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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing

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Speaker 1: in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration and fun.

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Speaker 1: My guest today is a newer friend of mine, but

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Speaker 1: it feels like I've known her honestly for my whole life.

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Speaker 1: Briannie Raymond is a fine jewelry attilie, and her expertise

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Speaker 1: in creating some of the most exquisite jewelry has made

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Speaker 1: her highly sought after in Hollywood and beyond. From boarding

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Speaker 1: school to a career in finance, which honestly is quite impressive,

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Speaker 1: Brianie found her passion in the luxury jewelry space and

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Speaker 1: has really never looked back since. Briani's creativity and savvy

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Speaker 1: mind for business is so inspiring, and I'm so much

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Speaker 1: in common with her as a working mom in a

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Speaker 1: high demand industry. She is truly a gem in every way.

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Speaker 1: So let's get right into it. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: such a fun one. I've wanted to have you on

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Speaker 1: because you're a little bit of this, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: secret weapon. I think in the world of jewelry, and

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Speaker 1: I think I think there is a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: you have this devoted customer you have. I would say

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Speaker 1: clientele makes more sense here, but I would say you

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Speaker 1: have a very loyal, devoted clientele, some that you know

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Speaker 1: nobody knows, some that many would know. But in the

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Speaker 1: world of luxury jewelry, it is pretty top secret, right,

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Speaker 1: And I think you've probably built your career in a

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Speaker 1: very top secret manner. And so I wanted to bring

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Speaker 1: you on today to sort of talk about this very

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Speaker 1: unknown world to most people, and how you decided to

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Speaker 1: go out on your own and create Briany Raymond, and

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Speaker 1: which is such a chic name, by the way, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I think I fell in love with you. We you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into it more later, but I do want

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Speaker 1: to say how we met was funny enough, not through jewelry,

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Speaker 1: but that you came up to me at the Beverly

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Speaker 1: Hills Hotel during award season and I had my boys

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Speaker 1: and you were like, oh, I have two boys, and

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And of course the first thing I

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Speaker 1: noticed is you're talking to me, is your pound of

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Speaker 1: jewelry you had on And I'm like, what on earth?

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Speaker 1: And you were like, yeah, I have a suite here.

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Speaker 1: I'm here like dressing people for oscars or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, why don't we know each Like I

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Speaker 1: was a little confused, like how come we didn't know

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Speaker 1: each other? And then I think later that year, you

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Speaker 1: were like I'm here, and you know, I just want

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Speaker 1: to show you something I created for you, and like whatever,

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Speaker 1: and then it was love at first sight. And from

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Speaker 1: that point on, I was like, we're girlfriends. I get you,

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Speaker 1: I see you in many ways, and I think since

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Speaker 1: that time, I feel like I've known you a long time,

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Speaker 1: but I continue to be a fan. And so I

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Speaker 1: want to talk today about your journey to the top

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Speaker 1: because it's an interesting one, for sure, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's important to share. So okay, Briany, Okay. So you

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Speaker 1: grew up where.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in Connecticut, and I actually went to

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Speaker 2: boarding school quite young. My family, ever, always says, oh,

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Speaker 2: why did you get sent to boarding school?

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Speaker 3: I like, no, no, it was a good thing. I

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Speaker 2: I come from, you know, a long line of boarding

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Speaker 2: of independence and autonomy and headed up, you know, sort

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Speaker 2: of being off on your own from an early age.

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Speaker 1: How old? How old I was fourteen?

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Speaker 2: So whenever people talk about, you know, college being their

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Speaker 2: I said, oh, well, you know, college for me was

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Speaker 2: so we spent summers in England, and all my cousins

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Speaker 2: spread across England and different parts of Europe. So at

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Speaker 2: the time as a kid, you could imagine I was like,

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Speaker 2: I just want to go to Disney World.

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Speaker 3: But you know, so I'd say it was a little

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Speaker 2: Moved around a lot, lived lots of different places, and

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Speaker 2: I never actually lived at home again. After my freshman

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Speaker 2: And I'm forty three, so it's been a long time,

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Speaker 2: serious and so mad living all over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, actually true. That So from fourteen, which is about

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Speaker 1: you were basically figuring out your life from that point.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I think for you, for Europeans, boarding school

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Speaker 1: they're like, why do you bother having children? That's like

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Speaker 1: their response, like if you're shipping them off?

