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Speaker 1: Hey there, fan Ritos, Welcome back to a brand new

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Speaker 1: episode of How Rude Tanertos. We can't wait to welcome

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Speaker 1: today's guest onto the podcast. He appeared on Full House

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Speaker 1: as the infamous boxer Reggie the Sandman Martin, whose boxing

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Speaker 1: career was ruined by Danny Tanner himself. But this is

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Speaker 1: one actor whose career wasn't killed by Full House, and

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Speaker 1: thank goodness for that. In fact, Ernie Hudson is a

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Speaker 1: seasoned actor whose career spans fifty years of iconic film

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Speaker 1: and television roles like the Ghostbusters franchise, The Crow, Oz,

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Speaker 1: Grace and Frankie, and so much more. So we are

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Speaker 1: beyond to have him join us today, so please give

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Speaker 1: a very warm welcome to the legendary Ernie Hudson.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, hi, he hi, Hello, welcome.

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Speaker 3: What a delight.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us today. This is

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to get to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thanks so much for inviting me.

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Speaker 4: I'm really excited to talk to you guys as well.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I was just saying that I was really

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Speaker 5: excited to have you on the show because I was

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Speaker 5: the one responsible for creating.

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Speaker 3: The tie tech that that ruined your boxing career. So

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Speaker 3: my apologies.

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Speaker 5: I didn't realize that Plato would dry so hard, and

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Speaker 5: I'm just glad I couldn't protect my dad, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, god, you know, it's it's so you know,

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Speaker 4: all the years, you guys look amazing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I'm just going to assume everything as well. Life is good,

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Speaker 4: I know on my but hopefully you know, things go

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Speaker 4: with you guys as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, meetings are great.

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Speaker 5: We get to do this podcast together and she's like

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Speaker 5: one of my best friends, so that makes for a

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Speaker 5: pretty fun and easy time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always best when you work you love.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And it's so great getting to go back

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Speaker 1: and revisit all of these episodes because we have such

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Speaker 1: a greater appreciation for the stars who were on Full House.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day, we were so young as child actors,

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Speaker 3: To our show see that we had. Oh my god, yeah, yes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, that's it's funny because looking back and

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Speaker 4: I think of all the kids that all the shows

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Speaker 4: And but yeah, it was just a wonderful time. But

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: Uh, I mean it was like our childhood. It just

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Speaker 5: seemed weirdly normal, you know. I was like, well, that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and rewatching the show now is like watching

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Speaker 1: home movies for us. I was like, oh, look at

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Speaker 1: your Look at your bad perro.

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Speaker 3: You can't believe you wore that on national television.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, in this business,

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Speaker 4: we'll always trust the people to to But then you

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Speaker 3: Know, because at the time height of fashion.

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Speaker 3: With the with the youth, we're like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: it's a throwback. You're like, that's my childhood. But okay, you.

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Speaker 5: Have been in this business for fifty years.

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Speaker 5: First of all, you don't look like you've been in

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Speaker 3: But you have. This is like an incredible career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think when I you know, because it took

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Speaker 2: Did you know. I got out of high school and

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Speaker 4: And then I discovered theater and acting. And once I

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Speaker 2: It and not being a part of it, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, absolutely, Yeah, So how did you break into the

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Speaker 4: Well, I got out of high school and I realized

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Speaker 4: It was a story about a father who disowned his

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Speaker 4: Not that I ever thought i'd be And when I

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Speaker 4: And It's the interesting thing is that was in like

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Speaker 2: Somehow or that made enough money doing kids doing a

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Speaker 4: I was, you know, but I think it was. You know,

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Speaker 2: But she taught me to trust the universe, trust God

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Speaker 2: And so that's always what I've kind of dependent on.

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Speaker 4: And as I look over my career over the almost

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Speaker 4: I can almost say pretty much all the breaks, what

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Speaker 5: I felt the electricity, yes, and I knew this is mine.

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Speaker 2: And then they said, well, it was very nice, but

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Speaker 2: But I thought this this, I get this character. This

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Speaker 3: Because Ernie was my I like, you were my favorite character.

