1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast really support Josh Rosen. Welcome 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast presented 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: by Sirius XM. My name is Dan Hansis and I 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: am joined in a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Gregg Rose withal What is up? Boys? Hey, 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: danno up? By the way, Josh Rosen, can I just 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: say and keep those Matt money drops coming? The chosen one, 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: the Rosen one. It's not a good look. By the 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: way that he's buried on this death drop behind Ryan Fitzpatrick. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: It's not like he's an actual rookie anymore. Go win 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: a job against the thirty six year old Ryan Fitzpatrick 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: and training camp and it's already being set up by 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: floors in Miami. I know we jumped into the fish 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: tank real quick tonight, but it's being set up. Is 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: this is like a done deal, like he's their backup quarterback. 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: It's not a great look. I agree with you, it's 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: not a great look. This should be an open and 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: chuck case for Josh Rosen. If he's as good as 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: everyone said he was coming out. He's a young man. 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Fitzpatrick was quoted this week saying, I 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: feel more comfortable with myself and my game right now 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: than I ever have. And you know what, when it 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: comes to I don't doubt it. I I think he's 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: always felt comfortable with himself, but now he's just he 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: loves his life, he loves being Ryan Fitzpatrick, and maybe 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: it's showing up on the field. We shot something today 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: with Neil Reynolds over at the nfl UK, our friend 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: from Sky Sports, great man Neil, and I noticed in 29 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 1: the studio lights a glistening off nicely manicured Greg Rosital beard. 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: It's like, why is it glistening? So the product confirmed, Yeah, 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: little beard oils in there, WHOA keeps it from getting 32 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, itchy and whatnot. So you have a special 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: comb aim directly for your beard exclusively. I know I 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: don't have any combs. Put the oil on your hand 35 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: and then so they say, yeah, yeah, but if you're 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: a good time buddies from tu Lane, so you probably 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: spent some time behind bars with What would they think 38 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: about this new trend towards your hipster identity. I mean 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: I think they would embrace it. Really, It's I don't 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: know if that's my wife does not embrace it. So 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: I think it has a short shelf life and it's 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: gonna be gone for the season. What was her complaint? 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: We know, because she told you to go on a 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: show and tell everybody that you wear the pants in 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: the relationship, that you wear the pants in the relationship. Well, 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: I've it's it's made it. You know, I've done it 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: despite her wishes for months and months. But I feel like, 48 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: what doesn't she like about it? Well, you know, mommy, 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: coming back from you're like, when you're like that when 50 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: you're playing tonsil hockey with your wife, that you got 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: a promontory point for that one. All right, propatory point. 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: I think. I think it's just the great thing about 53 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: this podcast is like their friends, even off the here, 54 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: they'll be having this conversation downstairs. Listen to those bros 55 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: chop it up all right. Coming up on today's show, 56 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: the Wednesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast, UM, 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: Chris Westling wrote a banger and you know, he was 58 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: a little sheepish about his banger the last banger we 59 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: spoke about, but this one he pounds a table for. 60 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: He believes in it. Yeah, you're a Absolutely. I think 61 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: that banger has been thrown around loosely lately, especially towards 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: my work, but this one is is a certifiable banger. 63 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: Five new play callers with make or break potential. Uh. 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: That does sound like a saucy banger. So we're gonna 65 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: dig into that and the coaches that WES will be 66 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: tracking closely in the twenty nineteen season. But before that, 67 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: here's what we're hearing, presented by Sirius XM. Let's do 68 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: some news for key and now in the sib NFL 69 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: Pro Football's Most Informative Hour with your host Latn Dawson, 70 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: Nick Boncani, and Chris Collins. Word yes. First of all, 71 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: that's Harry callis yes from Philly, absolutely, who was the 72 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: voiceover guy for HBO Films Forever h HBO Sports. And 73 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: um yes, Nick Bonacani, who had an incredible playing career 74 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: in the NFL. He was a member linebacker of the 75 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two undefeated Dolphins. He was inducted into the 76 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame. Played with both the Miami 77 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: Dolphins and the Boston Patriots. He passed away at the 78 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: age of seventy eight UM on Tuesday, and uh, I 79 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: just wanted to say in the reason I played that 80 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: is I grew up. How I became an NFL fan 81 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: really was you know, watching the Jets with my dad. 82 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: But then also where I learned about the NFL was 83 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: HBO and Inside the NFL and Bonocantti and Len Dawson 84 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: and later Collinsworth. They were your guide to take you 85 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: through all the games. Is before the internet, you know, 86 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: this is before you would have easy access to what 87 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: was going on around the league and you would have 88 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: NFL films going through each game. And in fact that 89 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: I feel like that show was the blueprint for our 90 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: podcast and going through every game on Sunday nights are 91 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: flagship show. So Inside the NFL very important show for 92 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: me and a lot of people. Mark, I know we've 93 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: talked about that show before and and Bonacatti was a 94 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: big part of it. Uh So, I'm sure he will 95 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: be missed. At the age of seventy eight, Nick Bonacatti 96 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: passes away, I feel the same way you do about 97 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: that show, and it was you know, that was back 98 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: during a time when you know, my brother and I 99 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: would fight over the sports page in the morning because 100 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: it's the only content out there now. That feels like 101 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: an absurd that anyone would fight over a newspaper of 102 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: any level. But but but kind of like he he 103 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: was a great communicator. And you know, we're we're too 104 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: young to have known him as a player, But think 105 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: of how many like young people now will know Tony 106 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: Romo for the next fifteen twenty years because of his 107 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: ability to communicate. And so you know, he he also 108 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: he had a son that was paralyzed at age nineteen, right, 109 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 1: and he raised he went on to raise a ton 110 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: of money for research and paralysis. So there was a 111 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: lot of angles and and factors and Nassett's hundreds of 112 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: millions of dollars for the Miami Project a cure paralysis. 