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Speaker 2: Right? And I know for us it was always, you know,

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Speaker 3: To Hotchkiss Go Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: I was lucky to be lucky to be at Hotchkiss

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Speaker 2: we sort of like created our own little families together.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're suddenly thrust into this world of

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Speaker 2: sink or swim and you either show up for class

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Speaker 2: like my parents, definitely that was an option for me,

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Speaker 2: right so quickly you really learn I remember what actually

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Speaker 2: when the best things my mother ever said to me,

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Speaker 2: throughout my life. She always said, ninety percent of life

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Speaker 2: is just showing up.

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Speaker 3: To show up, do the thing.

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Speaker 2: Say you're going to do it, you show up beyond time,

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Speaker 2: follow your own commitments. Just show up and boarding like boarding, school, college, life,

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Speaker 2: but to yourself. Yes, you really have to take that control,

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, where did I grow up?

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Speaker 2: Well, lots of places right all over the place, right,

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Speaker 1: So so then what happens? You went to college?

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Speaker 3: Are now? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Well it's funny I did, but I had two very

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Speaker 2: different college experiences. I went first to Rollins and Rollins

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Speaker 3: The school, real sort of funny name.

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Speaker 2: And I actually I went to Rollins because it felt familiar,

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Speaker 2: small middle art school in winter Park, Florida. A lot

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Speaker 2: seemed like a really lovely school, small class size. And

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Speaker 2: then I got there and again, imagine this whole sort

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Speaker 2: you had to show up. I was flabbergasted by how

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Speaker 1: And I got through the thing welcome to college, Yes, this.

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Speaker 2: Is what we're here for, right, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: It was wonderful.

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Speaker 2: In full transparency, I will say I was probably had

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Speaker 2: decided I should move to a place it was also

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Speaker 2: better served to my love of fine art and art

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Speaker 2: to Paris. So I ended up transferring to school in Paris,

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Speaker 3: Say, oh Paris, oh the SBA. Like no AUP. My

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Speaker 2: I was not definitely not provision enough in French to

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously a full, rich, wonderful education, but with

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Speaker 2: But I was not not afforded that luxury, and so

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Speaker 3: I got to do classes at you know, Muse d'lsei

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Speaker 1: It's actually the dream.

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Speaker 2: The dream, like the actual dream of like all you

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Speaker 2: feel most stimulated by is design and art and culture.

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Speaker 2: To be able to go to school there was amazing.

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Speaker 2: So I ended up graduating from AP in four years.

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Speaker 2: Well wow, four years all the school combined, it.

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Speaker 1: Was wow wow. Okay, so then what have how do

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Speaker 1: you get into Like I remember you telling me you

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Speaker 1: had a totally different career prior to Jules, Right.

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Speaker 3: I did, I did?

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Speaker 2: And again this is I mean, as somebody who didn't

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Speaker 2: they clearly got an enormous influence on it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I want to talk about that for

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Speaker 1: a second. I think that's really interesting because you know,

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Speaker 1: I think as a Jahansan parent that I am and

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Speaker 1: that I know you are, Like, yeah, I know for

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Speaker 1: both of us, like the concept of shipping your young

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Speaker 1: children away is bizarre, but yet I know so many

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Speaker 1: people that you and I please no judgment, because I

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Speaker 1: actually I think in many ways it removes you. It

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Speaker 1: removes kids from the insanity of growing up in like

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Speaker 1: interesting because being away from the parents but yet becoming

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Speaker 1: these very driven, regimented, motivated, self starting kids because when

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Speaker 1: when when you're home. When you're home, you can take

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Speaker 2: numerology and everything. But it's it is interesting, the sort

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Speaker 2: of why way the universe can throws some some funny

440
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Speaker 2: things at you.

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Speaker 3: But yes, I was very lucky to get to work

442
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Speaker 3: at Bankleefland our Pells.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's important to talk about that because

444
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Speaker 1: then you end up in luxury jewelry. I was on

445
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Speaker 1: the other side of that luxury jewelry, like I had

446
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Speaker 1: private clients, I had my club clients. I was pulling

447
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Speaker 1: from archives and whatever. It's a world that I have

448
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Speaker 1: been long in love and obsessed with. Probably could work

449
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Speaker 1: in that if I quit whatever I was doing now,

450
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Speaker 1: just because.

