1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Why was a Washington dad 2 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: gunned down? Shot nine times? The answer is going to 3 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: surprise you. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace with me an 4 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: all star panel to break it down and put it 5 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: back together again. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags, 6 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: the host of Live with Doctor Wendy on KCBQ Radio. 7 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: At Wendy Patrick PhD dot com. Cheryl McCollum, forensics expert 8 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: and director of the Cold Case Research Institute. Doctor Bethany Marshall, 9 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: psychoanist joining us from Beverly Hills. You can find it 10 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Joseph's Got Morgan, Professor Forensics, 11 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My Feet on 12 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: Amazon Now. Host a hit series on the True Crime Network, 13 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: Poisonous Liaisons, But First. Nicole Aparton Crime Online dot Com 14 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: investigative reporter Nicole Take a Listen to Alison Grande k 15 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: I R O seven. On July tenth, Lee was walking 16 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: to his car at the overlook at Lake Mount Apartments 17 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: when he heard the first shot, then a second. That 18 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: bullet had hit my right arm, and then I looked 19 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: to my right, and I saw this guy running to 20 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: me with the gun still firing too. Lee got to 21 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: his car and tried to protect his head and chest. 22 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: I was thinking, oh my god, I'm dead. You know, 23 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: he's standing right over me with the gun point you're 24 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: right at me. After more gunshots, the bullets finally ran out, 25 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: and Lee lived so amazingly after taking nine bullets. And 26 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: remember that twelve bullets in the twelve entry exit wounds 27 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: you're hearing include some of those nine. Exactly what are 28 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: they saying, Joe Scott Morgan. They're saying that these rounds 29 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: literally passed through this guy's body. Nancy, there's twelve entrants 30 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: and exit wounds, and just imagine this for a second, 31 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: that you're being shot while someone's advancing on you and 32 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: no major organ systems are hit, nothing, but this guy 33 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: is in serious, serious pain because of so much muscular 34 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: damage and neurodamage as well. I mean, the guy is 35 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: bleeding out right there on the pavement with all of 36 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: those entrances and exit wounds to use. Cheryl McCollum, director 37 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: of the Coldcase Research Institute, forensics expert, it's gotta be 38 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: csize dream scene, dream crime scene. Why well, Nancy, You've 39 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: got a lot of physical evidence. You're going to have 40 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: shellcase scenes. You're going to have the fact that they 41 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: had to use three tourniquets, So again, three tourniquets tells 42 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: you the amount of bleeding. So you're going to have 43 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: the exact position where the shooter was from where he 44 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: was cowarding and hiding and approaching the victim. You're going 45 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: to have surveillance video, hopefully from the apartment complex. You 46 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: may even have video from you know, flock cameras or 47 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: ring doorbells of them coming in or coming out. You're 48 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of evidence in a very small 49 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: amount of space. Now the question will be will it 50 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: be handled properly? This is out in the open and 51 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: a parking lot of an apartment complex. How quickly can 52 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: that scene become contaminated? To Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor author 53 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: I've read and flags. You know, it's very rare that 54 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: you get that much forensic evidence. But think about it. 55 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: You get a bullet, You get a bullet, a showcasing 56 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: that does not lead you to the killer. It's going 57 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: to take detective work, no doubt. Not only does it 58 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: take detective work, but when you do have a victim that, 59 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: thank god, survives the injury, sometimes they're the best source 60 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: of information. But this crime scene was a forensic dream. 61 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: But there were so much evidence. It was just rich 62 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: and the kind of trails that investigators can then follow 63 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: to develop leads, even things as simple as placement of showcasing, 64 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: types of bullets, footprints, track marks, all the kinds of 65 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: things that thankfully were collected before they were contaminated. That 66 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: is going to tell a story in and of itself, 67 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: in addition to any live witness testimony. And it's so 68 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: important because this guy sustaining nine to twelve bullet wounds, 69 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: you've got to preserve the same in case the victims 70 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: should then die. To doctor Bethany Marshal, imagine that crouch 71 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: down and a gun and that you don't recognize coming 72 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: closer and closer and closer and targeting you. There's no rape, 73 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: there's no theft. It's not a car jackie to take 74 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: your car, and seemingly it's like out of a horror movie. 