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Speaker 1: Matt John, the team here at Michael, the team putting

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Speaker 2: What should we tackle? What's right? What's wrong?

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Speaker 1: It's not what people want to hear, what we what's

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Speaker 1: Right now, that same congressmen, go rouse their social media

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Speaker 1: The fact is this, Americans are buried and credit card

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Speaker 1: That's American citizens burying themselves in personal debt, high interest debt,

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Speaker 2: You're in it. And the worst part, the worst part

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Speaker 1: It says, if the Titanic ran into the iceberg and

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Speaker 2: What about California.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're sitting there thinking I don't live in California.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you do live in California.

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Speaker 1: But no matter what, you should understand that California is

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Speaker 1: California Ports affected everyone, California energy, California, everything. California is

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Speaker 1: a big part of this nation. California is drowning in debt,

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Speaker 2: To fix it, Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Can we explain to Californians how we move from one

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Speaker 2: They're not stopping anything. They're not even slowing down.

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Speaker 2: This situation to begin with.

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Speaker 1: Look, Joe Biden is starting starting to talk about these things.

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Speaker 3: Are you worried that.

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Speaker 4: You're running out of time to turn that around?

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Speaker 8: We've already turned around. Look you look at the Michigan

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll set aside the nine percent lie. It's

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the jobs for just a quick moment.

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Speaker 1: This is another thing people aren't necessarily realizing. What's happening, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: When's it going to get here? What's it look like?

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Speaker 2: Well, they're talking about jobs a lot. The jobs mverers

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Speaker 1: Here's Joe Biden bragging about them.

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Speaker 4: Why should people here believe that you will succeed at

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Speaker 8: Succeeded in creating jobs, and I've never failed. I've created

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Speaker 8: over fifteen million jobs. This isn't the president fifteen million

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Speaker 1: So where do these jobs numbers come from? You don't

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Speaker 1: it's because it is. Oh, don't get wrong. There have

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Speaker 2: What does it look like? When's it gonna get here? Congratulations,

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Speaker 1: This is what it looks like, the slow, steady degradation

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Speaker 1: I don't want to distract your congressman from the anti

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Speaker 2: Maybe we keep the big issues, the big issues.

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Speaker 1: No, all that may have made you uncomfortable, but I

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Speaker 1: next to all kinds of lawfare issues we need updated

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Speaker 1: on and he will do that as he always does.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to Josh Hammer.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about coffee. Well, patriotism and coffee. We have

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Speaker 1: to put our money where our morals are. You do,

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Speaker 1: I'm out on that.

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Speaker 1: I try to be better, and I am better than

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting in line at that drive through for your coffee.

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Speaker 1: Get Blackout Coffee delivered to you. The company that loves

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Speaker 2: They brag about it.

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Speaker 1: They also have the best coffee I've ever tasted in

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Speaker 1: Twenty percent off Blackoutcoffee dot com slash Jessee twenty percent

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Speaker 2: We'll be bad. You know.

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Speaker 1: I have a confession to make before I bring in

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Speaker 1: my buddy Josh Hammer.

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Speaker 2: Bob Menendez shouldn't even admit this. It makes me.

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Speaker 1: Laugh and I kind of like him, and that let

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Speaker 1: me explain why he's the ultimate New Jersey politician.

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Speaker 2: They're all like this, Like half.

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Speaker 1: The New Jersey politicians are still in state prison to

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Speaker 1: this day. Why is anyone even surprised Bob Menendez got

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Speaker 2: That whole thing? And he somehow got out of that.

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Speaker 9: Scut free, And then recently it's just the most New

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Speaker 2: It's just the most New.

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Speaker 1: And he's still part of the Senate. He doesn't appear

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Speaker 1: It looks like he's gonna go to prison like everyone else.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe I don't know to ask Josh about it.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now, my buddy Josh Hammer, Host of America

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Speaker 1: on Trial with Josh Hammer. Josh, what's going on with

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Speaker 10: You know, Jesse, I want to return to this, but

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Speaker 10: I want to start off on a related topic that

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Speaker 10: I will relate to Bob Menendez. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 10: you've ever been to this really fun sports bar in

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Speaker 10: It's literally the only state that gets that treatment. And

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Speaker 10: This is the home of Tony Soprano. I mean that

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Speaker 3: If I were a betting man.

