Speaker 1: What up, guys.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to my conversation with my brother. If you
Speaker 2: guys didn't listen to the first part, because it's now
Speaker 2: the second part, listen to the first part of the
Speaker 2: conversation with my brother Mike. Okay, big Mike, not Mikey
Speaker 2: no more. All right, So here we go. Have you
Speaker 2: forgiven yourself yet for the relationship with Luna's mom not
Speaker 2: working because I know that weight heavy on you for
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 3: I think we're at a good understanding me here now
Speaker 3: where it's it's good. It was probably never going to
Speaker 3: work out.
Speaker 1: You guys were just meant to make this beautiful being.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, and we just we climbed together
Speaker 3: really quick and then just find out over time, like
Speaker 3: we were within a year of being together, we were
Speaker 3: pregnant with Luna. And then, you know, she says that
Speaker 3: the day Mom passed, I changed, you know, and that
Speaker 3: I have no point of reference because I don't remember
Speaker 3: that person anymore, you know. Yeah, And so I'm sorry
Speaker 3: for that for you know, using that as justification for
Speaker 3: any like stupid decisions I made, or or just letting
Speaker 3: it go, or feeling like relief when she left me,
Speaker 3: you know, because it wasn't like we were at odds
Speaker 3: and it was a and you know, it's it's easier
Speaker 3: to run away than to fucking re find out why
Speaker 3: he loved somebody, you know, And so I mean I
Speaker 3: stort of regret now, like, you know, not not waking
Speaker 3: up with Luna in my house every morning, you know,
Speaker 3: or not always being able to take her to school
Speaker 3: or pick her up because she you know, for for
Speaker 3: a while there we both lived in the valley, so
Speaker 3: it wasn't too far and it was possible. But now
Speaker 3: there's you know, there's more distance there, and it's just yeah,
Speaker 3: but I mean we're in a good understanding. Luna understands
Speaker 3: and if anything, like me and her mom have in
Speaker 3: the past couple of years, we had a couple of
Speaker 3: rough patches, but in the past year we've gotten really
Speaker 3: good and we can like kind of talk again that
Speaker 3: that I missed sad because me and Dre were legit
Speaker 3: like like really good friends, you know, and even after
Speaker 3: we'd broken up. Luna, it's weird for her sometimes, like
Speaker 3: she's just like she gets bugged out and her mom
Speaker 3: will be like, your dad's my friend, like this is
Speaker 3: he's he's my really good friend, Like and she's just like,
Speaker 3: can we just go already, Like there'll be here.
Speaker 1: Talking and like's just he's uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's just like this is weird, and like
Speaker 3: that makes me sad because she doesn't remember having a
Speaker 3: whole family and I get to redo that again, you know.
Speaker 3: And and it's not always easy, but it's like it's
Speaker 3: definitely worth I'm a big believer in the nuclear family
Speaker 3: and in the way that we're going in the world.
Speaker 3: It's it's discouraged or it's a lie or yeah, because
Speaker 3: it can't work out for everybody, but there's having a
Speaker 3: mom and a dad in the same household and the
Speaker 3: mom and the dad being able to communicate.
Speaker 1: And and it makes a big difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the baby having all the love possible spell
Speaker 3: I lives with us, so she just has she has
Speaker 3: she's with her grandma all the time, and she's getting
Speaker 3: love from all these angles. And Luna's a really good
Speaker 3: but there's.
Speaker 1: Not a hint of jealousy and like, goodness, that's the
Speaker 1: perfect time.
Speaker 3: That you know, and it's like, you know, it just
Speaker 3: sucks that I missed out on that because of my decisions.
Speaker 3: And I'll take full blame for that, you know, for
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Just a lot. Brother.
Speaker 2: That means that you've That's why I wanted to ask
Speaker 2: you that, because you also have to remember you both
Speaker 2: were so young, you know what I mean, Like, I
Speaker 2: howld were you like twenty twenty one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a new mom for half of her life? Yeah? Crazy? Right,
Speaker 3: She's forty two when she passed. I was twenty one,
Speaker 3: and damn dude, you pa And if I'm lucky, I
Speaker 3: would have known her a third of my life, you know,
Speaker 3: Like I don't know how far I'm gonna make it.