75 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: The guy gets closer and closer to you and keep shooting. Nancy, 76 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: I cannot imagine how traumatic and unimaginable undigestible. That experience 77 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: would have been. I know I'm always talking about trauma, 78 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: but in this case, it's this trauma is a sudden, 79 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: unanticipated event for which there's no preparation, there's no learning, 80 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: nothing prepares the human mind to integrate something like this. 81 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: And you heard him say on air, I thought I'm dead. 82 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: Can you imagine in a moment, thinking that you are 83 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: going to die? I had it happened to me once. 84 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: I was buried live in a landslide. I was doing 85 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: a mission project in Mexico, and I remember thinking I'm dead. 86 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: That's it. I'll never have children, I'll never get married. 87 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: It is the most surreal experience because you just know 88 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: it's going to happen. It's a certainty. I was rescued, 89 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: of course, and this man fortunately sustained no organ damage 90 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: and that's why he lived. Still, the possibility of bleeding 91 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: out the mind of the assassin to shoot to multiple times, 92 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: leaving line there on the pavement alone and bleeding shooting 93 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: until they run out of bullets. I mean, Cheryl mccollumb, 94 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: it sounds like somebody that's saying one too many action 95 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: movies or spy thrillers where you see the shoot until 96 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: they run out of bullets. Nancy, that takes Tom as well. 97 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: A lot of times if you have like a drive 98 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: by shooting, they're driving and moving and they get out 99 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: of there. This person continued to go toward the victim 100 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: in this really sinister way to make sure this person 101 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: was dead, stood right over them and continued to shoot. 102 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: And Cheryl will call them. The fact that I just 103 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: mentioned that there's no sex attack, there's no robbery, there's 104 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: no car theft, nothing. The two had not been in 105 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: a previous altercation. Victim didn't even recognize the guy. That 106 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: tells me a lot about who is the perp. It 107 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: tells you a whole lot. Especially it appears that there 108 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: was one target and one target only, and this person 109 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: was trying their best to make sure this victim did 110 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: not survive. To Nicole Pardon joining me Crime online dot 111 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter, what can you tell me about the incident? 112 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: When this dad is seemingly targeted out in a parking lot, 113 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: how did it happen? So? Barren Lee, forty eight years old, 114 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: gets up to start his day normal routine. He's a 115 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: sales manager at a local car dealership, grabbed his car keys, 116 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: heads out of his apartment, walks to the car, and 117 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: he said, he heard a pop, a crack. He thought 118 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: it was a window breaking. He looked at his left 119 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: and didn't see anything. He looks to the right and 120 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: he sees a gunman standing over him. And he said, 121 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: at that moment, his keys fell from his right hand 122 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: because he had been shot in the right arm. So 123 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: he's scurrying on the ground trying to get his keys 124 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: to unlock the car door so that he can take 125 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: cover behind the car door. Meanwhile, the gunman standing over 126 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: him continues at close range the fire shots at him. 127 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, he just brought up something very interesting to me, 128 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: the fact that this happened first thing in the morning. 129 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: You know, cherylm gonna call him. You and I've worked 130 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: a lot of crime scenes, a lot of homicide scenes, 131 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: and you don't normally say murders going down at eight am. 132 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: It's just a fact. It's a fact. And in an 133 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: apartment complex there's usually a lot of movement. Also, kids 134 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: are back in school. There could have been a children around. 135 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: He could have had his own children with him taking 136 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,479 Speaker 1: them to school. I mean, it's just a really unusual situation. 137 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace. Why is a dad the 138 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: target of a hitman? That's what we're talking about right now. 139 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: I'll take a listen to this. The vicious shooting of 140 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: Baron Lee is not the kind of case Bellevue PDC's often. 