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Speaker 10: I think it's probably more likely than not that Bob

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Speaker 10: appears to be caught ridiculously red handed here, Jesse, I

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Speaker 10: guess not red handed. Maybe gold handed would be the

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Speaker 3: Look, the guy is.

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Speaker 10: The guy is certainly not lacking in HUTSPA. I mean,

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna stay in Congress.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like the whole thing.

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Speaker 10: It's really out of like a late night parody skid

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Speaker 1: Okay, why is he still in the Senate, Josh? Does

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, the interesting thing is Jesse he's not

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so a similar story here appears to be direct bribery,

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Speaker 10: It's a very complicated place. I actually was in Armenia

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Speaker 10: Bob Menendez, because Jesse, as you and I know, you know,

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Speaker 10: there's one rule of ethics for Republicans and there's an

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Speaker 10: entirely different rule for Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Uh ser Byjean, Okay, let's you know what. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: shift gears, Josh, because we have so much to get to.

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Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels testified in the Trump trial last week. Michael

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Speaker 1: Cohen testified today. What's going on with this Trump trial?

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Speaker 2: In New York.

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Speaker 10: So it's funny because the prosecution has teased Michael Cohen

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Speaker 10: as their star witness for further essentially over a year.

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Speaker 10: I mean really ever since Alvin Bragg first dropped this

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Speaker 10: indictment over a year ago, now in late March early

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Speaker 10: April twenty twenty three. I mean, it's probably worth reviewing,

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Speaker 10: just briefly, who Michael Cohen is. Michael Cohen is a

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Speaker 10: convicted felon, someone who has admitted to lying repeatedly, as

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Speaker 10: recently as twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, and in interviews with

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Speaker 10: The New York Times, he said, oh, the Trump organization,

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Speaker 10: don Trump himself. They didn't reimburse me for the so

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Speaker 10: called hush money payments. I did it myself. Now he's

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Speaker 10: apparently doing a one hundred and eighty degree turn again.

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Speaker 10: This guy has literally been convicted of a felony for

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Speaker 10: committing perjury and lying to Congress, lying to federal investigators,

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Speaker 10: and this is their so called star witness in this case.

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Speaker 10: But just to make an actual black letter legal point here,

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Speaker 10: even if everything that Michael Cohen now is saying is

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Speaker 10: true and that he was lying five or six years ago,

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Speaker 10: even if all of that is true, this case still

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Speaker 10: doesn't hold up because in order to actually prove a

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Speaker 10: federal campaign finance violation under federal election law, you have

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Speaker 10: to prove that the money in question was solely, exclusively

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Speaker 10: and unambiguously for the purpose of helping that candidates get

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Speaker 10: across the finish line. But you have to basically prove,

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Speaker 10: beyond a reasonable doubt that's a criminal threshold, that there

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Speaker 10: was no other possible motive in the world. So, put

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Speaker 10: another way, if Trump's lawyers can show that he cared

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Speaker 10: at all about protecting his son, Baron Baron Trump from

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Speaker 10: the embarrassment of this whole story, if Trump's lawyers can

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Speaker 10: show that Trump himself cared at all about protecting his

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Speaker 10: marriage and shielding millennia, if they can show any of that,

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Speaker 10: then the prosecution's case failed.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think that this is going to go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 10: It's good for headlines, it's good for Alvin Bragg's political career.

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Speaker 10: This is how you advance up the Democratic Party ladder

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Speaker 10: in New York State. You bring these ridiculous charges, but

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Speaker 10: legally speaking, it's completely mirrorless, and all Trump needs is

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Speaker 10: one juror to go wobbly, and then he's off.

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Speaker 3: He's off plug at that.

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Speaker 1: Point, Okay, where's he going to find that juror in

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Speaker 1: Lower Manhattan?

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Speaker 10: So admittedly, a I think it's basically a coin flip.

