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Speaker 1: The Nikki Gliser Pugain, Niki Gleser pos Hello here, I

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Speaker 1: An and welcome to the show. It's Niklaser Podcast. Sorry

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Speaker 1: for that graveliness in my voice. Don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: It's a great new week of the show. This is

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Speaker 1: a very exciting episode. Brian Frangie is here. What's up, Brian?

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Speaker 2: What's up? I don't know nothing. I mean, there's so

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Speaker 2: many things going on. There's so many things going on

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Speaker 2: in the country right now. But other than that, so

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Speaker 2: many I mean, it's pretty wild. This is a historic

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Speaker 2: time and I don't think we've ever lived through something

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Speaker 2: quite as tumultuous. I saw them.

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Speaker 1: It was about like how this is going to be

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Speaker 1: the hardest part of the ap like GOV exam in

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Speaker 1: twenty fifty two or whatever, Like this is going to

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Speaker 1: be the one that's we'll really get you.

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Speaker 2: No, I think about that like that there's going to

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Speaker 2: be students ten years from now who are going to

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Speaker 2: have to like learn about nine to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Oh, like they're not teaching it yet, you don't think.

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Speaker 2: I mean no, I don't think so. They're still trying

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Speaker 2: to cover it up. But I think ten years from now,

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Speaker 2: when things get more free. I think, I think it

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Speaker 2: is my favorite day. That would be my favorite.

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Speaker 1: Week of school is the day we learn about nine

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Speaker 1: to eleven. Let's get speaking of nine to eleven, let's

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Speaker 1: get into this conversation. He is one of the funniest

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Speaker 1: people I know. He and we had a podcast together

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Speaker 1: with Brian Frangie. It was my second podcast of my life,

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Speaker 1: and this is I think my fifth. But he is

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Speaker 1: so funny. He has a special on YouTube and I

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Speaker 1: didn't look up the name Dan.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, Dance Fatty Dance.

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Speaker 1: Dance Fatty Dance. How could you forget that? It's Dan

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Speaker 1: Saint Jermaine. Everyone Hello. We had a podcast, all three

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Speaker 1: of us back in the back in the.

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Speaker 2: Day, all so called Dance Patty Dance. It was Dance

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Speaker 2: Patty Dance with Nikki Glazer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nick It was Nicky's three hundred pound period.

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Speaker 3: She was quite.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were. We We all worked on Not Safe,

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Speaker 1: which is the show that I hosted on Comedy Central,

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Speaker 1: and and we had the not Safe podcast, which was

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Speaker 1: the companion podcast to the show. Uh, that's when shows

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Speaker 1: were a bigger deal than podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, soon you're gonna have to be like.

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Speaker 1: You get a show with the podcast that's so crazy, you're.

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Speaker 3: On this network called Comedy Central. To that point, do

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Speaker 3: you know that.

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Speaker 1: Comedy Central has three, like three shows? I think, Brian,

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Speaker 1: you were the.

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Speaker 2: One that They've got four shows, Daily.

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Speaker 1: Show, South Park, Aquafina, and one other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a cartoon called.

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Speaker 2: Well not really not yet, but that's still one of

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Speaker 2: their shows technically because it's not canceled. Yeah. No, Comedy

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Speaker 2: Central is going extinct. And they've I mean probably out

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Speaker 2: of all the channels on cable, they're the ones who

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Speaker 2: just gave it up. They just decided, we're not going

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Speaker 1: They didn't try, Like where did it fail? You think?

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Speaker 2: I think they stopped trying. They stopped developing shows, they

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Speaker 1: This just okay, This is what whenever a business starts

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Speaker 1: isn't that really the underlying issue with everything? When something's

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Speaker 1: like you go to a restaurant, you're like, it sucks.

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Speaker 1: It's like they're not paying people enough, so it should suck.

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Speaker 1: Is that the issue?

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Speaker 2: That's part of the issue. But I also point to leadership.

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Speaker 2: I think we know from Not Safe that viacom never

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Speaker 2: Gets banned and you're like, why do not even try?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Dan, are you on TikTok?

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Speaker 3: I am, but I might get a My social media

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Speaker 1: I love when it does that, and then you look

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Speaker 1: why is it that when you do speak into your

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Speaker 1: Or the one where Scarlet Johansson's the voice, Well, that

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Speaker 2: I just remember Jaquin Phoenix wanting to fuck that robot.

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Speaker 1: It's like dating Tristan Thompson realizing there's so many girls

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Speaker 1: being a sister wife. Though, like I think you'd make

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Speaker 3: could be in I don't know if it's polyamory.

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Speaker 1: Or it's competitive and I will win. I always thought

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Speaker 1: I always just thought it was such a bad thing

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Speaker 2: Tapping into what drives you as a three as an

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Speaker 2: He's surrounded by people watching you succeed. U is the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish I could be like Anya. Like the

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Speaker 1: Dan that means, like the reason you feel valued is

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Speaker 1: And why am I here? Because alternative is I have

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Speaker 3: I think with sports, sometimes you can have somebody who's

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Speaker 3: Stand up because like almost like how many Savadds have

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Speaker 3: you known in stand up?

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Speaker 1: It's not a thing. I mean Chappelle, yeah, yeah, one

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Speaker 1: and Spille works hard to I don't really know what

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Speaker 1: only thing that there aren't that many people that are

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Speaker 1: just like born gifted. I think that talent, as we

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Speaker 2: That's why stand up is like the most beautiful art

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Speaker 1: a show. Yeah, and I go, Chris, except what I

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Speaker 1: just sent you and he just blindly is in conversation

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Speaker 1: with someone just accepts it, and I'm like tracking him

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Speaker 1: And then I like tracked him for so long and

442
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Speaker 1: I would like plan being gross around when he was

443
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Speaker 1: like gone. It was it was really worked out. But

444
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Speaker 1: now we don't track each other anymore. I just feel

445
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Speaker 1: like I know that he's just not into that, even

446
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Speaker 1: though I do want to know all the time, Like

447
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Speaker 1: how long I have even though I'm not doing anything bad.

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Speaker 2: You have the pizza tracker now, and that's all you

449
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Speaker 2: really need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's he doesn't. Yeah, it's yeah, because the Little

451
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Speaker 1: Caesars called back. I get it. I get it.

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Speaker 2: Not even Dan, what was that?

453
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Speaker 3: It was a little confused because because I'm such a fact,

454
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Speaker 3: I'm like.

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Speaker 2: The Pizza Hut. Pizza Hut does pizza trackers. I can

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Speaker 2: see how that could be confusing.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna go to break and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: come back with more dancing Germaine, which he has a

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Speaker 1: YouTube comedy special out that is so fucking funny. I

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Speaker 1: did watch it, Dan, I watched like three fourths of it,

461
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Speaker 1: which is like a lot for me. And I think

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Speaker 1: I quick because I got distracted, not because I watched

463
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Speaker 1: yours too.

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Speaker 3: Your I was yeah. I mean, like I thought as

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Speaker 3: far as special as it was like you and Dan,

466
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Speaker 3: and I thought Collins was really good too, But that

467
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Speaker 3: was it was.

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Speaker 1: Man. Well, I am nominated for an Emmy. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that when you get that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: When Dan stops talking. Okay, we're back. Thanks Dan. That

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Speaker 1: was really nice of you to say that about my special.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like your special lot too. It's called run, Fatty Run?

475
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Speaker 1: Is that it?

476
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Speaker 2: Where do you film this special?

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Speaker 3: Brooklyn Comedy Club Old Man Hustle? But I think that

478
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Speaker 3: they're closing down.

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Speaker 1: I was confusing to sign it to the background. I

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Speaker 1: was like, it's his special called old Man Hustle because

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Speaker 1: it's like a prominent sign.