451
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Speaker 3: It's anything you are, Rachel.

452
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Speaker 1: You don't want to know what I couldn't do finance.

453
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Speaker 3: Yours.

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Speaker 1: I mean nope, nope, like like a like a black

455
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Speaker 1: automatic blackout shade goes down in my brain the minute

456
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Speaker 1: I'd start looking at numbers, It's like what. But I

457
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Speaker 1: would venture to say that all of that experience absolutely

458
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Speaker 1: helped you every minute of every day of how you

459
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Speaker 1: built your current business. I tell anyone who will listen

460
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Speaker 1: from any mountaintop, I can stand on that learning fashion

461
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: or like entering fashion without any knowledge of business and

462
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Speaker 1: how it works and some finance and how money works.

463
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Speaker 1: I would say in this life now is the most

464
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Speaker 1: important gift you could ever give to yourself entering any

465
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Speaker 1: creative business because it arms you with a skill set

466
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Speaker 1: where you don't need to rely on another brain and

467
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Speaker 1: body to carry that part for you and trust someone

468
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Speaker 1: else to carry that. And so I think you, without

469
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Speaker 1: knowing it, armed yourself with the skill set to then

470
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Speaker 1: do what you love and build what you love. And

471
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Speaker 1: so after Van Cleeve, so you amasked all these incredible

472
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Speaker 1: clients that just were obsessed with you, right like just

473
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Speaker 1: trusted you. I mean, you're not going to say that,

474
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Speaker 1: but that's what happened.

475
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Speaker 2: I'm very lucky that the experience that I had there

476
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Speaker 2: was what it was. I also think to your point

477
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Speaker 2: of the more traditional path now that I think so

478
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Speaker 2: many people need to take from well I say need

479
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Speaker 2: I guess feel that they need to or you know,

480
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Speaker 2: environmentally sort of felt like it needs to be the

481
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Speaker 2: way of having a formal training in something, then going

482
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Speaker 2: into that field, then perhaps having a specialty.

483
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Speaker 3: Then.

484
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Speaker 2: The coolest thing about going from Van Cleef, sorry, going

485
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Speaker 2: from finance to Van Cleef, there's so many things about

486
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Speaker 2: it that are so cool. But for me, if you

487
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Speaker 2: imagine almost having a blank slate, like, of course I

488
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Speaker 2: have a colloquial understanding of jewelry.

489
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Speaker 3: My mother loves jewelry. I've always loved jelry. I love

490
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Speaker 3: beautiful things like fine, but.

491
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Speaker 2: Like a formal training and jewelry I did not have

492
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Speaker 2: when I was offered this unbelievable opportunity to be at

493
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Speaker 2: Van Cleef. So imagine learning everything there is to know

494
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Speaker 2: about a really specific niche world from arguably, I would say,

495
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Speaker 2: one of, if not the top house in the world.

496
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Speaker 2: You know, it's like learning clothing working at you know,

497
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Speaker 2: a York COATORI.

498
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Speaker 3: Or in Paris with like the part it was world like.

499
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Speaker 2: We to learn about diamonds, I was being taught by

500
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Speaker 2: you know, people who'd been at Van Cleef buying the

501
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: most important stones for the most important house for thirty years.

502
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Speaker 2: When it came to watchmaking, we were like in Geneva,

503
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Speaker 2: like watching watches be made. When it came to the

504
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Speaker 2: you know, mystery setting, we were literally standing which is

505
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Speaker 2: you know, the invisible at Rubies.

506
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Speaker 3: Standing in the.

507
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Speaker 2: Workshop in Paris in place vendor watching. You know, one

508
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Speaker 2: of two people in the world do how to do it.

509
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Speaker 2: They're like, here's what this is. And it was to

510
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Speaker 2: learn well and also, you know, missagu like the way

511
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Speaker 2: things are made way, you know, the Romance House, the

512
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Speaker 2: heritage of a brit all of this. But because I

513
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Speaker 2: had a sort of blank slate, so to speak, I

514
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Speaker 2: hadn't sort of been in a wholesale diamond role.

