1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Good morning, Sweetirl, and welcome to the Now Dunks Podcast, 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Tuesday, November twenty fifth, twenty 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: twenty five. I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: and alongside me, as always Test. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: Mellows podcast listeners, this is for you. 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy, Trey 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Kirby al Heyo and over Yonder making the magic happen. 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Super producer jd. Hello, there is here. We are why 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: you're shooting. 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: Your fingers today. Ah, it's break week here in Atlanta. 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: Kids are off school. Okay, morning routines thrown. 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 4: I feel like that tweet. 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: Where it's like I'm just gonna look at some box 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: scores and argue with people who watch the game because 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: I woke up about an hour later. 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: Than usual today. 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: So I was watching last night with my dad, you know, 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: getting some ridicul takes from this old man, thinking yeah, 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: I'll catch up on the details in the morning, and 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: then Laura rolls over. 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: It's a little uh, that's very very dark out here 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: in Atlanta today too. 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 4: Swarm woke up, starts pouring, So let's have a good show, all. 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Right, Right, we were gonna have a good show. Hello 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: to everybody on YouTube, hit the light button, subscribe, make 26 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: sure you share the show, podcast listeners, five star ratings 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: and reviews. On today's show, it's the return of the 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: slop scale. We're going to weigh in on some few 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: trade rumors, so rumblings at least, So drop your piggies 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: in the chat right now because we'll slop it up later. 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: We'll get to the games from last night. But first 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: we had Weggie number fifteen, but it was a blink 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: and you'll miss it, Weggie from Duncan Robinson in Indiana. 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, it sticks for a second, and then we 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: think Jaalen Duran sort of dislodges it by hitting the mesh, 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: maybe the backboard there. Otherwise it maybe would have stuck 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: a little longer. You never know, who kiss a shit. 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: We're counting it. 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: We came up short last year, so we're counting everything. 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I asked the guys in slack last night 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: and only counting this one. It was really quick tasted. 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Sure Trey Kirby came in a little bit later. Yeah, 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: I count it, So there you go. 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: It's a pretty unique one because Duncan Robinson throws it 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: from the left side of the rim, and it lodges 46 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 2: in the right side of the rim. So I went 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: back and watched all of our forty eight wedgies from 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: last season because we've got YouTube video on it. It's 49 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: great YouTube channel, and there was one like that last year. 50 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: They're very unique to the Yeah. Yeah, I don't even 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: know if Jayalen Dura needed to touch the mesh at all. 52 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: It was coming down. Yeah it was a slipper. Yeah, 53 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: it probably was, but it does matter it wedge doesn't 54 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: matter wed wedge. 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: So what do you think I should rate this on 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: the wedgie scale? When I do that every weekend, I 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: had it right now going quite low. Yeah, because it's 58 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: not there long. I was thinking half a star, maybe 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: one star, one raph. Yeah, honestly, it was there. 60 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't there long. The uniqueness of one side to 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: the other. I think that's warrant did to me. Kill 62 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: me on that a little. We've recovered these wedgies for 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: over a decade. How many have you seen those? Not many? 64 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: Not many rare tasts. You just gained it half a 65 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: ralse yea yeah, yeah, you'll have to wait till the weekend. 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: When I dropped that though on substack. 67 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: I'm half a star myself. 68 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: Now, man, well you're a full star. You're a superstar baby. Okay, 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: let's get into some of last night's games. Speaking of superstars, 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: how about those Toronto Raptors. Give me some Raptor news. 71 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: A Brandon Ingram scores a season high thirty seven. He 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: was cooking at times in this game as the Raptors 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: beat the shorthanded Cavaliers. A couple guys out again for Cleveland, 74 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: but the Raps took care of business one ten ninety nine. 75 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: They're eighth straight victory tasks and again b I the 76 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: big story, had a big third quarter, but thirty seven 77 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: season high. 78 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: For him, most shots he shot all season long, thirty 79 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: shots in this game. His previous high was twenty one. 80 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: A lot of that happens because other coaches they double them. 81 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: They forced him to get it out of his hands. 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 2: Kenny Atkinson was not doing that. It's going one on one. 83 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: I criticized that from other coaches. I said, hell, we 84 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: now he can get other guys going, and you see 85 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: the tront Raptors. They are getting everybody going and everybody 86 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: pays off. Well, I ate my words yesterday because Ingram 87 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: was just on fire. A. He was just scorch and 88 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: one on one every time he ballfake you. That one 89 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: that he gave to Nikwon Tomlin, who went flying by 90 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: him as he gave him that ball fake was great. Listen. 91 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: I love how Ingram's playing period. He's number one. He's 92 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: playing a lot of games. He's matched his games played 93 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: from last season at eighteen. WHOA I was brought up 94 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 2: to him in the postgame interview and he's also said 95 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: Darko is our leader. You gotta like that. The coach 96 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: is your leader. I guess you like that or not, depending, buddy. 97 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: Everybody is playing hard. Ingram, Barnes, Bared and Quickly have 98 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: all played eighteen games. They close out quarters most importantly, 99 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: I think is the most important thing. They always close 100 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 2: them out well. They always finish it well and finish 101 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,119 Speaker 2: off game as well, like they did in the fourth quarter. 102 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: Ingram is your leading scorer by far. But everybody's sort 103 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: of sort of a glue guy as we can see, 104 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: like Scottie Barnes ain't going to be a driver and 105 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: a finisher at the rim for his career. That's just 106 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: not who he is. He's not a takeover guy. Like that. 107 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: But when you got a score like this, and you 108 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: got a cutter like RJ. Barrett who was not in 109 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: this game with his knee injury, and you got quickly 110 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: doing his thing, all guys taking part, all guys playing minutes. 111 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: I admired it all, just sitting back and watching this 112 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: thing as a team. And then Barnes, excuse me, Ingram 113 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: again his best game of the season, no doubt. Were 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: you proud that. 115 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: This game was on Peacock here in America last day 116 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: sort of the national TV audience to see this Raptors team. 117 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: Sort of at the same time, you know, the bordering 118 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: city of Mississauga to Toronto, and hearing Mark Followell, who's 119 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: calling the game on Peacock, he saw Emmanuel quickly line 120 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: one up from thirty eight feet man thirty six feet. 121 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: It was a bomb of a shot, and Mark Followell 122 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: said from mississaugua, he didn't pronounce it correctly. That's okay, Mark, 123 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: you brought it. They did bring it on Peakyck him 124 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: and Derek Fisher beside him. 125 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Derek Fisher, Yeah, wasn't the biggest fan of Derek Fisher. 126 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: From being completely honest for sher, he. 127 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: Didn't have a lot of flair. He's a solid he 128 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: is pretty boring. Is a solid just a solid guy, 129 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: like he was a solid player. That's who he is. True. 130 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: True, he broadcast like he plays. I agree with that. 131 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: But it was cool that they at least put this 132 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: performance together again with a lot of more eyeballs I 133 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: guess on Toronto Raptors. Yeah, yeah, than normal. 134 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe Ingram took thirty shots. It didn't feel 135 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: like it at all to me, like thirty shots in 136 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: the flow of the offense. I don't know, but he 137 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: was playing single coverage, so go and score, which is 138 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: exactly what the Raptors needed. Ingram at the very least, 139 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: he's an All Star talent. Maybe he'll be an All 140 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: Star this year. One hundred percent American as far as 141 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: I can tell. 142 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 4: We shall see. 143 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: He looks like an All Stars so far. But he's 144 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: established a hierarchy in Toronto. He's the number one guy. 145 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: He's the number one scorer when it comes down to 146 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: it in a late shot clock situation, he's the guy 147 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: to go and get a basket, so that slots everybody 148 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: else down a little bit lower in the pecking order, 149 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: which is what the Raptors needed. It allows Scotty Barnes 150 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: to be a transition player and to attack when he 151 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: has an advantage. It allows quickly to play against a 152 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: lesser defender right and when Pearl's out there, he can 153 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: go score. It just ups their talent level and gives 154 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: them somebody who can get a basket. 155 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: I thought that side step three towards the end of 156 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: the third quarter that was a beauty. 157 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: Couldn't believe he get his feet behind the line on 158 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: that one from the corner. So I was critical of 159 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: the Ingram acquisition, especially when he didn't play at all 160 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: last year. He feels like they got him in free 161 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: agency over the summer, but really they just extended him 162 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: after doing the trade last year. But he's been exactly 163 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,119 Speaker 3: what the Raptors needed. It's weird, though that they've already 164 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: finished their season series with the Cavs. 165 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: How's that pot. 166 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: For the Raps? I was missing all these guys. Unfortunately, 167 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: we haven't seen like two fully squad teams go against 168 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: each other here, and we won't until I guess, potentially 169 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs, because they're done. That's not even December and 170 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: they're done their season series. 171 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, from that cav side. Evan Mobley just wasn't awesome 172 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: in this game. I don't know where the bounce is 173 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: in his dribble package. He just doesn't seem super confident. 174 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: Three point shot was available that one where Barnes was 175 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: on him. It was a Barnes had to go cover 176 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: him and there was time to let it go. He 177 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: still put it on the floor and that's when Barnes 178 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: doing his thing, incredible steal because he's so good at that. 179 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: Evan Mobley just hasn't lived up to that this season. 180 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: He just hasn't been peak Kevin Mobley. And it's odd, 181 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: I think because Darius Carland hasn't played so much of 182 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: the game, so many of the games, you can just 183 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: rely on Evan mobleymore. Right. So, that step that we've 184 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: all wondered, we've all demanded it said that that was 185 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: where they were going to take their next step in 186 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: the postseason has not happened. You need to see Evan 187 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: Mobley growing. It has not grown. 188 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: A few other notes, going back to Scottie Barnes, can't 189 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: take my eyes off him when he's on the defensive 190 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: end of the floor. Right now, he is everywhere on 191 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: the defensive end, he's digging in on drives, he's sliding back, 192 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: he's protecting the rim. You guys already talked about how 193 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: disruptive he is with those long arms, and then that 194 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: gets them in transition. He's gonna be. He's on his 195 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: way to being I think at least on one of 196 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: the all defensive teams, probably first team All Defense right now, 197 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: right you were even thrown out the idea where is 198 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: he in the defensive player of the year conversation with 199 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: no Webinama right now being short on games, and there's 200 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: some other names on that list, but I think he's 201 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: on the short list for sure. 202 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: He was great. 