Speaker 1: It's one one am in an overrunning sewer in the
Speaker 1: fowls of Los Angeles, and you're listening to Night Golf. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Night Call, a podcast for your strange
Speaker 1: days and lonely nights. My name is Emily Oshida. I
Speaker 1: am in Los Angeles and with me not on the
Speaker 1: other end of the line, but in front of my
Speaker 1: own god damn face, I have Molly Lambert and sitting
Speaker 1: across from Emily and I Hello, it's Test Lynch, of course,
Speaker 1: Meet Space, Meet Space. Welcome back, both of you. I
Speaker 1: have been here as I generally am in Los Angeles, Test,
Speaker 1: and I've been you and Toss on jet set in journeys. Emily,
Speaker 1: why don't you tell us about your journey to Sundance.
Speaker 1: I was at the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah. Um.
Speaker 1: It was actually like the chilliest time I've had there
Speaker 1: because I wasn't drinking and so thus was not really
Speaker 1: going to that many parties and also had an express
Speaker 1: pass so I could just like waltz into movies. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: it's not a humble brag, it's a it's a brag bag.
Speaker 1: And the only reason I'm bragging about it is because, um,
Speaker 1: I don't know if any like film Twitter people. It's
Speaker 1: like the Disneyland fast passim Twitter kind of, but it's
Speaker 1: specifically political this year because like famous troll of film
Speaker 1: Twitter Jeff Wells Uh, there was a kerfuffle a couple
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago because he his long standing
Speaker 1: UH accreditation and express pass were revoked. Do you guys
Speaker 1: know who he is? Like an idiots he's a crazy person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's just an absurd heman bean, But he kind
Speaker 1: of is one of these people who's just he started
Speaker 1: off in the trades and now he has his own
Speaker 1: blog and he just goes to all these festivals. Everybody
Speaker 1: will just like welcome home with open arms. And it's
Speaker 1: just completely unclear why because he's kind of like a
Speaker 1: senile dinosaur, are people like afraid of him? Is that why?
Speaker 1: No idea. I think it's just like old time's sake,
Speaker 1: like what happens when film Twitter congregates and meat Space
Speaker 1: um karaoke. There's a lot of like, oh that's what
Speaker 1: you look like. We're very a post body crowd. But
Speaker 1: I did get to meet like several people that I
Speaker 1: had not met before, like you know, just sit and
Speaker 1: waiting for the movies. So that was fun. But see
Speaker 1: some good movies. Um, yeah, I saw a couple of
Speaker 1: good movies, Emily's Movie Corner. I saw a lot of movies,
Speaker 1: and I didn't get to see the ones I was
Speaker 1: most excited to talk about here because I didn't get
Speaker 1: to see Penny Lane's of like Satanic Church. We love
Speaker 1: Penny Lane. Penny Lane Come on Night Call. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: documentary director who makes all the best documentaries. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: that one I really wanted to see. Hopefully I'll get
Speaker 1: to like maybe see it on a screener later or something.
Speaker 1: But it was called Hail Satan and I heard very
Speaker 1: good things about it. Um. Probably my favorite, like my
Speaker 1: favorite as far as Nightcall picks goes, would be a
Speaker 1: movie called We Are Little Zombies from Japan and it's
Speaker 1: just a completely bananas thing about these kids who they
Speaker 1: all lose their parents in various incidents and accidents and
Speaker 1: then they decide to form a band to help them
Speaker 1: refine their emotions. Um. It's like stylistically totally insane, like
Speaker 1: every scene is shot a different way, and there's a
Speaker 1: song in it that they sing that has been stuck
Speaker 1: in my head pretty much since the day I saw
Speaker 1: the movie. It's very good and it doesn't have any
Speaker 1: distribution yet, but hopefully it will. But I was like
Speaker 1: comparing it to the Lure um which have you guys
Speaker 1: seen the Mermaid The Mermaid one? Yeah, you guys have
Speaker 1: to see the Lure. The Lure is bananas. But that
Speaker 1: when I saw that at Sundance the year it was there,
Speaker 1: it was one of these things where I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is here, Like in between the
Speaker 1: bittersweet family dramas and coming to age stories, there's this
Speaker 1: completely insane vampire musical, like vampire mermaid musical and that's
Speaker 1: kind of how little. Yeah, it's a full on musical.
Speaker 1: It takes place in the eighties at like a nightclub
Speaker 1: and they and their vampire there. Yeah, well they eat men. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so they're like sirens. Yeah they are horror yeah, and
Speaker 1: things that eat people and Sundance and Sundancel bus songs.
Speaker 1: Did you did you guys watch? I watched its does
Speaker 1: not have the chance to watch it yet, she knows
Speaker 1: nothing about it. We got a picture on kind of
Speaker 1: picture on it. I was quite excited to see this one,
Speaker 1: even though you know, sometimes it's like you get very
Speaker 1: excited to see a movie at Sundances, especially recently, then
Speaker 1: it comes out like a week before. Oh it's on Netflix.
Speaker 1: It's going to be out on Netflix like next week.
Speaker 1: So there's just that kind of like, oh, do I
Speaker 1: really need to go see it out here? But I did.
Speaker 1: I went to the first showing because I was stoked.
