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Speaker 1: Welcome back to all the smoke. Jack it's been a minute. Broad.

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Speaker 1: Last time I seen you, your brains were like two

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Speaker 1: inches shorter on the back of your neck and you

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Speaker 1: came dripped and yeah, I heard him snapping. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: good to see you. See you man today, we got

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Speaker 1: a good one. Everybody knows how much I'm into politics

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Speaker 1: and policy, and when I got the call from my

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Speaker 1: come on, Chris and John, we got some cool shit

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Speaker 1: coming with him. We'll tell you about that later. But anyway, man,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. The Governor of California, Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 1: my guy. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's my guy.

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Speaker 1: Guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that's my guy.

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Speaker 1: I want to get this out the way, off the rip.

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Speaker 1: When you were mayor of San Francisco, What the hell

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Speaker 1: were you thinking when you made April twelfth, two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight, Stephen Jackson Day.

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Speaker 3: See what they don't know is I was in the

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Speaker 3: community waiting for all the George Floyd if I've been doing,

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Speaker 3: I just don't know.

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Speaker 4: Tell look at that, look at that hanging out and

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Speaker 4: bay View Man, Western Edition.

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Speaker 1: We were everywhere.

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Speaker 4: That's it, man, community. See, he was a community leader,

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Speaker 4: not just a leader on the floor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't see it. You didn't see him after dark.

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Speaker 1: But I feel you.

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Speaker 4: No, you're just aw You're all rob But I didn't

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Speaker 4: do one for you.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: You know, depending how this thing goes, maybe I can

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Speaker 4: do one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, state ain't no telling.

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Speaker 3: And the basketball court is still there as well. We

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Speaker 3: had we did a basketball court to the city.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, tell us about that day and how special

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Speaker 1: it was to you because we were creating this rundown

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Speaker 1: and Jack's like, you know, he gave me a day.

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Speaker 1: I was like, huh, yes, I remember you telling me.

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Speaker 2: About to Nita Berry that was working for the Warriors

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Speaker 3: When I got there, I was coming from a situation

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Speaker 3: where I got some trouble and then it was helping.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to clean my image up and I was

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Speaker 3: already already doing stuff in the community, and Oakland just

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Speaker 3: felt like a bigger port. Author went out the textas

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Speaker 3: it felt like a big home to me. So I

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Speaker 3: just got in the community, start doing things and it

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Speaker 2: I wanted to donate the court, giving.

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Speaker 3: Stuff back and I was on it, uh, by you

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Speaker 3: and the city, and it was just something that I

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Speaker 3: never thought I have. But as of today, I have

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Speaker 3: four days in four cities, four different states. Can we

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Speaker 3: get a little.

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Speaker 1: Much. You set the tone, right, Yeah, he set the tone.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of like monopoly. Maybe you can turn those

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well you know you have.

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Speaker 2: Upgrade four keys to four cities to four states.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yea what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I love that. First of all, I love that you

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Speaker 4: remember that. But also those days were fun. We started

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Speaker 4: literally going to Bayview and we did something I remember

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Speaker 4: not March Madness. And it was with the Mayor's office,

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Speaker 4: nothing else. Uh, But it was also about bonding with

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Speaker 4: I come from nine four one two three. That difference three.

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Speaker 4: I mean, come on night and day man from the

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Speaker 4: It was one of my last stops is as a

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Speaker 1: I love it. How's life? I mean every day you

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Speaker 1: wake up fighting a good fight. You're doing the hell

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Speaker 4: I mean we're fighting. Man. Yes, I can't take what's

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Speaker 4: going on. I mean, nobles, I can't take it every

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Speaker 4: DEM's versus Republicans, about this country and what we stand for.

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Speaker 4: Me they're literally putting American reverse, I mean quite literally

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Speaker 4: to a pre nineteen sixties world. You got the Supreme

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Speaker 4: and that's very real. That may likely happen in just

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Speaker 4: and historical facts. It's an unsucking believable moment. All this

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Speaker 4: anti woke stuff is just anti black period, full stop.

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Speaker 4: All the CRT ESG DEI stuff, that's all this is.

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Speaker 4: It's this great purge and it's happening in real time.

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Speaker 4: And I'm just I'm sitting here and I feel like,

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Speaker 4: We're not calling this out, we're not drawing a line here.

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Speaker 4: And again, it's not about Democrats or Republicans. It's about

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Speaker 4: who we've right. Wrong, man, Yeah, goddamn wrong. Daylight in darkness.

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Speaker 1: I feel like anytime you want to make it harder

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Speaker 1: to vote, that means you can't stand and win with

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Speaker 4: Period. I mean, look, come on, where do we even

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Speaker 4: unpack this? Jesus, Oh, come on, I mean, this is

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Speaker 4: this is exactly why the President United States did something

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Speaker 4: the governor of Texas and he says, I need five seats.

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Speaker 4: And this unprecedented. Never has a president of the United

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Speaker 4: because I'm quote unquote entitled to them for exactly the

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Speaker 4: reason you just said. Because he knows he's losing. He

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Speaker 4: And that's precisely what he did. Successfully. They got five

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Speaker 4: seats out of that, and we had a decision to make.

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Speaker 4: We can hold a candili visual, we could talk about

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Speaker 4: the way the world should be, I can write an

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Speaker 4: proposition Prop. Fifty. But also you've seen it with my

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Speaker 3: We had some great memories when we were in Oakland.

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Speaker 2: We had some great times.

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Speaker 3: The city was totally different twenty twenty five of the

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you. I mean a couple of years

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Speaker 4: Everybody came up there, went around and did this little

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Speaker 4: I just have two words, and I said, what are they?

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Speaker 4: Goes Smith and Wesson. I'm like, damn, he goes, I

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Speaker 4: can't take a governor. You need to send more police.

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Speaker 4: This is out of control. And this from a person

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Speaker 4: It's out of control. And we did that with their permission,

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Speaker 4: our values, our core values, doesn't mean we walk away

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Speaker 3: It's a two part question. We know it's a lot

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Speaker 3: What are some things that they can do to bring

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've known Oakland for fifty years. Man. I

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Speaker 4: I spent so much time in Rerin City from the families.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I'm one of my closest friends, Marshawn Lynch,

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Speaker 4: walking the streets, going on these bike rides with Marshawan,

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Speaker 4: which is a whole another Who's who's that? Who's that

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Speaker 4: You can't legislate spirit, you can't legislate pride. Got to

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Speaker 4: manifest it to your question, and that's what's been missing

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Speaker 4: I mean, I joke about it with you guys, and

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Speaker 4: And I grew up the Ricky Henderson, my god, my

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Speaker 4: But I'm buying the Warriors. I'm like, and I'm moving

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Speaker 4: said so when's Ellison? He says, no, Ellison didn't buy it.

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Speaker 4: I know who the new group. Well, I didn't know

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Speaker 4: no city has been devastated like and it was looking

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Speaker 4: it was a city that punched above its way too.

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Speaker 4: Oh right, I mean, how the hell? I mean the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: So that's my second cousin, branch.

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Speaker 4: Is that right? Yeah, yeah, see that's next level, mate.

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Speaker 4: You should have started with that. It will give me credibility.

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Speaker 2: That's when they moved to Wars.

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Speaker 3: For a lot of us guys that was there doing

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Speaker 3: like you know, it's like what about those people?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: That's that's that's why when that's the only thing I

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Speaker 1: It became a business. I mean, it's the warrior is

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Speaker 5: Before illegal said this is the face talk about that

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Speaker 4: But you know, it's interesting. Uh what you just said,

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Speaker 4: it's so interesting, no bs. When Marshaun went back left

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Speaker 4: year at Oakland, he literally, I'll never forget. I said,

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Speaker 4: And that's what sports. Look, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 4: forgive me. But this sort of red, white and blue

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Speaker 1: Before we leave the Oakland conversation, best we Believe memory

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Speaker 1: got some? But do you have any? No?

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Speaker 4: Look, I mean, you know, I just I think about

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna fron definitely find those photos, no question.

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Speaker 4: But it's but oak it was you know, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: But I mean, like I remember the idea even got

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Speaker 4: And that's just community building, man. And that's not a

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Speaker 4: inability to keep your door open. The idea that you know,

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Speaker 1: Started him, started him, Why g young? What was you?

