1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:31,239 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. 2 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:33,719 Speaker 2: Tune in is Matt Smith and Paul Perillo offer in 3 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:36,439 Speaker 2: depth interviews with some of the greatest players and coaches 4 00:00:36,439 --> 00:00:37,759 Speaker 2: in New England Patriots history. 5 00:00:37,839 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall of Fame, 6 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: Mike Rabol. 7 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 8 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 9 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 10 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: coy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 11 00:00:50,519 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: but number one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. 12 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:56,079 Speaker 2: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. Search 13 00:00:56,119 --> 00:00:58,519 Speaker 2: for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 14 00:01:00,239 --> 00:01:03,399 Speaker 1: Christian, just did you just kind of take us through 15 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 1: that that final drive and what was going through you 16 00:01:06,679 --> 00:01:08,518 Speaker 1: guys minds as you're trying to get off the field 17 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 1: there and then ultimately they end up scoring and getting 18 00:01:10,639 --> 00:01:11,519 Speaker 1: the two point conversion. 19 00:01:11,639 --> 00:01:13,878 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we were obviously trying to get the stop. 20 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:19,238 Speaker 3: We weren't We weren't able to do it. You know, 21 00:01:19,279 --> 00:01:23,878 Speaker 3: we we gotta be better as a defense in times 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:29,078 Speaker 3: like that. I mean, props to you know, the coach 23 00:01:29,199 --> 00:01:35,598 Speaker 3: they e to. Uh yeah, Christian, can you just take 24 00:01:35,639 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 3: us through the interception and what you saw in that play, Yeah, 25 00:01:40,639 --> 00:01:42,999 Speaker 3: it was. It was a main coverage. I mean I 26 00:01:43,039 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: was just man on man and he ran the same 27 00:01:45,479 --> 00:01:50,799 Speaker 3: route earlier, so I saw it, trusted my instincts and 28 00:01:50,839 --> 00:01:52,399 Speaker 3: went and went and made the play. 29 00:01:53,279 --> 00:01:57,319 Speaker 4: Chris ran on the left on that final drive. Obviously, 30 00:01:57,319 --> 00:01:59,479 Speaker 4: you guys made a ton of big plays, but not 31 00:01:59,879 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 4: enough at the goal line. How do you kind of 32 00:02:01,639 --> 00:02:05,599 Speaker 4: categorize that drive and kind of defense as a whole 33 00:02:05,679 --> 00:02:10,478 Speaker 4: today and what you were able to accomplish. 34 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:11,678 Speaker 3: It just wasn't good enough. I mean, like you said, 35 00:02:11,719 --> 00:02:15,559 Speaker 3: we made plays, but you know they made more plays. 36 00:02:16,559 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: So I mean, we gotta we gotta be able. Like 37 00:02:18,918 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 3: I said earlier, we gotta be able to you know, 38 00:02:22,559 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 3: hold it down for the offense when we get out 39 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: there with the game on our back, we gotta we 40 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:30,759 Speaker 3: gotta be better. I mean, we'll get in the film room, 41 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 3: we'll get fixed, and you know, take this bye week, 42 00:02:35,199 --> 00:02:43,439 Speaker 3: you know, recover, get right mentally, and move on to Cardinals. Wow. 43 00:02:43,519 --> 00:02:44,719 Speaker 5: Question, Dan rode to the back. 44 00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:47,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you about the bye week. How important 45 00:02:47,359 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: is it to you guys right now to kind of 46 00:02:48,719 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: catch your breath how's your arm as well? And it 47 00:02:51,119 --> 00:02:53,559 Speaker 1: looked like you guys were close many times in that 48 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:56,479 Speaker 1: final drive when you kind of separate yourself from it. 49 00:02:56,479 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: How how much close do you think you guys are 50 00:02:58,119 --> 00:03:01,439 Speaker 1: getting it and making some plays just close enough, but 51 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,198 Speaker 1: certainly not just getting it done. 52 00:03:04,439 --> 00:03:05,078 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean. 