WEBVTT - Israel's Evolution: A Deep Dive into Its Historical Timeline with Mark Moss

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Mark Moss Show.

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<v Speaker 1>As we're always talking about the decentralized revolution, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about de globalization, we're talking about the way the world

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<v Speaker 1>is breaking apart, and of course we look at it

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<v Speaker 1>through the lens of politics, finance, and technology. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this show now for about two years

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<v Speaker 1>hitting these topics, talking about this deglobalization, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>I use history as our guide. I use cycles of

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<v Speaker 1>history as our guide. And it's a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>I get people asking me, like, Mark, you keep saying

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to happen. When is it going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>And I say, well, it is happening. It's a process

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going through it. But never have we seen

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<v Speaker 1>it more pressing and more real than what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>right now. And I say that with knowing that the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years have been crazy. I mean really

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<v Speaker 1>things really started taking off with the pandemic. Obviously, this

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<v Speaker 1>authoritarian push caused this outline, and this was just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of this cause and effect, and we had this authoritarian

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<v Speaker 1>push around the world to lock everything down and control everything,

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<v Speaker 1>which then caused lots of things to happen but I

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<v Speaker 1>want to just pause for a second and let you

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<v Speaker 1>know what we're going to talk about today. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about today how the world has continued to break apart,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically with the wars happening in the Middle East, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to break down I've been sort of somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>silent on this because well, as I did talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it in a YouTube video, but I've been somewhat silent

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<v Speaker 1>about this because, oh, it's so hard to know what

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<v Speaker 1>is going on. You can easily counter either side, you

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<v Speaker 1>can blame either side, you can counter the counter of

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<v Speaker 1>the counter of either side. You can keep going deeper

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<v Speaker 1>and deeper and deeper. And I didn't feel that one

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<v Speaker 1>I knew where the truth was, and two I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I had anything very constructive to say. But

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<v Speaker 1>now that it's been going on for a while, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been digging into it way more than I maybe should

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<v Speaker 1>or need to. And I have some more stuff today,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to come and I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this new world war that's about to begin. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to use history as our guide. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about what's going on in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're going to go through it from a historical perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>so we could try to understand where we're at today

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<v Speaker 1>from a let's say, a neutral lens, and then think

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<v Speaker 1>about how this fits into the glo the greater global

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<v Speaker 1>conflict that we're seeing, and again back into this deglobalization

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<v Speaker 1>or decentralization that we're talking about. All right, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we're going to talk about now. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>things really seem to take off during the pandemic, but

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<v Speaker 1>really it actually started happening before that. So in December

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty nineteen, there were ten countries in the world

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<v Speaker 1>with over one million people each in the streets protesting. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot of this pushback, this US against them,

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<v Speaker 1>the people versus the government, seems to have started during

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<v Speaker 1>this pandemic, like I said, when this authoritarian regime really

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<v Speaker 1>started to kind of put the pressure on governments around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. But really, like I said, it actually in

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<v Speaker 1>December tween nineteen, ten countries had a million people each protesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been one on for a while, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>because of this pendulum that swings back and forth. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about, Now, how does this fit into this

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<v Speaker 1>greater context. Well, now we have this authoritarian push people,

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<v Speaker 1>and really it was sort of this uh, this last

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<v Speaker 1>grasp of power that these states won have. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>per Klaud Schwab's own words and not his own words,

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<v Speaker 1>his own book. Klaus Schwab is the head of the

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<v Speaker 1>World Economic Forum. If you're listening to the show hum,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you know that by now. But he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a book called the Great Reset, that's what he called it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's his book, go read it. And he said that

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<v Speaker 1>we should take advantage of this opportunity to reimagine, to

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<v Speaker 1>reset the world, to build it new. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>they certainly tried to do that. And since then we've

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<v Speaker 1>just seen this continue to escalate. Things really started to

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<v Speaker 1>escalate in Canada when when the trucker started to protest

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<v Speaker 1>against that. Things really started to escalate. With the Russia

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine situation. Of course, now we still have the China

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<v Speaker 1>Taiwan situation. We're going to talk about that later. And

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<v Speaker 1>now in the Middle East things are breaking apart. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I wanted to kind of go back

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<v Speaker 1>through history so you can have a better understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on there and where we're going. And

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<v Speaker 1>again I like to use history because it gives us

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<v Speaker 1>better context of what's going on and right now, what

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to see personally is peace. I think

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<v Speaker 1>most people would like to see peace. Now, there's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>people on both sides that want to kill each other.

