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Speaker 1: What up, guys.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to my conversation with my brother. If you

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Speaker 2: guys didn't listen to the first part, because it's now

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Speaker 2: the second part, listen to the first part of the

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Speaker 2: conversation with my brother Mike. Okay, big Mike, not Mikey

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Speaker 2: no more. All right, So here we go. Have you

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Speaker 2: forgiven yourself yet for the relationship with Luna's mom not

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Speaker 2: working because I know that weight heavy on you for

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Speaker 2: a long time.

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Speaker 3: I think we're at a good understanding me here now

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Speaker 3: where it's it's good. It was probably never going to

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Speaker 3: work out.

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Speaker 1: You guys were just meant to make this beautiful being.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, and we just we climbed together

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Speaker 3: really quick and then just find out over time, like

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Speaker 3: we were within a year of being together, we were

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Speaker 3: pregnant with Luna. And then, you know, she says that

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Speaker 3: the day Mom passed, I changed, you know, and that

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Speaker 3: I have no point of reference because I don't remember

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Speaker 3: that person anymore, you know. Yeah, And so I'm sorry

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Speaker 3: for that for you know, using that as justification for

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Speaker 3: any like stupid decisions I made, or or just letting

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Speaker 3: it go, or feeling like relief when she left me,

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Speaker 3: you know, because it wasn't like we were at odds

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Speaker 3: and it was a and you know, it's it's easier

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Speaker 3: to run away than to fucking re find out why

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Speaker 3: he loved somebody, you know, And so I mean I

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Speaker 3: stort of regret now, like, you know, not not waking

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Speaker 3: or not always being able to take her to school

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Speaker 3: or pick her up because she you know, for for

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Speaker 3: a while there we both lived in the valley, so

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Speaker 3: it wasn't too far and it was possible. But now

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Speaker 3: there's you know, there's more distance there, and it's just yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I mean we're in a good understanding. Luna understands

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Speaker 3: and if anything, like me and her mom have in

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Speaker 3: the past couple of years, we had a couple of

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Speaker 3: rough patches, but in the past year we've gotten really

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Speaker 3: good and we can like kind of talk again that

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Speaker 3: that I missed sad because me and Dre were legit

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Speaker 3: like like really good friends, you know, and even after

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Speaker 3: we'd broken up. Luna, it's weird for her sometimes, like

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Speaker 3: she's just like she gets bugged out and her mom

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Speaker 3: will be like, your dad's my friend, like this is

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Speaker 3: he's he's my really good friend, Like and she's just like,

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Speaker 3: can we just go already, Like there'll be here.

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Speaker 1: Talking and like's just he's uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's just like this is weird, and like

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Speaker 3: that makes me sad because she doesn't remember having a

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Speaker 3: whole family and I get to redo that again, you know.

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Speaker 3: And and it's not always easy, but it's like it's

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Speaker 3: definitely worth I'm a big believer in the nuclear family

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Speaker 3: and in the way that we're going in the world.

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Speaker 3: It's it's discouraged or it's a lie or yeah, because

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Speaker 3: it can't work out for everybody, but there's having a

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Speaker 3: mom and the dad being able to communicate.

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Speaker 1: And and it makes a big difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the baby having all the love possible spell

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Speaker 3: I lives with us, so she just has she has

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Speaker 3: she's with her grandma all the time, and she's getting

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Speaker 3: love from all these angles. And Luna's a really good

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Speaker 1: Not a hint of jealousy and like, goodness, that's the

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Speaker 1: perfect time.

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Speaker 3: That you know, and it's like, you know, it just

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Speaker 3: sucks that I missed out on that because of my decisions.

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Speaker 3: And I'll take full blame for that, you know, for

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Speaker 1: Just a lot. Brother.

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Speaker 2: That means that you've That's why I wanted to ask

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Speaker 2: you that, because you also have to remember you both

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Speaker 2: were so young, you know what I mean, Like, I

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Speaker 2: howld were you like twenty twenty one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a new mom for half of her life? Yeah? Crazy? Right,

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Speaker 3: She's forty two when she passed. I was twenty one,

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Speaker 3: and damn dude, you pa And if I'm lucky, I

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Speaker 3: Like I don't know how far I'm gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this, please Lord.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, it's just like at the end

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Speaker 3: But she came at the perfect time because I would,

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Speaker 1: That time, called Luna his life saver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I would. I would have lost my mind,

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Speaker 1: But it was how many months she was three months?

