what's going on in the Middle East,
Speaker 1: but we're going to go through it from a historical perspective,
Speaker 1: so we could try to understand where we're at today
Speaker 1: from a let's say, a neutral lens, and then think
Speaker 1: about how this fits into the glo the greater global
Speaker 1: conflict that we're seeing, and again back into this deglobalization
Speaker 1: or decentralization that we're talking about. All right, so that's
Speaker 1: what we're going to talk about now. Like I said,
Speaker 1: things really seem to take off during the pandemic, but
Speaker 1: really it actually started happening before that. So in December
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, there were ten countries in the world
Speaker 1: with over one million people each in the streets protesting. Okay,
Speaker 1: so a lot of this pushback, this US against them,
Speaker 1: the people versus the government, seems to have started during
Speaker 1: this pandemic, like I said, when this authoritarian regime really
Speaker 1: started to kind of put the pressure on governments around
Speaker 1: the world. But really, like I said, it actually in
Speaker 1: December tween nineteen, ten countries had a million people each protesting.
Speaker 1: So it's been one on for a while, and it's
Speaker 1: because of this pendulum that swings back and forth. I've
Speaker 1: been talking about, Now, how does this fit into this
Speaker 1: greater context. Well, now we have this authoritarian push people,
Speaker 1: and really it was sort of this uh, this last
Speaker 1: grasp of power that these states won have. And you know,
Speaker 1: per Klaud Schwab's own words and not his own words,
Speaker 1: his own book. Klaus Schwab is the head of the
Speaker 1: World Economic Forum. If you're listening to the show hum,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know that by now. But he wrote
Speaker 1: a book called the Great Reset, that's what he called it.
Speaker 1: It's his book, go read it. And he said that
Speaker 1: we should take advantage of this opportunity to reimagine, to
Speaker 1: reset the world, to build it new. And of course
Speaker 1: they certainly tried to do that. And since then we've
Speaker 1: just seen this continue to escalate. Things really started to
Speaker 1: escalate in Canada when when the trucker started to protest
Speaker 1: against that. Things really started to escalate. With the Russia
Speaker 1: Ukraine situation. Of course, now we still have the China
Speaker 1: Taiwan situation. We're going to talk about that later. And
Speaker 1: now in the Middle East things are breaking apart. But
Speaker 1: like I said, I wanted to kind of go back
Speaker 1: through history so you can have a better understanding of
Speaker 1: what is going on there and where we're going. And
Speaker 1: again I like to use history because it gives us
Speaker 1: better context of what's going on and right now, what
Speaker 1: I would like to see personally is peace. I think
Speaker 1: most people would like to see peace. Now, there's certainly
Speaker 1: people on both sides that want to kill each other.
Speaker 1: There's certainly that, but I think the majority of people
Speaker 1: in the world just want peace. The question is how
Speaker 1: do we get there? And so that's what we're going
Speaker 1: to take a look at. We first have to understand
Speaker 1: that in order to get peace, and this is just
Speaker 1: conflict resolution one on one, in order to get peace,
Speaker 1: both sides have to be able to put themselves in
Speaker 1: other people's shoes. Both sides have to be willing to
Speaker 1: see both sides of the conflict. And unfortunately, that's something
Speaker 1: that mainstream media just doesn't seem to want to facilitate.
Speaker 1: Mainstream media doesn't want to facilitate it. I think there's
Speaker 1: members on both sides of the government or all the
Speaker 1: governments that don't want to facilitate this for any number
Speaker 1: of reasons that we can go into. But in order
Speaker 1: to get to peace, that has to happen. You know,
Speaker 1: if I'm in a if I'm in a conflict with
Speaker 1: a relationship with my wife or with a friend. I
Speaker 1: have to be willing to stop and put myself into
Speaker 1: their shoes. I have to be willing to have empathy
Speaker 1: and think about where they're coming from. They have to
Speaker 1: be willing to do the same. We both have to
Speaker 1: be willing to make concessions, and we both have to
Speaker 1: be willing to sort of let go of the past
Speaker 1: or we'll never be able to move forward. That's just
Speaker 1: how it works. This is not rocket science here like
Speaker 1: this is this is This is how it works, and
Speaker 1: so in order to have peace, that's what's going to
Speaker 1: have to happen. But for all of the armchair pundits
Speaker 1: that are getting triggered by what they're seeing at college
Speaker 1: campuses or whatever news channel you're watching, or people jump
Speaker 1: into conclusions, and especially social media. Now I'm certainly going
Speaker 1: to make a case. I was going to do another
Speaker 1: episode today. We'll come back with this probably next week
Speaker 1: on how a lot of this war is actually pushing
Speaker 1: forward this authoritarian agenda, which is censorship of speech. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we know that the end goal is total control
Speaker 1: over our money, over our energy, over our food, and
Speaker 1: that as we get further and further along, there's more
Speaker 1: push back to that and so as the powers that
Speaker 1: be continue to lose their narrative because of the Internet
Speaker 1: has given us this freedom of speech and social media stuff,
Speaker 1: the only way they can continue to hold onto that
Speaker 1: power is through censoring our ability to well just censoring,
Speaker 1: sensoring our ability to have free speech, and which is
Speaker 1: then sensoring our ability to think because now we don't
Speaker 1: have ideas, and also censoring our money. So I want
Speaker 1: to do a whole show on that. We'll come back
Speaker 1: to that next week. Let me know in the comments
Speaker 1: if you actually want me to do that, because it's
Speaker 1: a big, big, big lift and I haven't fully committed yet.