Speaker 1: And it's like Jeff r Jake Dilan Hall is in
Speaker 1: his like weird period right now, or his cage period.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. Yeah, he's like fast forwarding to
Speaker 1: Nick cage zone. Nightcrawler was a real Yeah. That was
Speaker 1: kind of the beginning of it, I think. And that
Speaker 1: was Dan Gilroy, who directed Velvet buzz Saw, which is
Speaker 1: like an art world horror satire and l a art
Speaker 1: world horror satire about evil paintings that kill people. Sound
Speaker 1: so good? Here, let me pitch it to you even better.
Speaker 1: You can watch it on Netflix at home. There we go.
Speaker 1: I am solved. I watched it last night. Yeah, after
Speaker 1: Adventure to Adventure. We're on that later on that later, uh,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed it, especially because I was
Speaker 1: watching it at home and as movies are meant to
Speaker 1: be watched. I mean, the thing about it is it's
Speaker 1: very hard to parody the art world because it is
Speaker 1: so ridiculous, especially the l a art world. I was like,
Speaker 1: some of these things are crazy, but like not crazier
Speaker 1: than anything that I've actually been to. Yeah, that's like this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the most fun that Gilroy has with it,
Speaker 1: and the actors too, is like the looks of people,
Speaker 1: like it's just tightening, Like Tony Collette especially, she had
Speaker 1: Tony Collette scream Queen. Tony Collett. Yes, makes an appearance
Speaker 1: as like a rich art gallery lady. She's like she
Speaker 1: was a curator at a museum, but then she got
Speaker 1: a job like being an art advisor for some wealth
Speaker 1: people there, so certainly she's like swimming in the money.
Speaker 1: And it's like and they talk about like, oh, the
Speaker 1: rich people that have these paintings that like nobody even
Speaker 1: ever sees because they're just in crates and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like I used to think that was bad, but
Speaker 1: now I'm like, who cares to me that money? As
Speaker 1: long as I get paid? And those are not the
Speaker 1: pictures that kill people though, and Renee Russo is in it.
Speaker 1: Everybody has a great character name. A lot of names
Speaker 1: are Banana's name is Gretchen, I think, but Renee Russo
Speaker 1: is Umdora Hayes. The character's name is More, which sold
Speaker 1: me on this movie was his name is more m
Speaker 1: O rf. Okay, there's somebody named like John Dondon. That's
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Speaker 1: it lasts. Yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. There were things,
Speaker 1: you know, nitpicky, many nitpicky things about it. Well, it
Speaker 1: makes its point with like a sledgehammer, and then it
Speaker 1: keeps Who's going to say? Is that? Also? Uh? Legendary
Speaker 1: character actor Dick Miller just passed away. R I P.
Speaker 1: Dick Miller um beloved star of Gremlins, and but he's
Speaker 1: in a bunch of Roger Corman movies, including this movie
Speaker 1: Bucket of Blood. A Bucket of Blood, which is like
Speaker 1: a fifties horror movie about a beat nick coffee shop
Speaker 1: guy who accidentally kills somebody and then like covers them
Speaker 1: in concrete and becomes like a super hip artist because
Speaker 1: of it. It's like House of Wax. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: like it's just like that. It's like an art world
Speaker 1: parody where it's like, then he has to kill more
Speaker 1: people to make more sculptures. One does. Um, and his
Speaker 1: character's name is like Marvin Paisley or something. It felt
Speaker 1: very it's very spiritually related to this movie. Marvin Paisley
Speaker 1: this movie is silly, I sort of. My only complaint
Speaker 1: is I wish Jake Jilan Hall had gone even more
Speaker 1: Nick Cage with it. It was a little more restrained
Speaker 1: than I expected. But don't you have to save some
Speaker 1: of that for later? Well he didn't Nick Cage, didn't
Speaker 1: go full NICKI he's already gone full Nick Cage for
Speaker 1: oak Jah nightcrawlar. I feel like in Nightcrawler too, I
Speaker 1: was just like, Oh, you're just like be a weird
Speaker 1: character actor. Well. I interviewed Dan el Roy last week. Um,
Speaker 1: you can find my review of the film and my
Speaker 1: interview with Dan Kilroy on vulture dot com. But I
Speaker 1: asked him, you know, just about how much of this
Speaker 1: character was what you wrote and how much was what
Speaker 1: Jake brought to the table. And like, the stuff that
Speaker 1: Jake brought to the table was apparently like he needs
Speaker 1: to write like a mini Cooper clubman. Like he had
Speaker 1: the car specifically that he drove, and then he had
Speaker 1: a flip phone. And the quote was something like, I
Speaker 1: like tradition and morph as a traditionalist. He has a
Speaker 1: flip phone, the old tradition. Yeah, he's playing a character
Speaker 1: who is based on Jerry Saltz. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean he's based on Jerry Saltz maybe as far
Speaker 1: as like the influence that Jerry Saltz wheels like. I
Speaker 1: was actually just recently because I had to review um,
Speaker 1: Welcome to Marwin. I was going back and looking at Yeah. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: so like that was like a big outsider art story
Speaker 1: where like suddenly this is like the biggest thing happening
Speaker 1: in the art world, and Jerry Saltz was actually really
Speaker 1: big part of that, like he wrote about it in
Speaker 1: the voice. So what you're saying is that Velvet Bus
Speaker 1: is in the Marwin verse. Yeah, I mean it is
Speaker 1: about like a like a guy with a tragic backstory
Speaker 1: who has these cursed paint It to you, they like
Speaker 1: find a dead guy's paintings and turn them into an
Speaker 1: art world star, and is also ridiculous. He was also silly,
Speaker 1: and then the paintings turned out to be haunted and
Speaker 1: they kill everybody who seeks to profit off of his work.