113 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: A great Patriot too, I mean, it was part of 114 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of all NFL teams. Was part of their team. 115 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: It was the they did make a championship game in 116 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: the sixties and the a f L. He was part 117 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: of that team. And he's from Springfield, the town right 118 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: next to where I grew up. So I mean he 119 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: had he had a great Patriots career and a great 120 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: Dolphins career. Awesome, all right, let's get into it. The news. 121 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and the Saints. They get it done. Thank God. 122 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: The worst, the worst headlines, the worst storylines to talk 123 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: about in July and August are the holdouts. There's just 124 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: no there's no juice to it. But it's important to 125 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: talk about because they're superstar players. So whenever the deal 126 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: gets done, it's good for everybody. A five year, one 127 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: million dollar contract extension UM that includes sixty one millions 128 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: a million and guarantees that from rap sheet UM. Thompson 129 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: sat out the start of Saints training camp. He wanted 130 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: a new deal. UM. Instead, he jumps out of that 131 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: hold out list that still includes Zeke Elliott, Melvin Gordon, 132 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: uh Trent Williams and others. Twenty six years old, now 133 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: sits a top wide receiver market, surpassing what Odell Beckham 134 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: makes eighteen million per year average. Greg Thomas um, he 135 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: has really exploded onto the scene and he certainly deserves 136 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: to be in that conversation of the best wide receivers 137 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: in the league. Maybe he's not always brought up, but 138 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: he certainly should be there. He should be has not 139 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: many people match the physicality that he has, and he 140 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: has maybe one of the the like most physical bodies 141 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: just in terms of cornerbacks can't get around him and 142 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: he can just box him out with deep speed with 143 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's what was surprised a lot 144 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: of people in the NFL. That's why he felt to 145 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: the second round that he could be such a big playmaker, 146 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: and he is. He He breaks up a lot of 147 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: the when they don't leave a safety deep. Thomas will 148 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: kill you over the top and he's earned it in 149 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: the age of analytics. He's He's a guy who's nickname 150 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: could be positive outcome. He was the most reliable past 151 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: completion positive play in football last year as the security 152 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: blanket for Sean Payton and Drew Brees. I think he's 153 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: battling with DeAndre Hopkins to be decide which one is 154 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: the new Larry Fitzgerald. I just want to mention who 155 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: has taken in front of him in that in that 156 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: at wide receiver out, Corey Coleman, Josh Dotson, Lakwan Treadwell. 157 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: Those are at least the first round picks, with tom 158 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: Us going midway eight through the second round. You remember 159 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: in the eighties, UM in early nineties speaking of inside 160 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: the NFL in that era when they had the NFL posters, 161 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: and it would be you know, ridiculous, like Dome patrol 162 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: for the Saints, or like the Giants would be the 163 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: bad fellows and they'd be dressed like gangsters West. You're 164 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: positive outcome, can't you just picture Michael Thomas would be 165 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: like calculators everywhere, spreadsheets, spreadsheets all around on your bedsheets, 166 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: and he's just wearing like a sleeveless shirt in his 167 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: football pants. Can make that for us. The artistic listeners 168 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: out there help us out, positive out. It will never 169 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: beat the Donny Ball game, the hit Man, which hangs 170 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: in my garage to this day. Anyway, the and just 171 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: so you know, I mean, if you're not aware, if 172 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: you don't know, now you know Michael Thomas last season 173 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: one six nine t d s and no wide receiver 174 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: ever has had as many UM catches in his first 175 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: three years three So he entered the league as a star. 176 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: He's got nuclear now he's a superstar. Now he's paid 177 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: like one pretty good player, pretty first time they've really 178 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: had a guy like that in all the years of 179 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, a guy dominate that didn't never have the 180 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: numbers like that though nothing close ms I'm saying dominating 181 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: the ball and being a top of fight again. You 182 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: always thought it was a spread the wealth type of offense. 183 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: They didn't need a number one receiver. Jimmy Graham had 184 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: some years. They were every bit as good as Michael 185 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: Thomas his last year. Scientists going at it in a 186 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: big spot. Um, West, you know what, You're gonna get 187 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: a little uncofortable in your chair right now because I'm 188 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: gonna talk about something dangerous around the Indianapolis Colts Andrew 189 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: lux calf injury. It's lingering. The Colts quarterback sat out 190 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: Tuesday's practice session. Uh. Frank Reich, the Colts coach, said. 191 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: Reporter said, Uh, Luck will not participate in the next 192 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: two practices and ruled him out to play in the 193 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: team's first preseason game. Um, it's a nagging injury. It's 194 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: been around for three months. Per NFL Networks Tom Placero, 195 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: there are no more doctor appointments, scans or surgery skeltered 196 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: for Luck. Um, but it's been labeled a castring and 197 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: kind of a setback that he's not ready to play 198 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: football yet. Where's your peace scale? At West? One is 199 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: completely dry? Ten underpants soaked. I was hoping you would 200 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: ask this exact question. The peace scale, it's about a one. 201 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean compared last year when it 202 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: was a nine point nine because of his shoulder. This 203 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: is this pales in comparison to last year. Is concerned. 