Speaker 1: If I want to do that, so let me know,
Speaker 1: hit me up on social media, let me know if
Speaker 1: you want me to do. How this war is really
Speaker 1: being used to push in more censorship, and not just
Speaker 1: in the Middle East. As a matter of fact, just
Speaker 1: today at the time of this recording, I saw a
Speaker 1: news article that came out that in Ukraine they're moving
Speaker 1: to get rid of all the Orthodox Christian churches there,
Speaker 1: censoring people's religious freedom in Ukraine. So that's really what
Speaker 1: war is about. It's about censoring. It's happened in the
Speaker 1: United States as well, we've had laws against the free
Speaker 1: speech in the United States as well, so that's certainly
Speaker 1: something that's happening. But what I did, I went down
Speaker 1: that rabbit hole. The reason why I went down that
Speaker 1: rabbit hole is because social media. As much as I
Speaker 1: do not want to censor it, I want to continue
Speaker 1: to have free speech. Because of the short nature of
Speaker 1: what we see on social media, we're able to quickly
Speaker 1: take things out of context, and we're able to quickly
Speaker 1: jump onto one side of a narrative or another, and
Speaker 1: without the context, we can make good informed decisions. Right.
Speaker 1: And so again I'm not for censoring it, but mainstream media,
Speaker 1: the governments, the mainstream media people on both sides, and
Speaker 1: just the use of social media, this short form content
Speaker 1: leads to this, and so I want to help stop that.
Speaker 1: And so let me bring context to what this is.
Speaker 1: You can understand now if we look at the Russia
Speaker 1: Ukraine situation for a while, I mean, there's both there's
Speaker 1: two sides of that. They say there's three sides to
Speaker 1: every story, right, there's like their side, my side, and
Speaker 1: then there's something in the middle. And so of course
Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine both have their own sides to that,
Speaker 1: and now we can see israel An Israel and Palestine
Speaker 1: have their sides right, and each side want to blame
Speaker 1: the other rather than viewing the events from the current
Speaker 1: historical lens that we're talking about. But I don't want
Speaker 1: you to fall into that same trap. So we're going
Speaker 1: to help you understand what this global historical lens is.
Speaker 1: You're just tune in, you're listening to the markmas Show.
Speaker 1: I'm going to run through this historical context so we
Speaker 1: can see what's happening in this new war that's shaping up.
Speaker 1: You don't want to miss it, don't go way, I'll
Speaker 1: be right back. All right, welcome back. If you're just
Speaker 1: tune in, you're listening to the Mark mass Show, we're
Speaker 1: talking about the new war that's broken out in the
Speaker 1: Middle East and how this fits in to the global
Speaker 1: wars that we're having, the deglobalization, and really I want
Speaker 1: to run you through the context of what's going on now.
Speaker 1: Like I said, there's multiple sides to each story. And
Speaker 1: so just like in Russia and Ukraine, each side seems
Speaker 1: to be fighting for their lives. Maybe in Israel, you
Speaker 1: know they're fighting this existential threat, but so are the Palestinians.
Speaker 1: But really to understand this, we have to go back.
Speaker 1: We have to understand that there's a very long history
Speaker 1: of conflict in the region. And as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: we can go back very far, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: do that, but I want to start with a little
Speaker 1: bit more recent times because this is where most people
Speaker 1: pick up the story, and we can see if there's
Speaker 1: been this long standing conflict between Israel and Palestine, which
Speaker 1: really began with the declaration of Israel as an independent
Speaker 1: nation state in nineteen forty eight. So you're going to
Speaker 1: hear that Israel went and took the land from the Palestinians,
Speaker 1: which they kind of did, but that's not actually what happened. Now.
Speaker 1: What happened is thousands of Jews did immigrate to Palestinan
Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties and the nineteen thirties. When that happened,
Speaker 1: it did result in lots of violent clashes with the
Speaker 1: local Arab population that was there now at the time,
Speaker 1: though they weren't really taking it from the Palestinians because
Speaker 1: at the time the British Empire had control. The British
Speaker 1: Empire was occupying it, and they were attempting to try
Speaker 1: to limit the amount of Jewish immigration that was coming.