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Speaker 1: Three months when my mom passed.

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Speaker 2: I feel like telling you God, everything was like wait,

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Speaker 2: because I think it would have been a disaster if

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Speaker 3: I would have for sure went off. It changed us.

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Speaker 3: I still have you know, bad habits and things that

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Speaker 3: too much. And then also I was very guarded under Mom. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: kept us for experience. I just she kind of knew

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Speaker 3: my tendencies and my you know, to kind of go

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Speaker 3: there to keep me and keep me level headed, I

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Speaker 1: Have been completely different. Oh absolutely, I mean it changed us.

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Speaker 1: Losing Mom. It was learning how to live and all

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Speaker 1: over again.

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Speaker 3: It was tough.

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Speaker 2: So I mean the fact that you can be vulnerable

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Speaker 2: and talk about it and accept it, that's like huge

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Speaker 2: a lot of people, don't you know, and well mom

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Speaker 2: talk about Mom or talk about also the mistakes that

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Speaker 2: you also, like you could say, hey, it was it

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Speaker 2: and forgive yourself for it and say, give yourself some

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Speaker 2: I messed up, but I'm trying to fix it, you

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Speaker 3: And and you guys tell me I'm not nice enough

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Speaker 3: to myself, But I think in the moment, in the

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Speaker 3: allow myself grace or be like, you know you did that,

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Speaker 3: How are you going to react now? Yeah, So I

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Speaker 3: talking to myself positively works for me. You know, are

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Speaker 3: telling myself that I'm the greatest and I'm worthy of

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Speaker 3: this is and it's like.

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Speaker 1: You're a man, you're more logical.

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Speaker 3: Well, I have to prove it to myself, you know, like,

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Speaker 3: because as it is, I don't believe believe myself. So

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Speaker 3: if there's anyone out there in the world I need

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Speaker 3: me that has doubt, like you know, like I'm going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, but it does help to to

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Speaker 2: just say, you know, polit you got this ship, dude,

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Speaker 2: you got Like I try.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is when with especially because I'm new

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Speaker 3: to affirmation and so maybe just like general happy ones

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Speaker 3: don't necessarily work for me, but a great affirmation is

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Speaker 3: all right, what do you need to improve on today,

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Speaker 3: or what do you need to what do you need

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Speaker 3: to be avoiding or you know, like like I've been.

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Speaker 3: I've been. I got back in my fast and fucked

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Speaker 3: holities fucked me up, but I got back into it

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Speaker 3: and then like so, but when I when I am

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Speaker 3: that's an affirmation for me. It's like, no, you can

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Speaker 3: have self control and you're not You're not controlled by

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Speaker 3: every single little impulse that you have to go do

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Speaker 3: be the level headed one, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, and you are honestly like you. I think

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Speaker 2: we have a little bit of everything in our little

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Speaker 2: that's what I love about you because when you speak

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Speaker 2: like there's a lot of like right now, you're you're

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Speaker 2: leaving a lot of little I'm here and I love it,

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Speaker 2: like a lot of little bites. I'm like listening to you,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, this is fucking awesome, Like I have

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Speaker 2: such a glad, very natural, like yeah, it's we're having

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Speaker 2: our group chat. We talk about some real ship, Like

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Speaker 2: we go back and forth, we have discussions. We don't

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Speaker 2: always agree, but he knows that. I'm just like, that's

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Speaker 3: I'm also it's always me and you kind of yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, and but that's okay, dude. It's not like

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Speaker 3: we're completely different people. And I need your your unrelenting

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Speaker 3: you tell me I'm the greatest, some days, I'm just

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Speaker 3: like she's full of shit. She doesn't know. Other days

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Speaker 3: days when I'm the lowest, like sometimes like you might

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Speaker 3: I also wear my emotions on my.

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Speaker 2: Sleeves before we move on, because I wanted to do

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Speaker 2: a little something with you a little game. But a

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Speaker 2: lot of people always wonder like, why is myke like

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Speaker 2: more or Mike? You know, Mike, Why is Mike like

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Speaker 2: so like behind the scenes because you're not in the limelight,

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Speaker 2: which I think is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Do you do that to protect.

