1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by All Copy Products, proud partner 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at All copy products 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: dot com. So the fifteen of the Ted Berry's Gonna 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Score Fuckdown. Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Reports. Slim 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: to the Ground by Puda Baker Like a torpedo. He 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield, Tens goes up and fixed 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: the game. When it catch Larry Lodgen does it again. 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Reports brought to you by Arizona 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Acy Cardinals dot com, Slash Podcasts. Here 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: Tween go. This is it. Caught by Kirk at the 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: twenty at the ten touchdown baby Field. Here's Craig Grilou, 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki and Bertrand Berry. Okay, real quick wellness check. 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: How did everyone survive? What was one a long weekend, 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: the holiday on Monday and then more importantly than that, 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: the first weekend with no football and quite some time. 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: And yes, there's always football to talk about, but I'm 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: a little worried about my co host here, Mike Direcy 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: and Bertram Berry because there was no actual football game 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: for be trained to, you know, prop up his feet 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: and again no shoes. It's a weekend, a long weekend 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: at that, but no actual game for Bertram Berry to 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: sit and watch and then dissect. Yeah, it was a 23 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: little tough, but at the same time, I did appreciate 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: the rest, and you know, I'm still a working brother, 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I never stopped moving and 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: I was able to put the shoes up, put the 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: feed up about four o'clock that afternoon. So it still 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: wounded up being a pretty good weekend. And from then 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: on I had a lot of rest, but definitely missing 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: football right now. You know. I got a little yard 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: work done on Saturday. Okay, I went to the matinee 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: game on Monday to see the Blues in the Coyotes. 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 1: So just finding other things to keep me occupied. But hey, 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: whoever made the NFL calendar, they need a rate because 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: coming up in March, free agency, the draft, hopefully we 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: see some offseason activities. Regardless the NFL calendar, sits mean 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: quite well, good segue MJ. Because in one month, one 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: month and one day to be specific, the new league year. 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: It's a Wednesday, in fact, at Saint Patrick's Day March seventeenth, 40 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: That is when teams can officially sign free agents if 41 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: there is a player on the market right now, I E. J. J. Watt, Yes, 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: you're able to sign them right now. Although it does 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: sound like that more and more teams are gonna wait 44 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: because we don't know what the salary cap is going 45 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: to be. Is it going to be one? See eighty one. 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: All of these dollars matter, Even the slightest amounts of 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: money can mean signing a player or not signing a player. 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: So here, as we begin this week's show on the 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals Red Sea Report B Train, I'm gonna need your 50 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: positions of need rank the top two, top three, whether 51 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: it's free agency or the draft, or maybe even both. 52 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: Remember free agency comes first. The draft is not until 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: the end of April. But when you look at the 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one Erazona Cardinals, what position not specific players, 55 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: but what position does this team need to address asap? 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: I really believe they need to address the cornerback position. 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: That's going to be the first and foremost need. And 58 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: then you look at wide receiver. You're gonna have to 59 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: get Kyler Murray some weapons, some guys that can actually 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: catch the ball and do it on a consistent basis. Yes, 61 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: you have de Andre Hopkins. Don't know what the status 62 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: of everybody else is going to be. Everybody else seems 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: to be kind of lumped into that. Okay, let's showing through. 64 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: But as far as established receivers, you have one and 65 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: a lot of guys. So I think cornerback one and 66 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: then I believe wide receiver next. Does not surprise me 67 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: be trained that you would go with a defensive position 68 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: right out of the gate. I'll add another one though, 69 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: because much like you be trained, I like cornerback and 70 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver, but MJ I'll also had pass rusher as well, 71 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: because yes, you've got Chandler Jones coming back, but he's 72 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: coming off an injury. Devon Knard didn't quite give you 73 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: all that you anticipated in his first year with the Cardinals. 74 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: And then two big question marks, Hassan Reddick Marcus Golden. 75 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: Can you bring them both back? Do you not bring 76 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: either one of them back? But you have to be 77 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: able to get to affect the quarterback and the Cardinals 78 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: right now? Might I mean, at least on paper, they 79 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: might have an idea, but we're not gonna out for 80 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: certain until things become official. Well, when you have twenty 81 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: eight unrestricted free agents, and then they have three restricted 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: guys what basically they and the rights to Dennis Gardack, 83 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: Trent Scherfield, and Zegal Turner, and then exclusive rice to 84 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: Kylie Fitz. I mean, you do have holes on this 85 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: football team. And I couldn't agree more with b Train. 86 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Patrick Peterson's going to be a free agent. 87 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: Robert Alford unfortunately, it just hasn't been able to stay healthy. 88 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: The Cardinals would say seven point seven point five million, 89 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: dead money would be one point five. So if they 90 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: want to bring them back at a lower rate, I'm 91 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: all four. But you just can't, you know, keep them 92 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: on the roster at that rate. So you look at it. 93 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy and Alford are under contract. You got a 94 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: couple of young players in Chase Whittaker, Jonathan Joseph, Drake Kirkpatrick, 95 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Peterson are all free agents, and you know, you 96 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: look at the free agent class and there's a couple, 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: you know players out there. You know, Ronald Darby. I 98 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: like Troy Hill what he did when he was in LA. 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: But I do think the Cardinals are going to draft 100 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: a corner, but I think they have to bring in 101 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: some veteran presence if you lose Patrick Peterson. It is 102 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: the one position in my opinion, that cornerback will be addressed, 103 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: not only in free agency, but in the draft as well. 104 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: This team, betray needs to get younger at the position 105 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: and then also have a veteran or two, much like 106 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: bringing in a Jonathan Joseph mid season. I certainly helped 107 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: that position out. But the big question mark here is 108 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: what this team does with Patrick Peters. Or maybe it's 109 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: not even the team's decision, it's Peterson's decision whether to 110 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: stay or go. Yeah, he's a guy that really has 111 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: earned the right to make a decision on his own future. 