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Speaker 4: the stands. My dad's back up there, okay, and it's like, man,

433
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Speaker 4: and then he's bringing his friends and your captain of

434
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Speaker 4: the team, and you're like geez, you know, and it

435
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 4: just saved me. And it got me into college baseball.

436
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 4: I was like, I got a zero scholarship, but it

437
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 4: was the ticket, man. I was going to College of marine,

438
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 4: it's going to JC. Man. You know, I was ninety

439
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Speaker 4: sixty or nine eighty on my s A T and

440
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Speaker 4: that was cool. Like my mom's like it's okay, it's

441
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Speaker 4: okay to be average. Not sure that was the best

442
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Speaker 4: thing to say.

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Speaker 2: Something that was good.

444
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you wasted.

445
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Speaker 1: I think you get They couldn't. They couldn't average x

446
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Speaker 1: three scores to get.

447
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: My basketball. I average couldn't get my score. That was crazy.

448
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 4: So anyway, it got me into college. Man. So I'm

449
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 4: I'm here for two reasons. I'm here because of my

450
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 4: mom but and her her everything, but in politics from

451
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: this one guy Willie Brown, and and and because of sports,

452
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 4: which just gave me a sense of confidence. I didn't

453
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Speaker 4: have anything else. And so it's not I'm not bullshitting

454
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Speaker 4: you when I say the value I place. I mean

455
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Speaker 4: the value obviously you guys professionally and success and everyone

456
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 4: next level. But for me, just success at that level,

457
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 4: to stay out of trouble, to give a shit about

458
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 4: my teammates and not fuck up and not sitting there,

459
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Speaker 4: you know, smoking krakatoa whatever those you know back in

460
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Speaker 4: the day, like those weird ass cigarettes or smoking you

461
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Speaker 4: know whatever. Just kept me from getting this.

462
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Speaker 2: My question though, before we go on compare a player

463
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Speaker 2: that's your game was like.

464
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Speaker 4: I've the worst two people in my head. Uh he

465
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 4: just driving me great.

466
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Speaker 3: Uh well, as you said, you like Chris Mullin, but

467
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Speaker 3: that don't mean your game was like you, oh what

468
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: you said you want to.

469
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Speaker 4: Make I don't want to make sure that much, my

470
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 4: little eighteen footer. You know you don't buy it.

471
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Speaker 1: So you had Jimmy No.

472
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Speaker 4: I mean, I look, I was Will Clark was my

473
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Speaker 4: baseball hero, and I just tried to through. I mean,

474
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: I just I used to videotape. I have eight track

475
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 4: tapes like hundreds of or whatever, the VHS S tapes

476
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: of just him just editing every bat and just studying it,

477
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 4: just studying that sweet swim from the left side. And

478
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Speaker 4: then in basketball, I was, I just I was, you know,

479
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Speaker 4: it was more of a Danny Ainge tyme. Okay, just scrap.

480
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Speaker 2: Well we got yeah, you got to have everybody loves.

481
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Speaker 4: And he's just you know, kind of in your face

482
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Speaker 4: and just diving at the balls, just going. But I like,

483
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: you know you had that with Bird too. Man, That

484
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 4: dude would just slide. So when I see someone slide

485
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Speaker 4: jump in the stands.

486
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Speaker 1: You love it?

487
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Speaker 4: I love it.

488
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Speaker 3: I for five points drafted me. So you're saying all

489
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Speaker 3: the stuff related that.

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Speaker 1: Let let to check you.

491
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Speaker 4: No what I think it is time for that key.

492
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Speaker 4: We're gonna trade that day. I don't know its ecided

493
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Speaker 4: about you.

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Speaker 1: We might have to get that ancestry dot com n

495
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Speaker 1: I l A lot of people don't know that you've

496
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Speaker 1: brought to life the fair Play Act. Can you explain

497
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Speaker 1: how that came about and process?

498
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Speaker 4: Could you apologize everyone watching?

499
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Speaker 1: Well, I think I mean in fairness to you. I thought,

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Speaker 1: and we all thought, obviously athletes should be compensated for

501
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Speaker 1: what they're bringing to the table, for what the schools

502
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Speaker 1: have been making off of our backs and not touching. Obviously,

503
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Speaker 1: Ed Obannon is a brother of ours. I think right

504
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Speaker 1: now it's got to where it's kind of the wild

505
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Speaker 1: wild West. But at the same time, I think it

506
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Speaker 1: has to be something because at the end of the day,

507
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Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of student athletes don't go pro So no.

508
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Speaker 4: For all those reasons. I signed it, and it's interesting.

509
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Speaker 4: I signed it with Lebron on the shop. It's kind

510
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Speaker 4: of wild. I brought the bill. I've never done that

511
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Speaker 4: and did it with him, which was wild on every level,

512
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Speaker 4: but it was important and Ron and his team were

513
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Speaker 4: unbelievably helpful and helping us get it across because we're

514
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Speaker 4: the first in the country to do And it was

515
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Speaker 4: all just this notion had I on name, image, likeness,

516
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Speaker 4: and I didn't know about the portal. I didn't you know,

517
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Speaker 4: didn't fully appreciate it.

518
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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that right?

519
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the phone starts ringing?

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Speaker 1: Is that?

521
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a cush up. That's the portal.

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Speaker 1: Fucking age God, yeah, finish his thought.

523
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Speaker 4: No, it's but it's uh it morphed. I mean the

524
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Speaker 4: last couple of years into something wildly different, I mean,

525
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,239
Speaker 4: radically changed college sports and increasingly high school too.

526
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Speaker 1: It.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but now they're right sizing it. They're sort

528
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Speaker 4: of trying, they're figuring it out. It's I think it's

529
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Speaker 4: sort of finding itself and we're finding our path back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there needs to be some regulations in

531
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Speaker 1: the portal. You know, I think I remember back in

532
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Speaker 1: our days, if you transferred, you had to sit out

533
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Speaker 1: a year whatever. And I don't want to be that drastic,

534
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: but your kids shouldn't be playing for four different teams

535
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Speaker 1: in four years kids shouldn't We're also going to talk

536
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: kids shouldn't be twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight. Excuse me,

537
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: those are grown men I'm talking about, but still in

538
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: college playing and taking the opportunities away from seventeen and

539
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: eighteen year old because to me, college is supposed to

540
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: be a development stop and obviously a free education for

541
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Speaker 1: athletes that get their scholarship, you know, hopefully spawn off

542
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Speaker 1: into the next level. And one thing that's really bothered

543
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Speaker 1: me obviously, I'm a father with kids. You know, I

544
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: got four sons coming down the pipeline. But you see

545
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight year old dudes playing sports, Like,

546
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Speaker 1: come on, bro, like go get your education. The shit

547
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Speaker 1: is over, you know. I mean, so, I just feel

548
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Speaker 1: like there needs to be As a father, I feel

549
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Speaker 1: like there needs to be an age limit to be

550
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Speaker 1: able to play sports. And I understand put some people

551
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: go on missions and all this kind of stuff. I

552
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: think it should be an age limit. I think there

553
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Speaker 1: should be some porter regulation. And then, like you said,

554
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: the Nile, the money side is starting to kind of

555
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: regulate with what the schools are getting. But again, I

556
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: think overall, it was a great idea and it just

557
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: needs some more boundaries.

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Speaker 4: No total exploitation, man. I mean these coaches getting twenty

559
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 4: five million dollar contracts, these kids on food STAPs, making

560
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 4: millions and millions of dollars for programs, blowing it up

561
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 4: with broadcast and advertisers, everybody making a buck. And then

562
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: these kids, to your point, ninety nine percent are never

563
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: going pro and this is the best thing that may

564
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: happen financially them. Sure there may be an academic please,

565
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 4: I mean, let's have that conversation, right right, they're student athletes,

566
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Speaker 4: really student athletes for these division. Come on, it sounds good.

567
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: So it's Look, it was the right thing to do.

568
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: Obviously it was a race, and that everybody now is

569
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Speaker 4: competing in that respect. I mean, look, my biggest concern

570
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: about college sports is I think it's inevitable that it

571
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 4: gets privatized in some respects. You got private equity that's

572
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 4: looking to buy out teams, buy out these things. I mean, this,

573
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Speaker 4: it's all it's morphin in. My bigger concern with four kids,

574
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Speaker 4: and I'm curious the two of you with your children

575
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Speaker 4: is and it's not an indictment, but I've got four

576
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: kids all in club sports and how that's become goddamn

577
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: professional pretty many?

