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That's 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 8: EYL you n I V E R s I t 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 8: Y dot com. 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 9: See you there all right, guys, Welcome back ey L. 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 9: We got a special edition Legends only. This is a Legends, 40 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 9: yes for sure. Whenever we get a chance to talk 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 9: to you know, the hip hop Legends is always fun 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 9: for us because before anything, we was fans of music. 43 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 6: We still are fans of music and just culture. 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 9: So you know, people that have help shape it, it's 45 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 9: always great for us to have conversations with them. So 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 9: we have Rashi better known as Common formerly known as Common. 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 5: Also known as It's dope that we grew up in 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 5: the era and we got to watch our artists mature 49 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 5: and still have relevancy. 50 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 5: So you know, in the early days of hip hop, 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 5: there wasn't an act right like, it felt like this 53 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: couldn't grow. There was a young man's sporty somebody saying 54 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 5: that the other day's a young man sport. I'm like, 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 5: that's true. But these guys that were young have now 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 5: grown and we've grown with them. So I think this 57 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 5: is just this is a dope conversation that we're gonna have. Yeah, no, 58 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 5: for sure, man, thank y'all too for having me up here. Man, 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 5: respect in love with y'all doing. Thank you for sure, 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 5: And I want to say, yeah, I definitely creating. When 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 5: I first started like making music, didn't think I could 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 5: grow into my thirties forties. I'm fifty two now and 63 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 5: be creating music like where it still feel fresh, where 64 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 5: I'm still like weird, not being with Pete Rock and 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 5: I on this album, but just gaining new audience. We 66 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 5: didn't have those examples at the beginning because hip I 67 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 5: was so young. But when we think about it being 68 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 5: a it is a young man's sport, young woman's sport, 69 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 5: but it also is like because it's music. It has 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 5: the time listeners to it. 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 10: Like music doesn't really when you think about music, it 72 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 10: don't really deno the age or. 73 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: Or even the color. 74 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 10: Man like cause some of the some of the songs 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 10: I've enjoyed most, man, it's all walks of life, just 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 10: loving it. It could be Michael Jackson's Off the Wall, 77 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 10: or it could be Kendricks Lamar not like us, you know, 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 10: And I see different like age, different people from different 79 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 10: age groups still enjoying all that music. So I feel 80 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 10: like music when it's made in its purest way and 81 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 10: it really has a soul to it and it's special, 82 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 10: it doesn't have that limit on it. It can grow 83 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 10: and be timeless. And for me as an artist, I've 84 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 10: been just trying to strive and to grow. 85 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 9: Well, how have you been a So you're one of 86 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 9: the few artists that have been able to maintain relevancy 87 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 9: for a long period of time and hip hop right. 88 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 9: Unfortunately a lot of artists don't have that longevity. And 89 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 9: you've done it with different verticals, acting and stuff like that. 90 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 9: So what's your key to be able to maintain relevance 91 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 9: and to reinvent yourself decade after decade. 92 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 10: I mean, I would like to think I had a formula, 93 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 10: but I really didn't have a formula. 94 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: I think it was just a faith. 95 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 10: It's about the love for the art forms. It was 96 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 10: about staying humble and being like, man, I can learn, 97 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 10: I gotta learn. 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: I gotta seek to get better. 99 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 10: So even when I had those victories, like an album 100 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 10: like B I didn't just sit back and be like, Okay, 101 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 10: I made it. 102 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: You know, It's like, how can I get better? 103 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 10: And as you mentioned, like the vertical of acting was 104 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 10: very important to me, and you know, the relevancy that 105 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 10: people see some of that is just because of acting 106 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 10: or because of the activism, because it's not like every 107 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 10: album I put out since ninety two, when I first 108 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 10: put out my first album. It's not like everyone is 109 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 10: connected with people. And I fortunately understand the ups and 110 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 10: downs of that too and can still stay with my 111 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 10: eyes on the prize as far as striving to grow 112 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 10: as an artist, but getting into acting, getting doing different 113 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 10: things like songs, being in the films, like the song 114 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 10: with John Legend and now that you know we got 115 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 10: on an Oscar stage. That is something I was dreamed 116 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 10: of doing as an actor but didn't know I would 117 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 10: do it as a musician sea for some of the 118 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 10: song glory. So that that being said, I think the 119 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 10: the key that I can say most is just man 120 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 10: just being in tune with the most high and following 121 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 10: you know, your consciousness, your gut feeling of who you are. 122 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 10: Times you move like like musically, at times I do 123 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 10: different shit, man, Like I'll be like going out there 124 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 10: venturing off, and I don't be like, Okay, just because 125 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 10: people want to hear me do this boom back hip hop, 126 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 10: I'm just gonna do it. No if I'm if I'm 127 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 10: in this space I wanted to do some eclectic, eccentric stuff, 128 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 10: I'm gonna do it and it might you know, it 129 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 10: might not win then, but it could win later. And 130 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 10: I think that's just about really. I mean, it sounds 131 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 10: so trite, but staying true to who you are and 132 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 10: having a face and being humble, it's the only things 133 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 10: I can look at that has kept me in this 134 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 10: music business. 135 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: This business you came in in ninety two. I mean, 136 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 5: this is what do you like to call it? The 137 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 5: Golden Age, the golden era of hip hop? The breakthrough 138 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 5: song is I used. 139 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: To love her? 140 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they made movies around this Mary Brown 141 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 5: Sugar at the movie it's based off the premise of 142 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 5: I used to love her. 143 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: Yes, I wonder now as you're creating. 144 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 5: Because I want to talk about the selection of from 145 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 5: no Id to Yay, the Pete Rock will get into that. 146 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 5: What's your thoughts now about him? Like do you still 147 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 5: love her in the same way that you said in 148 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 5: ninety two? 149 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 10: Man, I really like kind of refell in love with 150 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 10: hip hop within the past like a few years, Like 151 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 10: I always loved it, but now I feel like it's 152 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 10: an energy out there in the zeitgeist where man people 153 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 10: are appreciating and open to and wanting like hip hop 154 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 10: that has lyrical content like bars, bars, like soulful music 155 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 10: that could be it could be a young fresh artist 156 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 10: giving you something soul for with new sounds, but it's 157 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 10: soulful and authentic, and I just feel like I love 158 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 10: it because I'm realizing seeing that celebration for the fiftieth 159 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 10: year did something for me. It made me see how 160 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 10: much people will always love this music and you think 161 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 10: that the audience Like for me, I thought that the 162 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 10: audience was gone for a certain sound of the music, 163 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 10: but they still there and now we know, like, man, 164 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 10: you can have music, you can have you know, everybody 165 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 10: from Future two nots still putting our music and you 166 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 10: can enjoy it and different. 167 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: Man, I've been we've been touring right now. 168 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 10: It's sometimes us look in the crowd and it's like 169 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 10: people twenty three years old. 170 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, I'm really their father. 171 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 10: But they enjoying the music and they like know the 172 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 10: words to the new album, and I'm like, man, it 173 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 10: just it just shows me that it can be no 174 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 10: boundaries when you when you just put out that that umph, 175 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 10: that stuff that got it too, you know, like man, 176 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 10: and that don't happen all the time. It's just it's 177 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 10: just things aligned at the right time, and you you know. 178 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 10: And I'm saying that to say my passion and love 179 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 10: for hip hop is strong. And I was able to 180 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 10: connect with Pete Rock, who is the right person for 181 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 10: me to create that music with, and it still feel 182 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 10: fresh and new, but has the spirit of what we 183 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 10: always loved. But you could have asked me five years ago, 184 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 10: I might not have been wanting that boom bap sound. 185 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: So I do have that love, and I don't think 186 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 4: that love. 187 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 10: Will ever go anywhere, you know, like any relationships, sometimes 188 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 10: you need something else a little bit. You want to try, 189 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 10: you know, you know, like you try you know. 190 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: I allegedly allegedly, or you just figure out how to 191 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 5: work things out, communicate with each other better. 192 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 10: Let me be clear, you got to you gotta grow 193 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 10: and expand it like y'all y'all interests, you and your 194 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 10: partner's interest y'all say, growing and evolving and you know, 195 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 10: trying new things and remain a line. 196 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: Trying to guy me right, so he still loves it. 197 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 9: I love it so like talking about Pete Rock right, 198 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 9: legendary producer that comes out around the same time as 199 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,479 Speaker 9: you come out. And you guys have a unique perspective 200 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 9: because both of you. 201 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 6: Have been on major labels. Now you're doing it the 202 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 6: independent way. 203 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 9: You've seen it transition from physical CDs to streaming. So 204 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 9: from a business aspect, how what's it like now in 205 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 9: twenty twenty four as opposed to nineteen ninety four? 206 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 6: What have you learned? 207 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 9: What are some challenges now as far as on the 208 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 9: independent side as opposed to just major. 209 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 10: Label Well, business wise, man, I feel like the music 210 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 10: industry was just making a lot more money when we 211 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 10: initially were coming out, maybe not right at the beginning 212 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 10: when Pete Rock Pete Rock came out ninety ninety one, 213 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 10: I came out ninety two, samey. 