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Speaker 10: I think at this point it's close to a coin

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Speaker 10: flip as to whether as to whether he's convicted or

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Speaker 10: a quick year.

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Speaker 3: You only need one. Now Here is what I say.

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Speaker 10: If you go back and you look at it at

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Speaker 10: the bios, the biographies of the twelve jurors, I recall

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Speaker 10: her being one juror who dabbled in truth Social, said

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Speaker 10: that she got some news from truth Social was on

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Speaker 10: the New York Post op ed page. Sometimes you might

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Speaker 10: find it there Ternatively what I have said, And admittedly

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Speaker 10: I don't fully believe this, but it's at least some

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Speaker 10: cost for optimism. Two of the twelve jurors are lawyers.

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Speaker 10: One's a corporate lawyer, one's a civil litigator. Now again,

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Speaker 10: they're lawyers in New York City. So if that's your

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Speaker 10: only variable, if that's your only data point, then you

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Speaker 10: assume without other data, that they're probably liberal. However, Jesse,

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Speaker 10: this case is so glaringly flawed from a black letter

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Speaker 10: legal perspective, there are statute of limitation issues.

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Speaker 3: There's a structural reason why it's flawed.

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Speaker 10: And so far as Alvin Bragg is a local dishit

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Speaker 10: attorney ultimately bring federal charges dubious a best whether he

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Speaker 10: even has that ability to do that in the first place.

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Speaker 10: So it's flawed for so many reasons that any lawyer

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Speaker 10: who went to law school back in that first year

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Speaker 10: when you learn the law, should be asking some glaring questions.

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Speaker 10: So what I've been saying on America on Trial, my

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Speaker 10: daily podcast with the first is that for a juror

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Speaker 10: who is a lawyer, they might be asking some very

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Speaker 10: basic questions to the prosecution, and all you need is

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Speaker 10: one of them to go wobbly and then Trump gets off.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's Rich Gears again to Hunter Biden. Got

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Speaker 1: some news last week about the federal charges he's facing.

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Speaker 2: Is Hunter Biden going to the clink?

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Speaker 10: So too early to say, But what I can tell

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Speaker 10: you is that I can be even more definitive than

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Speaker 10: Bob Menendez and say that Hunter Biden is beyond guilty

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Speaker 10: based on the evidence that I have seen and based

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Speaker 10: on the statues that he has been charged with. Here,

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Speaker 10: I mean how do I know that Hunter Biden is

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Speaker 10: guilty of purchasing and transporting in interstate commerce a firearm

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Speaker 10: while being an unlawful user of narcotics? How do I

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Speaker 10: know that, Jesse, because Hunter Biden told the world that

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Speaker 10: he literally put that in his memoir. I mean, I

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Speaker 10: don't know who the heck thought that was a good idea,

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Speaker 10: whether it was an editor or a publicist or an agent.

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Speaker 10: He probably should have had a lawyer telling him you

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Speaker 10: probably shouldn't do this. But I mean, the evidence is

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Speaker 10: right there for everyone to see. They found the revolver

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Speaker 10: the pistol last year. I think it had some cocaine residue,

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Speaker 10: want and have memory serves. I think he's dead to

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Speaker 10: rights honestly. Now again, this is going to be a

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Speaker 10: test for our justice system. Is Biden actually going to

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Speaker 10: face a clear trial that I don't know the answer to.

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Speaker 3: I really don't.

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Speaker 10: I'm hardened by the fact that that the special Counsel

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Speaker 10: David Weiss was ultimately able to bring these charges in

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Speaker 10: the first place. I'm harder by the fact that Merrick

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Speaker 10: Garland ultimately did not tell him to shush, shush, go away,

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Speaker 10: don't bring anything. But you never know I mean, there

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Speaker 10: might be some surreptitious, sneaky, sneaky stuff going on behind

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Speaker 10: the scenes here, but based on the actual conduct and

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Speaker 10: the statutes, he really does appear to eviolate the statutes.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Hunter Biden, what a gym he is?