Speaker 1: And so as they were trying to keep the Jews out,
Speaker 1: the British, who had control, it made the Jews mad,
Speaker 1: as you might understand. And at the same time the
Speaker 1: British state was trying to support for a Jewish homeland,
Speaker 1: but that enraged the Arabs. The British had control, and obviously,
Speaker 1: no matter which side they made concessions to, the other
Speaker 1: side was going to be angry about it. As this
Speaker 1: was happening, then World War Two broke out. During World
Speaker 1: War two and estimated about six million Jews were murdered
Speaker 1: in Nazi concentration camps. And so after the war, the
Speaker 1: Jews started flooding out of Europe and started flooding into Palestine,
Speaker 1: and then you know, they viewed this as their homeland,
Speaker 1: which it had been. We're going to go back through
Speaker 1: that history. And then by nineteen forty seven the British
Speaker 1: realized the situation had become unsustainable. All right, So this
Speaker 1: is sort of where we're at today. And so the
Speaker 1: Palestinians are like, hey, this is our land. How would
Speaker 1: you feel if they came and took your land? Of course,
Speaker 1: nobody would like that, right, we could look at this objectionally,
Speaker 1: nobody would like that. But again, it was actually British
Speaker 1: land at the time. The British had ruled it. But
Speaker 1: I want to go back further, and then we're going
Speaker 1: to pick up this story. So let's go back a
Speaker 1: little bit further. Because as a matter of fact, this
Speaker 1: part of land right there is like the oldest land
Speaker 1: in the world that we know about. Obviously, all the
Speaker 1: land of the world is the same age, but this
Speaker 1: is the part of the world that we know about.
Speaker 1: It's very well documented. As a matter of fact, we
Speaker 1: know about sixteen hundred before christ BC, so that's you know,
Speaker 1: thirty six hundred years ago or more. We have documentation
Speaker 1: of that land and what was going on there. So
Speaker 1: in sixteen hundred BC, Abraham, the father of the Jewish people,
Speaker 1: went and settled in the land of Israel. All right,
Speaker 1: So he was a Jew and he was in the
Speaker 1: Land of Israel, and that was his land. Over three
Speaker 1: thousand years ago. What happened is there was massive famine
Speaker 1: in the land, and the people of the Jews living
Speaker 1: in Israel went to Egypt to get grain and they
Speaker 1: ended up moving to Egypt. So there was massive famine.
Speaker 1: It went for seven years. If you know your Bible stories,
Speaker 1: you know this, but it's documented throughout secular history as well.
Speaker 1: And so the Jews left Israel and they went to
Speaker 1: Egypt to get the food, to get the grain. Then
Speaker 1: this goes into the second book of the Bible, Exodus,
Speaker 1: which is Bob Marley made a song about Exodus movement
Speaker 1: of the people. And in twelve hundred BC, the people,
Speaker 1: the Jews, left Egypt and they went back to Israel.
Speaker 1: All right, and so now we see twelve hundred eleven
Speaker 1: hundred BC, the tribes of Israel go back, they settle
Speaker 1: in the land of Israel. So Israel, the Jews lived
Speaker 1: in Israel, they left, they went to Egypt, they came
Speaker 1: back to Israel. Then in one thousand BC, the Kingdom
Speaker 1: of Israel is established. King Saul is the very first
Speaker 1: king that's there. One thousand BC, Jerusalem becomes the capital
Speaker 1: of the Kingdom of Israel under now King David nine
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty BC. The first temple is built by
Speaker 1: in Jerusalem by King Solomon seven twenty two to seven
Speaker 1: to twenty BC. The Kingdom of Israel that's located in
Speaker 1: the northern land of Israel is conquered. So now the
Speaker 1: Jews that have been there for now you know, a
Speaker 1: thousand years, almost eight hundred years, they're now conquered by Assyria.
Speaker 1: And so now the tribes of Israel go into exile. Now,
Speaker 1: so the Jews were there, they left, they came back,
Speaker 1: they got conquered. Now they're there by Syria. So all
Speaker 1: of history is a story of one tribe taking over
Speaker 1: another tribe. Since the very beginning of time, we've had
Speaker 1: tribes and they battle over scarce resources, and they fight
Speaker 1: over land, and they fight over food, and one tribe
Speaker 1: takes over another, and one village takes over another, and
Speaker 1: one kingdom takes over another, and all of history is
Speaker 1: a story of this. So, you know, here in the
Speaker 1: United States or in Canada, you hear about the indigenous
Speaker 1: people and their land was taken, but that is factually correct.