204 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: He said he's played through worse pain. Basically, they said 205 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: if he had to play tomorrow, he'd be he'd be 206 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: all right to play. He's got five or what five 207 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: or six weeks before the season starts out. It doesn't 208 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: bother you at all that he's had an injury for 209 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: three months that has not gotten better. It doesn't bother me. 210 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, especially when they said, like previously that he 211 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: would be ready for training game and we're very confident. 212 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: I would put it higher because Andrew Luck sounds like 213 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: he's higher. He sounded practically dejected when he said it's 214 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: going backwards. He said the injury was going backwards, and 215 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: he was frustrated because it's been it's been months and 216 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's serious. But it's like a 217 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: four one. There's still some still some triples of your 218 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: one that's on the rise, so West, you know, I 219 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: would Jake Brisket, I'd say just get him loose and 220 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: keep him ready. God, I hope I don't have to 221 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: watch him play for a whole year, but this is 222 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: obviously something to watch and we talked about it on 223 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: the show that they cited the Kevin Durant injury. Um 224 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: as you know, a template in terms of be extra 225 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: careful with this. Last thing we need is Andrew Luck 226 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: suffering another serious injury. So it makes all the sense 227 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: in the world to bring him along extra slow. But 228 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: how about some positive development? I just feeling nice. Nothing 229 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: good comes from training camp at all, just negative which 230 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: on that very top like a j Green. Yes, he 231 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: was injured in the first or the practice of training 232 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: camp at that field with all the pebbles on it. Uh, 233 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: he will miss regular multiple regular season games, which is 234 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: not the outlook that was originally presented. He underwent ankle 235 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: surgery on Tuesday, and when they went in there to 236 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: check it out, they realized the damage is a little 237 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: bit more uh severe than anticipated. So it went from 238 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: the hope that he would be ready for Week one 239 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: to expected to miss multiple regular season games. Rap Sheet reported. 240 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, the new Bengals coach, confirmed UH that it 241 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: is going to be a bit of time on the 242 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: shelf first superstar wide receiver. Uh and yes, by the way, 243 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: Cincinnati follows an opening a week one trip to Seattle 244 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: with games against the Niners, Bills, and Steelers, so they 245 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: could use their best player and they're not gonna have 246 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: him for at least the first couple of games. It 247 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: looks like maybe more. I was taken Isaac Taylor immediately 248 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: putting that timeline out there, almost as um away to 249 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: send the signal to Green like take you know, we're 250 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: behind you, and it's like a player friendly move. We're 251 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: gonna put this timetable out as far as possible. Coaches 252 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: usually don't do that, saying, oh, he's definitely gonna miss 253 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: some games in the regular season, Like don't rush it. 254 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: You know, if he comes back earlier than that, then 255 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: then you can look like a hero and that'll be 256 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: a pleasant surprise. But I thought it was interesting he 257 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: went out of his way to kind of take the 258 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: pressure off. Moving on, Trent Williams, where is he out 259 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: with the Redskins. It's not good. Everything we're hearing is 260 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: negative that it is a um relationship that is fractured 261 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: beyond repair. Well the athletics. Jeff how reports that the 262 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: Redskins are quote having trade discussions regarding Williams. Um and 263 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: how added that the Patriots Greg give Boys expected to 264 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: be in the mix if Williams does hit the market. Uh, 265 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: he's on the record, Williams saying he's not gonna play 266 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: for the Redskins anymore. So if this is as bad 267 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: as it seems, we could see a trade coming where yes, 268 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: he's thirty one, he's had some issues, injury issues, but um, 269 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: these type of offensive lineman west don't typically you know, 270 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: wiggle free this close to the start of the season. 271 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: I would imagine it would be a very healthy market, 272 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: especially for a contender or a team in dire straits 273 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: at offensive line like your Cincinnati Bengals that would never 274 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: do that, but teams that could use a left tackle. 275 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a market if he's out there. Houston 276 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Texans come to mind, the guy they drafted in the 277 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: first round has been playing guard, not tackle, uh, Titus Howard, 278 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: So they come to mind. Um, it seems that in 279 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: the past forty eight hours finally not dawned on the Redskins, 280 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: but they've accepted the fact that Trent Williams is probably 281 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: not gonna play for them, so we might as well 282 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: start listening to trades. They signed Donald Penn, and when 283 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: Donald Penn spoke to the media, he said, I didn't 284 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: like playing right tackle last year. I wasn't comfortable with it. 285 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm coming to the Redskins to play left tackle. They 286 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: must know something that we don't know that Trent Williams 287 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: isn't coming back. Man, it's just a terrible situation for 288 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins for whoever is playing quarterback for that team, 289 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: because I already view the Redskins is one of the Offensively, 290 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: there's just not a lot to love. There's not a 291 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: lot of weapons, and last year I feel like they 292 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: were basically a run a running team with a tight 293 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: with a with heavy you know, passing options to the 294 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: tight end. They didn't did nothing going on. It's not 295 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: a good situation for a rookie quarterback. I would go 296 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: as far as to say Greg that this would be 297 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: a blessing in disguise for the Redskins to trade Trent Williams. 