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Speaker 3: That was so like, uh, you know, I went on

483
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Speaker 3: Mayor and My Man. The first thing Mary goes was

484
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Speaker 3: it like unfinished? I'm like, no, it wasn't unfinished.

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Speaker 1: Alright, all right, active wherever you are?

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Speaker 3: Dan?

487
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Speaker 1: Moving around a lot?

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Speaker 3: I know I move around a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's your thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I move around. I'm saying, but fat.

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Speaker 1: Where were you guys this weekend when the when the

492
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Speaker 1: news dropped about Biden.

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Speaker 3: I was on a lovely little excursion to City Island

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Speaker 3: with my wife and cute.

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Speaker 1: What's that? What does that?

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Speaker 3: What do you?

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Speaker 1: What's City Island?

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Speaker 3: It's I guess it's off this It's it's in New York.

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Speaker 3: It's like off the city. But it's like next time,

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Speaker 3: in New York if you're looking for like a day

501
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Speaker 3: trip in the summer, they have like all a little likes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and what do you do? What do you do

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Speaker 1: when you walk on you just walk with the dog

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Speaker 1: on the island.

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Speaker 3: Well, we went to a dog park first, and we

506
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Speaker 3: went to a park and we walked for that and

507
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Speaker 3: then we you know.

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Speaker 2: It's City Island different than Governor's Island or is it rebrand?

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Speaker 3: I think is different because Governor's Island there's no cars

510
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Speaker 3: on it.

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Speaker 2: You have to take a ferry to get there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, drive City Island.

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Speaker 1: When you're just hanging out with your wife all day,

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Speaker 1: both of you like who's doing most of the talking?

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Speaker 3: Like my wife?

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Speaker 1: What really?

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Speaker 3: I talk a lot, but like and everyone you had

518
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Speaker 3: before this, I was the talker, but my wife talks

519
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Speaker 3: way more than me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And are you listening? Do you like that?

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Speaker 3: Not all the time? Yeah, but I like the you

522
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Speaker 3: know what, I never have to fucking worry about. You know,

523
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Speaker 3: this is what I love my wife is even if

524
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Speaker 3: I get annoyed if she's like sometimes, you know, I

525
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Speaker 3: have a relationship you need to break. Like I've never

526
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Speaker 3: had to play the game when I've dated other girls

527
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Speaker 3: of like, oh god, is she pissed? What did that mean?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 3: Why? You know? My wife like all immediately one time

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Speaker 3: I was like, are you annoyed? She was, yeah, you

531
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Speaker 3: know what, I am a little fucking pissed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's the best.

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Speaker 3: You know exactly. And so I'd rather have that because yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm a little more passive aggressive, and my wife has

535
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Speaker 3: to like figure me out.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than than someone who you know, isn't

537
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Speaker 1: like mad about something, who won't admit it and is

538
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Speaker 1: just like trying to is just being passive aggressive about it.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's such a prison, and it is nice

540
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Speaker 1: when someone is just so transparent and like can say

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Speaker 1: it right away. Chris and I have like worked really

542
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Speaker 1: hard to say immediately when something is like bothering us.

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Speaker 1: We've gotten pretty good at it, like to the point

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Speaker 1: that I think before I used to always worry is

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Speaker 1: something I said, like if his mood would change a

546
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Speaker 1: little bit, And now I'm like, he'll just I think

547
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Speaker 1: I trust him just to tell me now. And so

548
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Speaker 1: I don't like panic as much. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: what he'd say for if i'd talk them he'd probably

550
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Speaker 1: say that I talk way more than he does. But

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Speaker 1: they're like, Brian, what about you? And Ali? Who's doing

552
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Speaker 1: most of the talking?

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Speaker 2: Definitely me? I mean I frequently will just be like

554
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Speaker 2: pacing back and forth in the living room while she

555
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Speaker 2: sits on the couch and listens to my like seminar

556
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Speaker 2: and she called them seminars.

557
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Speaker 1: Now will she be able to be on her phone

558
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Speaker 1: during this? Like I want to know the vibe of like,

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Speaker 1: I'm same with you, Dan, are you able to be

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Speaker 1: on your phone like half listening? Like because my partner

561
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Speaker 1: does not care if I'm like multitasking listening to him,

562
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Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful for that.

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Speaker 3: It just depends on the situation. Yea Friday night, I

564
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Speaker 3: made us put our our phones down, I mean Saturday

565
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Speaker 3: night because we watched a movie I love. And I

566
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Speaker 3: was like, we have to put our phone?

567
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Speaker 1: What movie?

568
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Speaker 3: No Country for Old Man?

569
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Speaker 1: Oh?

570
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, this one is not a phone movie,

571
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Speaker 3: you know. But for the most part, I'm five with it.

572
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Speaker 1: I only know that movie from the Wikipedia. It is

573
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Speaker 1: too scary for me to watch, so I've read the

574
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Speaker 1: plot a lot in Wikipedia, and I don't it's not

575
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Speaker 1: Wikipedia plots they need some help people get in there.

576
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, help out.

577
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Speaker 1: They are really I think they're they're they're not. I

578
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: can't follow it enough.

579
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Speaker 2: And Wikipedia is really good for describing historical events, which

580
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Speaker 2: is similar to a plot. Is wick Wikipedia is good

581
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Speaker 2: that it's not good at regular plots. And it's also,

582
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: by the way, awful. If anyone looks up Wikipedia for

583
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Speaker 2: medical advice or to explain a disease, it's that might

584
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Speaker 2: be the worst place to I'd rather you go to

585
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Speaker 2: Cura whatever, however, you say that, Oh yeah, then go

586
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Speaker 2: to Wikipedia.

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Speaker 1: Cora where every answer is an ad Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: That makes no sense, no sense, you know on Cura

589
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: where you you google a question and there.

590
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Speaker 1: You can't even get right sticky okay, So yeah you okay,

591
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: So you ask.

592
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 2: And then you go down and then there's more questions

593
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Speaker 2: that you're like, I'm interested in these questions, and then

594
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: you click on the questions like answer, and then you

595
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: click on the question and it goes. You need to

596
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: sign up if you want to read the answer to

597
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Speaker 2: these questions.

598
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Speaker 1: It'll be a question and then there will be no answer.

599
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: There'll be more questions with commentary but no answer. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: just the point of this website is to have a

601
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Speaker 1: question and then like crowdsource answers, it's a mess.

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Speaker 2: Ready are you?

603
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Speaker 1: What about you? Is Ali allowed to be on her

604
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Speaker 1: phone when you're I have it.

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Speaker 2: I have been annoyed by her going on her phone

606
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Speaker 2: during a conversation before and pointed it out, and then

607
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Speaker 2: she generally, I mean it just it just depends on

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Speaker 2: the situation. Like sometimes I'll just like come in guns

609
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Speaker 2: blazing while she's like working, and I'll be like and

610
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Speaker 2: then they said this, and she's like, I don't even

611
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. I'm trying to write a

612
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Speaker 2: work email. And now those instances, I can see how

613
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Speaker 2: I'm wrong. But then sometimes we're like just like went

614
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Speaker 2: to dinner and we're having like a conversation and she

615
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Speaker 2: doesn't go on her phone, but she she'll get she'll

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00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 2: be interested in something else and then point it out.

617
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: Like I'll be like talking to her about like, yeah,

618
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: I'm having this problem with I can't get an appointment

619
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Speaker 2: with the doctor, and she'll go a full moon and

620
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: I'll be like I'm talking to you about the doctor

621
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Speaker 2: and she's like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and they'll

622
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 2: be like yeah, and then the doctor goes like that

623
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Speaker 2: and and then she's like, oh my god, a bug,

624
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Ali, can we just can you respond

625
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: to what I'm saying? So sometimes that happens.