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Speaker 4: not at all what I would if I look down

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Speaker 4: the road and I thought this is what I'll have

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Speaker 4: to go through. It's yeah, so yeah, I uh, I

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Speaker 4: thought of this thing is more. I probably shouldn't say

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Speaker 4: this so because I know you guys are, but I

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Speaker 4: used to say I started in theater for about ten

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Speaker 4: years and only pretty much did theater, and then I

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Speaker 4: got into television and film. But and I would say

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Speaker 4: that theater for me was like a love affair. You know,

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Speaker 4: you go through rehearsals and you spend time with people,

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Speaker 4: you you're on stage together, you get this chemistry and

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Speaker 4: you're doing you night, and that's kind of it's a

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Speaker 4: it's a love affair. Hollywood for me was like six

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, It's.

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Speaker 3: Funny, he's actual sort of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's no guarantee that I'm not saying I love you.

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Speaker 2: It is just we're doing this now. Tomorrow it'll be somebody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll call you tomorrow. Sure you will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought we were but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think for a lot of us, which

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Speaker 4: is probably the thing that I hesitate to say that

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna step out of here and say this. For

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Speaker 4: a lot of us, we kind of go into it

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Speaker 4: thinking that I'm doing this because like the girl who

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Speaker 4: wants to get married, So I'm gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 4: sleep with the guy, but I'm hoping that I'll get married.

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Speaker 4: And some of us performers, actors, I think maybe whatever,

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Speaker 4: we kind of I'm doing this role because somebody's gonna

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Speaker 4: marry me and I'm going to be at the top

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Speaker 4: of the marquee and all this.

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Speaker 3: Somebody will love me right to me and.

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Speaker 4: To make me number one, you know, And you go, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm still I'm still you know, hitting the pay, but

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Speaker 4: I'm still knocking on the doors.

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Speaker 2: Well not really not going to the.

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Speaker 4: Doors, but it's it's all that expectation of this job

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Speaker 4: will mean something else.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, it's it's just the work. And and

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Speaker 2: that was a.

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Speaker 4: Hard sort of realization for me to just kind of go,

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Speaker 4: you know what, maybe this is not going to lead

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Speaker 4: to the next big whatever. Maybe this is maybe this

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Speaker 4: is just it is what it is, because I think

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Speaker 4: for a long time I kept and I think a

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Speaker 4: lot of friends hoping that oh I.

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Speaker 2: Got this job.

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Speaker 4: Now it's not just the job, but this job is

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Speaker 4: going to mean I'm going to be seen by right,

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Speaker 4: and then I'm going to be this I'm going to

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Speaker 4: be the new.

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Speaker 3: Action right right.

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Speaker 5: And we all and you know, we all like build

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Speaker 5: it in our heads. We're like, oh my, this is it,

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Speaker 5: this is the mo Yeah, and then you're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: that wasn't was not as Yeah, that was rather anti climactic.

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Speaker 2: Right yeah. You know, so it's uh, but.

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Speaker 5: And it's a parent that you absolutely love it. And

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Speaker 5: and you know, I like what you said about like

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Speaker 5: theater you do for sort of it's the passion the

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Speaker 5: love of it because people aren't going into theater for

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Speaker 5: the money.

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Speaker 3: But it is. Oh, it's the dirty work.

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Speaker 5: It's the in the in the ground, digging into things

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Speaker 5: and playing with stuff and trying new things. And like

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Speaker 5: I I find that theatre tends to be that place

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Speaker 5: where it's like you get to work out all the

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Speaker 5: stuff and then like you can take all of that

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Speaker 5: that you were playing around in and take it with you,

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Speaker 5: you know, all right, everybody. That wraps up Part one

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Speaker 5: of our interview with Ernie Hudson. I mean, wow, it's

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Speaker 5: not every day that we get to meet a seasoned

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Speaker 5: actor with so much incredible life experience under their belt.

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Speaker 5: U and I mean, I just so we were so

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Speaker 5: honored leed to have the chance to talk to Ernie

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Speaker 5: and ask him everything about like everything, uh, and asking

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Speaker 5: him about everything is obviously too much to fit into

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Speaker 5: one podcast episode, so we are splitting this interview into two,

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Speaker 5: So be sure to tune into Part two of our

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Speaker 5: Interview with Ernie Hudson, airing this Friday. You will not

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Speaker 5: want to miss it. In the meantime, if you want

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Speaker 5: to find us on Instagram, check us out at Howard Podcast,

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Speaker 5: So remember the world is small. The house is full

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Speaker 5: of homemade.

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Speaker 3: TI text I love it.

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Speaker 1: Homemade t tex.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, little homemade TI texts that are the size of songs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay, amazing