298 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: But and certainly one of these are the circumstances. It 299 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: deflates your you know, your ability to get high value 300 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: back for him. But he's a thirty one year old 301 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: left tackle for a team that's probably at least a 302 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: couple of years away. The idea of trading him and 303 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: getting good value back is not the worst things for 304 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: a Redskins team in transition. Depends what's good value. Though 305 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: he's their best player or he has been there is this? 306 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: Is this playoff team next year or this year? No, 307 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: but he's their best player. And okay, are the Texans 308 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: going to give up a first round pick for him? 309 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: A second round pick? Maybe? I mean with health concerns. 310 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean to me, I wouldn't trade Trent Williams unless 311 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: you got a second round pick. He's too Like what 312 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: why is that helping? You? Just let him sit out 313 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: all you see what happens. I don't know they call 314 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: call the bluff on that. I think they could get something. 315 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Dwayne Brown got a second round pick at 316 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: mid season. Why can't Trent Williams. Trent Williams, who do 317 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: we trust to win the have a have forty million? 318 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: Why all these teams have so much cap space, spend it? 319 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: Spend it on Trent Williams. If it's if it's the Patriots, 320 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: who do you trust to win the deal? Here? Bill 321 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 1: Belichick or Bruce Ellen. Doug Williams is on the phone too. 322 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: You know you got trust Doug. I'm a little surprised 323 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: that if the Patriots got in there, but their first 324 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: round pick from a year ago, Isaiah Win still not practicing. 325 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: So right now they have uh Joe Tooney, who's their 326 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: left guard, playing left tackle for the most part, so 327 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: it could be a problem. And the other news to 328 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: take out of this that yes, it does continue to streak. 329 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: It's been going on for the last seven forty seven 330 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: high level veterans that hit the trade market to immediately 331 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: be attached to the Patriots as a potential suitor. Just 332 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: the record, it's a record that will never be It's 333 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: it's Cal Ripken baseball and baseball. It's the Yankees and 334 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: they that's been the case since the nineties, that they 335 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: been the case since that's that's true. Although your boy, 336 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, what are you doing trading for Trevor Bauers? 337 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: Did you want him? I forgot every superstar in Major 338 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: League Baseball is ultimately ticket for the Yankees because they're 339 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: the only game in town. And it's cute that you 340 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: guys fancy yourself contenders, but you know, stay out of 341 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: the you know, big playbox. Well, the oldest team in 342 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: baseball thinks it's allowed to win games too. Unexpected British here, sorry, 343 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: furiously googling and Trevor Bauer right now. I don't know 344 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: if you're gonna like Trevor Bauer. I read up on 345 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: him a lot last night, and you could not create 346 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: in a lay any anything or anyone with a more 347 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: galling personality than this guy. Yeah, he's a real menace 348 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: on Twitter as well. Oh my god, I think he's 349 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: a sociopath from the very absolutely. It's just gonna be 350 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: hard to root for a shutout from that guy every 351 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: time out. Alright. In other news, Mark, why didn't you 352 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: jump in there? You've been active on Twitter with baseball 353 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: stuff recently. You know, my baseball content it arrives when 354 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: it arrives, not when it's asked for. Although that that 355 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: reminds me of interaction we had walking up here where 356 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: uh Andy, Greg who's big time direct giant, exact giant, 357 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: uh you know, because he's so tall of his nickname, 358 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 1: just walked this by and he's like Sessler. I've been 359 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: tweeting out some weird lately. Well, you know, I love. 360 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: The people think that I only know about football and 361 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: that I don't have a rich history covering baseball as well. 362 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: Moving on the Cowboys back in business with Alfred Morris. Uh, 363 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: this deal comes of course at a time uh when 364 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: Dallas could use more bodies in their backfield at running 365 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: back as a potential protracted hold out with Zekiel Elliott 366 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: goes on. So thirty years old, alf Morris, you know 367 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: he's he's had moments, He's had moments, and it's been 368 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: thirty years old for seven years. That's fair. Uh. Yeah, 369 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: I accidentally called him Albert Morris our last show and 370 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: that we're talking about his rookie season that was two 371 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: thousand twelve, But it feels like he's been in the 372 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: league since about He's one of those guys. But he 373 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: actually did some things a couple of years ago with Dallas. 374 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: Um in um limited duty and you could do worse. 375 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: Probably probably could do better, but you do worse. Also, 376 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: nice little insurance policy. He knows that knows the system there. Um. 377 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: James later reported something interesting on Tuesday that her sources 378 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: from Dallas told her the Cowboys do not like the 379 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: way Todd Girl's contract was structured and they want to 380 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: reset the market rather than set the market. And she 381 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: had she said they're not close that you know, there's 382 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, some chatter about they didn't love the look 383 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: that he's in Cabo right now working out this. It 384 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: is a good test case of whether Levan Bell really 385 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: did uh potentially changed the way players are are thinking, 386 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: because Gordon and Zeke in theory, you know, could could 387 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: do the Bell playbook, not the whole season, but maybe 388 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: actually missing some games in theory, if he actually has 389 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: changed their minds at all, I mean, I think it 390 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: was the other show a couple of a couple of 391 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: shows ago when I mentioned that the only holdout that 392 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: had me concerned at all was not this one. And 393 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: I am this is starting to get on my on 394 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: my radar a little bit as a nettlesome issue. Well, 395 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: put Mark, that's what's happened, like making just you gotta 396 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: make a comment at some point, but the topic, that's 397 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: what's happening in the news, all right, So uh, it's 398 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: like crap, now I have to say something. It's like that. 399 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: It's like a window into Marks in turn like interior. 