1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: The fact is that the removal of Title forty two 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: does not mean the border is open. Proud of the 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: fact that with a democratic president, of democratic House, and 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Democratic Senate, we were able to achieve through this OMNU 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: a spending bill essentially all of our priorities. Thank you, 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: and maybe I should. I'm not stupid. I married Dominic 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Jacopa's daughter, so you know, I got a little Italian 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: to me. Now. Freedom is back in style. Welcome to 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: the Revolution. Coming you want to play our seann Show 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, information on breaking news and more bold 11 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: inspired solutions for America. Hello America, This is Jeffrey Lord 12 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: again sitting in for our vacationing friend Sean Hannity. We 13 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: are looking forward now to talking with one of America's 14 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: great attorneys, David Shoon, who was also, of course President 15 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Trump's attorney. And Hello there, David, Welcome to the Sean 16 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: Hannity Show. Thank you very much. Great to talk to you. Well, David, 17 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, I've got a whole long list of things 18 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: to talk to you about, but I'll try and limit it. 19 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: But I did want to start with the Trump tax 20 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: return dump. I mean, just as an American citizen, this 21 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: is outrageous, is it not. My question to you is 22 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: how legal is this? I think it's outrageous. I think 23 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: there should be and will be some legal challenges to it. 24 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: Listen to the committee to get the documents in the 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: first place, had to show some legislative purpose. But the 26 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: idea now, first of all, you know, politically, practically, it's 27 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: a horrible mistake which will come back to bite them, 28 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: of course. But the Wall Street Journal did an interesting 29 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: piece about it today, just about the fundamental unfairness of 30 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: it and the unfairness of the report on what the 31 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: documents themselves say, because you know, I suppose the committee 32 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: is banking on the fact that nobody's really gonna read 33 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: things for themselves, and they'll just read the partisan political 34 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: message they put out, and the Law Street Journal kind 35 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: of points out that message isn't even accurate. But I 36 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: think it's a terrible I think it's a terrible mistake. 37 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: I think it's going to hit everybody wrong. And the 38 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: more they do this, I think the more backfires. This 39 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: kind of thing certainly ought to pump up President Trump. Yeah, absolutely. 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean it is amazing to me the number of 41 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: things that people like this do that absolutely backfire on 42 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: them and work to President Trump's advantage. One of the 43 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: other things I wanted to talk to you about is, 44 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, what is going on with the FBI. I mean, 45 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: here's a supposedly a gold standard American institution. And you know, 46 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: I went back and took a look to David, because 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember some of this stuff. There's 48 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: an author, Ron Kessler, Ronald Kessler, who wrote a very 49 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: detailed book on the history of the FBI and all 50 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: this sort of thing. And one of the things that 51 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: I remembered off the pap of my head, and I've 52 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: gone back in and looked. He's the Jay Edgar Hoover 53 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: had this curious, interestingly interesting habit. He would send a 54 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: memo to President Kennedy or to Robert Kennedy. Robert Kennedy being, 55 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: of course, for our all younger audience, said John F. 56 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: Kennedy's brother and Attorney General of the United States and 57 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: his nominal boss as Attorney General. And they would say 58 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: things like, well, we have an agent who's reported in 59 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: that President Kennedy was married once and we have some contact. 60 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: And then they'd say to Robert Kennedy, well, we have 61 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: an agent who's reported that you're having an affair with 62 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: a woman in El Paso, to which Robert Kennedy said, 63 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't, I've never been to El Paso. And then 64 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: the kicker was this was all bipartisan. Richard Nixon comes 65 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: along and he sends a memo to Nixon that well, 66 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: we've got an agent who says you're having an affair 67 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: with a woman from China. Let's just say the conduct 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: of the FBI in the past has not been all 69 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: on the up and up, and now we've got this. 70 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: What are you what are your thoughts on this? I mean, 71 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: I just find some of this behavior appalling, with Twitter 72 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: and all of this kind of thing, right, I think 73 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: it's frightening, you know, and I say this my father 74 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: was an FBI agent. Wow. But so I've always been 75 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: very proud of that connection. Quite frankly, scrap book about 76 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: it and so on. Has been a wonderful agency most 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: of the time. Also, but I think that the Twitter 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: connection now is one of the more shocking episodes we've seen. 79 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: I still don't think we know probably half of the story. 