Speaker 1: So anybody who like is trying to make money off
Speaker 1: of his art, but like through other artwork, though it's
Speaker 1: not through the paintings themselves. The paintings themselves, they just
Speaker 1: like hallucinate that they're bleeding, but then they get eaten
Speaker 1: by other artworks. So like Tony collect gets eaten by
Speaker 1: like this giant orb and uh, which is actually the
Speaker 1: best scene on the whole movie. And and Dan Gilroy
Speaker 1: told me that she screamed so loud that she couldn't
Speaker 1: hear when they had called cut the best scene in
Speaker 1: the movie for sure. Yeah, there's a lot of like
Speaker 1: I mean it basically not to spoil it, spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: it builds up to a bunch of big set pieces
Speaker 1: of people getting killed off. That's all that you're there
Speaker 1: for sculptures, which just really opens up the possibilities of
Speaker 1: like other sculptures that could kill people. Yeah, what would
Speaker 1: you like to be killed by the most? Honestly that
Speaker 1: Lachma outside of Lacmather's that giant suspended boulder over the
Speaker 1: walkway and I'm always just waiting it's just gonna happens.
Speaker 1: That's like even more murdery than anything in the movie. Brutalist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be kind of cool to be like killed
Speaker 1: by a Sarah, like to just be like buried or
Speaker 1: like entombed. Oh, that's a scary idea. There's something there's
Speaker 1: a part. I mean, I won't go to into spoilers,
Speaker 1: but it's a lot of you know, if you've ever
Speaker 1: been in a gallery and been like that thing looks
Speaker 1: like it's kind of dangerous in a weird way, this
Speaker 1: is the movie for you. It's very sold man, that's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: enjoy a night called Delight. Oh you know, it would
Speaker 1: be a really good thing to be in a horror movie. Um,
Speaker 1: this is it. I think it's a DIA beacon. But
Speaker 1: there are these um I forget who does them, but
Speaker 1: there these holes that are in the ground and they
Speaker 1: they cord in it off so you can't walk up
Speaker 1: close enough to see the bottom of the hole. So
Speaker 1: it just looks like it could be an endless hole.
Speaker 1: That's uh that that? Yeah? I would. I would go
Speaker 1: diet like Clai's Oldenburg, Like was that who it was?
Speaker 1: He did floor burger and stuff. You know. Actually went
Speaker 1: to an art installation once that killed somebody? Really that
Speaker 1: I think about. It was funny anymore. It was the
Speaker 1: umbrellas on the crystal umbrellas. Oh yeah, wait right did
Speaker 1: they kill somebody? Yeah? Like the crystal umbrellas there were
Speaker 1: some and I think hand and then in California. There
Speaker 1: were like blue ones in Japan and yellow ones in California,
Speaker 1: and it was like we were on a road trip
Speaker 1: and we like stopped and saw them, but it was
Speaker 1: like that crazy stormy day and we left because it
Speaker 1: was so windy. And then later that day one of
Speaker 1: them fell on somebody. Oh my god, and a hey,
Speaker 1: speaking of things that can kill you, can I tell
Speaker 1: you guys that I took a plane trip. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: please clap now. This was my first plane trip and
Speaker 1: it actually I took one to New York. But I'm terrified.
Speaker 1: I really hate to fly, but it was it was
Speaker 1: really great. Um. I flew Alaska Airlines and I was
Speaker 1: before we started recording, I was like just saying how
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Speaker 1: they sent us a really good we got some pictures.
Speaker 1: I took umbridge at the idea that planes have staircases
Speaker 1: inside of that and they but they did. And then
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been on one that has a staircase, fancy,
Speaker 1: but I didn't get to go up the staircase. It
Speaker 1: was like you have to. I don't know what was upstairs.
Speaker 1: I think I was on a Kalumn flight that had
Speaker 1: the lounge upstairs. So cool. Yeah, but yeah, we got
Speaker 1: sent these these pictures of the stairs, and now that
Speaker 1: I know that my parents didn't invent those, that's nice. Um.
Speaker 1: But I went to d C and it snowed, which
Speaker 1: was awesome, but also um, outside of my hotel, which
Speaker 1: was right, but it was like pretty close to the
Speaker 1: to the White House area, I don't know. Uh, there
Speaker 1: was this little park with nothing in it really, but
Speaker 1: there was this guy. We had to pass through the park.
Speaker 1: We were going to a museum, and there was this
Speaker 1: guy who was surrounded by pigeons and squirrels and we
Speaker 1: were like, oh, you must just be throwing bird seed
Speaker 1: on the ground, And then we saw that they all
Speaker 1: of the pigeons would come up to him and climb
Speaker 1: up his body and so he was like covered in pigeons.