400 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: Oh shoot, I better say so soon they're gonna know 401 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: they can't do They can do it without me easily. Um. 402 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the news. Alright, So 403 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: West he's back. Um, a bit of a soft launch 404 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: for the banger Um in the Banger zone for West 405 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: with his last piece. But now he is all training 406 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: camp has done. You know, he got some reps in 407 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: week three of the preseason. Um, you know he met 408 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: with his trainers, He took all the right supplements. Then 409 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: he gets suspended. He is ready for football, new start 410 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: up to camp. A little overweight there, Yeah, I gotta 411 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: this was an exercise and knocking the rust off for me. 412 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: I've got to learn about Kellen Moore, you know, I've 413 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: got to learn about what Chuck Pagano did last time 414 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: he was defensive coordinator. That's good. So what did West 415 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: right about? He wrote about the um assistant coaches in 416 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: new places that really are gonna be big factors with 417 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: their teams. And I imagine West, these are teams that 418 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: uh fancy themselves super Bowl contenders, so there could be 419 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: a make or break element uh to um these gentlemen 420 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: and their presidence with these teams. Want to get into 421 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: the list because well, I have a feeling that one 422 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: person on this list will not be a Super Bowl 423 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: contender in the eyes of you three Rich Denver Broncos 424 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: offensive Why don't call him Sangs in the article? Alright, 425 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: so tell us about Skanks. He is. He's the new 426 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator of the Broncos. Gary Kubiak of course, who 427 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: will talk about later. Uh seem to have some type 428 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: of falling out might be strong but disagreement or philosophical 429 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: break with John Elway. So he left the team, uh 430 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: and took his his um hair, his gorgeous hair to Minnesota. 431 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: But Skangs is there's the o C to us about 432 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: what do you think about's going on there? Well, Skangs 433 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: is only the o C because l John Elway got 434 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: on the phone to another Stanford legend, John Lynch, and 435 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: basically coaxed him in to allowing the Broncos to interview Skangs. Uh. 436 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: So he had to promise that they he was the 437 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: lead candidate, that he was probably going to get the 438 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: job when they hired him. This guy comes from the 439 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan tree um and I think that Mike Monchek, 440 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: the offensive line coach, is just as important of a 441 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: hire as Scangarrello. He has he's he's one of the 442 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: most respected line coaches in the NFL. The Steelers were 443 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: top seven in d v o A all five years 444 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: that he was running the offensive line in Pittsburgh. And 445 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: this is the team with the second most blown blocks 446 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL last year, the Broncos. They've got at 447 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: least two new starters in Juwan James at right tackle, 448 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: Dalton Risner the rookie at guard, and Flacco had the 449 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: lowest rating passer rating under pressure in the NFL last season, 450 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: so it's very wharton for him not to be under 451 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: constant pressure. I feel like between Skangs and mun Check, 452 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: this will be an improved offense, much improved. They're gonna 453 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: have a lot of new starters on this team. I 454 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: like when teams have kind of a connection to the 455 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: schemes that they've run throughout their history, and this is 456 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: very much a Denver Broncos type of offense. I mean, 457 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: it's very much a Mike Shannon, which is Look, it's 458 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: still working, as you can see with Kyle Shannon and 459 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: the influence he's had with John McVeigh and everyone else 460 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: across the lake. But what a what a come up 461 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: for this guy. He was the Wagner offensive coordinator. Three 462 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: years ago. Wagner, he was at Millsaps like five, seven, 463 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: eight years ago. So mil SAPs is another college also 464 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: the last name of it's a female prep school in Iowa. 465 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets power forward. Uh So, I mean he I 466 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: think he's the guy that Kyle Shanahan really like loved 467 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: and that, and I think that word got around the league. 468 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: And now he's in Mark. What do you give me 469 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: to bathing in the knowledge that West is just pouring 470 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: out on us right here? So next gangs, All right, 471 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: let's talk about Gary Kubiak. It didn't work out in Denver, 472 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: Um they couldn't figure out a way, uh to do it. 473 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: So he goes to Minnesota. And this is a situation 474 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: where offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski he'll still have the gig 475 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: and he'll still be calling the plays, but West Kubiak 476 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: is gonna be I mean, that offense is gonna look 477 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: different if Gary Kubiak is in town. Talk about a 478 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: dream higher. I mean, Stefanski's calling the plays. But they 479 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: not only brought in Kubiak, they brought in Rick Dennison, 480 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: Kubiak's longtime right hand man who manages the running game. Uh, 481 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: they brought in They brought in Click Kubiak for quarterbacks. 