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Speaker 1: I feel really bad for people who have no one

627
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: but their partner to talk to you, because a partner

628
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: can't handle all of that. And I know both of

629
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: you are pretty good about having friendships, yes, but there

630
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: are some dudes out there and women with no one

631
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: but their partner to bitch about their life too.

632
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, got it.

633
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: You gotta try, like you gotta like you know, one

634
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Speaker 3: of the things that I've been doing this is so sad, Nikki,

635
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: But like, Okay, next time I see you, Nikki, and like,

636
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: if we go to coffee or dinner right and just

637
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: hang out, yeah, I will. Then I have a twenty

638
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: twenty four list, I will write that hangout down just

639
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: prove that I have some social life. Yeah, okay, I

640
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: did a family reading this because I have like the

641
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 3: things that I need to do for the year. But

642
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: then I'll be like, okay, but I also did this

643
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: socially to know that I hung out and I'm not.

644
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Speaker 1: Just was this always a thing for you that you

645
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: were tracking your social hangouts.

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00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: Last company. I'm very I'm OCD, and it's like the

647
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 3: one thing about my OCD is that I make I

648
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: make lists a lot. I used to get like, this

649
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: is the stupid, Like when I was like smoking shitloads

650
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: of weed during COVID, I would be like, Oh, I'm

651
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: gonna write down all the movies I've ever seen, like

652
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: high as fun, just writing down every movie I could

653
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Speaker 3: think of that I saw. And I'm like, who is

654
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: this for? What?

655
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, list feel good to make for some reason. They're satisfying,

656
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: but I'm wondering about this, like tracking your hangouts. So

657
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: this was something that you were like, I'm having a

658
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: deficit in my life of like social hangs because do

659
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: not live by people that you.

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00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: I think that it's very it's very simple, it's very easy,

661
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: and this is for all of us. And Brian, I

662
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: don't know how much stand up you're doing right now,

663
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: but like if when you're doing a lot of stand

664
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: up and you your whole fucking thing is to be

665
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: around people every night when you have a night off,

666
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: your thing is thank god, I can just be home

667
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: with my wife. So I try to, and I still

668
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: usually when I don't have shows. I don't want to

669
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: go out, but like, you know, it's like, all right,

670
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: tomorrow night, I'm gonna try to, you know, get dinner

671
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: with fucking Di Stefano before my show. You know. Yeah,

672
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: I try to do stuff like that, but like, yeah,

673
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: it's it's tough, man, because I'm an isolator. You know,

674
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: I'm very I'm like a I'm like a introvert in

675
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: extrovert clothing, you know.

676
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, but you know that it makes you feel

677
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: better when you hang out with people, So you're forcing

678
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: yourself to do it, and you got to make your

679
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: little list.

680
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: You gotta picture it's the right person. Sometimes they'll hang

681
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: out with a friend and I'm like, oh, I think I.

682
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just likes when you fall into a habit

683
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: of like, oh, I just like to hang out with

684
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: my dog and Chris and that's all I want to

685
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: do is just watch TV on the couch and not

686
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: do anything. Like last night, Chris went to a concert

687
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: mates of State, and I was gonna go, but I'd

688
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: just gotten back in town and I'm like, I think

689
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: I just want to stay in And then the whole

690
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: time I'm home, I'm just like regretting that I didn't

691
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: go out and support live music, and that I was then,

692
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't really get anything.

693
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: Done more besides Taylor Swift though, Like, do you want

694
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: to go to like, yeah, fucking Terminal five and wait

695
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: till band you way, No, I.

696
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: Want to go late and just see a couple songs

697
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: and just get a sense of the performance and maybe

698
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: learn something about what I should do on stage or

699
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: how I should be with my fans, Like try to

700
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: glean something from the performance aspect of it, especially since

701
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do music.

702
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: Huh, so you do that? Who are the musicians that

703
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: you're like, Oh, okay, I can.

704
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean Taylor Swift's the one that obviously I've seen

705
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: sixty hours of in the last fifteen months, so it's

706
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: like I've studied her more than anyone. It's probably rubbing

707
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: off on me, I hope a little bit. But I

708
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: think you can learn something from anyone. Like even my dad.

709
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: I go see him every Wednesday night at the Pasta

710
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: House in Saint Louis on Woodlawn Road in kirkwad. Yeah,

711
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: my dad plays. He does like every Wednesday, plays in

712
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: this like kind of atrium place and then a lot

713
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: of times my mom and me and Chris and his

714
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: family and maybe my mom's two friends are the only audience.

715
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: But we just watched my dad play for like five people,

716
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is all and we can talk

717
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: during it because we don't respect him, you know, and

718
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: and his art, so we just like talk and my

719
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: dad plays over it. But my dad gets also also play,

720
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: and we have moments and we clap after every song.

721
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: So it's like it's so fun. But I learned stuff

722
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: from him too, of just.

723
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, wholesome, cherished.

724
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing. I almost don't even say on

725
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: the podcast because I don't want too many people going

726
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: to it and I don't want it to turn into

727
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: something where I have to like be something I'm not

728
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: because I just want to go and like eat salad

729
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: and uh fried portobellos and just listen to my dad.

730
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: But it's so wholesome, it's like it will be the thing.

731
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Chris and I had a moment where like this, these

732
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: are the nights because our families are all there, The

733
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: kids are there, like all our nieces and nephews are

734
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: all playing and running around, and we're like, these are

735
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: the nights. We'll think back on and be like, man,

736
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: we really had it all, like it's it's weird to

737
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: be like living in that and yeah it's my favorite thing.

738
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, I want to go see more. I want

739
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: to you know what, I want to watch more stand up.

740
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: That's why I put That's why I watched your special, Dan.

741
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: I was like looking for people who I admire and

742
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: who are such great writers to like inspire me, and

743
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to watch more stand up. I was

744
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: with a Spade this weekend at the Venetian, which was

745
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: he was so fucking funny I can't even believe it.

746
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: And it by the end of the week I was mind. Yeah,

747
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: so I open the show because I don't want to

748
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: follow that and I just want to enjoy his set

749
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: without thinking about mine. So it's just perfect. I bring

750
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: him up and then I just sit back and laugh.

751
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 1: But man, it it does rub off on me. Like

752
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: I am kind of a sponge when it comes to

753
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: things I admire, and I start kind of I don't

754
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: steal their I don't plan on doing it, but it

755
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: like I start kind of talking a little Spade like

756
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: and like kind of make it like it happens. Actually,

757
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: if I surround my if have to saturate myself in it.

758
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: So I've been trying to watch more stand up and

759
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: I want to go see more stand up and force myself.

760
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to. But I see more stand up,

761
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: I might watch it at home, a clip here and there,

762
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: I give specials like six minutes, and then I ditch out.

763
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.

764
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: Think that's fine though. I mean, I Spade, because Spade

765
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: and you are so different, are different enough that like

766
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: whatever whatever you take from him, yes, it would be

767
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,239
Speaker 3: enough of a spin. Like I get nerves, Like if

768
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: I watch if I spent all day only watching like

769
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: Kyle Kanane and Mike Lawrence, yeah, I would be nervous

770
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: close to what you do. It was too close, I

771
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: would probably or patent or something like that. Pat and

772
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: I are a lot different. But like if I'm watching,

773
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: like that's why I like love watching people like Earthquake.

774
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

775
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 1: Because you will pick up something.

776
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: Well, no, Earthquake actually stole Mysen, so I'm pretty pissed

777
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: about that.

778
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that you were you were first Earth.

779
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: Well do you guys feel like I'm guessing everyone feels

780
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: this way. You gotta steal essences and and and not

781
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: intentionally by the way, but like, I was watching Chad Daniels'

782
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: special last night, which is really funny. It's on Netflix.

