1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: This is the Bluemberg DAYBAQ podcast, available every morning on Apple, 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Friday, the twenty first 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: of March in London and Caroline Hepka. 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: And I'm Stephen Carroll coming up today. London's Heathrow Airport 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 3: is shut for at least a full day due to 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: a power outage, causing massive travel disruption. 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: EU leaders failed to agree on a new package of 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: support for Ukraine, despite alarm at being cut out of 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: negotiations between the US and Russia. 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: Plus why a shortage of gunpowder could be a major 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: obstacle in Europe's plans to ramp up defense capabilities. 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 2: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: London's Heathrow Airport is closed to all flights after a 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: fire at a nearby power substation, disrupting travel plans for 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of people. The London Firebrigade says the 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: blaze broke out in the station in West London, disrupting 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: electricity supply to the airport. Bloomberg's Danny Lee says the 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 3: fire will cause days of disruption at a minimum they 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: will be. 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 4: Having to pick up the pieces in the coming days 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: and tenty week or so because of the scale of 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 4: the disruption, particularly it's going to impact the likes of 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 4: British Airways in Vegean Atlantic, the two biggest operators out 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 4: of heath for airport. But just to give you a 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 4: scale of one, four hundred flights a day operate A 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: flight takes off a land every forty five seconds, and 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: two hundred thousand passengers a day would normally pass through 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: Heath Throw So this gives a scale of the disruption 30 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: that would last at least into the weekend. 31 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: This rate our transfer reporter Danny Lee there the local 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: power company says some sixteen thousand homes in West London 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: are also without electricity due to the fire. 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: European Union leaders failed to agree on a five billion 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: euro package to buy ammunition for Ukraine and struggle to 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: agree on a strategy on peace talks and a summit 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: in Brussels. Countries argued over the technical details and ask 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: why they hadn't been a to appoint an envoid to 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: make the EU's case in the US Russia talks. Germany's 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: outgoing Chancellor Arnough Schultz says the Bloc's commitment to Ukraine 41 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: is not in question. 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 5: We, of course understandably are once again focused on the 43 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 5: situation in Ukraine. Russia's war of aggression continues with a 44 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 5: great degree of brutality, and it is therefore very important 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 5: that during our discussions with President of Lensky today we 46 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 5: made it very clear that the European Union, and I 47 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 5: want to be very clear, twenty six of the member 48 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: states have made it clear that they're on the side 49 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 5: of Ukraine, that Ukraine can continue to rely on them, 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 5: that we will not abandon them. 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: Talasen Visson Schultz. We're speaking as EU leaders have become 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: increasingly alarmed about being kept out of US President Donald 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: Trump's dealings with the Kremlin. The European Union and its 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: members have sent fifty billion euros in military support to 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: Ukraine since the full scale invasion began in February twenty 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: twenty two. 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is invoking emergency powers to boost production of 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: critical minerals and potentially coal in the United States. An 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: executive order signed by the US President outlines plans to 60 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 3: provide financing and permits to support domestic mining and processing. 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: The move was one of the latest raft of orders 62 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: signed by Trump, which also includes plans to dismantle the 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 3: US Department of Education. In a few moments, I will 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: sign an executive order to begin eliminating the Federal Department 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: of Education once and for all. The US President also 66 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: denied the New York Times report that Elon Musk was 67 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: to be briefed on US military plans for any potential 68 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: war with China, saying it was completely untrue. 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: Turkey's central Bank has raised a key interest rate in 70 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: a shock meeting to try and stabilize the slump in 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: the lira. The central Bank hiked its overnight lending rate 72 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: by two percentage points to forty six percent. The country's 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: currency and eco markets have seen sharp sell offs after 74 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: the arrest of leading opposition politician Istanbul's mayor, Echem Immomolu, 75 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: and while Capital Partners Fixed income co head Zana Rizzik 76 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: says that the central bank's move is a positive surprise. 77 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 6: Now we're back to familiar territory where the politics step 78 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 6: in when they shouldn't and they disrupt everything. 