Speaker 1: I don't know this, please Lord.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, it's just like at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, it's going to be a really small
Speaker 3: portion of time of life that I had her, you know.
Speaker 3: But she came at the perfect time because I would,
Speaker 3: you know, damn well, especially at.
Speaker 1: That time, called Luna his life saver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I would. I would have lost my mind,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: But it was how many months she was three months?
Speaker 1: Three months when my mom passed.
Speaker 2: I feel like telling you God, everything was like wait,
Speaker 2: because I think it would have been a disaster if
Speaker 2: we didn't have Luna, for you know.
Speaker 3: I would have for sure went off. It changed us.
Speaker 3: I still have you know, bad habits and things that
Speaker 3: I'm trying to correct and like that would have been
Speaker 3: too much. And then also I was very guarded under Mom. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's like without having that, you know, without having
Speaker 3: or not not because she I don't think she purposely
Speaker 3: kept us for experience. I just she kind of knew
Speaker 3: my tendencies and my you know, to kind of go
Speaker 3: an old direction I wasn't supposed to go. And if
Speaker 3: I didn't, if I didn't have that there and Luna
Speaker 3: there to keep me and keep me level headed, I
Speaker 3: would have been using it as an excuse to just
Speaker 3: fucking go off and be the fucking graffiti writer I'd
Speaker 3: always wanted to be. And yeah, just not giving ship
Speaker 3: and just fucking you know, I would.
Speaker 1: Have been completely different. Oh absolutely, I mean it changed us.
Speaker 1: Losing Mom. It was learning how to live and all
Speaker 1: over again.
Speaker 3: It was tough.
Speaker 2: So I mean the fact that you can be vulnerable
Speaker 2: and talk about it and accept it, that's like huge
Speaker 2: a lot of people, don't you know, and well mom
Speaker 2: talk about Mom or talk about also the mistakes that
Speaker 2: you also, like you could say, hey, it was it
Speaker 2: was my fault I messed that up or whatever like
Speaker 2: and forgive yourself for it and say, give yourself some
Speaker 2: grace and give yourself some like space to say, hey,
Speaker 2: I messed up, but I'm trying to fix it, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And and you guys tell me I'm not nice enough
Speaker 3: to myself, But I think in the moment, in the
Speaker 3: subjects that matter, I do give myself grace or I
Speaker 3: allow myself grace or be like, you know you did that,
Speaker 3: How are you going to react now? Yeah, So I
Speaker 3: might beat myself up the rest of the time, but
Speaker 3: that's only because I don't know, I don't think. But
Speaker 3: talking to myself positively works for me. You know, are
Speaker 3: telling myself that I'm the greatest and I'm worthy of
Speaker 3: this is and it's like.
Speaker 1: You're a man, you're more logical.
Speaker 3: Well, I have to prove it to myself, you know, like,
Speaker 3: because as it is, I don't believe believe myself. So
Speaker 3: if there's anyone out there in the world I need
Speaker 3: to prove wrong, it's me. It's that back part of
Speaker 3: me that has doubt, like you know, like I'm going
Speaker 3: to show you you, you know, like I'm gonna show
Speaker 3: you you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, but it does help to to
Speaker 2: just say, you know, polit you got this ship, dude,
Speaker 2: you got Like I try.
Speaker 3: But the thing is when with especially because I'm new
Speaker 3: to affirmation and so maybe just like general happy ones
Speaker 3: don't necessarily work for me, but a great affirmation is
Speaker 3: all right, what do you need to improve on today,
Speaker 3: or what do you need to what do you need
Speaker 3: to be avoiding or you know, like like I've been.