482 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: Coach Kubiak. I mean they bring in all these guys 483 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: because they're implementing Gary Kubiak system, a system which is 484 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: Taylor made not only for Kirk Cousins but also for 485 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cooking. That offensive line. There aren't going to be 486 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: seventh jep blocks, there's or seven step drops um the 487 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: law offensive line, we have more time, they won't be 488 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: under as much pressure with all the rollouts and bootlegs 489 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna have. Kirk Cousins is the only quarterback with 490 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: a thousand passing yards and a better passer rating on 491 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: play action throws in each of the past four years, 492 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: which is the foundation of Kubiak's offense. I feel like 493 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: this is just a perfect You talk about the problem 494 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: last year, Mike Zimmer's desire for a run oriented attack 495 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: versus an offensive line that couldn't pull it off, and 496 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: John d Filippa, who's always been a very pass heavy 497 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: play caller. You bring in a guy who marries the 498 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: run in the past as well as anybody has for 499 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: the past couple of decades, Gary Kubia. That was your slot. Mark, 500 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't play that. I was gonna 501 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: jump in, of course, but I decided reference Mark Restferendce 502 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: a slot, and now all I can think about is 503 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: Mark slot. Dan you here's what happened though, and he 504 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: is wrapping up. I gave Marco look that was like, okay, 505 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: you go. I knew what. I thought that I was 506 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: gonna jump on it because this was your topic on 507 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: the sky Sports hit. Yeah. Think you are a Gary 508 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: Kubiak believer. We did, Yes. I I believe in the 509 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: Vikings for game Pass, which everyone should buy a game 510 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: Pass Europe. I think it's especially for the overseas listeners, 511 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: so people should buy American. You can show up I 512 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: think closer to the the NFL season, but it's a 513 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: it's a big season previous. I think, you know what. 514 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: I think the Vikings are so primed for a bounce 515 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: back season, and I think it helps him so much 516 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: that last year, after the Minneapolis miracle and then getting Cousins, 517 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: which seemed like an obvious upgrade over case, keenum that 518 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: they would be a team that would get to the 519 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Finally get back to the super Bowl, and 520 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: they kind of wilted. It felt under that and Cousins 521 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: didn't live up to expectations, even if his numbers UH 522 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: seemed as strong as always UH This year, though, they 523 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: seem to be lying in the weeds in the NFC. 524 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: And and I think West, everything you're adding is just 525 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: adds more fuel fuel to that fire and my feeling 526 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: that this is a team. This to me, they could 527 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: be a twelve and four team if that offense gains 528 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: more consistency. I believe in that defense, I believe in 529 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: that home field advantage. It's one of the best in 530 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: the NFL. They seem to be a potential NFC monster. 531 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: There was just a stink on them from the early 532 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: part of the earliest reports we heard of d Filippo 533 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: and Zimmer not being on the same page, and I 534 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: think it it kind of rotted that team from the 535 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: inside out. And so this feels like Zimmer's got his guy, 536 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: his guys, Cubs, Coup's two point oh the Sun. I 537 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: don't know what he looks like, but I mean it 538 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: sounds good. I mean, I think they are a bounced 539 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: back type team. He brings it on too. I That's 540 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: why it sounds like, that's why he left Denver. Is Ultimately, 541 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: when you hire Cubs, you don't just have Cubs, you 542 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: have Dennison. You gotta all go on the payroll. It's 543 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: like hiring the star and you gotta find like a 544 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: job for like lebron James is like you know, third 545 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: best friend or whatever. And that's why he ended up 546 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. And he's got a great running back to 547 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: build the round in Dalvin Cook, who I think wasn't 548 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: a totally back from the a cl but still looked 549 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: quite good last year and we'll be even better this year. 550 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: Look at kubi x track record. He has turned a 551 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: slew of undrafted guys and late round picks into thousand 552 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: yard rushers. Now he's got a second round pick in 553 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook. Let's connect again back with the Broncos. The 554 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: Broncos are connected to all these It's like a Kevin 555 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: Bacon situation. Well, this is the Shanahan family is running 556 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: through this entire list. Interesting, So yes, I just brought 557 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: up case kien Keenum he went from Minnesota to Denver, 558 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: and Kubiak he went from Denver to Minnesota. Minnesota. Now 559 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: Chuck Pagano, he replaces Vic Fagio who went from Chicago 560 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: to Denver. He is the new defensive coordinator of Duck 561 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: Bear's trademark. Me your thoughts was, well, this is the 562 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: one that this instigated the article, um thinking about Chuck 563 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: Pagano because you lose Vic Fngio. Who is I think, 564 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: along with Wave Phillips, the most most respected defensive mind 565 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: in the game right now. Well, Bill Belichick sort of 566 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: on an island up there by himself, but you know, 567 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: throwing Romeo Crennell is another guy who's respected. But we 568 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: don't really know what Chuck Pogano is. He had one 569 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: year's defensive coordinator with the Ravens where they finished third 570 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: in defense with ray Lewis, ed Reid, Terrell Suggs, and 571 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: then he went to the Colts and he never really 572 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: had much talent to work with on defense. Now he's 573 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: token over a defense that is almost sure to regress 574 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: to the mean just because they had a sky high 575 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: turnover rate, lost very few games to injury last year, 576 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: and cannot and fiftcent of drives with an interception like 577 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: they did last year, especially with a slight drop off 578 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: in talent in that secondary. The problem with taking a 579 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: job like that is that they invariably will regress back 580 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: to the mean with the turnover stuff, and they need 581 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: that defense every week to make up for their offense. 