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Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here another edition of

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Speaker 1: Black and Drack on a Thursday morning, and coming up,

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Speaker 1: we are going to tell you exactly what Tyrese Halliburton

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Speaker 1: a pivotal Game six in the NBA Finals. Coming up

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Speaker 1: up next here, Two Pros and a cup of Joe

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Speaker 1: It is two pros and a cup of Joe here

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas notch with you.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take you all the way out per

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Speaker 1: usual until nine am Eastern times, six o'clock Pacific here,

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Speaker 1: and we have got a lot to get to, including

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Speaker 1: what is most likely the end of the road for

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers and their NBA Finals hopes coming up

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Speaker 1: later on tonight as it's Game six between them and

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Speaker 1: the OKAC Thunder. So I know, LeVar, you would already

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Speaker 3: Okay, damn when they lost that game. The way they

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Speaker 3: lost that last game, I think they buried themselves. Okay, well,

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Speaker 3: but it is back in Oka see and it is

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Speaker 3: back now, it's back in Indiana. Yeah, so at least

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Speaker 3: they get a chance to fight for Game seven at home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And so the big question heading into this game

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Speaker 1: Rick Carlile, the head coach, gave a little bit of

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Speaker 4: He participated in all our walkthrough stuff, but it's a walkthrough,

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Speaker 4: so it's not There was no real running or moving

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Speaker 4: a topic that people want to care about and know about,

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Speaker 2: Or early evening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rick, I mean people want to know because, I mean,

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Speaker 1: your season's on the line. He's kind of an important

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Speaker 3: If saying that we're trying to figure out and we're

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Speaker 2: See where he's at with everything. It's it's probably safe

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Speaker 3: think it leads to a bigger question Jonas, And a

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Speaker 2: If they didn't get out of that last game, knowing.

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Speaker 2: Don't have them all at one hundred percent strain.

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Speaker 1: And now I would say this if Halliburton's a game

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Speaker 1: now you're seeing why the layer upon layer that Oka

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Speaker 3: the games, is if they have a chance to They

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Speaker 3: But if they have a chance to get to a

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Speaker 3: Game seven and possibly get Haliburton a little bit more

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Speaker 3: takes all. I think that becomes a very interesting situation

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Speaker 3: if they can pull it off, Probably not going to happen,

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Speaker 1: Though, Tyrese Haliburton. He did talk about the scenario and

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Speaker 3: How smart do you have to be, I guess in

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it depends on who you ask. I

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Speaker 5: be able to understand the risks. That's the right questions.

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Speaker 2: Not I'm a competitor. I want to play.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna do everything about power to play, and uh

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Speaker 1: Now. This does bring up an interesting question when it

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Speaker 1: comes to exactly what Tyrese Haliburton will look like when

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Speaker 1: we get to Game six coming up later on tonight,

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Speaker 1: and how this can be remedied. You have spoke glowingly

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Speaker 2: You want to set it up the captain of the ship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the well, no, the the nectar of the gods.

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Speaker 1: All right, is this a tordal situation that we could

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Speaker 2: Will ye? Man? Literally? I mean figurative.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I got you. I just figured out play off

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Speaker 3: of your words right there. It's definitely a nectar situation. Okay,

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Speaker 1: How many shots? How many shots.

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Speaker 1: And how long before the game to know that you're

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Speaker 1: still have a leg.

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Speaker 3: And wow, boy do I feel bad. But in that

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Speaker 3: moment he'll be okay. I think it's going to have

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Speaker 3: To pay for the contract contracts that that are involved.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've been to the playoffs every year except

438
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Speaker 1: for one under Matt Lafleur. And if say this year

439
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Speaker 1: there's an injury to quarterback god forbid, or they you know,

440
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Speaker 1: run up with just bad injury luck, stuff that's outside

441
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Speaker 1: of their control, and say they have a down year

442
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Speaker 1: and for Matt la or a down year is eight

443
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Speaker 1: and nine. That's what he did a couple of years ago.