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<v Speaker 1>There's certainly that, but I think the majority of people

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<v Speaker 1>in the world just want peace. The question is how

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<v Speaker 1>do we get there? And so that's what we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take a look at. We first have to understand

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<v Speaker 1>that in order to get peace, and this is just

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<v Speaker 1>conflict resolution one on one, in order to get peace,

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<v Speaker 1>both sides have to be able to put themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>other people's shoes. Both sides have to be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>see both sides of the conflict. And unfortunately, that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that mainstream media just doesn't seem to want to facilitate.

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<v Speaker 1>Mainstream media doesn't want to facilitate it. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>members on both sides of the government or all the

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<v Speaker 1>governments that don't want to facilitate this for any number

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons that we can go into. But in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get to peace, that has to happen. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm in a if I'm in a conflict with

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship with my wife or with a friend. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to be willing to stop and put myself into

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<v Speaker 1>their shoes. I have to be willing to have empathy

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<v Speaker 1>and think about where they're coming from. They have to

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to do the same. We both have to

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to make concessions, and we both have to

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to sort of let go of the past

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<v Speaker 1>or we'll never be able to move forward. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>how it works. This is not rocket science here like

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is This is how it works, and

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<v Speaker 1>so in order to have peace, that's what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to happen. But for all of the armchair pundits

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<v Speaker 1>that are getting triggered by what they're seeing at college

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<v Speaker 1>campuses or whatever news channel you're watching, or people jump

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<v Speaker 1>into conclusions, and especially social media. Now I'm certainly going

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<v Speaker 1>to make a case. I was going to do another

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<v Speaker 1>episode today. We'll come back with this probably next week

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<v Speaker 1>on how a lot of this war is actually pushing

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<v Speaker 1>forward this authoritarian agenda, which is censorship of speech. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we know that the end goal is total control

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<v Speaker 1>over our money, over our energy, over our food, and

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<v Speaker 1>that as we get further and further along, there's more

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<v Speaker 1>push back to that and so as the powers that

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<v Speaker 1>be continue to lose their narrative because of the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>has given us this freedom of speech and social media stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>the only way they can continue to hold onto that

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<v Speaker 1>power is through censoring our ability to well just censoring,

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<v Speaker 1>sensoring our ability to have free speech, and which is

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<v Speaker 1>then sensoring our ability to think because now we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have ideas, and also censoring our money. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do a whole show on that. We'll come back

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<v Speaker 1>to that next week. Let me know in the comments

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<v Speaker 1>if you actually want me to do that, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big, big, big lift and I haven't fully committed yet.

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<v Speaker 1>If I want to do that, so let me know,

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<v Speaker 1>hit me up on social media, let me know if

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<v Speaker 1>you want me to do. How this war is really

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<v Speaker 1>being used to push in more censorship, and not just

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<v Speaker 1>in the Middle East. As a matter of fact, just

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<v Speaker 1>today at the time of this recording, I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>news article that came out that in Ukraine they're moving

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of all the Orthodox Christian churches there,

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<v Speaker 1>censoring people's religious freedom in Ukraine. So that's really what

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<v Speaker 1>war is about. It's about censoring. It's happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States as well, we've had laws against the free

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<v Speaker 1>speech in the United States as well, so that's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>something that's happening. But what I did, I went down

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<v Speaker 1>that rabbit hole. The reason why I went down that

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit hole is because social media. As much as I

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<v Speaker 1>do not want to censor it, I want to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to have free speech. Because of the short nature of

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<v Speaker 1>what we see on social media, we're able to quickly

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<v Speaker 1>take things out of context, and we're able to quickly

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<v Speaker 1>jump onto one side of a narrative or another, and

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<v Speaker 1>without the context, we can make good informed decisions. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so again I'm not for censoring it, but mainstream media,

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<v Speaker 1>the governments, the mainstream media people on both sides, and

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<v Speaker 1>just the use of social media, this short form content

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<v Speaker 1>leads to this, and so I want to help stop that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so let me bring context to what this is.