203 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: Jamal shed this guy's fantastic. Like once again, multiple times 204 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: he like just blew by Cavaliers players after they had 205 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: breakdowns defensively sort of scrambling. He's just like, all right, 206 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: let's take it right to the front of the rim. 207 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: And I love how quickly he gets off the ball 208 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: as a point guard, like he just does not hold it. 209 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: It's just it's like not even leading immediately to an 210 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: assist for him, It's just like the play that leads 211 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: to them the assists, like it's the hockey assist. I 212 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: guess he's so good at just moving it quickly. He's 213 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: been a revelation at what the forty fifth pick or 214 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: something like that second round pick, I think he went, 215 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: and he's given them quality minutes. Mamu was great early 216 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: on in this game. Hit a couple of threes, had 217 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: a couple of blocks, and I got to get it 218 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: up to Darko. He started Jacobe Walter in place of 219 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: injured RJ. 220 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: Barrett. 221 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: He was one of the main reasons, along with Shed 222 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: as the game went on in containing Donovan Mitchell now 223 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: again Cleveland missing guy. So you can put a lot 224 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: of focus on Donovan Mitchell bad game though, seventeen points, 225 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: and it was Walter. It was Shed a lot of times, 226 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: and then the rest of the Health defense in making 227 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: it a rough night for him. Both teams run back 228 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 1: to back, so it's not like one team had that 229 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: excuse more than the other. They were just great and 230 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: Darkoman he is just pushing all the right buttons. He's 231 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: got this team organized. He said he's the leader. He 232 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: comes into the locker room going nuts. I was concerned 233 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: early on. I didn't know what their defensive game plan was. 234 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: They are those first five games and he's turned it 235 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: around and he's obviously not going anywhere because he's been 236 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: an elite coach here with this winning streak. 237 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 4: Randerninger basically said, he's the reason why I'm good right now. Yeah, 238 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 4: and he's had an effect on Ingram. 239 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: Ingram is a guy playing with the Pelicans who would 240 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: get the ball, dribble, dribble, dribble, finally get into a shot. 241 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 3: He's playing a lot quicker now. And like you're saying, 242 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: the Raptors are a pretty deep team. Their bench is 243 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: a lot of the reason I think that they win 244 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: these games because they can play five guys who actually. 245 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: Know what they're doing. 246 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 3: Shed picks up the tempo, moves the ball, Mamu stretches 247 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: the floor so they're playing five out. 248 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 4: Gives guys a lot of space to score. 249 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: Inside, give them a combination sixth man of the year, 250 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: maybe sixth and seventh man of the year because they 251 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: come in together and they look great. 252 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the depth is of ridiculous. It was Scottie Barnes 253 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: in that pre season interview was with Kayla Gray when 254 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 2: he was talking about the musicals that he likes. He 255 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 2: loves Hamilton. He's seen it like five times, but he 256 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: talked about how deep they are, that they're literally like 257 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen, fifteen deep. It is one hundred percent true 258 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: right now. They are super deep. He's mentioned Jacoby Walter 259 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: starting he was guarding was it the Auzzie Tyre's Proctor, 260 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: like eighty feet from the bucket and he got pushed 261 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 2: by Procter and he drew a foul. That kind of 262 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: stuff you need six minutes left Emmanuel quickly with that 263 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: awesome steal. Those little plays are what win you games. 264 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And this was a close game, right, And the 265 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: Raptors have been turning these super close contests into ten 266 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: or eleven point victories in the final minutes because they 267 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: sort of ramp it up there. And maybe that's the 268 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: depth of the squad. There's a little more fresh legs 269 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 1: than some of these guys because they can rotate so 270 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: many guys in you're right, yeah, And it's all those 271 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: little things that out up to these wins. 272 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the pressure that this has taken off of 273 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: Scottie Barnes, he went from All Star to last year 274 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 2: to everybody expecting what is he going to take that 275 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: next step? And he's just never He's never going to 276 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: be that number one offensive guy. I don't think where 277 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: you can just drive in. But now he doesn't have 278 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: the pressure. He can just operate in the fast break 279 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: and do what he does really really well post moves. 280 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: He does that really really well. And so he's just 281 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: using that advantage. And yeah, the hierarchy works scoring wise, 282 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: brandon Ingram just buying into the passes, not having to 283 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: shoot every single game or every single possession. Again, he's 284 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: not to go from twenty one to thirty in terms 285 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: of his highest field goal attempts. Just shows he's want 286 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: to be a team guy. He's playing that role extremely 287 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: well and it trickles down to everybody. 288 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: Let's keep it moving. Let's go to the Miami Heat. 289 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: I got Tyler hero back score twenty four in his 290 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: season debut. They took care of business. It was pretty 291 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: close there over the Dallas Mavericks one six, one two. 292 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: I thought there was some sloppy play on both ends 293 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: down the stretch, but Hero did hit a big shot. 294 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: TK Let's start with you on Hero, how we looked 295 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: to you and them getting the win. 296 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: Hero did hit the biggest shot of the night. 297 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: After a kind of disaster class performance from PJ Washington 298 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: in the last minute. 299 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: Of the Chevy tracks was broken down side of the road. 300 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a. 301 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: Not c Well call them too for different reasons. 302 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: But I'm like, I'm buying it. I'm buying. 303 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: In Canada. 304 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, they're gonna have to come a long way 305 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: down to Miami. Call my Canadian auto insurance come off fix, Mike. 306 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: What the hell do they call it here? 307 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: Then? 308 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 4: What do we call it? 309 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: Triple A? Triple A? 310 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, that's the American Association for Retired. 311 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, the old people, the old people. 312 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: My guess is that whatever Triple A stands for, you 313 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: swap out the first day and it turns into CIA, 314 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: that's probably it. 315 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 316 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna look it up. I'd rather just have 317 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 4: a feeling that that's what it is. 318 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: And I was feeling like Tyler Hero here we go 319 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: didn't distract from what the Miami Heat had been doing. 320 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: He was playing fast, which I think is kind of 321 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: the key for the Heat. They get the ball moving, 322 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: they get the ball up the court, they score as 323 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: fast as they possibly can. 324 00:14:59,160 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: Hero was doing that. 325 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: Went twelve of eighteen from the field. Felt like all 326 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 3: twelve of his shots were floaters. 327 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. 328 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: They weren't all floaters, but it felt like they were. 329 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: He's also just another good scorer with the ball in 330 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: his hand. Like we talked about yesterday, the Heat are 331 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: just weaponizing one on ones, keep the ball moving. Let 332 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: whoever has an advantage attack, and Hero was able to 333 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: do that for Miami last night. I did think the 334 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: ball stuck in his hand a little bit. Sometimes he's 335 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: a guy who likes to get into his bag and 336 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: do some cool crossovers and get to a pull up jumper. 337 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: That happened a little bit with Hero, but not so 338 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: much that it distracted from the way the Heat want 339 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: to be playing and how they have been playing so 340 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: far this season. So I thought a great performance from 341 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: him for his first game back. He looked like he 342 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: was totally in the flow with Miami and then Khalil Ware. 343 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: This guy has been straight up hooping in the last 344 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: three games for Miami. Twenty eight points, eighteen boards, three 345 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: monster blocks last night. Also hit three threes. Prior to 346 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: that against Philadelphia twenty points, sixteen boards. I think he 347 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: had eight offensive in that game. He was dominant there 348 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: and then when they destroyed the Bulls twenty points fourteen 349 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: rebounds coming around. They need him to be a force 350 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: at the rim. Throwing him lobbs is the majority of 351 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: the way he's going to score and then hitting wide 352 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: open threes. But having a guy who could score inside, 353 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: even if it's just finishing plays, is big time for Miami. 354 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, super physical, talking smack. We didn't know that that 355 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: was coming. I don't think I didn't know what was coming. 356 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: You saw a slow start here in sophomore season number 357 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: two for him, and he did start so but now 358 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: he is there clue wars Reas. 359 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: Averaging twenty and sixteen over his last three games. Like 360 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: Trey said, there through the box score. 361 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you get back your best offensive player. 362 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: As much as I respect Norman Powell, who wasn't playing 363 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: in this game, the best offensive player in a one 364 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: on one situation is Tyler Hero and he was a baller. 365 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: Even though he had a slow start in this game. 366 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: His first stint was bad. You could see he was rusty, 367 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: you can see that, and he missed his first two shots. 368 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: He didn't have zero points in that first eight minute stint. 369 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: He goes to the bench, comes back out and he 370 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: was awesome the rest of the way. The rest of 371 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: the way. He was twelve of sixteen. He's twelve of 372 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: sixteen overall on two point shots because he didn't hit 373 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: a three, and the floater was the thing that was 374 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: getting in with those two point shots. It was floater time. 375 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he looks like he's got the best floater 376 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: on that team. 377 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: Oh that one at the end there, like the one 378 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: that sort of one in the game. That was a 379 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: real true floater too, that was skied. Nice touch on that. 380 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 2: And that was the the PJ. Washington pass that got 381 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: stolen by day J. Washington, thinking on that play, just 382 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: gave it to Bam. 383 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: He like threw it to him. Bam jumped up and 384 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: got it and then did a good job to like 385 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: keep it in bounds because I think his momentum was 386 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: taking him out. Yeah, I guess PJ. Washington saw. I 387 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: think it was emhard in the corner and just forgot 388 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: that there was another Mavericks player and Bam between him 389 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: and the corner. 390 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: He was in your robot mode. He was like, here's 391 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 3: the play, I must pass it to the corner. Cooper 392 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 3: flag was wide open up top. Yeah, so brutal play 393 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 3: by PJ. 394 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: Washington. 