783
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: Forget the name of it, but I think it's his

784
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: first Netflix special. So fun est, empty Nest. Thank you,

785
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: Chad Daniels. Check that out.

786
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: Check that guy.

787
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: He is such a great guy. And also I was

788
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: telling Chris he's like the comedian that ever he's a

789
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: comedians comedian like comedians know. He's like one of the best,

790
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: certainly out of the Midwest, and like has stayed in

791
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: the Midwest on purpose. And but anyway, he's so funny.

792
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: And I was watching his thing and I was like,

793
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, I remember a time where every comedian

794
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: that I knew was trying to sound like Chad Daniels,

795
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: and even me probably.

796
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: Midwest you guys, Like there was like there's a he

797
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: maybe I guess Shane is probably the most influential now

798
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: because everyone's doing the same.

799
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: Thing with Oh my god, they're all doing the classmen

800
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: in the hands. You're right, oh yeah, yes.

801
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh man even noticed that.

802
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they do it. People do it a lot.

803
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: But like, but Chad Daniels has inspired there's a Midwest

804
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 3: great comedy writer, and I would like put that, put

805
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: you in there. I would put like Greg Warren in there.

806
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: I would put Tommy Johnigan in there. But it's a

807
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: very like, hey, let's I'm comfortable on stage, but let's

808
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: lean with fucking good let's lead with good jokes first, Yeah,

809
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: and make this ship layered. And I feel like, yeah,

810
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: he's he's he's like there's that's like the Midwest and

811
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: and ideally Midwest. My favorite audience is too because there's

812
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: nothing to fucking do there, so you have to see

813
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 3: Sam comedy.

814
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point. Yeah, I've never even thought

815
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: about it that way. But yeah, I was talking to

816
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: someone about the Kansas City comedy scene, this Mike bryden

817
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: Stein right.

818
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: Out, Yeah, yeah, Mike.

819
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: Why am I saying his name weirdly? I don't. I

820
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: didn't have much confidence in that, but I love Mike,

821
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: and he was he's writing a book about the Kansas

822
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: City comedy scene, and he's like, this is the craziest

823
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: club I've ever heard about in all of my like

824
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: research of comedy. The Stanford and Sons, which is the

825
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: club I started at run by Craig Glazer. It's legendary

826
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: and it was. It made me feel pretty good. He's like,

827
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: you started in the most insane time with the most

828
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: insane club owners in the most toxic environment, and I'm like,

829
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: I really did. I didn't realize it wasn't like that everywhere.

830
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: When I did that Sanfordson weekend. If you guys don't know,

831
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: Sanford Soon was run by two brothers, one a heroin addict,

832
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: one a cokehead, and the coke head picked me up,

833
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: dropped an N bomb of meeting immediately, I said the.

834
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: Same thing on this Oh that was my first time

835
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: ever hearing the N word in that from a white person. Like, honestly,

836
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: I've never like where I was like, oh, you think

837
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: this is okay to say? And I remember I felt

838
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: horrible because I didn't say, like, hey, don't say that.

839
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: But I was like twenty four and just eager for

840
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: the gig. But I remember that was Craig Lazer was

841
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: the first one to Yeah.

842
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: The ghost of Martin Luther King could come down to

843
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: that guy and bag so you need to look still

844
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: say the N word. I remember his whole thing. He's

845
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: like his ration for me. He's like I'm allowed to

846
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: say that. I'm allowed to say the N word, man,

847
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 3: because I'm dating this black stripper.

848
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

849
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: He was always dating a black stripper. Yeah yeah, and

850
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: would drive you around his little car. Loved spending time

851
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: with comedians. You had to put in so much time

852
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: with him.

853
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: And then as the club named after the show, yeah,

854
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: I think, which is like a black show.

855
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: But but it was a play on the show because

856
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: his dad's name was stan Stanford and so is it's

857
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: not Stanford and says it's Stanford and Sons.

858
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

859
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: If you if you ever want to see a social

860
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: media reaction of someone in comedy dying and no one

861
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: giving his shit, oh it was that that guy died

862
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: and it was like just a roast of him for

863
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 3: like eight straight on Twitter.

864
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't too.

865
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: He owes me Twitter fifty bucks.

866
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, he owed a lot of people money. He

867
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: was really nice to me and like when I was

868
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: in the Kansas City scene, he took me out and

869
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: got me on radio for the first time and got

870
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: me all you know these spots. Never paid me for

871
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: anything that I did, but you know, and build me

872
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: as He would like put up posters to promote weekends

873
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: I was MCing as like I'm the next Ellen Degenerous,

874
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: which is so misleading, except that I will come out

875
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: as gay someday.

876
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, nothing about thing.

877
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 1: About us exceptly a blonde hair and we're white. Yeah

878
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: it was and so but yeah, he helped me out

879
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: a lot, but he was not a But get this,

880
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: so he forever was talking about selling a script. You

881
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: probably heard about it when you were there, right, Like,

882
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: he wrote a book called The King of Sting about

883
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: his coming up as a He would like propose as

884
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: a cop doing stings and then rob people is essentially

885
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: what he would do for years and years in his twenties.

886
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: And he wrote a whole book about it. And then

887
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: he sold the script and Clint Eastwood was gonna make it,

888
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: and it was always this like Brad Pitt's attached and

889
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: we went and it was always falling through, and it

890
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: was kind of like, what is this? Even this was

891
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: before we could really have proof of anything happening. But

892
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: he dies and then like two months later, the script

893
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: is optioned and it is being made, and it's made

894
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: by someone who's really I forget who's making it, but

895
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: someone who's done some shit. It's gonna be like a

896
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: real movie that this guy his whole life lied about

897
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: almost like lied and just like tried to get it

898
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: made so much he wrote it actually, and apparently the

899
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: script kind of because I go, I said to Mike,

900
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: I go, are they gonna say this is a real story?

901
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Because people were kind of calling the book bullshit, and

902
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: it's just kind of gonna be presented as like it's

903
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: gonna start out with Craig Glazer on the radio saying

904
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: like it's a true story and people being like yeah, right,

905
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: and he's like it all happened, and so it's gonna

906
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: and the title card is like this, this is a

907
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: true story, probably like it's but he's getting it made.

908
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 3: Wow. I had a friend of mine who's dead now,

909
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 3: but he was. He would he was a Heroin addict

910
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: and he would go into Camden and like shake heroin

911
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: deal He would steal his brother's cop car, be his

912
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: brother's a and he would shake down god heroin dealers

913
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: to get heroin.

914
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: Which is did he die of heroin?

915
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: You know, I mean he's a pretty badass dude, but

916
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: still I'm like, somebody's gonna kill you, dude.

917
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: Did he die of Heroin?

918
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: No? He he had real problems at the end of

919
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: his life, but he had he had a leukemia at

920
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: the end.

921
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you really saw that going a different way.

922
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: Yes, So he wrote this book King of.

923
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: Yes, he wrote the Craig Lazer.

924
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Craig Lazer, King of Sting and now he died

925
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 2: and then someone else the book is really good.

926
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: Like he gave it to me and I was like, God,

927
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: I have to read this fucking thing before I go back. Wow.

928
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: And it is an actually compelling book. And I do

929
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: believe it's a true story because I don't think he's

930
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: this good at lying and being creative to come up

931
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: with this this tale, because he wasn't like a creative force.

932
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: He was just kind of like a marketing man machine.

933
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: And I mean it's a good idea for a movie.

934
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you meet him and he's like, I pretended

935
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: to be a cop to get money.

936
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: You like, yeah, it checks out, totally does. But I mean,

937
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: Heroin's interesting because I don't I think I would probably

938
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: do anything to get Heroin too. If I tried it.