578
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the hell is that?

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I don't get it because I think we all did

581
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Speaker 1: the same. I grew I lettered in force sports in

582
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Speaker 1: high school, and I went from one sport to another sport,

583
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: to another sport to another sport. But now in this

584
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: day and age, if you play outside of your main sport,

585
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: you almost get behind. But then at the same time,

586
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: a lot of these kids burn out either turn of

587
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: someone sent me something the other day or just this morning.

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Speaker 1: Where the top five kids in class of twenty twenty two,

589
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Speaker 1: was that it? And if the top five kids in

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Speaker 1: class of twenty twenty two only one of them in

591
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Speaker 1: the NBA, and those are the top five players, money

592
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: and everything, And it's just like there's I think when

593
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Speaker 1: you make it a job too early and it becomes

594
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Speaker 1: a job, it's a beautiful job when you get to

595
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Speaker 1: where he and I rat and it's the business and

596
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: you get paid, well, it's a job. But I feel

597
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Speaker 1: like parents now are some are vicariously living through their kids.

598
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Speaker 1: But it's twelve months for kids, and that's too much.

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Speaker 1: You can't force the gift e though.

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Speaker 3: You can't force a gift, like, if it's gonna happen,

601
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: it's gonna happen, you know what I mean. Support your

602
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: kids whatever they want to do, get behind them one

603
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: hundred ten percent. But you can't force what God has

604
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Speaker 3: as for them. It don't work like that. And a

605
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: lot of parents are doing it. It's passed living through

606
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: their kids. They're trying to force something to happen that

607
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Speaker 3: might not be meant for their kids, right and that

608
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Speaker 3: and that kills kids confidence, That kills their motivation and

609
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Speaker 3: kill it kills every all the drive that they have

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Speaker 3: to be something in life because you're forcing me to

611
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Speaker 3: be something. It's not what I want to do. And

612
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Speaker 3: I'm putting all my time in it. Now I'm successful.

613
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: Now I'm not successful in it. I'm crushed. Kids confidence

614
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: is crushed. So the parents got to stop doing that.

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00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: That's what I think they're doing instead of it more

616
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Speaker 3: just living through them. They're trying to force something to

617
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Speaker 3: happen that they ain't meant to have.

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Speaker 1: And one more thing too, before we get off this topic,

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Speaker 1: I think to the coaches in it, aren't coaching anymore.

620
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: It's a money play now and everyone will and I

621
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Speaker 1: get you want to win but we came in it

622
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Speaker 1: and I feel like we're falling behind. And as you know,

623
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Speaker 1: Black Americans and baseball. In basketball, it's becoming an overwater game.

624
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Speaker 1: Like it's just like everyone wants to make the money

625
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: off the tournament and make the money for the fees,

626
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Speaker 1: but you're not teaching the kids how to play the

627
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Speaker 1: essence of the game we grew up loving. Again, it's

628
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Speaker 1: it's it's more of a business now at a younger age,

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Speaker 1: which is which is hurting our kids in the long rund.

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Speaker 4: How the hell do you? I mean, I get three sports?

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Speaker 1: How the hell do you have four? Track? Footballast baseball?

632
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Speaker 4: So you did the track I knew they.

633
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Speaker 1: I figured football, baseball, all American football and basketball, but

634
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: tracking baseball, I just did it just out of trouble.

635
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Speaker 4: Is it not the case?

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Speaker 1: Too?

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Speaker 3: American softball was nice softball?

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Speaker 4: Damn good? Like just whatever it is.

639
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Speaker 1: Something like it, maybe not him, but something like him,

640
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: something like that.

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00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: Okay, let's unwind that. But it's but also part of

642
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: that is you're you're you're you're now bringing in to

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Speaker 4: wherever you land in terms of that sport that is

644
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 4: the one you're excelling at most. You're bringing in those

645
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 4: skills and the attributes from those other experiences that otherwise

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Speaker 4: you wouldn't have. You get the footwork from a soccer

647
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: player in the basketball you see.

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Speaker 1: This from foot ball? Yeah, all of it.

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00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: No, but that's a well, the whole club thing is something,

650
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Speaker 4: and just the money in that space and then in

651
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Speaker 4: knocking out from a socio economic perspective, locking out folks,

652
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Speaker 4: it simply cannot afford all that travel, cannot afford the

653
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Speaker 4: hotel rooms, can't afford, the time off work, can't afford

654
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Speaker 4: the private seems like everybody in the club day has

655
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Speaker 4: a damn private trainer.

656
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Speaker 1: And a lot of these trainers ain't done ship in

657
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Speaker 1: their life to be able to be a trainer.

658
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Speaker 3: Got cut from the Church league, yo, all that you

659
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Speaker 3: made you made the Church league team.

660
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Speaker 2: They've got cut from the.

661
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Speaker 1: Church charging one hund one hundred and fifty dollars an hour? Like, bro,

662
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Speaker 1: what's your accolades?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 1: I'm not hating on any what's your accolades? To be

665
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Speaker 1: charging this much?

666
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Speaker 4: One couldn't by the way, master.

667
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Speaker 2: Can cross fit?

668
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Speaker 3: Okay, you know we call we raced you to the

669
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Speaker 3: name YG. Let's get to your og. Willie Brown, you said,

670
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Speaker 3: I'm standing here because of Willie Brown.

671
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Speaker 2: That was a simple pointment that changed the trajectory of

672
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Speaker 2: my life.

673
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Speaker 4: You explain that, I mean, come on, he fucked me out.

674
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: I was running a small business, got right out of

675
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 4: call pt pen to paper. I had thirteen investors seventy

676
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 4: five hundred bucks each, open a little business with a

677
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: part time employee, Pat Kelly, who just passed away. She

678
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: was with us for almost thirty years and just was grinding,

679
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: happy but complaining about doing business in San Francisco. And

680
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: I was in the newspaper saying, the hell's going on

681
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 4: this new mayor Willie Brown ain't done shit for small business.

682
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 4: It's bullshit that all. And then get a phone call

683
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 4: says the mayor would like to have you down a

684
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: city hall. It was around would like to say he

685
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: would like to appoint you to the film Commission. I'm like,

686
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 4: how do you the commission?

687
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Speaker 1: How old are you at this time?

688
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: Early twenty five, twenty six, And I'm like, film com

689
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: I've died and gone to heaven, got my little business,

690
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: and I'm going to be in the film Commission. I

691
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: love movies. Get down there to get sworn in. About

692
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 4: fifty people he's swearing a bunch of commissioners and he

693
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: goes and Gavin newsom DA DA DA the new chair

694
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: of the Parking and Traffic Commission, And I'm like, what

695
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: the hell just happened? I had no idea what chair

696
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 4: even like the president of Parking and Traffic a real job.

697
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 4: And I'll never forget kron for News was there and that,

698
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 4: you know, like, which was a big deal to me

699
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 4: back in the day. They asked me my vision on

700
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Speaker 4: parking and traffic. I'm like, dude, I like, if that

701
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: tape ever you want hit pieces? Do you think that that?

702
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 4: I mean, that original interview is pretty much going to

703
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 4: end any prospects I have for anything else and inspiration desperation. Man,

704
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there, I'm chairing it. And nine months later

705
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: there's a vacancy on our county Board of Supervisors and

706
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, tag I was it. And just that's

707
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: why I'm here. It's always had my back. I've screwed

708
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Speaker 4: up a million times. No one more loyal than Willie

709
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Speaker 4: Brown when I'm doing too well, no one more willing

710
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: to challenge me and call you know, called me out.

711
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: You ain't all that important, too very important and you know,

712
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 4: he's ninety years young plus, and it's just they don't

713
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 4: make it like him anymore. And the coin of the

714
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: realm is just relationships, trust truth. He was a social

715
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 4: justice warrior, racial justice war, economic justice where his values

716
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 4: were there. But he was a practitioner. He's a practitioner.

717
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: He just he makes things happen. And that was then

718
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Speaker 4: I'll just end on that. What he taught me more

719
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: than anything else, besides loyalty and relationships is get shited done. Man.

720
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 4: It's not about talking about things. You're not here to

721
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 4: make a point. You got to make a goddamn difference.