395 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: He also missed the three from the corner twenty eight 396 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: seconds left, pretty much a wide open look. I would 397 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: have actually liked to see Clay Thompson take the shot. 398 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 3: He catches it on the wing and hesitates, gets it 399 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: p J. Wide open shot for PJ brick job. But 400 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 3: Clay hesitated. You know, he had just missed a big 401 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 3: shot against the Grizzlies. Maybe that's factoring into his head. 402 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: Hasn't had a great season, but he told us watch 403 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 3: the big players are coming. 404 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: Take the shot. 405 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: Also, I would have liked to see Cooper flag take 406 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: the shot. He gets the ball at the top of 407 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: the key. 408 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 4: When PJ. 409 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 3: Washington missed, he had another three from the top of 410 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: the key, this one six seconds left. 411 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: Cooper had a chance to attack. Nobody's gonna be upset 412 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 4: if you missed the shot. Go do it. 413 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: He's a guy that likes to make the right play. 414 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: It's been playing really well for the past couple of 415 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: weeks here. I would like to see him go a 416 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: little hero ball mode. 417 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: What did did you watch that last night? 418 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 3: Yep? 419 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: What'd your dad think of Cooper Flagg? 420 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: And he said take the shot? 421 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like yeah, but he plays the right way. 422 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: He does play the right way. I will say, sometimes 423 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: you gotta play the wrong way. Yeah, see PJ. 424 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 3: Washington was trying to play the right way didn't work. 425 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: Flag trying to play the right way didn't work. Sometimes 426 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: you gotta take it upon yourself. Be a man out there, 427 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: man out there. 428 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: He's still a boy, that's the thing. 429 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 4: He's still a boy. 430 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: Sweaty, sweaty boy. Well, yeah, take the undershirt off man. 431 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: And well, I just want to say Tyler Hero was 432 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: playing d in this game. He's the guy who usually 433 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: gets played off on the floor defensively, he was out 434 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: there working. He was even top blocking at times. He 435 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: was doing some stuff out there. So I will say 436 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: that about him. They win a game because of him. 437 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: They shot three from three point lane, they shot nineteen percent. 438 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: They couldn't hit a three, so Tyler Hero comes back 439 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: and gets it all done. 440 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: I did like that he wasn't like settling for threes 441 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: in this game, because Tyler Hero can get them up 442 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: in a hurry, and he can take a lot of threes, 443 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: and he can make a lot of threes too. But yeah, 444 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: I think the box score only had like two attempts. 445 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: He didn't hit one like nobody could. Yeah, but like 446 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: he was attacking getting inside and you guys said the 447 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: floater time after. 448 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: Time, he's buying. It seems like he's buying into whatever 449 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: exposure wants. I think he's going to adapt, and it 450 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: seems like he bought it. I will say Cooper flight. Also, 451 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: he sticks with the game. You can see him play 452 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: really well in fourth quarters even if he doesn't have 453 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: it going. So that's a great sign for a rook Yeah, 454 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: it's true. He just keeps it going and hits shots. 455 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: It was a crazy fourth, crazy second half. I think 456 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: for Jason Kidd who said, here comes Ryan Emhart. Ryan 457 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: Emhart didn't play in the first half. He comes out 458 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: and takes all of Dangel Russell's minutes in the second half, 459 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: even Brandon Williams minutes. They got some wild stuff happening 460 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: in Dallas. We'll get to trade talk a little bit later, 461 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: but what a strange team happening there in Dallas yesterday. 462 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday's show. I was wondering, you know, 463 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: Norman Powell, how great he's played. Looks like he could 464 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: be making his first All Star game. Didn't play last night, 465 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: but I was wondering where he ranks or where would 466 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: he rank among the oldest first time All Stars in 467 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: NBA history. I looked it up. It's a fun list. 468 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, Hawks guard Kyle Korver was named by 469 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 1: NBA Commissioner Adam Silver to replace injured Eastern Conference All 470 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Star reserve Dwayne Wade. Korver was thirty three years and 471 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: eleven months sold, so Korver at the time became the 472 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: fourth oldest first time All Star in NBA history, behind 473 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: Nicks at Sweetwater Clifton, he was thirty four years old 474 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty seven. 475 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: We're going to win back then. 476 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: Two fun names Timberwolves Sam Cassell thirty four years old 477 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: and two months in two thousand and four, and I 478 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: did not remember. This is the team he made it 479 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: with Anthony Mason with the Miami Heat. I thought for 480 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: sure Mason made an All Star team with the Knicks 481 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: or the Hornets, but no, it was his first year 482 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: with Miami, thirty four years two months in two thousand 483 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: and one. The only other one older then would be 484 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: Norman Powell, who's like thirty two and a half. King 485 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: center Vladi Divac, he had just turned thirty three before 486 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: his first All Star game in February two thousand and one. 487 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: So he had a couple old guys that year making 488 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: their first All Star Game. So Norm will be the 489 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: sixth oldest if he makes it. Guys, because Mark Eaton 490 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: and Antonio Davis were thirty two as well, but Norm's 491 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: a bit older, or will be a bit older if 492 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: he made Eaton made an All Star Our team. Yeah, yeah, ridiculous. 493 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 4: I would love to see the highlights Mark Eaton going 494 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: through his legs. 495 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: Davis doing much else. 496 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: Those screens that Joe Kim Noah the All Star Game 497 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: like set and screens and playing defense. 498 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 4: Why these guys now, It's like, I don't worry about 499 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 4: Marking in the All Star Game throwing out. 500 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: I wonder how many blocks they had in the Stars 501 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: set the record, all right, it's keep going. Pistons win 502 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: their thirteenth straight. They tie their franchise record. They beat 503 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: the Pacers one twenty two UH one seventeen. Detroit matched 504 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: the winning streak from nineteen ninety and two thousand and 505 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: four NBA Championship teams, and they improved to fifteen and two. 506 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: Pretty stunning turnaround for a franchise that started the twenty 507 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: three to twenty four season, which is two seasons ago, 508 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: three and thirty six, and they finished with fourteen seasons 509 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: that year. And to put it another way, shout out 510 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: to Zilla for this. The Pistons could lose their next 511 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: sixty five games straight and finished with a better record 512 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: than they did two years ago. 513 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: Wow, great man, cool, that's crazy, man. 514 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: They're fifteen and two. They won fourteen total games two 515 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: years ago. But any thoughts on the game are all 516 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: the Pistols. 517 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: Well you mentioned, yeah, the last time they had a 518 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: great long winning streak speaks to these old jerseys that 519 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: they were wearing. Last night. They had the teal going 520 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: on there and I think against the old school Pacers 521 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: jersey on that old school court, they look great. 522 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: Great matchups, didn't It looked unusual, but I thought it 523 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 4: looked cool. 524 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: It took you a second realized the Pacers were playing 525 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: the Pistons. 526 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, because the pace, because the Pistons have that, 527 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: they call it charcoal. It ain't black. They're Jersey with 528 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: the course. Yeah, of course, midnight black. I guess Motown charcoal. 529 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's called they always do that. I like them, 530 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: I do that, but I like the Pacers too. At 531 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: the course. Yeah, I think they all look great. Listen, 532 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: the pacers are starting to click. I know it's it's 533 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: all in stock here. I mean, that was a good game. 534 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: I know they're starting to click. 535 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 4: They did win, they did win this month. 536 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: But they're starting now play. That was a good loss. 537 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: There's Jerris Walker five three splash TG McConnell finally looking 538 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: like himself, saying Colin Gillespie is the new me. Shut up, 539 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm playing basketball here, basketball Pascal looking like himself. Anyways, 540 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: it's all about the business right now. They look awesome. Obviously, 541 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: Kay doing his thing. Sorr Thompson I thought looked good 542 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: in so many little flashes. 543 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: Thompson twins looking good last night. 544 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they got it done. Not much more to 545 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: talk about. 546 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: I would say Kid had twenty four points, eleven boards, 547 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: six assists, and he hit that I guess what do 548 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: you call it, like a little jump hook there in 549 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: the final minute. Yeah, with the shot clock winding down, 550 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: and that held off Indiana's late rally. Because you're right, 551 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: it was close, but that was was a lie. Big Bucket. 552 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: Durant did his thing. That guy's an all star. Seventeen 553 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: and twelve for him, carosel vert with nineteen points last 554 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: night for Detroit and J and Ivy limited minutes once again, 555 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: but contributed once again. 556 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: TK. 557 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 558 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: I thought the Cad hook was pretty cool because the 559 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 3: Pistons were maybe gonna blow this one. You know, they 560 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 3: took their foot off the gas carbon, but they needed 561 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: a bucket in Cad. Just as like, I'm bigger than 562 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 3: everybody out there, there's not really a matchup for Caid 563 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 3: on the PACER's side of things when it came down 564 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 3: to it. So he got down into the post shot 565 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: a hook shot. I remember in his like pre draft 566 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 3: stuff that he's like, I learned how to shoot the 567 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 3: hook shot in eighth grade. I used to be a 568 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: post player. You never hear that for a guy who's 569 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: a ballhand. It's always post player. Used to be the point. 570 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: Complete flip but four baskets in the restricted area for 571 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: kid on this one also drew ten free throw attempts, 572 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: went eight to ten at the line. 573 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: You love to see it. 574 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: You love to see him using his physicality and his 575 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: size as a gigantic guard out there. So I thought 576 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: that was pretty smooth from him. And I also loved 577 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 3: the last play that the pistons ran when they're just 578 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: trying to run out the clock. First of all, they 579 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 3: had Karris Lavert hiding by their bench. 580 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jarris Walker was like, I don't know who to guard? 581 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 4: Where is this guy? 582 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 3: And then they're like, wait, you got to stuff out 583 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: from the bench a little bit. So Caris Livert steps 584 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 3: out from the bench, Jariss Walker gets there. They blow 585 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 3: the whistle and bounce the ball and Lavert just sprints 586 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: right past them, Like, uh oh, we put a slow 587 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: guy out of fast guy. 588 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: What are you supposed to do? Carpun again, smart stuff. 