141 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: What happened to Lee on the morning of July tenth 142 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: is he walked out his front door to head to 143 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: work is what nightmares are made of. As he walked 144 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: to his car, he was confronted by an assailant that 145 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: he didn't recognize. The assailant shot him about eight or 146 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: nine times. The victim fell to the ground. The suspects 147 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: stood over him and continued to fire. Incredibly, he lived. 148 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: That was our friend Olivia Levoy's thirteen Fox Seattle. But 149 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: listen to our friends at Inside Edition. I took a 150 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: shot behind my right leg and that's when I fell 151 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: to the ground, pulled myself behind the car door. He 152 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: comes around the door and he's standing over me at 153 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: point blank range. Fired the first shot without looking and 154 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: went in my chest. Here he shot me in the leg, 155 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: in the hip, and twice in the arm until the 156 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: clip emptied. Did you think this was a random attack 157 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: or did you think it was something else, absolutely not. 158 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: I mean from the get go, I just was wondering 159 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: who was that. So we're learning more and more about 160 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: the shooting of a young dad, a dad who as 161 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: a child expecting him to be there after school. But 162 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: that's not what the assailant had in mind. Nine to 163 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: twelve gunshot, bullets are fired, and this one person and 164 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: here we hear even more to Dr Bethany Marshall's psychoanast 165 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: joining me out of Beverly yields. The dad tries to 166 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: crawl away, and the assailant follows him around the car 167 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: and keeps shooting. I mean, this is not an intended yet, 168 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, Nancy. This perpetrator wanted 169 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: this dad dead. He wanted him dead. He was so 170 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: determined to do it. But even if it was a 171 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: murder for higher plot, I hit job. The perpetrator didn't 172 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: even have enough bullets to carry out the job correctly. Well, 173 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: hold on, I think he had enough bullet, Cheryl McCollum, 174 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: I think he just didn't know what he was doing. 175 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: Nine bullets that's not enough, or twelve bullets, I mean, 176 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: one bullet could do the shrink should only take one. 177 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: It only take one. He was This was just a 178 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: hand to God moment, is all I can tell you. 179 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: This man survived by the grace of God, not anything 180 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: this potential killer did. I'll tell you that. I mean, 181 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: it's really rare to justice. Guy Morgan outside, I guess 182 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: a combat situation where somebody that sustains nine bullets lives. Yeah, yeah, 183 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: it is Nancy. And you would think that, you know, 184 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: in some of that they'd hit the jackpot relative to 185 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, a fatal entry and exit. You know, this 186 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: tells me a lot about the person that did this. 187 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: If this was a professional hit, if this was somebody 188 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: that was tasked with this job. Professional killers, they use 189 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: the least amount of deadly force as possible because they 190 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: understand that something that Mack and I both understand, and 191 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: that is we want to leave as little evidence of 192 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: our existence behind. This guy goes through an entire magazine 193 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: of of of projectiles and doesn't score a fatal hit 194 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: under this whole thing, and it's very You got the 195 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: guy on the ground crawling. They shot at me point 196 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: blank range. Another point to what Joseph's got. Morgan is 197 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: saying Cheryl mccollin, director Coalcase Research Institute. I remember you 198 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: remember the dad says, I heard a pop. Well, a 199 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: professional killer, of course, is going to be using a silencer. 200 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: I remember the first time I saw a silencer. I 201 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: was doing a search and to a luxury high rise. 202 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: Elton John used to live beside it in the city 203 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: of Atlanta, and we went into this drug lord's luxury 204 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: apartment and with pursuing to warrant. Of course, I saw 205 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: a silencer, and I knew that it was something related 206 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: to a weapon. And I didn't tell, of course, and said, 207 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: what is that exactly? That's a first time I had 208 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: seen a silencer in real life, not a picture of one, 209 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: not a description of one, but seeing one. So you 210 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: hear the The dad says, I heard a pop. This 211 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: clearly is an assassin. The dad is clearly the target. 