444
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Speaker 1: Now you go into next season, like, why would this

445
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Speaker 1: even need to be a conversation because I think then

446
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Speaker 1: the question would become, well, why are you giving him

447
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Speaker 1: a contract extension? Now, why didn't you just do it

448
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Speaker 1: the previous year? And again, this is not like it's

449
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Speaker 1: time sensitive. It's not like, well, you know, they have

450
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Speaker 1: to get it done. It's just interesting to hear him

451
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Speaker 1: make the comment that I don't generally like people going

452
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Speaker 1: into lame duck situations. I think, you know, going into

453
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Speaker 1: that final year, we kind of have an understanding where

454
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Speaker 1: the relationship is at. Well, no, you should have an

455
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Speaker 1: understanding where the relationship and the work is at based

456
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Speaker 1: on the work that they've already done. Like Taven, they've

457
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Speaker 1: done a hell of a job taking over in a

458
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Speaker 1: difficult spot with a quarterback change. Part of like Matt

459
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Speaker 1: Lafleur has proven his worth that hey, this isn't a

460
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Speaker 1: lot of the discussion about Lafleur when he got the

461
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Speaker 1: job was well can he do it without Aaron Rodgers? Okay,

462
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Speaker 1: like he has. I mean, yeah, they won a super Bowl. No,

463
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Speaker 1: they haven't won a super Bowl. But if you're grading

464
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Speaker 1: on that scale, well, if you want your contract extension,

465
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to win a super Bowl. There's thirty

466
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Speaker 1: one dudes at the end of the year that are like, oh,

467
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Speaker 1: I guess I'm not getting a contract extension. It just

468
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Speaker 1: it feels it feels like you're setting this up to

469
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Speaker 1: be a bigger discussion next year, when you could just

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Speaker 1: squash it and get it done with now because he's

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Speaker 1: already earned it.

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 3: It just seems like that would be the simple, sensible

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Speaker 3: way of approaching it. But you just never know the

475
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Speaker 3: what and the why for certain things that take place.

476
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Speaker 3: It could just be as simple as they want to Wait,

477
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Speaker 3: it could be very simple like no no hidding, uh,

478
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Speaker 3: you know, hitting agendas or anything like that, no secret operations.

479
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Speaker 2: It just they they mean what they say.

480
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Speaker 3: It could be they're trying to set a tone, and

481
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Speaker 3: you know, coach sure is something that is a really

482
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Speaker 3: big deal, you know, in all things that take place.

483
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Speaker 3: So I don't know, maybe they're setting a tone for

484
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Speaker 3: the players, you know, don't approach us about extensions and

485
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Speaker 3: stuff like that. We don't even do it for our

486
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: GM and for our head coach, don't. I don't really

487
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Speaker 3: know what the purpose is. I just know you're right.

488
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Speaker 3: They continue to get results. They have been considered to

489
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Speaker 3: be a competitive team. It didn't end the way that

490
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Speaker 3: they would have liked for it to end it. Last

491
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 3: year seemed like there was a bit of a drop off.

492
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Speaker 3: But this team this year, with the personnel that they have,

493
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Speaker 3: there really should be no reason why they're not right

494
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Speaker 3: in the thick of it coming out of the NFC.

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Speaker 3: And I mean for a super Bowl challenge, to get

496
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Speaker 3: to the super Bowl, that's how good I think this

497
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Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers team, you know, can be going into

498
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Speaker 3: this season. So you know, they have put together a

499
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Speaker 3: really really fine and just maybe they're looking at it like,

500
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Speaker 3: look at what you have on this roster, My guy,

501
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Speaker 3: My guys, you need to show that what we got

502
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Speaker 3: going on here with this personnel, you.

503
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Speaker 2: Can drive this car.