80 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: It's pretty shocking, I mean, being used clearly for political purposes, 81 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: and not just that we see you know, other missteps 82 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: or intentional missteps by the FBI and Muther investigation and 83 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: so on, and then former heads of agencies backing it up, 84 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: former heads of agencies passing along the story that the 85 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop was probably a function of the Russian collusion. 86 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: All just crazy stuff. But these are people who the 87 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: public credit with great sort of as having great integrity 88 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: and so on, ahead of a CIA head of National 89 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Intelligence or something like that. It's a very scary proposition. 90 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: It's not I haven't seen that before in this country. No. 91 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: And it what worries me here is you get the feeling. 92 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: And I worked in Washington for a long time for 93 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: a congressman, senator President Reagan, and then in the Bush 94 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: forty one era for HUD Secretary Jack Kemp, and it 95 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: just it just seems to me that this has become 96 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: I mean, the thing that it keeps coming back to 97 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: me is like junior high school, where you've got the 98 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: in kids and the cool kids, and then you've got 99 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: the you know, the sort of geeks that are not 100 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: part of it and all of this kind of thing. 101 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: And in Washington you're either part of that, you know, 102 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: cool kids collection or you're not. And most of the 103 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: people there are a lot of the people certainly they 104 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: live in the same neighborhoods, they work in the same buildings, 105 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: and they could be Republican and Democrat, but they socialized together, 106 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: they're working together, and it creates this mindset that they're 107 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: sort of in charge of the whole thing. We can't 108 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: with the American people have to say about pants and 109 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: that I find really disturbing. And I think we're seeing 110 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: signs of this mentality here in all of these revelations 111 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: that are coming out. I think you put your finger 112 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: on something very important, and I think at some point, 113 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, the American people are getting fed up with it. 114 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: They I did a show on MSNBC the other day 115 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: and the host A Melbourne, spoke about bipartisan January sixth committee. 116 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: I said, there's absolutely nothing bipartisan right that committee, and 117 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: then he had a guest on it said it was 118 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: remarkable that we see the two branches of government, the 119 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: executive branch and let us say, working together. There's nothing 120 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: remarkable about that. In this scenario, they all have a 121 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: common purpose and that is, you know, among other things, 122 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 1: keep Donald Trump off of the ticket for twenty twenty four. 123 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: But how much are we getting sort of distracted by 124 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: all of this. There's so many things, positive things to 125 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: do that the American people need to have done, and 126 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: there's this fixation in just about every setting with you know, 127 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: trying to stop Donald Trump at all, cause that's the 128 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: tax return, the business, that's the January sixth referral and 129 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: so on. So depressing, Yeah, it is, It is very depressing, 130 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: and I think it's dangerous. You know, it's one thing 131 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: for Americans to sit around the kitchen table and if 132 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: there are Trump supporters and Trump never trumpers, that's fine, 133 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: that's that's a conversation. But when you're dealing with the 134 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: world of Vladimir Putin and ZG Ping and North Korea 135 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: and Iran and all this kind of thing, this kind 136 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: of attitude and focus can be exceedingly dangerous. But you're right, 137 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: You're right, right. You know. One thing I'd like to 138 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: say is what we've always been proud of in this country, 139 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: I think is keeping a sense of integrity about our processes, 140 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: where a fair minded people, I think generally and I 141 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: think most people would say that there was nothing fair 142 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: about for example, this January sixth Committee, and I think 143 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: that has implications in a number of ways. Number One, 144 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: if you feel you have a strong case, why do 145 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: you have to rig the deck all one? Kind of 146 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: the same with the Muller investigation. And secondly, just independent 147 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: of whether they have a strong case or weak case, 148 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: their work is only important to the extent the American 149 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: people believe in it, and you automatically with a composition 150 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: of this panel determined at least half the public wouldn't 151 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: believe in it. For example, I mean, if you believe, 152 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: as I do, that the events of January six were 153 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: important and we ought to get to the bottom of things, 154 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: then why not just put nonpartisan people in an investigative 155 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: body instead of all of the people in Congress. You 156 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: picked Chairman Thompson to lead the so called investigation. He 157 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,359 Speaker 1: filed a lawsuit against President Trump alleging Trump was responsible 158 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: for the events of January sixth, and that he Jairman 159 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: Thompson was personally injured. That's probably the last person I 160 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: think a fair minded American would expect to head up 161 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: an investigation. You have, I'll wrap it up in a second, 162 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: but you have Shift and Raskin, who've written books on 163 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: the subject, they have invested interest in ensuring at the 164 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: committee comes out with a conclusion consistent with their books. 