1 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back another edition the Thursday morning, 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: January twenty first, The Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: one edition of the Lake Kick Extra Podcast. I'm Josh Pate, 4 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: Waaldwall Q and A this morning, and you might as 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: well queue up the Sarah McLaughlin music in Knoxville, Tennessee, 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: because I am getting inundated with ultra sad, ultra depressed, 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: ultra reaching out for any kind of comfort and positivity 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: whatsoever Tennessee emails. And I can't necessarily tell you that 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of it to dish out this morning, 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: but I guess at least the gravity of the situation 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: is starting to come into effect. It's one of those 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: deals where, weirdly, after something bad happens, you maybe feel 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: a little more comfort because at least you know what 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: the bad is instead of having to deal with the unknown. Now, 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: the part be there is maybe you're not there yet 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: as a Tennessee fan, because maybe there's still a lot 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: of unknown left to happen. What in the world will 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: be talking about? Well, I'll get into it in just 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: a second. So we've got a whole lot to go over. 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: Remember the way to get in touch, and the way 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: to submit your questions is email me Josh pat seven 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: zero six at gmail dot com, or you can follow 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: me on Twitter and DM me there at Late Kickjosh. 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Some of you try on Instagram. I don't check my 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: Instagram inbox quite as frequently as those other locations, so 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: I always encourage you to follow me on Instagram. Hi, 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I may even take it a little 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: more seriously if we add some followers over there. So 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: it's Late Kickjosh on Instagram too. And just a little 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: quick production notice. We dive in. As I suspected from 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: the last podcast, I always get feedback on the podcast, 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: and from the last one we did, I probably got 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: about ten to one positive ratio to the storm chasing 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: story relative to any other college football topic or question 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: we hit on that morning. So what did we learn there? Well, 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: what we learned is Number one, a properly told weather 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: story appeals to everyone because everyone understands weather, everyone's impacted weather. 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: Number Two, having said that, have no fear. This is 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: never going to be one of those podcaster shows where 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: slowly I started it off under the pretenses of college football, 41 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: but then it evolves into me talking about random, nuanced 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: issues that I really care about more. No, won't be that, 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: it'll always be college football. It's just when we get 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: to the off season, we got a little time to 45 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: sprinkle in some added flavor. So it's a Q and 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: a I take it where you guys want to go. 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: A number of you hear me hint around and kind 48 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: of make little side comments, sometimes about storm chasing. So 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: occasionally you asked me about it. Hey, believe it or not. 50 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: There are other things, maybe even more dangerous in my 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: life you could ask me about. I will offer no 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: further hints. You'll just have to guess correctly. All right, 53 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: let's get into the podcast this am. I've got a 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: palpable hue of misery out of Tennessee. So a lot 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: of people are just reaching out and they're saying, please help, 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: anything you can do help. So let me read you 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: an example of the kinds of questions I'm getting from 58 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee fans over the past twenty four to forty eight hours. 59 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: I'll kind of reset at the scene. If you don't 60 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: really know what I'm talking about. A lot has happened 61 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: even since the last time that you and I spoke. 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: So Andrew, for example, hits me up and he says, 63 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: what are the odds Tennessee is even able to trot 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: a team out onto the field next year as the 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: number of players into the transfer portal continues to grow. 66 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: That's very well put. Here's another example. Right before I 67 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: started recording, Uh, who is this? This was Seth, longtime 68 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: friend of the program. He said, as a Tennessee fan, 69 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: is there anything you can do to talk me off 70 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: the ledge? I tried very hard not to be reactive 71 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: and not to be emotional, but this is looking really 72 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: rough and tough days ahead look to be the norm. 73 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: This is a dark cloud that stretches pretty far. Are 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: there any sunbeams peeking through that you can see? What 75 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: are we talking about here? Well, I'll tell you what happened. 76 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: If you were out to lunch yesterday. It was Inauguration day. 77 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: I know a lot of attention was fragmented and scattered 78 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: all over the place. Here's what was happening at Tennessee 79 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: over the span of like an hour, and it was 80 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: terribly time. Because I was out driving, I didn't really 81 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: have time to record anything or even so much as 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: tweet very much about it. That's why you can hear 83 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: me pulling this notebook pad out because I'm gonna use 84 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: it on tonight's show. There were a number of guys 85 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: that entered the transfer portal. And I'm not talking about 86 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: no names. I'm not talking about some guy buried on 87 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: the depth chart. Over about a twenty minute span, you 88 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: see Henry Tootooquavera's crouch. Who else Gray entered, Dremier Johnson entered, 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: and so Eric Gray. I didn't give you the last 90 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: name there. Eric Gray is the running back. I mean, 91 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: that is your best defensive player. You could argue your 92 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: best offensive player. Again, you could argue a starting linebacker 93 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: and starting tackle that entered the transfer portal. Boom boom, 94 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: boom boom. And it was obviously well, it felt coordinated. 