939
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm almost you know what I mean, Like you see

940
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: people pass it on the sidewalk and you're like, how

941
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: could they do that, and you're like, because that's how

942
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: good that thing is, That's how good that thing feels.

943
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, apparently, I mean, I mean I did you know,

944
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: like last year when I was like relapsing after my

945
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: mom died, I did oxy and it was the first

946
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 3: I've done oxy a couple of times.

947
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: What do you mean by doing oxy? Just taking the

948
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: pills or.

949
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: In a couple of pills. But because as somebody I

950
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: guess had died of cancer, some left and it was

951
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: a comic you gave me. But I was like I

952
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: had it and I'm watching Deadwood and I'm like, Okay,

953
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 3: I'm fine with this being the rest of my life. Wow,

954
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: like just sitting here and like enjoying this feeling no ambition.

955
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 3: It's but with no ambition, no ambition, you're just you're

956
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: just fine. The drugs that people are doing now, like

957
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: when I was came back from rehab in December, the

958
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: stuff that the kids are on now, it's all like

959
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: end of life fetanyl shit, Like it's all the stuff

960
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: like people who have cancer who have like two days

961
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: left to live are using like and uh, and we

962
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: can't hang like like nobody like if you tell those

963
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: kids like, oh, you do heroin. They're like you pussy wow.

964
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, yeah, I was really surprised to

965
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: see so many, or at least maybe one or two

966
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: to intervention episodes where the person was doing fentanyl And

967
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, I thought ventanyl was the thing you

968
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: accidentally do and then you die off. Like I didn't

969
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: know you could actually do it and figure out a

970
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: way to do it and keep living.

971
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: But we're doing it now. I mean, it's a hundred

972
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 3: times more powerful than heroin, So it's what the fuck?

973
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: Man? Ugh, life is so hard. I will say though

974
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: that I like, I love smoking weed, like it just

975
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: like when I'm going through when I'm feeling anxious and

976
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: there's really nothing that can maybe stop. I can almost

977
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: relate to someone who like risks it all, like I

978
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: will risk not at all, but I will risk showing

979
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: up for something my best self, or I will risk

980
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: having a sore throat because I just want the relief

981
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: that I feel as soon as I get it right,

982
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: and then it eventually feels not good. And I'm kind

983
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: of trying to like figure out what that relief is

984
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: and I think I have it totally perfectly, Like I

985
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: think I can describe it for people now like of

986
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: what I feel, and it is the exact feeling I

987
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: felt when I heard Joe Biden dropped out. I was relieved.

988
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: I was a little bit like everything's fine, and like

989
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: also excited, and then within five minutes I was worried again.

990
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: And there's a whole new batch of anxieties to consider,

991
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: and that I think is weed. Like I really because

992
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: I felt like, oh my god, everything's gonna be okay.

993
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: This is like a really good sign. And then instantly

994
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, there's just now just opened another

995
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: door of anxieties that I that I wasn't even worried

996
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: about before, and now I don't. I don't have anywhere

997
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: to turn to. I guess I'll masturbate. Will that help it?

998
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: I'm jealous that you're still able to masturbate, But I

999
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: feel like if anyone asks you, like, oh it's bad

1000
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: to do, we just be like, look, Mike Tyson has

1001
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: done every drug in the world, and the one he's

1002
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: good on is WI.

1003
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. Is that true?

1004
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he was like he was fucking I

1005
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: don't know if he's done everybody.

1006
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 1: He was a crack nobody. Is he good on it though?

1007
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 3: Like, or is he just he's not killing everybody? You know,

1008
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: Like he's not beating everyone. That's because I knew somebody's

1009
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: I know, somebody's really close to Tyson. I was like,

1010
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 3: and he's like sober. I'm like, and he's like his guru,

1011
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 3: and I'm like, but isn't that not sober? He goes, hey, man,

1012
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: he's not trying to kill everybody.

1013
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Oh good point, I mean, the lesser of some evils.

1014
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this to talk about what

1015
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: you're puffing on there, Dan. Damn well, I see you're vaping.

1016
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: What does that give you when you've like I don't understand.

1017
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: I definitely smoke cigarettes before. But do you get a

1018
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: relief from isn't just nicotine when you inhale it. It's

1019
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: relieving an anxiety of wanting nicotine that you created.

1020
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, you got it.

1021
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: But that feels good because you're like, you give yourself

1022
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: anxiety that you then get to soothe, and then you

1023
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: get off on the soothing feeling.

1024
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: So I get that nicotine also rides you with some

1025
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: positive like it gives you, it energizes you. It.

1026
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they've said nicotine's good for you.

1027
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: Kind of it's not good for you at all at all,

1028
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: but it does. Like when people first start smoking cigarettes,

1029
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: there's a reason why they get addicted to it. It's

1030
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: because it does actually provide you with some benefits, some

1031
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: clarity of mind. It's it's sort of like caffeine in

1032
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: a way, at least from what the what I've read.

1033
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I understand like creating a problem so that

1034
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: you feel the relief when it goes away. I think

1035
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: that's honestly, what stand up is is like or working,

1036
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: like saying yes to a gig, and then I'm like,

1037
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: I all I know is that I'm going to feel

1038
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: so good when this is over. Like so so I

1039
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: was so accomplished, and so I think it's kind of

1040
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: the same thing. Maybe I should start vaping. When did

1041
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: you start vaping?

1042
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: Dan? When I was on Michelle Show? Did I started

1043
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: doing Joel? So it was twenty eighteen and I was

1044
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 3: on and off cigarettes. I was off cigarettes for about

1045
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: since not safe, so not safe through Superior Donuts and

1046
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: then Michelle Show has started vaping again, and.

1047
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: Then was it just because other people were vaping? It

1048
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: was kind of like that was something you could do

1049
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: in the office. What what what made you do it?

1050
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: I just was very stressed. It was a position that

1051
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: I was. It was like a senior writer position. So

1052
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 3: I was stressed, and I was like, I don't want

1053
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: to go back to cigarettes, right, lesser of I don't

1054
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: want to get drunk, so let's do let's do this.

1055
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: But I also got like by the end of my

1056
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 3: time there too, I was like, then I started doing

1057
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: xanax too, So I was like, I just have like

1058
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: a very addictive fucking personality.

1059
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, as do I do? You do you find that

1060
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: jerking off is part of that addiction? Like it didn't get.

1061
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: Care or I'm on so many inidepressants.

1062
00:46:59,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, oh yeah.

1063
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: Often like a week I think, whoa, yeah, Like it's

1064
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: been a while and you knew me in my single

1065
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: days where I was like always going on dates and

1066
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: trying to like oh yeah, and now it's like now

1067
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: that guy I don't even know who that fucking guy is,

1068
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: you know, because he's a long gone because uh yeah, no,

1069
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: I I am not. Like, Plus my wife is kind

1070
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: of like recovering right now, so it's like I don't know.

1071
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: I just I don't have like really the you know,

1072
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 3: greatly urge to jerk it right now?

1073
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get that, But I think that's that

1074
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: can be something that I rely on sometimes in a

1075
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: similar way of like to.

1076
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: Distract myself once every couple of days.

1077
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think it's fine. I think it's the

1078
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: times when I've read about when people are like hurting

1079
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: themselves because they're doing it so much, and there's like

1080
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: skin is raw, Yes, that's probably yeah, and that get Yeah.

1081
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: There's guys who I mean, there are guys who you

1082
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 3: know can't leave their house because they're jerking off.

1083
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't. I mean watching porn. It's like

1084
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: it's built to suck you in like a casino like it.

1085
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't even I can't believe pop. A lot of

1086
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: people are operating in these porn worlds and I am too,

1087
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: and I have no one to talk about like the

1088
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: things I see and what they're said to me and

1089
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: these ads and like how it's like it's just so

1090
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: fucked up. It's such a weird world that no one

1091
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: talks about.