112 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of speculations as far as 113 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: does he want to stay, does he want to go? 114 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: We won't know until he officially says one way or 115 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: the other. But you cannot build a team on what 116 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: if and scenarios. You have to know what you have 117 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: and then you have to go from there. And so 118 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: I think they're not going to press him per se 119 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: to to make a decision, but they are going to 120 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: ask him as soon as he could to make a decision. 121 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 1: And I think he already knows. It's just a matter 122 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: of taking his time and making sure all his teas 123 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: are crossing his eyes about it. So whenever he makes 124 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: that decision, I think it'll be his decision, and I 125 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: think both sides will will mutually come to that agreement 126 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: and then they will go fortunely. I would agree, Craig. 127 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: I think they'll try to address the wide receiver position 128 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: in free agency. You know, again, not one of the 129 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: top guys, somebody that has some veteran experience. I don't 130 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: know if we can sit here and rely on Isabella 131 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: Keyshawn Johnson. They got to prove it first, so I 132 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: do think they'll try to address that also in the draft. Again, 133 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: they only have five picks, but they got to get 134 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: better in the trenches. And Corey Peters is a free agent. 135 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: I think you and I are in agreement, probably all 136 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: three of us, to bring them back just from a 137 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: veteran presence. But you know Jordan Phillips, they need more 138 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: production from him. Zach Allen came on last year. You 139 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: got Lucky Foe two, Richard Lawrence Blackson's a free agent, 140 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: Michael Dogby. So they got to get better in the trenches, 141 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: and that starts on the D line, and you got 142 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: to get more production out of Phillips. So I mean again, 143 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: you can't address every single thing in free agency, and 144 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: that's what you have the draft and trade. So when 145 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: you have twenty eight free agents, you got a lot 146 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: of holes. So I think they got to get better 147 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: in the trenches. Well, if the postseason taught us anything 148 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: be trained is you have to be physical at the 149 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: point of attack as far as your offensive line, and 150 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: then defensive you have to protect that line of scrimmage. 151 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: You can't play back on your heels. Cardinals do have 152 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: a number of offensive linemen and defensive lineman coming back. 153 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of do you believe that those 154 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: are guys that you can go to battle with if 155 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: you will on Sundays, or if there needs to be 156 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: an upgrade allah on the right side of the offensive 157 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: line or the defensively, do you need someone in the 158 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: middle to get that push up front. Teams are built 159 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: from the inside out, and the one thing you have 160 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: to be certain about with your team when you head 161 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: into a season is that your inside is going to 162 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: be a position of strength. When you talk about offense 163 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: and defensive line, you can't win the line of scrimmage. 164 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: You're not going to win a lot of football games. 165 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: And regardless of how many flash players you have, honey, outside, 166 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: I love those guys. They do a lot for an 167 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: entertainment and their teammates and you love them. But when 168 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: it really comes down to it, you have to be 169 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: able to win that line of scrimmage and you can't 170 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: just have guys that you're okay, because you have to 171 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: know for sure that these are guys that you can 172 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: take out there to the field and you know that 173 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: they're going to get job. Man, they're going to win 174 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: many more times than they lose. And I think defensively, 175 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: when you look at what the Cardinals do have coming 176 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: back with those young players, is Zach Allen, Lucky Fow 177 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: two or Shard Lawrence and then hopefully a healthy, full 178 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: strength Jordan Phillips. There's four names right there, m J. 179 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: But I think we've seen on this team that you 180 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: do need a rotation and if one guy's not doing it, 181 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: then you need two, three, four guys behind them in 182 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: order to really have that effect on the defensive line. Yeah, 183 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: and I'm intrigued with Zach Allen. I mean I thought 184 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: he you know, as long as he can stay healthy, 185 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: I think he can end that left defensive end and 186 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: you know a Lucky and a Shad Lawrence. I mean 187 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: they're going to be rotation guys. I anticipate that snapcount 188 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: will go up again. All these guys need an offseason, 189 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: just like Isaiah Simmons and Michael Dogby's kind of interesting. 190 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: You know, one thing I want to go back to 191 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: is the offensive line for a second here, just from 192 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: a standpoint of I think the Cardinals feel comfortable where 193 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: they are with their tackles. Okay, Marcus Gilbert, he is 194 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: under on track, hopefully he wants to play. I thought 195 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: Calvin Beacham did a good job there. I think Justin 196 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: Murray is more athletic, so I don't anticipate Sweezy coming back. 197 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: So I think they're fine at the tackles now. Justin 198 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: Pugh is going to be thirty one years old. He 199 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: has another year on his contract. I think he's coming 200 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: off a really good season. So I like the left side. 201 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: They got to get better in the interior when it 202 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: comes to Mason Cole and we'll see what happens there. 203 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: Alex Mack is out there, he's up there in age, 204 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: but he's still his tape looks good, I was told, 205 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: So he's up there in age. But I do think 206 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals will have to address the interior. Just licking 207 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: at the future. So I like what the tackles are doing. 208 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: I like pew, but all of a sudden, you got 209 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: to have some backups in the interior. I'll throw another 210 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: position group out there, and it might not be addressed 211 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: early on, whether in free agency, and it should only 212 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: be addressed in free agency. And that is the quarterback position, 213 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: specifically a backup quarterback. Because beatran Again, what did the 214 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: postseason teach us? What did we see? You need to 215 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: have some one that you can go out there and 216 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: spell the starter, whether it's an injury or something else, 217 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: and be confident and comfortable in that player, hopefully a 218 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: veteran that can give you a quarter maybe even an 219 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: entire game, to make sure your season keeps going. Yeah, 220 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: you cannot you cannot overlook that backup position because you're 221 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: only as good as your backups. And yes, everybody's gonna 222 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: have starters, and they're gonna be great players, and they 223 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: all were great players where they came from. But when 224 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: you start talking about so war of attrition and injuries 225 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: are part of the game, just like a running game 226 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: and passing game and all that other kind of stuff. 