1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome Inside with the Insiders, a Monday podcast edition alongside 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: Ian Rapaport, I'm Tom Pelaicero. For those of you who 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: are loyal viewers of The Insiders Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: on NFL Network, Monday show a little bit different. It's 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: in this case it's me and Ian. We're a little 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: more casual. We are approaching this slightly differently, but we're 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: still giving you all the news, all the inside talking 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: about all the games from Sunday in the NFL. If 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: you are tuning to the podcast, it's in two parts. 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube the NFL channel, just stay tuned. 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: We had everything you need right here. Let's start out 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: Ian with some injury updates, including in Atlanta, where you've 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: seen over the last five weeks. Here this move for 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: the season, move from promising to Oho to yesterday, it 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: seemed like bordering on disaster, not just with the fifth 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: straight loss, not getting swept by the Pain, but also 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: injuries to both their quarterback Michael Pennix Junior the wide 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: receiver Drake London. Tell me the latest on those injuries. 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: Starting out with Pennix, who we are not going to 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: see again. For a while here. 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: So first of all, in the Michael Pennock situation, we 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: knew last night it was not good anytime you have 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: a reaggravation of their previous injury. As we learned with 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: Rock Purdy, that term generally means you're out as long 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: or probably longer. 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: This time it's going to be longer. Michael Pennick was 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: placed on injured reserve. 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: He has out the next four games, which means he 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: is out till at least in mid December. We are 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 3: also getting to the time of year when basically every 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: injury that knocks you out for a while is either 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: out for the season or back for the playoffs. The 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: Eagles have one that's back for the playoffs. We'll talk 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: about that in a second, but this seems to be 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: one where for the Atlanta Falcons, out for the next 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: four weeks could mean out for the rest of the season. 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 3: So it is a aggravation of the bone bruise and knee sprain. 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: There is also damage to the ACL. Now, when every 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: year there's like one or maybe two ACL sprains, it's 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: very rare, but they do exist, and so if you 42 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: have an ACL sprain, which is basically a partial tear. 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: It is a partial tear. Just to clarify any it 44 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 1: is a partial taar. Yes, that's the same thing. 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: That's the same thing. But sometimes you can rehab, but 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: most of the time, eventually a full reconstruction is needed. 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: And that's why when the Falcons say they're doing more 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 3: tests on Michael Pennix, those are the tests. 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: They know he's going to miss four games. 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: They don't know if it's going to be full reconstructive 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: knee surgery, which would be his third, the first on 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: this knee, but his third overall. So Kirk Cousins, who's 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: making twenty seven million dollars this year to be a 54 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: backup quarterback that is coming in really looked pretty bad. 55 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: He now has to save their season. He has to 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 3: do it without Drake London. London is out this big 57 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: with the PCL sprain. My understanding is that he could 58 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: miss additional weeks as well. These are bad injuries, and 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: I'm not saying this one in particulars bad. I'm just 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: saying every receiver has had one, from Puka Nakua, Ricky pearsall, 61 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: there's been several of them. They all come back at 62 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: a much longer time frame than initially anticipated. So if 63 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: you're a Falcons fan and you're listening to this right now, 64 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 3: it's all bad. 65 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: It's all bad. 66 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: And this is, you know, within the broader picture here, 67 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: it creates or adds to a variety of different questions 68 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: about the Falcons into twenty twenty six. Again, this was 69 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: very much treated as a we are in to be 70 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: a playoff team in twenty twenty five. Fell short last year, 71 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: but this is where you're taking a stride forward, and 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: every move they made to fortify, whether it was with veterans, 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: whether it was in the draft, creating next year's first 74 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: round pick to the Rams to get a second pass 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: rusher in James Pierce after taking Jalen Walker already in 76 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: the first round. Now, all of a sudden, that pick 77 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: what you were thinking, we're gonna make the playoffs, it's 78 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: gonna be in the twenties. That could be a top 79 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: ten pick, that would be potentially ammunition to get a 80 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: quarterback for one of your other major needs. And when 81 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: it comes to the quarterback position, nav a guy and Michael 82 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: Pennick Junior, who, as you said ian had torn his 83 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: right acl retore it in college, had actually been healthy 84 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: for several years now a left knee injury that potentially 85 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: could involve a full reconstruction as well. It does create 86 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: and again add to the questions already existed of with 87 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: all the resources they put in the quarterback position, do 88 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: they have a quarterback in Atlanta? Because if Kirk Cousins 89 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: at this point, let's say, even if Kirk plays well 90 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: down the stretch here, he's due another I believe forty 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: million next year. Only ten million is guaranteed. It's hard 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: to imagine never say never, because they kept him this 93 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: year when everyone thought they were going to cut him 94 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: or trade him. But it's hard to imagine you're bringing 95 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: him back once again. And then in terms of Michael Pennix, 96 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: he's potentially looking at a lengthy rehab, missing time into 97 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: next off season. And you also have to go a 98 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: guy who's in a history of knee injuries now has 99 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: another one. It just it creates so many different layers 100 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: to this. Obviously, there will be fair questions raised about 101 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: the organizational direction and who is guiding this team into 102 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. And I would also add this as well, 103 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: when you talk about the partial ACL tear, there is 104 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: a history of players trying to rehab that it doesn't 105 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: often end well. The most notable example I can remember 106 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: for a quarterback in recent years was Ryan Tannehill partially 107 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: toward his ACL. I think it was in twenty seventeen. 108 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: Came back because the j Cutler year, laz here, Yeah, 109 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: you would have been twenty when. 110 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 2: You turned Jake Cutler into a dolphin. The best meme ever. 111 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: That one still pops up every now and then. 112 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: Jay Cutler is now a dolphin. 113 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: I said, the Jay Cutler has passed his physical and 114 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: is now officially a dolphin, which people sent me South 115 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: Park memes for a long period of time after that. 116 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: But Tannehill had torn his ACL in twenty sixteen, rehabbed. 117 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: It was a partial tear. He rehabbed it, told me, 118 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, sitting there on on the practice field an 119 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: NFL network with an interview, he was feeling great, and 120 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: like two days later he tore it the rest of 121 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: the way. So it's a matter of what There's a 122 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: lot of medical stuff here that you and I are 123 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: not the experts on here. But again, these are all 124 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: the broader questions surrounding the team that oh yeah, has 125 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: to make a decision on paying b. John Robinson. Has 126 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: Kyle pitts now potentially edit toward free agency? 127 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 4: Are you paying? 128 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: Crowds? 129 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: Missing the block on that led to Michael Pennock's being 130 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: injured did not help. 131 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna five five years of Kyle pitt you 132 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: get flashes and then but ever since his mcl injury, 133 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: which is another weird injury that there's just these are 134 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: the things like we talk about everything. It's like these 135 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: isolated news stories, but they all fit together. And right 136 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: now the Falcons are in the eye of the storm. 137 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: Mean yeah, and you know I would say, I would 138 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: say where they go from here? Like, look, it's been 139 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: a bad season, and even if Michael Pennix was injured today, 140 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Even if Michael Pennis was not injured today, 141 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: it's a long road ahead to get the Falcons back 142 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: to the playoffs. The bigger issue, and I do think 143 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: it's an issue, is like where do they go? 144 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: It's like who's leading them now? 145 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: I think Raheem Morris is okay, but there's questions in 146 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: a lot of places in the organization about the decisions 147 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: that were made, how the resources were allocated, where. 148 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: Do they go from here? 149 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: Evaluating your own roster, interestingly enough can be the one thing. 150 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: Let me say this, there's two ways where people in 151 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: charge can get in trouble. One is wasting the owner's money. 