165 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: Why have testimony behind closed doors for witnesses you don't 166 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: think are going to be favorable to your story. Why 167 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: put on heavily edited TV produced hearings for public consumption. 168 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: Why make comments during the course of your investigation about 169 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: how you want to send people to jail? And Liz Jane, 170 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: You're going to goal is to stop prisident Trump from 171 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: becoming president. The Washington posted a telling piece last month 172 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: about this. They interviewed fifteen staffers, and the staffers said, 173 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: we got involved with this thing to try to do 174 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: some fact finding. We didn't think it was going to 175 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: become Liz Cheney's twenty twenty four campaign to stop Donald Trump. 176 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: That's what it is. And now all of the focuses 177 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: on the criminal referrals and so on, and now what 178 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: you're going to criminally refer them to a Justice department 179 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: where the criminal section headed up by Lisa Monaco and 180 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: Andrew Weisman at Yeah, then go. That was on my 181 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: list of things to talk to you about here, and 182 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: this guest to some degree, what we're talking about about 183 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: a network of people here and how they abused these positions. 184 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: Lisa Monica, what is her form Couse, she's in the 185 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: Justice Department. She deputied's number two persons. Yeah, in the 186 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: Justice Department. And Andrew Weisman, of course, was a key 187 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: player in the Muller investigation and they worked together for years. 188 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, I mean so, and you know 189 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: when you when you look at this committee, and again, 190 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: as I say, having worked in the House and for 191 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: that matter, of the Senate, but in this case in 192 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: the House, one of the things she learned very quickly 193 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: is there, whether it's Republican or Democrat, there's a majority 194 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: and a minority, and the purpose of that setup and 195 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: the minority is to question the majority. And I mean 196 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: President Trump was in essence blocked from any defense. There 197 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: was no one called, no one who could offer a 198 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: different view of President Trump. And that was designed on purpose. 199 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean that is that as a witch hunter or 200 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: a lynch mob, as it were. And consistent with that 201 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: by having no ranking member minority member on the committee, 202 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: which is of use have just pointed out, is there 203 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: to be a buffer to all the other point the 204 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: other side. Honest, there was no cross examination, right, any witnessed, 205 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: and so again this fellow on this MSNBC, mister Milburgh, 206 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: I said, what do you think about this evidence and 207 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: that evidence? I said, I refused to legitimize the process 208 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: unless that evidence was subjected to cross examination. It's like 209 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: watching a trial where just the prosecution goes forward, there's 210 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: no defense, and then you're asked to come to a conclusion. Well, 211 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: you never heard any cross examination, you never heard any 212 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: other side of a story, you never heard any explanation 213 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: for testimony. How can anybody possibly give that any credibility. 214 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: That's not the American way. Well. One of the things 215 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: that I have suggested, and I made this suggestion, I 216 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: asked a question of Steve Scalisa. It was who came 217 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: to an American Spectator dinner some time ago and was 218 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: open to questions. And I said, you know, will there 219 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: be an effort if Republicans take control of the House 220 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: to investigate the January sixth Committee. I mean, I just 221 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: think that we should be going there. And you know, 222 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: and I said, I said, today before you came on, 223 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: I said to you know, memo to the January six Committee, 224 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: savior text emails and phone records and that of your 225 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: staff and one of the things that really got to 226 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: me was, I mean, since I'm sitting here on Sean 227 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Hannity's show, which they were releasing his private communications, his 228 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: emails or text or whatever. Well, you know, a member 229 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: of the media. Can you imagine if if somebody out 230 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: there in the government had released the private communications of 231 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: somebody from the New York Times or MSNBC, they would 232 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: they would they would go crazy, and they should and 233 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: they should or as you say, fellow members of this 234 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: committee who actually do work for us, unlike Sean Hannity 235 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: or the New York Times, these folks are a public servant, 236 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: right and to get away with this in our name 237 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: is just very, very wrong. And so what are we 238 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: going to see now payback with the next Congress and 239 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: all that. At some point somebody has to step up 240 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: and say, let's move forward in the interest of the 241 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: American people in American projects, and you know what's good 242 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: for our country, not just the personal commination, criminations and 243 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. It's just it's really gotten. Everything 244 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: is partisan politics now. It drives every agenda, right, and 245 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: I mean this has to be you know, I'm not 246 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: necessarily here for tit for tat. But one of the 247 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: things that I think is this has to be dealt 248 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: with in such a fashion so that it will never 249 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: happen again. Yeah, and uh, I mean the whole stacking 250 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: of the committee and all of this kind of thing. 