589 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: It's like literally just working with the matchups of Okay, 590 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 3: so you have a defender, a big guy defender, a 591 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: Jaris Walker who can move like. 592 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 4: He's not a slow guy, but he's not guard fast. 593 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 4: So Lavert just literally ran past him. 594 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: Yah, I was smart. I want to get your opinion 595 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: on a Michael Red tweet that he shared the other day. No, 596 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: I saw it going around again. I think he shared 597 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: it almost a week ago, but he said on Twitter 598 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: on X Michael read the great Michael Red. Uh, Kate 599 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: Cunningham reminds me a lot of Brandon Roy. I was like, hm, 600 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, let me chew on that. Let me think 601 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: about that. Any opinions on similarities between the two. Britain 602 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: Roy at his peak is obviously what Michael Redd is 603 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: talking about in the Blazer's days, didn't have a long career, 604 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 1: unfortunately because of injuries. But you know, seasons one through 605 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: five compared to where Kate is right now, one through 606 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: four and a bit and in his fifth season, you 607 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: see them. 608 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: Big body, never go too fast, always play at their 609 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: own speed, get to their spots. Kid's got more of 610 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: a dribble game than Brandon Roy. I would say Brandon 611 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: Road was awesome, but I think Kid's got a little 612 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: bit more, a little bit more, shake, a little bit more. 613 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: I agree. I think Kate is also beat. Brandon Road 614 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: was awesome, he was, and I think Kate is like 615 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: well on his way to being better, and maybe he's 616 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: already there. I see some similarity man, Michael Red. When 617 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: he tweets I read, I like, at least it got 618 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: people talking it through, which I thought was fun. 619 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 4: I don't see it. But Michael Red is an NBA 620 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 4: all start, I'm not Do. 621 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: You see any other comparisons. Let's say, to Kate, I'm 622 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: putting on the spot here. 623 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: He's a big guard and that's that's the difference to 624 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 3: me between him and Mike uh and Brandon roy Like 625 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: Brandon roy I think of as a perimeter scorer, shooting jumper. 626 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: He was more of a shooting guard a little yeah, 627 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: And I think if Kate is a guy who likes 628 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: to get into and work from there, like I don't 629 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: think it's a coincidence that in the past two seasons, 630 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: as he's taken a leap forward, he's gotten a lot 631 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: better at finishing. Everybody compares him to Luca. I think 632 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: he's more along the lines of like a Luca or 633 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 3: a James Harden, guys who are big and strong and 634 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: want to do their damage inside and then also can 635 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: play on the perimeter as well. 636 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if Michael Red thought this, but I 637 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: do see some similarities between the demeanor between Kate Cunningham 638 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: and Brandon Royce now they hold themselves, I think, and 639 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: maybe again Red's looking into that. But fun tweet, great 640 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: follow on Twitter for sure. Final game really of note 641 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: here we already talked about Asar Thompson there with Detroit 642 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: or he got slipped in, but am N Thompson twenty 643 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: eight points for Houston last night. They rolled past the 644 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: Suns one fourteen ninety two, despite missing Kevin Durant, who 645 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: is missing the next two games. So he's now missed 646 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: one because of family matters. Hopefully everything's okay with him 647 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: and his fam But thoughts on the Rocks. 648 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: Rocks are obviously doing what they need to do. They 649 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: won the fast break battle eighteen to four in this game. 650 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: I thought that was super important, just getting buckets whenever 651 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: they needed to get them. But Sara Thompson doing it, 652 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in Thompson doing his thing. Alburn Shangun 653 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: doing his thing. I think they should call it the 654 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: Shane Goon shovel. Whenever he's got a little bit of 655 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: a pass, he's underneath, he gets doubled and he goes 656 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: underneath the arms. That was a nice little pass. So 657 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: no Kevin duran out there. They also don't we know 658 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: we don't. They don't have Fred van vliet Tary sent 659 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: out Dorrine Phiney Smith is still on that roster. They're 660 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: missing a lot of guys. And then Read Shepherd comes in, 661 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: looks freaking great, starting as he always does. He looks fantastic. 662 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: He's just figuring things out and then Aaron Holliday comes 663 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: in off the bench with six threes. There's no fights 664 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: with Dylan Brooks. I mean, this team just gets it 665 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: all together. We got close yeaheah, take it close. 666 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: I caught he was getting the flavorant and it was 667 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: like his third file at the end of the half, right, 668 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: he like knocked over. I was like, okay, so this 669 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: isn't actually gonna happen. There's no way Dylan Brooks is 670 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: strong enough to knock over Steve Stup laughing, And there's 671 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: like the great moment with Udoka. 672 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah pushes him. 673 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: I actually exact, I love how much I hate that's 674 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: how much Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks grew after Memphis. Even 675 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: the Rockets can't fight him, they still had friends with 676 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: him there. So yeah, that was just It showed the 677 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: depth of this Rockets team, which is surprising considering all 678 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: of their injuries, considering the kids, well Read Shepherd's the 679 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: only kid at point guard. Aaron Hallid, I guess is 680 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: an old man. But those guys that have never been 681 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: a number one and number two, they have not, so yeah, 682 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: they're they're finding it at all. 683 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 1: And this was one of the games that delivered one 684 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: of Steve Kirby, Your dad's crazy takes. Oh my good 685 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: last night, can you share that with the crowd we're watching, 686 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: We're talking about how Red Shepherd's playing really well. He's 687 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: saying my takes back to me. He's like, they figured 688 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: out how to use Red Shepherd. 689 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I know. He must be listening 690 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 4: to no dunks than he is myday Tuesday, Thursday. 691 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't listen Wednesday or Friday. Listen to the drum. 692 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: Don't know. I don't know. That's what our shows doesn't 693 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 4: He doesn't like rapid fire. I'm kidding. 694 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 3: Anyways, he goes, you know who Reed Shepherd reminds me of. 695 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 3: I'm thinking he's got to say Mark Price for sure. 696 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: Kyle Macy was like who what literal who? So I 697 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: had to look him up on Basketball Reference. Drafted in 698 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy nine. He's got a black and white photo 699 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: on Blasketball Reference. His nickname is Vitalis. I was like, 700 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: this is the oldest person anyone's ever been compared. 701 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 4: To Kyle Macy. 702 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: But he played in the eighties. 703 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 4: He played in the eighties. 704 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 3: I don't know why they won't have a photo was like, 705 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 3: it's like nineteen fifty seven, Like he's playing with sweetwater 706 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: and clifted. 707 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, but like he's got a little bit of 708 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 4: a reed. Shepherd looked to it the look. Yeah. 709 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: But a lot of random sons were coming up. Walter 710 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: Davis I was talking about Devin Booker had just passed 711 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: Walter Davis on the all time scoring list, and then 712 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: we started talking about Alvin Adams. 713 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, another guy. You don't think Alvin Adams looks 714 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: like he does. I couldn't believe there's a guy named 715 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 4: Kyle who was born in the nineteen fifties. I thought 716 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 4: that name. 717 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 3: Started coming around in the nineteen to eight Kyle Macy 718 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: but reached Jeopardy's the new Kyle Macy out there. And 719 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 3: Aaron Holliday, dude's on a roll right now. Twenty two 720 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: points last night, six threes, Like you said, He's been 721 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: in double digits in four of his last five games. 722 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: I remember in the game against the Cavaliers he had 723 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 3: like a massive fourth quarter. I think he had fourteen 724 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. He's up to forty eight percent 725 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: from three this season, Like as long as one of 726 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: Reid and Aaron Holliday shoots well off the bench. They've 727 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: got enough perimeter play at least right now with the 728 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: way Shgun is able to create. Only five assists I 729 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: think last night for Schenggun, but he's up to seven 730 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: assists per game this season doing the Shehngoon shuffle career 731 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 3: high and assists career high and assists right. He draws 732 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: a double team almost every time he catches the ball inside, 733 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 3: and then the Rockets are playing unselfishly enough that they 734 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 3: moved the ball as soon as they get the ball 735 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: out of his hands. The fast break was the difference, 736 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: I really thought in this one, and that's why I'm 737 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 3: huh men. Thompson went nuts just running the court. Looked 738 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 3: like the best athlete out there, as he usually does. 739 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: Two or three like incredible plays. Again, last night, you 740 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: had that double clutch dunk on the baseline. I think 741 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: he got compared to Dominique Wilkins with that one. How 742 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: he put it down and then that beautiful like I 743 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: guess like acrobatics, sort of Jordan like is the best 744 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: way to describe it, sort of up and under the 745 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: defense as he flipped it up and scooped it up 746 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: off the glass. Also pretty that one in transition. Guy 747 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: is just like next level athlete on a floor full 748 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: of athletes. 749 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: It's so weird. 750 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: We've said it a million times at this point. 751 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: But good Win here and he's under control at all times. 752 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: He never rushes himself like a young Brandon Roy or 753 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham or Luka Doncic. I mean he's got a 754 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: post move. Balfick, Balfick, Balfick, Balfick, Balfick. He's got that 755 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: in his game. He's got it all. 756 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: So Rockets win. Other results from last night, Jad, I 757 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: think you've got the board here. Just show it to 758 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: everybody on YouTube. At least I'll read them out quickly 759 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: for everybody. Nicks beat the Nets. They own them. Twelve 760 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: straight victory over Brooklyn, Jamal Murray, Peyton Watson helped the 761 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: Nuggets hold off a late push by the Grizzlies. Jeremy 762 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: Grant thirty five points to lead the Blazers over the 763 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: slumping Bucks. H oh no, Joannis, that's a problem. Zion 764 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: scored twenty nine. Pelicans ended a nine game skid against 765 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: Trey Kirby's Chicago Bulls. Vooch was right, it's not clowning 766 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: around kids. Steph Curry scored thirty one. He looked great 767 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: as the Warriors ran away from the Jazz, and then 768 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: the Kings took advantage of the wolves second straight collapse 769 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: with the one seventeen one to twelve overtime victory. Who 770 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: wants to get a start on any of these that 771 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: you want to point out? 772 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: The Wolves need an asshole, they need Chris Paul, they 773 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: need somebody to finish games just to get them right. 774 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: They're off ten with three minutes left and they only 775 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: scored two points the rest of regulation, so goes into overtime. 776 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: That's when the Kings take care of business. Also, Randall 777 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 2: just didn't finish the game very well, which happens that time. 778 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: Six turnovers for him. Listen, I said the Pacers have 779 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: something to play for the Kings they don't, but I will. 780 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: I will not put them in that same category. But 781 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: it was cool to see some stuff something for fans, 782 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: like Molik Monk diving with him minute left in overtime 783 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: out of bounce to save a ball. That's at least something. Yeah, 784 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: it's not got his. 785 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: Little section of the game where he caught fire too, 786 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: that was big. And then Keegan Murray was was great. 