504
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Speaker 3: Now, what direction do you go in if you go

505
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Speaker 3: away from Lafleur after he's done what he's done. It

506
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Speaker 3: comes back to my original point Jonas that I'll lean

507
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Speaker 3: into is that that puts more pressure on the decision

508
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Speaker 3: makers who didn't make the move to keep the GM

509
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Speaker 3: or to keep the head coach because they were getting

510
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Speaker 3: positive getting positive results.

511
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Speaker 1: That divisions, in my mind, one of the more interesting

512
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, just based on the fact that I

513
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: have no idea really what to expect because I could

514
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: see a world where Detroit runs it back because they

515
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: are so talent, But then again, you lose both your coordinators.

516
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Speaker 1: We know how this league works. Like they had a

517
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: lot of things land in their favor last year. You

518
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Speaker 1: can't really expect that to happen two years in a row.

519
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: Last year felt like their year. They could be set

520
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: up for a down year. Minnesota is putting all their faith,

521
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Speaker 1: as we laid out earlier this week in JJ McCarthy,

522
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: who's in essence a rookie, he's never played before, and

523
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Speaker 1: they feel like, yeah, that's why we just said no

524
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Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers, That's why we're going this direction, because

525
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: it was Jeremy Fowler reported. They've got this three year

526
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Speaker 1: super Bowl plan. The Bears have added a bunch of

527
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Speaker 1: talent to help Caleb Williams. Ben Johnson's a newcomer there,

528
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Speaker 1: and then you've got the Packers and it's almost like,

529
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Speaker 1: I have you could set any order other than maybe

530
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Speaker 1: the Bears winning the division and after that, but you

531
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Speaker 1: could set any order in that division before the year,

532
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Speaker 1: and I would buy into and could see those scenarios

533
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Speaker 1: play out. In the NFC North, it's just a yearly

534
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: really wild division to try and project going in the

535
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Speaker 1: next season.

536
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Speaker 3: It'll be a fun it'll be a fun division to

537
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: watch and to track. What direction is Minnesota, you know,

538
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: trending in It's it's hard, Like you said, it's kind

539
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: of hard to pinpoint what you think they'll be. I

540
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: think we'll probably find out pretty quickly what type of

541
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Speaker 3: team they'll look like. I wonder if we'll be able

542
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: to get an idea of it in preseason. Probably really

543
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: hard to do. But it'll be interesting to see how

544
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Speaker 3: much they play McCarthy to get him reps, impactful reps

545
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Speaker 3: before they get to the regular season. I think what

546
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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold did this past season puts a lot of

547
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Speaker 3: pressure on JJ McCarthy to come out of the gate swinging,

548
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Speaker 3: swinging big, and you know, people are gonna want to

549
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Speaker 3: know what that looks like. And when you look at

550
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Speaker 3: the other teams, people are, like you mentioned, like that,

551
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Speaker 3: there's there's some relative unknowns with Chicago and what they're

552
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Speaker 3: going to do, but a lot of people are excited

553
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: about the you know, the coaching higher that they made

554
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: and what that could mean for the future. But again,

555
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 3: you know, the way Caleb Williams talked about how things

556
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: were done and a lack of attention to him knowing

557
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: what you know, he needed to do, and you know,

558
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: the development that he was was seeking wasn't there this

559
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: this past season. I think that puts a lot of

560
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: pressure on him, and it puts a lot of pressure

561
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Speaker 3: on this coaching staff because if he doesn't have a

562
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: good year, which he didn't have a bad year this year,

563
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Speaker 3: just I just think the expectations are so high that

564
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: and and then to see the comp and what jayde

565
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: Daniels did in his rookie year and what you know,

566
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Speaker 3: obviously Stroud did.

567
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Speaker 2: In his year prior to his rookie year.

568
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Speaker 3: I think that people had high expectations for Caleb Williams

569
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Speaker 3: to be something more than what he ended up being.

570
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Speaker 3: But I don't think that he's not on schedule to

571
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: be superstar franchise quarterback in this league.

572
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: But it is still a conversation to be had.