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<v Speaker 1>You can understand now if we look at the Russia

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine situation for a while, I mean, there's both there's

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<v Speaker 1>two sides of that. They say there's three sides to

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<v Speaker 1>every story, right, there's like their side, my side, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's something in the middle. And so of course

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<v Speaker 1>Russia and Ukraine both have their own sides to that,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we can see israel An Israel and Palestine

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<v Speaker 1>have their sides right, and each side want to blame

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<v Speaker 1>the other rather than viewing the events from the current

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<v Speaker 1>historical lens that we're talking about. But I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to fall into that same trap. So we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to help you understand what this global historical lens is.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just tune in, you're listening to the markmas Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to run through this historical context so we

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<v Speaker 1>can see what's happening in this new war that's shaping up.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to miss it, don't go way, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. All right, welcome back. If you're just

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<v Speaker 1>tune in, you're listening to the Mark mass Show, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the new war that's broken out in the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East and how this fits in to the global

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<v Speaker 1>wars that we're having, the deglobalization, and really I want

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<v Speaker 1>to run you through the context of what's going on now.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, there's multiple sides to each story. And

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<v Speaker 1>so just like in Russia and Ukraine, each side seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be fighting for their lives. Maybe in Israel, you

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<v Speaker 1>know they're fighting this existential threat, but so are the Palestinians.

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<v Speaker 1>But really to understand this, we have to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to understand that there's a very long history

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<v Speaker 1>of conflict in the region. And as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we can go back very far, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, but I want to start with a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more recent times because this is where most people

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<v Speaker 1>pick up the story, and we can see if there's

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<v Speaker 1>been this long standing conflict between Israel and Palestine, which

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<v Speaker 1>really began with the declaration of Israel as an independent

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<v Speaker 1>nation state in nineteen forty eight. So you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that Israel went and took the land from the Palestinians,

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<v Speaker 1>which they kind of did, but that's not actually what happened. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened is thousands of Jews did immigrate to Palestinan

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen twenties and the nineteen thirties. When that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>it did result in lots of violent clashes with the

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<v Speaker 1>local Arab population that was there now at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>though they weren't really taking it from the Palestinians because

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<v Speaker 1>at the time the British Empire had control. The British

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<v Speaker 1>Empire was occupying it, and they were attempting to try

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<v Speaker 1>to limit the amount of Jewish immigration that was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>And so as they were trying to keep the Jews out,

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<v Speaker 1>the British, who had control, it made the Jews mad,

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<v Speaker 1>as you might understand. And at the same time the

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<v Speaker 1>British state was trying to support for a Jewish homeland,

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<v Speaker 1>but that enraged the Arabs. The British had control, and obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter which side they made concessions to, the other

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<v Speaker 1>side was going to be angry about it. As this

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<v Speaker 1>was happening, then World War Two broke out. During World

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<v Speaker 1>War two and estimated about six million Jews were murdered

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<v Speaker 1>in Nazi concentration camps. And so after the war, the

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<v Speaker 1>Jews started flooding out of Europe and started flooding into Palestine,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, they viewed this as their homeland,

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<v Speaker 1>which it had been. We're going to go back through

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<v Speaker 1>that history. And then by nineteen forty seven the British

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<v Speaker 1>realized the situation had become unsustainable. All right, So this

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of where we're at today. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>Palestinians are like, hey, this is our land. How would

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<v Speaker 1>you feel if they came and took your land? Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody would like that, right, we could look at this objectionally,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody would like that. But again, it was actually British

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<v Speaker 1>land at the time. The British had ruled it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back further, and then we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up this story. So let's go back a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit further. Because as a matter of fact, this

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<v Speaker 1>part of land right there is like the oldest land

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<v Speaker 1>in the world that we know about. Obviously, all the

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<v Speaker 1>land of the world is the same age, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is the part of the world that we know about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very well documented. As a matter of fact, we

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<v Speaker 1>know about sixteen hundred before christ BC, so that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six hundred years ago or more. We have documentation

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<v Speaker 1>of that land and what was going on there. So

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<v Speaker 1>in sixteen hundred BC, Abraham, the father of the Jewish people,

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<v Speaker 1>went and settled in the land of Israel. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he was a Jew and he was in the

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<v Speaker 1>Land of Israel, and that was his land. Over three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years ago. What happened is there was massive famine

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<v Speaker 1>in the land, and the people of the Jews living

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel went to Egypt to get grain and they

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<v Speaker 1>ended up moving to Egypt. So there was massive famine.

