WEBVTT - 042223 Living in the Aftermath of Anti-Black Violence (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>And now my mic back like we can strike.

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<v Speaker 2>From headquarters behind.

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<v Speaker 3>In the be.

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<v Speaker 1>For those just tuning in the civic cecher, I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey's job. He is rams this job. This is.

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<v Speaker 4>A very emotionally mentally exhausted Q war. And if you

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<v Speaker 4>if you call it the first half of the show,

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<v Speaker 4>you have an idea why if you didn't keep listening.

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<v Speaker 4>We always, unfortunately have enough to keep me feeling like this.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll get better. That's what my brother says to me

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<v Speaker 1>every week. I will uh. Today we're talking about living

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<v Speaker 1>in the aftermath of anti black violence. Special guests in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio Marshawn Neely, who just shared a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>his personal story where he was a victim of police

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<v Speaker 1>brutality let's be honest and specifically the victim of a

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<v Speaker 1>police attack dog. And we're going to spend the second

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<v Speaker 1>part of the show talking about Ralph Yarl and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>love for you to stick around and share your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But first and foremost, let's discuss becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometime sometimes with the Baba we help with

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<v Speaker 1>big things in a little way, and sometimes we help

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<v Speaker 1>with little things but in a big way. And this

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<v Speaker 1>past week we came across the story from a young

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<v Speaker 1>lady named Jamia Bratcher or Jamia Bratcher, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>how to say it, but just one of those stories

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of hit me in the heart. She's an

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<v Speaker 1>individual who was sent to a homeless shelter, dropped off

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<v Speaker 1>at a homeless shelterer eighteenth birthday, and told to make

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<v Speaker 1>her way. Can you let our audience know who dropped

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<v Speaker 1>her off? It was her adopted parents that dropped her

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<v Speaker 1>off at a homeless shelter because they were no longer

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<v Speaker 1>receiving money for her. She made a video about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone was interviewing folks on the street, and that video

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<v Speaker 1>touched me and the people around me. And normally now's

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<v Speaker 1>the time I'd list her cash app because she showed

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<v Speaker 1>her cash app on the screen if someone wanted to help,

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<v Speaker 1>but she said she didn't know how to work it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll be honest, I sent money and it never

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<v Speaker 1>got accepted. So I really wanted to talk about her

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<v Speaker 1>supporting her financially. But now I'm going to ask since

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<v Speaker 1>we have stations all over the country, she's gone missing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would like for you all to please travel

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<v Speaker 1>over to my instagram at rams's jahr Am s e Sja.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the first photo there, and if you've seen her anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>you got any information on her, please, you know, contact

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<v Speaker 1>me or contact anybody that's connected to that, because we

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<v Speaker 1>need to find her and make sure that she's okay. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>We can help a lot in a small way, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is just on my heart, so I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>anybody supporting that. All Right now, we're gonna move on.

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<v Speaker 1>We're still talking about living in the aftermath of anti

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<v Speaker 1>black violence. But another crazy story that has kind of

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<v Speaker 1>really taken shape over the past week is the story

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<v Speaker 1>of Ralph Jarl, who was shot by Andrew Lester for

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<v Speaker 1>knocking on the wrong door when he was looking to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up his siblings. I think he went to the

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<v Speaker 1>right number address, but instead of street, it was lane

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<v Speaker 1>or lane it was street from something like.

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<v Speaker 4>That up some some easily mistakable minor semantic like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he rang the doorbell. And I'll read from

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City defender who's a big supporter of Civic

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<v Speaker 1>Side for a shout out to the Kansas City Defender.

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph y'arl, a sixteen year old black boy, was shot

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<v Speaker 1>twice by a white man in North Kansas City after

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally ringing the doorbell of the wrong home while attempting

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up his siblings. My understanding was his two

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<v Speaker 1>little brothers. The white man reportedly shot Ralph in the

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<v Speaker 1>head and shot through the glass door, and when y'all

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<v Speaker 1>was already bleeding on the ground, he shot him again,

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<v Speaker 1>this time in the head. The family has described it

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<v Speaker 1>as a hate crime, and community members are calling for

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<v Speaker 1>justice for the young victim. And just so we're clear

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<v Speaker 1>around us, the first shot was in the head, was

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<v Speaker 1>it okay? Okay, so imagine that I read that wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you read it right, But then you just added

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<v Speaker 4>that this time it was in the head until you

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<v Speaker 4>read about the second shot.