573
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Speaker 3: So and then you look at losing all of your

574
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: coordinators and Detroit, what does that look like? But they

575
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Speaker 3: get Hutchinson back, which is a big get. I think

576
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: that they're they're still poised to have a good year.

577
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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be pretty competitive but as

578
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Speaker 3: you mentioned, I do believe that this is a pivotal

579
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Speaker 3: year for a team like Green Bay because of the

580
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: amount of talent that they have on the team, you know,

581
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Speaker 3: And that's that's the ultimately the reality that that Matt

582
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: lafleur and and goun Kunz is facing going into this season.

583
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Speaker 3: You have no reason, with all of the questions surrounding

584
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Speaker 3: your division to come out on top of your division.

585
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Speaker 1: You know what's uh And you pointed this out before,

586
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: but this it bears repeating because people probably take whatever

587
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: the narrative or the optics are and run with that

588
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: as opposed to the actual numbers. Killb Williams didn't have

589
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: a bad year. I mean, if you just go back

590
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: and look through and look through the numbers, you could

591
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: argue he had a better year than Jordan Love, he

592
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: had a better year than Jalen Hurts. Again, these are

593
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: just numbers. We're just looking at numbers. But it's funny how,

594
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Speaker 1: just based on the presentation of the chaos that was

595
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: the Bears last year, how people just assume all another

596
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: number one pick who didn't pan out, or another high

597
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: drafted quarterback who didn't pan out. It's like that's one

598
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: to look at and go, all right, well, if he

599
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: was able to do that and operate in that circus tent,

600
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: what could he do potentially in this one this year

601
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: when things are a little bit more buttoned up and

602
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: there's actual protection on the offensive line and all that.

603
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: It's just it's funny when you bring that up, how

604
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: people look at the storyline as opposed to the actual

605
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: numbers and watch game by game to see what actually

606
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: was going on last year in Chicago.

607
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Speaker 3: I mean, I just think it still raises the stakes

608
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Speaker 3: that he blamed, you know, and he took, Like, make

609
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: no mistake about Caleb Williams took a lot of the

610
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Speaker 3: blame on his own shoulders. So let's not act as

611
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Speaker 3: though he was brushing off the responsibility of taking taking

612
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Speaker 3: the weight of why the team didn't do better than

613
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Speaker 3: what it did. But he did raise some points that

614
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: basically would lean towards the side of why the hell

615
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Speaker 3: would you do that when you had that type of

616
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Speaker 3: a talent, Why would you allow for him to feel

617
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Speaker 3: that way when he's your number one draft pick and

618
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 3: what people had such high expectations and high hopes for

619
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Speaker 3: coming into it. It seems as though you didn't like

620
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Speaker 3: your job very much as a head coach. If that's

621
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Speaker 3: how you let things get handled.

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Speaker 1: It's the Bears. Well maybe that's a simple explanation, which

623
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: is crazy.

624
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: It's just crazy to think at the pro level, and

625
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 3: we talk about how hard guys fight to get coaching

626
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: jobs and how many worthy, you know, prospects are out there.

627
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: Then people get into the whole inclusion deal and stuff

628
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: like that. There's all kinds of different conversations, but it

629
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: is so competitive. There's only thirty two of those positions

630
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: out there. So to think that one of those thirty two,

631
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Speaker 3: you had the number one overall draft pick, a former

632
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Speaker 3: Heisman Trophy winner, a very very gifted and talented player

633
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: coming into your organization, and you left all of that

634
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: on the table in terms of how you prepared him,

635
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: how you trained him, and what his knowledge level of

636
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: what it was going to look like and be like

637
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Speaker 3: going into these games at the pro level.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a hit scratcher.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is two pros and a cup of Joe

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Speaker 1: Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with

641
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Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of a copycat situation in the

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Speaker 1: It, and for that we turn it over to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer, Lea lap Good morning everybody, Good morning Jones

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Speaker 1: are Good morning LeVar. Guys.

