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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, it is Bob Guiney here from Almost Famous

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Speaker 2: the Ogs, and we are here with the Almost Famous

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Speaker 2: podcast today to talk about a recap, if you will.

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Speaker 2: We're counting down the top five most shocking moments to

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Speaker 2: happen at Bachelor Nation this year, and there's a bunch

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Speaker 2: of them. I mean, the fact that we were able

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Speaker 2: to nail this thing down to five is pretty incredible

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Speaker 2: given what we've all seen on the small screen this year.

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Speaker 2: So today we're going to kick it off with the

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Speaker 2: number five most shocking moment. This is again the top

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Speaker 2: five and this is number five, so it's the first one.

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Speaker 2: This one involves some heartbreak, right. A lot of he

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Speaker 2: said she said that came after this and it was

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Speaker 2: definitely something that I thought was a very interesting watch

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Speaker 2: at the time, and then we had a chance to

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Speaker 2: look back at it too, especially with how things turned

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Speaker 2: out kind of much after the fact. It really made

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Speaker 2: you say, hmmm. So one of those things that make

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Speaker 2: you say the number five most shocking moment this year

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Speaker 2: was come on now, Bachelor Grant dumping. Letia gar I know,

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Speaker 2: come on now, Ltia. This was Ltia's buzzword or buzz

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Speaker 2: saying that. She said a little bit, which I think

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Speaker 2: was her way of basically being like, Grant, you're not

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Speaker 2: fooling anyone here, okay, pal, So let's rewind a little.

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Speaker 2: Grant was Grant Els was previously on Gentran season, where

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Speaker 2: he was said home in weeks six, but then he

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Speaker 2: was immediately announced as the next season's bachelor after his elimination.

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Speaker 2: Grant's season premiered in January of this year January twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. The finale aired in March of twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: March twenty fourth, to the exact, which is where our

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Speaker 2: shocking elimination took place. Now, Grant's finale was filmed in

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Speaker 2: the beautiful Dominican Republic, and Grant played professional basketball for

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Speaker 2: a time in the Dominican Republic, so this place was

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Speaker 2: very him. So they kind of tailored things around Grant's

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Speaker 2: love for this region, this region, and when Letia met

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Speaker 2: Grant for their final moment, I mean she literally poured

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Speaker 2: her heart out to him. I mean she was saying

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Speaker 2: some stuff that was like, I mean, it's cringe worthy,

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Speaker 2: only because you realize he didn't choose her right. But

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Speaker 2: she's saying everything from since the moment, you know, I

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Speaker 2: knew this happened. That's when I fell in love with you.

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Speaker 2: That's when I knew I wanted to have your children.

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Speaker 2: That's when I knew we were going to have this

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Speaker 2: life together and we were going to just be so

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Speaker 2: in love. And you know, I will, I will love you,

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Speaker 2: and I will cherish you and our family and our children.

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Speaker 2: I will protect us. I mean, this woman was saying

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Speaker 2: some incredibly beautiful things that any man would love to

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Speaker 2: hear their future wife, you know, saying to them and

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Speaker 2: the future mother and their children, saying, but Grant, let

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Speaker 2: her go through the whole thing. Let her go through

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Speaker 2: the whole spiel, which was again very vulnerable, which was

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Speaker 2: something she had problems with throughout the course of the season.

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Speaker 2: And and and here she was just laying it all

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Speaker 2: on the line, thick, I mean, with confidence. And Grant

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Speaker 2: waited until she was done, of course, and man, you

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Speaker 2: had the sigh that you know, this is not good, right,

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Speaker 2: And he said that he had an emotional connection, told

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Speaker 2: her how beautiful she was, told her, I love you

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Speaker 2: very much, and I want to give you everything you deserve,

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Speaker 2: but I'm not your person were his exact words, and

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Speaker 2: after some back and forth, he said, I'm truly sorry.