1092
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: Huh.

1093
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: The reason it will get last because everyone's doing it.

1094
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: They just don't want to say it, you know, they

1095
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 3: don't want yeah, porn, like.

1096
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: The titles of them and what's happening. It's just it

1097
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: feels so specific, but it's like it's such a universal

1098
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: experience that we're all like kind of just only experiencing

1099
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: on our own. And that's why I'm always confused when

1100
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: they're like, are you tired of jerking off alone? And

1101
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: it's like, no, I'm not. This is the only way

1102
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: this could ever Who would ever want to jerk off

1103
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: with someone? I don't feel that way where I'm like,

1104
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: I never am like this. I wish someone would do

1105
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: this with me. It's like I'm glad to be doing

1106
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: it on my own. I don't understand that angle. And

1107
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: I also don't understand the angle of like you can

1108
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: come in thirty seconds, Like I'm like, do people have

1109
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: places to be?

1110
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: Like?

1111
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: I want it to take longer Like that, these marketing

1112
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: angles for porn ads do not resonate with me at all.

1113
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: It's always like the inside of a penis or a

1114
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: vagina too. Every time you like turn it on, it's

1115
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: like it's like, help your penis grow, and then they'll.

1116
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: Wah, yeah, they give you a cross section of a

1117
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: section yes.

1118
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 3: And you're like, oh my god, I don't need a

1119
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 3: fucking lesson, dude. I'm just trying to, you know, jerk off.

1120
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: These two chicks in a hot top. Come on.

1121
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that sounds nice.

1122
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: There's this thing on This is not porn related ad related.

1123
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: I don't have like a bunch of weirdo like porn cues.

1124
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 3: I'm very basic.

1125
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: Good for you. I don't relate what we're gonna say.

1126
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: There's a thing on Instagram where I'm getting these ads

1127
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: for it's a crazy trend getting ads for a phone

1128
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: game where it's like zombies are attacking you and you're

1129
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: shooting the zombies and then like they keep coming and

1130
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 2: coming and coming, and you're shooting the zombies and then

1131
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: you click on the game because it looks like a

1132
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: really good game. Yeah, you click on the game, and

1133
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: then you go to it and all the reviews are like, not,

1134
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: this is not the actual game the advertising, right, so

1135
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: we've all this is this is like talking about like

1136
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 2: things people do that like you don't have to really

1137
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: talk about. But it's like you go to the app

1138
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: store and you're like, I'd play that game, and then

1139
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: all the reviews are like it's just a pay for

1140
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: play type of game where you're building like a a

1141
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: city and you have to defend your city and it's

1142
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: and and then that became so prevalent people clicking on

1143
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: that ad and realizing that it's not the game that

1144
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: they started coming up with new ads that are like,

1145
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: are did you see that ad where you have the

1146
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: zombie game? Well, guess what, we actually built the game.

1147
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh so that's preying on people that have already been

1148
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: duped by this.

1149
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you click on that ad and it's

1150
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: also not the game. It's also just a pay to

1151
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 2: play city builder game. Like, what the fuck is going

1152
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: on here? And now they even have influencers who will

1153
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 2: pop up up in the ad and go like, listen,

1154
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: I saw all those ads where there was that zombie game,

1155
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: and I really wanted to play it, and now I

1156
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: found it. If you see a game and you start

1157
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: playing it and it's not what they advertise in the

1158
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 2: first five seconds, stop playing it, and then you click

1159
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: on that game also not the game. So I don't

1160
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: understand what's going on if it's just the controversy how.

1161
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: They're making money because you're not paying money yet to

1162
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: even see that it's not the.

1163
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: Game, right, because there's still a bunch of dumb assess

1164
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: who want to play the pay to play city Builder

1165
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: game for some reason, which is so stupid whoever is

1166
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: making these games, I just make the Zombie game. The

1167
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: Zombie game is good. It will be like New Angry Birds.

1168
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1169
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: I don't understand what's going on, like why everyone wants

1170
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: the Zombie game and they just refuse to make.

1171
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: It because there's a world of selling stuff around the

1172
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: fact that the game is not being made. So I

1173
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,479
Speaker 1: think it's it's better that they don't make it.

1174
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: It's wild. I mean the way they keep then they

1175
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: keep making new ads every day where it's a different round.

1176
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: It's like it's like they're basically building the game in ads,

1177
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: because it's like now there's a new version of the

1178
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: Zombie game. And then multiple different companies have made multiple

1179
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: different versions of the Zombie game as advertisements, and you

1180
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: click on it and it's not the fucking came you play.

1181
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: Are you how much time are you playing games on

1182
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: your phone? Because I'd see guys on planes and guys

1183
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: be playing lots of games on phones and they look

1184
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: fun and they're I'm like, wow, the graphics on that

1185
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: are incredible. Should I be doing this? Are there ones

1186
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 1: that are really fun?

1187
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 3: No?

1188
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: No, I play zero games on my phone because every

1189
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: game on your phone nowadays is pay to play, So

1190
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: basically you start playing it, it's kind of fun, and

1191
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: then it's like, well, if you want to get a

1192
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: bunch of corn, you're gonna have to pay three ninety nine.

1193
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, if you don't pay three ninety

1194
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: nine for the corn, a bunch of people who've paid

1195
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: fifty dollars are gonna kill you.

1196
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, I like playing games. I like I'm now

1197
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm doing the mini Crossword for New York Times. Well,

1198
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: I like that because you can compete with people. Do

1199
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: you know New York Times games?

1200
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: Second?

1201
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a leader board only on the mini crossword

1202
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: where you can do it. Does your time do you? Yeah?

1203
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: Well, you know during f Boy Island, we were really

1204
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: deep into the crossword you oh my god.

1205
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. We were trying to beat each other on Mondays

1206
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: Tuesdays and sometimes I.

1207
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: Have to say it was it was pretty evenly matched,

1208
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: It really was.

1209
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: That was a good time.

1210
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1211
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: Final thought, Dan, what are you doing on your phone

1212
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: most of the time? Like, what are you just doom?

1213
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 1: Scrolling Reddit, Instagram, Yeah, killing me? What are you looking

1214
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: at on Instagram? Just as person's post and then you

1215
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: read the comments and then like what are you doing

1216
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: on there?

1217
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: A lot of dog stuff, A lot of dog stuff.

1218
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I'm not going to pretend that my

1219
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: Instagram Discovery doesn't have a few influencers, butts it definitely does.

1220
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 3: There's some wrestling stuff, asserted politics stuff from both sides.

1221
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 3: Somehow they both end up on me.

1222
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: It's fair weird balanced, but it's like the way it

1223
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: should be. Like that's weird.

1224
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: I like this new trend that Instagram was saying they're

1225
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: not going to put any politics, They're not going to

1226
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: promote any political things anymore, and then they kind of

1227
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: stopped doing that. But no, like if you I made

1228
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: like a cartoon that was making fun of Congress and

1229
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: like it. It was like suppressed because it was when

1230
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: they were when they were doing this this new thing

1231
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: where they're not they're not allowing political content to be

1232
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: distributed amongst the algorithm, which I think is a good idea.

1233
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think so too. I recently took the

1234
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: no more suggested posts for thirty days. It doesn't even

1235
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: let you do it permanently. It lets you take a

1236
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: month off from them giving you other ship. And I

1237
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: think I'm reaching the end of the month. But it

1238
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: was a good month off of just only seeing what

1239
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: I need, what like, what I.

1240
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: Who I friends like the designed to be there's there's

1241
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 2: too many you follow too many people.