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<v Speaker 1>It went for seven years. If you know your Bible stories,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this, but it's documented throughout secular history as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the Jews left Israel and they went to

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<v Speaker 1>Egypt to get the food, to get the grain. Then

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<v Speaker 1>this goes into the second book of the Bible, Exodus,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Bob Marley made a song about Exodus movement

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<v Speaker 1>of the people. And in twelve hundred BC, the people,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jews, left Egypt and they went back to Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, and so now we see twelve hundred eleven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred BC, the tribes of Israel go back, they settle

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<v Speaker 1>in the land of Israel. So Israel, the Jews lived

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel, they left, they went to Egypt, they came

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<v Speaker 1>back to Israel. Then in one thousand BC, the Kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel is established. King Saul is the very first

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<v Speaker 1>king that's there. One thousand BC, Jerusalem becomes the capital

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<v Speaker 1>of the Kingdom of Israel under now King David nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty BC. The first temple is built by

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<v Speaker 1>in Jerusalem by King Solomon seven twenty two to seven

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty BC. The Kingdom of Israel that's located in

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<v Speaker 1>the northern land of Israel is conquered. So now the

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<v Speaker 1>Jews that have been there for now you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years, almost eight hundred years, they're now conquered by Assyria.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now the tribes of Israel go into exile. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>so the Jews were there, they left, they came back,

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<v Speaker 1>they got conquered. Now they're there by Syria. So all

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<v Speaker 1>of history is a story of one tribe taking over

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<v Speaker 1>another tribe. Since the very beginning of time, we've had

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<v Speaker 1>tribes and they battle over scarce resources, and they fight

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<v Speaker 1>over land, and they fight over food, and one tribe

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<v Speaker 1>takes over another, and one village takes over another, and

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<v Speaker 1>one kingdom takes over another, and all of history is

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<v Speaker 1>a story of this. So, you know, here in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States or in Canada, you hear about the indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>people and their land was taken, but that is factually correct.

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<v Speaker 1>But they took it from someone else before them, and

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<v Speaker 1>they took it from someone else before them, and they

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<v Speaker 1>took it from someone else before them, And so how

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<v Speaker 1>far do you go back? So we can go back,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly as this story started to the nineteen forties when

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<v Speaker 1>the Jews took it from the Palestinians, where I should

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<v Speaker 1>say the British gave it to the Jews. However, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just the last time. So we're going all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back to the beginning of recorded history sixteen hundred BC,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Jews were there, okay, so now let's keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were exiled. The Syrians now took it. So

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<v Speaker 1>now the Jews don't have it anymore. Now Syria has

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<v Speaker 1>it a five eighty six PC the Kingdom of Judah.

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<v Speaker 1>The Jews is now conquered by Babylon. Jerusalem and the

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<v Speaker 1>Temple are completely demolished, laid to waste, and the Jews

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<v Speaker 1>are exiled. So now they're taken out of their own land.

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<v Speaker 1>They are now exiled to Babylon. Now some of the

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<v Speaker 1>Jews remained, but most of them were taken away. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a story of the remnant, the few that were there.

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<v Speaker 1>So they the Jews never totally left the land. There

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<v Speaker 1>was always some that remained. Like I said that, the remnant.

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<v Speaker 1>So now five eighty six they are conquered, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were exiled to Babylon five thirty eight to five point

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen BC. They return. They return. The Jews return from

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<v Speaker 1>Babylon and they rebuild the temple. Three point thirty two BC.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the land of Israel is conquered by Alexander the Great.

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<v Speaker 1>You've probably heard about him. So again they left, they

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<v Speaker 1>came back, they set up their kingdom again, and now

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<v Speaker 1>they're taken over again Alexander the Great. Now we go

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty BC. The Hasmon revolt against the

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<v Speaker 1>Greek Empire in reaction to the constraints imposed on the

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish religious practice. So now there's this revolt. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>Greeks are fighting over the land. To sixty three BC

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<v Speaker 1>the Jews establish independence again. You see how this just

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<v Speaker 1>is a cycle. It just repeats over and over. Now

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three BC, King Herod from Rome now rules the

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<v Speaker 1>land in Israel. Now the temple's expanded, becomes a beautiful temple.

