1 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks for 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: joining us today. We are so excited to be back 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: as always. How are you today, Susan? 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: I am fabulous. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 3: I'm really excited about today's guest and she is very 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 3: special to us. Please welcome Katie Bigger from Zach Shellcross season. 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: I'm Katie, Welcome. 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me again. Guys, I'm gone. 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: You've got that happily married glow on your face. 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: Telling you the hair, the skin, She's just glowing. What's 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: going on? 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Have you been? 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: We're doing really good. Zach's working is nine to five. 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 5: I'm a part time nurse still, and we have our 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 5: wedding celebration coming up literally next weekend, so we are 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 5: so pumped for that. 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: We have a lot of Bachelor alumni coming in. 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: For that, Okay, so let's get into that. Who's coming 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: besides yours? Truly? 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 5: We've got all the girls like from my cast that 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 5: I'm really close with, so Jess, Mercedes, Gabby, We've got 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 5: Davia Aeriel that crew coming in, and then we've got 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 5: Joey Kelsey, We've got We've I don't Kathy, I don't 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 5: know if you've met him yet, but it's Jenna Palick's boyfriend, 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 5: Connor Saley, who was on Hannah Brown season. 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: He'll no, I have not met him. 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, so a lot of these super folks coming in. 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 5: So there's like a bunch of people from different seasons 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 5: coming in. It will be a good time. 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: Going to be. 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: It's probably gonna be. 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 5: I think we're looking at one hundred and thirty people 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 5: for the celebration and then we're doing like a big 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 5: pick a ball tournament in the morning. 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: Oh, that's gonna hurt celebration. 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: I can't break anything. I've got my paddle ready. I'm 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: ready to go break anything. 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: So tell us about your new house. You got a 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: new home. 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: Yes, So Zach and I are building a home. It'll 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: be or sorry. 42 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 5: We finished building in like July August. They're saying they 43 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 5: just broke ground. So that's super exciting and I'm just 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 5: like so pumped about it, Like this is my super Bowl. 45 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: I got to like pick all the colors my flooring. 46 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: I saw you you had a you you you posted. 47 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: I saw you looking at countertops and picking out marbles 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: and grants, and I thought, oh, she's to blast with them. 49 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah. And Zach's just like, do you think, Katie, 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 4: like you. 51 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: Got perfect husband, the perfect husband whenever you like, babe. 52 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: So it's this house. Watch this seamless transition, Katie. So 53 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: is this house big enough to have children? 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh yeah. 55 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 5: It's got three, four or five bedrooms in it. 56 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: WHOA, what how far is it from where you're at now? 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: It's more we're north, so it's more south. It's a bit. 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: It's a bit so out of the airport. 59 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 5: So it's probably like a fifteen twenty minute drive from 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 5: where I am right now. So we're going to be 61 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 5: on the complete other end of Austin, which I'm cited 62 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 5: forth south of the airport. 63 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: No I am. I am in central Austin, So Katie'll 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: be south of me, but still close enough for me 65 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: to come over and babysit for sure if we're. 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 4: Gonna need you because we have no family here. 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm family, that's right. So we have a question. You 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: said in something I read. I think there's a Bachelor 69 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Nation article, which are always fabulous fun to read if 70 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: you listeners. If you don't read them, you should. 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 5: Uh. 72 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: You said something about your health being one hundred percent 73 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: before you have children, kid? What does that mean? 74 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think right now. 75 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 5: I went to a doctor because I've been like having 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 5: like chronic fatigue. 77 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 4: I've been having brain. 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 5: Fog, muscle a pregnant, No, I would do with that, 79 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 5: but I guess I'm like really low in vitamin D, 80 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 5: so I'm on these like we me too supplements and 81 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 5: there's some other things too that I gotta check out 82 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 5: and make sure we're all good. Yeah, but I think, 83 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 5: just like being a nurse too, I just want to 84 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 5: be the healthiest I possibly can, especially before we have 85 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: little baby. 86 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: And are you going to try or are you just 87 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: gonna let it happen and not care which one way. 88 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: Or the other, or do you have a plan. 89 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. 90 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 5: Our plan is to kind of like start pulling the 91 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 5: goalie in like fall of twenty twenty. 92 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: Six, get in the house, get settled. 