1242
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: I got a package in the meal from j LO

1243
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: the other day, WHOA Okay, I like had a bunch

1244
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: of like actually killing you. I got a bunch of

1245
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of packages that were like kind

1246
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: of stef and I was like, I don't it stresses

1247
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: me out? And how to get package? It used to

1248
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: be so much fun, but now it's like I have

1249
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: to post about this person and I have to start

1250
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: using these products so I can talk about them, and

1251
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: it's like it just piles up, and it's just I

1252
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: don't have anywhere to put it because I live in

1253
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: an apartment. So anyway, finally, I'm like going through these

1254
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: boxes and I'm like, JMO beauty, when did I did

1255
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: someone send me this as a prank or something? Because

1256
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't order it, and not that I wouldn't

1257
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: want it, but I opened It's very heavy and it's

1258
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: just a whole assortment of her skincare line. And there

1259
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: is a card that says, I saw your video. It's

1260
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: easy to go along with the crowd. Thanks for not

1261
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: doing that. It's I'm paraphrasing the tic. There was a

1262
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: TikTok of me talking about her while I was on

1263
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: the Zach Saying podcast, and I was talking about how

1264
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: I'd really changed my opinion about her because I saw

1265
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: her documentary and I just made me soften on her

1266
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: and realize, like she's actually pretty cool and talented and

1267
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: just you know, is just a girl that wants to

1268
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: put her art out there and be seen. And we're

1269
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: all just mental because that's it was taken out of

1270
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: context and she's and yes she's a movie star, but

1271
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: like generally we're all just like jealous if we're shitting

1272
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: on her. And I think that that's probably what was

1273
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: going on in my perspective at least, And so I

1274
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: said that we clipped it for my TikTok because people

1275
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: were already kind of clipping it, and so we clipped

1276
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: it and then it kind of took off.

1277
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: And.

1278
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: Then she saw it and she sent me the stuff

1279
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: and then so at the very end of the message, though,

1280
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: she said, and here's here's like my skincare lone. She

1281
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: goes for something about like so you can take care

1282
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: of your feet, and I'm like, is there foot cream

1283
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: in this? Like I was very confused. I'm like, oh,

1284
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: maybe she's heard like me talk about my bunions and

1285
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: she's kind of like putting in a dig in there.

1286
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: And then this is like days ago that this happened.

1287
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: And I literally cried when I got it because it

1288
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: was just so sweet, and I feel bad for anything

1289
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: I've ever said judgmental about her, because she went out

1290
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: of her way to like, at least she did. She

1291
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: didn't type it up herself, but she definitely like maybe

1292
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: she did type it up and send an email so

1293
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: they typed it up, but she definitely it was her voice.

1294
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: I can just tell when someone is like it's them.

1295
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: And then the ps about my using this the stuff

1296
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: she sent for my feet, I was like, what is

1297
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: this about? And this girl got like she'd I realized

1298
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: last night in bed, I seized up because I suddenly

1299
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: realized what she was saying. I used to do a

1300
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: joke about that she must have heard or maybe it

1301
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: was part of it. I don't even remember how she

1302
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: came across this, but I used to do a joke

1303
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: about how she's so pretty that like you shouldn't trust

1304
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: buying your skincare from her because she'd probably she probably

1305
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: wants you to look ugly because she she needs you

1306
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: to stay ugly so she can stay pretty. That was

1307
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: like my whole premise. And I'm like, she's gonna mean

1308
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: girls you and she's gonna put foot cream in that stuff.

1309
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: She wouldn't put that on her face, like she's tricking you.

1310
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: She doesn't use that. And so she did my joke

1311
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: back to me and kind of like did a little

1312
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: dig and I fucking respect it and I love it,

1313
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, use this on your feet, Like

1314
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: but she also gave me this nice gift. So it

1315
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: was just like she's just cool.

1316
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: And that joke ever make it on you?

1317
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where she could have seen it. I'm

1318
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: sure I've said it on some couch. I'm sure I

1319
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: don't know where. I maybe even said it in that interview.

1320
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: It may have even been in that clip that weeklip.

1321
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: Here you.

1322
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 3: Were talking about your feet.

1323
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm not safe, but no, no, this is definitely about

1324
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: because I was like, Jalo has a line of skincare,

1325
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, don't use it because there's no way

1326
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: she's gonna tell us her secrets. Like she's got good

1327
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: secrets and she doesn't want you to know them, So

1328
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: don't buy her skincare line because it's probably foot cream.

1329
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: Like she's Mean Girls girls in US, and I stole

1330
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: the foot cream line from Mean Girls Like I didn't.

1331
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to rip off that joke. I'm just

1332
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: like that's what they do in Mean Girls and and

1333
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: she did it back to me and it totally went

1334
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: over my head. This is what happens when you're a comedian.

1335
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: You think other people aren't funny, or like you just

1336
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: don't expect them to be funny, so you just don't.

1337
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: You're just like, why would she say okay? And and

1338
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: then last time in bed and I'm like oh, and

1339
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm like she got me good, and it just felt it.

1340
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: It made me a little nauseous because I'm like, oh no,

1341
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: she heard me like make fun of her and do

1342
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: that joke. I just had to like remember people see stuff.

1343
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: And I just this weekend and I've just had like

1344
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: uh not because of that, but I I did an

1345
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: interview last week that actually she was like kind of

1346
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: called out some of my stuff and she's like, it

1347
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: just seems like, you know, cruel and tasteless for no reason.

1348
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: That's what an interviewer said to me. And I was like,

1349
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: what was this about roasts?

1350
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: You know?

1351
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: And I get that they are cruel a tasteless.

1352
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: No, it's to be king, but that's the time when

1353
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: you're allowed to do it, and you're doing it in

1354
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: joke form, and it's what you expect bad.

1355
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: And then I was like examined my set and I'm like, oh,

1356
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: I think I am sometimes just mean for the sake

1357
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: of being mean. And I just like, but it's kind

1358
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: of impossible to write comedy and be nice.

1359
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: That's a fucking roast. That's the whole point of roasts.

1360
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: Well, she got me. She made me second guess everything,

1361
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh man, I don't want to

1362
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:54,959
Speaker 1: put out like cynicism and like like, uh, just this nasty.

1363
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: Kind of so stupid. It's like going to the Olympics

1364
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: and being like you're running a little fast. This is

1365
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,959
Speaker 2: a little fas. This is much faster than I would

1366
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: see in the show.

1367
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: I know, that's what I defended it as, like that

1368
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: was the job I was hired for. I don't know

1369
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: what to tell you, Like, that's kind of what I

1370
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: had to do, and it's maybe weird that I can

1371
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: do it with such ease or that I enjoy doing it.

1372
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was this week and looking at my

1373
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: act and I was like, well, that's me.

1374
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm so mad at that person. I'm so mad.

1375
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: Okay, she she meant well by it, and she is

1376
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: a fan, but she it did make me question myself

1377
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I just don't, you know, I

1378
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: don't know where to write from if I'm not like

1379
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: pointing out things that I'm kind of like pissed about

1380
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: and then I kind of passive aggressively make fun of

1381
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: them while also trying to point out the hypocrisy. Then

1382
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: I get kind of dirty, as dirty as they do.

1383
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 2: Kind of That's why you're always punching up, you know.

1384
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: That's why it's bad to punch down, because if you're

1385
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: just being mean to some underling, then that's that's just

1386
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: there's no point to that. But if you punch up,

1387
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 2: then you're allowed to because you're the one that's suffering.