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: But the very. 80 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 6: Surprising and the very positive thing that happened this time 81 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 6: is the sudden move of the Central Bank. 82 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 2: Of the cbrt Rizzik adds, the question now is whether 83 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: local investors rush to dollars. Turkish authorities say that they 84 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: detained thirty seven people over social media posts criticizing the 85 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: arrest of the mayor Vistan Bull. 86 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: Bank of England governor Andrew Bailer's policymakers to tread carefully 87 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: in the face of a turbulent global backdrop. Policymakers voted 88 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: eight to one to keep the base rate four point 89 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 3: five percent. Bailey says they're still waiting to see what 90 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: does happen on tariffs. 91 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 7: We are certainly know in a world of even greater uncertainty. 92 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 7: I'm always conscious that with central banks we're always accused 93 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 7: of saying the world's uncertain, but it really is uncertain. 94 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 7: The inflation impact of tariff when you're sort of in 95 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 7: a sense on the receiving it to them, is quite ambiguous, 96 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 7: as we've said before, and also again there are things 97 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 7: that could push in elements of the story that could 98 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 7: push it up, in the allowments that could push it down. 99 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: Bailey is the latest central bank governor to adopt a 100 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: more wary tone due to US President Donald Trump's tariff threats. 101 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: Tenure guilts rose, guilty, yields rose, and traders paired bets 102 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: on future cuts after the decision. 103 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: Bloomberg understands that UBS is considering relocating its headquarters if 104 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: Switzerland requires the bank to hold an extra twenty five 105 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: billion dollars of capital. So also say executives believe increasing 106 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: the banks capital ratio to fourteen percent in a worst 107 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: case scenario would make the lender uncompetitive. SISS authorities want 108 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: the country's largest bank to fully deduct the value of 109 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: its foreign subsidiaries from the capital of its parent, with 110 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: an eye on avoiding a repeat of the credit sweet collapse. 111 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: UBS is stepping up lobbying efforts before a draft of 112 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: the proposal is used to go before lawmakers in May, 113 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: although any change likely wouldn't be implemented until twenty twenty eight. 114 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 3: The UK's top earners are gearing up to spend more. 115 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 3: That's according to the latest survey from market research firm GfK. 116 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 8: Bloomberg's Tea what adabaio has. 117 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 9: More households with incomes of fifty pounds in above are 118 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 9: set to unleash their savings on luxury goods, cars, or tech. 119 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 9: According to a recent report. The data suggests lower interest 120 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 9: rates and boosting demands for big ticket items at the 121 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 9: highest rate since the run up to the festive season 122 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 9: last November. The findings could represent an early sign of 123 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 9: a brightening mood amongst UK consumers as savings become less 124 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 9: lucrative thanks to falling rates. A resilient labor market is 125 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 9: also helping the consumer recovery. Wages are still growing faster 126 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 9: than inflation, as Prime Minister Kirs Starmer has frequently emphasized 127 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 9: in recent weeks, but outside of the top income bracket 128 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 9: there's less enthusiasm for extravagant purchases. GfK's major purchasing index 129 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 9: across the income spectrum remained flat In London, t We're 130 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 9: added Bayo Bloomberg Radio. 131 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: Those are our top stories on the markets risk off 132 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: In Asia this morning, we have declines led by the 133 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: Hangsing index, which is down two point three percent, the 134 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: Tech index dropping three and a half percent. Mainland Chinese 135 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: stocks also under pressure. The S and P five hundred 136 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: on Thursday ended a volatile session in the red. Stock 137 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: futures are also negative. The White House Press secretary warning 138 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: that big tariffs are coming on the second of April. Meanwhile, 139 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: we had FedEx Nike Micron reporting after the bell. FedEx 140 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: stock fell five point six percent after a profit warning. 141 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: Nike's share down five point three percent on a glut 142 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: of inventory. European stocks also underperformed yesterday. Eurostocks fifty futures 143 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: are now down half of one percent. The dollar this 144 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: morning is strengthening and treasuries are trading steady this morning. 145 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: In a moment, we'll bring you more on the disruption 146 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: at London's Heathrow Airport, plus how a shortage of gunpowder 147 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: could hamper Europe's defense ramp up. I just wanted to 148 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: mention the story that caught our eye this morning. Our 149 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: opinion columnist Matthew Brooker has been writing about something which 150 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: is a subject of conversation here in London and according 151 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: to some, has meant London becoming the mobile phone theft 152 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: capital of Europe. Now, police data shows there are over 153 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 3: seventy thousand recorded testament individuals in the past year, up 154 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: twenty five percent from the preceding twelve months. Now there 155 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: are questions around one of that data and how exactly 156 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: one becomes the European capital in this so I'm not 157 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: sure that title is necessarily well earned or well founded. 