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Speaker 1: America on trial with Josh Hammer. Go download it every day, Josh,

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Speaker 1: my brother, thank you as always, all right, give culture

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Speaker 1: war stuff next. I see a little pept up again today.

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Speaker 1: You know why I'm so pepped up. It's because I

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Speaker 1: keep sleeping for like nine ten hours a night, solid,

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Speaker 1: not getting up.

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Speaker 2: I don't even wake up to roll over. Why, Who

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Speaker 2: have you heard a dream? Powder?

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Speaker 1: The stuff's amazing. Beam is the name of the company.

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Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, there's all kinds of things out

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Speaker 1: there to sleep. Now you take this to sleep, take

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Speaker 1: that to sleep, and every one of them that I've

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Speaker 1: ever taken. I wake up and I'm half dead, and

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Speaker 1: I'm half dead the rest of the day. I don't

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Speaker 1: feel refreshed. I don't feel good. Beam's got all this natural.

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Speaker 1: It's just all natural magnesium things like that.

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Speaker 2: Pour it in a little thing of milk, warm it up.

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Speaker 1: It's a cinnamon hot chocolate essentially that I sip on

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Speaker 1: before bed, and you just kind of drift off to

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Speaker 1: the best sleep ever. But you don't wake up feeling

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Speaker 1: half dead and groggy, one eye closed.

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Speaker 2: You wake up ready to go. You want sleep like that, go.

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Speaker 1: To Shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly and get yourself

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Speaker 1: some dream powder forty off Shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back.

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Speaker 1: Well, these culture war battles end up in the courts

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Speaker 1: most of the time, and a lot of the big

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Speaker 1: ones that are out there right now, they're getting to the.

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Speaker 2: Big boy court, all the way to the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not a lawyer, and I don't know anything

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Speaker 2: about all this legal stuff.

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Speaker 1: So we have to talk to Sarah about it, because

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Speaker 1: she's going to get us educated. Joining me now, Sarah

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Speaker 1: Marshall Perry, Senior legal Fellow at the Great Heritage Foundation,

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Speaker 1: of course, former Senior Council US Department of Education. Okay, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: what's going to the Supreme Court and what do we

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Speaker 1: think about it?

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Speaker 11: Well, we've actually got seven cases right now, seven federal

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Speaker 11: cases and an eighth about to be filed that are

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Speaker 11: challenging the Biden administration's vast rewrite of a fifty two

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Speaker 11: year old civil rights law that protects equality and education.

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Speaker 2: Between the sexes.

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Speaker 3: Title nine.

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Speaker 11: Now everyone thinks of Title nine as being the college

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Speaker 11: sports rule, but in fact sports weren't added to Title

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Speaker 11: nine's provisions until later, three years after it's a option.

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Speaker 3: But what we've.

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Speaker 11: Seen is essentially a blowback or revolt in largely Republican

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Speaker 11: led states of really epic proportions. I think this administration

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Speaker 11: has overestimated that expanding the definition of sex, which has

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Speaker 11: always been understood in federal law to mean male and female,

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Speaker 11: to include gender identity naturally puts transgender identified males up

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Speaker 11: against biological females, not only in bathrooms, locker rooms, dorm rooms,

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Speaker 11: and housing accommodations, but perhaps most critically, in sports. And

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Speaker 11: the Biden administration has told America that sports are not

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Speaker 11: included in this rule, but the plain text of the

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Speaker 11: rule mentioning athletics and extracurricular activities, indicates distinctly otherwise, so

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Speaker 11: we know that sports are for all intents and purposes

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Speaker 11: on the chopping block as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Given the makeup of the Supreme Court, this seems like

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Speaker 1: it's one that would obviously go our way to an

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Speaker 1: untrained eye like myself, but you have the trained eye.

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Speaker 2: Are we worried about how they're going to roll on this?

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Speaker 3: I'm really not.

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Speaker 11: And here's why I think, regardless of whether or not,

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Speaker 11: we look distinctly at the term sex. And of course,

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Speaker 11: we have one of the justices Katanji Jackson Brown, who

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Speaker 11: herself said she didn't know in her Senate confirmation testimony

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Speaker 11: whether or not she could identify what a woman was

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Speaker 11: because she was quote not a doctor, which I find

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Speaker 11: a little bit fallacious.