227 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: So if you don't have depth quality depth at any position, 228 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: it is going to be difficult to win. And I 229 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: think the Cardinals definitely have to address that position and 230 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: make sure if they feel just as good about the 231 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: backups as they do the starters. You know, the guy 232 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: you describe me is Brett Huntley. Unfortunately it just didn't 233 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: work out for him. But you know, it seems like 234 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: you got to pay three or four million for these backups, 235 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: and we just saw the Heinekennekey getting an extension. We 236 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be the starting quarterback, 237 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: but he got eight million. You know, Ryan Fitzpatrick's a 238 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: free agent. To me, that'd be ideal thing. Obviously, he's 239 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: a hometown guy. I don't know if he wants five 240 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: or six million a year, but what we watched, I 241 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: don't think you can throw out there Chris Traveler in 242 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: Week sixteen and seventeen. Unfortunately, I just haven't seen enough 243 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: another guy that needs an offseason in preseason games. But 244 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: you got to make sure you protect it. We know 245 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray the last two years has been injured in 246 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: the week sixteen and seventeen, So I would I think 247 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals feel like they got to get somebody if 248 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: something happens to Murray. Yes, the offense is not going 249 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: to be the same, but you have to get somebody 250 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: that has a veteran experience to help this team win 251 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: games late in the year. Hopefully we'd never see the 252 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. That would be the goal of every team. 253 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: And yes, if you lose your daughter for an extended 254 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: period of time, then all bets are off. But in 255 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: a pinch, do you have someone behind into Kyler Murray? 256 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: Right now? The only two quarterbacks of Cardinals do have 257 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: Chris Traveler and Cole McDonald, who they signed to a 258 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: futures contract six three two fifteen. It looks good, but 259 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: he has zero experience. Cardinals need to address someone to 260 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: be QB two. Hopefully all they do is mentor Kyler Murray, 261 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: push Kyler Murray to take that next step into year three. 262 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: Of course, we touched on the wide receivers. Well, more 263 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: on that's coming up as we continue here on the 264 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals reds he Report or Reminder Bird Gang update to 265 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: the Lattist version of the Cardinals mobile app. Today, the 266 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: app features and all new redesign homescreen experience. Visit easy 267 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com slash app four more. Cardinals certainly sets 268 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: at a number one wide receiver. What about two, three, four, 269 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: and five. We'll get into that next here on the 270 00:13:53,440 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio network, Hurst and ten on the Cardinal 271 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: twenty snap to Murray drops back to throw, looking deep, 272 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: airing it out middle of the field. He's got Kirk. 273 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: It's caught at the forty Kirk in the thirty but 274 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen ten five touchdown ton eighty yards strike Kyler 275 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: Murray to Christian Kirk, two touchdowns for Kirk down in 276 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: the game. Oh baby, that was huge right there. Kyler 277 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: Murray saw Christian Kirk and he just ran the go 278 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: rob What a great throw. Kyler Murray laid it out 279 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: there and Christian Kirk went got it. Kind of love 280 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: those one play eighty yard scoring drives Christian Kirk the 281 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: eighty yard touchdown catch and run on Monday Night football 282 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: at the Dallas Cowboys, Kirk finishing with a team high 283 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: six touchdowns this past season, tied with DeAndre Hopkins, who 284 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: also had six. As we walk me back here to 285 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: the car, OL's Red Sea Report Craig Riel lu Mike Drecky, 286 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: and Bertram Berry looking specifically now, gentlemen at this wide 287 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: receiver position, and we just touched on it briefly as 288 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: far as wide receivers behind DeAndre Hopkins, and you'd include 289 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, Andy Isabella Keishawn Johnson. We don't know about 290 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, who is a free agent who has a 291 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: decision to make. Will he come back, won't he come back? 292 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: We wait his decision. But in listening to new wide 293 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: receivers coach Sean Jefferson earlier today be trained he sees 294 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: a lot of talent behind a Hopkins and that's good. 295 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: As he reviews some of the early film of last season, Yes, 296 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: there is talent there, but so far, in two years 297 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: of Isabella and Johnson, three years of Kirk, it just 298 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: hasn't been consistent enough so far. Yeah, I'm sure there 299 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: is a lot of talent and there's a lot of potential, 300 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: but you know, they're the old thing. A cemetery is 301 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: full of potential and it doesn't really matter until it's realized. 302 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: And that's thing that we've got to see from these 303 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: young receivers they've got to go out and actually make 304 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: the plays on the field. Yes, you can be talented. 305 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: Everybody in the NFL is talented. Everybody has ability, but 306 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: you have to be able to go out and be 307 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: consistent in catching the ball, running the routes from no 308 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: wins to run your route, know the coverage, and how 309 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: to adjust on the fly. There's a lot of different 310 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: aspects to becoming a really good wide receiver in the NFL, 311 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: and those guys, for whatever reason, they're missing some of 312 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: those steps along the way, and they've got to be 313 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: able to fill in those gaps. And until they do, 314 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: all you're gonna say is that they have great potential 315 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: and they have talent, but that doesn't mean anything, and 316 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: that doesn't help you win games. Mber And that's where 317 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: maybe a Jefferson, who played the game and certainly has 318 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: coached for a long time, can help develop that talent 319 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: because we know MJ. That Hopkins is going to be targeted. 320 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: He was targeted one hundred and sixty times this past season, 321 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: most on the team, second most in the league, but 322 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: then there was a huge drop off. Kirk was the 323 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: next most targeted wide receiver seventy nine at times and 324 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if that disparity is something that we 325 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: want to see. But when you have a Hopkins maybe 326 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: it's just either easier for Kyle Murray to look his direction, 327 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: but I think we would like to see him a 328 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: little bit more balanced across the board. But at the 329 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: same time, those other wide receivers have to earn those targets. Yeah, 330 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: and you know, when you have Larry Fitzgerald on the 331 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: roster and he Isabella, they're going to play in the slot, 332 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: and you know obviously that you know, then maybe the 333 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: knock was Kirk was too slow or too small. But 334 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: you know, over the last three years he had a 335 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: seventy five yard touchdown, a sixty nine yeard touchdown, and 336 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: then of course in the Cowboys gave me eighty year touchdown. 