158 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 8: But look, this is a problem in London. I've seen 159 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 8: it happen many times. 160 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: It nearly happened to me once and only by pure 161 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: chance that didn't They didn't get my phone. But it 162 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: is something you know, usually bikes are In my case, 163 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 3: somebody on a moped came up right behind you, snatches 164 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: your phone out of your hand while you're not paying attention, 165 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 3: and after they. 166 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: Go yeah, look I can. It's very frustrating and there 167 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 2: has been a huge amount of discussion about this. You know, 168 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: lots of domestic media here is actually try to trace 169 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: the phones, you know, wherever they go, because they often 170 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: actually are taken straight out of the UK somewhere else. 171 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: On the other hand, I'm a bit bit cynical because 172 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: of course, if you're walking around with potentially hundreds of 173 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: pounds worth of kit just in your hand, you know 174 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: that that is a pretty dangerous thing, isn't it. 175 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: There's been a recent police and crackdown on this which 176 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: has shown to yield results. That's one of the causes 177 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: for optimism that Matthew Broker points to in this as well. 178 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: He also says make sure you're using your phone security 179 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: features good advice and as you say, Caroline, paying attention 180 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 3: helps to Yeah. 181 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Okay, let's bring you to our top story now. 182 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: So the closure of Heatho Airport for at least a 183 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: whole day today due to a fire at a nearby 184 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: power substation, our transport reported. Danny Lee joins us now 185 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: for more. Danny, good morning. What do we know then 186 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: about what's caused Heathrow to shut down? 187 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: Good morning, Caroline Stephens. So we have a presidented shut 188 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 4: down due to a substation electrical fire that has taken 189 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 4: place just north of hethro Airport, so complete blackout for 190 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 4: Heathrow and the neighboring area and it's causing huge amounts 191 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 4: of disruption as Heathra Airport hadn't has not even opened 192 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: yet by the time the incident took place, and the 193 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 4: effectively Heathro Airport declaring an emergency. So what we now 194 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 4: have is typically on a normal day, around two hundred 195 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: thousand passions coming in and out of Heathrow Airport and 196 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 4: four hundred flights a day, So any flights that were 197 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 4: in the inbound Heathrow whatever diverting to nearby airports in 198 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: out of the UK or in Europe or even turning 199 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: back from where they were either flying across a Transatlantic 200 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 4: or beyond. So complete chaos that for a Friday going 201 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: into the weekend, that's going to last days in many 202 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: ways because planes and passengers and aircrew are all out 203 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 4: of well, planes and aircrew are all out of position. 204 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 4: So it's a huge headache for the airlines in the 205 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: airport to try and unpick in the days to come. 206 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: Indeed, and Danny, I mean you've explained there some of 207 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: the disruption and how this is going to have a 208 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: lasting effect even if Heathrow is able to reopen tomorrow. 209 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: I'm just looking at Version Atlantic saying that all Heathrow 210 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: flights are canceled until midday today based on previous disruption. 211 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: How long does it normally take for airlines to get 212 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: things back to normal. 213 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: Frankly, it can take up to a week even on 214 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: a good day. Frankly, the challenge for airlines is, you know, 215 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: having to reset operations and trying to figure out when 216 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 4: do they get the aircraft in the right place at 217 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 4: the right time, and that takes a few days. And 218 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: so for passengers who are being warned not to even 219 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 4: come to heatwhare airport until it has known that power 220 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: will resume, So there is going to be a lot 221 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 4: of a lot of stress for travelers who won't be 222 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: able to get out on to holidays or for business trips. 223 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 4: And so you know, until the airlines and the airport 224 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 4: know that the power will be back and resume hopefully 225 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: by midnight tomorrow, then flight situation and the operations is 226 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: a bit of an unknown. 