Speaker 3: I've been. I got back in my fast and fucked
Speaker 3: holities fucked me up, but I got back into it
Speaker 3: and then like so, but when I when I am
Speaker 3: and I'm like I'm hungry and I'm pushing past it,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know, it's it's like that's like,
Speaker 3: that's an affirmation for me. It's like, no, you can
Speaker 3: have self control and you're not You're not controlled by
Speaker 3: every single little impulse that you have to go do
Speaker 3: something stupid or just like you know, I try to
Speaker 3: be the level headed one, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, and you are honestly like you. I think
Speaker 2: we have a little bit of everything in our little
Speaker 2: in our family and our sibling you know family. But
Speaker 2: that's what I love about you because when you speak
Speaker 2: like there's a lot of like right now, you're you're
Speaker 2: leaving a lot of little I'm here and I love it,
Speaker 2: like a lot of little bites. I'm like listening to you,
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, this is fucking awesome, Like I have
Speaker 2: such a glad, very natural, like yeah, it's we're having
Speaker 2: a conversation, and these are our conversations, you guys on
Speaker 2: our group chat. We talk about some real ship, Like
Speaker 2: we go back and forth, we have discussions. We don't
Speaker 2: always agree, but he knows that. I'm just like, that's
Speaker 2: so cheeky.
Speaker 3: I'm also it's always me and you kind of yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, and but that's okay, dude. It's not like
Speaker 3: we're completely different people. And I need your your unrelenting
Speaker 3: positivity sometimes, you know, like you know, like yeah, when
Speaker 3: you tell me I'm the greatest, some days, I'm just
Speaker 3: like she's full of shit. She doesn't know. Other days
Speaker 3: it gets through, you know. And but I need the
Speaker 3: days when I'm the lowest, like sometimes like you might
Speaker 3: not even know because I try to charge I don't know.
Speaker 3: I also wear my emotions on my.
Speaker 2: Sleeves before we move on, because I wanted to do
Speaker 2: a little something with you a little game. But a
Speaker 2: lot of people always wonder like, why is myke like
Speaker 2: more or Mike? You know, Mike, Why is Mike like
Speaker 2: so like behind the scenes because you're not in the limelight,
Speaker 2: which I think is awesome.
Speaker 1: Do you do that to protect.
Speaker 2: Yourself or do you do that more because you don't
Speaker 2: want to deal with all the bullshit that it like
Speaker 2: goes on with it? Or is it just you're just
Speaker 2: happier that way, Like what is it?
Speaker 3: Onions have layers, I'm just kidding, but there's multiple layers
Speaker 3: to it. Okay, what happened when I was I think fifteen,
Speaker 3: with you know, one of my friends leading other dickheads
Speaker 3: to break into the house while we were gone?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, that from then on because.
Speaker 3: I think before that I was probably a lot more
Speaker 3: bubbly and nice, and I still am that way, but
Speaker 3: now it's just like, I'm nice to everyone from a distance,
Speaker 3: but there's only so many people that get close and
Speaker 3: I don't like that. But that's it was a defense
Speaker 3: mechanism for him from back then. Yeah, and then I
Speaker 3: got into graffiti and then so it's like, and the
Speaker 3: cool thing about that was that for a little bit. Anyways,
Speaker 3: because now people who know know that, oh that's Journey
Speaker 3: sent and he writes this and he's from here and
Speaker 3: hangs out with these guys or whatever, because everything everything
Speaker 3: is word of mouth. But for a long for a
Speaker 3: little bit, it was like, this is cool because this
Speaker 3: has to do with me. This is nothing to do
Speaker 3: with my family or my face or my name, and like, yeah,
Speaker 3: so a lot of it came to that, and that
Speaker 3: was like all the pictures of me from before I'm
Speaker 3: eighteen on the cover in my face, you know, like yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, or like just like that was just my thing.
Speaker 3: And then like I took fame really different from everybody,
Speaker 3: just because it just didn't feel real because I was
Speaker 3: famous one for being Mom's son, and I had always
Speaker 3: I accepted I'm her son, but I wanted to become
Speaker 3: something on my own. And then like even though we
Speaker 3: were ourselves on the show, you know, it's like there's
Speaker 3: nothing I could constantly say that the riveras or I
Speaker 3: love Jenny. None of that was scripted. That was all
Speaker 3: genuinely us. I still don't think that's the best reputation
Speaker 3: representation of myself, and that's not I'm not I don't
Speaker 3: look back on that it's like, oh, I'm super proud
Speaker 3: of that, and are there are fun moments that we
Speaker 3: wouldn't have lived in some cases without it? Yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: we wouldn't have had certain memories without that, And I
Speaker 3: accept that. But at the end of the day, like
Speaker 3: it brought a lot of attention that didn't feel earned,
Speaker 3: and it just didn't feel like it was genuinely because
Speaker 3: of me. Like, so I think you had to do
Speaker 3: a lot with that and.