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<v Speaker 1>You shot him in the head already through the door.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, like for all of us to he shot

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<v Speaker 4>him in the head already, then let me go make sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And shoot him again. And he was unarmed, sixteen, an

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<v Speaker 1>unarmed child, Yes, sir, pick it. I'm just making sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm not sure. So one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to say here is sad and sick,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about it on the show before Q

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<v Speaker 1>and I. There is an audio recording that we came

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<v Speaker 1>across some months ago of a police person, someone with

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<v Speaker 1>some authority over normal police officers, suggesting that if an

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<v Speaker 1>officer draws a gun and shoots someone, that they should

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that the person dies, because if the officer

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<v Speaker 1>shoot someone and they live, they could sue and fiscally

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<v Speaker 1>that would have a greater impact than if the person

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<v Speaker 1>was actually dead. Not only that, but they wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>But now there's statement that would never happen before if

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<v Speaker 4>the person was dead. That's where that lack of accountably typically,

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<v Speaker 4>that lack of accountability typically comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no victim statement, there's no with Shawn Neely in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio, was telling the side of the story. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so so yeah, so this idea of this second shot

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<v Speaker 1>when he's already been shot in the head, As you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know for certain, but I suspect that that

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<v Speaker 1>might have played a role in it, because again, a

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<v Speaker 1>shot in the head through the door. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid definitives. Yeah, it's tough because you know.

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<v Speaker 4>To maintain our integrity as journalists in this space. It

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<v Speaker 4>is not, however, lost on me, the reason you shoot

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<v Speaker 4>this again. If it was fear or defending for your life,

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<v Speaker 4>you already shot him in the head. I think you'll

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<v Speaker 4>be fine, especially because he's a child with no weapon

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<v Speaker 4>and no way to harm you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'd be fine. We know what the second

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<v Speaker 1>shot was for. Oh yeah, and you mentioned something in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half of the show, Q that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to bring back up. The only quote unquote weapon was

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<v Speaker 1>that he had melanin in his skin. Yes, too much.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only weapon. And as you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm obviously being facetious here, but that's not a weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a human condition. Human beings have melanin, original

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<v Speaker 1>human beings, Homo sapiens sapiens, or melanated individuals from Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>the African continent. So if that struck fear in the

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<v Speaker 1>heart of this Andrew Lester, and he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>execute this attack on his child under the guise of

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<v Speaker 1>stand your ground laws, and I think it's time that

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<v Speaker 1>those laws be re examined to what end. Though right

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<v Speaker 1>like stand your ground on its face, the term should

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<v Speaker 1>be interpreted a lot different than ready fireing. Well, then

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's talk about Trayvon.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let's let's talk because that's that's where this versus

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<v Speaker 5>the first time I ever heard about this stand your

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<v Speaker 5>ground yep, A man stalked and murdered him and got

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<v Speaker 5>off on the basis of standing his ground.

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<v Speaker 4>In this case, weaponizing your fear of melanid skin gets

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<v Speaker 4>you off on the idea that maybe you thought this

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<v Speaker 4>young man was there to do you harm, and you

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<v Speaker 4>also betting on that second shot doing its child. Because

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<v Speaker 4>then we don't have we don't have to have a

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<v Speaker 4>nuanced conversation. There's no other witnesses.

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<v Speaker 1>There's you and the deceased, who cannot provide his account

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<v Speaker 1>of what happened. I love that you said that weaponizing

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<v Speaker 1>your fear, because I think that's exactly what you were

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<v Speaker 1>describing in your story, Marshawn. Because these officers breaking your door,

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<v Speaker 1>kicking in your in your door, and then grabbing you

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<v Speaker 1>in the i'm guessing like an atrium or entrance of

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<v Speaker 1>your home and being able to attack you like this,

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<v Speaker 1>there's that degree of protection, the qualified immunity, so forth

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<v Speaker 1>and so on, where if police brutality or overreach or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever takes place. They often say, well, it was based

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<v Speaker 1>on a fear for myself or fear, fear, fear, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the case is, and so weaponizing the fear. And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you're a black man. Ralph Yarl was a black child,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that's really the only way that I can

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<v Speaker 1>see that existing as a narrative, not a truth, but

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<v Speaker 1>a narrative in the minds of those who would cause