722
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: And so taking that entrepreneurial mindset that I had, you know,

723
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 4: I've had the privilege of opening twenty small businesses, restaurants, hotels, wineries,

724
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 4: peak weight about a thousand employees. And I don't say

725
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 4: that to impress you, but to impress upon you a

726
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: passion for entrepreneurialism, right, But taking that entrepreneurial mindset to

727
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 4: the work of governing, and that's been a sweet spot

728
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Speaker 4: for me and all the work I've done. And Willie

729
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 4: Brown was the one just that created that platform and

730
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 4: that opportunity. And so I'm humbled by that. I have

731
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: grace and humility that I didn't get here quote unquote

732
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 4: on my own, but I had to do. You know,

733
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: once that door is open, you got it. You gotta perform.

734
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: And uh. And he's just always been there to help guide.

735
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Speaker 4: And you know, Kamala was blessed in so many ways.

736
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: We all we grew up together. I mean, when you

737
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: know you had Kama here, we I get sworn in

738
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: as mayor Kama and I walked across the street. She

739
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: was that am I swearing in and walked right across

740
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 4: the street swearing her in for district attorney. And uh,

741
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 4: I mean a relationship goes back decades. And and Willie

742
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 4: Brown was a constant for both of us, and they

743
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 4: were just really blessed, really cool.

744
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Speaker 1: Potentially gearing up for twenty twenty eight. Get in at

745
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: the as president.

746
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Speaker 4: But president of my new rotary club. There you go,

747
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 4: there you go, or actually club sports we go maybe

748
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: more lucrative. Actually this conversation.

749
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Speaker 2: We ride. We ride, eight babe, we ride.

750
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Speaker 1: But one thing I think you've done, which is kind

751
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: of taken the world by storm, is really gone hard

752
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: on social media. Since June, You've gained two million followers

753
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: on TikTok, two million follows or over two million followers

754
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: on Instagram, two plus on x Why did you feel

755
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: it was so important to kind of start tapping in

756
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: Because I think this last election is when people kind

757
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: of started thinking outside the box and understanding the power

758
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: of social media. But then also situations like this, I

759
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: mean high paid media and there's the Foxes and the

760
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: CNNs and all that other shit, but people started realizing

761
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: the importance of sitting down and connecting to the communities

762
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: that these shows hold, but then also the power of

763
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Speaker 1: social media.

764
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 4: We got our eyes kicked in the last election. We

765
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: did just you can't sugarcoat it. We did yeah, period,

766
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 4: full stop, and we missed some treadlines that are headlines now.

767
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: We weren't talking to young men who are more disengaged

768
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 4: and dissatisfied as a cohort, multi ethnic it's not just

769
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: young white men, young folks thirty and younger. It's they're

770
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 4: doing worse than their parents first generation in history. They

771
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 4: claimed that can't afford housing, I can barely afford utilities

772
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: or rent, and just don't see them a future that's

773
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: particularly bright. And Republicans started to connect to that in

774
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: a deep and meaningful way. Democrats neglected that. We neglected

775
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: to understand the weaponization agreements that was going on in

776
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: Fox and Won American News and Newsmax, and the fact

777
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: that fourteen to the top fifteen cable networks are all

778
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 4: on Fox. We missed this sort of what's happening with

779
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: you guys and where you guys are starting to organize

780
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 4: and having authentic two way conversations, And as a consequence,

781
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 4: we got again our ass kicked. And so I've been

782
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: trying to sort of reconcile that myself and I've been

783
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: going through another a process. That's why I started the

784
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 4: podcast with Marshaun, created this new podcast, why I started

785
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 4: going on Fox, why I got involved in debates with

786
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: other governors like Ron de Santis, And that's why to

787
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: your question on the social media side, that I've radically

788
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 4: changed my approach to communicating in that respect. But I'll

789
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: tell you nothing created more clarity than what happened here

790
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 4: in LA when Donald Trump federalized four thousand National Guard,

791
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: where he sent the United States military not overseas. He

792
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 4: never set the military overseasons first term, he still hasn't

793
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 4: done in a second. He sent them to the second

794
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 4: largest city in the United States and a seven hundred

795
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: active duty marines to your city here in LA And

796
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: it just required a different level of communication and clarity.

797
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 4: And so I just want in mind to stretched never

798
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 4: goes back to its original form. I just we said,

799
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Speaker 4: everything we're doing is not working. They're sort of chasing

800
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: this their shape, shifting the narrative. We're constantly responding to it.

801
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: We have got to get on the offense and more importantly,

802
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: I got to call the bullshit. And so we put

803
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 4: a mirror up to Trump. This guy's sitting there with

804
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: memes as stressed up as the pope. He's putting you know,

805
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: he's the new Superman thing. He's the Superman hero. He's

806
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 4: putting himself on Mount Rushmore. He's putting all these all

807
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 4: cap tweets that if my nine year old put something

808
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: like that or talk like that, he'd be in the corner.

809
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: He would't have his devices for a month. This is

810
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: the president of goddamn United States. And we started to

811
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 4: put a mirror up and we started to model that

812
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: in a way to expose it. And what was amazing

813
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: is we didn't expose Trump in that respect. We exposed

814
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 4: his universe. The folks at Fox were like, this is

815
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: very up in arms unbecoming of the governor. If I

816
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 4: were his wife, I'd wash his mouth with soap. The

817
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: governor knew something. And I'm like, literally, that's parroting precisely

818
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: what your president has been doing for the last ten years.

819
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 4: And you've been celebrating. You've never called him out once.

820
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 4: And it really started to breakthrough. Man. People started paying attention,

821
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 4: and now we just were not fucking around. You come

822
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 4: at us, let's go, and let's go. And I'm telling you,

823
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: at the core of the problem with the Democratic Party,

824
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 4: I submit this is my humble I mean, we can

825
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 4: get into its inflation, it's interest rates, it's incumbency, it's

826
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: the view with kama I might be Israel whatever. No weakness, period, weakness.

827
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 4: Trump is weakness masquerading as strength. Democrats weakness, and that

828
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: fundamentally has to be addressed. We can get into the

829
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Speaker 4: issues we were dominant in terms of the vast majority

830
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: of issues the American people with Democrats, not all of them,

831
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: but the vast majority. But at the end of the day,

832
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Speaker 4: that's the issue we have to dress. And I'll never

833
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: forget Bill Clinton said it better than anybody else after

834
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 4: decades ago. He said, when we got selected in a

835
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Speaker 4: midterm election, he said, given the choice, I love this

836
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Speaker 4: classic Clinton. Given the choice, the American people will always

837
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 4: support strong and wrong versus weak and right. And I

838
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: just think it's important what I'm trying to do is

839
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: not just express strength in terms of communication, but to

840
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 4: demonstrate it in terms of the work we're doing on

841
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 4: the ground and using our moral authority and our formal authority.

842
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 4: That's what Proposition fifty is all about, man. I mean,

843
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: organizing a response to what's happening in this country and

844
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 4: organizing people to feel empowered, to give them a voice,

845
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: to give us choice and be it'll push back against

846
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: the son of a bitch. And so that's the approach

847
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 4: we're taking. And you're right, it's very different than it

848
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 4: was in the past. And I it's for me just

849
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 4: a way of being accountable and looking at my damn.

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Speaker 1: Kids and you guys, I like that. I mean, we

851
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: had Michelle Obama on and I particularly asked. I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have a famous quote of you know,

853
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: when they go lo, we go high, Like do we

854
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: still have to do that? And she smiled and obviously

855
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: said no, like I think we got to meet them

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00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: where they're at. Yeah, and again right to your point showing,

857
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Speaker 1: you know, turn the mirror around like this is the

858
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: kind of dumb, weak, little dick energy you guys are on,

859
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: and we're gonna throw it right back in your face.

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Speaker 4: I mean, come on, man, do you see this? That's

861
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Speaker 4: not you Never he's never, he's never heard words like that.

862
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Speaker 4: He's very sensitive.

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Speaker 1: This is what he does, what he does.

864
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Speaker 4: Come on, it's how can he not call out all

865
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: this ship? I mean, it's you know, but the problem

866
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 4: is it's just it's it's they're flooding the zone, right

867
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: and it could be overwhelming, and people then start to

868
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 4: tune out, man, and this guy's just tuning up. And

869
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: so we got to stay tuned in to extend this.

870
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 4: And we've got to show up. And you can't give in, man,

871
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 4: you can lose this country. No bullshit. It's not the

872
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 4: rule of law anymore. It's the rule of dawn. He

873
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: didn't give a shit about the law. I mean, he's

874
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 4: already taken. Congress doesn't exist. They're completely soup and they're

875
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 4: on their back. Yes, and sir, what else do you need.