212 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: He clearly wants the guy dead. But he's not a pro, right, 213 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: And you can tell he's not a pro by several ways. 214 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: One the fact that he did to hear the pop, 215 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: meaning he missed. A professional person would have hit you 216 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: from the neck up. It would have been a kill shot. 217 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: It would have been done. You would have never heard anything. 218 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: You would have been dead before you hit the ground. 219 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: So not only did he miss the first shot, he 220 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: fired too many shot, He stayed there too long, he 221 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: left too much evidence. He got out and walked, which 222 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: means that potential witnesses more time on video, You're going 223 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: to give people time to see the getaway car. He 224 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: made so many any mistakes here doesn't look like even 225 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: Nudi was doing. You know, I'm thinking about the case 226 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: of Susan Burman. You remember her. I'm sure she was 227 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: the longtime friend of they let me just say Star 228 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: of jinxt and she suffered I think a single bullet 229 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: wound to the head and she was killed. Of course 230 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Robert Durst. The difference between that murder 231 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: of Susan Burman and this murder is astounding. Cheryl McCollum, 232 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: It's astounding. It's almost if it weren't the fact we 233 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: were talking about a potential murder for her, it would 234 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: almost be a joke. I mean, I don't know who 235 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: this person was, but outside of a video game, they 236 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: would have absolutely no luck at killing anybody. It's interesting 237 00:15:52,840 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: that you said video game. Who would want this dad dead? 238 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: Take a listen to Olivia Lavoy's Q thirteen Fox surveillance 239 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: video led them to two seventeen year olds in Mount Vernon. 240 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: One of the teams that apparently used a GPS tracker 241 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: to help him down Lee's location the night before the shooting. 242 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: A teen. A teen is the one that murders this 243 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: forty eight year old dad who's up in the morning 244 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: going to his job at a car lot, and a 245 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: teen not only shoots, but thanks to get a GPS 246 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: tracker to track down Lee. Why listen to Timmy Matuza Komo. 247 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: Court documents paint a deliberate and disturbing murder for higher scheme. 248 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: Bellevue police say Sharon Kelly hired a seventeen year old 249 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: boy to murder her ex husband, Baron Lee. An offered 250 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: to pay the teenager thirteen thousand dollars something like this 251 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: is rare, It is rare. On the day of the 252 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: shooting in July, police say the seventeen year old got 253 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: his friend to drive him to the overlook at Lake 254 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: Mont Apartments in Bellevue, where court documents say he was 255 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: going to cap someone and empty the clip. Police say 256 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: the seventeen year old gunman ambushed Lee, shooting him nine times. 257 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: The victim fell to the ground. The suspects stood over 258 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: him and continued to fire. According to court documents, Lee 259 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: said he couldn't think of anyone who would want to 260 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: kill him besides his ex wife, saying they were in 261 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: the midst of a very acrimonious custody battle that also 262 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: included a financial motive for Kelly to have sole custody 263 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: of their child. Prime Stories with Nancy Grace. Why would 264 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: a teen hunt down a forty eight year old dad, 265 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: pumping him full of bullets and a public parking lot. 266 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: We may have an answer, or listen to our friend 267 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: at ABC's GMA, The Pilgrim, an alleged murder for higher 268 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: plot exposed this morning. Shabrin Kelly waking up behind bars 269 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: after allegedly offering a seventeen year old thousands of dollars 270 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: to kill her ex husband. Looked at the riot. I 271 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: see somebody in the mask just running at me. I 272 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: couldn't recognize whether there's a manner or a woman or whatnot. 273 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: Baron Lee says he's been embroiled in a bitter custody 274 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: battle with his ex wife. In July, as he was 275 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: walking to his car at his home in Bellevue, Washington, 276 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: police say a seventeen year old gunman shot at him 277 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: ten times, nine bullets, hitting him in the legs, arms, 278 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: and chest. I was about a few feet away from 279 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: my car and I heard it fah, so I looked 280 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: to the left. I didn't see anybody, and then I 281 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: heard another one and at the same time I looked right. 