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how that actually went down there. 96 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: But it also it kind of gave an answer to 97 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: this lingering question that had been out there. I had 98 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: been doing radio yesterday actually over in Knoxville, and I 99 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: was asked, how do you think that this year is 100 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: gonna fare? You know, how do you think the transfer 101 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: portal could impact this? And there was a lot of question, 102 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: like a lot of Tennessee fans were wondering that well, 103 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: at the very least, you don't have to wonder anymore. 104 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: That's no solace, that's no consolation because the answer was 105 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: the worst possible answer. And I don't think for the 106 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: record they're done losing guys. But the answer is there 107 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: will not be very many folks sticking around there. This 108 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: could not have happened at a worst time, by the way, 109 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: so let's follow along here. Here's what's happening. Tennessee kind 110 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: of chose to self impose sanctions on themselves. Now that 111 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: doesn't mean the NC DOUBLEA eventually wouldn't have, but I 112 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: mean we've seen other programs in the past deal with 113 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: it differently and end up getting off virtually scott free. 114 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: Tennessee did not take that route. Tennessee had an internal investigation, 115 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: and they informed the NC DOUBLEA, and the NCAA, as 116 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: far as we can tell, has kind of monitored that. 117 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: And then they've got their own investigation going on. And 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: so Tennessee gets to the conclusion and they have a 119 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: press conference, they publicly announced their findings in as much 120 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: details as they can. They fire Jeremy Prewitt. Again, this 121 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: is Tennessee talking. This is not the NCAA. And Cuba 122 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: hasn't handed down a single They haven't even so much 123 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: as delivered a notice of allegations, much less had Tennessee 124 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: come to Indianapolis and answer for their infractions. And so 125 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: right now this is all Tennessee. They fire Jeremy Prewitt. 126 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: They announced Phil Fulmer's retiring. But I can guarantee you, 127 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: based on what we saw yesterday, that's not a retirement. 128 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: You don't get paid half your salary over the next 129 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: three years in a retirement situation. That's called it's called 130 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: being allowed to retire. That's what that's called. Let me 131 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: translate fired, that's what it is. Phil Fulmer got fired 132 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes. And now you see the ramifications, 133 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: because what tends to happen when the person that a 134 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: lot of kids signed up to play for gets fired 135 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: is they don't want to play there anymore. And here's 136 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: the other downside. It's the transfer portal era in now, 137 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: and kids have zero perceived penalty for hopping in that 138 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: thing and getting out of town. It used to be 139 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: that that was a very very very last resort, and 140 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: now it's almost reactive. It's almost something bad happened, all right, 141 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm gone, and so one after the other after the other, 142 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: and it may not be done. They have hopped in 143 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: the portal to answer the question the first question we 144 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: had there from Andrew. I mean, certainly you're going to 145 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: be able to feeld a team, but I will tell 146 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: you the numbers are going to be very severely impacted. 147 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: And it's not something you could have seen coming from 148 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: a roster management standpoint, Like if we were a year 149 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: ago and you could have seen this coming, well you 150 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: can start to structure your roster Accordingly, we didn't know 151 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 1: this was coming a month ago. We had no clue 152 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: this was really coming a month ago. And so you're 153 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: not going to be prepared for this. Not that you 154 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: ever really could have fully been prepared for this kind 155 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: of blow, but you're certainly not going to be prepared 156 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: for it. Now. Kevin Steele's got a lot on his 157 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: plate here, that Stat's going to have a lot on 158 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: their plate. As for the overall ramifications here, can I 159 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: offer any optimism, Well, here's the one bit of optimism. 160 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: So let's try, as we might to put on our 161 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: positivity hat here for a second. What if this happens, 162 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: What if the NCAA is observing this, and they are 163 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: looking on and they're watching these dudes jump in the portal, 164 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: and they're watching Jeremy Pruitt be fired, and they're watching 165 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: portions of the football program just be totally cleaned out, 166 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: and they decide, you know, what punishment has been served there. Now, 167 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: there's not necessarily precedent for what I'm saying here. It's 168 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: not necessarily the modus operandi for the NC DOUBLEA. But 169 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean, then again, I get the feelings. Sometimes they 170 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: lick their index finger and stick it in the wind 171 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: for guidance. So maybe that's how this works out. Maybe 172 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: that's the hope for Tennessee is they're gonna get so 173 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: far out in front of it, and they've involved the 174 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: NC DOUBAA at every step. Reportedly, they get so far 175 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: in front of it to where they can say, hey, look, 176 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: I mean we got rid of all these folks. We've 177 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: lost a bunch of players. So that essentially is the 178 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: scholarship productions you would have dealt out Bowl ban. I 179 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, if they're going to hand that 180 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: out or not sanctions further, any kind of probationary period 181 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: show causes for coaches. I assume that probably will come 182 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: for a few of them. But I think maybe the 183 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: optimism would be the darkest day are right now, and 184 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: the darkest days don't have to come with us having 185 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: to wait six months or a year and then we 186 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: get sanctions handed down and then the dark days starry. 