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Speaker 2: Yourself or do you do that more because you don't

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Speaker 2: want to deal with all the bullshit that it like

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Speaker 2: goes on with it? Or is it just you're just

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Speaker 2: happier that way, Like what is it?

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Speaker 3: Onions have layers, I'm just kidding, but there's multiple layers

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Speaker 3: to it. Okay, what happened when I was I think fifteen,

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Speaker 3: with you know, one of my friends leading other dickheads

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, that from then on because.

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Speaker 3: I think before that I was probably a lot more

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Speaker 3: now it's just like, I'm nice to everyone from a distance,

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Speaker 3: I don't like that. But that's it was a defense

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Speaker 3: mechanism for him from back then. Yeah, and then I

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Speaker 3: got into graffiti and then so it's like, and the

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Speaker 3: cool thing about that was that for a little bit. Anyways,

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Speaker 3: because now people who know know that, oh that's Journey

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Speaker 3: sent and he writes this and he's from here and

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Speaker 3: hangs out with these guys or whatever, because everything everything

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Speaker 3: little bit, it was like, this is cool because this

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Speaker 3: so a lot of it came to that, and that

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Speaker 3: eighteen on the cover in my face, you know, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, who, I love this dude.

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Speaker 3: So all those reasons, like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, before you go, brother, this is a game called

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Speaker 2: We're Not Really Strangers?

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Speaker 3: Have you heard of it? No?

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Speaker 2: And I want you to pick a card or actually

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Speaker 1: Is that cool?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Pick it from the three piles?

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Speaker 2: From the three pile? Shit, okay, well, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: Pick a card, any card, but this one specifically.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, not this one because there's okay sexual, it's

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Speaker 2: What's a vivid memory that you have of me growing

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Speaker 3: Shit? Mmm? All right, I got it, And you know

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Speaker 3: you know Mom was always put so much into school,

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Speaker 3: I remember hooked on the floor. Make it the funnest game, dude. Like,

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Speaker 2: No I do, No, I do, because it actually have

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Speaker 2: hooked on phonics, you guys. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: guys ever heard of hooked on phonics. Hooked on phonics

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Speaker 1: Like I was really bad at reading. I couldn't tell them, yeah, okay, good,

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Speaker 1: thank you brother, And I was like, cheeks, call me

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Speaker 3: You sure have to wait, raise our hands and stuff.

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Speaker 3: And me and Jackie loved it, dude, Johnny, I love it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, I honestly like, oh that makes

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Speaker 1: me so happy.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, no, you asked me one. Okay, right, okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: this is a good one for I'll expand this to

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Speaker 3: all the siblings. How likely are you to bring your

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Speaker 3: significant other home to meet us? And what is something

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Speaker 3: that you'd warn them about beforehand? So they obviously your

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Speaker 3: significant other has met us? Yes, fuck no, but that

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Speaker 3: doesn't count. Imagine you met We didn't. I didn't. We

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Speaker 3: didn't all meet Amelia at the same time. Yeah, what

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Speaker 3: would be your warning if he was coming to the house.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, the thing is talking about that. Remember when

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Speaker 2: we when he was at Becky's party and how you

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Speaker 2: didn't like him?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, dude, I'm so glad I didn't fuck

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Speaker 3: him up like I wanted to. He didn't. Guys, this

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Speaker 3: is a real time. It looked tough to me. And

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Speaker 3: then and then I like, I started riding bikes with him,

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Speaker 3: and like all these wholes ripped and he boxes. He

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Speaker 3: would have sucked me up, but I wanted to beat

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Speaker 3: I wanted to beat them as because he dropped. He

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Speaker 3: didn't do it on purpose, but he bumped into a

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Speaker 3: table and the beer spilled on me, and I was

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Speaker 3: already like the night that he was already talking to

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Speaker 3: my sister and like they're.

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Speaker 1: The same age, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so he was I'm glad. I'm glad, but

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Speaker 3: I was probably being a douche dude. I think I was.

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Speaker 2: You were you and Red. Now Red is his Mikey's

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Speaker 2: best friend. He's like a brother to us, and he

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Speaker 2: cuts Emidio's hair.

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Speaker 1: But yes, he's like, Mike, you don't like that. And

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Speaker 1: I was like, dude, I was like, he's really nice

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Speaker 1: to you. And I'm like, yeah, I was like, I

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Speaker 1: like him.