251 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: And as you say no cross examination, I mean, who's 252 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: heard of that? I mean, this is a country that 253 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: you know loves to pay attention to lawyer shows, and 254 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: they all know you get the right to defend yourself 255 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: and to ask questions and all that, and that simply 256 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: was not allowed. That's right. And every trial or adversarial 257 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: proceeding that anyone's familiar with, you get a very different 258 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: perspective once cross examination starts. It's not just whether the 259 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: facts or the facts as the person sees it, it's 260 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: the motivation behind them. It's the context of those facts. 261 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: It's the motivation potentially of the witness to misstate those facts, 262 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: to evade you, trouble for him or herself, all of 263 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: those things. But there's each witness was produced, as you know, 264 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: a hero, people who people on this committee absolutely hated 265 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: before because they associated with President Trump. Now if they 266 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: tell the story they want to hear, they're heroes. Yeah, 267 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: that's exactly what we see in you know, organized client cases. 268 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: People who were you know, killers are now portrayed as 269 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: good guys who just wanted to do the right thing. No, 270 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: they wanted to help themselves avoid any problem. Well, David, 271 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: it's been a joy talking to you. Marry Christmas, Happy 272 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: New Year of Valentine's Day, Saint Patrick's Day, Happy Hanaka, 273 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: all of that, and we'll see you in the new 274 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: year and we'll buckle in great. Thanks, thank you very much. 275 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: This Jeffrey Lord sitting in for Sean Hannity. We hope 276 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: you tune in code to my websiteee Jeffreylord dot com 277 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: and the Word of the Lord with Jeffrey Lord and 278 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: also the American Spectator and and your calls will be 279 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: up very shortly. And that eight nine one eight hundred 280 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: nine four one Sean, that's eight hundred and nine four 281 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: one seven three two six. All right, ladies and gentlemen, 282 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: This is Jeffrey Lord sitting in for our friend Sean Hannity. 283 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: We only have about a minute here and then when 284 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: we come back, we are going to be talking to 285 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Kentucky Congressman James Comer. The congressman is slated to be 286 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: the new Chairman of the House Oversight Committee, and I 287 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: can only suggest I hope he's get resting up for Christmas, 288 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: because he's going to be one very busy guy when 289 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: we get into this New Year's There is a lot 290 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: of oversight to be done, and I'm sure he is 291 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: hard at work on this already. So we're looking forward 292 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: to that and on we will go. Here, We've got 293 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: we've got all kinds of activities I'm sure for everybody 294 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: around the country here as we roll into Christmas. So 295 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: let me just say Merry Christmas. And I hope at 296 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: some point we'll get some calls in here. And I 297 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: am Jeffrey Lord of the Word of the Lord podcast 298 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: and the Jeffreylord dot Com, and I hope you'll take 299 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: some time to visit with me over the holidays and 300 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: maybe read your book and my book. Oh Linda, there 301 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: was a book, did you know that swamp Swamp something 302 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: Swamp Wars Donald Trump and the New American Populism versus 303 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: the Old Order. Very sticky and welcome back to the 304 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. This is Jeffrey Lord from The American 305 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: Spectator Newsmax TV. My book Swamp wars from a whole 306 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: bunch of places. Here the American Spectator, as I say, 307 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: and we are delighted to welcome to the show here 308 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: Congressman James Comer from Kentucky. The Congressman, as I said, 309 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: is slated to become the new chairman of the House 310 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: Oversight Committee. And I can only imagine, Congressman, thanks for 311 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: being here, what a task you've got ahead of yourself here. 312 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: There's no shortage of oversight in the Biden administration, and 313 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats haven't provided any over the past two years, 314 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: and hopefully that'll change in a few weeks. Yeah, do 315 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: you have any sort of I'm sure you do, I 316 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: outline of where you're going. I mean, you know the 317 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: obvious ones like Hunter, Biden and all that, but I'm 318 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: sure there are others that may not be front and 319 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: center in a lot of people's minds, that are front 320 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: and center with yourself and your colleagues. Yeah, we're very 321 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: concerned about wasteful spending. I mean, if you go back 322 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: the last two and a half years in the name 323 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: of COVID, I mean, it's it's ridiculous. The unemployment in 324 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: church fraud, the PPP loan fraud, the stimulus fraud, the 325 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: state and local government money that was doled out with 326 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: no safeguards in the last or next the last stimulus 327 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 1: bill that Biden passed. The list goes on and on 328 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: and on of hundreds of billions, if not trillions of 329 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: dollars wasted, and no one's been held accountable, no one 330 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: has gotten a final tally of how much was wasted. 