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<v Speaker 1>harm to black bodies. So that's a quick question.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew, guy, he didn't get arrested on the scene because

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<v Speaker 3>there was a stand in your grand law in effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we'll jump right there. I'm glad you brought

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<v Speaker 1>that up. So what happened Initially? The shooter, Andrew Lester,

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<v Speaker 1>was taken into police headquarters briefly to provide a statement,

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<v Speaker 1>but was released shortly after without being charged. How about

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<v Speaker 1>that now real quick, I want to interject something here.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to my voice. You know that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>black child who's sixteen years old and a white man

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<v Speaker 1>who was in his eighties. Right, this white man shot

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<v Speaker 1>this black child through the door. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>do me the favor that I often asked for on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I want you to change a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>these pieces around. Let's make the sixteen year old child

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<v Speaker 1>a white child, and let's make Andrew Lester black black. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>now let that play out in your head. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>police show up, what happens to Andrew Lester? Does he

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<v Speaker 1>go into police headquarters briefly to provide a statement and

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<v Speaker 1>release shortly after without being charged as it happened that way?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think he would have got arrested right on

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<v Speaker 3>the spot or worse or worse.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you for those that can't see cs, I

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<v Speaker 1>just got a quick quick question around. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you believe that they charged him because they felt

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<v Speaker 3>the story was going too viral?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought that up. Let me read all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So Andrew Lester was able to go home and clean

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<v Speaker 1>up any evidence as pressure mounted for police to charge

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<v Speaker 1>him with a crime.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine black Andrew Lester not being shot when

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<v Speaker 4>the police arrived, not being with the crime or arrested,

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<v Speaker 4>allowed to go into police headquarters, give his statement and

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<v Speaker 4>then go home and clean up any potential evidence. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>especially because in his statement, yes I shot him.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thanks for your statement, sir, have a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>Not let us keep your own custody while maybe a

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<v Speaker 4>crime scene investigator goes to see if the story checks

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<v Speaker 4>out since we don't have any other witnesses. No, you're fine, man,

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<v Speaker 4>go home and get your affairs together so we can

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<v Speaker 4>make sure you're going to be okay. I mean, all

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<v Speaker 4>you did was shoot a black kid, ye, and you

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<v Speaker 4>know we all know that's not a big deal, right man,

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<v Speaker 4>you be keeping it real.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so sad, but you're telling do you think

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<v Speaker 3>that if Andrew was black, that he would have got

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<v Speaker 3>to do the peaceful surrender because he got to have

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<v Speaker 3>his last meal?

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<v Speaker 1>DN go turn himself in after the charge has got

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<v Speaker 1>brought against him. You know what, I think you're touching

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<v Speaker 1>on something that is a theme around here, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will uh summarize the criminal justice system in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States of America treat you very different if you are

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<v Speaker 1>white and guilty than if you are black and innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll treat you worse if you're black and innocent then

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<v Speaker 1>if you're white and guilty.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, come on, Ramses, you know, conversations like this are

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<v Speaker 4>intellectually beneath us, and you need to be a higher

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<v Speaker 4>thinker because of course, things aren't that simple. They don't

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<v Speaker 4>just treat you worse because you're black and innocent and.

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<v Speaker 1>Better for those that don't white and guilty. Would Q

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<v Speaker 1>was obviously being facetious here you can't see his face,

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<v Speaker 1>but but yeah, this is a theme that and this

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<v Speaker 1>is a big part of why the show exists in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place, is that you know, you weren't around obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but in twenty twenty when George Floyd was murdered and

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<v Speaker 1>we all saw and be murdered, and we saw that

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<v Speaker 1>there was initially no accountability. The idea that in spaces

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<v Speaker 1>where this show is broadcast, in particular hip hop stations,

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<v Speaker 1>there were people who were profiting from the culture. There

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<v Speaker 1>were people who were chronicling a narrative of what it

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<v Speaker 1>means to be black in this country. And there was

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<v Speaker 1>a visibly absent moment that was necessary, a moment of

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<v Speaker 1>clarity where we talked about, indeed the fullness of the

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<v Speaker 1>black experience in this country. We need to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>systemic oppression. We need to talk about systemic injustice. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk about white supremacy, white supremacists institutions. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk about economic inequality. We need to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about housing, We need to talk about healthcare outcomes. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk about the criminal justice system, among other things.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to your point, that is indeed the reason