187 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: So maybe you're just front loading the dark part here, 188 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: and then you start to get into the latter portions 189 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one and all the NCAA clouds in 190 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: your rearview mirror instead of still on the horizon, and 191 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: you can get to the business of hiring a coach. 192 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: I am of the opinion that Kevin Steele is going 193 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: to be the interim coach there for quite a while, 194 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: like the entire season pretty much, and then they'll hire 195 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: a coach afterwards. That's what the hope is, and I 196 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: think that's why you've seen things designed in the way 197 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: they have been. From Tennessee's perspective. There is no guarantee 198 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: it works out that way. That's why this is really risky, 199 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: really risky, but they know what they're doing. I have 200 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: to assume that next up is Kyle He said, what 201 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: is the impact of Larry Scott being replaced as the 202 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: PAC twelve commissioner. Now, this was news that came out 203 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: last night, and I don't think that it sent shockwaves 204 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: through the college football world. It did on the administrative side. 205 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: It did in the meta, like a lot of people 206 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: were talking about this, But I don't think if you're 207 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: a fan in Kenosha, Wisconsin, you really cared all that 208 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: much about seeing this headline. You may not even know 209 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: about it until I just read this question. So Larry 210 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: Scott is out. This is certainly no surprise. This has 211 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: long been rumored to be coming at some point this year. 212 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: Larry Scott is a guy who you get a lot 213 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: of reaction about. There are very few people indifferent to 214 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: the name Larry Scott. On one hand, there was a 215 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: time not too long ago where he raised some eyebrows 216 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: because the number one secured at the time one of 217 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: the biggest media rights deals in college football. Well, now 218 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: it's laughable. And the attempt to start the PAC twelve 219 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: network with no major partner backing you, that was triply laughable. 220 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what that essentially means. What that 221 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: means is the PAC twelve decided they were going to 222 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: have their own TV network, The PAC twelve network. Now 223 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: you may say, why is that laughable? There's an SEC network, Well, 224 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: there's a Big ten network. Yeah, they sure is. Think 225 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: about the SEC network and you see that logo. What 226 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: do you see on it? Will you see the SEC's logo, 227 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: You see the word network, you see the brand ESPN. 228 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: You see their logo there too. That's their partner, that's 229 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: the infrastructure. You know ESPN among the things they've done 230 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: historically pretty well, building television brands, building networks. They kind 231 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: of know how to do that. They're kind of in 232 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: that business. Fox is the same way in their partnership 233 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: with the Big ten network. They kind of know what 234 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: they're doing. The PAC twelve decided after they could not 235 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: get a partner, after Larry Scott and Company they could 236 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: not secure a media rights partner, they said, we'll just 237 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: build our own network and keep all the profits. That 238 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: sounds cool, that's very entrepreneurial. This is not the industry 239 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: that you want to go it alone in, I can 240 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: assure you. And so the PAC twelve essentially took their 241 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: took their league office, infrastructure, and said we're going to 242 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: be a TV network and I don't know how much 243 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: this is going to shock you, friends, But what if 244 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: I told you that ended up not working out? What 245 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: if I told you that folks who would run a 246 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: bakery all their lives decided to be a gas station 247 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: and had no clue how to properly sell gas, wouldn't 248 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: that shock you? Yeah, well that's what's happened with the 249 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: PAC twelve. So the PAC twelve network's just been an 250 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: unmitigated disaster. There's still largely not in any homes. I mean, 251 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: those of you out there, some of you live on 252 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: the West Coast, and you can't find the PAC twelve network. 253 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: So I can assure you it's never been anything more 254 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: than a rumor than a faintly heard whisper in places 255 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: like Atlanta or Birmingham or you know where I lived 256 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: in the South of my whole life, we don't even 257 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: know about the PAC twelve network. And that's why it's 258 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: a big, big problem. So you can't find the product. 