152 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: They hate that. 153 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: Two is misevaluating your own roster, in other words, thinking 154 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: you're closer than you are. And I think after the season, 155 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: the Falcons are gonna have to take a look at 156 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: things and be like, what did we miss and how 157 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: did it all end up this way? And I'm fascinated 158 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: to see where it goes from here. But you know, 159 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: if you're like our good old friend Andrew Gruver and 160 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: you love the Falcons, this has been a very, very 161 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: bad twenty four hours. 162 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Let's sell with some of the other injuries, including one 163 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: to Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, which as we reported last night, 164 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: and it does not sound like this is anything long 165 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: term for Aaron Rodgers. He does have he had x 166 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: rays at the stadium. He's got a small fracture in 167 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: his left wrist. Whether that requires some type of a 168 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: procedure or not, it's an injury that Rogers believes he 169 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: can play through. We have to find out now, do 170 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: the doctors believe that Aaron Rodgers can somehow pad it up, 171 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: protect it and play. You know, he's potentially in his 172 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: last run here. He's forty one years old. He doesn't 173 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: want to go, all right, I'm just going to take 174 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: a month off here. He wants to go, and this 175 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: might take We'll see what more we learn here in 176 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: the coming days and hours, but this might take the 177 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: week to find out exactly what the Steelers plan is 178 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: going to be. 179 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this always makes me nervous to say, 180 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: because news really does change. Like you say, like, oh, 181 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: this player has this and then he gets an MRI 182 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: or not, so you know that's right. No, I'm just 183 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 3: saying a shot, but knowing that this is being recorded. 184 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: Here is my sense right now, Aaron Rodgers has not 185 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 3: been ruled out for Sunday. He very much wants to play, 186 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: whether or not he needs surgery. 187 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: I don't know that he's going to get it now. 188 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: Anyway, Well, again, we will see, but I don't know 189 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: that he's going to get it. I think what he 190 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: wants to do is play and just go. I don't 191 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: really care about anything else. It's my last year. I'm 192 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: just going to go play. And I was told last 193 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: night that he's fifty to fifty for Sunday. I believe 194 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: that is the case, but either way, I don't believe 195 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: this is a long term thing. Anyway, he plays some 196 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: you know, shotgun. I don't know what the actual numbers are, 197 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: but it seems like a lot. You could do that 198 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: with a left hand that's injured. Josh Allen won the 199 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: MVP last year, did it with a broken left hand 200 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 3: for half of the season. 201 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: There is precedent. 202 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: So my guess right now is he's up in the 203 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: air for Sunday, but probably plays the following week. And 204 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: you know, backup quarterbacks have really struggled this year, they 205 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: really really have. Mason Ruff played pretty good Sunday, he 206 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: really did. And I don't know that this is a 207 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 3: bad thing at all for the Steelers. If Rogers doesn't 208 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: play Someday, I'm just not that Mason's better, But like 209 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: I think they'll be okay. 210 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: The Steelers went to the playoffs two years ago with 211 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph being the hot hand down the stretch. It 212 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: was the third different quarterback I believe that they had 213 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: played in that season start over Kenny Pickett was that 214 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: the year we started and stayed in the lineup into 215 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So we have seen Mason Rudolph play functional 216 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: football that defense right now, this is maybe the best 217 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: that they've played. You know, clearly there was a situation 218 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: that occurred yesterday in terms of Jalen Ramsey getting ejected 219 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: from the game. Videos showed that Jamar Chase spit on him. 220 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: We'll see that's the situation. They'll probably get resolved in 221 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: the hours between us recording this and actually having a 222 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: decision from the NFL. So let's not go too deep 223 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: into the weeds on that. But the point is the 224 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: Steelers defense has been playing pretty well. If they do that, 225 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a shot week in and week out 226 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: for a Steelers team that right now is still clinging 227 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: to that top spot in the AFC North. Speaking of 228 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: that division, Dylan Gabriel also lands in the concussion protocol. 229 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: On Sunday, Kevin Stefanski said he self reported symptoms at halftime. 