93 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 94 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 5: And I don't want to be like nauseated while I'm 95 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 5: decorating because I'm so excited for this, Like I don't 96 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 5: want to be like throwing up and I just want 97 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 5: I just Katie. 98 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: Not everyone. Let me just tell you, not everyone throws 99 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: up and gets sick. Some people just get pregnant like 100 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: me and eat until they explode and then pop the 101 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: babies out and do it all over again. 102 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 4: Oh, if that's the case for me, I trut that case. 103 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: So has anything changed after saying I. 104 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: Do do you feel any differently? I mean you were 105 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: living together, so but what has changed, if anything? 106 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. It's just like we're just so in 107 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 4: love with each other. 108 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 5: Whether there's a two rings on my finger or no 109 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 5: rings at all, we're just so in love with each other. 110 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 5: And he's just such an incredible man, Like I genuinely, 111 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 5: he's like the kindest, sweetest, most thoughtful, selfless, like. 112 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: Everything you want in a husband, that's what Zach is. 113 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 4: And yeah, I don't think anything with each other. 114 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're just growing every day and just so fun 115 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 5: waking up with your best friend. 116 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: He's so funny out with all the time, do fun things. 117 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: We have to go back. Does everybody know? I think 118 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: they know. One of the sweetest things Zach did for 119 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: you was another engagement. Yeah, does everyone know that story? 120 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Can you just like give a quick little share it. 121 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 5: I mean we did post it on social media, but 122 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 5: I think after the show, like obviously that was very 123 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 5: constructed by the Bachelor and the whole setup and everything 124 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: and lights and cameras. 125 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: That's just like not normal. 126 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 5: So I think Zach always had this idea of wanting 127 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 5: to propose to me again. 128 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 4: And I think it was really. 129 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 5: Sweet because it's kind of like, Okay, now you see 130 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: me for everything that I am when the cameras are off, 131 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: like you see my flaws and flaws and all the good, 132 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 5: the bad, all of it. So yeah, he reproposed to 133 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 5: me in Portugal, which was beautiful. It was incimmittently it's 134 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 5: just us and it was perfect and we went on 135 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 5: a little sunset. 136 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: Did you know he was going to do it? 137 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 5: I had a feeling he was going to do it, 138 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 5: but not there and I guess she was like carrying 139 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 5: around the ring all day and he didn't know when 140 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 5: to do it. It was just very like at the 141 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 5: whim he was like okay, baby, like I love you 142 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 5: so much. 143 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: And then as soon as he said that, I blocked out. 144 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, so wait, because you know 145 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: I have a detailed person. So you had one ring 146 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: on and this is an engagement of all you know, 147 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: untold proportions, like who represents this, darling? I love you. 148 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Let me slip off that other diamond ring and let 149 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: me slip on a new diamond ring. 150 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah it was. It was pretty funny, but too so. 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: Now we have two so we. 152 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: Have Are we blending them and getting a giant one 153 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: at this point or what is your plan? 154 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 5: It's funny because I have put them on at the 155 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 5: same time and it's just too much for me. I'm 156 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 5: just like a simple I don't like anything too flashy 157 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: kind of girl. So I think we're gonna hold on 158 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 5: to the Neil Lane diamond for now. 159 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 4: Maybe I don't. 160 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: If you have a daughter, it could be her. 161 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, she's Kitty's not flashy. You know, a 162 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: five bedroom home that she's killing. I mean, there's nothing 163 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: flashy about that. I love you and you know that 164 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: we've both been kind of busy and I haven't seen 165 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: you very much. But I'm saying it here publicly. When 166 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: that little munchkin or twins or triplets, whatever you may have, 167 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: I will be there to help you. 168 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: Babies and helps too. 169 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: We were all there was she out of town? 170 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: What was it? I asked about her. 171 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: And we were all the whole, the whole, So we 172 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: had a little get together. That was my slip up. 173 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: That was me, that was but I was so busy though. 174 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: I was. 175 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 5: I was watching your guys stories and you guys, we 176 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 5: were looking like like you were having a blast. 177 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: And finally Kathy's kitchen was used. 178 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: So that's good, hey, even though it was morning when 179 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: we cooked. 180 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: But so wait, Katie, I have a question about your 181 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: I know you want to become or at least get 182 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: a green card. Correct, Yeah, have you started that yet? 183 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 5: So basically, when I left Canada in August, there's a 184 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 5: three month kind of like probation period where I can't 185 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 5: do anything. So basically in December we're going to start 186 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 5: the process and then from there it's kind of like 187 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 5: the unforeseeable future of when I can leave the country 188 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 5: when we will get it, but I'm working with a 189 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 5: great immigration lawyer. 