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<v Speaker 1>the show exists. So I appreciate you bringing that up.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to read a little bit more because, believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not, it gets deeper. Charges. A first degree

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<v Speaker 1>assault and armed criminal action came two days later. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to stop here. Okay, So two days later

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<v Speaker 1>he's charged again because of mounting public pressure, as you mentioned, Marshall,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's charged with first degree assault, armed criminal action.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not attempted murder. You said he got shot in

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<v Speaker 1>the head, right, first shot, and then then he got

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<v Speaker 1>shot again, and then you shot him again. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds to me like attempted murder. They didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>charge him with that, right, It probably felt like him

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<v Speaker 1>like felt to him like successful murder. Yeah, probably in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, sounds like capital murder. Well, we're grateful that

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph is recovering for those that have story, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>grateful that you're recovering too, Marshaun, because we don't often

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<v Speaker 1>get stories like this. A lot of times you end

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<v Speaker 1>up talking about people and they can't say anything. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're really appreciated. I want to make sure that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a Stabbs. We're grateful that you could come to the

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<v Speaker 1>studio and tell your story. Yes, but yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>when you said that, they hit you with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of charges that they ultimately had to drop. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, they forced you to take a plea deal

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of solitary confinement so you can go

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<v Speaker 1>back home and recover. Q calls that trumped up charges. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the same criminal justice system. Q. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask you a question. Does first degree assault and

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<v Speaker 1>armed criminal actions sound like a fair charge for what

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<v Speaker 1>happened here with Andrew Lester shooting Ralph y'arl in the head?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that trumped up charges? It's barely anything anything. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a slap on the wrist. Let's charge him with

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<v Speaker 1>something so that the people right. Okay, okay? Does it

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<v Speaker 1>sound like there's two different criminal justice systems operating in

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<v Speaker 1>this states?

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<v Speaker 4>Does it sound like I've said, now many times on

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<v Speaker 4>this show, the conversation that you are attempting to have,

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<v Speaker 4>it's intellectually beneath us. I need you to subscribe to

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<v Speaker 4>a higher vein of thinking and remove this very very

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<v Speaker 4>elementary idea that racism is always prevalent in these in

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<v Speaker 4>these stories.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny is that there are people who

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<v Speaker 1>actually feel that ways you have to interject race into everything. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned, I'm not talking to you, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to people that would have that weird argument

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<v Speaker 1>against you know what we're saying here again, We've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about on this show housing discrimination. It's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to listen to the show to find

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<v Speaker 1>that out. You can research it yourself. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>a tax on history, critical race theory, and educating people

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<v Speaker 1>so that we have a more empathetic and understanding society

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<v Speaker 1>and way to relate to each other. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the legacy of redlining and the economic inequality that black

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<v Speaker 1>people are enduring in this country right now. We've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the failed War on drugs and how drugs once

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<v Speaker 1>upon a time were criminalized and black people were put

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<v Speaker 1>in jail disproportionate sentences, and indeed, drugs were pushed into

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<v Speaker 1>black communities and everyone was just like just say no.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when the tables turn and it's fentanyl. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it's a health problem. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal issue. And that's not because it's s fentanyl.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, hang on, because white people are known. But

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<v Speaker 1>let me finish. We're talking about environmental racism, right. For

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<v Speaker 1>those that don't know what environmental racism is, please look

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<v Speaker 1>it up. I would love to tell you more about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about it on the show. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, please look up what environmental racism is. Find

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<v Speaker 1>out that black communities are polluted at a higher rate

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<v Speaker 1>than white communities because people in power, people that are

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<v Speaker 1>elected at local governments, who themselves are hateful. I see you, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 1>I see you North Carolina, and local governments have no

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<v Speaker 1>problem polluting black and brown communities. Okay, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the fiscal implications of the unequal disbursement of the GI

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<v Speaker 1>bill in this country. We're talking about policing. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about judicial sentencing. We're talking about the legacy of black codes.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the legacy of the New Deal being

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<v Speaker 1>unevenly distributed to America's population. White people benefited vastly more

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<v Speaker 1>than black people. This is what we're talking about. And

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<v Speaker 1>the people that people that might the people that might

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<v Speaker 1>say what you were saying earlier, real quick, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>unique to the new deal, and and many others. Absolutely, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably true for everything, whatever you want. Yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>But the folks who might say that an argument is

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<v Speaker 1>intellectually beneath me. I have all those and so many more.