Speaker 1: People to love you for you, for Michael.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then the last layer was it just some
Speaker 3: of some of some of the Mom's fans a little crazy,
Speaker 3: you know what? Wait, just they would like people would
Speaker 3: like go like just for for years, Like I would
Speaker 3: have to hear about it from like people bothering Dre
Speaker 3: and her dms, you know, like okay, or like you know,
Speaker 3: you know other exes, like people thinking and this is
Speaker 3: not just people that are haters. It's people that think
Speaker 3: that they love us, you know, in the same way
Speaker 3: that there's people that love Mom so much that they'll
Speaker 3: attack you because they think that that's showing love. And
Speaker 3: so people would like try to they'd be like messaging
Speaker 3: X my ex and be like, oh, you're not good
Speaker 3: enough for him. You're a fucking gold digger. Not knowing
Speaker 3: this girl had two jobs and not knowing that she
Speaker 3: dealt with her own like depression and her own her
Speaker 3: own insecurity and stuff, and like yeah, and it's like
Speaker 3: that's fun, that's yeah. So after that, I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, you guys don't get this anymore. And then
Speaker 3: even with with with Nova, like those moments are they're
Speaker 3: precious and it's not like, oh, I'm holding this off
Speaker 3: from the world, but I'm still locked in in that moment,
Speaker 3: like yeah, I get the feeling. You're like, oh, I
Speaker 3: got to take picture and send it to my siblings,
Speaker 3: and for me.
Speaker 2: That's all that Like look, you guys' Instagram show, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you enjoy enjoy being private.
Speaker 3: The last last part is I don't think people deserve it.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: My following doesn't. This doesn't deserve it, you know, because
Speaker 3: that's all they all they care about is not all day.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry because I don't mean to offend anyone, but genuinely,
Speaker 3: the same reason they want to know about my personal
Speaker 3: life is like the rest of you know, it's like
Speaker 3: episodic TV, like you want to know about every character. Oh,
Speaker 3: and this character goes this way and this one and
Speaker 3: this one pops up in the sixth season, and like
Speaker 3: they's so they want that, like you know, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like, let me just checking on these people. But
Speaker 3: when it comes to like last time I did my
Speaker 3: my friend's small podcast, like and I was checking the
Speaker 3: views just because I wanted to help him out, and nobody,
Speaker 3: like it was like there was hours had passed and
Speaker 3: nobody was like, oh, let me give this a click,
Speaker 3: you know. And I don't hold that against people, but
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm definitely not just gonna what I'm gonna
Speaker 3: start just posting shit just based on what people want
Speaker 3: to see, because that's not what I that's what I'm not,
Speaker 3: not what I want. But I don't feel the need
Speaker 3: to present that to the world. I don't need to
Speaker 3: be like my whole being is being a parent or
Speaker 3: being an autism parent or Jenny's Sun. There's so much
Speaker 3: more complexities to me and if like if there's because
Speaker 3: I don't, maybe i'd be more if my life depended
Speaker 3: on it. But like I got lucky to find this
Speaker 3: pocket of work where I don't need I don't need
Speaker 3: to put it out every day I don't need to
Speaker 3: like search for likes and stuff or whatever. And I'm
Speaker 3: blessed because God knows it's uncomfortable for me. Like even
Speaker 3: like posting stuff with my work, like it fucks up
Speaker 3: the whole day because I have to think, like, oh,
Speaker 3: I got to make sure we get this, and I
Speaker 3: gotta get this and get this. It's a whole time
Speaker 3: to get out. And on the days when I just
Speaker 3: tell myself just don't fucking worryorry about it, like just paint,
Speaker 3: do a great job, get a good final picture, and
Speaker 3: you're ready, those are the days. Yeah, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: and then I I when when I am dedicated too much,
Speaker 3: I get too much footage. It's too damn long. No
Speaker 3: one's holding their attention that long. And it's like, I
Speaker 3: do need to get better at it, and eventually I'll
Speaker 3: pay somebody to do that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when I finally let that go, like.
Speaker 3: I lived at a lot more peace, And I delete
Speaker 3: Instagram off my phone at least once every other couple
Speaker 3: of months.