230 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: That's why they went to Shador in the second half. 231 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: And if there was. 232 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: Any question ian about the remaining excitement level for people 233 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: who had not seen Shador on the field for a 234 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: couple of months, the frankly relative derangement of some people 235 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: with regard to why Shador had not played to this point, 236 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: but also the reaction, the crowd reaction to him coming 237 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: onto the field. This remains a cultural phenomenon. First time 238 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: out tough spot for any quarterback, much less a rookie. 239 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: Who know, quarterbacks who are backups at this stage get 240 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: regular reps. It's hard no matter what. It was an 241 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: ugly start and one that maybe we'll find out a 242 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: little bit more about Shador Sanders with an actual week 243 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: of work, if indeed Gabriel can't go this week. 244 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to really quickly go back to 245 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 3: the Steelers defense. You know, they have not been very 246 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: good this year, but it's amazing to me their pass 247 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: rushing depth. I mean, we went through a trade deadline 248 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 3: period where everyone in the world seemingly was looking for 249 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: pass rushers and nobody wanted to trade them except for 250 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: the Dolphins. The Steelers have a good deep crew of 251 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: pass rush depth and Wan Hank Smith her big herbig TJ. 252 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: I mean, it's there. That is what everybody wants, and 253 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: that is why you draft and spend capitol on those guys. Anyway, 254 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: Shador so yes, he got barely any first team reps 255 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: because backups almost no backups get first team reps. He 256 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: looks bad except in two minutes, when I thought he 257 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: looked okay. The throw in the end zone two Actually 258 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: there was two throws in the ends, and there was 259 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: the one he missed deep, and then there was the 260 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: one to the undrafted free agent whose name I forget. 261 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 2: That got broken out of Gage Larvadan. Yes, that one, 262 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: that one, and. 263 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: Uh so that's pretty good Tom, and so like I thought, 264 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: when things got some players, young players especially are better 265 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: in two minute because things are simplified. Defenses are going faster, 266 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: they can't call as much, and you know, things are 267 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: much simpler. 268 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: I wonder if the Browns end up going. 269 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: Faster to force that on Traue door so he could 270 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: just go out and be simple and make plays. 271 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to seeing it. I really. 272 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 3: I know that there's a big role eye roll from 273 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: a lot of people because there's been so much hype 274 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: for media. 275 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: I am fascinated. 276 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: This is as big a quarterback development story as we 277 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 3: are going to see. Because in the preseason, when he played, 278 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: he looked good. He played last weeks, he looked bad. 279 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: The expectations are through the roof. The ratings are going 280 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: to be crazy. It sucks that it's because of an injury, 281 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: but we are going to learn so much about Shrador 282 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: Sanders from just one game, and god forbid he plays well. 283 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: It is going to be insane. This is going to 284 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 2: be insane. 285 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: There's a lot of outcome based analysis, and a lot 286 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: of it is the binary basically, like you're with Shadoor 287 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: or you're not. He can play or he can It's 288 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: shades of gray. You're talking about a young quarterback. His 289 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: first time out, he was four of sixteen for forty 290 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: seven yards. He came in the game with a lead 291 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: and they lost. That is not a success by any stretch. 292 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: But also you're right, Teams run about seventy to eighty 293 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: plays in a regular season practice week. There are no 294 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: additional reps. Especially, yes, Dylan Gabriel got some reps when 295 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco was the starter, because Joe Flacco is a 296 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: million years old and he didn't need to take all 297 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: those reps. With Dylan Gabriel, you got to give him 298 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: those seventy to eighty snaps every week to get him ready. 299 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: There's not enough to also let's get let's get Shadoor ready. 300 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: If Dylan cannot practice this week, which the reason history 301 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: would suggest that that's probably going to be the case 302 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: that he'll probably miss a game in concussion protocol. That's 303 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: an actual week of workforce shudur, and we'll see what 304 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: it looks like in potentially his first NFL start. 