53 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:07,198 Speaker 6: Bye week's big. 54 00:03:07,239 --> 00:03:10,879 Speaker 3: I mean it's it's big for everybody, you know, however 55 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:14,199 Speaker 3: you choose to spend it, you know, be able to 56 00:03:14,719 --> 00:03:19,279 Speaker 3: mentally get back into the right head space. But then 57 00:03:19,319 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 3: I mean as a defense, we, like I said, we've 58 00:03:21,519 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: got to be better. You know, it's it's it's too 59 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:27,479 Speaker 3: late in the season to be saying it's it. 60 00:03:27,559 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 5: We're close. 61 00:03:28,279 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: We we gotta we gotta be able to you know, 62 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:32,879 Speaker 3: make them make those plays and finished out the game. 63 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:38,799 Speaker 1: You appreciate it. Hunter, First off, how you feeling, uh 64 00:03:39,439 --> 00:03:41,479 Speaker 1: number one? You took a pretty good shot there and 65 00:03:41,479 --> 00:03:43,879 Speaker 1: and just how how frustrating was it? You know, the 66 00:03:43,919 --> 00:03:45,759 Speaker 1: game of football You've been around a long time. Just 67 00:03:45,799 --> 00:03:48,279 Speaker 1: the babble and then the interception down to the near 68 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:49,039 Speaker 1: the goal line. 69 00:03:49,519 --> 00:03:53,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm feeling on guy's just play I gotta make 70 00:03:53,359 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 5: and uh. 71 00:03:55,639 --> 00:04:01,319 Speaker 7: Tell me, uh we there was a play against the 72 00:04:01,399 --> 00:04:05,559 Speaker 7: Jets where Drake took a hit to the helmet, didn't 73 00:04:05,559 --> 00:04:09,039 Speaker 7: call flag, penalty wasn't called on that sort of a 74 00:04:09,079 --> 00:04:11,439 Speaker 7: similar play on you get hit in the helmet, crowned 75 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:13,639 Speaker 7: in the head, bounce off another guy's helmet, no flag. 76 00:04:14,919 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 7: Do you feel like there's consistency on the way that 77 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:19,759 Speaker 7: officials are calling the hits of the head right now 78 00:04:19,759 --> 00:04:20,319 Speaker 7: in the NFL? 79 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, it's football, man, I'm gonna take hits. 80 00:04:23,879 --> 00:04:26,399 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say it was a bad hit or anything. 81 00:04:26,438 --> 00:04:28,199 Speaker 5: I mean, his football, That's what I signed up for. 82 00:04:29,479 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 6: Hunter, Just how would you describe the emotions of the 83 00:04:32,159 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 6: team the way the game ended? 84 00:04:33,799 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 5: It's just hard put a lot into this and just 85 00:04:38,438 --> 00:04:42,319 Speaker 5: I feel like we emptied the tank and just got 86 00:04:42,359 --> 00:04:48,078 Speaker 5: beat today. Did some just had too many mistakes? 87 00:04:48,159 --> 00:04:51,999 Speaker 6: Just the red zone is obviously a story here. What 88 00:04:52,039 --> 00:04:54,999 Speaker 6: are you any sense coming off the field where. 89 00:04:54,759 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 5: There's just I mean, I think I can look at 90 00:04:56,958 --> 00:04:58,439 Speaker 5: myself in the mirror. I mean, I gotta be better 91 00:04:58,479 --> 00:05:00,199 Speaker 5: down there. I got to run better out so I 92 00:05:00,239 --> 00:05:02,998 Speaker 5: got a block better. So I think I can just 93 00:05:02,999 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 5: speak for myself. I think we all just have to 94 00:05:06,078 --> 00:05:08,439 Speaker 5: be better. And I mean Obviously that's a story of 95 00:05:08,438 --> 00:05:10,319 Speaker 5: the game. We're having to move the football a lot, 96 00:05:10,719 --> 00:05:13,878 Speaker 5: just couldn't finish drives. 97 00:05:14,558 --> 00:05:15,878 Speaker 1: You did to kind of follow that up up for 98 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: us rightning that, you guys, I think four point undred 99 00:05:18,039 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: and twenty two total yards, two hundred of the ground. 100 00:05:20,119 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: You feel like you're making, you know, getting there as 101 00:05:22,519 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: an offense. It looks like Drake keeps getting better better 102 00:05:24,719 --> 00:05:25,558 Speaker 1: as every week. 103 00:05:25,719 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 5: Yeah sure, I mean, obviously we're continuing to get better, 104 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 5: but obviously it's just not good enough for Drives. 