190 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 4: So hopefully sooner than later. But we'll see. 191 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's it's a lot, but that's just for 192 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: a green card. Do you plan on becoming a citizen? 193 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 5: No, I'll keep my citizenship in Canada, but both, yeah, 194 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 5: I'll be a permanent resident here. I don't want to 195 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 5: take away my Canadian citizenship. 196 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: You don't have to. You can be dual, Okay, you 197 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: have both. 198 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: You can be dual, but I think you have to. 199 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 4: I don't know the in and outs. 200 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I do. My sister was my 201 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: sister's dual. 202 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: You could be both, Okay, I didn't. 203 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 5: I think it's maybe like the reverse, Like if Zach 204 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 5: and I were to live in Canada, he would have 205 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 5: to revoke his US citizenship. 206 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: In order to be a Canadian Canadian. 207 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's one of them where you can't have both. 208 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 4: And I think it's just if he came to Canada. 209 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: Well, my sister moved. I don't know, maybe laws are changed. 210 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: My sister moved to Canada and America Canadian and kept 211 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 1: dual citizenship. 212 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 4: Okay, well, maybe I'm wrong, I'm I don't know. 213 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but whatever, we would love to 214 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: have you in this country as a citizen prominent resident. 215 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: Will take anywhere we can get you. 216 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: Katie belongs her. 217 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: So we just had uh Mel Fantasy Suites. We just 218 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: it just aired on Golden Bachelor, and we were curious 219 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: because we are voyeurs. We want to know about your 220 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: experience as a successful couple that went through fantasy suite. So, 221 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: if if Mel is with someone right now, what advice 222 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: do you have for the woman he's with, you know, 223 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: tell us what your thoughts were fantas see sweets moving forward. 224 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 5: I mean, for Mel, I would just say be yourself, 225 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 5: trust your gut. Don't put any declarations like, oh, I'm 226 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 5: not having sex this week anything like Zach did, because 227 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 5: that kind of turned the corner in the worst way. 228 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 5: But yeah, I think also just like taking advantage of 229 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 5: the time really getting to know each woman. 230 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: For who they are. 231 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: Could you feel what were you me? 232 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean everybody's gonna deal with Fantasy Suite 233 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 5: Week differently. 234 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: I think I've watched the Bachelor of the past. 235 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 5: I knew full fledged what I was getting into when 236 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 5: I signed that contract. If I got that far, then 237 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 5: that was potentially something that was going to happen. And 238 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 5: I wasn't blind to that, and I knew that going 239 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 5: into it, and I just wanted to compartmentalize each relationship 240 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 5: as best as I possibly could. 241 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: You mean, I'm sorry, I have to interrupt. Do you 242 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: mean Zach's other relationships? You said compartmentalize the relationships which one? 243 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, the other women right, yeah, with the other women 244 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 5: Gabby and Ariel were there for Fantasy Suite Week, And yeah, 245 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 5: you just I just wanted to go into that week 246 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 5: and just grow together and get to know him more 247 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 5: and vice versa. 248 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 4: That's all I wanted. 249 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: And you weren't thinking about the other women. You weren't. No, 250 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: I wasn't. 251 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 5: I was trying to because I was very confident in 252 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 5: our relationship and I was confident in who I am 253 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 5: as a woman and what I can bring to the table. 254 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 5: And if you want that, that's amazing. If you don't, 255 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: then you don't. 256 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: And so so Susan and I were just talking on 257 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: one of our other podcasts about what we of course, 258 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: we don't know how Mel's season as we're recording this, 259 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: we don't know how his season ends. But you know, 260 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: he's struggled a little bit to choose to declare love. 261 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: He hasn't really been able to. And so Susan asked me, 262 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: what could you have done that if if Mel said 263 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: to both women, look at I can't choose either one 264 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: of you because I need to get to know you better. 265 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: Could you have done that with Zach? Could you have 266 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: said it? 267 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: I honestly respect that if and he wanted to continue 268 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: dating both of you. 269 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: Answer the show? That was the question. Okay, that's a 270 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: big difference. 271 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, you will. You need to pick. You need 272 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: to pick which one you want to further grow your relationship. 