305 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more on the inside. 306 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: Let's bring our friend Bridget Condon into the conversation because 307 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: she's based out there in LA. We had a massive 308 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: game in the NFC West yesterday and one that Sam 309 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: Donald would probably prefer to file away with another big 310 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: division road game last year Week eighteen against Detroit, Bridget, 311 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: this was not the best Sam Donald we've seen, although 312 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: Ernest Jones probably is watching this summer and has a 313 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: few choice words for me in that Listen what sound 314 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: it was a fantastic SoundBite from Ernest Jones. You can 315 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: you can google it. We can't show it to you 316 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: on here. Yes, I want someone to speak up on 317 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: might behalf like he did for Sam Darnald. They love 318 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: Sam Donald. This was not a good day against a 319 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: really really good Rams defense. But knowing those teams as 320 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: well as you do, Bridget, what did you take away 321 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: from the Rams getting that win over se. 322 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 5: Well, look, those were two of the best teams in 323 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: the NFL, arguably the two teams that we will see 324 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 5: in the NFC Championship game. Right, Like, both of these 325 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 5: teams somebody was going to have to lose. And in 326 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 5: talking with people pregame, specifically on the Seahawks sideline, they 327 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 5: all were praising Sam Donald. You know, of course this 328 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 5: was before the game, but people were saying that he's 329 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 5: the leader that they've needed in Seattle, and he's so 330 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 5: even keeled. That's the word I kept hearing pregame, and 331 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 5: then also listening to some of the guys speak postgame too, 332 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald as well. Just Sam Donald never really gets 333 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: too high, never gets too low. And yes, he had 334 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 5: a bad game against the Rams, and had a bad 335 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 5: game last year with the Vikings against the Rams. So 336 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 5: I don't know if the Rams have his number or what, 337 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 5: but those are two bad games. And if you throw 338 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 5: in the Detroit last year too, those are three bad games. 339 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: But Sam Donald has been bawling. 340 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 5: Okay, the stats that he's putting up, he's playing great, 341 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 5: and that's what people in Seattle were saying, like they 342 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 5: were kind of shocked that us in the media and 343 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 5: everybody else has been surprised at the Seahawks' success because 344 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 5: they're like, we got this guy from Minnesota who played 345 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 5: incredible last season. You put good guys around him, he's 346 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 5: going to continue to play really well, and that's what 347 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 5: they've seen. 348 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: I think it speaks more to the Rams defense. 349 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 5: And look, guys, that locker room was crazy yesterday after 350 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 5: the game. They were blasting the music as teams typically do, 351 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 5: but like full blast Stillwell, guys were at the podium 352 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 5: and I was like. 353 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: Okay, I was going to say, there must have been 354 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: something where someone could hear them. 355 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 4: Yes, one hundred percent. 356 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 5: Like the way that it works that so far is 357 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 5: you're in the room listening to the podium, and the 358 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 5: doors right here to the locker room. Like a lot 359 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 5: of times it's like a hallway between the locker room 360 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 5: and the podium. 361 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: It's literally right there. The music was still a lot. 362 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 5: I was like, okay, I'm ready to go in there, 363 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 5: like and talk to what those guys are doing. Jared 364 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 5: Verse also, have you guys ever talked to him because 365 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 5: ominal sound Oh yeah, okay. 366 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. 367 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 5: He told me that people were doing backflips in the 368 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 5: locker room after the win, which I mean, look now 369 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 5: they're in first place in their division, you should be 370 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 5: doing it. But also I just want to read you 371 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 5: this transcript because it was awesome. 372 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 4: He was like the whole thing. 373 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, people were doing backflips. I told everybody, put your 374 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 5: helmet back on. We're going to go out and run 375 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 5: another quarter man. It was a good time and it 376 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: was just great energy. And that is like the conversation 377 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 5: that I had with all the defensive players that I 378 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 5: talked to yesterday. 379 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 4: They're just having so much fun and you're seeing it. 380 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 5: We've talked about this Rams defense for now two three 381 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 5: years Byron Young, Jared Vers, Kobe Turner. 