876
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: The courts are increasingly the same. I mean this whole system,

877
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 4: three co equal branches, guy, and even going to get this,

878
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 4: I do remember even with nine sixty s a t

879
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: that they taught us in seventh grade, three co equal

880
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 4: branches of government, popular sovereignty, rule of law. You know,

881
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 4: oversight that's gone. Man. This guy is wrecking this country.

882
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: And again, it's not about being Democrat or Republican. I

883
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 4: married into a big Republican family, a deep respect and

884
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 4: love for people I disagree with. On our podcast, I've

885
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: had Charlie kirkh On, had Steve Bannona, I had guys

886
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 4: that were running my recall campaigns literally the people like

887
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 4: Nu Gingridge that were literally leading the effort to get

888
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 4: me recalled as governor. I want to reach out to

889
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 4: folks I disagree with the stand up, but at the

890
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: same time, we have to understand these guys aren't fucking around.

891
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: They're not fucking around. These guys are surgical, and so

892
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 4: we have to get our shit together the Democratic Party.

893
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm trying to trigger, that deeper understanding,

894
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 4: but also iterating myself and being accountable, not just to

895
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 4: identify a problem, trying to solve it.

896
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: At the same time, I feel like I think a

897
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: unified message from the Democrats is what we've kind of

898
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: always lacked, hated to love it. MAGA has things they

899
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: stand on. It's a lot of crazy stuff, but they

900
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: stand together unified on that. Why do you feel the

901
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: messaging and our ability or excuse me, the democratic ability

902
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: to come together has faltered for so long.

903
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 4: Well, it's a great question. I mean, I think we

904
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: we're builders. They're not builders. This guy's got a wrecking ball.

905
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 4: Tearing things down is easy, man, it's easy. I mean

906
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: building things up, putting the scaffolding you had. Come on

907
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: up here. We'll talk about the the IRA and the

908
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 4: Chips and Science Act, and the Infrastructure Bill and the

909
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 4: work they had to do with Safer Community's Bill. Each

910
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: one of those those hard work man, four hundred bipartisan

911
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: bills building things, Obamacare, building something, wrecking it, taking it away,

912
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: ain't no damn no bildy. That's easy to do, and

913
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 4: in so many ways it's unifying for those that feel

914
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: they're struggling, don't understand why their needs are not being met.

915
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 4: I mean, at least this guy shows up says I

916
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 4: see you back to young men. Trump's I see you.

917
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: I mean, his.

918
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: Prescription has been shit. He promised you'd be wealthier and healthier.

919
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 4: You're poor and you're sicker right now in the last

920
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: nine months with Donald Trump. But it's not about that.

921
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 4: And so I just think showing up where people are

922
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 4: listening to people, showing respect, don't talk down to people,

923
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: don't talk past people. We could be a little too

924
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: precious sometimes Democrats and little.

925
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: More by the book, Yeah, a little.

926
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 4: Virtue signaling a little bit, you know, sometimes talking to

927
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: We've got to watch all that. But I think fundamentally

928
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: the organizing principle can't just be about what we're against

929
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: and right now, it has to be in the context

930
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 4: of the situation, which is Trump and Trump is and

931
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: we've got to push back in the immediate But to

932
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 4: answer that question in a way that is affirming, where

933
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 4: you see yourself in that vision, where you feel heard,

934
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 4: that you feel you are part of a journey that

935
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: we can go on together. That has to be the

936
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: defining framework and principle moving forward as we transition away

937
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 4: from this situational struggle with Trump to getting our party

938
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 4: back on track a positive alternative vision. But we're builders

939
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, and that's a deep

940
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: point of pride and we can't lose those that set

941
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 4: of values either.

942
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: TikTok being bought by Murdoch, the Murdoch's Larry Ellison, Twitter

943
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: controlled by Elon Mark Zuckerberg, you know, CosIng up with Trump.

944
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: How dangerous are these type of situations where they're almost

945
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: controlling every aspect of media. We saw all the badges

946
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: pulled from the Pentagon yesterday, like it's it's crazy.

947
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm surprised Trump doesn't sell knee pads with

948
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 4: his initials asters as he's selling perfume that smells like success.

949
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: And you know, Trump watches and crypto selling out this

950
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 4: country the greatest grift in modern American history. I mean,

951
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 4: what more evidence we need? A four and a million

952
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 4: dollar plane, of which you are subsidizing with an additional

953
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: billion dollars with cuts to food stamps and healthcare one

954
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: billion dollars a year money to retrofit is four hundred

955
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: million dollar private plane that was a gift from the Kataris.

956
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: Or the fact that he's sitting there with an Indonesian

957
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: president talking about connecting with his son Eric for their

958
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 4: new golf course deal as it relates to the big

959
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 4: Middle East piece plan or all the work that they've

960
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 4: done in Vietnam to waive all the environmental work for

961
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 4: the new golf course, or the UA or the saudis

962
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: taking care of the new Trump towers. This is sick

963
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: what's going on in the goddamn country, aiding and abedded

964
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 4: by law firms that have completely sold out universities that

965
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 4: are selling out. And it will not be the case

966
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 4: with the UC and of USCA cannot happen. But you're

967
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 4: seeing it across the board. And you mentioned media. You

968
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 4: didn't mention one thing. Watch what's about to happen. Paramount

969
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 4: is going to not just own CBS, They're about to

970
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 4: own CNN, HBO, They're going to buy Warner Brothers. You

971
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 4: talk about this additional and concentration. Who got TikTok? Who

972
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 4: are those folks? The Murdochs and these are his friends.

973
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 4: Crony capitalis not free enterprise. I started my wine store

974
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: man as I'm a free enterprise guy. I believe in capitalism,

975
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: not state capitalism, not crony capitalism. Not taking ten percent

976
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 4: of Intel, not taking fifteen percent of the profits of

977
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 4: AMD in Nvidia to allow them to sell chips to China.

978
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 4: The hell is going on in this country and Republican

979
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 4: parties nowhere to be found. Ronald Reagan's rolling is goddamn grave.

980
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 4: I sit in Reagan's desk as the former governor of California,

981
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 4: rolling in his grave. The hell is going on in

982
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: this country. So people need to speak up, and the richest,

983
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 4: most powerful human beings are doing exactly the opposite. Crazy

984
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 4: back to the damn knee pads. And so that's why

985
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 4: that's why I'm looking, man, That's why I'm here. That's

986
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 4: why I'm doing the social mad That's why I'm doing

987
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 4: PROV fifty. And it's not enough. I mean, it's got

988
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 4: to be all of us standing up and again not

989
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 4: from position to hate. Everyone wants to be loved. We

990
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 4: all need to be loved, man. We all want to

991
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 4: be protected, connected, respected. It's not about who you vote for,

992
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 4: but it's about who we are find some sense of

993
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 4: community again and belonging and in this continent. So you

994
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: asked me how I feel about it. I mean this

995
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 4: code red, man, it is code red. And so I

996
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 4: just I pray enough people have the courage of their

997
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 4: convictions and stand tall and firm against.

998
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: This ice fring student loan forgiveness bonuses to sign up,

999
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: paying them more than teachers, kidnapping our neighbors. How do

1000
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: we recover? Obviously you passed, I forgot what it was called.

1001
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: But obviously no, not the masking, not even allowed to

1002
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: have masks on. But how do we overcome this? Because

1003
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: now the masks men literally jumping out of the back

1004
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: of you hauls, man.

1005
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 4: Jumping out of the back of unmarked cars. People in

1006
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: masks without any identification, throwing people, Americans, tourists, some people

1007
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 4: your documentation, some without color of their skin, disappearing on

1008
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 4: the basis of the color of their skin. We talk

1009
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 4: about authoritarianism, and people say, well, do you feel here?

1010
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 4: I said, for guys like me, maybe not yet of

1011
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 4: the black and brown community, are you kidding me? Scared

1012
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 4: to walk your dog, scared to show up your graduation,

1013
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 4: go to the clinic to get an immunization shot, worried

1014
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 4: the school crossing guard's going to turn you in, not

1015
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: even showing up for a funeral of a family member.

1016
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: It's not just on the base of skin. It's where

1017
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 4: you congregate. It's the language you speak, or your accent.