Speaker 1: But they took it from someone else before them, and
Speaker 1: they took it from someone else before them, and they
Speaker 1: took it from someone else before them, And so how
Speaker 1: far do you go back? So we can go back,
Speaker 1: certainly as this story started to the nineteen forties when
Speaker 1: the Jews took it from the Palestinians, where I should
Speaker 1: say the British gave it to the Jews. However, that's
Speaker 1: just the last time. So we're going all the way
Speaker 1: back to the beginning of recorded history sixteen hundred BC,
Speaker 1: and the Jews were there, okay, so now let's keep going.
Speaker 1: So they were exiled. The Syrians now took it. So
Speaker 1: now the Jews don't have it anymore. Now Syria has
Speaker 1: it a five eighty six PC the Kingdom of Judah.
Speaker 1: The Jews is now conquered by Babylon. Jerusalem and the
Speaker 1: Temple are completely demolished, laid to waste, and the Jews
Speaker 1: are exiled. So now they're taken out of their own land.
Speaker 1: They are now exiled to Babylon. Now some of the
Speaker 1: Jews remained, but most of them were taken away. There's
Speaker 1: a story of the remnant, the few that were there.
Speaker 1: So they the Jews never totally left the land. There
Speaker 1: was always some that remained. Like I said that, the remnant.
Speaker 1: So now five eighty six they are conquered, and they
Speaker 1: were exiled to Babylon five thirty eight to five point
Speaker 1: fifteen BC. They return. They return. The Jews return from
Speaker 1: Babylon and they rebuild the temple. Three point thirty two BC.
Speaker 1: Now the land of Israel is conquered by Alexander the Great.
Speaker 1: You've probably heard about him. So again they left, they
Speaker 1: came back, they set up their kingdom again, and now
Speaker 1: they're taken over again Alexander the Great. Now we go
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty BC. The Hasmon revolt against the
Speaker 1: Greek Empire in reaction to the constraints imposed on the
Speaker 1: Jewish religious practice. So now there's this revolt. Now the
Speaker 1: Greeks are fighting over the land. To sixty three BC
Speaker 1: the Jews establish independence again. You see how this just
Speaker 1: is a cycle. It just repeats over and over. Now
Speaker 1: sixty three BC, King Herod from Rome now rules the
Speaker 1: land in Israel. Now the temple's expanded, becomes a beautiful temple.
Speaker 1: But in sixty six p see the Jews rebel against
Speaker 1: the Romans. Now because now the Romans control Israel, so
Speaker 1: the Jews rebel against that. And then seventy Now this
Speaker 1: is eighty. So this is now seventy after Christ the
Speaker 1: destruction of Jerusalem, and the Second Temple is built. In
Speaker 1: seventy three the Romans battle to conquer it and the
Speaker 1: Romans takeover. They change the name of Judea to Syria Palestina,
Speaker 1: in the name of Jerusalem to Elia Capitalonia, and Jews
Speaker 1: are forbidden to settle in the land of Israel. So
Speaker 1: this is one hundred and thirty six eighty now, so
Speaker 1: again the Jews are forbidden from being in the land
Speaker 1: of Israel, which they've been in on and off since
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred PC. All right, Now, if you're just tune in,
Speaker 1: you're listening to the Mark Maus Show. I'm giving you
Speaker 1: historical context so we can have a better understanding of
Speaker 1: what is going on in the world today. I got
Speaker 1: a whole lot more to cover when I come back.
Speaker 1: You don't want to miss it, so don't go away.
Speaker 1: I'll be right back. All right, welcome back. If you're
Speaker 1: just tune in, you're listening to the Mark mass Show.
Speaker 1: We're talking about, as always, the decentralization the world, but
Speaker 1: we're going back through this historical context. We can understand
Speaker 1: what's going on in the Middle East. And I'm taking
Speaker 1: you through a long history, went back all the way
Speaker 1: to sixteen hundred BC. And if you're just tune in now,
Speaker 1: we're at six hundred eighty all right, So well, one
Speaker 1: thirty six eighty, the Romans took control of Israel and
Speaker 1: forbid the Jews from being in the land. So one
Speaker 1: thirty six eighty, now we fast forward to so the
Speaker 1: Romans have control. Now we fast forward to six hundred
Speaker 1: eighty and the Persians invade, and the Persians take control,
Speaker 1: and the Arabs conquest in six thirty eight eighty, So
Speaker 1: now the Arabs have control of the land. Six thirty
Speaker 1: eight the liberation of Jerusalem from a combined force of
Speaker 1: Persians and Jews. So the so the Arabs now have
Speaker 1: control of that land. But then in ten ninety nine
Speaker 1: to twelve ninety one, now the Crusader come in, and
Speaker 1: now they take over the land. And then in fifteen
Speaker 1: seventeen the Ottoman Empire comes over and takes over the
Speaker 1: land and they rule. Then in eighteen sixty three, so
Speaker 1: three hundred years later, three hundred and thirty years later,
Speaker 1: the Jewish majority comes back into Jerusalem and renew the land.