787 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: He really was. Twenty six points, ten to nineteen shooting, 788 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: hit a couple of threes, fourteen rebounds for him as well, 789 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: and all the talk after the game is like, I 790 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: think it was, I guess it was. Zach Levine was like, yeah, 791 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: this is Keegan Murray's team. I love that because he's like, yeah, 792 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: everybody else is gonna get traded, So it's his team 793 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: because it might be the only one left here when 794 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: it's all said and done, but it is and maybe 795 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: should be. So he played great. 796 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: Does that have to do with him not playing in 797 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 2: overtime like Levine played three seconds in overtime they went 798 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: to Malik Monk Monk is playing hard. I'm done game, 799 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: Christie making at least trying different things to see. But yes, 800 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: we'll get to the Kings and Hulu will trade a 801 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: little bit later in the show, and yeah, Levin's on 802 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 2: the table. I will say. Now it's from the Mimuso timberwolfside. 803 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: They've lost too in row. As you said late game, 804 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: they're still in pace for forty eight wins. It's somewhat 805 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 2: like last year where they finished the season off seventeen 806 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: and four, went into the playoffs and doing that but 807 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 2: I guess that's what they do. I guess that's what 808 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 2: an Anthony Edwards seems does now, Like they just don't play, 809 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: so they're above their opponent, to their potential, to their 810 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 2: own potential. A lot of the times that's what they did. 811 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeahgas game completely collapse. 812 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 3: They missed seventeen of their last nineteen shots in the 813 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Chris Finch is just like shuffling guys in 814 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 3: and out, like Jalen Clark, barely played and suddenly he's in, 815 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 3: you know, for defensive purposes. They've got a minus one 816 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 3: point seven net rating in the fourth quarter this season, 817 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 3: and they've played the second easiest schedule in the league. 818 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: So they're blowing these leads because they have absolutely no 819 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: flow offensively, because they have no point guard. Offensively, Anthony 820 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 3: Edwards can be a good playmaker. Randall can be a 821 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 3: good playmaker, but he's turning the ball over a ton 822 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 3: this past week. It just seems like despite the fact 823 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 3: that they brought pretty much everybody back, no chemistry for 824 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 3: this team and no trust from Chris Finch on any 825 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 3: of the young guys. Like Shannon was out of the 826 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 3: lineup with an injury, he came back didn't hardly play. 827 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 3: Rob Dillingham doesn't look like he's ready to be on 828 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: the court right now, does not look strong enough to 829 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: be on the court right now. De Vincenzo not a playmaker. 830 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: Everybody's out there trying to get their own shot, trying 831 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 3: to fix the problem by themselves, when what they need 832 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 3: is a little unity. That's why they were so good 833 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: in the second half of last season, because like you're saying, 834 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 3: they were struggling through the first half of the year 835 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 3: last year. They do have a decent record right now, 836 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 3: it's because they've beaten up on some easy teams. Like 837 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 3: we said yesterday, no wins against winners. Still don't have 838 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: any wins against winners. Something's going to have to change 839 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 3: for this team, and they don't have a lot of 840 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 3: ways to upgrade going forward, so it's going to have 841 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 3: to be internal stuff. 842 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: I think, yep, it's a great point, and I sort 843 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: of pause there on the slumping Bucks line because TK 844 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: you said it in the preseason. Milwaukee has fallen to 845 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: zero to four without Yannis this season. I saw Ziller 846 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: with the breakdown with the numbers, they're pretty alarming. The 847 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: Bucks are plus seventy four this season in Giannis's four 848 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: hundred plus minutes on the court, and they're minus one 849 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 1: twenty five in the four hundred and sixty minutes now 850 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: without him out there, not shocking by any means. Jannis plays, 851 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: they're good. Jannis doesn't play, they're below average unfortunately. 852 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're only winning the past three weeks has been 853 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 3: against the Hornets in overtime, and that was the Konka 854 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 3: Nipple game. Not a great run here for the Bucks. 855 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 3: I was impressed, however, with the Denver Nuggets pulling off 856 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 3: yet another win, this one against the Grizzlies. Jokic was awesome, 857 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 3: seventeen points, sixteen assists. Had a beauty late in the 858 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 3: fourth quarter that was just wowing everybody. A dish to 859 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 3: Peyton Watson. It was like kind of like a spin 860 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 3: move behind the back pass out of the post. Yeah, 861 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: just cool stuff to see Wit a minute to go 862 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: in a close games. Yeah, yeah, that's not a risky pass, 863 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: no for you, of course. I mean he was wide 864 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 3: open as well, Yeah, Watson was. And Watson played really well, 865 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 3: twenty seven points for him. They moved him into the 866 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 3: starting lineup when Christian Brown went down. But now it's 867 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 3: Christian Brown, it's also Aaron Gordon. But in seven games 868 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 3: as a starter, Watson is at sixteen points per game, 869 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 3: seven rebounds, basically a steal and a block per game, 870 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 3: shooting forty seven percent from three. And Jokic is going 871 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: to feed him the ball. He's saying, take the shots. 872 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 3: We don't care if you miss, and right now he's 873 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 3: not missing. If you've got a guy who's going to 874 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 3: empower you, it builds your confidence, and that's what Peyton 875 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 3: Watson needs to be able to shoot well. So if 876 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 3: they can get him rolling and keep him playing well 877 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 3: once their starters come back, that's like another guy who's 878 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 3: going to contribute to this team. 879 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: That's right. 880 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: I said that yesterday. That could be the silver lining 881 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: of the injury to Aaron Gordon and Christian Brown. A 882 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: guy like Watson again, maybe another guy like Strawther. They 883 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: get more opportunity, they get more chances to play with 884 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: these other guys, the starter guys, and maybe you can 885 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: turn into like something special down the line. And yeah, 886 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: part of that rotation and you know, help win a 887 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: quarter or a half or a game even in a 888 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: playoff series. So we'll see by the great game from him. 889 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray too. 890 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: He cooked. 891 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: I thought as well, Okay, those are last night's games. 892 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 4: How about those Tone Warriors. 893 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: You see that was not a City edition court, was it? No? 894 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: It didn't say City edition on I. 895 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 4: Thought it was written in brown in the brown lade. 896 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 4: They had three brown on the court. 897 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 2: There was a long brown. 898 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, maybe I'm brod. 899 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 3: I couldn't see edition was I'm gonna have to go 900 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 3: into the getty images. Yeah, hands and hands and hands. 901 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 4: That's weird though, look like an old timey photo. 902 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the good way to put it. It's like 903 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: that Instagram filter uses anymore. 904 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: It's like, why do we have these still? It's like 905 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 2: old shows coming back. Everything is coming back in terms 906 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 2: of hardwood hardwood floor looks in NBA games, right, I 907 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 2: mean there's NBA teams are just going, oh yeah, that 908 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 2: was cool. Let's do it again. 909 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: Hey we heard what's in That's right. 910 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 4: They were inspired by us. 911 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a break and then we got to 912 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: get to the slop scale. But first award from our sponsors. 913 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: The NBA seasons A grind schedule is is packed games 914 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: every night? See these bags under my eyes? 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Du it do it for the Thanksgiving week. 943 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: We're thankful for you. You'd be thankful, especially for JD's 944 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: hard work here. The NBA trade deadline isn't until February fifth, 945 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: but with a month of the season in the books, 946 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: teams are starting to assess maybe what moves they want 947 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: to make. So let's open up the barn doors, JD. 948 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: Time to beat the pigs. 949 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 3: Snap it up our first slop scale of the season, 950 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 3: where we are our worst intro. 951 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 4: No, this is a good way. Yeah, it literally grosses 952 00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 4: me out to see that. 953 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 2: Trom but it kind of looks like a Thanksgiving Oh God, 954 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: the same color, same color pattern. 955 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: You're wrong, green corn gravy. So we're weighing in on 956 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: the latest NBA trade rumors using the slop scale. So 957 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: the heavier, the juicier, the sloppier an NBA trade rumor, 958 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: the more buckets a slop the boys will assign to it. 959 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: We go from one bucket to slop all the way 960 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: up to five buckets of slop. That is maximum slop. 961 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: So let's get it started. First one here, DeMar Derosen 962 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: is drawing some interest from the LA Clippers, according to 963 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: the Athletic Sam Amic, in part because of his partially 964 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: guaranteed contract for next season that could pay him only 965 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: ten million dollars of the twenty seven million dollar deal. 966 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: So we start with this one. Clippers interested in Derozen? 967 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: How many buckets a slop? 968 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 2: I'm not lying for this one. It's one bucket of slop. 969 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: It ain't happening. I don't buy it at all. Okay, 970 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: they need a three point shooter or ain't that? Do 971 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 2: we need another older player? No disrespect to Damorrow, but 972 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 2: this team doesn't need to get older. It's the same 973 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: shot maps as Kawhi Leonard out there. Why do you 974 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 2: do you need to pull it out? You're old, you 975 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: need to This team needs to pull it out. I 976 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 2: guess they tried to get tomorrow. They thought they're getting 977 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 2: tomorrow when Kawhi tours a cl Likes four years ago 978 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 2: when they were on their conference finals run those Clippers. 979 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 2: All that was the day, and then that offseason there 980 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 2: was lots to talk about tomorrow going there. But do 981 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 2: you need him now? It doesn't make sense to me. 982 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 2: I understand the partial guarantee is appealing because it's not 983 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: a ton of money in twenty six twenty seven, but still, 984 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 2: I know the Kings are going to do something, and 985 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 2: anything for a Kings fan right now that we'll get 986 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 2: to a little bit later is good. But this ain't 987 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 2: good for the Clippers. I don't get it. 988 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So one bucket of slop. Barely wanted to. 989 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 2: Give it that, So yeah, there's literally you can't pick 990 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 2: no buckets a slot. You got to give. 991 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: Clean something. That's right, okay, TK agree or disagree with 992 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: one bucket to slop on Clippers interested in Darny Rosen. 993 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 4: So if I'm saying five buckets a slop, I think 994 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:22,959 Speaker 4: it's gonna happen. 995 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. 996 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: I think you love it. You think it's possible. 997 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lawrence Frank wants it. 998 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: Four buckets a slop. Oh, this is a Clippers kind 999 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 4: of move. 1000 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 3: Get older, Get another guy from LA, get another guy 1001 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 3: who shoots mid range. 1002 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 4: Jumpers. 