282 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: But I ended up dropping my keys because I had 283 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: been hitting my right arm. Police say the gunman shot 284 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: Lee at point blank range, but he survived straight out. 285 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: To Nicole Parton Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter, all 286 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: of this over a custody battle. And how did the wife, 287 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: Sharon Kelly, age thirty, know these two teams. We're still 288 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: trying to find out how she found the teams. But 289 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: when police captured her cell phone records, email records, they 290 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: see this plot unfold. She gives them detailed information about 291 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: how she wants her husband killed. She begins to tell 292 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: them that she'll give them GPS location and begins to 293 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: plan to meet them in the park to pay them 294 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: if they will kill her husband. To you, Joseph's got Morgan. 295 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: How does the GPS tracker work? It's Global positioning device, Nancy. 296 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: We're talking about This is satellite technology. So if you 297 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: just imagine you have a small electronic device that you 298 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: can place on your car. This thing is to bounce 299 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: off of a satellite, or it's going to bounce off of, say, 300 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: for instance, if you haven't plugged in or coded to 301 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: your phone, it'll come off of a cell tower potentially, 302 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: and it's going to give you the ability to track 303 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: an individual as they move. Nancy picked these things up 304 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: at anywhere. I was just looking on Google. You can 305 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: actually buy these right off of Amazon. They're pretty easy 306 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: to get. This used to be really high end technology. 307 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: It did. Do you remember Cheryl McCollum all around I 308 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: guess it was Third Avenue and I would go to 309 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: Court TV in the morning. There was a couple of 310 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: spice shops and that was a hot technology Cheryl, to 311 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: get a GPS tracker. Exactly how do they work? What 312 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: do they look like, Cheryl? They're very small, Nancy, And 313 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: all you've got to do. They have like a magnetized 314 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: thing on the bottom. You can attach it to the 315 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: back bumper and then there's an app that goes with 316 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: your phone and you can track that call or anywhere 317 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: it goes. It's pretty simple. It's basically, find my iPhone 318 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: if you will. I gotta gotta make one point jump 319 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: because this is this is blowing my mind that this 320 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: woman goes to a seventeen year old Nancy. You can 321 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: look under any desk at any high school. Teenagers are 322 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: not responsible with chewing gum. Hell in God's name, did 323 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: she think a seventeen year old was going to be 324 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: the person that she needed to hire for a hit man? 325 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: My mind, it's laughable if it weren't so terribly sad 326 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: for this man. And that is the perfect queue to 327 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: go to our shrink doctor, Bethanie Marshall. What was she, Frankie, Bethany? 328 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: I was going to jump in right there anyway. Do 329 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: you remember the polito who also put a hit out 330 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: on my husband? But in this case it was a 331 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: police officer. So you know, these people who want to 332 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: murder their spouses are not the the smartest tool in 333 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: the shed, or however we say it. I think the 334 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: answer is, I don't know. If you've seen her picture, 335 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: she's absolutely gorgeous, but she looks quite immature to me, 336 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: And you know how we think about right now, he's gorgeous, 337 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: and who looks who's immature. Okay, the ex wife of 338 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: Barren Lee is beautiful. She looks a little bit like 339 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman, a tiny, tiny bit just yes, beautiful, long reddish, 340 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: blondish looking hair, perfect teeth, bluish green eyes. I mean 341 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: she is, she's physically beautiful. But what does that had 342 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 1: to do with anything? Well, where I was going with 343 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: this is female perpetrators who who either molest or bring 344 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: young men or children into their thick, twisted world are 345 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: often quite immature themselves. Remember the girl with the pinky 346 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: pinky promise what was her name? Oh boy, molested a 347 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: young teenager and you have her husband many many, many times. Yes, yes, 348 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: she beautiful, but quite immature. I was imagine you're talking 349 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: that's right. So I would imagine that Baron Lee's ex wife, 350 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: who again is gorgeous, was probably quite immature and maybe 351 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: low iq not thinking things through. Just only had one 352 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: goal in mind, which was to