515
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Speaker 3: In a different brand.

516
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Speaker 2: And all of my training was with this incredibly rarefied

517
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Speaker 2: house where I was able to have access to such

518
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: extraordinary mentors and teachers. And it was a spectacular way

519
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Speaker 2: to learn about something, obviously about which I'm wildly excited

520
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Speaker 2: and passionate.

521
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Speaker 3: Even talking about it, I'm starting to be.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I get it, I get it. I've seen

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Speaker 1: it be done, I've seen stones beset. And it was

524
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Speaker 1: like watching I mean, it was like watching science Like

525
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Speaker 1: it was literally just the most amazing thing ever. And

526
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Speaker 1: so how long were you there? How long were you

527
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Speaker 1: at Vancleef?

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Speaker 2: I was there for almost ten years And yeah, and

529
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Speaker 2: I was actually in I was in the fifth Avenue

530
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Speaker 2: boutique in hyjewelry sales, and it was I used to explain,

531
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Speaker 2: it was like a cocktail party all.

532
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Speaker 3: Day, but not really.

533
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Speaker 2: It was sort of like getting to all day talk

534
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Speaker 2: to people, get to know people while you're talking and

535
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: showing them like the most extraordinarily beautiful jewelry, but also

536
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: it's the people. It's so cheesy, but you know me,

537
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: I love people. I love getting to know but I

538
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: love we mean, you know, hearing their stories and the

539
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: extra energy and what brought them in and what you know,

540
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: what sad thing, what happy thing?

541
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Speaker 3: What the intimacy and the sort of personal nature.

542
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Speaker 2: The psychology of yes, I mean, my god, it gets

543
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: we go deep. It's and it's it's a privilege, you know,

544
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: how lucky to get to have people open up about

545
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Speaker 2: some so many things that are so personal. And also

546
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Speaker 2: when I think about jewelry from that perspective, I mean,

547
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: it's it's sitting on your skin, you know, it's like

548
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: on your body. It's like those talismans are. It's so intimate.

549
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: So that was Fanklee.

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Speaker 3: It was incredible. That was an incredible time in my life.

551
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Speaker 1: And so what gives you the uh like actual courage

552
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Speaker 1: to be like in I'm going to go and do

553
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Speaker 1: my own like that's because people ask me that a lot,

554
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: like how did you go freelance at twenty five, and

555
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I just closed my eyes

556
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: and jumped. I don't know what to say, Like, so,

557
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Speaker 1: was it the same kind of feeling a little bit?

558
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Speaker 2: It's funny that you say it that it's funny that

559
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Speaker 2: that's what you your response. It's so true because I

560
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: often get asked it in a slightly different way, which is,

561
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Speaker 2: you know, my clients are friends or Whomember will say,

562
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Speaker 2: wasn't it so.

563
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Speaker 3: Scary to lead leaf? And I'll say, what what do

564
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Speaker 3: you mean?

565
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Speaker 2: Right, I'll say, well, how did you have the You know,

566
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Speaker 2: it must have been terrifying, because you know, I'm very

567
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: lucky I did well there. I had to wonder if

568
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: it was a very comfortable, happy environment with obviously hugely supported,

569
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Speaker 2: well known brand, et cetera, et cetera. And I was like, no, truly,

570
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Speaker 2: and I don't mean this in a self congratulatory like,

571
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Speaker 2: it actually wasn't scary because I felt so clear about

572
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: what was next, and I felt so sure that it

573
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: was the right thing for me that it felt exciting

574
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: and also just very sort of let's go, let's get

575
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Speaker 2: on with it. Another one of my dad's for this,

576
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: but like, let's do this. Once I decide something, I'm

577
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: very very decisive for better or for work. But I'm

578
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: like a highly decisive person. I do not dither on decisions. Like,

579
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Speaker 2: once I make a decision, I'm like, let's go.

580
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Speaker 1: Also a gift. Also a gift, by the way, also

581
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Speaker 1: a gift. What if you make the wrong decision? How

582
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Speaker 1: do you deal with that?

583
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Speaker 3: I figure it out?

584
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: I always there's always a way, And in fact, by

585
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Speaker 2: the way, there certainly when things go a little bit sideways,

586
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: which of course they do, or all the time, my

587
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: first question is have we fix them right?