105 00:05:33,799 --> 00:05:37,238 Speaker 1: Antonio. Kind of a bittersweet day. You guys had a 106 00:05:37,239 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: lot of nice things on offense. You had your first 107 00:05:39,799 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: touchdown of the season. Was that matching with the emotion 108 00:05:43,479 --> 00:05:46,399 Speaker 1: of the final final series final couple of minutes where 109 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: you end up losing the game? 110 00:05:48,119 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 4: Uh? 111 00:05:48,318 --> 00:05:49,079 Speaker 6: Sweet and sour? 112 00:05:49,438 --> 00:05:49,558 Speaker 4: Uh? 113 00:05:50,239 --> 00:05:52,038 Speaker 8: You know, I feel like everybody on both sides of 114 00:05:52,078 --> 00:05:55,678 Speaker 8: the ball fought, fought really hard. You know, it shows 115 00:05:55,719 --> 00:05:58,439 Speaker 8: what we're capable of. Well, you know, that's kind of 116 00:05:58,438 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 8: been a story all season at this point, but you know, 117 00:06:01,438 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 8: I'm proud of the guys for continuing to fight and 118 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:05,878 Speaker 8: keep playing how we are. We just got to fix 119 00:06:05,919 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 8: the small stuff. That's kind of beating ourselves. 120 00:06:10,239 --> 00:06:14,319 Speaker 6: In the front the way the game ended. Just how 121 00:06:14,359 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 6: would you describe the emotions of the guys in the 122 00:06:16,359 --> 00:06:19,718 Speaker 6: locker room and yourself. It's tough. 123 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,318 Speaker 8: You never want to hold your head down too long. 124 00:06:22,399 --> 00:06:26,519 Speaker 8: But I mean, like I said, it's tough. So you know, 125 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:28,999 Speaker 8: we feel the emotion. You can see it a little bit. 126 00:06:29,039 --> 00:06:32,319 Speaker 8: But we do continue to fight. We continue to practice hard. 127 00:06:33,119 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 8: You know, we're trying to take a step in the 128 00:06:34,799 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 8: right direction. But you know, when when things happen like that, 129 00:06:37,678 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 8: it's it's hard. So you know, we all felt that one. 130 00:06:39,958 --> 00:06:41,438 Speaker 8: It's not a great feeling right now. 131 00:06:42,919 --> 00:06:46,758 Speaker 9: Right we're you could argue this offensively is sort of 132 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 9: what you wanna be a little balance, uh the t 133 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:54,079 Speaker 9: the backs balance, Uh Drake looked good. Still not enough, 134 00:06:55,078 --> 00:06:57,838 Speaker 9: But can you talk about the growth of the offense 135 00:06:57,919 --> 00:07:00,238 Speaker 9: that what this offense potentially could do. 136 00:07:01,438 --> 00:07:03,399 Speaker 8: Just weekend and week out, just continue to take a 137 00:07:03,438 --> 00:07:03,999 Speaker 8: step forward. 138 00:07:04,359 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 5: Uh Uh. 139 00:07:05,919 --> 00:07:07,438 Speaker 8: I feel like it's at the point where like we'll 140 00:07:07,479 --> 00:07:08,879 Speaker 8: go back one week and then you know, we're a 141 00:07:08,879 --> 00:07:11,439 Speaker 8: showcase where we're we're capable of So I feel like 142 00:07:11,479 --> 00:07:14,199 Speaker 8: once we get more consistent throughout the weeks, that's when 143 00:07:14,199 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 8: it just started to really show, you know, having continuous 144 00:07:16,679 --> 00:07:20,519 Speaker 8: games like the uh one we had today. 145 00:07:20,958 --> 00:07:24,159 Speaker 7: Uh. You mentioned earlier the sort of like recurring theme 146 00:07:24,359 --> 00:07:26,879 Speaker 7: of always promising, but we didn't quite close it out. 147 00:07:27,239 --> 00:07:29,839 Speaker 7: Do you feel like this team is getting closer to 148 00:07:29,919 --> 00:07:32,479 Speaker 7: that point to where you're gonna get to start closing 149 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:32,879 Speaker 7: things out. 150 00:07:33,919 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 8: I was about to say it's the back end of 151 00:07:35,119 --> 00:07:38,518 Speaker 8: the season. Yeah, you know, early in the season you 152 00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:40,719 Speaker 8: can you can kind of say that, but we're at 153 00:07:40,719 --> 00:07:42,359 Speaker 8: the point to where, like it has to be fixed. 