259 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: The product itself has suffered under Larry Scott. And now 260 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: some of that's under his control, some of that's out 261 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: of his control. But he went from a guy who 262 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: at one point was rumored to be going after Oklahoma 263 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: and Texas and they were going to be the PAC 264 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: sixteen to starting the TV network, and there was a 265 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: lot of optimism on the front end of that from 266 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: folks who didn't know any better to now he's a 267 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: guy who is viewed as having contributed to running the 268 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: PAC twelve as a conference into the ground. I don't 269 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: know who in the world they're gonna get. There are 270 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot of names. Most of them wouldn't mean anything 271 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: to you, guys, if you're just casual fans and you 272 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: don't follow the administrative side of college football. But they 273 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: got to get someone out there that presses the right buttons, 274 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: and to be honest with you, in a lot of cases, 275 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what those buttons are. Because here's what 276 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna need at this point. They're gonna need the 277 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: football coaches out there. They're gonna need the football minds 278 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: to hit some home runs or else. Nothing's gonna matter 279 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: if you don't have a viable football product on the 280 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: West coast. This is not the University of Tennessee. Tennessee, 281 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: for example, is a mess right now. Everybody still cares. 282 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: If you're a mess on the West Coast, people just 283 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: walk away. It's just the culture. There are a million 284 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: different reasons why, but it's just the culture. So if 285 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: you don't have the viable football products up and down 286 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: the West Coast, it's not gonna matter who the commissioner is. 287 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: You got to get the right commissioner, and you have 288 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: to have some things happen on the football side of things, 289 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: and those things have to coinside. Like the PAC twelve 290 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: is salvageable, but there is a widening gap, a quickly 291 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: widening financial gap between the halves and then the PAC twelve, 292 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: which is becoming a have not. And not only do 293 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: you have to pause that trend, you have to reverse 294 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: that trend. You can't just freeze the gap. You got 295 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: to close the gap. And that's hard to do. In fact, 296 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: as a conference, that's harder to do than one individual 297 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: football program closing the gap on another football program. And 298 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: even that's hard. We'll probably talk about that more for 299 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: the record on Late Kick Live tonight, so make sure 300 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: you're tuned in and subscribe to the twenty four to 301 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: seven Sports YouTube channel for that. All right, let's roll 302 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: on brand and had a good one here, he said, 303 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: I listened to your response on expanding the postseason, but 304 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: not liking that it would come at the expense of 305 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: the regular season, which I agree on. My question is 306 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: what do we have to do to get those kinds 307 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: of games played in the regular season. My buddies and 308 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: I like the idea of something like the SEC Versus 309 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: Big Ten Challenge where you match up teams from common 310 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: references based on what they're seeding was from the previous 311 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: year and all This would be Brandon's talking about, is 312 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: kind of deal where maybe you open the next season 313 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: where the Secs number one from the prior year plays 314 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: the Big Tens number one from the prior year, number 315 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: four versus number four, and so on and so forth. 316 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: I like the idea, Brandon. People will tell you this 317 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: is impossible. It's not impossible at all. It's no more 318 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: impossible than rapidly changing your plans on the fly. From 319 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: an entire college football conference perspective, to be able to 320 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: execute a ten game schedule with ten percent fans in 321 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: the stands and mask protocols in place. You get done 322 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: what you have to get done. And so if someone said, hey, 323 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: let's just get this done, it would get done. There 324 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: isn't as much urgency, I don't think from the Power 325 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: five side of things, because they largely like how the 326 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: current structure in place has benefited them, And so I 327 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: can't say that I wouldn't be the same way if 328 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: I were a commissioner of one of those conferences. But 329 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: I do always think we need to be doing something 330 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: to improve the viewing experience and to improve the overall 331 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: competitive integrity of the sport. So this would be good. 332 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: I think obviously you'd try and park it on the 333 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: front end of the schedule, in the first few weeks 334 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: of the schedule, and I think you should give teams flexibility. 335 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: You know, if you want to play in week two, 336 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: do it in week two, work it out amongst yourselves. 