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<v Speaker 1>But in sixty six p see the Jews rebel against

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<v Speaker 1>the Romans. Now because now the Romans control Israel, so

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<v Speaker 1>the Jews rebel against that. And then seventy Now this

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<v Speaker 1>is eighty. So this is now seventy after Christ the

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<v Speaker 1>destruction of Jerusalem, and the Second Temple is built. In

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three the Romans battle to conquer it and the

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<v Speaker 1>Romans takeover. They change the name of Judea to Syria Palestina,

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<v Speaker 1>in the name of Jerusalem to Elia Capitalonia, and Jews

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<v Speaker 1>are forbidden to settle in the land of Israel. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is one hundred and thirty six eighty now, so

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<v Speaker 1>again the Jews are forbidden from being in the land

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel, which they've been in on and off since

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen hundred PC. All right, Now, if you're just tune in,

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to the Mark Maus Show. I'm giving you

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<v Speaker 1>historical context so we can have a better understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on in the world today. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot more to cover when I come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to miss it, so don't go away.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be right back. All right, welcome back. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>just tune in, you're listening to the Mark mass Show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about, as always, the decentralization the world, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're going back through this historical context. We can understand

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in the Middle East. And I'm taking

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<v Speaker 1>you through a long history, went back all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to sixteen hundred BC. And if you're just tune in now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're at six hundred eighty all right, So well, one

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six eighty, the Romans took control of Israel and

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<v Speaker 1>forbid the Jews from being in the land. So one

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six eighty, now we fast forward to so the

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<v Speaker 1>Romans have control. Now we fast forward to six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>eighty and the Persians invade, and the Persians take control,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Arabs conquest in six thirty eight eighty, So

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<v Speaker 1>now the Arabs have control of the land. Six thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight the liberation of Jerusalem from a combined force of

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<v Speaker 1>Persians and Jews. So the so the Arabs now have

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<v Speaker 1>control of that land. But then in ten ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve ninety one, now the Crusader come in, and

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<v Speaker 1>now they take over the land. And then in fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen the Ottoman Empire comes over and takes over the

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<v Speaker 1>land and they rule. Then in eighteen sixty three, so

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred years later, three hundred and thirty years later,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jewish majority comes back into Jerusalem and renew the land.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you starting to get the story here? Nineteen oh one,

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<v Speaker 1>the establishment of the Jewish National Fund, an organization for

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<v Speaker 1>purchasing land for Jewish settlement settlement of the Land of

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<v Speaker 1>Israel comes into place and then there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>history that goes on through here. It starts happening pretty

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<v Speaker 1>quickly here in nineteen sixteen it's called the Sikes Picot Agreement,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was between France and Britain, and they delineated

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<v Speaker 1>the two powers for this Middle Eastern area of rule

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<v Speaker 1>in the Ottoman Empire. And this was right around the time,

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<v Speaker 1>right when the World War for the First World War

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<v Speaker 1>had ended. So now we have frank in Britain having control,

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<v Speaker 1>taking overpower that used to be under the Ottoman Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in nineteen seventeen, a document signed by British

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<v Speaker 1>Foreign Minister Lord Arthur James Balfour espouse a national Home

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<v Speaker 1>for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel. As

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<v Speaker 1>we keep going, nineteen twenty, the San Remo Agreement gave

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<v Speaker 1>Britain rule over the Land of Israel after the fall

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<v Speaker 1>of the Ottoman Empire and ratified the creation of the

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<v Speaker 1>National Home for the Jewish people in the Land of

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<v Speaker 1>Israel under the ages of the British power. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>now the British have power, they have control over the land,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're giving it back to the Jewish people

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<v Speaker 1>who have been in and out of there since sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundred BC. Of course, the Arabs don't like this. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been all around this, and so there's riots start happening,

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<v Speaker 1>all of this starts happening, and now we're sort of

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<v Speaker 1>caught back up into modern time. All right. So this

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<v Speaker 1>has been a hotly contested piece of land. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest piece of land in the world that we have

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<v Speaker 1>documentation for. And the Jews settled in a land in

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen hundred BC and have been in and out of

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<v Speaker 1>that land ever since for over three thousand years. And

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<v Speaker 1>here we are back up to nineteen forty seven when

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<v Speaker 1>after World War II, the British, having control, gave it

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Israelites, to the Jews. I guess all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Now this was also created by the United Nations, and

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<v Speaker 1>so what the United Nations society to do because this

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<v Speaker 1>situation was unsustainable. Even though the British had control gave

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<v Speaker 1>it back to the Jews, the Arabs that were there,

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<v Speaker 1>the Palestinians, still didn't like it, and so there was

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<v Speaker 1>this ongoing war. And so the United Nations stepped in

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<v Speaker 1>to devise a plan, and they said, let's just split

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<v Speaker 1>the land. Here's what we'll do. Let's just split it.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember both sides have concessions. They split the land into

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<v Speaker 1>two sections, and the Jews celebrated and the Arabs were bailed.