214 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: At the same time. 215 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 10: Around that ninety four ninety five, budgets started going up. 216 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 10: Like my first videos was like twenty thousand and thirty 217 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 10: thousand dollars. You know, one of my was only able 218 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 10: to spend five thousand dollars on the video. But then 219 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 10: I can remember spending two hundred thousand dollars on the video, 220 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 10: four hundred thousand. But it was denoting that because the 221 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 10: record sales were coming in and record labels were just 222 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 10: making money, and once obviously streaming came and that that 223 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 10: partnership partnership didn't work out like you know, because obviously 224 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 10: I heard Apple approached a lot of the labels like 225 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 10: let's do this together. But the labels were like, nah, 226 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 10: we're good, this is our thing. And Apple came and 227 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 10: manifested that business. And then it made the labels have 228 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 10: to pivot and move and shift and find so I 229 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 10: find it now we the. 230 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: Pot is not as big. 231 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 10: That's why you know, you do to me have to 232 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 10: go out and establish other things revolving around that. I 233 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 10: look at it like, and I started figuring this out 234 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 10: early on, was like, Man, I'm investing in my career 235 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 10: because that's investing in my business, you know. So I 236 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 10: was I was like, Okay, if I'm I'm gonna spend 237 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 10: these money on rehearsals because rehearsals actually will get me 238 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 10: with a great performance, I will be able to perform 239 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 10: for the rest of my life if I like impact 240 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 10: with these shows, doing great performances or out investing in 241 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 10: my own self like this, I'm a higher the chef, 242 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 10: the chef so that I can take care of myself 243 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 10: so when I am in an older age, I can 244 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 10: be doing all the things I need to do, whether 245 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 10: it's stunt's in a movie or jumping around on stage. 246 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 10: Those those investments, I think for me the business change 247 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 10: where we used to depend on the labels to make 248 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 10: those investments, and now as our own entrepreneurs and visionaries, 249 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 10: we're like, oh, we gotta But. 250 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 9: That's interesting because Lebron is notorious that he puts a 251 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 9: million dollars a year into his body, from his trainer 252 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 9: to his chef. I saw somebody running back, Yeah, crazy 253 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 9: vegan alkaline type diet, But I never really looked at 254 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 9: it from your that perspective as far as like a 255 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 9: performer artist, but I guess it's the same thing, like 256 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 9: you gotta. 257 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 6: Be able to breathe correctly. 258 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 9: You gotta be able to So that's interesting that you 259 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 9: that you look because like athletes. I heard it from 260 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 9: the athletic standpoint, but I never heard about it like 261 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 9: an artist looking at it like I'm gonna pay for 262 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 9: a chef, I'm gonna pay for this coach. I'm gonna 263 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 9: do this so I can have more longevity. 264 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 10: Oh man, it's like, yo, that like I understand, you know, 265 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 10: it seemed like it's no brainer for an athlete to 266 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 10: be like, let me invest in my physical well being 267 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 10: because they use their bodies all the all the way. 268 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 10: But so do artists really like And that's the thing 269 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 10: that we we don't think about sometimes because we came 270 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 10: up now, I'm gonna drink this up, drinking this and 271 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 10: kick it. And I still could go on stage and rock. 272 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 10: But at a certain point it started looking sloppy and 273 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 10: and you don't have as much like just like focus, 274 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 10: and you don't have like the energy and and I 275 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 10: think what I've learned, and I learned it early on. 276 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 10: It was thank God for some of the eclectic, you know, 277 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 10: eccentric people or just you know people I met when 278 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 10: I moved to New York, because I was already on 279 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 10: my path, but they were showing me like yo, eating 280 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 10: this stuff, taking some of this alkaline, getting some of 281 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 10: these green drinks. 282 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 4: Well that we were just doing it just to be healthier. 283 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 10: But little did I know it would affect my well 284 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 10: being in my business too, Meaning like I think clear, 285 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 10: I got as much energy you could put me up. 286 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 10: I was just racing against some twenty two years. I 287 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 10: mean I lost three of them. But I was like, 288 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 10: you know, like my point is is like to be 289 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 10: able to do function and move around and do all 290 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 10: those things at a high level, you got to invest 291 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 10: in your body, yourself and well being. It also affects 292 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 10: your emotional well being. So I kind of got that 293 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 10: through just the process of me picking up information, being 294 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 10: around people who were in tune with that, and just 295 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 10: seeing it from myself. And yeah, man, I think it's 296 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 10: I feel like when I think about the music industry, 297 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 10: I really wish we would have had more health and 298 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 10: wellness like attention given because a lot of people have 299 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 10: went and passed on just because of those things and 300 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 10: not having helped. 301 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 6: It's the opposite. It's promoting drugs, alcohol, staying out later. 302 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you don't even come to that because this 303 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 5: is an important part of your life. My mom was 304 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 5: a teacher, yes, right, so the education pieces there. And 305 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 5: like I said, I read in the book the summer 306 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: vacations that were instrumental and developing. But moving to New 307 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 5: York the role that that played because at the time, 308 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 5: and people they kind of can't understand it now because 309 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 5: they look at Chicago and they think, oh, wait, that's 310 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 5: where where Little Dirk's from. But that's what Chief Keys 311 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 5: from and oh you're not. Ya's from there, But like 312 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 5: when you're coming up, it's really like it's you and 313 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 5: maybe twist twist, and then crucial conflict is like a 314 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 5: couple of years after that, but it's not. 315 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: This isn't like a well respected place for hip hop music. 316 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 5: So coming to New York the role that that had, 317 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: because I remember the line and nobody argues you about it, 318 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 5: like I'm the shot Town's nas and I'm like, maybe right, 319 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 5: talking about the role that coming to New York and 320 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 5: the influence obviously getting around Native tongue a little bit 321 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 5: with that had on you. 322 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, well it was first of all, man, I'm like 323 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 10: super grateful that I was just born and raised in 324 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 10: Chicago because it's just it gave me something that I 325 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 10: carry with me that I think that's the authenticity and 326 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 10: and a love and just you know, a down to 327 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 10: earthness that I love. But New York is is a 328 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 10: mecca for bringing all these different people together, like bringing 329 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 10: all different cultures. I think when you're from New York, 330 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 10: you live, you don't even see it from how great 331 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 10: of a city it is, because it's not many cities 332 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 10: that can go that you can go to in the 333 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 10: world and have this mixture of cultures and it really 334 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 10: blends naturally overall, you know. 335 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 6: What I'm saying. 336 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 10: So my foundation, it was hard being in Chicago and 337 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 10: trying to get even signed or get heard. 338 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 4: And once that. 339 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 10: Happened, it was me and Twist and shout out to 340 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 10: Twist and then, like you said, crucial conflict, those guys 341 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 10: got out there. But I still wasn't like playing it 342 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 10: in the industry. I can remember going into my third 343 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 10: album like, man, how am I going to make a 344 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 10: career this Because I wasn't making a lot of money. 345 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 10: I was as Andre's three thousands said live in check 346 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 10: to check, you know, if you don't move your feet in. 347 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: That. 348 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 10: So I was in that space and I just people 349 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 10: that I was like when I would come to New York, 350 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 10: I was like connecting with people and with certain things 351 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 10: would happen, Like when Daylight and Daylight reached out to me. 352 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 10: Dayla Soul reached out to me and said be on 353 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 10: this album. That was a game changer for me. Be 354 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 10: on this song that the first time I went to London. 355 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 10: The business the business on the States is high album 356 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 10: and funny story, they wanted Bizz on that song, but 357 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 10: he didn't show up or whatever. So they eventually called 358 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 10: me and I was super geek and all my friends. 359 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 10: It just was a big moment for me anyway, like 360 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 10: being accepted and being out here on the New York scene. 361 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 10: I started running into different people and I was like, 362 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 10: it's almost like being in the industry and going to 363 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 10: the to the center of that industry. I'm in the 364 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 10: music industry. But me decided to move to New York, 365 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 10: was like, Okay, now I might run into Premo, so 366 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 10: that's how I can work with Primo or when somebody 367 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 10: need me on this track, I'm around like I'm here, 368 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 10: you know, and you just never know the connections. But 369 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 10: it's being in that in that hub of where the 370 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 10: music was coming from most of the music in the 371 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 10: music industry. So moving to New York gave me that, 372 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 10: and it also did open me up to different open 373 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 10: my mind up, two different aspects of life. But I 374 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 10: was building that in Chicago, and Chicago gave me a 375 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 10: great foundation. 376 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: I wouldn't change the course of it at all. 377 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 5: Which is the record that you start to say, all right, 378 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 5: this has turned around for me. 379 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 4: Is it the light or is there one before that? 380 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 5: That's all right, here's a commercial success that everybody in 381 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 5: the quote unquote industry is looking for me to have. 382 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 10: Well, okay, the first step I would say was Resurrection album, 383 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 10: which because had I used to lover on it. And 384 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 10: the reason why I say that is because when I 385 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 10: released my first album, it wasn't any response. 386 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: Really, it was like okay, yeah whatever, And then when 387 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 4: I released I used to lover. 388 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 10: I remember Biggie doing one of those promos for me, 389 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 10: being like, yo, this I wash. This kid was from Brooklyn. 390 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 10: I remember seeing Nas and he was like keep doing 391 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 10: your thing, and so I started like realizing that some 392 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 10: of the people who didn't probably pay attention to my 393 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 10: music before it was starting to and it was those 394 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 10: greats and I was like, oh, the game change. The 395 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 10: album was like water for Chocolate because of the song 396 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 10: The Light and the reason I seen the difference. And 397 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 10: that was before I was like a well known hip 398 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 10: hop artist right like on a hip hop scene but 399 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 10: mostly underground. 400 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 4: Wasn't like I was getting radio play. 401 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 10: The Light was the first song I was like starting 402 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 10: to I got radio play and I was doing the 403 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 10: summer jams, and it was the first time I saw 404 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 10: people outside of hip hop culture singing one of my 405 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 10: songs or like even knowing who I am or caring 406 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 10: about who I am. Like I remember doing a performance 407 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 10: in seeing like young black girls singing the Light, and 408 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 10: I was like, wow, they never was singing any other 409 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 10: other music. So I saw the difference. I saw like 410 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 10: me doing top forty shows at that time and like, 411 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 10: and to this day, that's one of the songs that 412 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 10: when I performed, people know it the most, you know. 413 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 10: So that was the game change. And then I think 414 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 10: b was the one that elevated it even higher. 415 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 6: Well, b that's when that's when you connect with Yay, 416 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 6: you on a musical level, right. 417 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, when you meet him, you knew him before. 418 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 10: That, Yeah, I knew Yay and I would say like 419 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 10: ninety six, ninety five somewhere around now back then, Yeah, yeah. 420 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 4: He was. He was just out of college. He might 421 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 4: have been in college. 422 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 10: But no Id, who's my producer for those first three albums, 423 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 10: him in Twilight Tone, but no Id was one of 424 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 10: the main producers and one of my best friends. His mother, 425 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 10: Kanye's mother, doctor Dondr West God bless Us Soul. 426 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: They were they talked together. 427 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 10: They were are both educators and and she brought Kanye 428 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 10: over to meet no Ida and yeah, he was making 429 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 10: beats and he was always making beats, and his beats 430 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 10: was dope. But it was like no Idea was a 431 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 10: master at that point. So I was always like, yeah, yeah, 432 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 10: this is good, but no Idea got this and then 433 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 10: Yay were like he would he would come to my 434 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 10: basement sometimes and like battle he wanted, you know, because 435 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 10: I was one of the Chicago dudes out at that 436 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 10: sounds like nice and so he like, yo, he was 437 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 10: battling me and he could rhyme good. So it was 438 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 10: like it was just that we was cultivating ourselves and 439 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 10: I never took any I never got any beats from 440 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 10: him at that time. For me, I was like I 441 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 10: needed them drums to snap, and he was getting there. 442 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 10: But then, you know, eventually we reconnected because he had 443 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 10: moved out to New York and was living out here 444 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 10: and I started seeing him and he was like, yo, 445 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 10: let's He's like, I got to get you on my album. 446 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 10: I got everybody. He was like yeah, I said, of course, 447 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 10: I'm with it, and we just I got on his 448 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 10: song get Them High, and we were at the time 449 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 10: we had already started. We kind of like started connecting 450 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 10: on beats. Because it's funny, one of the first beats 451 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 10: I got from ya, he was already excited to make 452 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 10: some beats for me, but he was in the studio 453 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 10: session for somebody else making a beat and he told 454 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 10: me to come by and I came in and I 455 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 10: was like, what's that? What's that? He was like, oh, man, 456 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 10: that's this beat I just made. He was like, man, 457 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 10: take this beat and leave, Like like, basically, what to 458 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 10: do with this? 459 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 4: If you wanted take this? 460 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 10: And then I guess for that artist, he did something 461 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 10: else for them, but I came in and got that 462 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 10: beat and that turned out to Beat the Food. 463 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 6: So you better ask questions. 464 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 5: I'm just re even the sound of the Food on 465 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 5: some of my favorite tracks on there, the sound was incredible, 466 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 5: Like this a double question, right, So at this time 467 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 5: you're almost your twelve years into the career, but this 468 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 5: album critically came from you know, all other outlets, but 469 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 5: it's five mics. It's like at the end of when 470 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 5: five mikes was meaning something, but you got the five 471 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 5: mics and I'm sure at that time that that had 472 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: to mean something. 473 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 4: But I also want to. 474 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 5: Talk about the visuals for the project too, because not 475 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 5: only did the sound match it, but like the videos 476 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 5: that were coming from it were incredible, right, So the 477 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 5: corner right, you had Taraji stand right like it was 478 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 5: like everything was coming together at that time. What was 479 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 5: that moment, Like obviously getting that acclaim for the five mics, 480 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 5: but then like, yo, we have to match the sound 481 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 5: with the visual. 482 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: Man, five mike's meant a whole lot. 483 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 10: Like what I was telling I was telling somebody who 484 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 10: used to work at the Source, Man, we literally would 485 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 10: be making our albums like man, I want to get 486 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 10: five mics. That's something when you like creating an album 487 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 10: to get a rating. It was nothing else that like 488 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 10: no other like publications or things where we're thinking like 489 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 10: I got to get four stars five Stars and Rolling 490 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 10: Stone or this and that. It was like I want 491 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 10: five mics and a source or once double excel, I 492 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 10: want the double. So getting that recognition was like, man, 493 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 10: it meant a whole lot to me because it's just 494 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 10: as a coming from the culture of hip hop, that 495 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 10: was like that was like a gold medal. 496 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 4: That was like an NBA championship for us. They can't 497 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 4: all classic the. 498 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 10: Classic, and your goal is to make a classic man, 499 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 10: no matter what. Like even for me at that time, 500 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 10: obviously beyond record sales, I wanted a classic album. So 501 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 10: getting that recognition and it was something, man, I'll be 502 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 10: telling the story when I speak at colleges and stuff. 503 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 10: It was it was something for me growing wise as 504 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 10: a human being with that album because I was watching 505 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 10: Ya at that time while we were making b we 506 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 10: were both creating. You know, he was pretty much done 507 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 10: with college dropout. But I watched his faith in himself 508 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 10: and his confidence and was like he would be like yo, 509 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 10: listen to it was college dropout. We'd be doing listening 510 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 10: session and he'd be like, listen, this is amazing, this 511 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 10: is incredible, like presenting his music with confidence and you know. 512 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 4: Just the way I was raised, I wasn't taught to 513 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 4: do that. 514 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 10: And I felt like doing the album B was the 515 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 10: first time I kind of declared my music to be 516 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 10: great and classic and really believed it, and it got 517 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 10: classic ratings. I mean it was the music itself, but 518 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 10: the fact that I was able to say it and 519 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 10: believe in it and do it, you know, with like 520 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 10: the confidence of Muhammad Ali not trying to make some 521 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 10: arrogant and being like I'm better than you, was just like, Yo, 522 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 10: check this out. This is dope. This is incredible. So 523 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 10: that was a stepping stone for me. So that meant 524 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 10: something five mic and all that just kind of it 525 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 10: kind of solidified. Yo, man, you gotta believe in yourself. 526 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 10: You gotta speak And then you know what was the 527 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 10: second part of the course, because I forget the videos. 528 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: The video the videos was. 529 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 10: I gotta say I always used to want to be 530 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 10: dope visually, but wanting to and being able to execute 531 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 10: his two different things. 532 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 4: I think having Kanye. 533 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 10: Really helped from the standpoint of he was gonna make 534 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 10: sure I had the budget I needed, make sure we 535 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 10: got to the right director because we was I was 536 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 10: on good music. It was no like he wasn't accepting 537 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 10: nothing less than high level visuals and which pushed me. 538 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 10: And as soon as we made the corner, soon as 539 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 10: he made that like he heard that rap, he said, Man, 540 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 10: we gotta do this video on Chicago. Man, it's black 541 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 10: and white. It's gonna be cold outside when we just 542 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 10: in Chicago in the hood about and man, he directed 543 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 10: that video and we was in Chicago was one of 544 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 10: the coldest days I ever felt in Chicago. Looked like 545 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 10: I was sick already, but I was so half the 546 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 10: energy of what we was doing. 547 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 4: I just was able to get through it. 548 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 10: But it was those visions that that I got to say, 549 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 10: yay as a as a and if it wasn't him director, 550 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 10: he would try to make sure we had the right director. 551 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 10: And then by the time we got to that video 552 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 10: testify with Taraji and Wood Harris and Steve Harris, all 553 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 10: these great actors, it was like I knew that I 554 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 10: was studying acting, that I could do a story and 555 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 10: make it a film like we wanted that to be 556 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 10: a short film and Anthony Manler directed that. 557 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 9: So how did you actually transition from being a rapper 558 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 9: into an actor? 559 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 6: Like who actually gave you a first start? And how 560 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 6: does that well? 561 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: That? 562 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 10: I felt that at one point, as we talked about earlier, 563 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 10: sometimes you know, when you create music, sometimes you got 564 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 10: that I can't wait to do the next song, and 565 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 10: then sometimes you're like, Okay, I ain't in the spirit 566 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 10: to create this music right now. When I found myself 567 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 10: in those places, I said, it got to be something 568 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 10: else artistically out there for me, Like I just I 569 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 10: just knew I had to find another expression. This was 570 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 10: like late nineties. I was always in the films, going 571 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 10: to plays. I loved it, but I never knew I 572 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 10: could do it because when I first did it, when 573 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 10: I was a kid, my mother saw my play and 574 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 10: she kept talking how good my homie was. 575 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: You know your mother. 576 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 10: You think your mother will say good jobs, but she 577 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 10: was like, yo, Derek was incredible and that I was like, okay, well. 578 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: I said, yea, I saw you up there too. I 579 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 4: was like, okay, well, So. 580 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 10: I ended up not even thinking about and plus like 581 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 10: at the time, it wasn't like I ain't gonna put 582 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 10: it all on that, but a lot of it was 583 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 10: like I'm into this hip hop thing, and so I 584 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 10: wasn't thinking about pursuing it for myself. But somewhere in 585 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 10: that late nineties period, I was like, man, I want 586 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 10: to try acting. I really want to because I always 587 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 10: loved it and love watching movies and love theater. And 588 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 10: I went to acting class and the first acting class 589 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 10: I went to, I was like, man, this is incredible, 590 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 10: Like I feel that. 591 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 4: Love like that. I felt. 592 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 10: It's not the same exact as music, but it's got 593 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 10: just as much love for the art form. And when 594 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 10: I started it, so I was like, man, I got 595 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 10: to just keep going to class. So I was going 596 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 10: to class. I would be on tour every time I 597 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 10: would come back. I was just going to classes and 598 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 10: going to classes. Then the classes started going to Okay, 599 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 10: go do auditions. I was going to auditions getting turned down, 600 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 10: turned down, and ironically enough, when I was we were 601 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 10: editing the video for Testify and I had did an 602 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 10: audition for this movie called Smoking Aces, and that was 603 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 10: my first movie, and like it was the first time 604 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 10: I got a call back, and I remember going into 605 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 10: the editing room. 606 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 4: I just come from. I just come from, like the audition. 607 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 10: I still had on my suit because I was playing 608 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 10: this character that you know, it was like a bodyguard, 609 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 10: but he was sharp. So I went into that editing 610 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 10: room still geeked, like yo, and I got a call back, 611 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 10: and then it happened where I got a second call back, 612 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 10: and that's when I had to Actually I got the 613 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 10: second call back which was like, you got the job, 614 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 10: and I had to literally. 615 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 4: I was literally I was crying when I got that job. 616 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 10: I called my mother, like, yo, I got the I 617 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 10: got a movie, and it was but I had to 618 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 10: hang up that phone with all that joy and then 619 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 10: going to the hotel room next door and tell Kanye 620 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 10: I couldn't go on this tour I booked. I was 621 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 10: they had, they had promoted me in everything it was 622 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 10: with him Keisha Cole. It's probably around two thousand and 623 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 10: five or six. I don't remember the name of it. 624 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 10: It had to be two thousand and five because that's 625 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 10: when we started graduations. Maybe it's Glowing the Dark. 626 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it might. 627 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 10: I think it was before Glowing the Dark, but it 628 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 10: was anyway, it was. It was a real crazy dynamic 629 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 10: because Yay definitely was like, man, it's all good, bro. 630 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 10: Like he kind of was supporting me going into my dream. 631 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 10: And though it was some business aspects that had to 632 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 10: be maneuvered that my manager at the time, Derek made happen, 633 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 10: it was a that was my step into acting, and 634 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 10: it was good to get that love and support from 635 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 10: like somebody who I was like, man, we in this 636 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 10: partnership doing music and things, but he was like, man, 637 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 10: go pursue that. 638 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 4: That's your dream, go do it. 639 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, So that I mean that I remember that with 640 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 5: the announcement when you got smoking aces, because that leads 641 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 5: to just right, yeah, which is now you're not just 642 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 5: like a role, like you're the lead. 643 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 4: That's the lead. 644 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 5: You and the queen, right and obviously Cuba had done 645 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 5: it at the time Will had done it. I was 646 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 5: to queen Latifa had done it pac obviously and now 647 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 5: the other guy that is having a lead role in 648 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 5: a movie you cried the first time. What was that 649 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 5: reception like when you got the call to say like, nah, 650 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 5: you're not You're going to be the lead actor in 651 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 5: this movie now. 652 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: Man, I was. 653 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 10: That's one of them calls where you as soon as 654 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 10: you get the call, you start going into like training mode, 655 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 10: meaning I was. 656 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 4: I was. 657 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 10: I was super excited because Queen Latifa is a very 658 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 10: talented actress and she just people love her and people 659 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 10: show up for her movies. And for me, it was Wow, 660 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 10: I'm about to be a leading man in a film, 661 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 10: and I hadn't had that opportunity. I played all these supports, 662 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 10: the roles, so I felt the pressure. 663 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 4: To be honest. 664 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 10: My first days of filming, I wasn't doing good, and 665 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 10: they had talks behind the cameras about like, are we 666 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 10: gonna keep this dude on for this? And I remember 667 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 10: it was the scene that Queen or Tief and our 668 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 10: characters had sitting in this jazz club, and it just 669 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 10: was something about the scene that felt good to me. 670 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 4: It was natural. 671 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 10: Ween, you have a lot of dialogue, and from that moment, 672 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 10: the director was like and the producers like, that's all 673 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 10: we need, just do that. What I didn't know at 674 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 10: that time was like in a romantic comedy, people are 675 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 10: mostly themselves in a romantic comedy, right, like they bringing 676 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 10: more the essence of just them. It's not like you 677 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 10: disappear in a character in a romantic comedy. 678 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 4: Most of the time. Like you know, when you see Heath. 679 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 10: Legend as the Joker, God bless his soul, he it's 680 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 10: the Joker. But when you see like Matthew mcconnie in 681 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 10: in a in a you know, a romantic comedy, or 682 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 10: you know, even like what Queen Latifa did before, it's 683 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 10: like it's some of the elements of herself when she's 684 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 10: doing set it Off. That's a different thing. You understand 685 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 10: what I'm saying, y'all understand, like it's a it's you 686 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 10: gotta go deeper in those dramatic roles or those characters 687 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 10: where you're creating a whole character romantic comedy. They they 688 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 10: want you to bring more to essen to blight. I 689 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 10: didn't know that, and I was trying to do something 690 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 10: else in the first days, and then eventually I just 691 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 10: had to let go and be like, okay, cool, because 692 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 10: one of my favorite things about acting is be becoming 693 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 10: somebody else in different ways, you know, like like and 694 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 10: I love when I'm watching a movie when somebody's watching 695 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 10: the movie that I'm in, it knows me and they say, man, 696 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 10: I ain't even see Rashid in that, I ain't even 697 00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 10: see you in that. 698 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 4: I saw this I saw the sir. 699 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 10: Ivy or or Cassie and from you know, from John 700 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 10: Wick two, I see Robert Simms. That's a compliment, Well 701 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 10: how do you because from you know, yeah you can 702 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 10: play yeah who because that's part of the role. 703 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 4: That was that was part of the role. That was 704 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 4: part of the role. 705 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 10: And I made sure that my stunt double didn't getting 706 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 10: you know, I was like, you know, there was no 707 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 10: way I was gonna go back home to Chicago and 708 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 10: they see a stunt double in the movie where I'm 709 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 10: playing a basketball because it. 710 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 6: Wasn't double for basketball. 711 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 9: So but from an actor standpoint, like I've heard actors 712 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 9: say they struggled with getting out of character, like when 713 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 9: you go that far into character, have you ever been 714 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 9: in that vibe with I thought, who was it? 715 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 6: Somebody said it took like. 716 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 9: Six months for them to actually get out of the 717 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 9: character and it actually caused a lot of problems in 718 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 9: their life. 719 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 6: Might have yeah, I think said that. 720 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 10: I definitely have had times where you know, it took 721 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 10: me time to get out of the character, mostly while 722 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 10: I'm filming, meaning like I come home with some of 723 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 10: that energy and I've time. 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Who did you 802 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 4: call it during those times? 803 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 5: And was there somebody in the dustry that was a confidant? 804 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 4: Right? 805 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,439 Speaker 5: Like like I said, those the cubes of the world 806 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 5: that they're from hip hop, but they're in the in Hollywood. Like, 807 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 5: are those people that you were able to call and 808 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 5: reach out to during these times for advice? 809 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 6: Well, I mean I still had an issue with you the. 810 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 4: Specifically were gonna get to that. We're gonna get to that. 811 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 10: By then we have resulted. By the time I was acting, 812 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 10: we had resolved that. But a lot of times it 813 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 10: would be cast members. Like even on the film American 814 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 10: gangst I didn't have no real like like I wasn't 815 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 10: like going through it or whatever. But jen Zel was 816 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 10: like guiding and helping and giving me gems, like and 817 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 10: giving us gems. 818 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 4: And I really respected that. 819 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 10: The fact you know, this is Denzels is crazy. It's 820 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 10: like I worked so hard to get that role because 821 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 10: I tried out for the role that Isses had and 822 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 10: they liked me, but they was like no. 823 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 4: Then I tried out for another role and they like, 824 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 4: you're too young. 825 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 10: And I went and made another just tape, another audition tape, 826 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 10: and in the casting director was like, man, you dope 827 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 10: and and you passionate, We're just gonna cast you as 828 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 10: this to y'all's father. And I was like, okay, I'll 829 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 10: take it. I'm eight years older than them, but I 830 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 10: could do it as an actor. It's funny because you know, 831 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 10: for a long time, see I would see me and 832 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 10: be like Pops, like, oh man, this is gone too far. 833 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 10: But you know, I was grateful that Denzel was sharing 834 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 10: information with us. That's what you want, like from somebody 835 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 10: who's that gifted and you know, just a legend a 836 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 10: guru in it to give you you know, that wisdom. 837 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 10: And Ruby D was on that set too. I was 838 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 10: just watching her and just being like, God bless us. 839 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 10: So she was a master. I was like, I'm this 840 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 10: is you know. I took that bro I got that role, 841 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 10: and I literally only had about four lines in the movie. 842 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 10: But I knew I would be throughout the movie like 843 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 10: learning and I was gonna be on set with Denzel 844 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 10: Washington and Ruby D. And it was like some of 845 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 10: the great lessons I have as far as those times 846 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 10: when I was going through stuff, only mostly the actors 847 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 10: around me that I would you know, talk through with 848 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 10: stuff or therapist, you know. But ultimately acting was great 849 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 10: for therapy, you know, like it's a therapy in itself 850 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 10: because you you are releasing some of that energy if 851 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 10: you're going through those scenes, whether you're crying at home 852 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 10: or crying on the set, you're getting it out or 853 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 10: that anger you getting it out. That was one of 854 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 10: the things that I always would tell people, like, man, 855 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 10: this has been a good thing for me because when 856 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 10: I'm dealing with all this stress, I get to release 857 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,959 Speaker 10: it through these characters through this artistic expression. So yeah, 858 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 10: and most death I'll say most Death is somebody who 859 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 10: acting wise that I was able to talk to a 860 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 10: little bit about acting because he's a he a brilliant actor. 861 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 4: He is like he is super dope. 862 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,240 Speaker 6: Well speak speaking of most Death from the music side. 863 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 9: You know, you guys, most people will look at as 864 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 9: conscious rap, right il quality most of yourself? How has 865 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 9: that been? Because sometimes people don't want labels or titles 866 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 9: because they feel like it boxes them in and it's 867 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 9: limits them from doing like just being a person, like 868 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 9: they might want to do something that's not necessarily conscious. Right, So, 869 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 9: how has that title as far as being a conscious 870 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 9: rap or how have How has that blended with you? 871 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 4: Well, it's been. 872 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 10: You know, I went through a journey with being called 873 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 10: a conscious artist because at first, when they first said it, 874 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 10: I was like, man, why they calling me that life? 875 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 10: You know, like, you know, like because it did put 876 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 10: me in a box. And I'm like, man, I like women, 877 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 10: and I like drinking and automatically if you you know, 878 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 10: if you put in a conscious box, they expect you 879 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 10: to just be like only talking about a side of 880 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 10: the court or you know, or the Panthers and and 881 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 10: Malcolm Xell, You're always gonna be serious. In fact, like 882 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 10: being on tour, I would meet girls and that's all 883 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 10: they wanted to be. 884 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 4: Like, look, I like having fun. Man, let's kick it. 885 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 4: Let's st. 886 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 10: Ain't gotta stay heavy though, so I and and I 887 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 10: think too, to our own fault, we fell into that 888 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 10: box and it and it separated us from other artists 889 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 10: like the jay Z's or the dmxes, and you know, 890 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 10: we weren't like working with those artists. And I felt 891 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 10: like at a certain point, Yay Kanye was one of 892 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 10: the bridges for that because he did put freeway in 893 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 10: most step on the song, you know, or he was 894 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 10: like rapping some things that was like artistic and his 895 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 10: music is very artill. And he was throwing up the 896 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 10: rock sign, throwing up the you know and having this 897 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 10: rock and Feller chain. 898 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 6: You know, he blended those two. 899 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 10: Blended those two worlds, and it was like a reminder 900 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 10: that man were not separate. 901 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 4: It's still all our culture. It's all us. 902 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 10: And like I have been around jay Z and kicked 903 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 10: it with him and blah blah blah. 904 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 4: So why just because they lave me as conscious do 905 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 4: I need to. 906 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 5: Feel like when he said I was gonna how validating 907 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 5: or is it a gifting the person He says. 908 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,959 Speaker 6: I want to rap like common said, are you are. 909 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 5: You saying to yourself? Damn, this dude just said he 910 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 5: wants to rap like me. Or you're like, he's still 911 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 5: putting me in the box a little bit like, how 912 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 5: did you. 913 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 4: Respond to that? That's thinking the same thing. 914 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 10: I love that he said that because I mean at 915 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 10: that point for me to even be in his thoughts 916 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 10: of while he's writing a song, I mean that he 917 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 10: recognizes me as an artist, that is valuable. And for 918 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 10: him to say Jay is brilliant as Jay Z is 919 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 10: as a business man, he's also an artist. So for 920 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 10: him to say, man, truthfully, I want to rhyme like 921 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 10: common sense, he expressing one thing about him and dope 922 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 10: enough He's like, he expressed what I be the feeling like, man, 923 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 10: why don't we do it more of this? Like we 924 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 10: could feel more than one thing about certain situations. He saying, Look, 925 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 10: I want to rhyme like this dude and have some conscience, 926 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 10: but I want to get paid to money. 927 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,240 Speaker 4: I'm doing fire I did fire man, I'm selling records. 928 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 4: I'm not listen. 929 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 10: That's cool, But these dudes and the truth is we 930 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 10: weren't selling like that, so that was you know, his 931 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 10: path and his choice. I felt good that he that 932 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 10: he mentioned me because like at that time, I remember 933 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 10: my cousin calling me like, damn, Jay Hope mentioned you, bro, 934 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 10: you made it? 935 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 6: You Did you get that from people like that? 936 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 9: You might not, like you said, like when you saw big, Like, 937 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 9: did you get that from people that you? 938 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 6: Was like, yo, I really appreciate it. 939 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 9: They might not have things publicly, but it's like they 940 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 9: talk to you and they like you kind of know 941 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 9: like that they do want to tap into that, but 942 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 9: for whatever reason they're not. 943 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean when you get that 944 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 10: from from the artists that you really appreciate, even something 945 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 10: that you like, Damn, you appreciate my music? 946 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 4: You like my music? 947 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 10: Damn, that's crazy, Like you you know, you feel good 948 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 10: about it because man, like you want to be respected 949 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 10: by people you love and your peers and people you 950 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 10: fans of so and and you also understand like, man, 951 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 10: they have this other path and desire and vision and 952 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 10: qualities that may get them to a higher level commercial wise. 953 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 10: But you know, once you for me, once you start 954 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 10: embracing like this is who I am that's when things 955 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 10: started to thrive for me. 956 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 4: Was like I wasn't trying to. 957 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 10: Be like Biggie or Nahs or Daylight even you know, 958 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 10: all them inspired me like Daylight Tribe Day, but I 959 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 10: once I found my voice. At first it was like like, Okay, 960 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 10: I got all pieces of these, but then I started 961 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 10: to be like, Okay, I got influences by these inspiration, 962 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 10: but I got my voice now. So yeah, these artists 963 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 10: are these artists that can make dope hip hop but 964 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 10: still reach high levels of radio play, and I just 965 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 10: accepted that for that and being like, Yo, I'm an 966 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 10: artist that's gonna do these creative things. I'm gonna go 967 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 10: out there and do live performances and rock. The people 968 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 10: may have a song that get on the radio, may not, 969 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 10: but I guarantee you that I'm gonna make some music 970 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 10: that you're gonna listen to twenty thirty years and now 971 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 10: and hopefully hundreds of years now. 972 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 5: That's the fact I think the transparency, even when he 973 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 5: says it, it's like I dubbed down my audience a double. 974 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 5: My daughter'll all criticized for it, but y'all, y'all holla. 975 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 5: So it's like, what do I do the fact that 976 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 5: you're making music that it's sending in a test of time. 977 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 5: Like I said, B is incredible. That was five mics. 978 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 5: Love is my favorite track sometimes I just put that 979 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 5: on just because the way you're talking about love and 980 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 5: how it manifests in different ways. But fine forever, I 981 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 5: think it is equally almost it's right there. It's on 982 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 5: the Cuss south Side on there, the people's on there. 983 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:29,399 Speaker 5: Yay's is the producer for pretty much the most both albums, right, 984 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,959 Speaker 5: And so that's like the traditional model of hip hop 985 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 5: where you have one producer produced the whole project. And 986 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 5: obviously throughout your career you've changed that. You no I 987 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 5: d started at first, then you had Ya, and now 988 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,240 Speaker 5: you're back to Pete Rock doing predominantly the entire album. 989 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 5: Talk about that process of going back to the traditional 990 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 5: ways where you had your one producer and we're going 991 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 5: to make the click this together as opposed to the 992 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 5: allmatic way, which is a classic classic. But I'm getting 993 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 5: the best five producers that I can find to make 994 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 5: this manifesto. 995 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh. 996 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 10: I'm one of the first to acknowledge that Jay Diller 997 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 10: on be and Finding fact did like he did that 998 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 10: love his song and he's one of the greatest producers 999 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 10: and ever live and also inspired Yay and many others 1000 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 10: like Pete Roy. Making an album with one producer or 1001 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 10: two at the most, for me has been my my 1002 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 10: way of operating because like, I like creating sounds with 1003 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,800 Speaker 10: the album, the albums that I've loved throughout my years. 1004 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 10: When I you know, when they say what album would 1005 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 10: you take on an island? Like Off the Wall by 1006 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 10: Michael Jackson is one of my favorite albums, you know, 1007 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 10: Lawrence Hill's mis Education, myb Deep, the Infamous, you know, 1008 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,240 Speaker 10: like these are some albums that will be with me forever. 1009 00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 10: That being said to try Midnight Marauders, like these albums, 1010 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 10: like were they created a sound like Purple Tape? 1011 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Purple That's something that's definitely five mics. 1012 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 5: Yes, Tribe is the first group to have three five 1013 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 5: mic albums and like Marida's low End Theory in their 1014 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,399 Speaker 5: first time yep, wow, yeah, I never knew that they 1015 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 5: got three. 1016 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 10: They well they for me, they well deserved. It's like 1017 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 10: earth Winding Fire is one of my favorite groups. E 1018 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 10: and Tribe is the earth winning fire hip hop to me. 1019 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 10: Fact Yes, Sir Resting Piece to Fight and Maurice's wife 1020 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 10: for Earth Winning Fire. So I'll say, man like I 1021 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 10: like locking in with a producer because it gives me that. 1022 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 4: Man. 1023 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 10: We start bonding and creating and talking and going through stuff, 1024 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 10: and we started developing a rapport, a collaboration, a sound communication. 1025 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 10: Like it's just like me, ain't got it, ain't gonna 1026 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 10: always be perfect, but it's about getting Like real creativity 1027 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,720 Speaker 10: is about getting to know each other and then getting 1028 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 10: into a certain vision and being able to create that 1029 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 10: vision and like iron sharpens iron, y'all get better. And 1030 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 10: that's what Yay did. That's no idea did it from 1031 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,800 Speaker 10: the beginning. That's what Questlove as an executive producer, and 1032 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,280 Speaker 10: Jay Dillar did for my arm like water for chocolate. 1033 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 10: And that's what Pete Brocket's done where we just get it. 1034 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,720 Speaker 10: With this new album, Auditory in Value one, we wouldn't 1035 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,240 Speaker 10: we wouldn't have created something to me with the level 1036 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,720 Speaker 10: of quality if I wasn't going out to his crib 1037 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 10: and like him playing records and being, oh, you like that, 1038 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,879 Speaker 10: and then along with that just watching his dog and 1039 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 10: go around the house. And then we're talking about life 1040 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 10: and talking about therapy and talking about like man when 1041 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,360 Speaker 10: he first started doing this stuff and like took me 1042 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 10: all that shape up into creating the best work. You know, 1043 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 10: and you ain't doing it for that. You ain't You 1044 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 10: ain't like faking the conversations. But I'm just saying that 1045 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 10: type of bond. It's like any teams when we watched sports, 1046 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 10: some of them teams were just able to reach that 1047 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 10: level because they was able to connect to as people. 1048 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 10: That's why Phil Jackson had them handing out books to 1049 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 10: them and doing like having them sit down and put 1050 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 10: the thing in the fire and all like those are 1051 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,319 Speaker 10: the things that you can't let Those are priceless things 1052 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 10: about connection that come out in any project that you 1053 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 10: were doing together. 1054 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,439 Speaker 9: So, like, let's talk about Chicago because music, I think 1055 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 9: music hip hop has served as like a tour guide 1056 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 9: of a city when you like, before I got to LA, 1057 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 9: I had an idea of what LA was like from 1058 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 9: listening to Snooping Dog Found, and then when I got there, 1059 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 9: a lot of the stuff that I thought was going 1060 00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 9: to be La wasn't La, and it was kind of 1061 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 9: a different perspective. But it's the same thing with Louisiana. 1062 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 9: Cash money, like you saw. I saw the visuals of 1063 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 9: New Orleans and the hot video, and that's what I 1064 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 9: thought New Orleans was, right, So it's like Chicago. I 1065 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 9: always loved going to Chicago because I feel like that 1066 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 9: downtown is like one of the most beautiful downtowns, right 1067 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 9: on the water. It's the vibe, the food, everybody's like, 1068 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 9: it's just good energy. But of course there's issues, but 1069 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 9: I feel like a lot of it. When once drill 1070 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 9: became very popular, the image of Chicago changed, right, And 1071 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 9: so what's your thought process as far as how Chicago's viewed, 1072 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 9: Because most of the time when you say Chicago, people 1073 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 9: were like, it's dangerous, stay away while you going there. 1074 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 9: It's just a very negative connotation from at least black 1075 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 9: people when they think about Chicago. And then drill music 1076 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 9: has definitely played a part in that for sure, and 1077 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 9: so like and drill has went over the world, London, 1078 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 9: New York, everybody's doing drill now. So what's your thoughts 1079 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 9: on Chicago's reputation as far as violence linked with drill music. 1080 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 10: Well, I think drill music wouldn't have been able to 1081 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 10: come about if Chicago didn't have that type of angst 1082 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 10: and type of like if parts of Chicago didn't have 1083 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 10: the violence that we have. That was the expression of 1084 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 10: with Dirk with Reese or Chief keef Man. They was 1085 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 10: them dudes is from a really tough neighborhood in one 1086 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 10: of the toughest neighborhoods in the world, and they were 1087 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 10: talking what they've been exposed to and what they know. 1088 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 4: And it's really powerful. 1089 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 10: How like we as black people, and I say black 1090 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 10: and brown people really, but how we all right take 1091 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 10: some of the heaviest things, the most difficult situations and 1092 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 10: make something golden out of it. Because Drill is a 1093 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 10: they created a sound and it's like influenced the world 1094 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 10: and it's dope. But as you said that, it's other 1095 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 10: sides to Chicago that I feel like. 1096 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 4: People don't know. 1097 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 10: And I mean, if you think about it, sometimes people 1098 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 10: got a tendency to come from the glass half empty 1099 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 10: mentality anyway, like, oh you hear that story. So it's 1100 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 10: just like you generalize that's what it is, that's all 1101 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 10: it is. And I can understand why you would think, like, man, 1102 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 10: if that's what it is, I ain't going to visit 1103 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 10: that place. But once you touch down or just even 1104 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 10: open your mind. 1105 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 4: Because there's other artists that expressed what Chicago. 1106 00:59:53,280 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 10: Is too from early on Loop Chance Chance No Name, 1107 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 10: like they talk about it, but like just did different 1108 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 10: artists they talk about a chance to show the whole 1109 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 10: nother side of Chicago. 1110 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:17,439 Speaker 4: That what you say, yeah, yeah, but why do you why. 1111 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 9: Is Chicago Because there's a lot of cities that poverty 1112 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 9: is is pretty much in every city unfortunately, Right, what 1113 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 9: makes Chicago so different as far as the the violence, 1114 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 9: Like why is the violence so heavy in Chicago as 1115 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 9: opposed to New York or like you know what I mean, 1116 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 9: Like it just seems like Chicago is just really intense 1117 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 9: in that in that violent aspect. 1118 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:41,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think. 1119 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 10: Like gang culture and I know gangs is just everywhere, 1120 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 10: but for us, like gang culture was part of our 1121 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 10: parents growing up, Like the gangs was existing in the 1122 01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 10: in the sixties, right, so that warrior spirit has been 1123 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 10: like in our DNA. And I'm not saying that it's 1124 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 10: gangsters everywhere, but that being said, it was organized for 1125 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 10: a while and then it's you know, certain people got 1126 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 10: incarcerated and and and it was not a lot of 1127 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 10: leaders there to like guide those who were dealing with 1128 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 10: the gang. 1129 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 6: Culture, and they displaced people when they. 1130 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 10: To throw the buildings down, displaced people. But it essentially 1131 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 10: you know that warrior gang thing is is ingrained in us, 1132 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 10: and that's part of like one of the elements that 1133 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 10: I would say it's different from most because where you 1134 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 10: got where it's poverty, where it's lack of jobs, where's 1135 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 10: lack of like education and kind of overall lack of hope, 1136 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 10: you gonna get that. Like you can go to Brooklyn, 1137 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 10: you can go in certain places in Harlem or Atlanta 1138 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 10: or like where you can go to these neighborhoods in Oakland. 1139 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 4: And you feel that what you feel in Chicago. 1140 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 10: But I think it's intensified just by the gang culture 1141 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 10: that's been there for a long time. And man, I 1142 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 10: always be thinking, like one of my whole life missions 1143 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 10: has been to be a part of the peace in Chicago, 1144 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 10: like to really figure out, like man, because I don't 1145 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 10: have all the answers, but I do know creating jobs, education, 1146 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 10: like education from a level not just only in school, 1147 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 10: but providing people with ways to get to their dreams 1148 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 10: and stuff is important. And just like hope, man, Like 1149 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 10: hope is a broad thing. But it's like I grew 1150 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 10: up like my neighborhood. Ain't ain't far from where dirkdam 1151 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 10: grew up my neighborhood, or where ge Herbo and Bibbie 1152 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 10: grew up. I grew up around some of the same stuff. 1153 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 10: But it was the hope that my mother instilled that 1154 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 10: I saw for myself that made me say, Okay, I 1155 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 10: don't want to go too. 1156 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 4: Far over there. 1157 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 10: I might be around this, I might be, you know, 1158 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 10: banging with these guys over here for a second, but man, 1159 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 10: I ain't really trying to shoot nobody. That ain't that's 1160 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 10: too much for me, like, and that ain't what I'm on. 1161 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 10: So my point is, and that was because I felt 1162 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 10: like I was I had some value and I think, 1163 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 10: you know, I like to think about the solutions to 1164 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 10: help our city and in cities across the country. 1165 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:35,920 Speaker 4: To be honest, that's crazy. 1166 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 5: As you're saying that, I'm listening to the line that 1167 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,439 Speaker 5: you said used the game right in the shop. 1168 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 4: We're even rooting for a garbage tine. 1169 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 5: But so like the picture that you've painted, I mean, 1170 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 5: it's been pretty consistent, Like you've you've painted a narrative 1171 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 5: that's different from the one that's being portrayed. Whether it 1172 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 5: was on your world or whether it was on the. 1173 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 4: South side of the Shah. 1174 01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 5: It's a different perspective, but it's a mature perspective as 1175 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 5: you're growing. You talked about the music, we talked about 1176 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 5: the acting. Obviously you're an author as well. Who starts 1177 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 5: or are you doing this on your own to say 1178 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 5: I need to diversify artistically through music and through the acting, 1179 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 5: But now the author is something different. Are the other 1180 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 5: things that you're getting more adept to or being made 1181 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 5: aware of inside of the world As you're your finances 1182 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 5: are starting to increase, you're making more money, Like is 1183 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 5: there somebody gotten you through this or are you just 1184 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 5: walking in the rooms and you seeing new opportunities. 1185 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 10: Now it's like one thing I learned if I was 1186 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 10: gonna make it in this business and and and pardon me, 1187 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 10: I should have said this earlier. Another thing that definitely 1188 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 10: helped me to continue in this business is constructing a 1189 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 10: great team. 1190 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:57,440 Speaker 4: And that for me, I was like, oh man, okay. 1191 01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 10: My manager at the time was one of my best friends, 1192 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 10: still great, Like Derek Dudley, he was He's a smart 1193 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 10: dude and he just knows business and knows how to 1194 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 10: handle cares about this, But when it came for us 1195 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 10: to really get into the acting world, I had to 1196 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 10: get an agent that is in that world, living in 1197 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 10: that world. 1198 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 4: Right. 1199 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 10: So then when it came to doing voiceovers, I had 1200 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 10: to get a voiceover agent who was in that world. 1201 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 10: When it came to doing investments, you got to go 1202 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 10: get the person that is going to do that. Oh 1203 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 10: when it comes to marketing and development, well, if you 1204 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 10: don't go hire a firm, do you have somebody that 1205 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 10: will focused on those things, even if it's from a 1206 01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 10: consulting perspective. And it was me understanding that first of all, 1207 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,800 Speaker 10: I don't know everything. I might have some ideas, but 1208 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 10: it's other people with great ideas around me, and along 1209 01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 10: with ideas, who are the people that can execut those ideas? 1210 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 10: And it was about building that team structure. And it 1211 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,320 Speaker 10: continues to grow too, like because new things come up, 1212 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 10: Like I got into producing films and producing plays, and 1213 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 10: I had to get a structure for that because if 1214 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 10: you don't have somebody working over there, and that branch 1215 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 10: of work is not going to get maximized. 1216 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 4: You know, it's not going to reach the levels that 1217 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 4: you want. 1218 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 10: Even from philanthropic like my social activist. I have a 1219 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 10: team that works like so it's not just like Okay, 1220 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 10: I'm just gonna do everything that comes through or Okay, 1221 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 10: we got these things going and that's it. That focus 1222 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 10: has to be there every day like any other business. 1223 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 10: But this is a business is not for monetaries, for 1224 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 10: the people, so it got to be there and that 1225 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,240 Speaker 10: got to be somebody heading that. So that is what 1226 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,520 Speaker 10: to me has allowed me to continue in the business 1227 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 10: too and figure other ways. But also it's not coming 1228 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 10: off from me, you know. 1229 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 9: From a hip hop hip hop question, we talked about 1230 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 9: like you being categorized as a conscious rapper, but you 1231 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 9: also obviously have Looking at your battle with Ice you, 1232 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 9: I'm wondering what's your perspective on seeing what now would 1233 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 9: be considered a conscious rapper and Kendrick Lamar have a 1234 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 9: battle with the most popular rapper and win and now 1235 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,640 Speaker 9: he's actually ascended to like the number one position. It's 1236 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:39,480 Speaker 9: an interesting dynamic right where his music is in the 1237 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 9: vein of positivity, revolutionary, but he's still dangerous, dangerous, right, 1238 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 9: So like do you got do you have like some 1239 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,919 Speaker 9: like pride in seeing. 1240 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 6: That put the flag down? Shout out to Drake No 1241 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 6: disrespect to Drake, but I'm just saying. 1242 01:07:55,720 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, well listen, let me okay, let me answer those things. So, 1243 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 10: first of all, Kendrick is a masterful artist, like one 1244 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 10: of the greats. Before the Battle, he like he won 1245 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 10: a polar surprise for raps. You know what I'm saying. 1246 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 10: That's how great of a writer he is. And each 1247 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 10: one of his albums have been different, unique, dope like 1248 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,519 Speaker 10: you know, and that's what it is to do. One 1249 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,440 Speaker 10: of the greatest in any generation. Drake is one of 1250 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 10: the most talented songwriter artists to do them to do music, 1251 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 10: man like, one of the most successful to be able 1252 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 10: to make songs like at that level and be making 1253 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 10: hits over and over. That says something because even pop 1254 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 10: artists that they had some big hits, they don't last decades. 1255 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,640 Speaker 10: So Drake is a super talented dude. The Battle, I 1256 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,519 Speaker 10: gotta say, I was like, man, Initially, I was like, Wow, 1257 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,920 Speaker 10: this is real. These dudes was going at it because 1258 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 10: Drake was delivering. And then Kendrick came and then Kendrick 1259 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 10: kept giving them flows and he just like did what 1260 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 10: he had to do, and just man, he came out 1261 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 10: the victor. He was a victor, like this point blame 1262 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 10: he won and it's is it like if you're asking 1263 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,680 Speaker 10: it's a victory for me, I think it's just a 1264 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 10: victory for hip hop that that battle went down the 1265 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 10: way it did and had people paying attention to lyrics 1266 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 10: and hip hop, like different generations was paying attention to that. 1267 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 10: Like I had some of my youngins hitting me up like, yo, 1268 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,679 Speaker 10: you hit a new one. And then people my age 1269 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,439 Speaker 10: hit me up like, yo, you hit what you know? 1270 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,879 Speaker 10: You hear what Drake just dropped? You know what Kendrick said. 1271 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 10: I think it does. I love that Kendrick is within 1272 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 10: a battle, is able to give you like lessons and spiritual. 1273 01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 4: Damn, not just but the truth. That truth is. 1274 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,799 Speaker 10: It's like this dude dropping like knowledge and still battling. 1275 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 10: It's like ridiculous. But that being said, it's funny you said, 1276 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,280 Speaker 10: like some he's a revolutionary and still dangerous, because when 1277 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,720 Speaker 10: we think about it, our revolutionaries were dangerous, like like 1278 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:24,600 Speaker 10: Fred Hampton Chicago, he was dangerous, like but dangerous for 1279 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 10: the right thing. Shoot, Malcolm Max dangerous aside, I should 1280 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,840 Speaker 10: call dangerous in a wait that they are dangerous for 1281 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,599 Speaker 10: their people. And at the end of the day. Kendrick 1282 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 10: is dangerous for his people, so I got nothing, but you. 1283 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,719 Speaker 4: Gotta protect them. Love for protect our people. 1284 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,120 Speaker 5: How much did it make people go back and revisit 1285 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 5: old battles, because right once they say that battle, it's like, oh, 1286 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,200 Speaker 5: that's the greatest battle of all time, and we're living 1287 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 5: in that moment and people are like, well, nah, there 1288 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,599 Speaker 5: was this either thing that happened. It was like, nah, 1289 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 5: there was like I see the bitch of you. So 1290 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 5: now it goes back, people get to revisit it. How 1291 01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 5: much of it was brought back like a little bit 1292 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 5: of nostalgia for you. Yeah, we were in that moment. 1293 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,599 Speaker 5: We've grown past it, but like I remember that fire 1294 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,640 Speaker 5: that I. 1295 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,760 Speaker 10: I mean, it was more like people was bringing up 1296 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,640 Speaker 10: the battle I have with Cube and the battle I 1297 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 10: had with Drake. 1298 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the fact they brought that up. They would 1299 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:16,320 Speaker 4: bring that up. 1300 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 10: But I was like, listen, first of all, we both 1301 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 10: those battles got squashed this now, so I appreciate that 1302 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 10: y'all loved it. We had the battle. I was worn 1303 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 10: at that time, but you know, I'm just watching the 1304 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:34,000 Speaker 10: battle now, so don't drag me in. And somebody was like, yo, 1305 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 10: I was like, no, don't drag me in. I'm good man, 1306 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 10: let me let me watch this and just enjoy because 1307 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 10: they both going in and I think it was I 1308 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,040 Speaker 10: would have to say, man, it probably was the greatest 1309 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 10: battle we've seen. But and even if you feel something 1310 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,400 Speaker 10: else was back in the time, it's still one of 1311 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,719 Speaker 10: the greatest, Like you know, it's it's like it because 1312 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,679 Speaker 10: that back and forth we you didn't have that much 1313 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,120 Speaker 10: back and fourth flight right direct and have all the 1314 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,120 Speaker 10: artwork to go with it, and it was levels today 1315 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:06,200 Speaker 10: back we thought out. 1316 01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:10,040 Speaker 9: Videos shots they were doing ten minutes later he dropped. 1317 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 4: The joints stepping on each other's tracks. 1318 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,040 Speaker 6: That was definitely crazy. 1319 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,479 Speaker 4: And now we got the Super Bowl. 1320 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 9: I mean, will anticipate on some hip hop like not 1321 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 9: who's the best artist, but like who do you think 1322 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 9: of the most Like who's some of the most dangerous rappers? 1323 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 9: That because I heard Nas when he was saying like 1324 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 9: he used to fear Big L, so like Big L 1325 01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,800 Speaker 9: never really reached the level of success that people. You know, 1326 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 9: he's not on nobody's like top five, but like as 1327 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 9: far as the rappers, rapper. 1328 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 6: He's highly respected. 1329 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,040 Speaker 9: So like, who's some of the people on your list 1330 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 9: that like you just like you know that these dudes 1331 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:50,800 Speaker 9: is just different with the. 1332 01:12:50,760 --> 01:13:01,720 Speaker 10: Pin Andre three thousand, Nas Kendrick of my old the 1333 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 10: older guys I grew up with, like Big Daddy Cane 1334 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:10,639 Speaker 10: and carrous One rock him. Let me see who else 1335 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,639 Speaker 10: those I mean, those are some of the ones. Sahai, 1336 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 10: the Prince, the Press, he he gets he one of 1337 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 10: them guys. When you hear him dropping bars, You're like, Wow, 1338 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 10: this dude can say some stuff. But as far as 1339 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 10: the ones I just said, Kendrick and Andre three thousand 1340 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 10: and two are like ones. When I hear I'll be like, 1341 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:37,400 Speaker 10: oh nas Nas for me is like that shot. 1342 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,719 Speaker 5: Who's we always do a Mount Rushmore of a city 1343 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:42,439 Speaker 5: shot towns Mount Rushmore. 1344 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 10: Okay, if I'm gonna take myself now, you gotta be myself. 1345 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 10: I'm putting you on it now. This is the other 1346 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,719 Speaker 10: slock put it in. Okay, so it's four people, it's 1347 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 10: me Kanye. I'm gonna put Twister and probably Dirt Dirt. 1348 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,920 Speaker 9: I was gonna say, Dirk, Damn, they're gonna be like 1349 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 9: what Sosa shout out. 1350 01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 6: To Sosa, Dirk's I think it has been more consistent, 1351 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 6: has been. 1352 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 5: Like revolutionized that at sixteen, like Sosa that sound comes 1353 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 5: in after him. 1354 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 6: He did, but then Dirk took that. He ran it. 1355 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 6: He ran it. Yeah, he's carried it for almost ten 1356 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 6: years now. 1357 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,519 Speaker 4: He been consistently. Now he's the guy we're not going to. 1358 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,639 Speaker 4: We're not going to. That's good, that's a good yeah. 1359 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:30,360 Speaker 4: I mean I know chances like we're about we about 1360 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,000 Speaker 4: to get a text message after this too. 1361 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,839 Speaker 5: But anyway, I gave my food and Liquor is another classic. 1362 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 6: So what can people expect from this project with you 1363 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,719 Speaker 6: and Pete Rock? Is it? Is it nostalgic to the nineties? 1364 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 6: Is it new? 1365 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,599 Speaker 9: Like what's the what can they expect to hear when 1366 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:48,879 Speaker 9: they when they when. 1367 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 4: They get this. 1368 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,640 Speaker 10: I think I think it has both those things you 1369 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 10: just mentioned, because it has the spirit of what we 1370 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 10: love in the nineties, like just the spirit of the music. 1371 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 10: But the sound is new, Like don't sound like okay, 1372 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,720 Speaker 10: all these drums is oh, like Pete could have made 1373 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,840 Speaker 10: the beats back in ninety In the nineties, it's got 1374 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 10: the textures in the in the sound and equality and 1375 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:18,040 Speaker 10: approach that is present day. It don't sound like something 1376 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,960 Speaker 10: he's done or anything like I've done, and I'm rapping 1377 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,599 Speaker 10: about what a grown man would rap about right. 1378 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,680 Speaker 6: Now, Well that's thank you to thank you. 1379 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 9: That's a good thing because that's one thing I liked 1380 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:35,639 Speaker 9: about NAS's journey is that he's like, life is Good 1381 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,479 Speaker 9: is one of my favorite albums. Like he's talking about 1382 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 9: his divorce. It's things that you It's like saying jay 1383 01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,040 Speaker 9: Z for for four. What I don't like is when 1384 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 9: some of our hip hop artists they're still rapping about you. 1385 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:49,639 Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying. 1386 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:55,400 Speaker 9: It's like it's like it's like, yo, your grandfather's being 1387 01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:59,479 Speaker 9: wealthy and longer than you've been. Just like that's what 1388 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,360 Speaker 9: I don't That's what I don't like to see is 1389 01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 9: like age appropriate rap. 1390 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,720 Speaker 5: I think is man, if we listen to you when 1391 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,759 Speaker 5: we were teenagers and now we're grown, you're grown too. 1392 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,080 Speaker 9: Because you got to you gotta you're grown too because 1393 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,639 Speaker 9: you have an audience that is listening for that reason. 1394 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,280 Speaker 9: Like if you forty or you fifty, you don't want 1395 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,439 Speaker 9: to listen to what a twenty year old is. 1396 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,719 Speaker 6: Like there's the twenty year olds make me for twenty. 1397 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 10: Year old exactly exactly, and if some of those songs 1398 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,719 Speaker 10: end up like hitting it for twenty year old's song 1399 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 10: end up hitting other age groups. That's great or you know, 1400 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,120 Speaker 10: but I don't. I don't believe. I don't believe. And 1401 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 10: even when I made I used to love her. I 1402 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,679 Speaker 10: was talking about like just man, being authentic to who 1403 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,480 Speaker 10: you are and where you are, not chasing what everybody 1404 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,440 Speaker 10: else is doing. I think when you see older artists 1405 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 10: trying to sound young or just getting all the young 1406 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 10: artists so they could be cool, it just don't feel 1407 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 10: it's good. You feel out so and I love that 1408 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,519 Speaker 10: it that man, we can't talk about like you said 1409 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 10: nas on life is good, we talk about divorce or 1410 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 10: you know, shoot, I mean you've heard artists talk about 1411 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 10: therapy or like these are things that man, as we grow, 1412 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 10: we talk about these things, and I think one thing 1413 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:18,160 Speaker 10: we forget. 1414 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:19,640 Speaker 4: You said it a little bit Jo. 1415 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,840 Speaker 10: It's like, man, we growing up, like the audience growing up, 1416 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 10: so we don't want to hear you talk about something 1417 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 10: we used to do when we was twenty year years old. 1418 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,240 Speaker 4: Either. We rather hear you talk about something grown and 1419 01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 4: just say it in the fresh way. 1420 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,240 Speaker 5: My kids are graduating from high school, like, y know, 1421 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:37,840 Speaker 5: these things are happening Bro, he's happening. 1422 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,800 Speaker 4: Bro, I'm buying a house right now. Man. 1423 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 10: Man and people that's dope, Like Andre three thousand, like 1424 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,320 Speaker 10: he be making stuff sound good. 1425 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 4: It could be. I remember he did a rap about 1426 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,800 Speaker 4: being in the line and whole Food that was fire am. 1427 01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:54,720 Speaker 4: It's like brunch on Sundays. 1428 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,639 Speaker 5: We actually go to brunch on Sundays, Thanks NASA exactly. 1429 01:17:58,720 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 4: That's it. 1430 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 10: So I love that approach and that's what this album. 1431 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,679 Speaker 10: This album is. When I when I I had quest 1432 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 10: love from the from the Root sequence, the album the 1433 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,680 Speaker 10: Pete Rock and Our album, and when he heard it, 1434 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,360 Speaker 10: he was like At first, he was like, man, it's 1435 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:13,439 Speaker 10: one of your best albums. 1436 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 4: Man, it's in your time. 1437 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,759 Speaker 10: I was like really, and he's like yeah, and he said, 1438 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,559 Speaker 10: this is what the album should be from somebody that's 1439 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,679 Speaker 10: adult in hip hop. 1440 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,600 Speaker 4: This is what it's just say, adult contemporary. 1441 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, tradition. Somebody's asking me how I should it be? 1442 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,759 Speaker 10: Category rise, Like, what do you think is a good category? 1443 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,560 Speaker 10: I'm like, hip hop? This adult contemporary hip hop, traditional 1444 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 10: hip hop. 1445 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:40,160 Speaker 5: But yeah, when you was twenty, you rapped like you 1446 01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:40,599 Speaker 5: was twenty. 1447 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:44,720 Speaker 4: Yeah your fifth rap like that? Bro? Yeah, shout out 1448 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:45,679 Speaker 4: to you. Thank you. 1449 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, well I appreciate it. 1450 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,080 Speaker 4: I appreciate you, my guy, thank you. 1451 01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,160 Speaker 5: I'm glad I got to tell you in person how 1452 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,920 Speaker 5: much I love being That meant a lot. 1453 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 4: Twenty years next year, Yeah, can we get one show 1454 01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 4: just the album? 1455 01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was going to ask you are you going? 1456 01:18:58,560 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 6: Are you going on tour? 1457 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, gonna have to do a be like twenty year. 1458 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,400 Speaker 5: I'm just telling you that I might be at multiple 1459 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,240 Speaker 5: shows and if you need me to do a few verses, 1460 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,680 Speaker 5: you ready, you know, like verbatim? 1461 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:13,840 Speaker 4: You ready? Okay straight? 1462 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,360 Speaker 6: Are you gonna hit the road for the new album? 1463 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:15,640 Speaker 4: Oh? 1464 01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, We we're on tour right now. Actually be the 1465 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,000 Speaker 10: auditory in Volume one tour we're doing we now we 1466 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,800 Speaker 10: ending it off in New York. Got some shows at 1467 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,000 Speaker 10: the Blue Note that sold out, but now we're doing 1468 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,479 Speaker 10: Webster Hall. It's just dope. So man, I'm excited that 1469 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,040 Speaker 10: the tour has been amazing. I can't wait. I can't wait. 1470 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:34,639 Speaker 6: Thank you. 1471 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,000 Speaker 9: Like Troy said, man, somebody that we listened to for 1472 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,920 Speaker 9: a long time and never compromised the art. 1473 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 6: That's that's important. 1474 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 9: So I think that that's that's something that you know 1475 01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 9: the legacy is gonna live forever and definitely classic timeless music. 1476 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,520 Speaker 9: So thanks for all of the inspiration. 1477 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,760 Speaker 4: Thanks y'all. Thanks, it's been great to be here. It's 1478 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:57,400 Speaker 4: beautiful man. 1479 01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 9: Thank you all right, guys, thank you for Rocke next week, 1480 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:01,840 Speaker 9: who is an. 1481 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 1: Illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child in Massachusetts. 1482 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 1: An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador accused of 1483 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 1: murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with filming and 1484 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:18,000 Speaker 1: selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just some of 1485 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,760 Speaker 1: the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President Donald J. 1486 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 2: Trump's leadership. 1487 01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm Christy nom the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. 1488 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 1: Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are at the 1489 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:35,600 Speaker 1: lowest levels ever recorded, and over one hundred thousand illegal aliens. 1490 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 2: Have been arrested. 1491 01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,840 Speaker 1: If you are here illegally, your next you will be 1492 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,760 Speaker 1: fined nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. 1493 01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 2: You will never return. 1494 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,720 Speaker 1: But if you register using our CBP home app and 1495 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,719 Speaker 1: leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 1496 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 2: Do what's right. Leave now. 1497 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,800 Speaker 1: Under President Trump America's laws, border and families will 1498 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,639 Speaker 3: Be Protected, sponsored the United States Department of Homeland Security,