have her husband dead. 353 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: She never even thought through the fact that a teenager 354 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: would not be able to carry this out. For all 355 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: I know, she was having an affair with the teenager 356 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: or some kind of a love relationship or really interesting 357 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: that you're saying, you're commenting on the wife, the x 358 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: wife's immaturity and she hires a seventeen year old to 359 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: commit a murder and get away with it. And speaking 360 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: of getting away with it and take a listen to 361 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: our friend, Eva Pilgrim ABCGMA. Police say surveillance video near 362 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: the scene captured the license plate of the getaway truck, 363 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: leading detectives to the shooter, who, according to court documents, 364 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: was going to be paid over thirteen thousand dollars for 365 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: his role in the shooting. According to that document, the 366 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: shooter offered to pay the driver, another seventeen year old, 367 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: between four and six thousand dollars for driving the escape vehicle. 368 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: Court documents also say there was a tracking device purchased 369 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: by Kelly un Lee's car, and that the alleged team 370 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: gunman had forwarded himself an email containing a link to 371 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: a GPS monitoring company's log in web page the night 372 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: before the shooting. The two detectives went downstairs to the vehicle, 373 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: the victim's vehicle that we had seized the day of 374 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: the shooting, looked underneath and there was the GPS tracker. 375 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: This morning, he is grateful that he survived and is 376 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: still here to raise his family. I don't think there's 377 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: very many people shot as many times as I have 378 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: in the condition I am talking and breathing, So you know, 379 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: appreciate that idiot. Idiot idiot. You know, you don't get 380 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: to say that very often and really mean it. But 381 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: he actually forwarded himself the link to the GPS device 382 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: exactly like the one found stuck up under the victim's car. 383 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: As I always say, unless you want to see it 384 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: on page six of the New York Post, do not 385 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: put it in writing. You know, the other day, Cheryl McCollum, 386 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: I always look at something called good sense to figure 387 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: out how the twins can watch a certain movie. And 388 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: I can't remember what movie it was. This is i'mout 389 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: high school students and which they love because they think 390 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: high school is this magical, mystical place. So I look 391 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: up is their sex in movie X? And of course 392 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: when Lucy uses my iPad that night to look up 393 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: some kind of banana bread recipe, there it is. Is 394 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: there sex sex scenes in something? Whatever? The movie? I 395 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: noticed what she looked at me. She didn't say anything, 396 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: but I know that's what she saw. Anyway. My point 397 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: is the idiot typed in and forwarded the link to himself. 398 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace, guys were talking about a 399 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: dad gunned down at least nine maybe twelve times, apparently 400 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: orchestrated by his wife in a custody battle, and she 401 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: hires not one, but two teens. Talk about not being 402 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: able to keep a secret. Sheryl, Well, she had to 403 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: employ the second one because the first one didn't have 404 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: a car. So you know, when you're looking for hit man, 405 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: it's important that they have their own transportation, So keep 406 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: that in mind. Can everybody just excuse us and forgive us? 407 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: Isn't it true? Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, radio host, author, 408 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: We don't get to smile very much in our line 409 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: of business, so just let us be happy for one 410 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: moment when we have a victim that lived to tell 411 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: the tale. We're not callous, it's just we so rarely 412 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: get to be happy about anything. Wendy, It's true. You know, 413 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: we have to spend a silver lining in stories, and 414 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean the huge silver lining here is that, thank God, 415 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: the victims survived. You know. One of the other reasons 416 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: that the perpetrator hired two young boys they would accept 417 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: less money to pull off the hits. So we've talked 418 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: about how juvenile it was, how rookie it was. Well, yeah, 419 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: because there wasn't the kind of money exchange that you 420 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: would expect for professional assassa. Now that ended up being 421 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: just a thankful circumstance, and you're absolutely right, is a 422 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: silver lining here. We can selebrating, maybe even laugh about 423 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: it a little bit for coming bat that you do 424 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: have him telling the story because he's still alive. Well, 425 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that Baron Lee would be too happy 426 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: with us smiling, But I'm looking at a picture of 427 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: him right now, standing praised. The lord beside his hospital bed, 428 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: all stripped in with all sorts of sling on this arm, 429 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: shoulder brace, blah blah, the guy sustaining nine to twelve 430 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: bullet wounds. You were saying, Cheryl before I so rudely 431 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: interrupted about hiring not one, but two teams. And he 432 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: forwarded himself the link to the tracking device. He forwarded 433 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: himself to link. He had to get a buddy to 434 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: drive him because he didn't have a car. He is, 435 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: takes him back and forth. He leaves his cell phone 436 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: on and takes it with him. So now law enforcement 437 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: knows he made the round trip from Mount Vernon to 438 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: the crime scene. He knows, you know, they know he 439 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: was in that apartment complex, his buddy, his card. They 440 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: didn't even bother to remove the tag while they went 441 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: and did it, so they were able to finding pretty 442 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: quick in his room. They have all the stuff on 443 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: his computer, on his phone, the text messages, the emails, etc. 444 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: It's a plethora of information and evidence that law enforcement 445 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: has been able to get because this kid is seventeen 446 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: ergo stupid and he does things like tells his friend, 447 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: I gotta go cap somebody and empty the clip. Okay, 448 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: he didn't even know the difference at the clip in 449 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: a magazine. And you don't even know what you're doing 450 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: to this family. You don't know what you're fixing to do, 451 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: not only to your life, but your dumb friend that's 452 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: driving you. The whole thing is so asinine. I cannot 453 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: help but make fun of this woman and these two teenagers. Idiots, idiots, idiots, 454 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: Long story short, the part about texting I gotta go 455 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: cap this guy. Somebody's been watching too many thrillers on TV. 456 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: How about you even know how to say something like that? 457 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: We were shocked to learn that the mother this man's 458 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: child in the middle of a very acrimonious custody dispute 459 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: allegedly was the mastermind, if you could call it that, 460 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: between of the murder plot. But it's not the first 461 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: time a very similar plot hit the headlines. Take a 462 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: listen to Gigi Chang ABC twenty twenty. The police definitely 463 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: don't believe Pam Smart. There's a whole lot of smoke 464 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: but no fire. Yet they have the videotaped interview from 465 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: a high school kid who said she offered five hundred 466 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: dollars for murder. They find her interview peculiar, but none 467 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: of this adds up to murder until they make a 468 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: stunning connection. So these boys, it turns out, are students 469 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: at the same school where pam Smart works. Not only 470 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: do these kids go to winn it kind of high 471 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: school where Pamela Smart works, and she's close to them 472 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: because she's working on a school project with them. Now 473 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: there's a connection. There's a connection between the gun, the 474 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: three boys, and Paneless Works. The Paneless Smart case hit 475 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: the headlines where a I guess a teacher of sorts, 476 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: she was more an administrative personnel that took over the 477 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: let Me Say media program at a local school connected 478 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: to the brutal murder of her husband, only married one 479 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: year and thank You're such a sensational story. And it's 480 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: quite the coincueting that in one of her photos, this 481 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: suspect Sharon Kelly looks so much like Nicole Kidman. Take 482 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: a listen to Nicole Kidman movie trailer to Die For. 483 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: Susanne would do anything to be famous. She's going to 484 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: be the next blot of Walters to be on television. 485 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: You're not anybody in America unless you're on TV. Was 486 00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: a chat. She would guy for you to be a star. 487 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: Are You've got to be able to do things that 488 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: ordinary people wouldn't do? Was the opportunity she wouldn't kill for. 489 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what she did. Nothing that's going to 490 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: stop her. Yeah, that is the voice of Nicole Kidman 491 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: in to Die For, but it's based on a true 492 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: story of Pam Smart. Take a listen. You know in 493 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: every big trial is that one aha moment, the moment 494 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: everybody remembers was Simpson. It was the glove. In this case, 495 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: it was Pam Smart and a white strapless bikini posing 496 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 1: suggestively on a bed, as if the super sensational trial 497 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: isn't crazy enough already. My god. They were made between 498 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: her and a friend, a girlfriend for a modeling contest. 