Speaker 1: He had peanuts like in the shell that he would crush,
Speaker 1: and then all of these peanuts would come and squirrels
Speaker 1: would come hang out on his shoulder and I went
Speaker 1: over and I was like, can I get in on this?
Speaker 1: And I didn't get in on it, So I got
Speaker 1: to be covered in pigeons. That's my nightmare. Speaking of nightmares,
Speaker 1: picture I put some on my Instagram. My kids got
Speaker 1: to hold the pigeons, My husband's got to hold the pig,
Speaker 1: my husband's my husband singular got to hold the pigeons,
Speaker 1: and I got to hold a squirrel my husband's my
Speaker 1: But it was amazing. Although it was if you let
Speaker 1: the birds cover you, you're all married. It's true, yeah,
Speaker 1: as as is customary and my but yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was awesome, even though growing up in New York
Speaker 1: it was like that's as such. Everyone's like, are you crazy?
Speaker 1: Broke the pigeon taboo? Yeah I did. I was wearing
Speaker 1: gloves at these cold Yeah, you were covered. I didn't
Speaker 1: touch about your skin, what about your hair? They were
Speaker 1: in there. You know that pitchcock was there. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not going to repeat right now my nightmare about
Speaker 1: about pigeons, which happened to me. I mean, but it's
Speaker 1: not it's it's just gross. It's not like baroque It's
Speaker 1: just that in Rome, when I was a teenager, my
Speaker 1: mom was staying there working on she was like doing
Speaker 1: her dissertation. So h we had this apartment and and
Speaker 1: near the end of our stay, we're just like we
Speaker 1: kept getting these little tiny bites and stuff. And then
Speaker 1: we realized that there were these like mites that came
Speaker 1: into the apartment. And they came in because the pigeons
Speaker 1: were like roosting outside the bathroom window, like like we
Speaker 1: hadn't they were so tiny we couldn't see them, but
Speaker 1: as soon as you looked closer, you could just see
Speaker 1: all the little mite you know. I had on my
Speaker 1: back porch and I thought they were really cute until
Speaker 1: I looked it up and learned about bird and then
Speaker 1: I thought that I like got super just a hypochondriact,
Speaker 1: that I had bird mites. And I was telling tests
Speaker 1: that I was like reading the internet a lot to
Speaker 1: learn about like what were the symptoms, and that there
Speaker 1: were definitely some people who really had it, but there
Speaker 1: were also some people who had crystal meth psychosis, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they thought their skin. It was like it was
Speaker 1: like the symptoms were so similar that it was like
Speaker 1: people were like, well, I'm like, feel itchy all the time,
Speaker 1: and God, I figured that I'd been on a plane,
Speaker 1: so I had already done the scariest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna go for it. But also
Speaker 1: it was freezing cold, and I think like later, when
Speaker 1: I was like, was that smart test, I was like,
Speaker 1: but so cold, then probably all the parasites were dormant.
Speaker 1: I love that theory. Something about vehicle. It's very yearly cleansed.
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Speaker 1: I've been watching a bunch of nineties. Well, one was
Speaker 1: the thriller I watched The Firm for the first uh,
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Speaker 1: it's like three hours long. It is three all of
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Speaker 1: he says, who are like seven different ways. He only
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Speaker 1: was based on the Allion novel. No. I think it
Speaker 1: was also made into a I think it was an
Speaker 1: Italian of Italian movie. Seven. Yes, I thought, um every
Speaker 1: thing that was always grossed at, like the idea, the
Speaker 1: scent of it's a bad name. But he's supposed to
Speaker 1: be gross. He's not supposed to be like, it's not
Speaker 1: supposed to be romantic. He's like an old purv and
Speaker 1: he's like a horrible person and it's funny. But I
Speaker 1: think there was the implication that you were supposed to
Speaker 1: be kind of charmed by him. Yeah. I was charmed
Speaker 1: by him. When he was like, you have just put
Speaker 1: your face in a woman's hair and dyeing it. Now
Speaker 1: my hot take, which is um watching The Fugitive, I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, like most people really rooting for Harrison
Speaker 1: Ford in this movie rooting for Tommy Lee Jones. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were you rooting for The One Armed Man? Also, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not rooting for the one the One Armed Man.
Speaker 1: He had like a weird career that he was in
Speaker 1: Star Trek, which I was like, huh, who is on
Speaker 1: Star Trek? I don't remember for his The actor's name
Speaker 1: is Andreas Catsulas. He was in like a few of them.
Speaker 1: I think, um, like a few different iterations of Star Trek.
Speaker 1: I went deep. I was like, oh, I need to
Speaker 1: know everything because I had seen it, like I had
Speaker 1: watched it and kind of like not the mindset of
Speaker 1: paying much attention to it before because I find it
Speaker 1: a very comforting movie. These are all comfort food. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like, the most ridiculous scene in The Fugitive is
Speaker 1: when Cela it's like the flashback of like Ceil a
Speaker 1: Ward tossing rose petals in like a path up the stairs.