273 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: You wouldn't okay, See, you wouldn't have been willing with 274 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: one of if it was down to two you and 275 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: let's say Ariel and you was he's going to shows 276 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: over He says, I can't commit to the one of you. Again, 277 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: we don't know what Mel did with this, just a 278 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: hypothetical situation. You wouldn't. You would have said to Zach, 279 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: no way, you choose me or you choose Ariel. 280 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 5: Otherwise, Yeah, I'm not doing this for Yeah, this is 281 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 5: why you know your girlfriend, right, Okay, Kathy I asked 282 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 5: her this question. 283 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: She said, no, I'm confident in myself he could date 284 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: both of us after the show, and because I feel 285 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: like he would choose me at the end. 286 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: There is no way. 287 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 288 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. 289 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 4: I like after the show, it's. 290 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 5: Kind of like you should know by that point who 291 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 5: you want to carry a relationship with. 292 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it's gonna be another show, another season. All right, Well, 293 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: what advice do you have, because clearly you you got 294 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: the guy, you didn't have to share him with anyone. 295 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: What advice do you have for the couple Melontos, assuming 296 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: he chose someone coming off the show, because you know, 297 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: getting out of that bubble is a thing. 298 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: Oh my god, is it? Ever? 299 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 5: I think for us it really work for Zach and 300 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 5: I just because we truly just wanted to like dive 301 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 5: into our relationship further when we could just prance around, 302 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: go for coffee dates. 303 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: How does he treat a server? Like what do you 304 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: like with your friends? Meeting them? So I think we 305 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: Zach and I just really just. 306 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 5: Wanted to be with each other and we didn't let 307 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: like like press or event or any of that in 308 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 5: our life. Like Zach is pretty much offline. He doesn't 309 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 5: love social media, even like him trying to Like when 310 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 5: I say, babe, can you get in this TikTok, it's 311 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 5: like pulling teeth for him. 312 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: So now you love us, we'll do that. 313 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, And honestly, I kind of I would take that 314 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 5: over a man that's like, hey, babe, get a shot 315 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 5: of me, you know, doing bicep curls for my followers. 316 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: Like, okay, but that's not the guy I kind of 317 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 4: that's not the guy I. 318 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: Want to be you with. 319 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 5: So anyways, Zach went back to his normal life. I 320 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 5: went back to mine. I mean I was a full 321 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: time nurse. Now I'm a part time nurse, and I'm 322 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 5: very grateful for that because we know the emotional and 323 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 5: the physical. 324 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: Yes, that's a lot. 325 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot pactingness that that can create. 326 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, we just went back to our normal lives 327 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 5: and we you know, the events that we wanted to 328 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: go to. 329 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: The So would your advice be for melon whoever to 330 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: go back to their you know, what would your advice 331 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: be for them? 332 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 333 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 5: I think just like going back to your regular lives 334 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 5: and like try and try and mend them together. I mean, 335 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 5: you can get really consumed by all of this craziness 336 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 5: the advantage of some of it, but not let it 337 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 5: consume your life. Like Zach and I are just normal kids. 338 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. 339 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: Did you hear what she just said? We're just normal 340 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: kids who fell in love on a TV show. 341 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: So all right, I have a question for you, and 342 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: we're talking about past seasons. Out of the entire franchise, 343 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: is there anybody that you wish that would have been 344 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: able to make it to Fantasy Suites? 345 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 5: You know what, I think everything happens for a reason, 346 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 5: and I think, no matter what, the leads just have 347 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 5: to trust their gut. 348 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: But somebody who made it further, I don't know. 349 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: A lot of times people will say, but if he chose, 350 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: like in this year's episode of Golden if he had 351 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: if he kept Debbie, or if he kept so and 352 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: so going through a fantasy suite. 353 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: If Gary chose for me? 354 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know how to answer that question. Now, 355 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't really remember. 356 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you. That's my next question, Katie, 357 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: that's my next question. How much of a make or 358 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: break do you think fantasy suites are? 359 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends what happens. 360 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: I well, isn't it when you take your MIC's off, 361 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: you actually talk as a couple. 362 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 5: When you really get to know somebody like it's it's hard. 363 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 5: So in the in those moments, Yes, at fantasy suite, 364 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 5: we you really have to, like you kind of like 365 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 5: stay up for like the whole night. 