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<v Speaker 1>Have we talked about. We haven't even talked about health

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<v Speaker 1>care outcomes, and how racism is cooked into the medical books,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that than indoctrination, and how a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those experiments that white people benefit from were performed on

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<v Speaker 1>black slaves and the legacy of that, and how doctors

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<v Speaker 1>think that we've taken more oxygen and have thicker skin

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<v Speaker 1>and feel less pain, and and real health care outcomes

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<v Speaker 1>that cause us to die more exist in the world right,

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<v Speaker 1>So welcome to civic sife for everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>All I'm saying ramses because I don't understand all that data,

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<v Speaker 4>statistics and facts why you guys feel the need to

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<v Speaker 4>always interject the idea of race into every discussion you have.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. To people who might say that, again,

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<v Speaker 1>Q is being funny, But to people who might say

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<v Speaker 1>that to me, not funny. People who might say that

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<v Speaker 1>to me, he was not being funny. Well, Q was

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<v Speaker 1>being annoyed.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a better way to say it, because these are

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<v Speaker 4>the exact things that people say to us, yes in

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<v Speaker 4>person and direct messages on our lives, on our Facebook

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<v Speaker 4>and our comments that we are somehow looking for the

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<v Speaker 4>racism and all these stories.

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<v Speaker 1>As if it's not blatant, it's super there, super obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not hidden overt stuff we're talking about. This

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<v Speaker 1>is in your face, overt, proud. It's written into the law.

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<v Speaker 1>It's written into the bylaws. You can see it the

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<v Speaker 1>government documents. This isn't guessing, This isn't even data. For

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<v Speaker 1>people that feel like data and alternative facts and all

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of fake news stuff, you can look at

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<v Speaker 1>the laws themselves and trace indeed the legacy of those laws.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of lass, let's get back to this criminal quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote Andrew Lester that shot this child in the head

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<v Speaker 1>and then shot him again and they headed in the shoulder,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. So guess what happened after he was hit

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<v Speaker 1>with those baby chargers. He was able to post a

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand dollars bond and it's now free again.

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<v Speaker 1>If that means, of course, that means he came up

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty thousand dollars, and right now, well as of

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<v Speaker 1>this recording, he's walking around Kansas City free as a burden.

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<v Speaker 1>He can fight his case disgustingly, I'm sure being celebrated

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<v Speaker 1>by some of his exactly now, hold on, hold on

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<v Speaker 1>a second. Did you have to take a plea deal, Marshawn? Yes, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I wanted to know. Did you did you

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<v Speaker 1>hurt anybody?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they hurt you?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean no, no, no, no, they hurt you? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the story. Okay. I just want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we are all subscribed to the same reality

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<v Speaker 1>here and that these things are happening and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>in a dream world half the time or whatever. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the same shared experience for all of us. I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to say this while we have a few

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<v Speaker 1>seconds left. Ralph y'all. He's at home now and he's healing.

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<v Speaker 1>But a couple of questions that I want folks to ponder,

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<v Speaker 1>because again we're dealing with living in the aftermath of

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<v Speaker 1>anti black violence. What will his future be like? In Marshawn?

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<v Speaker 1>These are questions that we would ask TFT sure trauma,

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<v Speaker 1>community trauma, because it doesn't just affect you, you mentioned it

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<v Speaker 1>affect your kids. I'm sure Ralph is going to have

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<v Speaker 1>this trauma with him for a long time. What does

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<v Speaker 1>this teach the country about what's okay? It's not okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And to who? Why were the charges so light? Why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't they charge him with assaulting a minor? Even? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And as always keep thinking what if Ralph was white

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<v Speaker 1>and Andrew Lester was black? And now it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>the Way Black History Fact. There's a Way Black History

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Today we are reading from the Hockeywriters dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I will begin in January twenty twenty, Canada Post released

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<v Speaker 1>a special stamp and first day cover featuring what is

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<v Speaker 1>undoubtedly Hockey's greatest secret. The stamp features teams and artwork

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<v Speaker 1>of players from the Colored Hockey League. Between eighteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five and the early nineteen thirties, all black ice hockey

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the Maritimes thrilled mixed audiences and news reporters

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<v Speaker 1>alike as they challenged each other to exciting matches and

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<v Speaker 1>buyed for the ultimate prize, The Colored Hockey Championship, created

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<v Speaker 1>as a means of drawing more men church and strengthening

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<v Speaker 1>their religious path. All Black hockey also served to dispel

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<v Speaker 1>myths about black people's abilities. With their fast paced, physical

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<v Speaker 1>games and down to the ice style of goaltending, the

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<v Speaker 1>players made real contributions to the game. While winning on

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<v Speaker 1>the ice was a moment to celebrate, the greater triumph

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<v Speaker 1>was the pride experienced by black communities across the region.