1018
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: In the United States of America in twenty twenty five,

1019
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 4: people disappearing, no due process rights. I met a kid,

1020
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 4: sixteen year old kid fourteen, excuse me, Jesus in Ventura.

1021
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 4: Couldn't even talk to me. He was literally bawling. Every

1022
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 4: time he tried to talk, he started. He was like

1023
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 4: literally curling up in a ball. His mom and dad disappeared.

1024
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 4: He couldn't get back in the House's no brothers and sisters,

1025
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 4: no aunt's, uncles, cousins. He grew up in Ventura County,

1026
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 4: speaks perfect English. His mom was going with her husband

1027
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 4: to the same packing facility in Ventura and they smashed

1028
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 4: the window and they disappeared. That's America in twenty twenty five.

1029
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 4: Donald Trump terror on the streets of America, taking black

1030
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 4: helicopters and getting people to repel and sitting there as

1031
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 4: kids are in their diapers in their cribs, with people

1032
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 4: that are naked, that are sleeping, and literally putting guns

1033
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 4: to their head and zip tying them and throwing them

1034
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 4: out in the streets and sidewalks. That's happening in America

1035
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 4: right now today, Donald Trump. So this is serious, and

1036
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 4: it's happened in this city. First city was terrorized continues

1037
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 4: to this day. Now you got in Portland, you got

1038
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 4: it in places like Illinois. They've threatened San Francisco yesterday.

1039
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 4: This is serious moment. So yeah, we did the first bill.

1040
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 4: As prior to sign the first bill, say, take your

1041
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 4: damn masks off? What are you scared of? What are

1042
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 4: you afraid of? Show your ID. I want to physically

1043
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 4: see it, and I want you to pull it out.

1044
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. I just I read the

1045
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 4: Bill of Rights, I read the US Constitution. I mean,

1046
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: I know what Habeas Corpus is. President was asked about

1047
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 4: it the other day. He said, who's Habeas? Literally said that,

1048
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: look it up. I'm not bullshitting you. President of the

1049
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: goddamn United States said, oh, you asked them about Habeas again,

1050
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 4: this is a nine to sixty sat.

1051
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 1: Guy, I can't call it. Ben UCLA, my alma mater

1052
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: is under attack. Can you explain what the Trump administration

1053
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: is trying to do and how you were trying to

1054
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: counter that?

1055
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 4: Well, everyone was selling out, man.

1056
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people bent the knee.

1057
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: I mean, the University of Pennsylvania, you obviously saw. I

1058
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 4: been in Columbia and Brown university. And then it was

1059
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 4: a big announcement at least in the New York Times

1060
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 4: that Harvard was about to sell out. And then he

1061
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 4: came in he wants a billion dollar fine. Is let's

1062
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 4: just understand this. He wants a billion dollars from from

1063
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 4: your own model because of alleged anti semitism that has

1064
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 4: all been cleaned up. And in fact, the Anti Defamation

1065
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 4: League called out California is the leading state in terms

1066
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 4: of policies to address anti Semitism. How the Wall Street

1067
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 4: Journal just called me. I didn't think this was possible,

1068
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 4: actually had a positive editorial calling out the work we're

1069
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,479
Speaker 4: doing in the state to address anti Semitism. And he's

1070
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: now assessing a one billion dollar five. This is the

1071
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 4: same son of a bitch president United States who had

1072
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 4: dinner with Nick Fuentis lecturing us about anti Semitism. The

1073
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 4: same president of United States who hasn't said one damn

1074
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Speaker 4: word about these young college Republicans and young Republicans period,

1075
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 4: some as old as thirty, that we're out there referring

1076
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 4: to certain communities as monkeys, watermelon people. I won't even

1077
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 4: get into the n words. Twenty nine hundred pages. This

1078
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 4: just happened the last forty eight hours. President has said nothing.

1079
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 4: JD Vance has said nothing. Sent him to the gas chamber.

1080
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 4: We love Hitler, wanting to get into all the other stuff.

1081
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Speaker 2: JD.

1082
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: Not to cut you off. JD said, we're too focused

1083
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 1: on kids being kids, and none of these people are kids.

1084
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: These are grown ass men.

1085
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 4: Are members of the state parties working for state records

1086
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 4: from New York State all the way to arizonaous and

1087
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 4: JD Vance said, well, they're just edgy, right, and then

1088
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 4: he decried cancel culture. Really, the same folks that cancel

1089
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 4: bud Light and Big Bird talking to us about cancel culture.

1090
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 4: Goddamn break.

1091
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Speaker 1: I got a question too.

1092
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 4: I need some more coffee.

1093
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, or in honor of Marshall puts the PA trinity

1094
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: in there. I want to ask you something because I

1095
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: had a chance. Some friends of my organized they sit

1096
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: down with Mayor Karen Bass about a month and a

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00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: half ago. And obviously California is a big, beautiful state

1098
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: who's easy to attack. And I feel like, again, this

1099
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: kind of goes back to messaging. The positive steps moving

1100
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: forward are never highlighted. It's always the small cracks or

1101
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: the lies that are perpetuated and blown up into a

1102
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: big situation. How do you feel outside of the mission

1103
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: you're driving on social media? How do you feel that

1104
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: people that Noah love California and really know what's going on?

1105
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: How can we help push the truth along and help

1106
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: get the truth out there, what is actually going on?

1107
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: Step by step in in the winds that we are

1108
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: succeeding because they want to talk a lot of shit,

1109
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: but everyone fourth art is the kind. I mean, I

1110
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: know you have the numbers, but everyone loves California. It's expensive, yeah,

1111
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: but everybody loves California. So how can we as a unit,

1112
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: as a group of people help push the right message?

1113
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 4: God, I love that you know, and you guys can

1114
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 4: appreciate this. As successful as you both are, you're nothing

1115
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 4: but a mirror of your consistent thoughts. Whatever you focus on,

1116
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 4: you find more of period, full stop. And there's this

1117
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 4: California derangement syndrome that's out there. Man, it's out of control.

1118
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 4: It's a whole industry that's been built upon bashing California

1119
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: twenty four to seven. I mean Fox was built on it.

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00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 4: I mean Trump is I mean, it's just I mean,

1121
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 4: it's twenty four to seven just as a war with

1122
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 4: this state, and I'm struggling with this and I love

1123
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 4: the question. I appreciate you asking this question because we

1124
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 4: need help and I'm not No one's going to deny.

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00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 4: Every state in this country is struggling with affordability. Every

1126
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 4: state in this country is addressing with the issue of homelessness,

1127
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 4: and almostness went up eighteen point one three percent last year.

1128
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 4: Across the country went up just three percent here still unacceptable.

1129
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 4: Unsheltered homelessness was flat last year, one ze point four

1130
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 4: to five percent, lower than forty four other states. They

1131
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 4: never mentioned any of the other states that saw double

1132
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: digit increases. They don't mentioned the other states that have

1133
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: affordability crisis. Seven of the top ten murder states are

1134
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: Republican states. The highest states with deaths of despair, issues

1135
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 4: of maternal mentality here, infant mortality, the lowest wages, the

1136
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 4: lowest productivity rights, the taker states, all these red states.

1137
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 4: They don't mention it, but they go after the state

1138
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 4: of California. That's a donor state. At eighty three point

1139
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 4: one billion dollars last year, more that we gave the

1140
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 4: federal government than we received from the federal government. Dominating

1141
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 4: in every fucking category. Give me a major category. This

1142
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 4: state dominates in manufacturing, dominates in two way trade, dominates

1143
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 4: in venture capital, dominates with more engineer, scientists, more Nobel laureates.

1144
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 4: No one even comes close. Five new mino moral laureates

1145
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 4: from your damn u see system Trump zero last week

1146
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: California five. In terms of the new Nobel laureates, m

1147
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 4: Ai center of the universe, we have no peers in

1148
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 4: quantum infusion. Center of the universe. Most diverse state in

1149
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: the world's modjestified verse, democracy, point of pride, ability to

1150
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: live in, advance together across our differences. The fourth largest

1151
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 4: economy in the world four point one trillion dollars a year.