366 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: Just okay, I want to know that. So, what is 367 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: the biggest thing you learned about that you can share 368 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: the biggest thing you learned the most important thing you 369 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: learned about Zach in Fantasy Sweets you didn't know? 370 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: Oh, I learned how clean and organized he was. 371 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 5: Like he had his like shirts laid out on the bed, 372 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 5: he had. 373 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 4: His toothbrush in a specific spot. I'm like, oh, close 374 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: to be here, Like what is it? 375 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: I love it? 376 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: I love it. But I was like, wow, this man 377 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: is clean, like very clean. 378 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: He's neat and organized. That's big. 379 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 5: Plus he's a little bag and I'm like I've got 380 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 5: shit everywhere. Sorry if I'm not allowed to say that word. Yeah, 381 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 5: I learned how organized. 382 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: You When you got to do the Fantasy Suite. 383 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: When you walked in, did you be like, finally, nobody's 384 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: going to hear us, It's just me and you. 385 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: Did you have that feeling? Oh yeah, you're nervous. 386 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 4: A little bit of both. 387 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 5: It was like finally like I can like really show 388 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 5: you that I'm like super goofy and silly because like 389 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 5: when cameras were on me, I kind of hurtled up 390 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 5: a little bit and I was like, oh my god, Katie, 391 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 5: don't say or do the wrong thing. 392 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: Don't make yourself look like an idiot. 393 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 5: And like in the Fantasy Suite, I was like, all 394 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 5: right here around me. 395 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the thing that Zach learned about you? 396 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: What if I asked him, what would you say? What 397 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: do you think the thing? The biggest thing he learned 398 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: about you that he didn't know. 399 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 4: I think he realized how funny I was. 400 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: You are funny. You are funny. 401 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 4: I'm pretty funny. 402 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 5: But I think I don't you know what it was 403 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 5: like three years ago, so it was really hard to remember. 404 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 4: Oh, come, I remember if it is in pieces of 405 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: what happened. 406 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: But were you Were you nervous? I mean, if you 407 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: can't remember, like I would be nervous. 408 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 5: A lot of the conversation was what had just happened, 409 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 5: and that was the fact that he did he was 410 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 5: intimate with Gabby, and we were talking about you know, 411 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 5: he was, he was owning up, he was apologizing, he 412 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 5: was We were just diving into communication, our communication styles. 413 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 5: We also learned that about each other too, and how 414 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 5: we deal with com like how are we gonna find 415 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 5: a resolution? I think that was really important for us 416 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 5: to go through, go through story. 417 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: Because so, how were you supposed to know? How did 418 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: you know that he had slept with Gabby? 419 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: Yes? 420 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: Well, but actually I actually just knew because. 421 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 5: When you're on the show, you you gained these friendships 422 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 5: with the girls more than you do the lead. I 423 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 5: spend more time with Ariel and Gabby, and I was 424 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 5: very aware of. 425 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: What certain people needed in order to progress. 426 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 5: And I was fully aware of what was most likely 427 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 5: going to happen. 428 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 4: Nobody told me who it was. I pieced it together myself. 429 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 4: Nobody had to tell me. 430 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: But she was in the fantasies. How many were in 431 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 1: the fantasy suite three of us? So I'm saying, who 432 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: did the other one? I mean, I'm trying to figure 433 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: out how you knew because you don't see the other women, right. 434 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 5: I just knew based on how our friendships, I mean 435 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 5: for each other, Like even when like producers were like 436 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 5: go to bed, it was like Aeriel, Gabby and I 437 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 5: would like go into a hotel room together, and just. 438 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew. 439 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: I knew. 440 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 4: I knew, and. 441 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: Well, yes, clearly, but it was not a it was 442 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: not a him being in him it with someone else 443 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: clearly was not a make it or break it for 444 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: you in the fantasy suite. 445 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 4: No, not at all. That's the thing I felt. 446 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 5: Really. I felt humiliated, and I also was like, oh wow, okay, 447 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 5: our relationship isn't isn't as strong as I thought it 448 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 5: was but Dak and I talked a lot during that 449 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 5: time that we had off cameras, and I just like 450 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 5: I got some more clarity. 