337 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's better in the slot 338 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: or on the outside. And we're gonna get into you know, 339 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: when they moved Hopkins around. You know, Kirk's just got 340 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: to stay healthy as you have to play a full season. 341 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: He's played twelve games m thirteen and fourteen. He obviously 342 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: dealt with COVID this year. You know, you look at 343 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: his numbers, he's targeted seventy nine times forty eight catches, 344 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty one yards, averaging close to thirteen 345 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: yards a catch. It's just he's got to stand the field, 346 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: and you know, when Larry was out, we saw the 347 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: receivers kind of bunched up in the same you know, 348 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: the same side of the field, and that's this miscommunication. Now, 349 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: I do think having a former player who obviously played 350 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL, played in Super Bowls is going to 351 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: be able to get the best out of these guys. 352 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: Nothing against Jerry Selden and David Ry, but you know, 353 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: the talents there. They've shown flashes, but once again, inconsistency 354 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: and we've talked about that when it comes to the offense, 355 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: and that's why you're hearing wide receiver being brought up 356 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: as far as free agency. That's why you're hearing wide 357 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: receiver being and brought up once again with the draft 358 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: and maybe even at number sixteen, depending on who might 359 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: be available at that time when the Cardinals are on 360 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: the clock. You brought it up momentarily MJ about Hopkins 361 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: as far as moving him around. It's what we saw 362 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: a little bit later on in the season, just because 363 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: I think the offense got a little bit stagnants and 364 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: defenses were able to realize what was going on. It 365 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: was a point that Rob Frederickson made last week on 366 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage with Paul Calvc and Ron Hopefully 367 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: they started moving d Hop around a little instead of 368 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: just standing him over to the left side stagnant and 369 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: running three or four routes, starting to move him around, 370 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: get him into the slot, motion him a little bit, 371 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: do some crossing routes. Those are things that I think 372 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: they need to build on offensively. It was a little 373 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: thing b trained, but it certainly did have an advantage. 374 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: And that's this cat and mouse game that you have 375 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: during the course of the season. You run something until 376 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: the defense catches on and then it's up to you 377 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: as an offense to adjust. And the key is to 378 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: be one step ahead. It's chest not checkers. And that's 379 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: the thing that we saw with Kyler and what we 380 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: saw with Coach Kingsbury. They were able to, for the 381 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: most part, really keep him in positions where he could 382 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: be at an advantage and they couldn't really get a 383 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: beat on him and block him down. So being able 384 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: to get other guys to be able to have to 385 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: your account for it. And when you don't have other 386 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: guys to account for it, then no matter whereas to 387 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: try to hop it down. So it's really got to 388 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: these guys that to put in it and make sure 389 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: that they're contributing and make sure all the press not 390 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: just on one guy. You know. I think when you 391 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: look at Christian Kirk a couple of years ago, we 392 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: thought he could be number two receiver, and you know, 393 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: when you draft Andy Isabelle in the second round, you're 394 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: thinking already three and then Keyshawn Johnson. They just don't 395 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: have a second wide receiver on the roster. I mean 396 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: when I say that, I think Christian Kirk has the 397 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: best opportunity if he could stay healthy and obviously you know, 398 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: get more confidence. I think just based on being available. 399 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: But I think they need a number two receiver take 400 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: pressure off of DeAndre Hopkins. And maybe that guy is 401 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: on the roster, but we need to see it over 402 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: a period of time versus you know, claiming someone that 403 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: can be two and then you want to get three 404 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: and four. I mean, if they want to run this 405 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: offense like they do, you have to have depth at 406 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: that receiver position. And you would have hoped that it 407 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: would have been Kirk By now. It's because you know, 408 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: injuries have played into that, and then of course you 409 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: would have hoped that there would have been Andy Isabella 410 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: By now considering where he was selected in the second round. 411 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: You need those picks to hit, and I'm sorry it's there. 412 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: You can't be patient. I mean to a certain extent. 413 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you get one season and maybe two seasons if 414 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: you are a high draft pick, but betrayin, you know 415 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: this game better than most as far as how willing coaches, executives, 416 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: owners are willing to be patient. In the National Football League, 417 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: there is only patient as their options and that's just 418 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: the fact of it. If they have other opportunities to 419 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: get their team better, they're going to take those opportunities. 420 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: It is a win now situation, and of course, seeing 421 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: what we just saw on the last Super Bowl, it 422 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: could be done rather quickly, and so there's going to 423 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: be those that want that formula to try to work 424 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: for their organization. And when you see one guy can 425 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: come in and bring in a few pieces that he 426 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: thinks can help and it actually worked well, then it's 427 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: a copycat leagues and everybody's gonna want to in turn, 428 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: have that same type of situation workout for themselves. So, yeah, 429 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: you want to have a guy developed, you you want 430 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: him to take time. But it's the bottom line, business 431 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: and jobs are on the line and you can't afford 432 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: to wait forever for somebody to develop. They've got to 433 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: make sure that they have done enough to give you 434 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: that that patience and buy that time. So if they 435 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: can further develop. But if they don't show anything right 436 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: out of the gate and they just continue to struggle, 437 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: then teams are going to have to make business decisions. Yeah, 438 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: and then you got Trent Cherfield. You know, obviously he's 439 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: not a draft pick, but he's a guy that's earned 440 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: a spot on the roster from special teams. He's restricted, 441 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: you know, let's see what kind of tender they give there. 442 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: And then Joe Joe Award. I thought he you know, 443 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: he's a guy that can take the top off the decent. 