1152
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 4: Eat your heart out, Germany. I mean, this is unlike

1153
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 4: anything we have ever experienced. A state that punches so

1154
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 4: much above its weight. Fourteen percent of the US GDP,

1155
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 4: where the tenpole of the US economy in terms of

1156
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 4: innovation and entrepreneurism, and yet twenty four to seven. You

1157
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 4: see what the hell's wrong with it? And again I'm

1158
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 4: non naive. Go down to skid Row naive. We talked

1159
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 4: about Oakland, some of the challenges turning around my old

1160
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 4: city challenges very much turning around and we're making progress,

1161
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 4: We're punching, but we do have a challenge, and that

1162
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 4: is really celebrating our wins man as opposed to the

1163
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: triumphem of all the negative that comes out and everyone

1164
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 4: just sort of coloring that in and making it so

1165
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 4: much bigger than it is.

1166
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: Coming down the home stretch from Tupac to NWA to

1167
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar, these all California artists who have global voices

1168
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 1: for justice and change. What do you think it says

1169
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: about the state's role in shape not just hip hop,

1170
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: but kind of the democratic culture. And interesting not to

1171
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: forget that you actually signed the bill not to protect lyrics.

1172
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, as well with.

1173
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 4: Two Short and forty and jay Z and others. A

1174
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 4: Craft was a big part of that. Man.

1175
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: That was a huge good dude, was really great.

1176
01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I really all those guys came together.

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01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 4: We had a meeting that really brought that issue home

1178
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 4: to me man in a really powerful way. I was

1179
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 4: so honored to be part of that. And Kendrick, you

1180
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 4: know our state poet laureate. From my perspective, I mean,

1181
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 4: come on, man, I mean you didn't even add Snoop

1182
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 4: in those guys, and you know, I'm running around my

1183
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 4: Snoop sketchers everywhere. I usually I'm wearing everybody. Everybody am

1184
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 4: I wearing? Sorry Snoop? Sorry? Brother?

1185
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, stupid, But it's.

1186
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, it's that's again what makes we could have?

1187
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I've gone on for forty five more minutes

1188
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 4: about what makes California great. I mean, we I was

1189
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 4: I just spent last week. We were highlighting some nation

1190
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 4: leading test scores. It's relased every grade, every classroom, every cohort,

1191
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 4: African Americans, Latinos and Compton Unified schoolders talk about Compton

1192
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 4: one of the best urban school districts in this country,

1193
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 4: crushing it, I mean, and then you start thinking about

1194
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 4: Compton and the history of Compton, just and who came

1195
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 4: from out of Compton, and you music and the culture,

1196
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 4: arts and the expression that's still alive today and the success.

1197
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 4: But back to that's a picture that again will never

1198
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 4: be painted in the national media. The success of Compton

1199
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 4: Unified Damn School District or La Unified School District that

1200
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 4: also had back to back years of significant growth after

1201
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 4: years of struggle, we got a great new superintendent. Amazing

1202
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 4: things happening. But we started with all that music scene

1203
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 4: up in the Bay Area, the music scene down here,

1204
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 4: but the art artistic express We do the California Hall

1205
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 4: of Fame every year, and the biggest problem is, like, man,

1206
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 4: we have to just pick ten a year. I mean,

1207
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 4: there's no other state that comes close and you're like,

1208
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 4: oh God, I didn't know that person's from here, Like, oh,

1209
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 4: that means like in every category, the folks that come

1210
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 4: from this state, because we have a state of mind, man,

1211
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 4: this sort of quality of imagination. If the future happens

1212
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 4: here first, where America is coming attraction and that my

1213
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 4: set persists, I think in every aspect of our culture.

1214
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 4: And I think that's the job of leaders Karen Bass

1215
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 4: and others. But leadership could be found anywhere. And this

1216
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: notion of defining leadership in those terms not positions of

1217
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 4: formal authority, but those leaders in the community, those with

1218
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 4: the moral authority. Back to community building, back to Oakland man,

1219
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 4: back to that sense of pride and spirit, the things

1220
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 4: that the elected officials can't create. Man, And our job

1221
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 4: is climate control. Create the climate. It's not command and control.

1222
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 4: That's Trump selling down his vision It's about creating those

1223
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 4: conditions where success becomes irresistible. Man, it just appears, there's

1224
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 4: no denying it. And I think so much of what

1225
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 4: is expressed in the context of our music scene is

1226
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 4: expressed in that respect.

1227
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 3: You might not be in California Hall of Fame yet,

1228
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 3: me and you both know what hall of fame you are.

1229
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk about that later, quick hitters. First thing

1230
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: to come to mind. It could be the most important

1231
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: question I've asked you all day as the president of

1232
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 1: the hair club. What is your hair routine of Top

1233
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: of Top hair club?

1234
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: President?

1235
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: What's your hair routine? Yeah, I'm the president. Seriously several claims.

1236
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna do that about ten times the show because.

1237
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure you. I got to make sure

1238
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: I volume state what you got? What he is?

1239
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 4: What's the product?

1240
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: Man? What is it?

1241
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 4: Seriously?

1242
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: You want to really know? Do you want to really know?

1243
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 4: You have your own product?

1244
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: Now?

1245
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: No, you should, Jurgons, just a little squirt fresh out

1246
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: of the shower and just rub through.

1247
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 4: Seriously, just you, Jurgons.

1248
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: It's Italian black right here. Check this ship is Mount Nursed.

1249
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: Don't ask him nothing.

1250
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 4: It's mountainnursed it. What do you got? What do you do?

1251
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm forty seven with a full half line still growing.

1252
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: See that that this is taking him seven years for

1253
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: hit to get to the.

1254
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: This is not a marathon. It's not a spring. This

1255
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: is a marathon.

1256
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: So inquiring minds wanted to know you still got a

1257
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: nice head of hair. What's your routine?

1258
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 4: I remember in high school we had our fortieth reunion.

1259
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 4: I swear I got this. Uh, Tracy's her name. She

1260
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 4: comes up to me, she goes, you remember me? I said, oh,

1261
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 4: I think I remember. I was the cheerleader. Uh for basketball.

1262
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 4: It's like, oh yeah, Tracy Green, Tracy, how are you?

1263
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 4: She goes, do you remember the cheer? I said, what's

1264
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 4: the cheer? She goes, dippity Do, dippity do, Gavin, Gavin,

1265
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 4: we love you.

1266
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm like that.

1267
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 4: Dippity do was my go to hair back And then

1268
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 4: I'm so glad we get to edit this out. God,

1269
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 4: this is uh yeah, we got final final editing rights here.

1270
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 4: But so that's how I started with dippity too. And

1271
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 4: uh and now it's just some weird styling creams thing.

1272
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what that working though. It's congratulations.

1273
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 4: Man, it's great though, I gotta do. I gotta you

1274
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 4: that just for men.

1275
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: No, don't do it, keep it, no dives.

1276
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: You actually looked the same since the last time I

1277
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: seen you.

1278
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, man, agent, because he's got he's going

1279
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 4: to get his key before you do.

1280
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: Man, It's okay, I'm with him.

1281
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, comes from being real. I take it. One album

1282
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: you can listen to with no skips. Ooh about it?

1283
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 4: Oh come on, I mean the idea of an album

1284
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 4: is strange too, because that ages me. That's just weird.

1285
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Speaker 4: I mean that brings me back to like Pablo Cruise

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Speaker 4: days the Earth Wind and Fire and Yellow and you know,

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Speaker 4: back what I remember buying those albums. Yeah, literally that

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01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 4: was kind of the mind that pop. I do love

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Speaker 4: my Pablo Cruise, I mean back in the day. I

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Speaker 4: think I still have those albums, old Billy Joel albums,

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Speaker 4: et cetera. But no, it's it's so different, so curated. Now,

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01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 4: it's so wildly different. Uh and uh and it's like

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Speaker 4: and I'm I'm all over the damn place with like

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Speaker 4: you know, like in this country music face now okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: which is hard, you know, which also has a lot

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Speaker 4: of crossover appeal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean absolutely, they're saying a lot of

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Speaker 1: real ship in country music. Like I had some friends

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Speaker 1: that with the high school Like I'm cool, Like, listen

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Speaker 1: to what they're saying. I'm like, Oh, they're really telling

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Speaker 1: the story. I mean they're drunk and fucking with their

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01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: dogs and doing all kinds of other ship, but they're

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Speaker 1: telling the real story.

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Speaker 3: Of hottest songs this year has been a mash up

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Speaker 3: with a country song and an R and B beat.

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01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 3: That's what they've been dancing too. I can't think of it.