451 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 4: I got more insight into who he is as a man. 452 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 5: And at the end of the day, he's an incredible man. 453 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 5: I could see that off the show. Within like the 454 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 5: first time I ever met and met him, I was like, Wow, 455 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 5: this man is genuine, he's sweet, he's kind, like it's 456 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 5: everything you want. 457 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: So so did you know at the end of the 458 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: Fantasy Suites how confident were you that you were the one? 459 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: Because I was. 460 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 5: I wasn't confident you were in what I could bring 461 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 5: to the table like I was just I was like, 462 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: if it's not me, I'll be okay. It's gonna hurt, 463 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 5: but I will be okay no matter what. And if 464 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 5: it is me, then he's going to be the happiest 465 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 5: man alive for the rest of his life. 466 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 4: And he is and he is. 467 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: So that's you know, like I said, that's why I'm 468 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: so excited to see the end with mel because he's 469 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: got these two women that seemingly he could love both 470 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 1: of them, love or grow to love both of them, 471 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: or grow to love neither of them. But I just wondered. 472 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: You know, listen, the day I end up in a 473 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: fantasy suite, you can expect the stock market to go 474 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: to zero, the you know, the to snow in the 475 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: middle of July, so you know, keep that in mind. 476 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: But I would say that, I would say that I 477 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: can't imagine leaving there and not feeling like you were 478 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: the one. 479 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, feeling do they give you that they give you 480 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 3: any Yes, hopeful, that's what I'm thinking. 481 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: Yes, be able to share. 482 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: So yeah, there was a moment. I think it was 483 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 4: our last chance to date. 484 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 5: And I don't know if the camera's picked up on this, 485 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 5: because I think they have to be in a certain 486 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 5: radius in order to pick up your mic Anyways. 487 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 4: They had like shot down. 488 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 5: They were like already walking to the waterfall, and I 489 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 5: turned to Zach and I'm. 490 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 4: Like, I can't do this anymore like this. 491 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 5: I was like, this is crazy, Like if it's not me, 492 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 5: I want to go home, Like I genuinely. 493 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: Don't mean now. 494 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And he was like, he basically muttered to me. 495 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 1: Don't He said, what it will be worth it? Oh, 496 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm so much. 497 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 5: Zach. 498 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: I love you. I love you. Yeah, all right, Well, 499 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: before we move on We Got We Gotta Know. How 500 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: do you feel about Taylor Frankie Paul being the Bachelorette? 501 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a crazy, crazy good season. 502 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 5: I'm dialed in all the girls that like I run into, 503 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 5: They're like. 504 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: Katie, are you going to watch? I was like, oh, yeah, 505 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: I'll host some parties to cut. 506 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you expecting? Are you expecting drama? Are 507 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: you expecting? I think they're a little bit during her 508 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: cast like nice looking men from what I've. 509 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 4: Seen, I'm hoping. I'm thinking they've got a good cast 510 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: for sure. I mean, she's a beautiful woman. So yes, 511 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 4: beautiful woman. 512 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: So what do you think about the idea that she is? 513 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: You know, she was not plucked from obscurity, she has 514 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: a huge following, and she has children. How do you 515 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: think that's going to affect the franchise's decision to bring 516 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: her in? How do you think that whole thing is 517 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: going to fly? 518 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 4: I think they'll be amazing. 519 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 5: I don't I don't think we've had a lead before 520 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 5: that's had kids. 521 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: This is the first, I believe. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, somebody. 522 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: No married Emily Maynard maybe Okay, that was a while ago. 523 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: Okay, so I think it'll be awesome. 524 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 5: I think it'll be really good and just giving her background, 525 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 5: the fact that she has kids, I think it's going 526 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 5: to be a great season. 527 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: And I genuinely think we're going to see a good 528 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 4: love story come from it. 529 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: We need a good love story. 530 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: I hope Mels ends with a good love story, at 531 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 3: least a like story. 532 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: Hey, this sounds interesting. 533 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: Can I get on this bandwagon? I hope my story 534 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: ends with a good love story. I hope Soon ends 535 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: with a good love story. We all want good love story. 536 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 4: Kathy, we're gonna find you a good man, don't you. 537 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: We're hoping we are open. 538 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: Oh all right, Katie. 539 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: Now we've got to ask you tons of questions, which 540 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: we love doing, and we're going to open the floor 541 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 3: up to you. Alright, have anything question wise or comment 542 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: wise for Kathy and I. 543 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 4: Yes, Susan, I want to hear about your new relationship. 544 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: Oh see, Yes, he's French, he's far away. 545 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 3: I adore him. He's a good man, but it's not 546 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 3: easy with the distance. He was here for a month 547 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 3: and I really enjoyed every minute of it. 548 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: The last few days. 549 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: I think I was ready because I'm so used to 550 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: being on my own to have somebody in the home. 551 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: And he's not as neat as Zach. 552 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 5: Oh I got you. 553 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: So I'm constantly going behind him. Please, I'm a freak. 