1003 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 3: I think it's absolutely perfect for them. Okay, stupid move, 1004 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 3: which is why the Clippers would do it. I think 1005 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 3: this is actually pretty good for the Kings to turn 1006 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 3: a slightly longer contract into Rosen into a guy in 1007 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 3: John Collins who's gonna be expiring pretty much right away. 1008 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,919 Speaker 3: And he also kind of fills a position of need. 1009 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 3: We've had some bonus go out with injury. They lost 1010 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 3: Valanciunis over the offseason, they signed Precious to Chew and 1011 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 3: now he's playing major minutes for them, So getting a 1012 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 3: big guy I think would. 1013 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 4: Actually help the Kings a little bit. 1014 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a smart move and I don't 1015 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 3: really think it would change things for the Clippers. 1016 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 4: But DeRozan at least plays. 1017 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 3: You know, you're saying he has the exact same shot 1018 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 3: map as Kawhi Leonard one hundred percent true, But Kawhi 1019 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,439 Speaker 3: plays fifty per games and DeRozan plays one hundred percent 1020 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 3: of the game. 1021 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 4: So at least he's got a Kawhi like player out 1022 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 4: there all the time. 1023 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 3: They need somebody else who can score, because right now, 1024 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 3: if Hardin is not doing something, nobody's doing anything. And 1025 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 3: I mean an opportunity to add eight years to your roster. 1026 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 4: Beautiful. Okay, all right, trade four bucket of the slot? 1027 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: Task just one? All right, keep it going. We'll stick 1028 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: with the Kings here. The Kings apparently will trade anyone 1029 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: basically here. A new report from Jake Fisher in the 1030 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: Steinline says that the Kings are willing to part ways 1031 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: with any and all players other than Keegan Murray and 1032 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:02,760 Speaker 1: rookie Unique Clifford. Fisher added that, but it's unlikely Zach, Levine, Demarta, Rosen, 1033 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: and Sabonis bring back much to Sacramento in terms of 1034 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: the trade. Sound like it could be John Collins, but 1035 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: the idea from Fisher Kings open to trading every player 1036 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 1: except Keigan Murray and Nie Clifford. How many buckets a slop? 1037 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: TK will start with you. 1038 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 3: We'll trade everybody except for the people that you might want. 1039 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 3: So give me three buckets a slop. I think the 1040 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 3: Kings are going to make a move. Disappointing season, high 1041 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 3: pay roll, and they have veterans in Levine, DeRozan and 1042 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 3: maybe Sibonis who you can at least talk yourself into 1043 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 3: a team that thinks they're a contender, who's had a 1044 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 3: disappointing season, you. 1045 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 4: Know, like, I don't know. 1046 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 3: The Clippers, for instance, could be interested, right, Like, I 1047 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 3: don't know. If Paul George goes down with another injury, 1048 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 3: maybe a team like the Sixers can talk themselves in 1049 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 3: to a DeRozan or something along those lines. Levine puts 1050 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 3: up efficient numbers. It's unbelievable, Like he shoots great percentages, 1051 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 3: he scores a t he gets to the rim, he 1052 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 3: shoots threes, and. 1053 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 4: It never adds up to anything. No, but every team 1054 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 4: can convince theirself and then when you trade for him, 1055 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 4: you're like, let's go. This guy's a highlight factory. 1056 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny you said that because Fisher wrote quote, 1057 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: I've heard multiple seats. I've heard multiple teams say that 1058 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: a Levine market could indeed take shape if he were 1059 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 1: willing to bypass his forty eight point nine million player 1060 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: option for the twenty six to twenty seven season and 1061 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 1: replace it with a longer term deal at a lower 1062 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: annual salary end. 1063 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 2: Quote. 1064 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: That's Fisher on Levine specifically tasks sort of speaking to 1065 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: what trade has said. 1066 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 2: He is good, is good, but. 1067 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 1: Maybe now at this point with that contract, you'd like 1068 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 1: it for a longer term deal on much less money. 1069 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like Zach Levine's going to play for 1070 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 2: several more years in this league. If you can get 1071 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 2: it at a better rate, it's understandable. If he's going 1072 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 2: to fill sort of fill in. Obviously he can score. 1073 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 2: There's no doubt depending on the roster makeup, he could 1074 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 2: play a role. So yeah, I think he's available. I 1075 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 2: think everybody is available for the sacram mechanics. They need 1076 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 2: something for the fans to get a little excited. There 1077 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 2: hasn't been any sort of effort. I know it's not 1078 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 2: a pig town, it's more of a cow town. But 1079 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 2: but Phil the troughs, five troughs, five buckets for that 1080 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 2: trough scoop that trough do anything, do anything for this 1081 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 2: fan base, whether it's Levigne or DeRozan. I think Demanta 1082 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 2: Sabonis could be traded. There's a de Yeah. I think 1083 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 2: you know what you're getting from your Vets. You know 1084 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 2: who they are, you know their peak, and it's probably time. 1085 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if Scott Perry is willing to do it. 1086 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 2: There just is no fight on this team, and so 1087 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 2: it makes sense that they want to keep KEEGI Murray 1088 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 2: Nie Clifford probably keep ke On Ellis super duper Chief. 1089 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: Fisher says more than half the league is called about 1090 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: ke On Ellis, understand and that he might have the 1091 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: highest trade value of all these guys, you know, a 1092 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: big part of that. Obviously makes a lot less money 1093 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: than those other guys, but maybe and them like a 1094 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 1: first round pick, because teams look at ke On els 1095 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 1: as like a you know, a piece that sort of 1096 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 1: puts you over the over the top top trying to 1097 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: say at the edge of the. 1098 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 2: Top, Yeah, I wonder how much it's coming back for 1099 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,800 Speaker 2: because he makes two million dollars. You got to figure 1100 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 2: out the money money wise. 1101 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: Pick. 1102 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 4: That's why it's why it would have to be a pick, 1103 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 4: because they're not going to get a player. 1104 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 2: Back, yeah, that low of the contract, unless the Sacramento 1105 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 2: Kings say, hey, you've got to take one of our vets. 1106 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 2: You want Keon you gotta take one of our vets, 1107 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 2: and then the money starts getting worked up so we 1108 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 2: can go with the money. Dennis Shrewder was three for 1109 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 2: forty five that he signed this year, right, he kind 1110 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 2: of made it up for when he didn't sign that 1111 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 2: Lakers contract way back when four for eighty four, he said, no, 1112 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm not taking it because I'm going to get more, 1113 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 2: and he didn't and. 1114 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: Now he's he got paid, so now he's overpaid. 1115 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is his contract, man, this is this is 1116 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 2: his last contract. Good for him, but that team stinky GM. 1117 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: Scott Perry does not plan to pursue Trey Young, LaMelo 1118 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 1: Ball or Ja Morant because quote, none of those lead 1119 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: guards is known for the sort of defensive toughness that 1120 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: the King's New Regime has made it clear once to 1121 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: be a priority. So whether you believe that or not, 1122 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: you can maybe take the Kings out of any running 1123 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: for those potential three names. 1124 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 3: New regime I think is important because Scott Perry didn't 1125 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 3: build this team, so he has zero connection to the players. 1126 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 3: The only guys he brought in were Dennis Schrueer, so 1127 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,760 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, he's not off to a hot start. 1128 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 3: But it means that you don't have the connection. You 1129 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 3: don't feel like, oh I built a great team. Let's 1130 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 3: see how it actually plays out. You can make some moves. 1131 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 3: The biggest thing for the Kings is if they trade 1132 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 3: these veterans, they will get somehow a little bit even worse, 1133 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 3: and then they would get a chance at a really 1134 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 3: high draft pick, which would be what would really get 1135 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 3: Kings fans excited, because I don't think shipping vets away 1136 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 3: and getting picks back is exciting, but having good lottery 1137 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 3: odds can be. 1138 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,359 Speaker 1: Exciting for sure in a loaded draft at that all right, 1139 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: According to NBA insider Jake Fisher will stick with him, 1140 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz quote would almost certainly want forward a 1141 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: Sartoe Thompson in return for trading Lowry Market into the Pistons. 1142 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: Quote sources say that the Jazz in fact consider trading 1143 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: up to select Asar Thompson during the twenty twenty three 1144 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: NBA Draft. The Pistons, as you can imagine, do not 1145 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: want to trade their Thompson. Twin end quote tasks buckets 1146 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: a slop on the Jazz wanting Asar Thompson. If they're 1147 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 1: doing any sort of move for Lowry Market. 1148 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 2: In the Utah Jazz absolutely want Asar Thompson. 1149 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: Would they get them? 1150 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 2: No? I don't think so. I don't think so. No 1151 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 2: disrespect to Lowry still young. It's going to be an 1152 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 2: all star here in this new international versus USA format. 1153 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 2: I think Larry Market is a great player. But the 1154 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons cannot give up on this upswing of who 1155 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 2: they are. There's no way, there's no way you give 1156 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 2: up a sar Thompson. I just don't get it. Pair 1157 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 2: him with Cad and I get it from from the 1158 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 2: Utah Jazz perspective. I mean, they haven't destroyed in the 1159 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 2: draft the last few years. They picked five, nine and 1160 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 2: ten to Ace Bailey, but they want somebody awesome immediately. 1161 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,280 Speaker 2: And this is of course you think about trading Larry marketing. 1162 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 2: But if you're not getting Asar Thompson, I think it 1163 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 2: makes more sense to keep him around in this this 1164 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 2: jesting that's overachieving, may not even be an incredible draft 1165 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,399 Speaker 2: season for them because they're They're just good in a way. 1166 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 2: So I think Detroit would be smarter to go get 1167 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior instead. Instead of having to give up more, 1168 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 2: you give up less for Michael Porter Junior. He's not 1169 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 2: paid for as long it's only a contract this year 1170 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 2: and next. It lines up better with when your team 1171 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 2: has to give extensions to Asar Thompson and to other guys, 1172 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 2: So I think that makes a little bit more Such 1173 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 2: he's a year younger than Larry Markinon. I think that 1174 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:48,919 Speaker 2: one makes more sense. 1175 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: So you're your low buckets a slot here on this one. 1176 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 2: Well, it depends on how we're sloping. Do the Jazzar 1177 00:53:54,560 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 2: Thompson realistic? I don't think the do it at all, 1178 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 2: very unrealistic one hundred. 1179 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 3: Percent agree with tasts one simple bucket of slop here. 1180 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 3: I think the Pistons should let it marinate like that 1181 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 3: slop may. They're having an awesome start to the year. 1182 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 3: They have played the easiest schedule in the Eastern Conference 1183 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 3: so far. They're such a young team, and eventually they're 1184 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 3: gonna have to pay guys like they're gonna have to 1185 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 3: pay Jayalen Dirt. He didn't sign an extension before this year, 1186 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,439 Speaker 3: and he's taking a step forward, so he's getting even 1187 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 3: more and more expensive because once he hits restricted free 1188 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 3: agency next year, a team will offer him a really 1189 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 3: good deal, and if he decides to sign it, Pistons 1190 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 3: can obviously match, but it will cost them a pretty penny. 