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01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 3: I can't think of the guy's name. Huh shit boozy, no, no, no, no,

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01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to go downtown in Little used to.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 2: There's now with another round, the one they've been doing

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Speaker 2: a dancing too.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's named Waller, Waller his song and they

1313
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 3: and they mashed it with an R and B beat,

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01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 3: and that's been the biggest song this year.

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Speaker 1: Damn there. If you were to send off a smoke signal,

1316
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: which normally means we're calling attention and directing people somewhere,

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01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: what would you be directing the people towards?

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01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I look, I'm forgive me for being

1319
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 4: a little selfish in this respect, but this ballot man,

1320
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 4: November fourth, just the whole thing. We will lose our

1321
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 4: country if we lose the midterm elections. It's not complicated.

1322
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,919
Speaker 4: And this is not hyperbole. This is not me. I've

1323
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 4: never been this guy. I've always been like, come on,

1324
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 4: we'll be all right, We're resilient. This is different. This

1325
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 4: guy is an invasive species. Man. This is different. This

1326
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 4: is different. I wasn't joking. It is about the rule

1327
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 4: of dawn. And you look at the Declaration of Independence.

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01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 4: It's the last thing anyone needs to look up. Look

1329
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 4: at the list of grievances from the founding fathers. Read

1330
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 4: them today. Taxation without representation and tariff policy that's increased

1331
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 4: the price for every single person watching. You checked how

1332
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 4: much your coffee costs. Check how much of a pound

1333
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 4: of beef or quarter pounds of beef has cost the

1334
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 4: grocery store. Oh, let's go. I mean furniture, appliances, cars,

1335
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 4: I mean this is seriously, I mean in every category,

1336
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 4: this is failing. But we have to reconcile that we

1337
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 4: still have agency and power and we can do something

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01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 4: about it. And that's why we are giving this. You know,

1339
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 4: we've given this gift of an opportunity to blow back

1340
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 4: in on November fourth with Proposition fifty, which just says

1341
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 4: we're going to fight fire with fire. And I'll tell

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01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 4: you brought up Michelle and trust me, man, I remember

1343
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,480
Speaker 4: you asked her that because that was a clip scene everywhere,

1344
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 4: because she she you're right. She didn't say yes. She

1345
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 4: said no. She said when we go high. But she

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01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 4: I think I.

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Speaker 1: Strategcause strategic, strategic, And I was like, oh, that's good.

1348
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 4: Like don't waste your egg.

1349
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to god damn play.

1350
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 4: That's what Prop fifty is about. Instead of sitting there

1351
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 4: screaming and yelling and you know, I told you holding

1352
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 4: hands and writing, hop ed we put something on the

1353
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 4: damn ballot. I've had to raise one hundred million dollars,

1354
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 4: no bullshit, over one hundred me in ninety days. We

1355
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 4: put this on the ballot, and it's our chance to

1356
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 4: fight fire with fire, push back against Trump. It's a

1357
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 4: redistricting plan, but it's about power at the end of

1358
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 4: the day, and it's about holding the line and holding

1359
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 4: Donald Trump accountable. And everybody has the ability to do

1360
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 4: that by voting yes on Prop fifty. It's in your mailbox.

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01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 4: The last day of the election is November fourth, but

1362
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 4: election day is today, and it's tomorrow, it's next week.

1363
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 4: Because all you have to do is simply send that

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01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 4: ballot back.

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01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: Yes on fifty, ranked these three in your order? M J.

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01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 1: Kobe lebron Hell you do that to me? Yeah, and

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01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: put you on the spot.

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01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 4: I hate this.

1369
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's not okay.

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01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 4: That ain't right, man, I told you always on the shop.

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Speaker 1: I know, I get it.

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Speaker 4: And I grew up with how many posters of MJ. Man,

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Speaker 4: Jesus Kobe, Jesus Christ. You know what I love? In politics?

1374
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 4: We have something called ra choice voting, so you can

1375
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 4: you don't have to vote for one or the other.

1376
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 4: You could just you know, you could have So I

1377
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 4: think that's a you know, we I think what I

1378
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 4: just said, that's what you just said. I think, Kobe.

1379
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Speaker 1: I mean you could throw it to me. You could

1380
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: throw any three up and have them one, two, three,

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01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: And I respect it, you know what.

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01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 4: I forgive me, and but I you know i'd be lying.

1383
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,799
Speaker 4: You want my my private thoughts, I will make very clip.

1384
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 4: I just have so much mad respect for Lebron Man.

1385
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 4: I love the beauty, the beauty of m J. Man

1386
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 4: just just the grace. But the grit this this I

1387
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 4: mean and his grit. Don't get me wrong, jesuscribe me

1388
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 4: in assassin in terms of being you guys are smart

1389
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 4: on this there. I have a lot of conversations with.

1390
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: Her about this too, which is really interesting.

1391
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 4: Is obvious reverence. But and it's not just shape shifting.

1392
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 4: Lebron just to me represents something else, just the mindset, this,

1393
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 4: this sustainable values.

1394
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: The greatest superstar of all time, and what he's done.

1395
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 4: Off the court, how he comports himself, that matters to me.

1396
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 4: What he represents his kids, to his best friends. Man

1397
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 4: being with them, they're still with him, says something about

1398
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 4: his character. I've seen him at his low moments as

1399
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 4: high moments. I just think he's a special dude. And

1400
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 4: and I thought, you know, what the hell he's gonna retire.

1401
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 4: We have one more season with that little you know

1402
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 4: ad campaign he just put out, and this so bitch

1403
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 4: could be around for three, four, five years.

1404
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

1405
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 4: So that's that's my I'd so there, MJ. Sorry, Kobe

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 4: Jesus Man, no disrespect, no disrespect. That's my list. Am

1407
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 4: I going to get out of here?

1408
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: You're good.

1409
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 4: And if we don't talk about the Dodgers, okay, they're

1410
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 4: gonna be.

1411
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 3: If you could see one guest on our show, who

1412
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 3: would it be? But you have to help us get

1413
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 3: your answer on the show.

1414
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: Yep, got to go in that rollodex of yours.

1415
01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 4: Well, I want Donald Trump on the show.

1416
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: I said that too.

1417
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 4: I got some question and he's you know, he's one

1418
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 4: of those guys I have a well on that subject.

1419
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 4: No one has a more interesting I think relationship to

1420
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 4: the president and elected office than I do. Because the

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01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 4: very nature that we've had one as a democratic governor

1422
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 4: going at him. We're already involved in forty two lawsuits

1423
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 4: against him one hundred and forty for the first term.

1424
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 3: Uh and lawsuits lawsuits against So I'm going to not

1425
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 3: ever go to jail for nothing, bro, I'm going to

1426
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 3: do some shit just to see when y'all check y'all

1427
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 3: temperature that it is crazy.

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01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, bad, yeah, remember what color you are? Right?

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01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, you have nothing to complain about it.

1430
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 4: He's the only that son of a bitch just told me.

1431
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 4: He said, do some should get arrested. So he's already

1432
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 4: he's already called for my arrest, which is something. And

1433
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 4: by the way, when you and God is my witness,

1434
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 4: I sat down with our lawyer to actually game out

1435
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 4: what that would look like. And the idea that I'm

1436
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 4: even that again in twenty twenty five, that a governor

1437
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 4: of any political stripe is gaming out at President United

1438
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 4: States saying on the tarmac that the guy should be

1439
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 4: arrested and actually figuring out what it would look like,

1440
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 4: how we do the bail, how we would actually work

1441
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 4: to get me out, and how we have to avoid

1442
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 4: any obstruction as it relates to an arrest, which will

1443
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 4: create the real pretext for a real arrest. Is insane,

1444
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 4: but that But the point I guess I'm saying is

1445
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 4: despite all that, could pick up the phone and have

1446
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 4: conversations with him. He's an interesting guy in that respect,

1447
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 4: and so he'd be an interested I'd say all that

1448
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 4: to not dismiss the notion that I could one day see.

1449
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: Him come to all the smoke I've been saying that, Yeah, well, Gay,

1450
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time. Man, continue to fight the good fight.

1451
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: We are behind you, and man, appreciate thank you. I

1452
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: appreciate you man Newsomse, thank you, thank you, thank you.

1453
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 4: Got to close.

1454
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: Oh that's a wrap. You can cass us on all

1455
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: the Smoke YouTube and the Drafting is Network. We'll see

1456
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: y'all next week.

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Speaker 2: M hm.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm h

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Speaker 1: M hmmm