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<v Speaker 1>That was May fourteenth, nineteen forty eight, and the day

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<v Speaker 1>the British. That was the day the British troops withdrew

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<v Speaker 1>from Palestine and the State of Israel was declared, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course then violence broke out. So as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>the British troops left, then violence happened. The Muslim countries

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<v Speaker 1>of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and Egypt all attacked the

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<v Speaker 1>newly formed state and secured Arab territory within it. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the remaining Israeli territory, thousands of Palestinians were driven

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<v Speaker 1>out by Israeli forces. So this is where they're driven

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<v Speaker 1>out of their home, which of course they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be happy about. No one's ever happy about this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a good situation to be in. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say, since I didn't say it in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, I don't advocate for any violence. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I started out by saying I want peace. I think

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<v Speaker 1>most people in the world want peace, Like, can't we

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<v Speaker 1>all just get along? Was that Rodney King? Why you

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<v Speaker 1>know you hear about like these, you know, Miss America contestants,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, if I could get anything, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>world peace, Like why can't we just get along? Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>we have human nature and some people are just bad

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<v Speaker 1>and some people want more power control. There's lots of problems.

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<v Speaker 1>There's ideological problems. This is mostly religious wars, so you

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<v Speaker 1>have two very distinct ideologies, and there's obviously lots of

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<v Speaker 1>sex within that. But at this point, now this land

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<v Speaker 1>has been given back and there's wars going out. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it starts to go tit for tat here, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we basically see that all these territories now attack Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>and Israel moves in and they drive the Palestinians out right,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what forms the basis of the base

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<v Speaker 1>of the conflict that's brewing today. The Palestinians were forcely

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<v Speaker 1>removed from their homes. They were and they've never forgot it. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The situation further escalated nineteen sixty seven when Israel seized

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<v Speaker 1>additional territory from Jordan and Syria. So that happened that

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<v Speaker 1>according to a documentary, that was a war in which

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<v Speaker 1>the Arab nations clearly were about to attack Israel. Israel had,

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<v Speaker 1>as it were, both a legal and moral right to

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<v Speaker 1>strike first, as they did strike first. Oh that's their story.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I don't know know the answer. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the truth here all right. As a result of

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<v Speaker 1>Israel's preempt to strike, the Gaza Strip, initially part of Egypt,

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<v Speaker 1>came under control of Israel. Now nineteen seventy three, fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago to this attack that has happened. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise attack on Yam Kapor, and after years of

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing struggle, Egypt and Israel finally met to negotiate peace

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy eight. So again peace was struck out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called the Camp David Accords of nineteen seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and it returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt, while Israel

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<v Speaker 1>kept East Jerusalem and the West Bank, the Golden Heights

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<v Speaker 1>in Syria, and the Gaza Strip. Israel also acquired more

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>than one million Palestinian Arabs who lived in Israeli occupied territories.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mess over there. Then we have the rise

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<v Speaker 1>of Hamas. The accords did nothing to soothe old differences, however,

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and for decades afterwards, Israeli forces in the Palestinian Liberation

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Organization the PLO, carried on hostilities. Peace talks were renewed

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.640
<v Speaker 1>in the early nineteen nineties in Oslo, Norway, resulting in

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 1>a two state solution. So now we start getting into Hamas.

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 1>We start thinking about the Palestinians. They wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed an independent state, and so then the Palistinians were

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<v Speaker 1>able to elect their own government with the territories of

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the West Bank and the Gaza stript. Meanwhile, Jerusalem was

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>meant to be a free city there, but of course,

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 1>surprise surprise, things didn't work out as planned there either.

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand, violent clashes between the two communities resumed.