499 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: They took photos of each other. Those photographs made it 500 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: into court and the prosecution claimed that she had deliberately 501 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: taken those to be seductive to get Billy Flynn to 502 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: do her bidding to kill her husband. The Pam's smart 503 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: case made all the headlines and apparently Sharon Kelly saw 504 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: the movie To Die For. We'll find out about that 505 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: when this case heads to trial. To Nicole Parton Crime 506 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: Online dot Com investigative reporter, where does the case stand 507 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: right now? Because if these two Idget teams were texting 508 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: back and forth, you know, there has to be texts 509 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: between the mastermind if I can call her that, Shavin 510 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: Kelly and the teens. Absolutely, there was a lot of 511 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: text messages and emails back and forth. Even after the father, 512 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: Baron Lee, had been attacked. We have text messages coming 513 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: in from the gunman, Joseph Good coming into the X 514 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: Life saying when can I get paid? And Kelly replies, 515 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: the job was unfinished. We need to finished the job. 516 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: So even after this father has been at tech shot 517 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: nine times. Because he didn't die, she continued to plan 518 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: another hit on him. She says in one of those 519 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: techs sufter she has learned that he may have the 520 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: victim may have survived. You quote will need to complete 521 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: unless it resolves on its own. After her ex was 522 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: in the hospital Baring Lee walking to his car early 523 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: in the morning when he sustains multiple gunshot wounds. What 524 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: more do we know about the evidence, to Nicole partner 525 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: know there's a video surveillance the vehicle the teams were driving, 526 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: where they got the car tag number. We know that 527 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: there are techs. We know that there's the GPS locator 528 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: that the one team emailed to himself. I assume the 529 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: wife bought the GPS locator. She did so. When authorities 530 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: begin to look into her computer record, stay saw where 531 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: she had ordered and purchased the exact model of the 532 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 1: GPS tracker that was found on Barnley's car, and also 533 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: when the surveillance led them back to the getaway car, 534 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: the seventeen year old driver of that car, truck, Quincy Mendez, 535 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: had borrowed the truck from his dad. When they questioned 536 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: the young man, he began to talk, and he began 537 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: to tell them exactly what had happened. And why is 538 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: it you can't teach an old dog any trick, doctor 539 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, because court documents show that when the first 540 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: attempt by shaving Kelly to kill her husband failed, she 541 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: immediately began planning a second attempt. Well, I would wonder 542 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: what was the motivation. Was it to wipe him off 543 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: the face of the earth, as we see in so 544 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: many domestic homicides. Was it the custody battle? Was it 545 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: financially motivated? I really want to know what is inside 546 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: the mind of this woman. I'm pretty sure she was 547 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: seductive with those two boys. I was already thinking that, 548 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: and then you played the clip of Nicole Kidman being 549 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: very seductive. So somehow I'm not quite sure how I 550 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: made that link, but I'm pretty sure that happened too. 551 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: And you know, with women who are borderline, they have 552 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: no sense of time. Sometimes at a borderline woman that 553 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: comes into my office, that's a severe personality disorder that 554 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: causes oceanic rage. They'll say, and then my husband yelled 555 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: at me. And I'll say, and when was not? And 556 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: they'll say, well, nineteen eighty two, Oh Dear Lord in 557 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: Heaven and then I'm like Borderline. They plot and plan 558 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: revenge forever. It's endless. Well. As a matter of fact, 559 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: this one bonded out and the prosecutors argue for her 560 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: to be put back in jail because her attempt to 561 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: kill her husband was ongoing. We wait as justice unfolds. 562 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace crime story, signing off Goodbye friend,