Speaker 2: I know, since I'm like I'm searching, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: where's Mikey. He okay, he deactivated. It's cool, It's normal.
Speaker 3: Those days go better up here right now. I'm just
Speaker 3: like even the other day, I'm like, dude, you've been
Speaker 3: scrolling for this shit too long, like you need to
Speaker 3: be doing something else, or even if I'm fucking I
Speaker 3: don't know, I just like I'm not comfortable spending my time,
Speaker 3: and I know I'm also conscious of my own bad habits,
Speaker 3: like I always got to go to common sections like oh,
Speaker 3: let me find the dumb ass in here that's about
Speaker 3: to say some stupid shit about Kendrick right now, but
Speaker 3: I'll do yeah, but that's so toxic and if I can't,
Speaker 3: if I know, I'm not like on most days, I'll
Speaker 3: like type something out, I'm like, hah, that's clever, and
Speaker 3: then delete it and that's good enough. But even that,
Speaker 3: it's like, why you know, it's I don't think. Lastly, Lastly, Lastly,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if we were ever supposed to ment
Speaker 3: be meant to be this exposed to each other's thoughts
Speaker 3: and like, you know, like just in every passet. And
Speaker 3: then maybe that's why no one gets along now, because
Speaker 3: we know too fucking much about each other and everyone
Speaker 3: has this opinion that they want or you know, I
Speaker 3: feel like everyone wants to change the world and do
Speaker 3: it in their own way. And when nobody and when
Speaker 3: other people are don't see the same vision, there's something
Speaker 3: wrong with this person, and like from now we're all
Speaker 3: clashing when it's like if you guys just all shut
Speaker 3: the fuck up and be nice to each other, that'll
Speaker 3: work a lot better.
Speaker 1: But yeah, who, I love this dude.
Speaker 3: So all those reasons, like.
Speaker 1: Honestly, they're all valid. I'm not even like it's not
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 3: Then that's just for me. That's not like I look
Speaker 3: down on people on social media or.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah I skilled back a little bit for that reason,
Speaker 2: where it's just like I was sharing too much on
Speaker 2: social media and it's like, okay, people just had an
Speaker 2: opinion about everything. Now I'm like, okay, I don't necessarily
Speaker 2: want to share everything about my relationship, like I want
Speaker 2: to live and go on a bike ride and like yeah,
Speaker 2: like so many different things.
Speaker 1: It's like, you don't have to know everything in your socials.
Speaker 3: Actually that's like, so you have to tell that fine
Speaker 3: line to show personal parts to yourself and then also
Speaker 3: not sell every random product because but you have your
Speaker 3: own my own businesses and shit that you have to
Speaker 3: push out. And I understand that. But luckily, like I
Speaker 3: don't have that, and I see that as a blessing
Speaker 3: as opposed to like, oh, nobody's on my Like I
Speaker 3: genuinely it's fine with me that, like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: get that much because when I do try to get engagement,
Speaker 3: it's there, but it's for the wrong reason. It's because
Speaker 3: I'm being a jack.
Speaker 1: All because you're talking shit or something to someone.
Speaker 3: Because that's naturally how I am.
Speaker 2: You even talk shit to us, okay, so I know
Speaker 2: we'll get offended. He'll tell us straight up all kinds
Speaker 2: of things.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't know, it has more to
Speaker 3: do with self control, Like does everybody need to hear
Speaker 3: this clever little opinion I had about this stuff, like no,
Speaker 3: And most of the time the answer is no, yeah,
Speaker 3: And I don't really care what most people think about anything, and.
Speaker 1: You genuinely don't, like.
Speaker 3: I just you know, like I was really young when
Speaker 3: I wanted to save the world and it stressed me
Speaker 3: on The world still stresses me out to this day,
Speaker 3: but I'm not going to be the one to save it.
Speaker 3: And that's okay because I have this little world that
Speaker 3: I'm struggling to keep together, not struggling, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's challenge and it's like, when I get this downpack,
Speaker 3: then maybe I'll come out to save the world. But
Speaker 3: right now I don't need that, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before you go, brother, this is a game called
Speaker 2: We're Not Really Strangers?