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and six, Palestinians elected members of a

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>hardline Islamis group called Hamas. The reigning party Fatah ended

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>up with just forty five seats, and so Hamas got

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 1>seventy four seats and won. The problem that we're in now,

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>now that we're caught up here, and hopefully you appreciate

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 1>that this was a pretty neutral stance. This is just history,

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just fact. It is what it is. The problem

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>is now, so Hamas got the majority of the seats,

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>they have the power, they have the control, and in

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Hamas's founding charter it included a commitment to the total

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>destruction of the Israeli state, which is of course a

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>direct violation of the Oslo Peace Accords. So that's sort

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of where we're at right now. Now we can argue

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>either side. Of course they want to completely destroyer and

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 1>they ran them out of their home. If you got

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>ran out of your home, wouldn't you want to go

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.439
<v Speaker 1>to story that person as well? But how far do

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>we go back? That's the question. The question is how

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>far do we go back? And really the question is

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<v Speaker 1>how do we move forward with peace from here? I

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>think that's even the much bigger question because we can

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>see that as of right now. If one side vows

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to kill the other unless they get out of their land,

0:26:58.000 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 1>on the other side decide says we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of land and we'll kill you, how do

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>we have some resolution there? Well, it's going to be

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>very difficult. And if you want to find out what

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I have to say about that, then don't go wakes.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta take a very quick break. If you're just

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>tune in, you listening to the Mark Maas Show, and

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 1>we went through the historical account for three thousand years

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>of what led up to this Middle East war that's

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.479
<v Speaker 1>about to break out or is breaking out. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to come back with more a minute. Don't go await,

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>bear back, all right, welcome back. If you're just tune in,

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you're listening to the Mark Maas Show. We're running through

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>the historical context that led us to the point that

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 1>we're at in the Middle East between Israel and Palestine,

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and not just those two, actually the entire Arab world.

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>So we went through from over three thousand years of

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>history going back to sixteen hundred BC when Abraham the

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Jew first settled in the land of Israel, all the

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>accounts of how they've been taken over and moved back,

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>and taken over and moved back, and all these things

0:27:56.480 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>all the way to where we're at in current times. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is a big issue and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>good answer for this. In the United States, you know,

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>we have this I already kind of mentioned sort of

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>in the United States and Canada, sort of this push

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>towards recognizing these indigenous people. And again I'm not advocating

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>for any type of violence. I don't like I want

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>peace like anybody else. But who has the claim you

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>know under the last piece of cord that to World

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 1>War Two, the deal was is that nobody was supposed

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>to sort of infringe on other people's lands. But of

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>course that continues to happen. I don't have all the

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>answers here. The answers are that we need to put

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>ourselves in each other's shoes. We have to be able

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to make concessions, we have to be able to forgive,

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and we have to be able to move forward. But

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>how do we do that in the light of violence

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>happening around us? That's the bigger question. And then on

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>top of that, how do we do that at a

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>time when the people running the world seem to be

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>wanting the war to happen. Why would they want that

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>to happen. Well, if you remember the last president that

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>was assassinated, John F. Kennedy was assassinated after he made

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a speech talking about the intelligence community and the problems

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that they had caused and how he would splinter them

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>into a thousand pieces. That's what he said, and then

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>he was killed for that. The president before him, Eisenhower,

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>as he was leaving office, he made a speech. Typically

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>after you're done with office or you're on your deathbed,

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you start to get very honest, and he said that

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest threat that this nation had was the military

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>industrial complex. And we don't have to just go back

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>to Eisenheer, We can go all the way back to

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the founding of the United States, when our founding fathers

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>told us that the greatest risk our kids, that us

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>as modern day people and as Americans would face would

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 1>be a country that has standing armies. It's always been

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the military being the greatest threat. And the reason why

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the military industrial complex is such a threat is because

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>if you have a business, the goal of your business

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>is to grow your business. It's to make more money.

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>But when you're in the business of war, that means

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you need more war. Business isn't very good if there's

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>no war. And so we always need this opponent, We

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>always need this boogeyman out there in order for us

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>to continue to invest into new weapons and new arms

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. We can see how you know

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>in there, well, really after since World War Two, but

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>really in the fifties, the sixties, the seventies, we had

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>this cold war between America and Russia, and this led

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the military industrial complex to continue to spend lots and

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>lots of billions of dollars on new technologies and continue

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to build up the military and things like that. But finally,

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>in the late eighties and early nineties, then the USSR

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>finally collapsed. Communism took its toll. The USSR collapsed, and

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, now the US didn't have this

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>big boogieman, They didn't have this big army or this

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>country to fear. What happens with the industrial military industrial

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>complex when they don't have this big enemy out there anymore, Well,

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>they need a new enemy. And so shortly thereafter, all

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the enemy became terrorism. We had the

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Twin Towers that went down, and all of a sudden

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>we had to go bomb the Middle East, and now

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>we had to go after terrorists. Now that the beauty

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>of fighting terrorism for them, since for the military industrial

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>complex is that now we don't just have a country

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that we know where they're at and we can defeat them. No. No,

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>now we have this nameless, faceless enemy who's everywhere and nowhere,

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and there's never a way to defeat them ever. So

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>we have endless wars that can go on forever, and

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>it's an ever growing threat that always has to be managed.