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Speaker 2: I hope you don't view me any differently, to which

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Speaker 2: Letia very famously said, well I do for sure. Come on, now,

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Speaker 2: come on now, Grant man, I will say this, this

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Speaker 2: was one of the in my opinion, one of the

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Speaker 2: sternest moments on the on the podium there on the

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Speaker 2: on the proposal stand whatever you call that thing, when

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Speaker 2: beautiful and someone's going to be getting proposed to, and

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Speaker 2: I will tell you from experience, you know. Grant kept defaulting, saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, well, I'm sorry because you know you don't

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Speaker 2: understand the situation I'm in how difficult it is. It's like, yeah, bro,

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Speaker 2: try being the fourth dude standing up there doing it

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Speaker 2: when I did it, And yeah, that's when you don't

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Speaker 2: know what's happening. When you're the seventy fourth bachelor whatever

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Speaker 2: he was. I don't even know, thirty fifth maybe whatever

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Speaker 2: he is. You know what's coming. Yeah, you might not

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Speaker 2: know personally how difficult it's going to be, but you know,

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Speaker 2: it's going to get real, and it's going to get awkward,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to get rough, right, I will say this,

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Speaker 2: you know, watching this on the podium, it did give

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Speaker 2: me a flashback to my season of The Bachelor. I

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Speaker 2: had Kelly Joe and Estella as my two finalists. Kelly Joe.

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Speaker 2: You know, one of the things I thought was really

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Speaker 2: this moment was Kelly Joe. I'm holding Kelly Joe's hands

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Speaker 2: and when I tell her she's not the one, she

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Speaker 2: you know. That one was was pretty dramatic as well,

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Speaker 2: but this I felt like Letia's departure in this moment

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Speaker 2: she was she decided that she was going to tell

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Speaker 2: him how wrong this was for her. And I actually

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Speaker 2: really as a viewer, appreciated that, you know, I appreciated

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Speaker 2: kind of getting to know that, you know, well, what

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Speaker 2: about all these things you told me? What about all

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Speaker 2: these things you said? Like what's going on here? You know?

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Speaker 2: And and in fact, the dramatic breakup did continue, because

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Speaker 2: we even had Latia on the podcast where she gave

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Speaker 3: I think initially when I went home and I'm like

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Speaker 3: driving away in the car, I'm like, what was that? Like,

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Speaker 3: I'm so like confused, Like I just had the rug

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Speaker 3: think like as I sat at home, I was like, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I kind of it kind of starts to click that

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Speaker 3: so there really were so many gaps that were like big,

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Speaker 3: And then for sure watching it back and seeing like

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Speaker 3: other people's conversations added even like a different layer of

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Speaker 3: perspective where I was like Okay, Yeah, Like the conversations

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Speaker 3: and I think that's like with any breakup, you know,

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Speaker 3: like you continued, like it kind of continues to make

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Speaker 2: Latia also later hashed it out with Grant on after

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Speaker 2: the Final Rose with Jesse Palmer, where this is where

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Speaker 2: we all kind of got to see what's going on

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Speaker 2: behind the curtain, right, She called Grant out for all

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Speaker 2: the things that led her on throughout the season. She

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Speaker 2: said that Grant had told her right out of the

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Speaker 2: Lytia also told Ashley about this when she came on

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Speaker 2: love you and said like you're the one. Yeah several times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah it was that. He said it the

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Speaker 3: first time. I think he said it on FaceTime to

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Speaker 3: my mom, and he said it like throughout the date,

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Speaker 3: like the puppy date. He said it like a bunch

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Speaker 2: And you know I was. It was.

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Speaker 3: He continued to say it the whole time, whether or

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Speaker 3: talked to him about it several times, but yeah, he

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Speaker 2: So man, watching the after the final Rose moment, I

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've had a lot. We've had a lot

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Speaker 2: And that's good because I think, you know, one of

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Speaker 2: time finding a date, right, I Mean I remember people

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Speaker 2: always going why would you go on a show like this.

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Speaker 2: You're a good looking guy or you're a good looking girl.

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Speaker 2: was interesting because ultimately Grant did choose Juliana and they

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Speaker 2: which was really dumb to say, because, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: you know, look, if nothing else, show some grace, right,

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Speaker 2: well I don't I'm not heartbroken. You know, I'm fine, really,

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Speaker 2: because you proposed to this person, so what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: And you let someone else go who you said was

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Speaker 2: callous to care. I just think that in those moments.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting to me how people try to

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Speaker 2: save face, and you know, maybe they do a whole

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Speaker 2: lot better if they had a little humility and thought

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Speaker 2: about how their words would affect other people. Because whether

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Speaker 2: need to be careful with how you handle their feelings,

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Speaker 2: especially after the fact when things don't work out, because

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Speaker 2: So that would be very interesting to see Letia doing that.

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Speaker 2: But ultimately, you know, the Grant. The Grant Lytia breakup

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five in Bachelor Nation, the Grant Ltia breakup.

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Speaker 2: We haven't heard from Grant much since unless you follow

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Speaker 2: OG host Bob Guinea signing off, Happy New Year. Everybody.

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