582 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: I felt like, and if you're if you are in 583 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: the situation Pagano, you're gonna get blamed from the earliest 584 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: part of the season if it doesn't go well. That's 585 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: over something for someone who floundered before me. You come 586 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: in and you look at on the other hand, when 587 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: you have a chance to work with Cleo Max and 588 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: Keem Hicks, Rokuan Smith, Dany Danny Travis, I mean, they're 589 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: they're absolutely loaded, Eddie Jackson, Kyle for they are loaded, 590 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: and yet I think it's a tough spot to go 591 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: to for Pagano. You know. Dan pompeirot a good article 592 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: this week on The Athletic about the Bears, just that 593 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: the teams that return all their starters and the expectations 594 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: are there. Sometimes those are the ones I'm worried about. 595 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: There's not there's no longer like them, there's no competition 596 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: that all the starting spots are back. They were kind 597 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: of hungry and trying to prove everything. I think Naggy, 598 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: that's such an amazing job. Can he create that many 599 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: plays again, but defensively, it's just proven statistically that is 600 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 1: tough to stay that dominance at that hungry. On paper though, 601 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: they are the best. I don't think like you need 602 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: to try to come up with some hot take that 603 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: there's some other team. They are the best on paper. 604 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm interested in your number number four in your list. 605 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: And again Chris Westling rhoda banger. Five new coaches with 606 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: make er big potential. So the Falcons, we all know 607 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: what happened. Kyle Shanahan new coaches. Okay, presided over an 608 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: offense that was historically great in the season in Atlanta 609 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: when they went to the Super Bowl and nearly won 610 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: the damn thing before collapsing. Um, he he leaves, gets 611 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: the gig in San Francisco head coach job. So Steve 612 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: Sarkisian comes in and he never kind of was able 613 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: to match it. He was never able to match the magic, 614 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: even though they did score points, just wasn't special. So 615 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: what do they do West? They bring back guys that 616 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: were familiar to Matt Ryan and company before that amazing 617 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen season, which is almost to say, I 618 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: don't know from the perspective and outside perspective. Maybe we'll 619 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: never capture lightning the bottle like did in sixteen, but 620 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: we liked what we were before Kyle Shandahan got there. 621 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: We didn't like the Sarkasian version of us. Let's try. 622 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: Let's as you wrote, go back to the future. First 623 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: four years and Mett Ryan's career as coordinator was Mike Malarkey. 624 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: Next three years, his coordinator was Dirk Cutter. Falcons hired 625 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: both of them this year, one to coordinate the passing game, 626 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: the other to coordinate the running game, and dan Quinn 627 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: cited continuity. Basically, they want to run the system Matt 628 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: Ryan's been running while he's been a top five or 629 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: six quarterback the last three or four years, rather than 630 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: going back to what Dirk Cutter was doing. Uh and 631 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: Dirk Cutter's um. He runs an Air Coryell like vertical 632 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: spread scheme that should be pretty similar to what they 633 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: were running before, so it shouldn't be a big change. UM. 634 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: But I think what they're gonna find is, even though 635 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: they were a top ten offense during Dirk Cutters first 636 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: time around, Matt Ryan's a different quarterback now. He was 637 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: a much more conservative passer. His average depth of target 638 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: was always kind of bottom third in the league, and 639 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: now he is one of the most prolific downfield bomb 640 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: throwers in the NFL. He he is excellent at it. 641 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: It has been for three years. I mean, if we 642 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: talk about the Vikings as a bounce back team, I 643 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: go Falcons because a lot obviously went wrong healthwise for 644 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: them last year. But but Cutter and like Matt Ryan 645 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: have proven that they can get along well and and 646 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: work with each other, and that's a huge factor in 647 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. And another option, I guess it's you'd have 648 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: to be monking around with the categories here, you know, 649 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: and new coaches. But Dan Quinn, I mean, Dan Quinn's 650 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator right now. They didn't hire anyone. He's 651 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: under pressure because he fired all his coordinators. Peter King 652 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 1: point out, I think it was from football outsiders. Actually 653 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: they were the first team since the nine Colts to 654 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: fire all three of their coordinators and keep their head coach, 655 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: which is crazy. And he's fired a lot of coordinators 656 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: over here, and then he put himself in as a 657 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. So to me, there's a lot of pressure 658 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: on Quinn to to deliver with that young group. I 659 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: guess I was a Falcons fan. I'd feel pretty good 660 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: about that. If you trust those offensive minds. And as 661 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: you you remember, if you know the NFL, that Quinn 662 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: was the d C of that historically great Seahawks team. 663 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: So he's got it in them to scheme it up, 664 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: asked Peyton Manning. I like the moves, I like all 665 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: the moment I think a huge thing in Atlanta too, 666 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: is you've used two first round picks onlineman and if 667 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: they hit, if that works out, you've you've added big 668 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: strength to that team. Finally, West, tell us why when 669 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: you talk about the Dallas Cowboys offense, you could, you know, 670 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: waddle on in Maybe if you're not us, you're right 671 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: fitman uh, and you swing open those doors and welcome 672 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: to the last chance saloon. As you put it well, Well, 673 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett is in the last year of his contract. Uh. 674 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: Super Bowl clock is ticking with Jason Whitten and Sean 675 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: Lee who are possibly in the last year of their 676 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: legendary careers. In Dallas, the offensive line nucleus, which the 677 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: whole thing is built around, is creeping away from its prime, 678 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: especially at left tackle and maybe at center. UM and 679 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: you have a stable of young stars in need of 680 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: huge contracts, the sands running through the hourglass. Here it's 681 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: time and Scott Linahan, who was actually Kellen Moore's mentor 682 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: in both Detroit and Dallas, was sort of scapegoated for 683 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: having a stale offense. I think um Freddie Kitchens, Brown's 684 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: coach said this at the end of last year. When 685 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: you're running offense these days, defenses are so athletic, so speedy, 686 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: it's really important pre snap to give them a moment's hesitation. 