331 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: And you know, sadly, you do a lot of investigations 332 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 1: to try to prevent history from repeating itself, and you know, 333 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: it's just like there's no worry in the world from 334 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: the Democrats and sadly a few Republicans in the Senate 335 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: about how much money is being wasted. So that's going 336 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: to be a priority for us in January. Yeah, well, 337 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: that's that's a good thing. I was saying. We had 338 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: Congressman Scott Perry on earlier, and who happens to be 339 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: my congressman, and great American he is, he is, indeed, 340 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: and I was saying to him that in the long 341 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: ago and far away, I was a legislative director and 342 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: budget committee staffer for Congressman Bud Schuster from Pennsylvania, and 343 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: it was it was my task to read these things 344 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: and it was just a hauling what was in them. 345 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: I mean they were huge. And at one point when 346 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: President Reagan came to address Congress, and when I was 347 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: working for him, he had people didn't really know what 348 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: it was. It was a huge stack of papers next 349 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: to him on the podium there. And finally he gets 350 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: to the subject of the budget and says, you know, 351 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: this is what you sent me. And he goes through 352 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: a struggle to lift this thing up and says, and 353 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: if you send me one again, I won't sign it 354 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: and drops it on the podium with a loud, resounding smack, 355 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: which got lots of cheers from Republicans. But here we are, 356 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: all these years later, and this kind of thing is 357 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: still going on, and I you know, I sometimes despair 358 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: that you can ever shut this off. But it's pretty discouraging. 359 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: I'm I'm at a low point in the six years 360 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: of time in Congress. I've never been so discouraged seeing 361 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: what's going on with this omnimus spending bill. I mean, 362 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: all Republicans have talked about over the past twelve months 363 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: and during the mid term elections was you know, the 364 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: way will spending at the CDC with doctor Fauci, and 365 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: the National Institute for Health with doctor Collins, and then 366 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: you go over into the Department of Justice with Merritt 367 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: Garland and the FBI and all this wasteful spending. Every 368 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: one of their budgets are not only fully funded, they 369 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: received more money in this omnimus still than President Biden 370 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: even requested from Congress. So so no one's held accountable. 371 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: And what makes it hard for me is the next 372 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: chairman of the Oversight Committee, we want to bring these 373 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: bureaucrats and these agency heads in front of the committee 374 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: and grill them. We want to ask them about who authorized, 375 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: who authorized the FBI to pay Twitter three and a 376 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: half million dollars, you know, who authorized to create eighty 377 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: new employees to be a ministry of propaganda for the FBI. 378 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: And what's happened is when the Senate pat went along 379 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: went to Democrats that Omnimus spending bill, every one of 380 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: these agencies is funded for the next twelve months. So 381 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: there's not going to be a sense of urgency from 382 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: these department heads and cabinet secretaries to even come before 383 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: Congress for a long time. No, that's that's absolutely right, 384 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: and I'd like to ask, all of this stuff that 385 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: we see coming out of the bureaucracies, particularly the FBI 386 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: and the Department of Justice, is there a plan to 387 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: look into you know, who did what? And you know, 388 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: with all of these groups here, I mean again, having 389 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: worked in Washington a long time, you know, it was 390 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: very clear to me that there's a whole cadre of 391 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: career bureaucrats and they think presidents come and go and 392 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: all this and they're really in charge. And what particularly 393 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: attracted my attention in the day this would be it 394 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: was January twenty seventeen, of full eleven days after Donald 395 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: Trump was sworn in as president, and the Washington Post 396 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: ran a front page story about all these career bureaucrats 397 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: who were plotting to you know, screw up his agenda 398 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: and overturn it and block it wherever they could, and 399 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: they were reaching out to former Obama staffers and all 400 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: this kind of thing. Well, that's bad enough as it is, 401 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: but when you get in this kind of thing into 402 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, Wow, that's that's pretty dangerous. I 403 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: think it is dangerous, and we are going to make 404 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: a priority to identify all the wrongdoing and hold people accountable. 