Speaker 1: Are you starting to get the story here? Nineteen oh one,
Speaker 1: the establishment of the Jewish National Fund, an organization for
Speaker 1: purchasing land for Jewish settlement settlement of the Land of
Speaker 1: Israel comes into place and then there's a lot of
Speaker 1: history that goes on through here. It starts happening pretty
Speaker 1: quickly here in nineteen sixteen it's called the Sikes Picot Agreement,
Speaker 1: and it was between France and Britain, and they delineated
Speaker 1: the two powers for this Middle Eastern area of rule
Speaker 1: in the Ottoman Empire. And this was right around the time,
Speaker 1: right when the World War for the First World War
Speaker 1: had ended. So now we have frank in Britain having control,
Speaker 1: taking overpower that used to be under the Ottoman Empire.
Speaker 1: And then in nineteen seventeen, a document signed by British
Speaker 1: Foreign Minister Lord Arthur James Balfour espouse a national Home
Speaker 1: for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel. As
Speaker 1: we keep going, nineteen twenty, the San Remo Agreement gave
Speaker 1: Britain rule over the Land of Israel after the fall
Speaker 1: of the Ottoman Empire and ratified the creation of the
Speaker 1: National Home for the Jewish people in the Land of
Speaker 1: Israel under the ages of the British power. So again,
Speaker 1: now the British have power, they have control over the land,
Speaker 1: and now they're giving it back to the Jewish people
Speaker 1: who have been in and out of there since sixteen
Speaker 1: hundred BC. Of course, the Arabs don't like this. They've
Speaker 1: been all around this, and so there's riots start happening,
Speaker 1: all of this starts happening, and now we're sort of
Speaker 1: caught back up into modern time. All right. So this
Speaker 1: has been a hotly contested piece of land. It's the
Speaker 1: oldest piece of land in the world that we have
Speaker 1: documentation for. And the Jews settled in a land in
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred BC and have been in and out of
Speaker 1: that land ever since for over three thousand years. And
Speaker 1: here we are back up to nineteen forty seven when
Speaker 1: after World War II, the British, having control, gave it
Speaker 1: back to the Israelites, to the Jews. I guess all right,
Speaker 1: Now this was also created by the United Nations, and
Speaker 1: so what the United Nations society to do because this
Speaker 1: situation was unsustainable. Even though the British had control gave
Speaker 1: it back to the Jews, the Arabs that were there,
Speaker 1: the Palestinians, still didn't like it, and so there was
Speaker 1: this ongoing war. And so the United Nations stepped in
Speaker 1: to devise a plan, and they said, let's just split
Speaker 1: the land. Here's what we'll do. Let's just split it.
Speaker 1: Remember both sides have concessions. They split the land into
Speaker 1: two sections, and the Jews celebrated and the Arabs were bailed.
Speaker 1: That was May fourteenth, nineteen forty eight, and the day
Speaker 1: the British. That was the day the British troops withdrew
Speaker 1: from Palestine and the State of Israel was declared, and
Speaker 1: of course then violence broke out. So as soon as
Speaker 1: the British troops left, then violence happened. The Muslim countries
Speaker 1: of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and Egypt all attacked the
Speaker 1: newly formed state and secured Arab territory within it. And
Speaker 1: in the remaining Israeli territory, thousands of Palestinians were driven
Speaker 1: out by Israeli forces. So this is where they're driven
Speaker 1: out of their home, which of course they're not going
Speaker 1: to be happy about. No one's ever happy about this.
Speaker 1: This is not a good situation to be in. And
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, since I didn't say it in
Speaker 1: the beginning, I don't advocate for any violence. I think
Speaker 1: I started out by saying I want peace. I think
Speaker 1: most people in the world want peace, Like, can't we
Speaker 1: all just get along? Was that Rodney King? Why you
Speaker 1: know you hear about like these, you know, Miss America contestants,
Speaker 1: and like, if I could get anything, I just want
Speaker 1: world peace, Like why can't we just get along? Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: we have human nature and some people are just bad
Speaker 1: and some people want more power control. There's lots of problems.