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<v Speaker 1>Hockey fans may know of the Montreal Wanderers, the Ottawa

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<v Speaker 1>Silver Seven, the Winnipeg Victorias, and the Vancouver Millionaires, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the Seattle Metropolitans and some of the teams

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<v Speaker 1>from the early years of the Stanley Cup, but very

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<v Speaker 1>few have ever heard of the Africville seasides the Halifax

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<v Speaker 1>Eurekas and the Halifax Stanley who were the original teams

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<v Speaker 1>that formed Canada's first organized hockey league, the Colored Hockey

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<v Speaker 1>League more than a century ago. Hockey played a huge

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<v Speaker 1>role in Canadian black culture on the East Coast. The

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<v Speaker 1>black leaders of the day recognized it, and they used

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<v Speaker 1>hockey as a vehicle for advancement. The Colored Hockey League

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<v Speaker 1>has perhaps the most intriguing history of any sports league

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<v Speaker 1>in North American history. It was formed in eighteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 1>predating the formation of the NHL by more than twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>The league also predates the Negro Basketball League sorry Negro

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball League in the United States. What makes it interesting

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<v Speaker 1>is that the league was actually formed by the Baptist Church.

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<v Speaker 1>The mandate of the league was to use hockey as

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<v Speaker 1>a way of advancing young black men to a level

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<v Speaker 1>equal to their white brethren through a game that would

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<v Speaker 1>instill the qualities of leadership, community organization, pride, teamwork, and determination.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Sylvester Williams and brother James Borden were two of

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<v Speaker 1>the visionaries who guided the formation of the league. They

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<v Speaker 1>were both churchmen who saw the social and political importance

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<v Speaker 1>of using hockey to encourage advancement of black men. They

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<v Speaker 1>also saw it as a way to attract young men

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<v Speaker 1>in families to churches that were suffering from stagnating attendance.

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<v Speaker 1>Williams's Cornwallis Baptist Church in Halifax would form two teams,

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<v Speaker 1>the Halifax Stanley and the Halifax Eurekas. Across the Harbor

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<v Speaker 1>Bordon would form the Dartmouth Jubileef from his Lake Baptist Church.

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<v Speaker 1>The league was operated by the church, making it unique

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<v Speaker 1>in North American history. The official rule book was the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>First ever colored hockey league game was played on February

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, eighteen ninety five, at the Dartmouth Curling Rink,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Eurekas and Jubilees skated to a one to

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<v Speaker 1>one tie. The league received press and coverage from the

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<v Speaker 1>Acadian Recorder, which was one of three Halifax newspapers of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, and it was Baptist owned. The Recorder reported

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<v Speaker 1>that the game featured a much more physical style of

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<v Speaker 1>play than the more gentlemanly white teams would play, as

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<v Speaker 1>players would partake in body checking and cross counters short punches.

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<v Speaker 1>The Recorder also reported that through the first season, ladies

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<v Speaker 1>would turn out in full force for the games, cheering loudly.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no nets and curling stones were used as posts.

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<v Speaker 1>The star of the Jubilees was their goalie, Henry Brace's

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin and an ice cutter by trade. Franklin revolutionized his

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<v Speaker 1>position as he was the first goalie who reportedly went

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<v Speaker 1>down on the ice to make saves in the game's history.

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin's butterfly style was eventually made popular by goalies like

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Hall and Patrick Roy. Another innovation of the Colored

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<v Speaker 1>Hockey League was the slap shot. It may have been

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<v Speaker 1>made famous by Bernie Boom, Boom, Geffron and Bobby Hull,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was Colored Hockey League star Eddie Martin who

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<v Speaker 1>invented it. The Stanley would win the first championship, while

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<v Speaker 1>the Eurekas would win the next five. The season was short,

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<v Speaker 1>usually running from late January to early Marches. Artificial ice

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<v Speaker 1>was not available in the Maritimes. The league also had

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<v Speaker 1>to take whatever ice times were available as they had

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<v Speaker 1>to work around the schedules of the white teams and leagues. Regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>attendance was strong. Some playoffs and championship games drew more

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<v Speaker 1>than a thousand spectators. The caliber of play was considered

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<v Speaker 1>by many to be on par with the scene in

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<v Speaker 1>the best white leagues. Unfortunately, as the league was striving,

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<v Speaker 1>politics and racism became an obstacle. Expanded rail service onto

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<v Speaker 1>the Port of Halifax led to the annexation of land

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<v Speaker 1>and from many families in Africville, the black community in Halifax.