588
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: There's always a way. There's always a way.

589
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: I also always tell my team there's never until we

590
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: have all of the information. It's not necessarily the wrong decision.

591
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Speaker 2: So sometimes I'm like, initially something can present as perhaps

592
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Speaker 2: not the.

593
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Speaker 1: Best right right.

594
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: To actually gather all the facts, gather all the information,

595
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Speaker 2: and then let's figure it out.

596
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: Okay, there's always there's always.

597
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Speaker 1: So do you ever deal with regret or like getting

598
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Speaker 1: mad at yourself? Because I deal with that.

599
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I think I probably am

600
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: more critical of myself, I guess than I will be.

601
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Speaker 2: But also that's what drives me. Yeah, like I feel like,

602
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Speaker 2: so do I feel regret? Not necessarily, I guess, you know,

603
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Speaker 2: And actually the only thing I ever really feel regret

604
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Speaker 2: about is not being able to be in two places

605
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Speaker 2: at the same.

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Speaker 4: Time, saying that's something yeah, well, especially when you're in

607
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Speaker 4: a service business where you're providing clients and they want

608
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Speaker 4: you present, and it's really hard, as we witnessed last week,

609
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Speaker 4: as we saw Oops.

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Speaker 2: Literally, yes, I take what I do obviously being in

611
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Speaker 2: client service, I take, you know, my client's happiness and

612
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: satisfaction and their experience with me and with my brand,

613
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: like I hold it so here, I care so very much.

614
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: I also obviously am a mother of two boys, I

615
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: am a wife, I am a daughter, I am a friend,

616
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: I am an aunt, I am you know.

617
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Speaker 3: It's so that's to me.

618
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Speaker 2: I think the biggest regret ever is that if I

619
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Speaker 2: was one place, I couldn't have been in the other place,

620
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: Like I always want.

621
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Speaker 3: To be every all the time, and that's tough to manage.

622
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Speaker 1: And why did you so, what ultimately was the driver

623
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Speaker 1: for you to be Like Nope, jumping out of my

624
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: own like what actually were you? Just like I feel

625
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: I've done all I can here and it's time or

626
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: what was the empetus.

627
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Speaker 2: There were two, i'd say two really clear catalysts for

628
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 2: this change, one being I had become a mother in

629
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Speaker 2: the middle of all of this. So my eldest who

630
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: is now eleven, his name is Reese, so Reese too,

631
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Speaker 2: and at the time of the sort of decision, and

632
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: you could imagine obviously being in a client service business

633
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: that is non traditional in terms of hours.

634
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Speaker 3: Obviously, if it's christ even missus Smith wants to see me, well,

635
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: Christmas plans be dammed, and of course I would be there.

636
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: Of course, you show up that hole if you're going

637
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: to do something, to do it all the way.

638
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: So that was really I found. It started to just.

639
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: Be really really challenging to not have control over my

640
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: schedule in a way that I could also show up

641
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: the very best way I.

642
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: Could for my clients.

643
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: So even about of course I could have had flexible schedule,

644
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: of course, but then I would have been letting people

645
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: down meeted me not have a flexible So that was

646
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: one thing, and then really the biggest piece of all

647
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: of it was feeling like there was more that I

648
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: could do to meet the needs of my clients as

649
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: pertained to the various aspects of the jewelry world that

650
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: currently aren't present when one is obviously representing one.

651
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Of course, of course you wanted to diversify for your clients. Yeah,

652
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: bring them everything, literally, like the best of everything, and

653
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: whether that's estate, vintage Cartier or Tiffany or whatever or

654
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: custom Briany or blah blah blah. Right, Okay, I got it.

655
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: That makes that makes a lot of sense.

656
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I wanted to be able to you know,

657
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: both sort of flex my or scratch my design itch

658
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Speaker 2: which I'd always been very creative person, always had, you know,

659
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: sort of my own things, you know that I was

660
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: working on from a design perspective, but it was also

661
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: as someone who always say, I'm like a little greedy

662
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: with my love of jewelry in the sense of.

663
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: I love all of it.