Speaker 1: There's ideological problems. This is mostly religious wars, so you
Speaker 1: have two very distinct ideologies, and there's obviously lots of
Speaker 1: sex within that. But at this point, now this land
Speaker 1: has been given back and there's wars going out. Now
Speaker 1: it starts to go tit for tat here, all right,
Speaker 1: So we basically see that all these territories now attack Israel,
Speaker 1: and Israel moves in and they drive the Palestinians out right,
Speaker 1: and this is what forms the basis of the base
Speaker 1: of the conflict that's brewing today. The Palestinians were forcely
Speaker 1: removed from their homes. They were and they've never forgot it. Now.
Speaker 1: The situation further escalated nineteen sixty seven when Israel seized
Speaker 1: additional territory from Jordan and Syria. So that happened that
Speaker 1: according to a documentary, that was a war in which
Speaker 1: the Arab nations clearly were about to attack Israel. Israel had,
Speaker 1: as it were, both a legal and moral right to
Speaker 1: strike first, as they did strike first. Oh that's their story.
Speaker 1: You and I don't know know the answer. We don't
Speaker 1: know the truth here all right. As a result of
Speaker 1: Israel's preempt to strike, the Gaza Strip, initially part of Egypt,
Speaker 1: came under control of Israel. Now nineteen seventy three, fifty
Speaker 1: years ago to this attack that has happened. There was
Speaker 1: a surprise attack on Yam Kapor, and after years of
Speaker 1: ongoing struggle, Egypt and Israel finally met to negotiate peace
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight. So again peace was struck out.
Speaker 1: It was called the Camp David Accords of nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 1: and it returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt, while Israel
Speaker 1: kept East Jerusalem and the West Bank, the Golden Heights
Speaker 1: in Syria, and the Gaza Strip. Israel also acquired more
Speaker 1: than one million Palestinian Arabs who lived in Israeli occupied territories.
Speaker 1: It's a mess over there. Then we have the rise
Speaker 1: of Hamas. The accords did nothing to soothe old differences, however,
Speaker 1: and for decades afterwards, Israeli forces in the Palestinian Liberation
Speaker 1: Organization the PLO, carried on hostilities. Peace talks were renewed
Speaker 1: in the early nineteen nineties in Oslo, Norway, resulting in
Speaker 1: a two state solution. So now we start getting into Hamas.
Speaker 1: We start thinking about the Palestinians. They wanted to be
Speaker 1: guaranteed an independent state, and so then the Palistinians were
Speaker 1: able to elect their own government with the territories of
Speaker 1: the West Bank and the Gaza stript. Meanwhile, Jerusalem was
Speaker 1: meant to be a free city there, but of course,
Speaker 1: surprise surprise, things didn't work out as planned there either.
Speaker 1: In two thousand, violent clashes between the two communities resumed.
Speaker 1: In two thousand and six, Palestinians elected members of a
Speaker 1: hardline Islamis group called Hamas. The reigning party Fatah ended
Speaker 1: up with just forty five seats, and so Hamas got
Speaker 1: seventy four seats and won. The problem that we're in now,
Speaker 1: now that we're caught up here, and hopefully you appreciate
Speaker 1: that this was a pretty neutral stance. This is just history,
Speaker 1: it's just fact. It is what it is. The problem
Speaker 1: is now, so Hamas got the majority of the seats,
Speaker 1: they have the power, they have the control, and in
Speaker 1: Hamas's founding charter it included a commitment to the total
Speaker 1: destruction of the Israeli state, which is of course a
Speaker 1: direct violation of the Oslo Peace Accords. So that's sort
Speaker 1: of where we're at right now. Now we can argue
Speaker 1: either side. Of course they want to completely destroyer and
Speaker 1: they ran them out of their home. If you got
Speaker 1: ran out of your home, wouldn't you want to go
Speaker 1: to story that person as well? But how far do
Speaker 1: we go back? That's the question. The question is how
Speaker 1: far do we go back? And really the question is
Speaker 1: how do we move forward with peace from here? I
Speaker 1: think that's even the much bigger question because we can
Speaker 1: see that as of right now. If one side vows
Speaker 1: to kill the other unless they get out of their land,
Speaker 1: on the other side decide says we're not going to
Speaker 1: get out of land and we'll kill you, how do
Speaker 1: we have some resolution there? Well, it's going to be
Speaker 1: very difficult. And if you want to find out what
Speaker 1: I have to say about that, then don't go wakes.
Speaker 1: I gotta take a very quick break. If you're just
Speaker 1: tune in, you listening to the Mark Maas Show, and
Speaker 1: we went through the historical account for three thousand years
Speaker 1: of what led up to this Middle East war that's
Speaker 1: about to break out or is breaking out. I'm going
Speaker 1: to come back with more a minute. Don't go await,
Speaker 1: bear back, all right, welcome back. If you're just tune in,
Speaker 1: you're listening to the Mark Maas Show. We're running through
Speaker 1: the historical context that led us to the point that
Speaker 1: we're at in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine,
Speaker 1: and not just those two, actually the entire Arab world.