337 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: If you want to do it in week one, do 338 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: it in week one, neutral site, home field, like, you know, 339 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: give folks flexibility if they want it to be able 340 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: to execute that plan. But it would be great, It 341 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: would be really great, and it would add some intrigue 342 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: in bowl season and at the end of the regular 343 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: season for teams that are floating in the middle of 344 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: the conference, like let's see where we're going to land, 345 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Let's see who we're going to be playing to start 346 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: next year. Imagine that concept for a second. Imagine that 347 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: you are a fan of Arkansas football, and you're a 348 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: fan of Northwestern football, and you guys are watching your 349 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: teams towards the end of the year, and it's only 350 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: after the end of the regular season that you find 351 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: out who you're paired with to start the following year. 352 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: Part of your schedule is hashed out at the end 353 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: of the previous regular season. I think that would be 354 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: a fun concept. But I'm going to tell you right 355 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: now what you have to do. And it's not necessarily 356 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: on your plate or my plate, but in general, what 357 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: we have to have happen in college football. If you 358 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: ever want teams to load up their regular season schedule, 359 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: Power five teams to load up their regular season schedule 360 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: more than they already have in their conference slate, You're 361 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: going to have to learn how to talk about wins 362 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: and losses in college football. Right now, Put yourself in 363 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: the chair of athletic director at a major university and 364 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: look around at how the postseason conversation happens now. Right now, 365 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: everyone talks about how it's so tilted towards the Power 366 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: five and it's tilted against the G five. Well, I 367 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: can tell you right now that's not how I'd view 368 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: it if I were an athletic director. That's not how 369 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: I'd view it at all. Here's how I'd see it. 370 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: If I'm Texas A and M, just to pick a 371 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: team out of the blue, I know I have to 372 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: play Alabama, LSU, Auburn, I have to play SEC schedule. 373 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm in the toughest division in college football. I'm not Alabama, 374 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: so I have to play Alabama, and I have to 375 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: play you know, the rest of the SEC's slate in 376 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: that given year. Okay, that's hard. That alone is harder 377 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: than any G five schedule out there. And I haven't 378 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: even talked about out of conference yet. Like, if I 379 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: were Texas A and M, I could schedule four Texas 380 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: high schools. I kid you not, I'm not joking about this. 381 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: I could schedule four high schools in the state of Texas, 382 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: and as long as I'm still playing eight conference games 383 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: in the SEC, my schedule is guaranteed to be harder 384 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: than any G five schedule out there. So what do 385 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Why am I making that point? Well, what 386 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: I mean is, if I'm Texas A and M, and 387 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I know I've already got that SEC schedule, I have 388 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: to play and I'm watching at the end of the 389 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: year and people are arguing for teams like Cincinnati to 390 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: be in the playoff or Coastal Carolina to be in 391 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: the playoff. And the argument is, well, they're undefeated and 392 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: they won their conference. Well, let me tell you what 393 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: message that sends to me. The message it sends to 394 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: me is I'm looking at Cincinnati and I'm asking myself 395 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: if I'm the ad of tech To and m Okay, 396 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: they're undefeated. Let me go see what teams they played. Well, 397 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: let's see here. They played Austin p and Army, South Florida, SMU, Memphis, Houston, 398 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: East Carolina, UCF, and Tulsa. And you're telling me that 399 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: because they went through that undefeated, that garners them conversation 400 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: into the national championship discussion, Like, that's what you're telling me. 401 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: And so I would look at that and I would say, 402 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: if all you have to do is be undefeated, if 403 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: all you have to have is a goose egg in 404 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: the lost column, I'm over here already having to play 405 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: an SEC schedule. So I've got several teams in any 406 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: given year on my schedule that may very well be 407 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: tougher than the toughest opponent a G five team has 408 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: to play. Why would I voluntarily add stronger opponents on 409 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: my out of conference schedule giving me more opportunities to 410 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: lose games? Again, if it were a situation where we 411 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: properly interpret strength of schedule in these conversations, and more 412 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: people were smart enough to look around and say, you know, 413 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: there are occasions where they're there could be a two 414 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: or in some cases, a three loss Power five team 415 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: that has a stronger resume than an undefeated G five 416 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: team in some circumstances. If there were more smart folks 417 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: in the room that were brave enough to look around 418 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: and say that, well, then if I'm an athletic director, 419 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: I'd say, okay, as long as you understand that, and 420 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: as long as you can compensate for that, well, I'm 421 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: willing to go schedule whoever you want me to. They 422 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: want to play the games. It's more money, it's a 423 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: better product, it's more revenue, it's more exposure. Like everything's 424 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: in the plus column. But when you're talking about the 425 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: postseason conversation, as long as you're sitting here equating an 426 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: undefeated Coastal Carolina team to the likes of a one 427 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: loss Texas A and M team, and you actually think 428 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: that those are equal resumes. As long as you're doing that, 429 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: you're giving me zero incentive to ever beef up my schedule, 430 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: because as long as you just think a loss is 431 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: a loss in college football and undefeated is undefeated in 432 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: college football, you don't understand what you're watching. And as 433 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: long as you don't understand what you're watching, I'm not 434 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: going to give you a reason to knock me just 435 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: because I challenged myself. And before anyone suggests expanding the 436 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: playoff would solve that problem, because then you could get 437 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: A and M and Cincinnati in, you can save that. 438 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: I've heard it a million times. I'm not interested. I'm 439 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: not interested in any postseason format that grants an auto 440 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: bid to anyone for being a conference champion. I'm also 441 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: not interested in a playoff format that allows a backdoor 442 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: in just to give someone a seat at the table 443 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: because it makes us feel more warm and fuzzy inside. 