Speaker 3: Have you heard of it? No?
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a family addition.
Speaker 2: And I want you to pick a card or actually
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick a card and I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 2: a question.
Speaker 1: Is that cool?
Speaker 3: Okay? Pick it from the three piles?
Speaker 2: From the three pile? Shit, okay, well, I don't know,
Speaker 2: because usually it goes from anyways.
Speaker 3: We'll see if you're magic trick. No, no, it's your magic trick.
Speaker 3: Pick a card, any card, but this one specifically.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, not this one because there's okay sexual, it's
Speaker 1: very sexual. Here we go.
Speaker 2: What's a vivid memory that you have of me growing
Speaker 2: up that makes you smile to this day?
Speaker 3: Shit? Mmm? All right, I got it, And you know
Speaker 3: I know you'll have the exact same memory hooked on phonics.
Speaker 3: Oh too. You took so much pride and uh and
Speaker 3: just like making sure me and Jackie were engaged, and
Speaker 3: you know Mom was always put so much into school,
Speaker 3: and none of us were good at it, yeah, including yourself,
Speaker 3: but you're like it like I'm gonna and you were
Speaker 3: the best teacher missus Cheeky's, missus Cheeky's and like, so yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember hooked on the floor. Make it the funnest game, dude. Like,
Speaker 3: and I remember being mad at you because you didn't
Speaker 3: read my flint Stones book to me the same way
Speaker 3: the mom did. Remember that because you didn't change your
Speaker 3: voice and ship that's just a bonus.
Speaker 2: No I do, No, I do, because it actually have
Speaker 2: to put like more like character into it. But yeah,
Speaker 2: hooked on phonics, you guys. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys ever heard of hooked on phonics. Hooked on phonics
Speaker 2: is like a way of like my mom wanted us
Speaker 2: to like learn and be better after school because we
Speaker 2: were all just really bad it.
Speaker 1: Like I was really bad at reading. I couldn't tell them, yeah, okay, good,
Speaker 1: thank you brother, And I was like, cheeks, call me
Speaker 1: missus cheeks, and I was strict.
Speaker 3: You sure have to wait, raise our hands and stuff.
Speaker 3: And me and Jackie loved it, dude, Johnny, I love it.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Johnny and Janeica ever got the
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, I honestly like, oh that makes
Speaker 1: me so happy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, no, you asked me one. Okay, right, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: this is a good one for I'll expand this to
Speaker 3: all the siblings. How likely are you to bring your
Speaker 3: significant other home to meet us? And what is something
Speaker 3: that you'd warn them about beforehand? So they obviously your
Speaker 3: significant other has met us? Yes, fuck no, but that
Speaker 3: doesn't count. Imagine you met We didn't. I didn't. We
Speaker 3: didn't all meet Amelia at the same time. Yeah, what
Speaker 3: would be your warning if he was coming to the house.
Speaker 2: Well, well, the thing is talking about that. Remember when
Speaker 2: we when he was at Becky's party and how you
Speaker 2: didn't like him?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, dude, I'm so glad I didn't fuck
Speaker 3: him up like I wanted to. He didn't. Guys, this
Speaker 3: is a real time. It looked tough to me. And
Speaker 3: then and then I like, I started riding bikes with him,
Speaker 3: and like all these wholes ripped and he boxes. He
Speaker 3: would have sucked me up, but I wanted to beat
Speaker 3: I wanted to beat them as because he dropped. He
Speaker 3: didn't do it on purpose, but he bumped into a
Speaker 3: table and the beer spilled on me, and I was
Speaker 3: already like the night that he was already talking to
Speaker 3: my sister and like they're.
Speaker 1: The same age, by the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so he was I'm glad. I'm glad, but
Speaker 3: I was probably being a douche dude. I think I was.
Speaker 2: You were you and Red. Now Red is his Mikey's
Speaker 2: best friend. He's like a brother to us, and he
Speaker 2: cuts Emidio's hair.
Speaker 1: But yes, he's like, Mike, you don't like that. And
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I was like, he's really nice
Speaker 1: to you. And I'm like, yeah, I was like, I
Speaker 1: like him.
Speaker 3: You just you needed I was more mad at you
Speaker 3: because you just like you're just like, oh, you made
Speaker 3: it obvious how much you liked them off for it.