154 00:07:42,599 --> 00:07:46,439 Speaker 8: It's no more you know, where we almost got it's 155 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 8: I think we got four more games left, so you know, 156 00:07:49,679 --> 00:07:51,319 Speaker 8: of course we see the growth, we see the positive 157 00:07:51,359 --> 00:07:53,439 Speaker 8: things we're doing, but at this point it's, you know, 158 00:07:53,239 --> 00:07:54,559 Speaker 8: we need to get it fixed and we need to 159 00:07:54,599 --> 00:07:55,279 Speaker 8: find a way to win. 160 00:07:57,799 --> 00:07:59,799 Speaker 6: Antonio, I know you weren't obviously in the field during 161 00:07:59,799 --> 00:08:01,439 Speaker 6: this part of the game, but what did you think 162 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:03,359 Speaker 6: of the Cult's decision to go for two at the 163 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 6: end there to win the game? 164 00:08:05,078 --> 00:08:08,398 Speaker 8: Shit, I mean, they wanted to win, you know, and 165 00:08:08,439 --> 00:08:10,999 Speaker 8: they went for I feel like, as a team, if 166 00:08:10,999 --> 00:08:13,199 Speaker 8: it was in that situation, you know, some guys would 167 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:14,799 Speaker 8: have wanted to go for some guys would have wanted 168 00:08:14,839 --> 00:08:18,879 Speaker 8: to tie the game. So you know, it's never just 169 00:08:18,958 --> 00:08:20,879 Speaker 8: one decision right there. I feel like so many people 170 00:08:20,958 --> 00:08:23,158 Speaker 8: have so many opinions on that right there. So you 171 00:08:23,239 --> 00:08:25,279 Speaker 8: got fifty percent saying go for you got fifty percent 172 00:08:25,319 --> 00:08:27,319 Speaker 8: saying not to. You go for it, you get it. 173 00:08:27,439 --> 00:08:30,719 Speaker 8: Everybody happy you go for it, you don't, it's your fasse. Uh, 174 00:08:30,999 --> 00:08:32,759 Speaker 8: that right there is a tough one. But that's what 175 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:34,159 Speaker 8: they call him, and that's what they did. 176 00:08:35,879 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 9: Back on the offense, you can you talk about your 177 00:08:39,239 --> 00:08:43,238 Speaker 9: relationship with Romande and you're both different style backs, but 178 00:08:43,239 --> 00:08:45,799 Speaker 9: but when you guys are both going these styles can 179 00:08:45,958 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 9: both mash and like I said, you did everything today 180 00:08:48,599 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 9: except when can you talk about your relationship with Romande? 181 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:53,479 Speaker 9: And in this offense? 182 00:08:53,719 --> 00:08:57,718 Speaker 8: Uh, Ramandre is a very good back. I've been learning 183 00:08:57,759 --> 00:09:00,039 Speaker 8: a lot, especially I think his saying in your move 184 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:01,759 Speaker 8: would probably be the stiff form. I think he still 185 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:04,838 Speaker 8: formed somebody every play, So I've been like correlating that 186 00:09:05,199 --> 00:09:07,119 Speaker 8: in my game, and uh, if you look at the 187 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 8: last two games, I've been using a few still forms. 188 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 8: So you know, just just learning from him, uh, and 189 00:09:12,839 --> 00:09:15,239 Speaker 8: then just trying to be that the back that kind 190 00:09:15,239 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 8: of when he's out, and I mean, you know, it's 191 00:09:17,199 --> 00:09:20,039 Speaker 8: no fall off, and like I told some people, like 192 00:09:20,079 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 8: I feel like I sold myself short at the beginning 193 00:09:22,239 --> 00:09:25,039 Speaker 8: of the season, but it's finally coming together for me. 194 00:09:25,119 --> 00:09:27,279 Speaker 8: And you know, I'm just gonna keep continuing to be consistent, 195 00:09:27,919 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 8: do my part, just continue to play within a row. 196 00:09:32,839 --> 00:09:33,279 Speaker 7: For sure. 197 00:09:33,479 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 8: You have the Day. 198 00:09:36,599 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: Patriots Playbook. Join John Rook as he brings you all 199 00:09:39,479 --> 00:09:42,838 Speaker 2: the latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 200 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:45,919 Speaker 2: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent Beat 201 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:47,999 Speaker 2: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 202 00:09:47,999 --> 00:09:48,639 Speaker 2: state of the team. 203 00:09:48,719 --> 00:09:51,479 Speaker 4: But where the Patriots are concerned, Let's just get one 204 00:09:51,519 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 4: thing done and let's get it done right and then. 205 00:09:54,199 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 2: We can worry about versatility. 206 00:09:55,839 --> 00:09:57,039 Speaker 5: Am I lying to anybody here? 207 00:09:57,279 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 3: Let's just get one thing done. 208 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 5: Let's get one thing done right, and then we can 209 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 5: move along. 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