227 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, guitar Is saying that there's been a hit to 228 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: their operations, India saying it's operations into the capsule also affected. 229 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: And then a statement from London's Gatwick of course, one 230 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: of the other major airports around London, saying that they 231 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: are and have accepted seven diverted flights and that they're 232 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: aware of the situation that he throw airport and they 233 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: are supporting by accepting diverted flights as required. How does 234 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: this compare them to any previous disruption that he has seen, 235 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: As you say, he throws quite a lynchpin globally. 236 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: Lynchpin for not just global travel, clearly for the UK, 237 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: the amount it supports for the UK economy on a 238 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: daily basis, and look, we've not seen so much disruption 239 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: clearly airlines from time to time that had Heath Throw 240 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 4: and British Airways terminal go down because of the technical 241 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 4: issues and baggage failures. Over recent memory, now I can 242 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: still remember back in twenty I think twenty ten when 243 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: we had Hethrow shot for a few days because of 244 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,239 Speaker 4: or you know, flights were disrupted because of a volcanic 245 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 4: ash eruption. So you know, there is a headache there 246 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: and it doesn't happen too often on such a widespread 247 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: scale for some of like Keithrow Airport to be closed 248 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: all day. 249 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 8: Okay, I transfer Reporter Danny Lee, thank you. 250 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: Now let's talk about Europe as the continent prepares for 251 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: a massive boost in defense spending. Munitions makers face many 252 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: hurdles to ramping up production of artillery shells, missiles and bullets, 253 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: not least the limits on supplies of gunpowder TNT and 254 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: other explosives and propellants. It's the subject of one of 255 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: our deep dive stories this morning. Joining us is our 256 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: Bloomberger porter Laura Alvis in Frankfurt. Laura, thank you for 257 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: being with us. What is the supply situation for propellants 258 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: and explosives look like? Given that the supply chain in 259 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: Europe has been under intense scrutiny since the start of 260 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: the war in Ukraine three years ago. 261 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: Good morning, Yeah, So when it comes to propellants, so 262 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: gunpowder the part of the ammunition that drives it forward, 263 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: and also when it comes to explosives, which is responsible 264 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: for the detonation these parts, they've been responsible for many 265 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: of the major bottlenecks that we currently see with European 266 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: ammunitions production. And the EU already identified this back in 267 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and they established a program which is 268 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: called ASAP, a Defense Industry funding program, and this program 269 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: has set itself some targets with regard to the amount 270 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: of propellants, in the amount of explosives that should be produced. 271 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: But what needs to be remembered is that right now 272 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about a very different level of spending here, 273 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: right both from the European Union and from nation states 274 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: that have really rammed up spending. So these targets no 275 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: longer really align with those goals. And then when we 276 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: look at this from the company side as well, we 277 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: can really see that Europe needs to ramp up massively. 278 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: So Ryn Matthai, for example, the German defense contractor, it's 279 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: the biggest producer of propellants in Europe, and they have 280 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: already said that if we take new spending into account, 281 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: they will probably have to double their production of gunpowder 282 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: throughout the coming years to be able to get to 283 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: a point where they can produce up to twenty thousand 284 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: metric tons of gunpowder annually. 285 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: Brizilaura, what are the big obstacles to that source of rompope? 286 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: So the obstacles, on the one hand are the materials 287 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: and components that go into explosives and propellants. Examples that 288 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: can be named are, for example, cotton or nitric acid. 289 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: And for the longest time it simply wasn't the priority 290 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: for the European Union where these were sourced from. So 291 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: many of them come from places where it's cheap to 292 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: produce them, such as for example China, where of course 293 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: nowadays certain geostrategic issue that figure into this and issues 294 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: of sovereignty, so this is one of the main issues 295 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: that needs to be considered. 296 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 297 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 298 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apples, 299 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 300 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: You can also listen live each morning on London DAB Radio, 301 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 302 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station, is also available on your 303 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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