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>And of course we can always stoke up a few

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>more along the way. And so now we have this world.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, that's really in my opinion, it's always

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>been the same, which is what we really have in

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>this world has always been corporatism. Corporatism being corporations and

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>governments working together. And they used to call that fascism.

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Now Klaus Schwab with the World That Coming Forum wants

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>to call that public private partnerships. In the US sometimes

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>we call it crony capitalism or cronyism, whatever you want

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>to call it. It's the same thing. It's businesses working

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>in their own interest with the government to continue to

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>build their businesses. That's what it's always been. And so

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>this military industrial complex wants to continue to stoke more wars.

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>But then we also have other things such as through

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the Middle East, we have massive amounts of energy, so

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>we have oil pipelines, we have gas pipelines, and so

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>there's lots of interest. As a matter of fact, if

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>you look back through most of what happened through the

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Gulf wars after nine to eleven, a lot of it

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>seemed to be going over there to protect the interests

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.719
<v Speaker 1>of some of these rich people or multinational companies, if

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to call it that, securing rights to the energy,

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.719
<v Speaker 1>securing oil pipelines and things like that. It's always been

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>about the money. And so because of that, it makes

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>it very difficult for us to understand what's going on.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>It's the fog of wars, what we call it. And

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>so while on one hand it seems so simple, the

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>other hand, it's like, how do we know this isn't

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>some fake false flag. For example, in Israel net and Yahoo,

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>the prime minister there has been under attack. You know,

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the people in Israel are not happy with the government.

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>They became one of the most authoritarian nations in the

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>world during the COVID pandemic, and there's been so much

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>pushback and the country is starting to reject the leadership

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>or the political leadership that's there. So hmm, well, let's

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>see if they start a proxy war, or i should say,

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>a false flag war, if they start war with Palestine,

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>does that create this sense of nationalism? Does that reignite

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.919
<v Speaker 1>the people to come together for the good of their

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Israel country and then sort of get the blame off

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>of net and Yahoo. Well, I mean, I guess that's possible.

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>That could be something, or could it be something bigger?

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Could it be something about the energy. Could it be

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>that we're trying to stoke a war in the Middle

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>East so that we could limit the supply of energy

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 1>in the Middle East, so we could get them out

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of their position of power. We know that opek Plus

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>is trying to kind of set the price of energy

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 1>and oil. The US doesn't like that. Could we trying

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to limit the entire area so that the US interest

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>of oil and natural gas could prevail. There's certainly a

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>call for that. We can look at what's happening in

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Ukraine as sort of the same way. And so it's

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>very difficult to say. And so that's why, as I

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>said sort of in the beginning when I first started out,

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I've spent thousands of hours studying this

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and talking about this and having discussions about this and

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>reading back to history and trying to understand this the

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>best I can. But the fog of war is so

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>thick that we won't ever know. Now, Like I said,

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.359
<v Speaker 1>what I think should be. The answer is peace, right,

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>and I think that should be the number one goal

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>in everybody's mind is how can we de escalate this situation?

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:26.879
<v Speaker 1>How can we treat each other with respect? How can

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 1>we try to understand both sides? How can we come

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>to a place where we understand that both sides have

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>been wronged? Here this is not a good situation. There

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>is no returning things back. Sometimes things are just bad.

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we just have to deal with what we have

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and we have to try to move forward. And that's

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>exactly where we're at. And so that's my point. I

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure that I've put that out on

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 1>public record. I stand for peace. I'm not for pro

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 1>any of this. I'm for pro people. I'm for pro humanity.

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm for love. I'm for loving each other. I'm for

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>treating each other with tolerance. And that's how I'd like

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to move forward. I am against the evergrowing state. I

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>am against the war longerene, neo con state apparatus of

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the military industrial complex. And I hope that more people

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>could see that the real battle isn't between the people,

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>but between the governments. If you're just tune in, you're

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>listening to the Markmas Show. We've been talking about the

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>way the world is breaking apart from a very long

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>historical lens of what's going on in the Middle East.

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully this brings some context to you. Let me know

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>what you think, hit me up in the comments, hit

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:34.839
<v Speaker 1>me up on social media, and that's what I got.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for listening.