Speaker 1: So we went through from over three thousand years of
Speaker 1: history going back to sixteen hundred BC when Abraham the
Speaker 1: Jew first settled in the land of Israel, all the
Speaker 1: accounts of how they've been taken over and moved back,
Speaker 1: and taken over and moved back, and all these things
Speaker 1: all the way to where we're at in current times. So,
Speaker 1: you know, this is a big issue and there's no
Speaker 1: good answer for this. In the United States, you know,
Speaker 1: we have this I already kind of mentioned sort of
Speaker 1: in the United States and Canada, sort of this push
Speaker 1: towards recognizing these indigenous people. And again I'm not advocating
Speaker 1: for any type of violence. I don't like I want
Speaker 1: peace like anybody else. But who has the claim you
Speaker 1: know under the last piece of cord that to World
Speaker 1: War Two, the deal was is that nobody was supposed
Speaker 1: to sort of infringe on other people's lands. But of
Speaker 1: course that continues to happen. I don't have all the
Speaker 1: answers here. The answers are that we need to put
Speaker 1: ourselves in each other's shoes. We have to be able
Speaker 1: to make concessions, we have to be able to forgive,
Speaker 1: and we have to be able to move forward. But
Speaker 1: how do we do that in the light of violence
Speaker 1: happening around us? That's the bigger question. And then on
Speaker 1: top of that, how do we do that at a
Speaker 1: time when the people running the world seem to be
Speaker 1: wanting the war to happen. Why would they want that
Speaker 1: to happen. Well, if you remember the last president that
Speaker 1: was assassinated, John F. Kennedy was assassinated after he made
Speaker 1: a speech talking about the intelligence community and the problems
Speaker 1: that they had caused and how he would splinter them
Speaker 1: into a thousand pieces. That's what he said, and then
Speaker 1: he was killed for that. The president before him, Eisenhower,
Speaker 1: as he was leaving office, he made a speech. Typically
Speaker 1: after you're done with office or you're on your deathbed,
Speaker 1: you start to get very honest, and he said that
Speaker 1: the greatest threat that this nation had was the military
Speaker 1: industrial complex. And we don't have to just go back
Speaker 1: to Eisenheer, We can go all the way back to
Speaker 1: the founding of the United States, when our founding fathers
Speaker 1: told us that the greatest risk our kids, that us
Speaker 1: as modern day people and as Americans would face would
Speaker 1: be a country that has standing armies. It's always been
Speaker 1: the military being the greatest threat. And the reason why
Speaker 1: the military industrial complex is such a threat is because
Speaker 1: if you have a business, the goal of your business
Speaker 1: is to grow your business. It's to make more money.
Speaker 1: But when you're in the business of war, that means
Speaker 1: you need more war. Business isn't very good if there's
Speaker 1: no war. And so we always need this opponent, We
Speaker 1: always need this boogeyman out there in order for us
Speaker 1: to continue to invest into new weapons and new arms
Speaker 1: and things like that. We can see how you know
Speaker 1: in there, well, really after since World War Two, but
Speaker 1: really in the fifties, the sixties, the seventies, we had
Speaker 1: this cold war between America and Russia, and this led
Speaker 1: the military industrial complex to continue to spend lots and
Speaker 1: lots of billions of dollars on new technologies and continue
Speaker 1: to build up the military and things like that. But finally,
Speaker 1: in the late eighties and early nineties, then the USSR
Speaker 1: finally collapsed. Communism took its toll. The USSR collapsed, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now the US didn't have this
Speaker 1: big boogieman, They didn't have this big army or this
Speaker 1: country to fear. What happens with the industrial military industrial
Speaker 1: complex when they don't have this big enemy out there anymore, Well,
Speaker 1: they need a new enemy. And so shortly thereafter, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the enemy became terrorism. We had the
Speaker 1: Twin Towers that went down, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: we had to go bomb the Middle East, and now
Speaker 1: we had to go after terrorists. Now that the beauty
Speaker 1: of fighting terrorism for them, since for the military industrial
Speaker 1: complex is that now we don't just have a country
Speaker 1: that we know where they're at and we can defeat them. No. No,
Speaker 1: now we have this nameless, faceless enemy who's everywhere and nowhere,
Speaker 1: and there's never a way to defeat them ever. So
Speaker 1: we have endless wars that can go on forever, and
Speaker 1: it's an ever growing threat that always has to be managed.
Speaker 1: And of course we can always stoke up a few
Speaker 1: more along the way. And so now we have this world.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, that's really in my opinion, it's always
Speaker 1: been the same, which is what we really have in
Speaker 1: this world has always been corporatism. Corporatism being corporations and
Speaker 1: governments working together. And they used to call that fascism.