444 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: If Isa Bella is not going to be the guy, 445 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: you got to find someone. We watched Scotty Miller and 446 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: I don't know why any is it Bella can't be 447 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: like Scotty Miller. Now granted he doesn't, you know, have 448 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady thrown to him, But you know, Murray can 449 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: make thee AJ Richardson. He kind of built like an 450 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Kuon Bolden's. He got a futures contract, so there's other opportunities. 451 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: But again, when you're a draft pick, you get more 452 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: opportunities or more more time. And the Cardinals didn't have 453 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: to see getting rid of Keen Butler last year. That's true. 454 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: He was here and then spent that first year on 455 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: I R and then was not around for a second year. 456 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: This Cardinals offense, as far as throwing the football middle 457 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: of the road, average seventeenth in the league as far 458 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: as passing yards per game, and that's a number that 459 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: certainly with the weapons and the skill set of a 460 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray should be much much better. We'll get into 461 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: the running game and our next segment, but as far 462 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: as this offense overall, more from Frederickson last week on 463 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage as far as making sure they 464 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: are not too predictable, and I think we saw a 465 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: little bit that last season. It was always just you know, 466 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: am I going to hand it off? Or am I 467 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: gonna run? As Kyler Murray, there was never that pass 468 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: option off of it, and to me, they need to 469 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: expand on that and become a little bit more are 470 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: unpredictable because we all know Cardinal fans are probably tired 471 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: and sick to death of the wide receiver screens and 472 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: the Jets sweeps and the run plays that bounce out 473 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: to the outside. Those are hard to execute in the 474 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: NFL with the speed of defenses and this their ability 475 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: to get off blocks. You have to be able to 476 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: mix it up, and that some comes with self scouting 477 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: and this coaching staff going back and looking at the 478 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: plays that they ran, the plays that were successful, the 479 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: plays that weren't successful, and yeah, Betrand, there's gonna be 480 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: plays that weren't successful, but sometimes those plays lead or 481 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: set you up for something later in the game or 482 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: maybe even later on in the season. Yes, and that's 483 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: all true, but you have to win the game that 484 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: are in front of you. And when you start talking 485 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: about later down the season, there's no guarantee that the 486 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: person mill is going to be the same. There's no 487 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: guarantee that that particular player is going to be available, because, 488 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: as we've talked about, it's a war of attrition and 489 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: sometimes you lose players and you don't like that, but 490 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: that's just a of the business, and so it's great 491 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: to think about down the road, but you're better off 492 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: winning right now as opposed to trying to set somebody 493 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: up long term, because you can not win a championship 494 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: in September and October, but you can definitely put yourself 495 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: in a position where you're going to be packing up 496 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: and going home in December if you don't take care 497 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: of that business in the first part of the season. Well, 498 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people are wondering what's 499 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: the identity of the Arizona Cardinals offense and as a whole, 500 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, Cliff said, tempo, aggressiveness and physicality. We know 501 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: that they have to run the football to set up 502 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: the pass, but at some point you just got to 503 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: win your one on one matchups at the physicality at 504 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: the point of the line of scrimmage. So you may 505 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: want to throw it, and obviously Cliff's willing to do both, 506 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: whether it's running the ball or throwing it. But to me, 507 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: you've got to get more consistent when it comes to 508 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: running the ball and staying with the run and then 509 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: open up with the play action. So it's easy for 510 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: us to sit here in second guests, but a lot 511 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: of the times that comes down the players, and when 512 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: we talked about the receivers, you've got to get separation. 513 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: Are those guys getting separation open things up for Kyler 514 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: Murray and connecting with those wide receivers on the run 515 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: the yards after catch, and that was something that the 516 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals did not have a lot of. You get those 517 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: receivers out in space and let their natural ability work 518 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: for you, throw them open, so to speak. The Cardinals 519 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: less than four and a half yards per catch as 520 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: far as yards after catch, and that is just something 521 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: that is not very good when you look at this 522 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver corps as a whole. Something certainly that will 523 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: be addressed, as we talked about, probably in free agency 524 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: and in the draft as well. We have had half 525 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: time here on this week's edition of the Cardinals Red 526 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: Sea Report. When we come back, be trains gonna love this. 527 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: More offense because you know that is always the key 528 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: to a successful team. More offense. Hey, if you like 529 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: what you here, we should fite you to subscribe to 530 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals podcast, Goodasy Cardinals dot Com slid podcast for 531 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: more information. Chase Edmonds in the back food with Murray 532 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: third down in one of the twenty nine four receivers 533 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: set shotgun snap, It's a run play right side, big whole. 534 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: Edmonds twenty five twenty ten five touchdown the inside zone 535 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: being run and Chase Edmonds follow the hole and to 536 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: the Hall's baby twenty nine yard touchdown run on third 537 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: down in one for Chase Edmonds. All four of Chase 538 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: Edmonds touchdowns at Medlife twenty parts are longer hard to believe, 539 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: but that was the only touchdown run of twenty twenty 540 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: for Chase Edmonds game and week five at the New 541 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: York Jets. Edmonds right now, gentlemen, appears to be your 542 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: starting running back, at least as we sit here and 543 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: discuss things on this February sixteenth edition The Cardinals Red 544 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: Sea Report. Welcome back Craig Riolu, Mike Drecky and Bertram 545 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: Berry and yes, b train more offensive discussion. We have 546 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: not forgotten about the defense, but we know what sells 547 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: and that is offense. And when you have an offense, 548 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: B trained, it always starts one at the line of scrimmage. 