Speaker 1: When Harrison Dr. Kimbell is at his benefit and she
Speaker 1: goes home early and she's like, oh, wait up, and
Speaker 1: then she does the whole like roses thing. And I
Speaker 1: love like seeing a woman in that trope of the
Speaker 1: ridiculous because benefit, oh Molly, forget it's been a spoiler alert.
Speaker 1: She leads though, she has the rose trail up to
Speaker 1: the bedroom. She's in the bedroom when our man comes in.
Speaker 1: He starts murdering her. Harrison Ford comes home to kill
Speaker 1: It's really been a while since, you know. But again,
Speaker 1: it's like these are putting nineties memes in context, you know,
Speaker 1: like we all know who are you all know the
Speaker 1: one armed man. It wasn't me, it was the one
Speaker 1: armed man. All these things they just now they make sense.
Speaker 1: I feel like I knew the firm from the rap
Speaker 1: supergroup the firm. I didn't realized the firm was crooked
Speaker 1: and that was the whole thing. But also in the end,
Speaker 1: in the Firm, they like all they really do is
Speaker 1: overcharge rich people, which is really not that bad. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: possibly good even I don't know. The best thing about
Speaker 1: The Firm is that it is like it has more
Speaker 1: plot than any movie ever, Like you forget every There's
Speaker 1: so many important characters. In the first there's like a
Speaker 1: billion side characters, and well they just actually I started
Speaker 1: watch this is the Downfall of my style. I started
Speaker 1: watching it on Hulu and then on February first, they
Speaker 1: took it off, so I had to buy it to
Speaker 1: watch the rest of it, which I did. Um, A fine,
Speaker 1: a fine film. Well, I feel like that like zillion
Speaker 1: plot thing is something I remember a lot from movies
Speaker 1: that were like for grown ups novels. Yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was like and I remember thinking, how does anybody
Speaker 1: write something like this? How does anybody like keep all
Speaker 1: this stuff in check? And now they don't do it
Speaker 1: any They just don't. They don't do it just now.
Speaker 1: They're just like if an idiot can't understand that, right.
Speaker 1: The Firm is very complex, it is, and it's like
Speaker 1: certain things I feel like are not they don't provide
Speaker 1: any follow through. There's like some red herring plot things
Speaker 1: in there where you are like, really spending a lot
Speaker 1: of my question. I'm trying to remember I was like
Speaker 1: looking back at I think I looked at like the
Speaker 1: Ebert review or whatever from when is it from nine?
Speaker 1: So it's weird too because both The Fugitive and The
Speaker 1: Firm came out in ninety three, which is like just
Speaker 1: like No c G. I just like a bunch of
Speaker 1: grown ups and Christodonald's times dad has his solo movie
Speaker 1: night movies for Dad's Like my mom was way more
Speaker 1: into these movies than my dad's like us, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: Like that's like I guess it's less red hearings and
Speaker 1: it's more that you you invest all this. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like the Menution. There's it feels like it's based
Speaker 1: on a novel and like it's condensing a lot of
Speaker 1: things from a novel, right like you're going down there.
Speaker 1: I thought it is, but it has that feeling where
Speaker 1: you're like this probably was like three hundred more pages
Speaker 1: and here they're making it like a ten minute part
Speaker 1: of the movie. But there is a whole like side
Speaker 1: thing involving David Strathairn and Holly Hunter, like I was,
Speaker 1: wasn't it Gary Busey, He's also involved. He's in the
Speaker 1: movie for five minutes, but it's the greatest five minutes
Speaker 1: of your life. And he was already So Jane Lynch
Speaker 1: is in The Fugitive, which like what as like a doctor,
Speaker 1: and Julianne Moore, he's like, she's build up there, but
Speaker 1: then she doesn't come into the movie until the very
Speaker 1: end where it's like she would Basically it's like a
Speaker 1: guest star on e er type role where she's like
Speaker 1: she's a doctor, she's literally the doctor. And then she's
Speaker 1: like that guy saved that boy's life. And they're like
Speaker 1: Kimball and then away on the thing and somebody like
Speaker 1: chases him on the hospital. But Harrison Ford is in
Speaker 1: the hospital and he shaves and nobody's recognizing him as
Speaker 1: Kimball and he's just like, I'm a janitor and they're like,
Speaker 1: here take this boy ups outfit. Remember I saw a
Speaker 1: movie for the first time like two years ago. So good.
Speaker 1: It was good. But yeah, being on a on a
Speaker 1: plane watching a movie, it's pretty great. Watched three in
Speaker 1: a row. Yeah. I also told Molly I watched Beautiful Boy,
Speaker 1: and really I haven't even watched people. Well, let me
Speaker 1: tell you this. I was watching. Yeah, I was watching
Speaker 1: Beautiful Boy, and like twenty five minutes in my mind
Speaker 1: was wanting it's a good movie, but my mind started
Speaker 1: wandering and I was just like, god, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I'm like clinically depressed. I was like, this this
Speaker 1: trip has really made me realize. Like I'm like on
Speaker 1: the way there and I'm just like this trip already
Speaker 1: has made me realized. I was like, I think, like
Speaker 1: I don't even know, like I've never felt this sad,
Speaker 1: like this is awful and didn't connect it at all
Speaker 1: the fact that I was watching a movie that is
Speaker 1: so depressing, and then I turned on can you ever
Speaker 1: Forgive Me? I was like, I'm not depressed? Why I
Speaker 1: couldn't depressing because like watching a depressing movie at home,
Speaker 1: like you just are like in your but on the
Speaker 1: plane you're like riveted. It's dark, but it's like really funny.