444 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: There is no world where you should be able to 445 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: play the schedule. Coastal Carolina just played and be granted 446 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: a playoff spot. The only reason really some of you 447 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: really wanted him in this year is cause it's a 448 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: cute story and it's coastal Carolina. Knowing full well, if 449 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: I took the aforementioned Texas A and m Aggie's and 450 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: somehow I had them play the following teams Campbell, Kansas, 451 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 1: Arkansas State, Louisiana, Georgia, Southern Georgia State, South Alabama, Troy, 452 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: Appalachian State, Texas State, Brigham Young and Liberty. You would 453 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: look me dead in my eyes, not even blink and 454 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: say Texas say and them had a trash schedule, they 455 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: didn't play anyone, and you know what, you'd be right, 456 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: but you'd also be hypocritical because you'd be making an 457 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: argument against a Power five team using the same schedule 458 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: that you'd be using in favor of the G five team. 459 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: It's a different standard that's used in the college football 460 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: playoff conversation. It's very subconscious in nature, and it's only 461 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: because you try and to make it comport with this 462 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: larger worldview you have of keeping the little guy down 463 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: over here. It's not that apply the same standard, and 464 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: you'll realize college football is very unequal. There is no 465 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: amount of readjusting the postseason that's going to inject more equity. 466 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: At least to the point where the coastal Carolinas of 467 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: the world could ever compete on the same field with 468 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: the Texas A and M's of the world. And therefore 469 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: we need to really adopt my mentality of getting ourselves 470 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: a G five playoff and a Power five playoff, and 471 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: then we can really start talking about how to fix 472 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: college football's postseason. I promise myself Producer Jordan, he's editing 473 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: this right now. I promised him and myself I wouldn't 474 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: let myself to get worked up over playoff conversation this morning, 475 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: and yet it happened, and it was voluntary. That's the 476 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: most embarrassing part. Nothing in the question had to do 477 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: with the playoff. Brandon didn't even mention the playoff, and 478 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: yet I did it to myself. And here's the other 479 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: big error that I just made. This is pretty egregious. 480 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: So I got a question coming up from Henry that 481 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: has to do with the very team that I just 482 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: chose to use in a hypothetical scenario. So it's going 483 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: to sound like, all of a sudden, I'm tilting this 484 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: entire show this morning to one program, and I'm not. 485 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: I should have just looked ahead at the questions that 486 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: are coming. So if you want to hear my royal 487 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: screw up, it's coming in the question that will be 488 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: presented right after this. So here we go. Henry asks, 489 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: I caught your late kick about Texas A and M. 490 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: How about that A M. Have we talked about them lately? 491 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: And Jimbo Fisher and I had a question. I agree 492 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: with your oven versus microwave analogy. By the way, you 493 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: mentioned the people you know saying Texas A and M's 494 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: not going to be there any longer. They're a flash 495 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: in the pan, et cetera. In your opinion, Why do 496 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: people think, Henry? They think that because some people have 497 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: to see it to believe it. It's that simple. Texas 498 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: A and M has not won the SEC. They have 499 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: not won the SEC West, they have not been in 500 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: the playoff, and so it doesn't matter that I could 501 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: look at them and say, yeah, but they have all 502 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: the tools in place that it takes to be that. 503 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: Just because they haven't been that doesn't mean they can't be. 504 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: That a lot of people have to see it to 505 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: believe it, and I understand that that's pretty common sensical, 506 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I get that if Texas 507 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: A and M had a long standing reputation of being 508 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: a perennial contender, that'd be one thing. But this has 509 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: been one of the most underachieving college football programs in 510 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: America over the past several decades. I mean, I've always 511 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: believed that, Like I've always believed they are the sleeping 512 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: giant in college football. I don't think they're sleeping anymore, 513 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: but I still don't think people are ready to take 514 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: them as a serious college football playoff contender. I think 515 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: the other part of that, whether anyone will be honest 516 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: about it or not, is everyone knows which division they 517 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: play in, and so everyone knows Alabama is there every 518 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: single year. And that's before we even talk about the 519 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: notion that Auburn could be good any given year or 520 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: LSU could be good any given year. Plus you've got 521 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: to play teams from the East, but you've got Alabama there, 522 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: and so at the very beginning, at the very starting point, 523 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: it's viewed as a non starter. The concept of Texas 524 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: A and M being a contender. It's viewed as a 525 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: non starter cause I think in most minds, Texas A 526 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: and M being a contender has to comport with Alabama 527 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: not being a contender. Now, in reality, it doesn't have 528 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: to work out that way, but I think for broad 529 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: strokes preseason purposes, that's how most minds would work there. 