1191 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't think that making a move for 1192 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 3: marketing makes a ton of sense for Detroit, and I 1193 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 3: would rather have Michael Porter junior. Anyways, You're totally right. 1194 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 3: I think he's an equivalent player to Lowry Marketing. 1195 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if I'm Detroit, I don't want either 1196 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: of those guys, just with House, well we started and 1197 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,839 Speaker 1: where our future is going and who were backed by 1198 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,879 Speaker 1: And I bring up those two guys like I get 1199 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: you the marketing and Mike Port Junior. But like Carlisle 1200 00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 1: said it after last night's game, this team is like 1201 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: being built similarly to like the bad Boy Pistons, where 1202 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: it's physicality, it's toughness. There's sort of the mirror image, 1203 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 1: he said of those squads that he used to coach 1204 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 1: right before they won that four championship of that version 1205 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 1: of the team. Those two guys smarking in Michael Porter 1206 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: Junior do not scream bad boys to me. So don't 1207 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,320 Speaker 1: worry about fattening up the piggies. If you're Detroit, go 1208 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,879 Speaker 1: vegan for this season, try it out and don't mess 1209 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 1: with what's working right now. But yeah, the Jazz Wana 1210 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 1: sar Thompson. So would I if I was the Utah Jazz. 1211 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: That part makes sense, all right? Final one here in 1212 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 1: the slop scale from our guy, Timmy Bontemps. Timmy good times, 1213 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: he said during Monday's episode, of the Hoop Collective. Anthony 1214 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,240 Speaker 1: Davis's trade value isn't as high as many would expect 1215 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 1: for a player of his caliber. Quote there's not a 1216 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: lot of teams that are lining up to take on 1217 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,880 Speaker 1: a thirty five year old AD making sixty three million 1218 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 1: end quote Bontec was talking about ad sort of would 1219 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: be in the final year of that deal making around 1220 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: sixty three million. So Bontem's saying teams aren't lining up 1221 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 1: here for ad TK. How many buckets to slop we 1222 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 1: out with this one. 1223 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 3: Well, when you put it that way, that he's thirty 1224 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 3: three three years old, making sixty three million dollars and 1225 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 3: never plays, I would have to agree that it's hard 1226 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 3: to come up with an idea for who should go 1227 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 3: after him. But I think if the MAVs were to 1228 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 3: make him officially available, we got Mark Cuban fake and 1229 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 3: the Funk saying there's no way we'd ever trade, right right, Yeah, you. 1230 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 4: Would, of course you would. 1231 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: Mark stop lying to stop. 1232 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 3: Lying to us, and other people are lying to Maybe 1233 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,800 Speaker 3: they're not lining up, but the packages won't be what 1234 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 3: you're expecting from a guy who, when he plays, is 1235 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 3: an All NBA caliber player can have an impact on 1236 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 3: both sides of the ball, makes your defense better instantly, 1237 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 3: and is still an effective offensive player. But you know, 1238 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 3: if the MAVs continue to struggle, it just doesn't make 1239 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 3: sense for them to hang on to Anthony Davis. They 1240 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 3: don't have a lot of future assets because Nico Harrison 1241 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 3: traded them all away. They should fire this guy them 1242 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,240 Speaker 3: all the way to build a perfect team around Luka Doncic, 1243 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 3: but it leaves the Coffers pretty bare. If they're trying 1244 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 3: to build around Cooper flag which they should. Anthony Davis 1245 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,359 Speaker 3: should be available. Klay Thompson will be available as well, 1246 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 3: But both of these guys are nearing the tail end 1247 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 3: of their career in Clay's case and the tail end 1248 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 3: of his prime in Anthony Davis's case. But these are 1249 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 3: your best chances to get any sort of future assets back, 1250 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,439 Speaker 3: which is why the MAVs need to move these guys. 1251 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 3: They're not going to have a winning season this year. 1252 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 3: They need to keep their pick. They need to get 1253 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 3: another decent lottery pick. They need to hit on that one. 1254 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 3: To have building blocks around Cooper, around Derek Lively, they 1255 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 3: need a perimeter guy. It seems like to me they 1256 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 3: would like if they get gifted the number one pick again, 1257 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 3: they would take Darren Peterson. They would want a guard 1258 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 3: out there, another playmaker. But it makes sense for the 1259 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 3: MAVs to trade Anthony Davis. I'll give this one a 1260 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 3: two point five slopper. 1261 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, they have to. They have to trade Anthony Davis. 1262 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 2: The teardown has to continue for their fan base, for 1263 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 2: that organization. Yes, it feels good to trade Nico Harrison 1264 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 2: for a lot of those fans, but it has to 1265 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,439 Speaker 2: continue with Anthony Davis. My question is what's the better 1266 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 2: route to get the most for Anthony Davis. Is it 1267 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: him coming back being healthy looking great, or is it 1268 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 2: this idea of Anthony Davis helping out a team that 1269 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 2: could go for it. I think it's a bit risky 1270 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 2: him coming back because he's got a calf injury, so 1271 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,919 Speaker 2: he hasn't got into basketball shape in the last couple months, 1272 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 2: and he wasn't in that I shouldnt say last cople months, 1273 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 2: the last month. He wasn't in that when he was playing, 1274 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 2: So there's that risk. Maybe there's another calf injury like 1275 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 2: Lucas last year. So I think there is a bit 1276 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 2: of a risk because I'd agree with Tim bontems The 1277 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 2: teams may not be lining up, but you got to 1278 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 2: take what you can get right now. If you're Mark Cuban, 1279 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 2: who's now jumping on in with Michael Finley and Rashardi, 1280 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 2: you gotta get something for Anthony Davis. It truly makes 1281 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 2: the most sense for this, but it's. 1282 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: It's tough because you got to have a lot of 1283 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 1: money coming back to make any sort of deal work. 1284 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: Here he makes fifty four million dollars right this year, 1285 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: let alone the player option that we're talking about, or 1286 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: Bontemps is talking about a couple of years from now, 1287 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: which I'm gonna guess he's gonna pick up unless suddenly 1288 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: he gets healthy again here and plays himself into one 1289 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 1: big final, you know, Payday. But that's the tough part. 1290 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, like trying to just put together enough 1291 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: salary to get back for any sort of deal. You know, 1292 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 1: like like the Warriors could use a semi healthy version 1293 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: of Anthony Davis, like no doubt they could honestly use 1294 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: like a bonus sort of healthy in terms of gobbling 1295 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: up rebound and stuff like that. But then you got 1296 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: to get into the contracts of it all on how 1297 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: you're making that work. Yeah, Kaminga is a piece, but 1298 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 1: he's not making a ton of money, so there's still 1299 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: a lot of money to fill in there in the 1300 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 1: trade machine. So it's just difficult. But I'm with you guys, 1301 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: like I do believe the move is for them to 1302 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 1: get off of Anthony Davis. Whether he comes back and 1303 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 1: plays and helps his trade value a little bit here 1304 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 1: before the deadline, sure. 1305 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just has to look healthy. If he comes 1306 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 2: back and just plays one game, that's enough, then he's that. 1307 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 2: He's out there. He's out there. I thought this was 1308 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 2: the year he was wearing the eye gogs. That was 1309 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 2: the main reason he got injured last year was the 1310 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 2: eye injuries, multiple eye injuries. His eyes are safe. The 1311 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 2: problem is knees down. He's thirty two, as you said, 1312 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 2: he was going to be thirty three next year. This 1313 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 2: team has to the team that acquires him has to 1314 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 2: be super close, right. They have to think, whoa one piece? 1315 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 2: We're one piece away and it could be Anthony Davis. Yeah, competing, Yeah, 1316 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 2: because that's happened soon with Anthony Davis. You don't know 1317 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 2: how many more years you have with Anthony Davis. No disrespect, 1318 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 2: but he's he is getting older, and we're seeing again 1319 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 2: with the calf injuries that are happening around and Anthony 1320 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 2: Davis getting it might be a three team deal where 1321 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 2: that money goes around to get involved, a third team deal, 1322 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 2: so Mapps don't have to take as much back in 1323 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 2: terms of long term money. But Cubes got to think 1324 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 2: about it. He's got to think about this as much 1325 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 2: as I Cubes listening to Cubans interviews saying we got 1326 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 2: to do something for the fans here, We've got to 1327 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 2: do more for the fans. 1328 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:08,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, we get some wins. Yeah, it usually works well, yeah, 1329 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 1: or not or not, and it's like, yeah, this is 1330 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 1: a down year, and stick with us and we'll be 1331 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 1: back next year if we luckily hit in the draft again. 1332 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 1: And this is just Cooper Flag growing year, showing the potential. 1333 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it'll be as simple as that, and you 1334 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 2: can finally wipe your hands clean of that whole Luka, 1335 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 2: doncic slash Anthony Davis era if you trade Anthony Davis. 1336 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: All right, that's the slop. Wasn't the juiciest. Let's be honest. 1337 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 1: It's just a start. We're getting going. There'll be more 1338 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: twenty days until the official start until December fifteenth slop season. Yeah, 1339 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 1: you're right. 1340 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 3: You gave me a stink guy when I said that 1341 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 3: Michael Porter Junior was an equivalent player to Lowry marketing. 1342 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, you're right, good I good eye. I'm a 1343 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 2: Lowry fan. Who do I want in a playoff round 1344 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,919 Speaker 2: playoff series. 1345 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 4: That's got a title or the guy that's never played 1346 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 4: in the play. 1347 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 2: Calling bi Lstie's got a freaking title too, Man, everybody gets. 1348 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 4: Porter Junior played in the finals. He was good in the. 1349 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 2: Playoffs for the Nuggets. So did Jordan Poole. I mean, 1350 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 2: there's lots of Larry's. I think he's underrated in terms 1351 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 2: of how much he can help. It's a good equivalent. 1352 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 4: But who do you think is averaging Morris Is per 1353 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:23,440 Speaker 4: game this year? 1354 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 3: Michael Porter Junior never swinging the rock or Larry's Michael 1355 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 3: Porter June Absolutely, yes. 1356 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Will Hardy has got that ball moving to 1357 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 2: Larry market He knows what Larry Markin's role is. What's 1358 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 2: happening with the Brooklyn Nets is give him the ball 1359 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 2: and watch him do things. Oh, he's fine. 1360 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 4: What's happening. What's happening with the Jazz. 1361 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 2: They're winning games. He's scoring freaking fifteen. Yeah. What are 1362 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 2: the Brooklyn nets three and fourteen? Yeah? 1363 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 4: Exactly, it's basically the same. 1364 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 2: Come on, just the same guy. 1365 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying they're equivalent players. Who averages more 1366 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 3: rebounds the seven footer or Michael Porter Junior. Michael, Yeah, 1367 01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 3: that's exactly right. 1368 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm not touching either of these guys. 1369 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 3: I'm telling is the Western Conference Michael Porter Junior. Put 1370 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,200 Speaker 3: him on the nets or put him on the jazz. 1371 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 3: He's gonna score twenty five a game. 1372 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe in Lowry's bod, going and fighting and driving. 1373 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 4: The games playing in the past few years. 