554 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, but he's good people. 555 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 4: Okay, good good. And Kathy, what about you? What's your 556 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 4: love life looking like? 557 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking at your puppy dog thinking, you know your 558 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: puppy dog has a better love life than I have. 559 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: The way you're patting, loving on that dog, I'm like, yep, okay, 560 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: I need to get a dog. Is that a new 561 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: puppy that's hot? 562 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 4: She's a year and a half old. 563 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 5: I got her last September and she's just the sweetest 564 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 5: little girl ever. 565 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: She's so sweet, so sweet. 566 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 567 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: No, I don't have a love life. But you know, 568 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: I'm the eternal optimist. I'm a hopeful romantic on all 569 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: those things, and. 570 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: I still feel right you're up for dating. 571 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm open for dating, up for dating. But you know, 572 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: in fact, Katie, at your party, mm hmm, you know 573 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna hang out at the bar and 574 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: or hang out on the street or whatever and see 575 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: who you know who's around, because I'm figuring if people 576 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: if it gets out that a lot of Bachelor Nation 577 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: people are going to be there. You know, you never know. 578 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: You meet someone in the strangest of ways, right when 579 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: the time is right, it'll happen. 580 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 4: That's right. 581 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 3: Well, everybody wants to have you like you're happy ending. 582 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: That's what the show is about, really finding love, and 583 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: you're absolute proof that it does work. 584 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, And I will tell you, Zach, I've 585 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: seen you just for anyone. I've been out to dinner 586 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: with Zach and Katy've been to my home. They are 587 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: everything that you're hearing out of Katie's mouth. He is 588 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: that wonderful guy. She is incredited. Katie, you are incredibly 589 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: funny and just as kind as your husband. And honey, 590 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: your sweet little pup is lucky to have you as parents. 591 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: Just seeing and she knows. 592 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: How to conduct a TikTok. Remember the one we did 593 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: at Kathy's house. 594 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 4: Yay, we went viral. 595 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: That was awesome. We've got to do that again. 596 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: And then being at the concert, I sat with Zach 597 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: listening to the music. You were out in the mountains 598 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: talking and he is such a sweetheart. He's just easy 599 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: to be there, really and he's kind and he laughs. 600 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: Of course I made him laugh. 601 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: But who's the more gooing of you two? It's you, 602 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: isn't it, Katie's Are you the more outgoing of the 603 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: two of you? 604 00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: Yes? 605 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: I would, yeah, I would say so. But he's he's 606 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 4: not going in in. 607 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 5: Other ways as well, Like I would say, I definitely 608 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: have more like in your face personality and he's not 609 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 5: so much. 610 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: He's funny though. 611 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm getting ready for that pickleball contest and you know 612 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: I did win the one on the Golden bachsl or So. 613 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: The night before. Oh no, it's gonna win, all right. 614 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: Well, listen, we we hate to hate to eat and run, 615 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: as I say, but this has been so much fun. Really, Katie, 616 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: thank you for coming onto the podcast. I love you. 617 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you soon. It's always so 618 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: great to chat with you. Almost. 619 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 4: Thank you time with you guys. 620 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: Have a great party. Girlfriend, thank you. Are you gonna 621 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: wear your wedding gown? 622 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: Are you like? 623 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 4: I have like a new little cocktail wedding dress. 624 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: Nice? 625 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. 626 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: Picture skat. 627 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: I want to say, wait, yeah, you didn't even tell 628 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: me what the dress is for this thing. 629 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: It's like a short sparkly cocktail dress. 630 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: Is it like black tie optional the party or. 631 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 4: It's like elevated cocktail attire? 632 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I got the dress. I just thought it 633 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: was Susan when all the girls were here. I got 634 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: the dress. 635 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: All right, we're good, and thanks to all our listeners. 636 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: And I'll bet you're all gonna be curious to see 637 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: some pictures from this event. 638 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: This is gonna be something else. 639 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: And be sure to keep following Bachelor Happy Hour as 640 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: we have new episodes and new guests coming out every 641 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 3: week and you don't want to miss. 642 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: That is so true. Okay, Well, listen to Bachelor Happy 643 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you 644 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: listen to your podcasts. Until next time, have a great week.