530 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not getting over Alabama, and if you 531 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: don't get over them, you're not going to the playoff. 532 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: So I think it would either be Nick Saban retiring 533 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: or Jimbo Fisher actually pulling an upset and winning the SEC. 534 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: That's what would have to happen before folks were ready 535 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: to perennially take them seriously. Now I'm already there. I'm 536 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: already taking them seriously. I don't have to see it 537 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: happen in order to believe it could happen. And you 538 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: asked in the question there, Henry, and let me reiterate. 539 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: He said, you know, I liked how you raised it 540 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: as an oven versus a microwave analogy. I want stuff 541 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: that's been cooked in the oven whenever I can get it, 542 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: just like I want a football program where time has 543 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: been taken and it's been built a right way, because 544 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: that's a lot more sustainable. You've seen flash in the 545 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: pan overnight microwave type successes before, where you get a 546 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: team that pops, and then the very next year they're 547 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: eight and four again, and then they're three and nine again. 548 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: I mean, that kind of stuff has happened before Auburn 549 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: football has done that. I mentioned Auburn. Auburn's been that. 550 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: Auburn's had a couple of microwave seasons that weren't really 551 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: built on a firm foundation that sets you up for 552 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: long term, sustained success. Jimbo Fisher has obviously built his infrastructure. 553 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: They've got immaculate facilities, all that, all the physical infrastructures 554 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: in place. Finances will never be a problem there. But 555 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: here's what else they've done. He's built the organizational model 556 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: the right way. He's modeled a lot of what they've 557 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: built there after what Alabama has. And they've also recruited 558 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: in a lot the same strategy that major programs like 559 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: Alabama or Ohio State do. They've built lines of scrimmage. 560 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: They've really good. You watched their offensive line last year. 561 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: Anytime your offensive line has a nickname, it's probably doing okay. 562 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: And so they've built lines of scrimmage, they've built depth there. 563 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: They've got to get the quarterback figured out, and once 564 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: they do all of a sudden, people are gonna look 565 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: at Texas A and M and say, oh, man, who 566 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: knew they were just one quarterback away from being a 567 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: college football playoff team. Well, I don't think it's that 568 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: hard to see. He's got to use your imagination a 569 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: little bit. Jimbo Fisher's already been there before. There's no 570 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: guesswork as to whether Jimbo Fisher can build a winner 571 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: or even win at all. He's not it before a 572 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: lot of these other folks have been hired and you 573 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: think they can't. Like you think Lincoln Riley can win 574 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: a national title. I know Jimbo Fisher can because he 575 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: already has. So I take him every bit as serious 576 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: as a lot of these other head coaches. I'm not 577 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: knocking any of them. I'm telling you I put Jimbo 578 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: Fisher at the same table as I do some of 579 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: the others, Like Nick Saban's got his own table. But 580 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: by and large, outside of Saban, if I'm talking about 581 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Day, or I'm talking about Lincoln Riley, or I'm 582 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: talking about Kirby Smart, or I'm talking about even Dabo Swinny, 583 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys could argue he belongs at a 584 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: different table too. That's fine. I think Dabboud have a 585 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: little bit harder time had he been in the same 586 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: division as Nick Saban all these years. But I put 587 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: jimbo Fisher at that table right along with those guys. 588 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: In terms of what I project over the next five 589 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: to seven years, I think Texas A and MLB right there. 590 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to Matthew's question. This is 591 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: a pretty good one. He said, what are some schools 592 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: that have a difficult time recruiting because of the geographical 593 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: seclusion of the school itself. This is a good one, Matthew. 594 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: So there are a lot of answers here, but I 595 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: had a few that I wanted to circle. Now. Matthew 596 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: mentioned Texas Tech and his question as an example. That's 597 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: a really good one. Lubbock, Texas and Austin, Texas are 598 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: in the same state, and that will conclude the list 599 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: of similarities between Austin, Texas and Lubbock, Texas. You could 600 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: fit like three Mississippis between those cities. That's how far 601 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: apart they are. Texas, as they like to say, is 602 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: its own country, Well it is. If you've ever ridden 603 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: a greyhound bus across the entire state of Texas. You 604 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: know exactly what I'm talking about. I once rode a 605 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: bus from Columbus, Georgia, to Lubbock, Texas and back. We 606 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: had a church mission trip out there, Vandelia. I want 607 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: to say the church and love