687 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: And that's what Kellen Moore is supposed to do here. 688 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: He not only comes from lenahan scheme, he comes from 689 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: Boise State, where they have a wide array of formation 690 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: shifts and motions. And I think you're gonna see the 691 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: same foundation, the same philosophy that Lenahan used, just with 692 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: a lot more options before the snap to try to 693 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: confuse defense. I'm looking forward to a new coach in 694 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's here and everything that we've heard, I think 695 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: we talked about a little bit, but dani Orlovsky, who 696 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: had time with Kellen Moore, talking about what he's implementing 697 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: is sounding a lot more like closer to Cliff Kingsbury 698 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: than it really is to Scott Lenahan, and I think 699 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: he's laser focused on making all the things that that 700 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: does well, especially the deep ball and throwing on the move, 701 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: accentuating that and I and I, for whatever reason, I 702 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 1: don't think they were getting the most out of dock 703 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: last couple of years. And I'm more excited, you know, 704 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: to watch this offense undercoun. I love this story because, 705 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who coach his son. 706 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: Right away. They talked about how his acumen, his smartest 707 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: creativity were an asset, but he wasn't much of a player. 708 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: But it's crazy to think that he was just playing 709 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and he's now running an 710 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: NFL offense. You don't see that kind of rise very quickly. 711 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: He was his own quarterback's backup. I mean, he's coaching 712 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott now, and he Prescott was elevated because Kellen 713 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: Moore broke his ankle on one of the first days 714 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: of training camp, having happened to be there that day, 715 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: and suddenly everyone is crowding around this fourth round pick, 716 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott because hey, you're gonna have to be the backup, 717 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 1: and you know, as we found out a few weeks later, 718 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: he was gonna have to be the starter. That was 719 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: one of my favorite plot points of Greggy does Dallas. 720 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: The things you hear about people don't usually talk about 721 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: the plot that much, but it's underrated sets everything up 722 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: to ship. The things you hear about Sean McVeigh. You 723 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: hear about Kellen Moore. You know, John Kittner said he 724 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: had a beautiful mind. Dak Prescott said he's one of 725 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: the quote young genius phenomens in the game. Kellen Moore 726 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: kello is only thirty years old. It's just crazy. So 727 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: like Jason Garrett's the man who will replace Jason Garrett 728 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: if they don't get Sean Payton. Well he was nine 729 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: when they hired him. Wow, that is wild. They've got 730 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 1: Chris for Shard on defense, who really took over play 731 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 1: calling from Rob Maryland Marinelli last year even though Marionelli's 732 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: the coordinator. So they've got a couple of head coaching candidates. Well, 733 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: check it out NFL dot com slash Westling uh to 734 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: see all those all that analysis in one place. Uh. 735 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: I guess while we're here, Gregg, you've been writing your 736 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: training camp pieces winners and losers that are a weekly 737 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: seg basically yeah, sunder they go. It goes up Monday mornings, 738 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: some winners and losers, big recap of the training camp 739 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: week that was. Um, the old zuser will have a 740 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: Friday calm to be determined, and then Hard Knocks recaps 741 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: return on Tuesday when Hard Knox is back covering the 742 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders. So I think we'll be like that eighth 743 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: year I'm doing it. This is getting ridiculous now. Um, 744 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 1: you would think at some point your career advances past 745 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: certain things, but no, it's just it's hit this nice 746 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: little plateau and just sits where it is and we 747 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: just coast along deeper and deeper into our lives. I'm 748 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: not complaining mark anything for you. On the horizon, a 749 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: new column that will be featured every week is beginning 750 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 1: in a week or two. I'll tell you. There's some 751 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: ideas by the original content team, and one of them 752 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: they accepted, reeled them in a couple of them. They said, 753 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: this is stupid, this idea doesn't work. This man knows 754 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: how to deliver a tease. Yeah, and eight part expose 755 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: on sex in the end. Okay, all right, um, oh 756 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: I wanted to hit orson Wells and I was like, 757 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: too stunned, couldn't even left my finger too. I'm glad 758 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 1: you did not. And remember the fifth Annual, Fifth Dish 759 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 1: Annual Fantasy Extravaganza will be held later. And I think 760 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: we're trying to reel in the big fish, right, anybody 761 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: one of you guys Evian Silva, Yeah, I gotta get 762 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: the big fish back in the boat with his exciting, 763 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: uh career change and also his immense knowledge in the 764 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: fantasy realm. So now, Mardy kind of if if you're listening, 765 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: and I know you're a regular listener, Evan hopping the boat, 766 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: if you can, we'd love to have you, as you 767 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: gotta pull in a big It's not gonna be easy. 768 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean, now, if he declines for whatever reason, this 769 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: just looks terrible for him. I mean, it doesn't look 770 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: great for trying to promote his new site, established the run. 771 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: He's taken these media requests. Now it's it's like now 772 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: now he owns the boat. Yeah what I'm saying, Yeah, 773 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 1: that's absolutely true. Um, all right, We'll be back on 774 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: Friday with another show, So thank you to everyone for listening. 775 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 1: Until then, this is Dan Hansas signing off for Quiet Storm. 776 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: I feel like we've got to look into your brain. 777 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: Mark today the show, I'd be concerned, The Mailman, The 778 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood Behind the Glass Deal. Friday,