382 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 4: They were so young when they came into the league, 383 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: and it. 384 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 5: Feels like this season, it's not like something is drastically changed. 385 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 5: They're just a little bit more mature and a little 386 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 5: bit more experience, and you're seeing it. DeVante Adams said 387 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 5: it perfectly at the podium. He said, man, like, I 388 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 5: just love that we can play like crap on offense 389 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 5: and we still get a win. Sean McVeigh said, I'm 390 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 5: not going to apologize for how we won, and that's 391 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 5: how you have to do it, especially in November December. 392 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 5: It's not always going to look pretty. And that's the 393 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 5: biggest thing when we talk about Sam Donald, and I 394 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 5: don't want him to get so much flack as he's getting. 395 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 5: I know a lot of people love to talk badly 396 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 5: about Sam Darnold just because it's ingrained in our minds 397 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 5: how his start in the league was, right, like, it 398 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 5: just wasn't really good. He was with the Panthers, he 399 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 5: was with the Jets, and it just never really never 400 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 5: really worked out, and people remember that. But the thing 401 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 5: is he's a really good quarterback. Matthew Stafford didn't have 402 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 5: a great day yesterday, but nobody's talking about him. Why 403 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 5: because his defense bailed him out of that game. 404 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 4: The Seahawks almost won that game. 405 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 5: And would we have been talking about how bad Sam 406 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 5: Donald played if they were. 407 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: That's the whole thing we're talking about with this. Within 408 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: the frame of reference, it was, I mean, it was 409 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: in the general neighborhood. It was short and wide, right. 410 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, and also, well, you know the other part 411 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: of this is Mike McDonald ian. His defense has been 412 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: unbelievable and they gave Matthew Stafford a hard time. No, 413 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: he still had what two touchdowns and no interceptions. 414 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: He's on an unbelievable time for my fantasy. 415 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: But it's like if he had a play's defense like 416 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: that and Sam Darnold just has a little bit less 417 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: of a catastrophic day than it will be just fine. 418 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would say, you know one thing about Darnald. 419 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: I think you're right, Bridget, And it's like, this happens 420 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: in the NFL, and it happens for better or worse 421 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: and college. When I covered colleges, it was the same thing. 422 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 3: It's like if you were a five star recruit, everyone 423 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 3: always remembered that no matter what, and you got a 424 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 3: million chances. With Donald, it's like because he struggled early, 425 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 3: it's like everyone's sort of looking for him to falter. 426 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: Everyone's looking to find the clip where he's on the sideline. 427 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: It's like I'm seeing ghosts, you know, when he was 428 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: miked up and it caused the big thing. 429 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: And it's like six years ago. 430 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: That was six years ago, three teams ago, that was 431 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: many millions ago. And like I find myself one because 432 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 3: I like him and two because I think he's really good. 433 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 3: It's like I found myself generally annoyed by people waiting. 434 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: For him to turn back into a pumpkin. 435 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: It's like, and the Vikings also moved on from him, 436 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: now I know they that was a little bit of 437 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 3: a different philosophical reason. 438 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: They had JJ McCarthy building and all that how. 439 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: Much it was going to take to pay take and 440 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: the versus the commitment of what that would mean to 441 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy. But that's a sign, right and. 442 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 3: Also what that would mean like they wouldn't be able 443 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 3: to pay as much for defenders and offensive line, so 444 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: like that was a different thing. But still and it's like, 445 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: if this team goes deep into the playoffs, which it 446 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 3: certainly seems like it could, like he could have a 447 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 3: really cool season with a much better ending than he 448 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: did last. 449 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: So here's the question now, because the forty nine ers 450 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: could brock pretty back yesterday and it was the second 451 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: stray week where the Cardinals just just they're behind the 452 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: eight ball from go. But you see yesterday, why as 453 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: much as yes Mac Jones played well, Mac Jones is 454 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: probably better than one of the starting quarterbacks in the NFL. 455 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: But Brock Purty, the Kyle Shanahan bridget, is special and 456 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: when he talks about statistically, I mean, he's got the 457 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: highest passer rating, I believe of anybody depending on how 458 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: many career attempts you say is qualified. He got the 459 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: highest passer rating of anybody in NFL history. He's a 460 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: difference maker when he's on the field as much as 461 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers of all these moving parts, and defensively, 462 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: they're playing with the JV at best right now. Yeah, 463 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: they still look dangerous, especially because they've got a guy 464 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: in Kyle Shannon as well as Robert Solow or two 465 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: of the best in the business. 