664
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: I love jar I love Cartier, I love unsigned Retro,

665
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: I love antique Victorian, I love brand new chunky gold

666
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: that I designed and made. I also, you know, want

667
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: you came to me and said, I'd like, you know,

668
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: a birthstone medallion for my baby boys.

669
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Speaker 1: And every single day, every single day, I sleep in it.

670
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: Aurora Zodiac medallion looks so good on you.

671
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: I love it so much. I love it so much,

672
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: and it is just I like hold it while I

673
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: talk to you know, like I just I play with it.

674
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: It's just the best. But but I but I also

675
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: I think I think that, you know, with the risk

676
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: of sounding like a grandmother like I, I you really

677
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: weirdly remind me a lot of myself as a stylist.

678
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: Meaning I see the way you light up when you

679
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: talk about what you do. There's a clear, over like

680
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: polarizing passion that you have with jewelry. And I think, truthfully,

681
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: I think that's why we connected it hello, because it

682
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: was sort of like I was piled in jewels, you

683
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: were piled in jewels. We were like, how do our me?

684
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: Like? You know.

685
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: But also I think it's it is that, you know,

686
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: I compare it to when I was styling and you know,

687
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: certain design houses wanting me to work only for them.

688
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: It was never an option for me because I was like,

689
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: I need to touch all of it, I need to

690
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: pull all of it, you know. And I think it's

691
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: I think it's I don't know. I think it's the

692
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: spice of life. And I think certainly any industry is

693
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: being able to see touch create your own amidst that,

694
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: and I, you know, I think it's it's funny because

695
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: people will say, oh, well, Briany, so is it just

696
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: her collection or I'm like, it's literally everything. It's the

697
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: best of everything, And that's sort of what I always

698
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: that's how I describe what your business is. Honestly, I

699
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: was like, yes, she makes incredible bespoke, this, that and

700
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: the other thing and all this incredible Briany pieces herself,

701
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: but she really deals and sells also so much in

702
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: just rare vintage estate and just the most special pieces.

703
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: So I think it's really the best of all worlds.

704
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: But I know that you are a mom to young boys,

705
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: but you're also you work like crazy, and I want

706
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: to talk about that because there are challenges with that.

707
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: So it's interesting because it's like you left something that

708
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: was sort of like this, Okay, I can't, you know,

709
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: dictate my life my schedule. But meanwhile, if someone's like

710
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: Evangelina A. Julie is like I need you on a plane,

711
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: or somebody whoever it is, is like I need you

712
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: on a plane in La like there is not one

713
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: breath you wouldn't take where you're not getting on that plane,

714
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 1: Like there isn't a thought, it's you're going to sort

715
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: everything out before you go, but you will be on

716
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: that plane. And I think that's the blessing and curse

717
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: of your name being on the door.

718
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: Correct, So true, No, it's absolutely true. It's like out

719
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: of the frying pan into the fire, right the phrases.

720
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: So, how do you deal with that? How do you

721
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: deal is that? Do you find the struggle with being

722
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: a really hard working but really hands on mom, because

723
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: it's real.

724
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: It is quite literally my greatest greatest struggle ever in

725
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 2: my life is reconciling.

726
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 3: The sincere.

727
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: True I feel like I can't emphasize enough like passion

728
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: and gratification and confidence and pure visceral joy I get

729
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: from building this brand and working with my clients and

730
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 2: being surrounded by beautiful jewelry and being trusted with these

731
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: incredibly intimate personal projects with the most incredible people ever.

732
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: And at the same time.

733
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: Obviously, nothing ever, possibly could matter more to me than

734
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: those boys, and it is so I literally I don't

735
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: think that there's like a cliche in the world that

736
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: I haven't heard, you know, for better or for worse again,

737
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: of people saying or it's you know, God, it's like

738
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: it's so hard. I have so many like thoughts and

739
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: feelings that all are so it's like waves crashing against

740
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: each other. This like hide of almost like competing conflicting

741
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: thoughts and feelings. One which is how proud I am,

742
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: how very proud I am to model for my boys,

743
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: just as you do a strong, confident, you know, brand building,

744
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: hard working person who you know absolutely loves they do.

745
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: At the same time, I also really really miss them.

746
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: I get like really really sad when I'm away from them,

747
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: And such a wild contradiction to be so excited and

748
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: happy about the thing that also almost like Paul heartache. Yeah,

749
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: it's such a wild contradictions. And one doesn't negate the other,

750
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: and they tye literally do co exist at the same time.

751
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: I will say one thing that really did make a

752
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: huge difference is my amazing husband, Luke, who is a

753
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: stay at home dad, and having Luke used to work

754
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: in the city.

755
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: We both worked in the city.

756
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: He sold his business a few years ago and you know,

757
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: sort of COVID adjacent and all of that. He was

758
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: in the advertising world, and having him there really helps.

759
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: Having their grandparents live two houses away my kids, they

760
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: have the same I always call our nanny or their

761
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: third parent. We've had the same amazing nanny since before

762
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: I was pregnant with Reese, so for eleven years they've

763
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 2: had you know, they have all of these wonderful, loving

764
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: people forming a commune around them, and that has really helped

765
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: me to feel like they have so much love. And

766
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: obviously every single second, whether it's a red eye home

767
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: or it's you know, getting home late at night after

768
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: an event, to see them for twenty minutes in the

769
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: morning before they go to school to then come back.

770
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Speaker 3: I'll do it. I want it in the twenty minutes

771
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 3: of snuggle time. Again.

772
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 2: I know I'm being to this snuggling preaching to the

773
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: choir here, but having that time like I eke out

774
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: every single second I can, and it is so divine

775
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: to have that time with them, and I also it

776
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: is so divine to have this incredible world that I

777
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: that I work in and love and brings me so

778
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 2: much joy.

779
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Speaker 1: And you, honestly, you don't have to choose. It's just

780
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: as women, that's just what we live with. It just

781
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: is it just is you literally want to be all

782
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: things to both and I think, but I think you're

783
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: doing it beautifully and I think that you know, I

784
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: love watching you when it makes me happy. I'm excited

785
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: to see as you, lady, I'm excited to see what's

786
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: what's next for you? What so like what is the

787
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: plan forward? Like you have so much going on? Like

788
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: but as you're building the brand, like what where do

789
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: you see it?

790
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: Like?

791
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: Do you want to lean more into your own? Do

792
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: you want to keep it like equal?

793
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: Do you like?

794
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: What do you or don't you even? You just take

795
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: it day by day and you just take it as

796
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: it comes, like well, because that's okay too, But I mean,

797
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm curious.

798
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's a wonderful question, I feel like,

799
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: because everything is so intense and so prenetic, and we're

800
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 2: literally I'm always sort of moving at such a fast pace.

801
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: I also always laugh that I.

802
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: Can only ever deal I'm sure my team finds it

803
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: less funny, but bless them for being so extraordinarily supportive.

804
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: But I literally only deal with this what's like right

805
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: in front of me as it's happening the same And

806
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: I think that's part right, And I say, that's why

807
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: you and I are both all same so.

808
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: So present, so ourselves so decisive.

809
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: But also it's sometimes it's one of those thingsverson's like, well,

810
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: what about the thing in three hours?

811
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell you. I can't tell you, not that.

812
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: I'll know. I'll know in three hours. I will.

813
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: I will figure it out, I swear. But yes, I

814
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: think the plan would be to keep doing what I'm doing.

815
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: And I really, I really feel I don't know's I

816
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: would love to have, like a really eloquent response to this.

817
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: There isn't one a lot of the time, truthfully, I

818
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: mean I don't just one.

819
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: I just yes, I guess.

820
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: I would be so so happy if I could tell

821
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: you any year in five years and ten years that

822
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: I still feel as excited and invigorated and creatively inspired

823
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: as I do now. It has never waned yet. As

824
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: I sit touching, knocking on wood, I designed to in

825
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: my sleep. I designed jewelry while I'm ching my makeup.

826
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: I designed jewelry while I'm talking to people. I also

827
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: am always thinking about, you know, when I go to

828
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: vintage shows, for instance, I'll think about a piece that

829
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: I saw four years ago.

830
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: When you call me and you're like, heybe of course

831
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: I'm thinking.

832
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: I want nineteen sixties Tuba gossp but I'd like it

833
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: to have you know, pink staffires in the front.

834
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: And I'm like, there was that piece four yars ago, but.

835
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: By the way, I mean this year's Oscars. I think.