1388
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: And so like in your last special, you're annoyed or

1389
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: you're mad at you know, your own mortality and your

1390
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: own like ability to have children and stuff like that,

1391
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: and those are things that you can be as mean

1392
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: as you want about because it's because you're you're punching

1393
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: up in that situation. If you were going out there

1394
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 2: and you were like, if you were doing a roast, okay,

1395
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: you're doing Remember when you did a roast, you roasted

1396
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: Tom Brady. You're roasting NFL players and other comedians who

1397
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 2: are on the same level as you. If you went

1398
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: out on the roast and you were like, the guy

1399
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: that works the post office is a fat piece of shit.

1400
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: Why he's ugly and smells like shit, that would be mean.

1401
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: But in this instance, you're everyone up there agreed to

1402
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: be roasted and they're on the same level or above you.

1403
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: Okay, well, now I'm starting to think about my stand

1404
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,479
Speaker 1: up and like, sometimes I think I throw people under

1405
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: the bus, or like I kind of do I feel

1406
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: like if I I think in my head I justify

1407
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, I make fun of myself a lot,

1408
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: so I can just then I can make fun of

1409
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: other people that aren't here, and maybe subjects, like even

1410
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: the JLO thing, like I'm glad I didn't include all

1411
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: that bit in my special because I was kind of thought, oh,

1412
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: she's gonna see this and it is not very nice

1413
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: and it's coming from a place of jealousy, like.

1414
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 2: Changing your mind, but you're also like changing your mind

1415
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: while working out that bit, and you're like, I don't

1416
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: even know. I like, I think why am I saying?

1417
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I think that's why I'm saying is

1418
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: because I like her so much that I'm like jealous.

1419
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: It's just interesting to find your motivations. Like I was

1420
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: talking to this interviewer about how I used to, Oh,

1421
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: this is what I wish I would have said to

1422
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: work because we were talking about you know, when I

1423
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: would go on stage and I would I would try

1424
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: to like hurt a guy. If a guy had hurt me,

1425
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: I would like write a bit about him in a

1426
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: way that would like pray on some kind of insecurity

1427
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: that he had, and I wouldn't use his name, but

1428
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: like if he ever heard it, he would know it

1429
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: is about him because I wanted to hurt him as

1430
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: much as he hurt me, right like because classic that's

1431
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: but that sometimes I think, oh, I'm just trying to

1432
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: get revenge. I just yes, but I'm just trying. I think.

1433
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, no, I want I just want to

1434
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: be mean because he was mean to me. But the

1435
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: truth in that is that I he didn't I felt

1436
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: he didn't understand how devastated I was by what he

1437
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: did to me, even though it wasn't his fault. He

1438
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: just changed his mind and didn't like me anymore. And

1439
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: I really can't be mad at that. So instead, I'm

1440
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: going to try to get him to feel the sadness

1441
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: I felt, and then maybe he'll feel bad about what

1442
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: he did. Like, I think that's the cutest route.

1443
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 2: Idea misguided. Yeah, the secret I was just.

1444
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: Like wanting my feelings validated. Like if he were to

1445
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: be like, I know this is so hard and I

1446
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: know this sucks, but instead he was just like, this

1447
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: is just how I feel, and this is how it's

1448
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: going to be.

1449
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1450
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: That was like, Oh, you don't get what you're doing

1451
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: to me, but you will. I will make you feel

1452
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: just as sad, and I'll do it in a different way.

1453
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: That's like poking fun at something how you look or family. Yeah,

1454
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: I did, I really hurt this person for a while, yeah,

1455
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 1: and made them uncomfortable and made them loathe me, and

1456
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: and they should have because I was just like, it

1457
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: was so misguided and it was all just like grow.

1458
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: I think everyone does it. When you're rejected. You just

1459
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: have to come up with a story why they are

1460
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: evil and why, because the story just can't be that

1461
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: they didn't like you, they are attracted to you.

1462
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 3: I was like that, I think in my twenties. But

1463
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: then like I started, I was like, then I started

1464
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 3: seeing the girl's points. I'm like, all right, yeah, you know,

1465
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 3: like I get it all right.

1466
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't think I was getting any feedback, not that

1467
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: I would have asked for it, but I think guys

1468
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: would just start to slow fade, and so I wouldn't

1469
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: know why that's the world, and it would just seem

1470
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: like and I'm glad I didn't. I don't want to

1471
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: know why. I can only guess the many reasons they

1472
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: had to not want to be my boyfriend. But I

1473
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: think back then I was just so hurt that I

1474
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: was like, if this guy's not gay or like, that's

1475
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: my one thing. I could say, he's maybe gay, that's

1476
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: why he doesn't like me, And then I don't take

1477
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: it personally, or or he's so scared. He's so scared

1478
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: to be loved like that was another thing engaged a

1479
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: week later.

1480
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 3: That'll make him more attractive to women. Yeah, and they're like,

1481
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:01,959
Speaker 3: I'm gonna approve you, I'm.

1482
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 2: Gonna fix him.

1483
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well well really, anyone who would ever try to

1484
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: like love someone who doesn't want to be loved is

1485
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: really thinks they're unlovable themselves, as we know. So Dan,

1486
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: where can we find her special?

1487
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm on Yeah, you can just check out Dance Fatty Dance.

1488
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 3: It's free on YouTube. I am on Instagram to follow there,

1489
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 3: and you can get like all my dates on my website.

1490
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: Dan Saint Germain is one of the best comics out there.

1491
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: He's so funny. Go see him live. You'll see him

1492
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: in like an intimate, uh not completely finished comedy club.

1493
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well do in six months, guys.

1494
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 3: Whenever you see me, there'll be plenty of room, so

1495
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: don't worry.

1496
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: But definitely get tickets to go see him if he's

1497
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: coming near you, Like it's it's a it's different than comedy.

1498
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: Go to comedy clubs and see these girl He's been

1499
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: around forever. He's doing it at the level of the

1500
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: people you go see in theaters. It's just things haven't

1501
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: worked out for him yet. But they you deserve that level.

1502
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 1: You deserve the No.

1503
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 3: I have a great I mean I have a great resume,

1504
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 3: you know you. I told everybody all the ship that

1505
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 3: I've done. They'd be like, oh, wow, that's amazing. You

1506
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 3: must be rich.

1507
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: And I'm like, nope, going to see this guy and

1508
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: how Dan is a bargain basement community. But it's just

1509
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: we don't know why. It's just an anomaly that you

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Speaker 1: aren't bigger. But the thing is, you will be and

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Speaker 1: you are so fucking funny. And I always tell you

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Speaker 1: that I wish I had your brain, and sometimes I

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Speaker 1: use your brain to help me with things.

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Speaker 2: Because Germain is comedians though that's the no dancing. Germaine

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01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: is three count the three viral clips away from being

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Speaker 2: a theater act. Just kind of get those three.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely had two this year. Come on, I gotta get

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Speaker 3: the next.

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Speaker 2: Well's no, it needs to be over a million, needs

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Speaker 2: to be over two million.

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Speaker 3: I mean both are like over a million, you know.

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Speaker 2: But okay, okay, well maybe.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I wasn't getting nicky viral until that moment.

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Speaker 1: But it's and it's hard to sustain it. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's been a slow build the whole fucking time. It's

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Speaker 1: it seems like I've had so many successes and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've had a pretty good career for a while. But

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of factors that contribute to that. My age,

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 1: my gender, the amount of other people doing it of

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Speaker 1: my age and gender place things that there's I've been

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Speaker 1: very lucky and you just haven't been. Dan, You've actually

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Speaker 1: been so lucky. We're so we're so lucky. And go

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Speaker 1: watch Dance Special. He's fucking incredible. Get on the ground

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Speaker 1: floor now you'll u because he is. He's one of

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Speaker 1: the best. Dan Saint Germains Dance Fatty Dance on YouTube

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Speaker 1: were free. Brian Franzie, thanks for being here. We will

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Speaker 1: see you later this week for another episode of this podcast,

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Speaker 1: Don't be good Bye.