Speaker 1: I'm like not going to see Beautiful Boy until somebody
Speaker 1: forces me to or I have to for work, because
Speaker 1: it's just like why would I put myself through that?
Speaker 1: And there's like four movies this year about like white
Speaker 1: boys with drug problems and their parents are worried about them,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, wait, what are the other ones?
Speaker 1: Ben is ac is Lucas Hedges and his mom is
Speaker 1: Julia Roberts. And then there's another one that I'm forgetting about.
Speaker 1: There's like three. Yeah, there's too many. There's just a lot,
Speaker 1: and they're all like it's all they're like movies about
Speaker 1: the opioid crisis, but like from a really privileged place.
Speaker 1: So remember in Traffic when they smoke math in the
Speaker 1: first scene. I remember being like, this is crazy. Oh wait, guys,
Speaker 1: I remember there's one movie that I saw at Sundance
Speaker 1: that I want to talk to you about. I told
Speaker 1: you a little bit about this over text. But there's
Speaker 1: a movie they're called Mope that is about, uh, this
Speaker 1: incident in two thousand nine in the Valley where an
Speaker 1: aspiring male porn start um murdered a bunch of people
Speaker 1: at like a really like a very low rent studio
Speaker 1: with a Samurai sword and then jumped off a cliff
Speaker 1: um And it is like the story of that really
Speaker 1: it had this guy. Now I'm going to forget the
Speaker 1: name of the actor. Did you guys ever watch Misfits
Speaker 1: like the Tall like and I think the first season
Speaker 1: not a documentary? No, no, no, no no, it's it's dramatized. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like a super semi modern day like scuzzed
Speaker 1: out like Unites basically, except without the success and with
Speaker 1: more murder um. But it's like I think that it
Speaker 1: was like an imperfect film, but it was It did
Speaker 1: the thing of like we're going to be bright, shining
Speaker 1: stars one day because it was like this broken friendship
Speaker 1: between these two guys who wanted to like become stars
Speaker 1: in the porn industry as like the Jackie Chan and
Speaker 1: Chris Tucker of porn like they because it was like
Speaker 1: this Asian guy and this black guy and they wanted
Speaker 1: to be like they want to do like buddy porn
Speaker 1: movies together, but they apparently were just terrible, like they
Speaker 1: were very bad at their job, and then one of
Speaker 1: them lost his mind. But it was that sounds so honestly,
Speaker 1: this movie sounds so depressing. It is pretty depressing, Like
Speaker 1: it's pretty gross. How did it's all watching upbeat comedies
Speaker 1: people who don't know their cat, So that's like one
Speaker 1: of the most upsetting things in any movie. It was
Speaker 1: very very other cat, I have to say, though, so
Speaker 1: full disclosure of my mom is in Can You Ever
Speaker 1: Forgive Me did not influence me loving this movie. In fact,
Speaker 1: I had a screener of it and didn't watch it
Speaker 1: for a long time. I'm sorry, Mom, but the cat
Speaker 1: saying I have a very very old cat. And when
Speaker 1: she was talking about her old cat and then she
Speaker 1: was like he's twelve, I was like, oh, get over yourself,
Speaker 1: Like they're really aging down this. This cat should have
Speaker 1: been a twenty five year old cat. The way that
Speaker 1: this cat was like refusing to eat the shrimp, needing
Speaker 1: like seventeen different medications. I know, Molly, Yeah, tread lightly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay. There's a kitten. At the end. There was
Speaker 1: a cat in velvet bus saw that I was sure
Speaker 1: I was going to get it, and it doesn't. It's
Speaker 1: one of the only ones that's spared because it doesn't
Speaker 1: try to profit off art. Cat cats are okay. So
Speaker 1: last night, I'm in Los Angeles and one of my
Speaker 1: favorite things to do visiting Los Angeles is to go
Speaker 1: to we Spa, the Korean Spa, And we actually got
Speaker 1: like a big group to go there last night. UM
Speaker 1: a few of our mutual friends, Molly, Molly and I
Speaker 1: and UM. It was one of the longest periods of
Speaker 1: time I've spent at we spa because I think we
Speaker 1: were there for about five or six hours in total,
Speaker 1: but the time just sort of melts. Have you ever
Speaker 1: been to no, I'm a never nude. Well, I feel
Speaker 1: like you would change your mind in this context, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Well. Sometimes somebody comes in wearing a
Speaker 1: swimsuit and everybody just gives them the stink. Guy's always
Speaker 1: been pushing. I would have been tempted because you guys
Speaker 1: were going, but I had just gotten off a plane.