836
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: I text you like I'm thinking like black white, Emerald,

837
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: Da da da, like I don't even remember. And you

838
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: were like like this and I was like, yeah, like

839
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: that exactly.

840
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: Jewelry so well, my mag I spirit animal.

841
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: The two of us about seventeen pieces of jewelry all

842
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: at the same time.

843
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: Would you say in the business your like your best

844
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: spoke collections are like, what is it thirty percent to

845
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: seventy vintage in a state or is it fifty fifth?

846
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: Like how are you?

847
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: It's actually it's wild. It's exactly fifty to fifty and

848
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: you know, it's so wild, not by and this has

849
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: been year after year. It's so crazy. And I every

850
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: time we talk about, you know, with our accountants, and honestly,

851
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: as much as yes, I am a numbers person, yes,

852
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: I weirdly do also have a business brain. I actually

853
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: don't day to day pay much attention to like skills

854
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: and this and that. I'm really focused more on getting

855
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: through the day. But whenever we do have any type

856
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: of sort of perspective and have that moment where we're

857
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 2: talking about the breakdown of how different you know, sort

858
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: of where focus and energy and resources should be designated,

859
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: it is so wild to me how evenly split they

860
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: are between the kind of and I combine you know,

861
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: Briany Raymond's collection and bespoke basically anything that we make.

862
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: And also I have to note, just because I'm so

863
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: proud of it, but our workshop is here in New York,

864
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: so all of our kind of all in New York,

865
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: and it's really important to meet, to us support our

866
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: wonderful New York workshop and our New York dory industry,

867
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: and to keep things here where I can my interperfectionist

868
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: I can see things and touch them and see the

869
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: castings and all that. But it is truly half and

870
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: half so and and by the way, again, like with pleasure,

871
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: I'm so glad it's that because I could never be

872
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: I would. It would be really hard for me if

873
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: somebody said, oh, well, well not that I not that

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Speaker 2: I I can take advice.

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Speaker 3: I love advice. I also at the end of the

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Speaker 3: day we.

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Speaker 2: Say, like my decisions you can tell me all you want,

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Speaker 2: but like I will make my own decisions.

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Speaker 3: It would be really hard to choose.

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Speaker 2: And both, thankfully and half continuous play equal equal roles

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Speaker 2: in the business.

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Speaker 1: Well, I love you a whole lot. I loved having

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Speaker 1: you on. I love keeping it real, and I love

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Speaker 1: watching you continue to win and I will continue to

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Speaker 1: wear and I will continue to be dripping and Brian

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Speaker 1: Raymond for the rest of.

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Speaker 3: My Oh, thank you for the support. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: having me on my very first podcast.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love you. I'm so glad it was

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Speaker 1: your That's so exciting.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love you madly.

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Speaker 3: I love you, babe.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Briani for coming on the

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Speaker 1: pod today. She's so smart and so glamorous. Again, I

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Speaker 1: hate to sound like a grandparent, but she reminds me

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Speaker 1: of myself as a stylist, where someone would ask me

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Speaker 1: a question about a designer, why I loved a certain

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Speaker 1: trend or why I love fashion, and it was like

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Speaker 1: I couldn't stop spewing. Why my eyes would light up,

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Speaker 1: my whole body would get up straight. I would have

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Speaker 1: this like huge East to West smile on my face

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Speaker 1: when I spoke about it. And for me, just getting

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Speaker 1: to interview people that are so passionate, so deeply passionate

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Speaker 1: about what they do is always just really fun for me.

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Speaker 1: And also I deeply feel her struggles about, you know,

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Speaker 1: wanting to provide her clients with the best there is

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Speaker 1: and also wanting to show up for her kids every

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Speaker 1: minute of every day and not being able to literally

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Speaker 1: cut yourself in half. It's a real struggle and one

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Speaker 1: I think many of us and most on Climbing and

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Speaker 1: Heels have to deal with on the daily. So doesn't

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Speaker 1: go underappreciated that you do. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to Climbing and Heels. If you haven't already, please

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Speaker 1: single episode this season, and be sure to follow me

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Speaker 1: on Instagram on at Rachel Zo and the show at

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Speaker 1: Clembing and hills Pod for the latest episodes and updates.

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