Speaker 1: Now Klaus Schwab with the World That Coming Forum wants
Speaker 1: to call that public private partnerships. In the US sometimes
Speaker 1: we call it crony capitalism or cronyism, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it. It's the same thing. It's businesses working
Speaker 1: in their own interest with the government to continue to
Speaker 1: build their businesses. That's what it's always been. And so
Speaker 1: this military industrial complex wants to continue to stoke more wars.
Speaker 1: But then we also have other things such as through
Speaker 1: the Middle East, we have massive amounts of energy, so
Speaker 1: we have oil pipelines, we have gas pipelines, and so
Speaker 1: there's lots of interest. As a matter of fact, if
Speaker 1: you look back through most of what happened through the
Speaker 1: Gulf wars after nine to eleven, a lot of it
Speaker 1: seemed to be going over there to protect the interests
Speaker 1: of some of these rich people or multinational companies, if
Speaker 1: you want to call it that, securing rights to the energy,
Speaker 1: securing oil pipelines and things like that. It's always been
Speaker 1: about the money. And so because of that, it makes
Speaker 1: it very difficult for us to understand what's going on.
Speaker 1: It's the fog of wars, what we call it. And
Speaker 1: so while on one hand it seems so simple, the
Speaker 1: other hand, it's like, how do we know this isn't
Speaker 1: some fake false flag. For example, in Israel net and Yahoo,
Speaker 1: the prime minister there has been under attack. You know,
Speaker 1: the people in Israel are not happy with the government.
Speaker 1: They became one of the most authoritarian nations in the
Speaker 1: world during the COVID pandemic, and there's been so much
Speaker 1: pushback and the country is starting to reject the leadership
Speaker 1: or the political leadership that's there. So hmm, well, let's
Speaker 1: see if they start a proxy war, or i should say,
Speaker 1: a false flag war, if they start war with Palestine,
Speaker 1: does that create this sense of nationalism? Does that reignite
Speaker 1: the people to come together for the good of their
Speaker 1: Israel country and then sort of get the blame off
Speaker 1: of net and Yahoo. Well, I mean, I guess that's possible.
Speaker 1: That could be something, or could it be something bigger?
Speaker 1: Could it be something about the energy. Could it be
Speaker 1: that we're trying to stoke a war in the Middle
Speaker 1: East so that we could limit the supply of energy
Speaker 1: in the Middle East, so we could get them out
Speaker 1: of their position of power. We know that opek Plus
Speaker 1: is trying to kind of set the price of energy
Speaker 1: and oil. The US doesn't like that. Could we trying
Speaker 1: to limit the entire area so that the US interest
Speaker 1: of oil and natural gas could prevail. There's certainly a
Speaker 1: call for that. We can look at what's happening in
Speaker 1: Ukraine as sort of the same way. And so it's
Speaker 1: very difficult to say. And so that's why, as I
Speaker 1: said sort of in the beginning when I first started out,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've spent thousands of hours studying this
Speaker 1: and talking about this and having discussions about this and
Speaker 1: reading back to history and trying to understand this the
Speaker 1: best I can. But the fog of war is so
Speaker 1: thick that we won't ever know. Now, Like I said,
Speaker 1: what I think should be. The answer is peace, right,
Speaker 1: and I think that should be the number one goal
Speaker 1: in everybody's mind is how can we de escalate this situation?
Speaker 1: How can we treat each other with respect? How can
Speaker 1: we try to understand both sides? How can we come
Speaker 1: to a place where we understand that both sides have
Speaker 1: been wronged? Here this is not a good situation. There
Speaker 1: is no returning things back. Sometimes things are just bad.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we just have to deal with what we have
Speaker 1: and we have to try to move forward. And that's
Speaker 1: exactly where we're at. And so that's my point. I
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that I've put that out on
Speaker 1: public record. I stand for peace. I'm not for pro
Speaker 1: any of this. I'm for pro people. I'm for pro humanity.
Speaker 1: I'm for love. I'm for loving each other. I'm for
Speaker 1: treating each other with tolerance. And that's how I'd like
Speaker 1: to move forward. I am against the evergrowing state. I
Speaker 1: am against the war longerene, neo con state apparatus of
Speaker 1: the military industrial complex. And I hope that more people
Speaker 1: could see that the real battle isn't between the people,
Speaker 1: but between the governments. If you're just tune in, you're
Speaker 1: listening to the Markmas Show. We've been talking about the
Speaker 1: way the world is breaking apart from a very long
Speaker 1: historical lens of what's going on in the Middle East.
Speaker 1: Hopefully this brings some context to you. Let me know
Speaker 1: what you think, hit me up in the comments, hit
Speaker 1: me up on social media, and that's what I got.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening.