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Speaker 1: officially if you're keeping track at home, and I hope

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Speaker 1: that you are, the second edition of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five version of the best podcast available on this field.

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Speaker 1: Behind me the d lineman, the linebackers worked out on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night on this concourse right now. It's Gibbe, Jason Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Ceciliato salad or.

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Speaker 2: Five here for the next like seven days.

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Speaker 1: Gibbe decided to come to the combine but chose not

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Speaker 1: to work out, thank God. However, you are getting steps

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Speaker 2: Dude, still rocking, Okay, I'm averaging about ten eleven thousand steps.

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Speaker 1: It's great, yeah, which should should help his draft stock.

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Speaker 1: He's potentially growing one of the three meals I from

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Speaker 1: undrafted up to a potentially Day three priority free agents.

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Speaker 1: Still a chance, but likely Gibbe has gotten into to

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Speaker 1: Day three A right, Let's talk about the quarterbacks, because

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks were on the podium Friday morning as we

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Speaker 1: are taping this. Shortly thereafter, everybody wants to hear about

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Speaker 1: Cam and Shador. We will set this up for you.

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Speaker 1: They both took the podium at the same time. So

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Speaker 1: there's a media center, all the assembled masses there with

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Speaker 1: microphones and cameras. Ready, They're like eight different podiums, so

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Speaker 1: they come through position by a position wide receivers and

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Speaker 1: then you had the room evenly divided Shadoor, Sanders and Cam.

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Speaker 1: At the same time. I didn't even realize that, by

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah he was. He was a podium four for

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Speaker 2: six and eight. Yep, the party central at nine am

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Speaker 2: this morning. So let's break down Shador.

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Speaker 1: First, we were both listening to Cam, but I've gone

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Speaker 1: through the Shaudor transcript and seeing all the videos here

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Speaker 1: first and foremost very different personalities. Yep, right, Cam, pretty serious,

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Speaker 1: playful way, I think with the media, and he said listen.

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Speaker 1: I turned it around to Jackson state I we also

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Speaker 1: speaking of his father and everyone the transferred with them

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Speaker 1: did the same thing at Colorado. I believe I can

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Speaker 1: do that. This is my track record at the next level.

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Speaker 1: Whomever drafts me and said, if you don't want to

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Speaker 1: turn it around, then basically don't get me. Wasn't specifically

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Speaker 1: referring to the Browns anyone near the top of the

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Speaker 1: also said, and I found this interesting, Gibbie, that you know,

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Speaker 1: if you doubt him, He said, if you don't think

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Speaker 1: I want of the best quarterbacks in the draft, then

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Speaker 1: that must be some hate for the family, and said,

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Speaker 1: you're just using my name against me and not looking

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Speaker 1: at the film and seeing what I've done and how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he won the room. Yes, it's the

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Speaker 2: million dollar smile. Absolutely, and he knows how to work

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Speaker 2: the room. Definitely took the PR classes from his father

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Speaker 2: and probably from his fantastic PR reps. I mean he

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Speaker 2: He could have stayed there till for you know, normally

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was still there forty five minutes in.

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Speaker 1: He said all the right things he did, and look,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a quick quarterback. No one knows

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Speaker 2: He said, if I'm not successful in the pocket, I'm

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Speaker 1: And made the point and someone said, what would you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, he was great. He's a film junkie.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he said. He didn't do the VR thing, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: He said. The only difference between a first round pick

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Speaker 2: I like that mentality. He knows what he has to do.

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Speaker 2: He's gotten better as a vocal leader, but he still

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Speaker 2: So he was impressive today.

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Speaker 1: It was a quiet confidence. It was not the sarcastic,

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Speaker 2: He was amazing for forty five minutes and I had

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Speaker 1: Beyond impressive. Revealed that he is rooming with Will Howard

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Speaker 1: here the Combine for whatever that is worth. Just a

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Speaker 2: Great moment on the podium too, when Howard replaced him

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Speaker 2: Justin FeelA got all excited about it. He was snapping

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Speaker 2: For a gibbee for Fela and for our next guest.

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Speaker 2: He is the new offensive coordinator of your Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: This guy was here last year as the Browns tight

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Speaker 2: end coach, had just gotten the job. Now Tommy Reese

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Speaker 2: is here as the Browns new offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for doing the pod.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on here, looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: How's it different this year for you?

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Speaker 3: You know, in the role.

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Speaker 4: Now you know you really have your hands on all

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Speaker 4: getting to know the players that you spend so much

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Speaker 4: really exciting. And you know, obviously we have a ton

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Speaker 1: Part of the process is getting to know the big

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is like a first impression.

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Speaker 4: You know, you get you know sometime with them, probably

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Speaker 4: This is almost that first impression, you know, early introductory

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you to rank your quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to put you in that spot, but generally,

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Speaker 1: how have the quarterback meetings? Goal?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really positive. I think you know, these guys now

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Speaker 1: Is it too much? Is it scripted?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think that's the balance that you want

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Speaker 4: everybody's done a nice job preparing for this, and their

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Speaker 4: you know, you get them in their comfort level when

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Speaker 4: you turn on their film, they get to start talking

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Speaker 4: So they've all done a really nice job. Obviously they're

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Speaker 1: Where it struck me. And just as we tape this,

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Speaker 1: I'm just coming from the podium where all the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: did their media availability Friday morning. Is the wide range

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Speaker 1: of personalities, right, Yeah, I mean shot or stor He's

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Speaker 1: got to add on backwards. It's that permanent smile. He's

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Speaker 1: jousting with the media cam. Very serious, right, He's worked

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Speaker 1: hard to be there. He's proud of his accomplishment in

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Speaker 1: There's Will Howard smiling sad I want talk about Michigan

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Speaker 1: to be here to talk about the combine. There's Kyle Becord.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he and Kevin shared the same high school. I'm

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Speaker 1: there's kind of something for everyone.

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Speaker 4: Right, And I think when you look across the NFL

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Speaker 3: We need to evaluate these guys.

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Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to those steps of having guys,

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Speaker 1: Real quick? Here on your experience in Indianapolis, because I know,

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Speaker 4: Look, everybody that has anything to do with the NFL

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Speaker 4: No, I mean I think there is of like you know,

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Speaker 3: We want to enhance it.

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Speaker 4: We want to look at how the game's evolved, how

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Speaker 1: The combine is going to continue through this weekend. The

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Speaker 2: I think it might take four to two oh, just

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Speaker 1: Thank God. Highlight for me of the combine Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: Browns linebacker coach Jason Turvor doing his thing down on

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Speaker 1: Like see Tommy Reese down there screaming on Saturday, the

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Speaker 1: NFL Network broadcast noted on Thursday night, please get Jason Aricola.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was ready last Friday. I saw

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be doing the coaching thing again. He goes,

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Speaker 2: I've got it all mapped out. I've been working on

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Speaker 2: I know the drills, I've got everything mapped out. I'm

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Speaker 2: I love everything about it because I get a chance.

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Speaker 2: If we don't talk to him, Yep, I can talk

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Speaker 2: a pretty important position I think to address here in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think Shamar Stewart got all the headlines. Jason Tarver,

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Speaker 1: of course, stole the show on Thursday evening, So this

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Speaker 1: here for the Combine. Listen. We can do probably ten

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Speaker 1: more hours on the Combine. We will, however, throughout this

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Speaker 1: Tommy believe it or not, in less than ten days.

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