466 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Christian McCaffrey said it. 467 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 5: He was vintage Brock, like he went and missed six 468 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 5: games and then came back and had a performance like that. 469 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 5: Because this episode should be called reputation and not Taylor 470 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 5: Swift reputation. It's just we're talking about another quarterback who 471 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 5: has a reputation for not being a great quarterback because 472 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 5: he was the last player drafted right and people constantly 473 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 5: think that he isn't good. 474 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 4: In Mac Jones and whatever. 475 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 5: He came in and played insane like he just missed 476 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 5: six weeks and to go now against NFL players. Yes, 477 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: the Cardinals are not good, but they still have a 478 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 5: dominant pass rush, and he goes out and balls the 479 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 5: way he did. Like I think that people forget how 480 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 5: talented he is because you look at Kyle Shanahan's offense 481 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 5: and the weapons that he has in George Kittle and 482 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 5: Chris McCaffrey, it's like, oh, he's a system quarterback. Okay, 483 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 5: well the system's working for him and we just saw 484 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 5: it yesterday. And just the joy that comes out of 485 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 5: that locker room in those players when he's on the field. 486 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 5: George Kittle said, there's only been two quarterbacks that he 487 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 5: can relate to in the way Brock like is in 488 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: the huddle. It's like him and I don't know who else, 489 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 5: he said, but like he's just so elite in the huddle, 490 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 5: and he plays the game with this joy that's so infectious, 491 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 5: and it's so fun for them to have him back. 492 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 5: It did feel like, though, for a second, guys, you know, 493 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 5: I'm in here doing updates every week. I was like, 494 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 5: how many times are we going to say Brock Purty 495 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 5: is on the field? 496 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 4: Limited? Like when is this guy gonna go? Let's go? 497 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 4: But now he's back, and. 498 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 5: Now the Niners are back in hey NFC West, Yes, 499 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 5: the Rams are in first place, but it's honestly anybody's game, really. 500 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think two things we learned in this 501 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: one is I sort of thought that after Brock's contract 502 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 3: that we would stop wondering if he was a franchise guy, 503 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 3: we meaning the collective media and public, And that has 504 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 3: not happened. 505 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: Like it's still like. 506 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,239 Speaker 1: He's played three games since That's why. It's basically not 507 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: been on the field. 508 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: That's why. 509 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: But still, but still even people who like respected people 510 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 3: who know better were still talking about a quarterback controversy 511 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 3: when we know there isn't one, and Kyle Shannan said 512 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 3: there isn't one and there can't possibly be one, and so. 513 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, and you talk about the system, like Bridget said, 514 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: the system quarterback differs between a system quarterback and a 515 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: system fit. Yeah, Kyle's system is so well proven. Matt 516 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: Ryan won an MVP playing in this system. We saw 517 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo take a team to a super Bowl playing 518 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: in the system. Brock is taking this team to a 519 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: super Bowl playing in the system. None of those guys 520 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: statistically have ever done what Brock Purty is doing over 521 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: this long of a period of time. Bridget, we ran 522 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: out of time. Thank you very much. 523 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 5: Appreciate you your reputations because it'll follow you forever. 524 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah we know, trust me. 525 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, just google Ian. You'll find a few good ones 526 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: in there, all right. If you're on the podcast, go 527 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: to part two right now. If you're watching us on 528 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: YouTube or on the NFL channel on faster and platforms, 529 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: stay right here. A lot more insiders to come for 530 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: bridget Ian. I'm Tom, will see you there.