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<v Speaker 1>A five year legal battle ensued, and many rink owners

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<v Speaker 1>refused to rent ice time to the league or any

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<v Speaker 1>of its teams. Under pressure from municipal and provincial officials,

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<v Speaker 1>the local newspapers stopped covering the league. There are no

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper accounts of any Colored Hockey League play from nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eleven to nineteen twenty, but in nineteen twenty one league

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<v Speaker 1>resurfaced in the public eye. Three teams, the Victorias, the

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<v Speaker 1>Seasides and the Halifax all Stars formed a three league team.

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<v Speaker 1>The league was not strong, not as strong as it

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<v Speaker 1>was in its prime in the nineteen thirties. The league

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<v Speaker 1>would fade away. Many black families left the economical repression

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<v Speaker 1>they suffered in Nova Scotia for the greener pastors of Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>Although new teams like the Affricville Brown Bombers, Halifax Diamonds

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<v Speaker 1>and Halifax Wizards, New Glasgow speed Boys and Trudio Cheeks

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<v Speaker 1>would emerge, the league was gone and forgotten. By the

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<v Speaker 1>time World War II had begun. Little history on this

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<v Speaker 1>hockey league, which is why Canada's post twenty twenty Colored

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<v Speaker 1>Hockey League stamp series is so significant. In two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and four, hockey researchers Darryl George Frosty researched a book

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<v Speaker 1>entitled Black Ice, The Lost History of the Colored Hockey

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<v Speaker 1>League in the Maritimes eighteen ninety five to nineteen twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hockey Hall of Fame also has an exhibit that

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<v Speaker 1>includes information on the Colored Hockey League. The Changing Face

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<v Speaker 1>of Hockey Diversity in Our Game is a permanent exhibit

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<v Speaker 1>that brings to light the challenges faced by marginalized people

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<v Speaker 1>across in North America in their struggle for societal sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>for social equity and acceptance in the great Game of hockey.

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<v Speaker 1>The display plays homage to the pioneers who confronted discrimination

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<v Speaker 1>from the hockey world. Through their perseverance, talent, and courage,

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<v Speaker 1>they have enriched the cultural landscape of hockey and established

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<v Speaker 1>a tangible forum in which to fight prejudices still faced

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<v Speaker 1>by many, both in hockey and in life. To date,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been nearly one hundred black players to lace

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<v Speaker 1>up and play in the NHL. Some like Ore have

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<v Speaker 1>been pioneers, Some like Rant Ferr, have been Stanley Cup Champions.

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<v Speaker 1>Some like Jerome Iginla, have become superstars. They have all

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<v Speaker 1>become household names to hockey fans. Obviously I'm not sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is a cool story and it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>players and teams in the Colored Hockey League to become

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<v Speaker 1>widely known in the hockey world as well. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to shout out the Hockeywriters dot Com for providing

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<v Speaker 1>us with the source material for that something that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know. Normally, I throw all the sports stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>Q because he knows a little bit about that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know if hockey would be something that you

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<v Speaker 1>would know any more about than me. But I still

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<v Speaker 1>think it's cool because obviously we need to know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have known it otherwise. Yeah, it's it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>No matter what type of history we're talking about, be

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<v Speaker 4>it sports, be it climate, be it ego, be it community,

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<v Speaker 4>be it whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>There's humps of racism. It out fait everywhere at good time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not interjected by us actually in the history. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>Ramses used to remind our audience that Google was free.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it on his behalf today. Appreciate thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's going to do it for us here on

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<v Speaker 1>Civic Cipher. So once again, thank you for tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>and I am your house. Rams's jaw and I am

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<v Speaker 1>still qwar. A big shout out to our guest Marshawn Neely.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you again, brother, all right, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to give you guys your flowers.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, if no one else does.

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