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Speaker 3: But nevertheless, what.

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Speaker 11: This particular Supreme Court has been concerned with is an

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Speaker 11: overreach on the part of the executive administration. Remember that

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Speaker 11: the Biden administration has already had its ears pinned back

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Speaker 11: on quite a number of decisions in which it's taken

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Speaker 11: purported federal authority under one statute and expanded it to

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Speaker 11: be able to shoehorn through its own particular pet policy agendas.

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Speaker 11: For example, I give you West Virginia versus EPA, in

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Speaker 11: which the Supreme Court said you cannot use the Clean

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Speaker 11: Air Act to force millions of dollars in carbon emissions

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Speaker 11: taps on top of every corporation in America. They struck

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Speaker 11: down the CDC's a fiction moratorium during the COVID pandemic.

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Speaker 11: They did the same for the national OSHA vaccine mandate.

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Speaker 11: So this is a particular Supreme Court that does not

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Speaker 11: like it when the federal government takes more power to

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Speaker 11: itself than the underlying statute permits. And to redefine the

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Speaker 11: definition of sex in a fifty two year old federal.

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Speaker 3: Civil rights statute that, by.

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Speaker 11: The way, was amended twice, at which point they could

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Speaker 11: have expanded the definition of sex to include gender identity.

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Speaker 11: But to skirt the boundaries of congressional amendment and basically

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Speaker 11: take from thin air definition of sex that's never been

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Speaker 11: supported in a reading of this statute is really beyond

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Speaker 11: the pale and something I believe these particular justices are

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Speaker 11: going to be very concerned.

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Speaker 2: With Sarah on a macro level.

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Speaker 1: I remember we used to talk about Obama doing this

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Speaker 1: exact same thing. He would just assert all this executive

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Speaker 1: authority orders here, orders, their orders there, and then the

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Speaker 1: courts would of course shoot down ninety percent of his stuff,

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Speaker 1: but not one hundred percent of his stuff.

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Speaker 2: So in the end, the ball does move left. Are

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Speaker 2: we seeing the same thing with Biden?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 11: And I'll tell you why, because Biden has followed the

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Speaker 11: procedural letter of the law by following something called the

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Speaker 11: Administrative Procedure Act. In other words, they've gone through a

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Speaker 11: process called rulemaking, and that is a process by which

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Speaker 11: any executive agency in the federal government makes a new

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Speaker 11: interpretation of one of its purportedly ambiguous provisions in federal law,

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Speaker 11: and of course, in this particular instance, under the definition

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Speaker 11: of sex as it has always been understood in federal

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Speaker 11: civil rights law. They've gone through the process of soliciting

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Speaker 11: comments from the public, and in fact, we're inundated with

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Speaker 11: nearly two hundred and forty thousand public comments, which is

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Speaker 11: more than any other federal rulemaking has ever received in

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Speaker 11: the history of agency rulemaking. So they've gone through the

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Speaker 11: motions of actually making this particular interpretation look like it

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Speaker 11: passes legal muster by making sure they went through notice

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Speaker 11: and comment, making sure that they issued fifteen hundred pages

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Speaker 11: of regulatory explanation. But regardless, in the end, this Supreme

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Speaker 11: Court is going to be I believe, distinctly skeptical of

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Speaker 11: these particularly aggressive approaches.

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Speaker 1: Sarah, you mentioned earlier to wrap this up here, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the red states have been particularly aggressive with this administration.

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Speaker 1: Are you seeing this ramp up as just kind of

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Speaker 1: a general rule for the Red States? What I'm essentially

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Speaker 1: asking Sarah, and hoping to be honest with you. Are

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Speaker 1: Red States starting to join together and push back harder

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Speaker 1: and more than they ever have against all the craziness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 11: And particularly as concerns this particular rulemaking, we know that

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Speaker 11: these state superintendents of schools and the state governors and

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Speaker 11: even the local education associations have really had enough of

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Speaker 11: these sexual politics that's been coming down from the Department

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Speaker 11: of Education. We're seeing essentially the queering of American classrooms,

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Speaker 11: and it's orchestrated at the top levels by this.