549 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: You need five guys up front to do their job. 550 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: Is six if you will, maybe with the tight end, 551 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: but when you come to the pass and we're kind 552 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: of going in reverse order here. The run does set 553 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: up the pass. And right now, this Cardinals running team 554 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: very very solid each of the past two seasons. There 555 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: is a question mark though, with Kenyan Drake to to 556 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: become an unrestricted free agent. Is Chase Edmonds the guy 557 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: to be running back number one? Greig, you said, it 558 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: all starts with upfront. If those guys up front aren't 559 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: doing their jobs, then it doesn't matter who you have 560 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: in the backfield. And the one thing that we've seen 561 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals, they do love to run the football, 562 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: and the quickest way to win football game is the 563 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: established that line of scrimmage. From an offensive line standpoint, 564 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: if you can dictate to the defensive line what you're 565 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: going to do and you're getting three four yards per carry, 566 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: that just tends to wear down a defensive line and 567 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: the defense as a whole, and it gives your defense 568 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: in turn rest and the ability to be fresh when 569 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: they come back on to the field. So if you 570 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: can get points after you've had one of those long 571 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: drives and really give your whole sideline a boost, then 572 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: that's something that is definitely a winning formula. So I'm 573 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: not gonna say that you don't need offense to win 574 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: you do. You just need them to give you just enough. 575 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: And if they can give you running game and they 576 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: can give you time of possession, then I really believe 577 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: that your team has a much better chance of winning 578 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: set games than not with what you've seen so far 579 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: out of Chase Edmonds, How comfortable, how confident are you 580 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: and him? As far as being that running back starting 581 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: running back in twenty twenty one, I think he can 582 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: be a really good running back. I'm not sure if 583 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: he's able to carry the load. He's not the biggest 584 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: guy in the world. He does do nice things, and 585 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: I think the role he's played the last couple of 586 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: years have been perfect for him. I would like to 587 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: see a guy that can really just move the crowd, 588 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: if you will, a guy that's a physical type runner, 589 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: a guy that's between the tackles, and defenders are going 590 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: to have to make business decisions on how they want 591 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: to go and approach him as far as trying to 592 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: bring him down. So there's nothing against Chase Edmonds as 593 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: a player because I think he maximizes what he's able 594 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: to do really well. But I think he works best 595 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: in a two back system where he's kind of the 596 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: yang to another guy's yang, if you will, and he 597 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: compliments that guy, and he's more of a of a 598 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: counter than the main attraction. And m JA. That's what's 599 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: something that you talked a lot about, the duel back, 600 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: the guys that do something similar, but they just look 601 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: and act differently. Drake specifically, bigger, taller. He would be 602 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: the guy to go between the tackles, although sometimes he 603 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: would bounce to the outside a little bit too much 604 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: to people's liking. But you do need I think that 605 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: Gone is that running back that's going to get thirty 606 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: thirty five carries every single week. Yeah. I mean if 607 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: you look at the rushing touchdowns last year, the Cardinals 608 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: had twenty two and you pointed out that Edmonds only 609 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: had one, which surprising to hear, Drake had ten and 610 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray eleven. Yeah, I think what they're looking for 611 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: is a bigger back, somebody like five eleven, two hundred 612 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: and twenty two hundred and twenty five pounds, a guy 613 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: that can get those tough through two or three yards 614 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: of course, third and inches, fourth and one, where you 615 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: don't have to rely on Kyler Murray going under center, 616 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, maybe this is a good 617 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: opportunity for Eno Benjamin. If Chase Edmonds is going to 618 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: be your starters, he get a chance to possibly return kicks. 619 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: I know they're intrigued with Jonathan Award, he was on 620 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: the active roster and Moron teams. He kind of reminds 621 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: me of a little bit of Andre Ellington and then 622 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: DJ Foster. So and I do think and I think 623 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: I said as five or six times, and the Cardinals 624 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: only have five draft picks, but I do think they're 625 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: going to draft a running back, not in the first round, 626 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: but I think they want to get a back that 627 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: can compliment what Chase Edmond does, and that would be 628 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: a bigger back to get the grunt yards. And the 629 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: one thing that Edmonds does very very well is catch 630 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield or line up as 631 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: a wide receiver in this slot. Earlier this season, Kingsbury 632 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: on what he likes about Chase Edmonds. We all feel 633 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: like he's starting running back in this league, and he 634 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: does too. And when he had his opportunities, he shined 635 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: and he continues to shine. I mean, he can catch it, 636 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: he can run it. He can block play special teams 637 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: and he's really bright football wise. Of course, it always 638 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: goes back to what we began this segment talking about 639 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: Beatryan and those offensive linemen, those five guys up front, 640 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: and I think we all like what DJ Humphreys has done, 641 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: Justin Pugh has done. The question is at center, at 642 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: right guard, at right tackle, Because there are guys that 643 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: are set to become unrestricted free agents aj R Sweezy 644 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: at Calvin Beach, Max Garcia who we saw occasionally come 645 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: in fill in at guard at time, and then the 646 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: difference between a Mason Cole, a Lamant Gilliard at center 647 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: or do you look to upgrade that in free agency. 648 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: The thing about offensive lineman, when you have really good 649 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, you don't hear anything about them, and there's 650 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: no knock on them as individuals because those guys take 651 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: a lot of pride in their play and they deserve 652 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: all the money and all the credit that they can get. 653 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: But when you start talking about how a team works 654 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: and what makes the successful team, when you have guys 655 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: that you have no idea who they are, but they 656 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: just plug along, they just do their job. They just 657 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: road great people and they keep people off their quarterback. 658 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: Those are the best type of offensive lineman to have. 659 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: And I don't need to hear about a high price 660 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: guy or a guy that has a reputation to them. 661 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: I just need guys to go in and be able 662 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: to handle that business. And I think they prefer it 663 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: that way. They prefer to be the no name group, 664 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: the five guys that just go about their business each 665 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: and every weekend. And I don't care what their names are, 666 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't care where they came from. As long as 667 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: they're able to do that job, then I think you're 668 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: That is the foundation of any football team. And as 669 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: a guy that is a defensive lineman, I understand that 670 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: very well. And so you really have to make sure 671 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: that you have five guys, really six to seven, because 672 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: you need somebody to come in and spell too, just 673 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: in case, but you need to have at least five 674 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: guys that you can really depend on each and every 675 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: week that you know, once they put that helmet on 676 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: and they go out on that field, they're gonna make 677 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: everybody else on that field shine because they're not going 678 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: to be looking for that name and notoriety, but they're 679 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: going to be the ones that are most responsible for 680 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: you know, the guy that I'm intrigued with and once 681 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: again needs an offseason, preseason games and all that other 682 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: stuff is Josh Jones. I mean, he did get a 683 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: chance to play as a sixth offensive lineman. You know, 684 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a guy now. He played 685 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: at Houston a left tackle. Maybe he could be your 686 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: swing tackle this year if some that happened to hump 687 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: or are possibly on the right side again. Calvin Beaches 688 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: to me, you know played well. I'm curious to see 689 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: when Marcus Skilber is going to do. But Josh Jones, 690 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if he can play multiple positions. I 691 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: know that Cardinals want to get more athletic at that 692 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: right guard and that's why probably Justin Murray's going to 693 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: be the guy going in. But at the end of 694 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: the day, you know, Coogler's gonna have to play the 695 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: best five guys, and you know late in the year 696 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: last year, they are kind of substitute and I thought 697 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: some guys wore down. I don't know if that's the 698 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: best position where you start rotating guys. Cardinals and twenty 699 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: twenty a top five running team or excuse me, a 700 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 1: top ten running team as far as yards per game 701 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: and yards per play as far as rushing yards per play, 702 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: just under four points seven every time they touched the football. 703 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: I was tied for eighth best in the league. Rod 704 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: Frederickson last week on The Big Red Rage that running 705 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: the football is where everything begins and sometimes ends. It's 706 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: running the football and sticking with it even if it's 707 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: not successful, even if it's only for two yards or 708 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: three yards. To me, that's successful because that sets up 709 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: so much else off the play action, and then the 710 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: middle of the field is wide open. Okay, with the 711 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: two ice safeties, you got a guy like Dan Arnold, 712 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: give me a break him against the middle linebacker. That 713 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: that should be a win every time. And that's what 714 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: we talk about as far as running game MJ is win. 715 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes that first two or three carriers don't amount too much, 716 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: and maybe it's only a two or three yard game, 717 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 1: or you get pushed back a yard, but you have 718 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: to be patient enough to stick with it. And with 719 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: run game coordinator now an addition to offensive line coach 720 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: Sean Coogler, might we see more of an emphasis as 721 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: far as running the football, even more than what we've 722 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: see in the past. Two seasons, I believe. So I 723 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: mean again, if teams are going to put seven or 724 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: guys in the box and you know there they want 725 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: to run the football to open up the pass, the 726 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: thing that would help a lot. One hundred and thirteen penalties. 727 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: Forty five were pre snap penalties according to you Greenland, 728 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: which is in the league. Okay, Philadelphia had fifty six. 729 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: In other ways, as you point out, nearly forty percent 730 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: of the penalties have in pre snap, So avoid those 731 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: pre snap penalties. Cut that in half and avoid those 732 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, third and lungs, And that's where the running 733 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: game will come in, where if you're in third and two, 734 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: third and three, you can do so many different things. 735 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: And when we talk about the running game, the wild 736 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: card is Kyler Murray, but you don't want to depend 737 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, use him to your advantage, but don't 738 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: rely on him as far as carrying the football. And yeah, 739 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: he carried the ball a lot, and it's a great 740 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: option to have. You would just like to see someone else, 741 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: whether that's the Chase Edmonds or someone else emerged to 742 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: become that other running back, much like we talked about 743 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: with wide receiver. It's great to have it DeAndre Hopkins, 744 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: but he can't do it all by himself. We also 745 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: know that it can't just be about offense. The defense 746 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: plays its own parts and maybe the largest parts according 747 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: to bertrad Ferry, and based off what we saw in 748 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty five, come back, we will talk about 749 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: the Cardinals defense, specifically that front seven, who's coming back, 750 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: who needs to come back, and what we see out 751 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: of this team moving forward under defensive coordinator Vans Joseph. 752 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: That's all streight ahead. It is the Cardinals Red Sea 753 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: report Here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Each team 754 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: of the time out a minute four to go in 755 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: a tie game here and over time thirty four piece, 756 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: gotta get a stop here, third and fourteen playclock at 757 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: one snapped to Wilson, quick for over the middle, picked off. 758 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: It's intercepting at the forty yard line. Isaiah Simmons has 759 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: it running far side of the forty five pot of 760 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: pounds half the fifty yard line, fifty seven seconds line. 761 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals have the ball man in time up. The rookie 762 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: made of play. Isaiah Simmons is right there with the 763 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: Sweethends want to catch by Isaiah Simmons huge play by 764 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals rookie linebacker Isaiah Simmons, helping the Cardinals beat 765 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: the Seahawks in overtime thirty seven thirty four, the first 766 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: career I n T picking up Russell Wilson. Later on 767 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: in season, Simmons would have his first career sack, also 768 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: against Russell Wilson. Simmons finishing with two sacks on the 769 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: season in that play certainly made things a lot easier 770 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: and maybe gave Simmons the confidence that yes, he could 771 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: play and play very well at the next level, that 772 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: being the National Football League. As we continue here on 773 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals Red Sea Report, Craig Rielu, Mike Dreckie and 774 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 1: bertram Berry looking at the front seven and specifically here 775 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: for a minute talking about Isaiah Simmons year two. What 776 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: can we expect. Here's Rob Frederickson last week on the 777 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage. From