it. And we rode 608 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: out there, and man, that was the longest year and 609 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: a half of my life. It seems felt like I 610 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: was on the Oregon Trail. Felt like I was gonna 611 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: get dysentery and my little wagon was gonna lose its 612 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: wheel at any second. So Texas Tech certainly is one 613 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: of those. I think Missouri belongs on this list. Think 614 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: about relativity. Now, if Missouri were in the MAC, it'd 615 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: be a different story. Missouri is in the SEC, so 616 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: they're trying to compete against the University of Florida. Think 617 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: about the disadvantage Missouri competing against Georgia and Florida. They 618 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: are in Missouri, Columbia, Missouri. Obviously, you got to go 619 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: a long, long way before you start bumping into some 620 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: high school talent, the likes of which you need to 621 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: be able to recruit and land to compete with those 622 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: big boys. Washington State is another one. In Pullman Washington. 623 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: And you may think, if you're a southern fan, or 624 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: if you're an East coast fan, you may think, hey, 625 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: west coast is West coast. Well, that's, first off, not true. 626 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: It's very different being on the coast of let's say, Oregon, 627 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: versus being on the southern California coast. It's different being 628 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: on the coast of northern California than it is on 629 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: the coast of southern California. But coast is irrelevant. Let's 630 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: not even use the word coast here. Pullman, Washington is 631 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: a long way from the west coast. Pullman, Washington is 632 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: on the other side of the state. Before the podcast, 633 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm mapped out how long it would take to drive 634 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: from the campus of Washington State to the Pacific Ocean. 635 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: You know how long it would take six hours and 636 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: eleven minutes. That's three hundred and seventy five miles. To 637 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: give you an idea of how long that is, it 638 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: would take me sitting in Nashville, Tennessee, about the same 639 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: amount of time to drive to the Gulf Coast. That's Mobile, Alabama. 640 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: So Nashville to Mobile is the same distance as it 641 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: is in Washington State. To drive from the campus to 642 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean, so that's not even close, and so 643 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: it's really hard to get kids to come to rural 644 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: Washington that's in the easternmost portion of Washington. That's a 645 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: tough one. I mean, when you're being asked to compete 646 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: against Southern cal or the Arizona schools UCLA, that should 647 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: be very, very hard. The Washington States had themselves some success, 648 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: but if programs in Southern California and Arizona, if those 649 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: schools are doing what they're supposed to, you shouldn't really 650 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: be able to compete there. So it's really a testament 651 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: to the way they've run the program that they have 652 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: been able to compete. Another one that I talked about 653 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: the other day and I'll talk about again is Penn State. Now, 654 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: Penn State has a track record of success, but if 655 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: you look really at the dynamics geographically there, that's not 656 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: an easy place to get to. That's one of the 657 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: first things people talk about inside college football when you 658 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: mentioned Ann Arbor Columbus and then you mentioned state college. 659 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: It's a tough place to get to. A lot of 660 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: folks at Penn State. They get aggravated when some of 661 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: these players that they think they should land in the 662 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: recruiting game, they don't land them. And sometimes through back channels, 663 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: that's the feedback you get is it's just kind of 664 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: more isolated geographically from what maybe the players found appealing 665 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: about the bigger city atmosphere of maybe a Columbus, Ohio. 666 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: Now that's not sometimes that excuse may sometimes it may 667 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: be sour grapes, but I think other times there's some 668 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: validity to that. So Penn State, Texas Tech, Missouri, Washington State, 669 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: those are really the four I came up with. And 670 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: it's college football, so there are programs all over the place, 671 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: so you could come up with several more quick reminder 672 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: Late Kick Live tonight, we have got a lot to 673 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: talk about. We got the Tennessee mess. We're going deep 674 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: on that. I'm doing more Mood Tracker segments tonight. Stay 675 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: tuned for the programs that will be featured. I'll probably 676 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: talk about some PAC twelve, Larry Scott, where they're going 677 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: to go next, and we'll see what kind of numbers 678 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: that that video does. I can look, I can see 679 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: concurrent viewership. That just means how many people are tuned 680 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: in live. And I always go back and look and 681 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: it's very interesting to see where the peaks and dips 682 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: in our live streams are. That just means what the 683 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: audience is interested in more than other things. The audience 684 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: is interested in, so really good research we can do there. 685 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 1: As for this morning, I think that about wraps it up. 686 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: Remember fill the inbox so we can load these shows 687 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: up next week. Joshpat seven zero six at gmail dot 688 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: com or on Twitter at late Kick Josh and follow 689 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: me there anyway, whether you're gonna submit a question or not. 690 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: All right for producer Jordan, I'm Josh Pain. Thanks so 691 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: much for listening this morning. Have a great rest of 692 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: your day and God bless