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Speaker 3: Department of Education.

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Speaker 11: Remember, we have federal agencies in other offices who are

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Speaker 11: telling us that gender quote affirming care is life saving,

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Speaker 11: says the man in the dress who's in the number

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Speaker 11: two slot at the Department of Health and Human Services.

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Speaker 11: We've seen the exact same thing from Miguel Cardona, Secretary

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Speaker 11: of Education, come coming down from the Department of Education.

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Speaker 11: This is the way that they shoehorn a hard left

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Speaker 11: sexual politic through the entire body of American education. And

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Speaker 11: so I think what we're seeing now is the exhibition

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Speaker 11: of character and courage on a lot of the governor's

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Speaker 11: parts and a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of these state superintendents of school parts.

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Speaker 11: We've already seen Oklahoma, Texas, and Florida come out all

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Speaker 11: of their governors say we will not abide by this

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Speaker 11: federal law. We've seen no fewer than seventeen superintendents of

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Speaker 11: schools banded together and submit letters to the Department of

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Speaker 11: Education saying we are not going to comply with this.

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Speaker 11: Whether or not you hold our federal funding hostage doesn't matter,

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Speaker 11: as long as we have the opportunity to protect girls

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Speaker 11: and women in education. And that is I think, not

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Speaker 11: only gratifying. I'm hoping it's the kind of courage that

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Speaker 11: is contagious and we see more of that in the future.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fingers crossed for that, Sarah. That was outstanding. Please

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Speaker 1: come back and join us stand in time. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I feel so much smarter now.

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Speaker 1: Before we go, we have other things to do. We

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Speaker 1: have to get involved in a primary. The general election

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Speaker 1: you skip or you participate in, I'm sorry, is less

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Speaker 1: important than the primary you skipped. Primaries matter more than

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Speaker 1: general elections. We're going to get involved in one next.

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Speaker 1: Before we do that, we're going to get involved in

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Speaker 1: your time share. No, I don't want to stay at

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Speaker 1: your time share. Thank you, I appreciate it, but I

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Speaker 1: just want you to get out of it.

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Speaker 2: I know you want out.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's trying to cut costs right now, especially because the

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Speaker 1: annual fees of doubled special assessments. You can't even get

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Speaker 1: in the stupid thing anymore, and everyone wants out of them.

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Speaker 2: Well, lone Star Transfer will get you out.

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Speaker 1: The time share company is not going to let you out.

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Speaker 1: They'll lie, they'll tell you you're in it for life.

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Speaker 1: But lone Star Transfer is the family business, the family

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Speaker 1: business with an A plus rating from the Better Business

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Speaker 1: Bureau that gets people legally impermanently.

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Speaker 2: Out ninety nine of the time.

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Speaker 1: Sound good, call them, just call them eight four four

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Speaker 1: three one zero two six four six.

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Speaker 2: They're wonderful people. They'll get you out, all right, we'll

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Speaker 2: be back.

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Speaker 1: The general election you attend, you vote in, is less

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Speaker 1: important than the primary. You skip twenty five percent Republican

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Speaker 1: participation in primaries nationally as an embarrassment and a disgrace,

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Speaker 1: And until that number changes, we will not save the

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Speaker 1: United States of America.

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Speaker 2: So, Jossie, what do I do?

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Speaker 1: Well, here's when you can get involved in Bacon out

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Speaker 1: of Nebraska. He is a Republican congressman, one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest turds in Congress, routinely screws over you and your values.

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Speaker 1: And there's a solid human being running against him. You

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Speaker 1: want to hear from this guy, Dan Frye joins us

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Speaker 1: now running agains. It's the famous, infamous Don Bacon. You

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Speaker 1: know his name if you watch this show. All right, Dan,

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Speaker 1: why are you running against that piece of trash?