Speaker 1: But it's great after a plane. I'm like, I, you know,
Speaker 1: if I eat dinner first. And Molly met a friend
Speaker 1: outside of who brought her own. Yeah, I made a
Speaker 1: really good friend outside. She was like a glamorous lady
Speaker 1: and she was like just started talking to me, and
Speaker 1: she was from Mountain Shasta. She was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I've never been to this spa before. I'm used to
Speaker 1: the Mount Shasta, the more luxurious spas um. But she
Speaker 1: was eating a whole dungeoness crab that she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: whole food, just having this great sale and crab. I
Speaker 1: bought a whole crab. I will say that friend of
Speaker 1: the podcast Andrew t often eats a whole crab as
Speaker 1: a meal and I respect it so hard it's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know that thing where you have
Speaker 1: all those crab shells in your freezer that you used
Speaker 1: to make crab stock from all the crabs you ate
Speaker 1: for lunch. And I was like, noes Andrew get his
Speaker 1: crabs from. I think maybe Harbor Seafood, one of the
Speaker 1: big sea food markets. He will correct me on what
Speaker 1: it actually is when he hears this. Anyway, check it out.
Speaker 1: We went, but we went to so that was just
Speaker 1: like the amuse bouche for our we spa experience. UM.
Speaker 1: But one of the great things at the Korean spas,
Speaker 1: I think several of them do this, but in the
Speaker 1: dry sauna and in some of the other areas as well.
Speaker 1: UM they have a TV on UM and they have
Speaker 1: it turned to like KBS or like whatever, like in
Speaker 1: the Korean American tv UM station, and they happened to
Speaker 1: be playing the Korean mask singer on the tv UH,
Speaker 1: which we were shocked to learn is very different. We
Speaker 1: speculated about it on this show a few weeks ago
Speaker 1: because the American version is very steampunk. It's very Rocco.
Speaker 1: But the Korean version, the original version turns out to
Speaker 1: be much more low fi. It's like these paper masks.
Speaker 1: The one that I watched it was it was there
Speaker 1: were too Disney princesses. Also the copyright feels a little
Speaker 1: bit part also. I was like, oh, Disney princesses, Yeah,
Speaker 1: are just going for it because it's very clearly that's
Speaker 1: what it is. But it was like, um, it is
Speaker 1: a It was a Jasmine versus Bell, and they were
Speaker 1: wearing these masks that are like they're very upsetting. They're
Speaker 1: two dimensional masks. They're flat like paper masks, and the
Speaker 1: mouths are like huge, like like Riddler smiles, terrifying, Like
Speaker 1: it's scarier because it's like it's like a full body
Speaker 1: costume on the American version, but the crew version is
Speaker 1: like you're wearing a dress, a costume costumes person that
Speaker 1: you're being. And so the other one I saw was
Speaker 1: John Lennon versus Pavarotti, so weird. But the mouth is
Speaker 1: I think the upsetting thing because it's like you can't
Speaker 1: end like a huge mouth because it's a screen. So
Speaker 1: that because they hold the microphone, and I think in
Speaker 1: the American one they have Mike's inside of the mask,
Speaker 1: but this one they just hold them Mike and so
Speaker 1: they have to be able to project through this gaping
Speaker 1: ma hole. Um. It's very but you guys liked this.
Speaker 1: It was pretty great. But it did make me think,
Speaker 1: like because the people that ended up being like, when
Speaker 1: one of them got unmasked, it was like, oh, she
Speaker 1: was in some pop group from a few years. We
Speaker 1: were saying, like it made more sense because it was
Speaker 1: all like singers mostly, it seemed like right, and the
Speaker 1: American versions like tory spelling like that, don't that aren't singers.
Speaker 1: But there's such as yeah, but there's such a backlog
Speaker 1: of of former pop stars in Korea because like they
Speaker 1: go through these groups so fast because they have to
Speaker 1: like go for their military training, so there's like an
Speaker 1: end date. There's like a four year five year period
Speaker 1: for all these groups, and so there's like a zillion people.
Speaker 1: It could be like who was like, oh, I remember
Speaker 1: that person who doesn't sing in a group anymore, but
Speaker 1: like I remember that they had this song or something,
Speaker 1: which is like a much different set of circumstances with
Speaker 1: which to like have possible mystery singers. Because there's so
Speaker 1: many Mystery Singers Korea. I feel like, uh, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was it was really interesting. Uh and it was inn
Speaker 1: the sauna. It was an the sauna, and it was
Speaker 1: just like the best thing to watch when you're like
Speaker 1: through half litted eyes and you're just like sweating out everything.
Speaker 1: And it was at the same time we were there
Speaker 1: during the during the Super Bowl, so it was also
Speaker 1: the best thing to be watching instead of the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was trying to miss the whole Super Bowl because
Speaker 1: of the no just because because yeah, except for the Saints,
Speaker 1: I don't like football, but you but this year I
Speaker 1: did feel like very invested in what happened with the Saints.
Speaker 1: I know, the Saints robbery, but ultimately well and it's
Speaker 1: so weird. Apparently they had the lowest ratings ever this year,
Speaker 1: and it was like because it was like the first
Speaker 1: season with the Rams, I feel like somebody was saying, oh,
Speaker 1: like you're going to Los Angeles doing Super Bowl, there'll
Speaker 1: be so many like no, nobody cares about them, and
Speaker 1: there's still many more stadium in Inglewood. That's like displacing. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: everybody makes it. But also like there are more Patriots
Speaker 1: fans here because everybody moved. I guess where those people
Speaker 1: can go. Yeah, yep, So anyway, Uh no, no to football.