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Speaker 7: In case you miss this, I think we've seen this

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Speaker 7: all before. The Stanley Cup has been dented and bruised,

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Speaker 7: according to reports in the wee hours of the morning

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Speaker 7: following the Panthers win the other night.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you can see pictures of it.

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Speaker 7: The rim of the bowl of the Stanley Cup has

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Speaker 7: been cracked open. I don't know if this happened at

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Speaker 7: Elbow Bar where they were partying and Fort Lauderdale following

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Speaker 7: the following the wind and also the base has been

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Speaker 7: dented pretty pretty darly. But they say they're going to

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Speaker 7: repair the Stanley Cup before the parade on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Now, did you guys see that they were pouring beer

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Speaker 1: in the Stanley Cup and then pouring it over the

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Speaker 1: ledge at Is it elbow room or Elbow Bar elbow Bar?

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, okay, well, well I always thought it was

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Speaker 7: Elbow Room, but it says elbo Bar in this report

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Speaker 7: that I'm reading, Well.

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Speaker 1: It's probably a nerd who doesn't drink. It's probably who

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Speaker 1: wrote the report. But they were putting beer in the

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Speaker 1: Stanley Cup and then dipping it over the balcony for

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Speaker 1: the people outside, which if we're being fair here and

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Speaker 1: again not to criticize, but we're just we got to

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Speaker 1: tell the actual true story here. That was stolen from

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and nine Pittsburgh Penguins. That was stolen

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Speaker 1: a clear theft and a borderline violation because it was

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Speaker 1: the Penguins at Mario's South Side Saloon who did that

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Speaker 1: after they won the Cup over there on Carson Street

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Speaker 1: bar where they poured booze in the Stanley Cup and

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Speaker 1: then we're dumping it over the balcony. Clearly the Florida

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Speaker 1: Panthers have stolen that, and I hope that the two

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Speaker 1: thousand and nine Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins get the

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Speaker 1: credit they deserve.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's a fun conversation to have to see,

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Speaker 3: how you know, certain trophies are from the sport to

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Speaker 3: sport are are used once they're won. I mean, only

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Speaker 3: one team gets the chance to hold on to it

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Speaker 3: and play with it. And mess around with it and

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Speaker 3: pass it around. I mean, you know, they were passing

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Speaker 3: the Lombardi Trophy from boat the boat at one point

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Speaker 3: in time in football. So I mean, you know, you

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Speaker 3: just when you're happy about winning it all, which is

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Speaker 3: something that I can only imagine is one of the

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Speaker 3: greatest feelings of all time. I mean, hey, sometimes there

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Speaker 3: are casualties of the spoils that are are reaped by

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Speaker 3: the winner, the victor, and sometimes it's the trophy that's

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Speaker 3: involved in the casualties.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it just is what it is.

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Speaker 1: There is no shot in how oh that that thing

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Speaker 1: is clean enough to either eat out of or drink

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Speaker 1: out of I mean drinking, I mean drinking out of it.

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Speaker 1: I can I there's alcohol.

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Speaker 3: Germs live, and can germs live in championship areas?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 3: Like can can germs and bacteria exist on something that

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Speaker 3: is such an amazing you know, a piece of accomplishment?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 2: That's that would be the question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's it's like when.

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Speaker 2: You see those are championship general.

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Speaker 1: It's like when you see them clean the clean a

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Speaker 1: table that you that you're sitting down at, and like, oh,

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Speaker 1: let me wipe that off for you, and they pull

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Speaker 1: out this dirty wash rag to clean the table at

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Speaker 1: the restaurant. Did you just covered up a bums wound

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Speaker 1: in the parking lot with that, and you're going to

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Speaker 1: clean my table with it. I'm supposed to have tater

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Speaker 1: tots on this thing. With all all that crap on it,

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Speaker 1: it just feels like it's never gonna get cleaned.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna drink them garms. Dang