1374 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: I believe in his boo. 1375 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 2: I think he's going to drive. I just mean he's 1376 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 2: going to drive Michael Port Junior where we know where 1377 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 2: he's shooting from. We know where he's shooting from. Lowry 1378 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 2: Marketing will at least put it on the floor us 1379 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 2: that drive. I don't care. 1380 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's marketing. Michael Porter Junior is good. He's underrated. 1381 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 4: I'm sorry he is. And he's played in the playoffs 1382 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 4: a lot. 1383 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 2: Okay, he's played with nikolay Okich. Of course, Lowry market 1384 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 2: who would play in the playoffs, so he played with 1385 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 2: you know, that's a part of it. 1386 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying I've seen it in the playoffs with 1387 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 4: Michael Porter Jr. Can I see it? 1388 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 3: I love this. 1389 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: I did not expect a Lowry marketing versus Michael Porter 1390 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Junior debate here on no dunt. 1391 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 3: Low market You get a guy an opportunity, they're going 1392 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 3: to score twenty five points per game. Remember Mikal Bridges, 1393 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 3: he scored twenty five a game when he got to 1394 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 3: touch the ball all the time. Marketing gets to touch 1395 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 3: the ball all the time, and he gets twenty eight 1396 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 3: a game. 1397 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 2: All right. 1398 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 4: The Porter Junior gets the ball all the time, he 1399 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 4: gets twenty five a gait. 1400 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both good players. Yeah. Anyways, that's why I 1401 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 2: said Detroit games. 1402 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 4: With eighty eight percent think that marketing is better. 1403 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think. Yeah, Michael ports. 1404 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 4: Not on podcast. That's the major, major thing that's our benefit. Yeah, 1405 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:28,280 Speaker 4: exactly right. 1406 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, I will say, listen, I said Detroit, curious Lowry 1407 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 2: doesn't have the same ring curious Mark. 1408 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 4: Okay, that's good. 1409 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, curious Mike. The good thing about him is he's 1410 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 2: trying to rein it in. He was asked to talk 1411 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 2: less about things, and he is doing that. 1412 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 1: He was basically told he stopped telling you about some 1413 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: of these dumb ass places. 1414 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all right, I love it. 1415 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 1: That's a slop. 1416 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 2: Don't worry. 1417 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 1: Slop will get juice here and the season goes on. Here, 1418 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 1: let's go to Wilby. 1419 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 2: Let will get juicier. 1420 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Bit literally. Line of the night Karl Anthony Towns, a 1421 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: guy we've barely talked about this year. Honestly, great game 1422 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 1: last day. Game high thirty seven points led the Knicks 1423 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: over the crosstown rival Brooklyn Nets. Town shot fourteen to 1424 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: twenty from the floor, three or four from deep, perfect 1425 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 1: at the line, six to six, game high, twelve boards, 1426 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 1: three dimes, steal, two blocks, bonus points, only committed one 1427 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: turnover in thirty three minutes played. Yeah, we haven't talked 1428 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 1: a lot. We've talked a lot about the Brooklyn excuse me, 1429 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: the New York Knicks or the Boston Celtics. 1430 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:33,600 Speaker 3: I just have it. 1431 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, and the Celtics. And you wrote about this 1432 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 1: in the power rankings on substack. I saw today that 1433 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: would make sense, Like we've talked about this team for 1434 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: so long. Notatum out of the equation, just like we've 1435 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 1: been talking about other teams, so they've sort of just 1436 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 1: like and they've been decent, like John Brown unbelievable, Yeah, 1437 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 1: like he really is. But the Knicks are like a 1438 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 1: level below that. I haven't talked about them much because 1439 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 1: they were like, we know what they are, we know 1440 01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 1: they're good, and we'll see you come April and May. 1441 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 4: Who says no Carl Anthony Towns for Anthony Davis. 1442 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 3: Because they're like two guys who were actually pretty similar 1443 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 3: on the salary scale. 1444 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 1: I think the Knicks say no, they did. 1445 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 4: I agree they're calling CIA. 1446 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they say no. 1447 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1448 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 1: But a big part of that is just ad you 1449 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 1: can't trust them, and why are you gonna trust them? 1450 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 3: Moving? 1451 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 1: Getting older to even play anymore is the problem? 1452 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 2: All right? 1453 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 1: That's well, boy, wait to go, cat cat Man do 1454 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:26,960 Speaker 1: he did it? 1455 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 2: He did it? Uh? 1456 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,479 Speaker 1: Pick them tonight? Task There's only three games on NBA 1457 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 1: Cup Action. These are big games. 1458 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 2: Let's go to Los Angeles where the Lakers are hosting 1459 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 2: the Clippers and they are six and a half point favorite. 1460 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 4: Ooh, so. 1461 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 2: Trey and I both believe in the Lakers covering seven 1462 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 2: points or more. Well, skeets. You're taking the Clippers to 1463 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 2: lose by six or less or obviously when why are 1464 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 2: you taking the Clippers? 1465 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 1: Oh, this is the Clippers NBA Championship tonight. Cup, Man, 1466 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 1: you gotta this. Whoever wins this is looking pretty good 1467 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 1: to move to the knockout stage. So I'll say the 1468 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Clippers keep it close. James Harden's on a heater right now. Yeah, 1469 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 1: maybe he puts on a SHOWOC fifty had a slow game. 1470 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but look, I hate the Clippers, so this 1471 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:14,400 Speaker 1: is not great for me. 1472 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 2: But why are you taking the Lakers? Trey? 1473 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 4: I think they're a lot better. You're right, they are. 1474 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 2: There no question. 1475 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 3: They're three best players, would be by far the three 1476 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 3: best players on the Clippers. 1477 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,360 Speaker 4: That was the main thing for me. I think they're 1478 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 4: very good. 1479 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: The concern to me is like, Okay, I'll take the 1480 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 1: Clippers because I got a lot of points to play with, 1481 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 1: right Like, could be obviously a Lakers four or five 1482 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: point win, that's realistic. But then you add that cup 1483 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 1: element in that means the Lakers are they're not going 1484 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: to take their foot off the gas at the end 1485 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 1: because differential matters. Though they will be in the driver's 1486 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 1: seat picking up this victory. If they do, they'd go 1487 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: to three and oh Clippers that follow two and one 1488 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 1: in the Cup play. But come on, come on, old guys, 1489 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 1: for the Cup. 1490 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 2: Come on for the Cup. This is the seventh game 1491 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 2: of the Clippers road trip. This game is it considered 1492 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 2: a road trip because it's in LA I always consider 1493 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 2: the first game home after long road trip to be 1494 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 2: a bit of a dud. It's happened to teams, and 1495 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 2: so I think this is kind of like their first 1496 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 2: game home. 1497 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: Oh they're not playing on the same arena anymore. Yeah, yeah, 1498 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:20,600 Speaker 1: they don't even have that. 1499 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's traffic. 1500 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, Clips, keep it close. I want 1501 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 1: to end this month in style. I like this record 1502 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 1: right now. Eleven and five, Trade, nine and seven test, 1503 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, and some w's here. The last a little 1504 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 1: bit had the Raps once again. You may have gone 1505 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 1: zero and three with the Raps cast after losing last night. 1506 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens tonight. A couple Cup games 1507 01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,000 Speaker 1: only three on, but don't you worry. We'll be here 1508 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 1: tomorrow to talk about those games, and it'll be our 1509 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,600 Speaker 1: final show of the week. Because of Thanksgiving. Here in 1510 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 1: the States. So we'll have some Thanksgiving NBA fun tomorrow. 1511 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 1: Start thinking about the biggest NBA turkey this year, Start 1512 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 1: thinking about which players cranberry sauce, which player's green beans, 1513 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:06,759 Speaker 1: Start thinking about what the hell that even means? 1514 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:07,599 Speaker 2: Which play. 1515 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,680 Speaker 3: So we'll have some fun on tomorrows around what's the 1516 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 3: most underrated Thanksgiving dish? 1517 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:14,840 Speaker 4: We decided green beans. 1518 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 2: I think it's a good picks. 1519 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: You asked on substag. What were some answers? 1520 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:20,440 Speaker 4: I forget. 1521 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,799 Speaker 1: Any other options for you most underrated Thanksgiving dish? Besides 1522 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 1: green beans. 1523 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 2: I'm sticking with stuffing. I know, dressing for some in America, 1524 01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 2: stuffing for some outside of America. I know that it's 1525 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 2: key player to me. Yeah, but that's because you rate it. 1526 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 2: That's because you rated highly. I think a lot of 1527 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 2: people just don't. They're just not having enough. Yeah, I 1528 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 2: think that's a part of it. Yeah. And they call 1529 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 2: it dressing, which is a lot of time it's in 1530 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:56,679 Speaker 2: the turkey stuffed. What do they call it here more dressing? 1531 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, depends. 1532 01:09:58,760 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: I go back and forth. 1533 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 4: It's in the bird, it's stuffing, if it's out it's dressed. 1534 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 4: I mean, I love both exactly. People are a lot 1535 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,679 Speaker 4: of people are saying stuffing dressing is the most underrated. 1536 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was perfectly rated. 1537 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's on the mount rush. 1538 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 3: So do what it? 1539 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:21,799 Speaker 4: No sound interesting? Oh no, a cold potato? Maybe it's underrated, 1540 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,719 Speaker 4: it's not. I'm guy. Lawrence says, the green veggie side dishes, 1541 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,759 Speaker 4: you need that fiber to assist in comfortable exit. 1542 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 1: He gets it. 1543 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 4: A shrimp cocktail. What are you doing? 1544 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 1545 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,200 Speaker 4: Jared fucking creed olives? 1546 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 1: That's crazy as an underrated Thanksgiving dish, green olives, this 1547 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 1: is stupid, stupid. 1548 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 4: I like this one. 1549 01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 3: Celebrion says, love me some Hawaiian rolls. If you want 1550 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,280 Speaker 3: to count rolls as a whole side. 1551 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 4: And this you don't think about the roll that's interesting. Yeah, 1552 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:57,599 Speaker 4: they're just there. 1553 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 2: Hawaiian rolls. That's a good roll. 1554 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 1: You don't have it enough either. That's only a thing, 1555 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 1: not only, but doesn't appear in your life very often. 1556 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:08,720 Speaker 2: Right, you're right. 1557 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 1: Holiday is really when it comes around, and I love that. 1558 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 3: You can just build a fattle plate, a real slop 1559 01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:19,599 Speaker 3: trough of food. Just throw roll on the top, role, 1560 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,680 Speaker 3: just stack it on top, throw it on there. 1561 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm getting hungry can't wait. But anyway, we'll have a 1562 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 1: fun drop podcast for you tomorrow, seeing as it will 1563 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,000 Speaker 1: be our last one live of the week until that. 1564 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 1: No Clipper bros, you heard it here first. 1565 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,760 Speaker 4: Have a great time, turn up. 1566 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us, and remember 1567 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 2: you can't get over the shrimp. Shrimp is not a 1568 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,439 Speaker 2: side dish. This is not You don't have it on 1569 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 2: your plate. You can have it as an appetizer, right, 1570 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 2: but it also prevents the comfortable exit. Was that was 1571 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 2: that the termfort Yeah, that's a weird one. I mean, 1572 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 2: that's just for sure you're backing yourself up a little 1573 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 2: bit more. I would sick. 1574 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 1: I would say, be careful what the shrips? This week 1575 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 1: everybody bringson eight people