Speaker 1: I feel like I did my time football. And then
Speaker 1: I saw the super Bowl on the co ed floor
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, there's like and they were
Speaker 1: like all these dudes there to watch the super Bowl
Speaker 1: and I was like, stopped ruining my spat experience. So no,
Speaker 1: it's like the best place to walk because nobody was
Speaker 1: making any noise. No, but I went in the clay
Speaker 1: ball spat, which is like the spa with a million
Speaker 1: tiny clay balls that you roll. Some kids like took
Speaker 1: a bunch of the clay balls and dumped them all
Speaker 1: over the floor and then they were throwing them at people. Uh.
Speaker 1: It was not It was not cool. There was just
Speaker 1: like everybody was just like laying back in the sauna
Speaker 1: watching the super Bowl, and I was like, just so
Speaker 1: and there was no way to face that. You weren't
Speaker 1: facing that TV. And I was like, don't bring me
Speaker 1: into reality. I come here to be like away from
Speaker 1: reality for five to six hours at a time. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I was like, if there's any if there's
Speaker 1: any environment in which to watch that, I would like
Speaker 1: it to be without the sound and in a sauna,
Speaker 1: like just like it's happening off to the side and
Speaker 1: I don't need to like build a party around it.
Speaker 1: But it was great. We saw a minor Bravo celebrity
Speaker 1: um at the wee spot who so loud. And this
Speaker 1: is not a person that anybody thinks that I would
Speaker 1: be gasping about. It's not a person on a on
Speaker 1: a current show nor a recent show. But you guys,
Speaker 1: we're not We're not going to say who it was,
Speaker 1: but I'll just say that I was very excited, but
Speaker 1: you were very excited, and well, I was saying the
Speaker 1: only people the other topics in today's episode might provide
Speaker 1: a hint, right, yes, you know me, you probably know
Speaker 1: who it is. The only people I have like genuinely
Speaker 1: freaked out about seeing in public. We're this person and
Speaker 1: uh uh this actor who's on do you guys watch
Speaker 1: Search Party? Um, he plays like Aleah Shock, hats boyfriend
Speaker 1: and names John Reynolds, and he's just like, somehow the
Speaker 1: most low key funny person I've ever seen on a show,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, and he's on a show with like
Speaker 1: John Early and people who are like legitimately hilarious. But
Speaker 1: there's something about him that I just find to be
Speaker 1: so I don't know what, it is, just so funny.
Speaker 1: And I saw him at a party at Sundance last
Speaker 1: year and I did the full on thing that I
Speaker 1: never do with anybody whor I was like can I
Speaker 1: take an? I like had a couple of drinks and
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to send it to my fiance.
Speaker 1: I got really excited to see local celebrity Dennis Woodroffe
Speaker 1: after the podcast. Was it last week? Two weeks ago? Recently,
Speaker 1: um on Melrose Uh, who is a guy who makes
Speaker 1: his own movies and drives around in a car advertising
Speaker 1: those movies that he makes. That's the big, the big
Speaker 1: trash car. He has paired it down, um he But
Speaker 1: I didn't even recognize him at first. He came in.
Speaker 1: I was in the Starbucks, uh, and he came in
Speaker 1: and was like going around just asking people like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you are you a stoner? Are you just going
Speaker 1: up to people? And he came up to me and
Speaker 1: he's like, are you a stoner? And I was like
Speaker 1: instinctively like well yeah. He was like, well, you gotta
Speaker 1: check out my new movie channel for Stoner's I believe
Speaker 1: it's called Stoner Movies dot com um. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, what's your name? And he's like Dennist. I
Speaker 1: was like, wait, are you Dennis Woodrow? I haven't seen
Speaker 1: you in years and I was so excited. So maybe
Speaker 1: we'll get him on the podcast sometimes. Um. He made
Speaker 1: a movie about aliens. Told me he had an abduction experience. Maybe,
Speaker 1: but I was that was the person who. I was like,
Speaker 1: he's sort of like the male Angeline something. And then
Speaker 1: when I looked it up, I found out this is
Speaker 1: very who weekly content? Um, shout out who Weekly? Uh?
Speaker 1: He I found out that Fergie and Josh do himel
Speaker 1: once once went is Angeline and Dennis Woodrop to a party?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? That made me? Yeah, that's like night.
Speaker 1: I just I just flipped on them entirely. Uh. There's
Speaker 1: an Angeline billboard by where I'm staying in Hollywood, and
Speaker 1: I don't think i've seen one like so prominent in illustration.
Speaker 1: It's a new one and it's great. I don't want
Speaker 1: to boast, but I did park next to Angeline three
Speaker 1: weeks ago at Gelson's Park, right next to my beat
Speaker 1: up Camray, and I was so excited and I waved
Speaker 1: her and she waved back, and then my daughter raped her.
Speaker 1: She waved to my daughter, and then my daughter was
Speaker 1: like when I grew up, I want a pink card.
Speaker 1: Just yes, you two can be like Angeline, not that
Speaker 1: much like the Angel. Wow that the the former Mayfair
Speaker 1: in Franklin Village. Um, I think that does it for
Speaker 1: this week's Night Call. When you hear this, it'll be
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