your first year to your second year, 778 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: that's where you see the biggest growth, and I think 779 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: you're going to see it from Isaiah Simmons. In my opinion, 780 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: he's too good of a player to ever be on 781 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: the sideline. Too good of a talent, is too good 782 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: of an athlete, and he's fast and this league the 783 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: way it is right now, you have to be fast. 784 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: Speed kills. Isaiah Simmons has it. He has to be 785 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: on the field all the time. A lot of problems 786 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: be trained. We've heard advanced Joseph the defensive coordinator call 787 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: him any eracer talking about because of that speed, he 788 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: can make up for a lot of people's even his 789 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: own mistakes. And I think we all anticipate next year 790 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: or this coming season to be a huge one for 791 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. The one thing you see what rookies is 792 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: from year one to year two is that the game 793 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: slows down, and that refers to the thinking. They don't 794 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: think as much. They're just more reacting and they understand 795 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: that the pace of the game, and they just seem 796 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: to come into their own And the biggest jump for me, 797 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: I know, going from year one to year two was 798 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: just how fast everybody was. When you were usually the 799 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: fastest guy in the field, and then you got offensive 800 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: lineman and you've got tight ends and all these other 801 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: positions that are it's as fast as you. It takes 802 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: a moment to really process that, and once you do that, 803 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: then you're able to go out there and you're able 804 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: to adapt him adjust and didn't find other ways to 805 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: make contributions to the team. Is not necessarily about being 806 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 1: the fastest or being the strongest, but then who can 807 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: think the fastest and who can anticipate the best and 808 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: go and make those particular plays when your numbers call. 809 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: So I really expect Isa him and to come into 810 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: his own And I think for him, once the game 811 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: slows down and he's not out there thinking as much 812 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: as he did in year one, I think he's going 813 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: to realize all that that the Cardinals used for the 814 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: eighth overall pick to bring him here to the battlem Well, 815 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: I mean, let's go back to his rookie season. First 816 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: of all, you know, he played what seven eight nine 817 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: is different positions in college and they wanted to, you know, 818 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: slow play him at week side linebacker, and then injuries 819 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: started to occur, you know, and they signed Campbell to 820 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: a one year deal where seven point five millions, so 821 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: it was going to be difficult. Now I don't disagree 822 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 1: where he should be on the field, but he did 823 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: play three hundred and seventy six snaps, which is thirty 824 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: three percent. Campbell played seventy nine percent of the snaps, so, 825 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: but I do think when offseason workouts happen, or we 826 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: get the training camp and preseason games, hopefully he's going 827 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: to be a three down linebacker and he's not going 828 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: to come off the field and his versatility is going 829 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: to allow him to cover guys maybe possibly get a 830 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: chance to get to the quarterback. So I'm really excited 831 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: about him. And he actually tweeted out on Sunday, is 832 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: a football season yet, And I'm encouraged by that because 833 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: he wants to get back in the story that Hassan 834 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: and Roddick told us last year when he came to 835 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 1: the sidelines, he told him, Hassan, I can do this. 836 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: So now that's a confidence thing. And now he knows 837 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: and that he comes in here and he could be 838 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: a big part of that defense, and opposing defensive quarters 839 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: are gonna have to id him based on a skill set. 840 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: You line them up next to Jordan Hicks, who's returning, 841 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: and you mentioned I Andrey Campbell a one year contract. 842 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: They don't anticipate him coming back because you draft Simmons, 843 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: but he can do so much be training with Simmons. Yes, 844 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: you can drop him back into coverage, but as we've 845 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: seen you can also rush the quarterback, and I know 846 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: that is something you'd like to see because it's what 847 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: you did so well. Yes, But the thing about Isaiah, though, 848 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: is you don't want him thinking too much, meaning having 849 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: too many responsibility. If you can really strip away all 850 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: the different things and just have him hone in on one, 851 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: maybe two things, then I think you will really get 852 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: the best of Isaiah Simmons. Yes, he's a tremendous athlete. 853 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: Yes he can do a lot of things well, but 854 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: you don't want him to be the jack of all 855 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: trades and the master of none. You want him to 856 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: just lock in on something that he can do best 857 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: of all those things and bring that to the table 858 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 1: each and every time he lines up on his cardinal sleeps. 859 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: And maybe you don't need to have him rush the 860 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: quarterback a lot if you do have a Hassan Reddick 861 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 1: or Marcus Golden or both come back and a healthy 862 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones on one side, and then Simmons being able 863 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 1: to man the middle of the field, whether that's taking 864 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: care of a titan coming across the middle or if 865 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: he sees a running back try to sneak out of 866 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: the backfield MJ and then all of a sudden, that's 867 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: what Simmons is there for, to utilize that speed and 868 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: in the course of physicality to handle a tight end. Yeah, 869 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: and let's be honest, Campbell did a really nice job 870 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: covering those tight ends. It wasn't an issue like it 871 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: was two years ago. And so there's gonna be opportunities 872 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: for him there. Maybe he's more of a front seven guy, 873 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: but I do like the fact that he may have 874 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: to cover those slots sometimes depending on the defense. But 875 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: one thing that stood out to me, and I didn't 876 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: see it in training camp, how physical he is on 877 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: game day. Absolutely, he was not afraid, as Ron Whippley 878 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: likes to say, stick your nose and the fan. Not 879 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: afraid of contact. And that's something that you're never quite 880 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 1: certain when you're talking about a first year player. Gentlemen, 881 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Good stuff, A fun, fast paced hour here 882 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: this week. We'll do it in one week's time once again. 883 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: Special thanks to those behind the scene. Senior broadcast manager 884 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: producer Jim Almandro, Technical director Cuddie Fincher for Mike Jarecki, 885 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: Bertram Berry, I'm Craig Riel lou We'll talk to you 886 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: next week year round, and I expected to be a 887 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: very busy offseason ahead. 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