Speaker 3: I sure did.
Speaker 1: I like that that guy on the.
Speaker 3: Record, he's awesome, dude, that he makes you like he
Speaker 3: I've never seen someone push you, push you out of
Speaker 3: your comfort zone in the healthiest way possible, where it's
Speaker 3: like not that you're lazy or anything, or you're not outdoorsy,
Speaker 3: but you're never going to plan a trip to go
Speaker 3: to fucking.
Speaker 1: Zion and.
Speaker 3: Across because a.
Speaker 2: Lot of my friends don't do that. So I finally
Speaker 2: found like my match because I've always been into hiking
Speaker 2: and all that stuff, but like he really.
Speaker 3: Pulled that, like or even just watching The Office, like
Speaker 3: like I never would have thought that'd be your type
Speaker 3: of comedy. Yeah, and then like you're like and like
Speaker 3: when you got into it, like oh so you watched
Speaker 3: this episode of this episode and just like he's just
Speaker 3: a freaking.
Speaker 1: Cool kill Tony too, all these things watch we love
Speaker 1: kill Tony.
Speaker 3: I'm going to You're going, I'm going on the forum.
Speaker 3: We should go shut up?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you gotta tell me he's going to
Speaker 1: love you.
Speaker 3: Isn't making you want to get back in the comedy,
Speaker 3: but it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You should that be.
Speaker 2: But anyways, they love each other now, yeah, okay, good,
Speaker 2: now they love each other.
Speaker 1: And Amilia was like, damn, why does the Foo want
Speaker 1: to be so freaking nice? I wanted to hate him
Speaker 1: so bad, but.
Speaker 2: Now they love each other, so anyways, that's not really strange.
Speaker 2: I wanted to just you know, I wish we had
Speaker 2: more time, But brother, I love no, I freaking love it,
Speaker 2: and I think that it's beautiful that people can feel
Speaker 2: and see your heart through the podcast because there's so
Speaker 2: much about you that people don't know.
Speaker 1: But I love that that it's mysterious. You're intriguing.
Speaker 3: I think the cheat code is a I mean, this
Speaker 3: just feels like a conversation. We're having it your hay.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know.
Speaker 3: Otherwise I don't think it would have came out. But
Speaker 3: I'm gland you for having me and I'm blessed to
Speaker 3: be here.
Speaker 1: I love you brother with all my heart. You guys,
Speaker 1: thank you for watching.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I hope that you guys enjoyed this conversation because
Speaker 2: for me it's super special because my brother's super busy now,
Speaker 2: he has his family, has girls, he has his business.
Speaker 2: And I'm just happy that I got this moment with you.
Speaker 3: And then you want to me to be part of this,
Speaker 3: and before we go, I just like, I just want
Speaker 3: to tell you just how much because another yet another
Speaker 3: reason why I am how I am is because I'm
Speaker 3: not comfortable growing in front of the world. I need
Speaker 3: to do it in my privacy. And you have never
Speaker 3: had that luxury you know you've had. You had to
Speaker 3: become the cheekies that you are in front of everyone's
Speaker 3: fucking eyes, and the fact that you've been able to
Speaker 3: do it and keep your head up high and grow,
Speaker 3: and the fact that I'm so confident that you're nowhere
Speaker 3: near what you're gonna be one day. You know, like
Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck that is, Like maybe
Speaker 3: you don't or maybe you have a better idea, but
Speaker 3: I'm confident you being there, and like that's you've done
Speaker 3: it in front of everyone's eyes, and it's like everyone
Speaker 3: can see like it's being because of you. You know,
Speaker 3: thank you, Like we asked Mom. We're here and people
Speaker 3: know about us because a mom, and people have love
Speaker 3: for us because of Mom. But you know, like you've
Speaker 3: also been able to become your own person. I feel
Speaker 3: like you know, so thankk you for being an inspiration.
Speaker 1: Oh brother, I love.
Speaker 2: You, Okay, I love you so much.
Speaker 1: You guys, thank you for watching and listening to this
Speaker 1: episode of Cheeky's and Cheer Cry Fool.
Speaker 3: I love you.
Speaker 1: I know you're getting all watery.
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