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Speaker 6: Well, Jesse, I don't know what else I can add

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Speaker 6: to that. You summed it up pretty well right there,

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Speaker 6: and I could not agree more that the primary that

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Speaker 6: you skip is far more important than the general election

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Speaker 6: that you'll ever vote in. The primary is where we

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Speaker 6: start to take out this garbage. It's where we start

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Speaker 6: to get things, where we've actually got some alternatives that

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Speaker 6: are going to make a difference in DC. And if

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Speaker 6: we don't fix it at the primary, then you might

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Speaker 6: as well just accept the fact that you're going to

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Speaker 6: get two more years or six more years of the

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Speaker 6: same junk that we've been getting for decades now, Dan, why.

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Speaker 1: Do people like don get elected in places like Nebraska?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not pointing any fingers at Nebraska. My state

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Speaker 1: of Texas is famous for this. South Carolina, the Dakota

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Speaker 1: is these red states, these beat and Potato states, America

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Speaker 1: type states. They picked the biggest losers to send to

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Speaker 1: Congress in the Senate. And I don't understand it. How

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Speaker 1: did this guy wheezle his way through the Nebraska primary

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Speaker 1: and into the Congress.

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Speaker 6: Well, what you have to understand is that when Congressman

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Speaker 6: Bacon first got to Nebraska, he ran as an individual

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Speaker 6: that was going to go and he was going to

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Speaker 6: cut spending. He was going to cut the debt and

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Speaker 6: the deficit. He was going to get the border under

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Speaker 6: control of all of those things were a part.

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Speaker 2: Of this platform. He's delivered on none of it.

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Speaker 6: But the problem that we've got is that once they're elected,

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Speaker 6: they become entrenched. They have the money necessary to control

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Speaker 6: the narrative. So it's hard to get rid of them

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Speaker 6: once you realized what you've put into office. So again,

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Speaker 6: when that happens, it becomes even more imperative that you've

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Speaker 6: got to get involved in this primary election you've got

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Speaker 6: to listen to what's actually taken place. But they end

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Speaker 6: up with a war chest going into a primary once

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Speaker 6: they're elected, and that's hard to overcome. That's hard to beat.

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Speaker 2: You running. What got you all fired up and into

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Speaker 2: this thing?

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Speaker 6: Well, here's the reality of what's gotten this to where

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Speaker 6: we're at today. I did this ten years ago, back

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Speaker 6: when the Tea Party was alive and well, and we

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Speaker 6: had a very similar congressman at the time, and his

797
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Speaker 6: name was Lee Terry, and Lee Terry had been there

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Speaker 6: for eight terms, sixteen years, and the people of Nebraska

799
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Speaker 6: were just tired. They were tired of Lee taking his

800
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Speaker 6: marching orders from what was at that point in time,

801
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Speaker 6: John Bayner and Lee Lee stopped listening to his constituents.

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Speaker 6: We were still feeling the after effects of bailing out

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Speaker 6: the auto industry, We were still feeling the after effects of.

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Speaker 2: Bailing out the banks.

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Speaker 6: The government had just taken over the healthcare industry, and

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Speaker 6: it was uncertain, It was unclear as to what kind

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Speaker 6: of healthcare were we going to have. Where we're going

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Speaker 6: to repeal this, where we're going to replace Obamacare, what

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Speaker 6: was happening with it and Jesse at the time we

810
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Speaker 6: had tens of thousands of people a year crossing our

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Speaker 6: border and nobody was doing anything about it. They were

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Speaker 6: crossing the border illegally, and we were seventeen trillion dollars

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Speaker 6: in debt. I had two grandchildren and one on the

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Speaker 6: way at the time, and at that point in time

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Speaker 6: I looked at this and said this isn't sustainable. We

816
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Speaker 6: can't continue down this path.

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Speaker 2: So I ran for office.

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Speaker 6: And what was interesting is we had a very similar

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Speaker 6: situation to what we've got right now. We were at

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Speaker 6: spent twenty to one. We felt two point nine percent

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Speaker 6: short of flipping the vote because once we got to

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Speaker 6: the constituents, once we got to the voters, they were upset,

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Speaker 6: they were ready for a change, and we again.