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Speaker 3: You just you needed I was more mad at you

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Speaker 3: because you just like you're just like, oh, you made

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Speaker 3: it obvious how much you liked them off for it.

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Speaker 3: I sure did.

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Speaker 1: I like that that guy on the.

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Speaker 3: Record, he's awesome, dude, that he makes you like he

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Speaker 3: I've never seen someone push you, push you out of

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Speaker 3: your comfort zone in the healthiest way possible, where it's

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Speaker 3: like not that you're lazy or anything, or you're not outdoorsy,

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Speaker 3: but you're never going to plan a trip to go

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Speaker 3: to fucking.

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Speaker 1: Zion and.

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Speaker 3: Across because a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of my friends don't do that. So I finally

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Speaker 2: found like my match because I've always been into hiking

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Speaker 2: and all that stuff, but like he really.

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Speaker 3: Pulled that, like or even just watching The Office, like

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Speaker 3: like I never would have thought that'd be your type

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Speaker 3: of comedy. Yeah, and then like you're like and like

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Speaker 3: when you got into it, like oh so you watched

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Speaker 3: this episode of this episode and just like he's just

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Speaker 3: a freaking.

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Speaker 1: Cool kill Tony too, all these things watch we love

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Speaker 1: kill Tony.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to You're going, I'm going on the forum.

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Speaker 3: We should go shut up?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you gotta tell me he's going to

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Speaker 1: love you.

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Speaker 3: Isn't making you want to get back in the comedy,

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Speaker 3: but it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: You should that be.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, they love each other now, yeah, okay, good,

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Speaker 2: now they love each other.

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Speaker 1: And Amilia was like, damn, why does the Foo want

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Speaker 1: to be so freaking nice? I wanted to hate him

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Speaker 1: so bad, but.

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Speaker 2: Now they love each other, so anyways, that's not really strange.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to just you know, I wish we had

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Speaker 2: more time, But brother, I love no, I freaking love it,

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Speaker 2: and I think that it's beautiful that people can feel

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Speaker 2: and see your heart through the podcast because there's so

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Speaker 2: much about you that people don't know.

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Speaker 1: But I love that that it's mysterious. You're intriguing.

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Speaker 3: I think the cheat code is a I mean, this

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Speaker 3: just feels like a conversation. We're having it your hay.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise I don't think it would have came out. But

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Speaker 3: I'm gland you for having me and I'm blessed to

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Speaker 3: be here.

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Speaker 1: I love you brother with all my heart. You guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you for watching.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I hope that you guys enjoyed this conversation because

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Speaker 2: for me it's super special because my brother's super busy now,

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Speaker 2: he has his family, has girls, he has his business.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just happy that I got this moment with you.

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Speaker 3: And then you want to me to be part of this,

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Speaker 3: and before we go, I just like, I just want

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Speaker 3: to tell you just how much because another yet another

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Speaker 3: reason why I am how I am is because I'm

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Speaker 3: not comfortable growing in front of the world. I need

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Speaker 3: to do it in my privacy. And you have never

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Speaker 3: had that luxury you know you've had. You had to

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Speaker 3: become the cheekies that you are in front of everyone's

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Speaker 3: fucking eyes, and the fact that you've been able to

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Speaker 3: do it and keep your head up high and grow,

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Speaker 3: and the fact that I'm so confident that you're nowhere

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Speaker 3: near what you're gonna be one day. You know, like

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck that is, Like maybe

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Speaker 3: you don't or maybe you have a better idea, but

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Speaker 3: I'm confident you being there, and like that's you've done

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Speaker 3: it in front of everyone's eyes, and it's like everyone

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Speaker 3: can see like it's being because of you. You know,

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Speaker 3: thank you, Like we asked Mom. We're here and people

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Speaker 3: know about us because a mom, and people have love

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Speaker 3: for us because of Mom. But you know, like you've

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Speaker 3: also been able to become your own person. I feel

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Speaker 3: like you know, so thankk you for being an inspiration.

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Speaker 1: Oh brother, I love.

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Speaker 2: You, Okay, I love you so much.

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Speaker 1: You guys, thank you for watching and listening to this

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Speaker 1: episode of Cheeky's and Cheer Cry Fool.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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