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Speaker 2: That race right there.

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Speaker 6: There was only one other race in that election cycle

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Speaker 6: that was any closer.

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Speaker 2: You may remember it.

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Speaker 6: It was when Dave Bratt beat Eric Canter, the sitting

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Speaker 6: speaker for the Republicans.

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Speaker 2: It was a great night.

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Speaker 6: And again, being out spent twenty to one, we felt

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Speaker 6: two point nine percent short.

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Speaker 2: So it can be done.

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Speaker 6: You've got to get out there and you've got to

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Speaker 6: get going. And you asked what made me get involved

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Speaker 6: in this race. If you look at what motivated me

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Speaker 6: ten years ago and where we're at today, every one

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Speaker 6: of those metrics are are far worse today than they

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Speaker 6: were ten years ago. And at that time I had

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Speaker 6: two grandchildren and one on the way. I've now got ten.

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Speaker 6: So I think it's worthy of sounding the alarm that says, folks,

842
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Speaker 6: we're headed for a fiscal cliff like we've never seen before.

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Speaker 6: If we don't fix it soon, it's not going to

844
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Speaker 6: be recoverable. We've got a full blown border invasion on

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Speaker 6: our southern border and no one's doing anything about it.

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Speaker 6: And I'm tired of listening to the Republican Party say

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Speaker 6: you need a new president. We need to get a

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Speaker 6: new president. No, you don't take the constitutional authority and

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Speaker 6: powers that you've got in the power of the purse

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Speaker 6: and fix this mess. If you've got a if you've

851
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Speaker 6: got a president that doesn't want to cooperate with you,

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Speaker 6: you have control of the purse. You control what happens.

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Speaker 6: It was it was Justice Scalia that it said the

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Speaker 6: House is the most powerful brand of the government because

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Speaker 6: they control the purse strings.

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Speaker 2: So if you.

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Speaker 6: Don't like what's happening, stop funding it. But we don't

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Speaker 6: have anybody in the House, at least not from Nebraska

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Speaker 6: that's got the courage to lead. So it's time that

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Speaker 6: we send individuals to DC that will actually do something

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Speaker 6: rather than to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: So that website, so people go support you. What's your website.

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Speaker 6: It's Fry the number four Nebraska dot com. It's f

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Speaker 6: r Ei the number four Nebraska dot com. Here's where

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Speaker 6: we're at. We love where we're at right now. We've

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Speaker 6: got a ground game that is second to nine. I've

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Speaker 6: never seen so many volunteers in a campaign. We're touching

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Speaker 6: tens of thousands of doors in this campaign. We're going

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Speaker 6: to be outspent, but we're not going to be outworked.

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Speaker 6: We like where we're at. We believe that Don Bacon

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Speaker 6: has served his last term in office, so you know,

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Speaker 6: we're feeling pretty good about where we're at.

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Speaker 1: I love this freaking guy, Fry for Nebraska dot com.

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Speaker 1: The election is tomorrow, Dan, I will be watching the

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Speaker 1: results roll in with baited breath, probably not as nervous

876
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: as you and your family. Fingers crossed prayers for you

877
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: and yours. My friend, go get him, go freaking get him.

878
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about get involved, lighten the mood.

879
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: Next. All right, it's time to lighten the mood.

880
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: And nothing lightens my mood than some good old fashioned

881
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: defiance of ridiculous government rules. So guy in California gets

882
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: a boat. These dirty comedies don't let him he's not

883
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: allowed to park his boat in the driveway and tell

884
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: him he's.

885
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 2: Got to have it fenced in. He's got a fence

886
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: in his boat.

887
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: So in one of the all time spie moves, I

888
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: just love this. The dude he puts his boat in

889
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: his driveway and he puts up fence like he's required

890
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: to do.

891
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: And as you see right there, he hates it. Well,

892
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: what the picture shows you, You go, buddy, live free

893
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: or die. All right, I'll see them all mm hmmmmmm

894
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Speaker 2: m m hm