405 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: And go a step further and try to reform the 406 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: FBI and the Department of Justice. And the person that's 407 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: going to lead that is is Jim Jordan. And I 408 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: don't think anyone would question whether or not he has 409 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: any fight in him and whether I guess not he's 410 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: he's a high energy guy, like like Trump would say, 411 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: you know, and I mean he's passionate about it. I 412 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: know he's on my Oversight committee. Of course, he's also 413 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: chairman of the Judiciary Committee. We work together on a 414 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: lot of things. A lot of my investigations overlap with 415 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: stuff Judiciary is doing with respect to the Department of Justice. 416 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: So I can tell you he's the right guy for 417 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: the job. And you know he's he is as outraged 418 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: as anyone listening to your show right now about the 419 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: wrongdoing in the FBI. He'll from an oversight at ten point, 420 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean, who who authorize this? They don't have the authority, 421 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: not just to censor free speech, but they don't have 422 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: the authority to create these massive divisions with eighty employees 423 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: and to dole out you know, we've heard three and 424 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: a half million dollars to Twitter. Just think how much 425 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: they gave Google and Facebook for the same thing. And 426 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: then you know, we learned recently they tried to offer 427 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: a million dollars to anyone that could validate the steal dossier. 428 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, who gives them this this authority to spend 429 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: this money. Congress doesn't. This is a this is an 430 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: instance of the deep state and the other of your 431 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: aucracies that do just exactly what you said the Washington 432 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: Post sided when Trump got elected. They do whatever they want, 433 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: and unfortunately, nobody in Congress has tried to stop them. 434 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: And that's gonna be a priority for Republicans in the House. 435 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: But I tell you, I'm I'm not feeling a sense 436 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: of urgency from our Republican colleagues in the Senate because 437 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: one way to stop them, one way to get them 438 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: to come before Congress and and spill the beans on 439 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: what's happening, is to threaten to hold up their funding. Yes, yes, 440 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: and we just you know, just a few minutes ago 441 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: the Senate to prove their funding for the next the 442 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: next year, and we're going to vote against it in 443 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: the morning in the House, the Republicans. But you know 444 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: how it's gonna go to Pelosi will get every Democrat 445 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: to vote for it, and I'm looking. I'm looking at 446 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: a chiron on newsmaxus. Is the GOP House members bow 447 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: retribution for senators who voted for the omnibus? Yeah, I 448 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: mean I just voted again some little bill that Murkowski 449 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: had just a minute ago, and you know, just I'm 450 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: frustrated with Murkowski. I'm frustrated with all those Republican senators 451 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: did that. I mean, there's no who do they do? 452 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: They not listen to the voters. I mean, the voters 453 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: of America are are angry. They're they're mad because of inflation. 454 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: We have inflation because we're spending too much money. Not 455 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: only did they not make any cut anywhere, they significantly 456 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: increased spending for the next twelve months. I mean, want 457 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: a slap in the face to every voter who said 458 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: in the mid term elections they wanted to flip the 459 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: House of Representatives and they wanted to make inflation the 460 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: number one issue in the in the mid term. I mean, 461 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: it's just unbelievable that there's this big of a disconnect 462 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: between what the people of America want and what these 463 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: these members of Congress are voting for today. Suspect in 464 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: the case of Senator to Murkowski. Her main constituent is 465 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: Senator McConnell. But I one of the things that has 466 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: occurred to me and others, it's certainly not original to me, 467 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: and one of these and I've suggested this as a 468 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: matter of fact the President Trump but quite a while ago, 469 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: that Republicans in Congress should be pushing for term limits 470 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: for the bureaucrats, so that if you if you sign 471 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: on to work in what the Department of Energy or wherever, 472 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: you stay ten years in, you're out. I think that's 473 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: a great idea. I mean, I'm for term limits for 474 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: members of Congress. I'm for term limits for bureaucrats. I'm 475 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: for term This is where I've differed from a lot 476 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: of focus. I'm for term limits for Supreme Court justices, 477 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and federal judges. I mean, it's if you 478 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: want to fundamentally change Congress, I would just talk about 479 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: Congress here. If you just want to fundamentally change Congress 480 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: for the better, two things that that can be done 481 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: tomorrow that will make a difference long term, and that's 482 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: term limits and in a balanced budget modment, Because the 483 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: only way Congress will ever balance the budget is if 484 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: it's required, right, because if it's not required, you're not 485 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: going to get them. I mean, we're increasing the debt 486 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: every day. The deficit grows every day. We're not even 487 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no leadership in Washington right now that's 488 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: serious about balancing the budget, much less trying to pay 489 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: off any of the debt now. And you know, the 490 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: thing that really bugs me about this is that people 491 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: float along as if there's not going to be a 492 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: consequence for this. There will be consequences there, you know, 493 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: we will have to pay the bill literally and figuratively 494 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: for this down the road, and there just seems to 495 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: be no no realization of this. They think they can 496 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,239 Speaker 1: operate in a vacuum here and that's the end of it. 497 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: That's right. And you look at because we've spent so 498 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: much money, we have inflation. As we have inflation, the 499 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: federal reserves had to raise interest rates. Because we have 500 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: a national debt of thirty trillion dollars, our interest payments 501 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: on the debt could be over a trillion dollars a 502 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: year now. I mean, it's it's spiraling out of control. 503 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: And members of Congress know that, but the average person 504 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: doesn't really think about that the average person doesn't. You know, 505 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't think you can comprehend how big a trillion is, right, 506 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: And then at the end of the day, at the 507 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: end of the day, not only do they not try 508 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: to make modest cuts, they increase the increase it even 509 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: more than what Joe Biden requested. And you know, Joe 510 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: Biden doesn't give a crap about the debt. No, he 511 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: certainly doesn't. He certainly doesn't. Well, and you add all 512 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: this in them is we've talked about the title forty 513 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: two and the border agents and all of this, all 514 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: of these people streaming at will over the border here, 515 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: and we can't even get the president to go down 516 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: there and eyeball the situation which the rest of us 517 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: are can see plainly on television. And he's responsible for this. 518 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: I just you know, where is the federal government and 519 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: doing all of this? And you've got all these people 520 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: in border patrol and all this complaining about it. This 521 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: is serious and there will be a price to pay 522 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: for that. We're paying the price every day. I don't 523 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: think the taxpayers realize how much is being spent on 524 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: housing these migrants, in transporting these migrants, in providing Medicaid 525 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: for these migrants. And think about that, when people are 526 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: out struggling to pay their health in church premiums and 527 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: pay their deductibles and copas, these people who Joe Biden's 528 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: welcoming across the border every day, they're getting it for free, 529 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: because if you have Medicaid, you get free healthcare. And 530 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: then you know, the kids end up in the public 531 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: school systems that they're having to take teachers away from 532 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, American students and provide a special teacher that 533 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: speaks a special language for these immigrants that have that 534 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: have crossed over the line. And you know, there's a 535 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: misconception that they're all from Mexico. I've said for a 536 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: long time, anybody from Mexico that wants to come to 537 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: the United State, they're already here. These people are from Africa, 538 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: they're from Europe, they're from Asia, they're from Central America, 539 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: they're from South America. They speak, you know, dozens of languages. 540 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: And that's an unfunded mandate on the school system when 541 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: they have to, uh, you know, provide a public education 542 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: for them. So the expense to the taxpayers is enormous. 543 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: And then you throw in the fentinall that's coming across 544 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: the border, and the death rate and the crime rate 545 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: and all of the expense involved with that. I mean, 546 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: you can't even put a price tag on it. But 547 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: yet here we all in Congress and the Senators can't 548 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: agree on even doing anything to try to Let's give 549 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: it title forty two, which is the one tool in 550 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: the toolbox. Well, Congressman, I hate to say this, but 551 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: we've got a run. But thank you very much for 552 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: coming on the show. Have a merry Christmas, and we 553 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: will be watching you next year for sure, and good luck. 554 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Congressman. James Comer from Kentucky. This is Jeffrey 555 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: Lord sitting in for Sean Hannity. And you can see 556 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: my potty. He listened to my podcast at the Word 557 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: of the Lord but with Jeffrey Lord. And also my website, 558 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: the Jeffreylord dot com. And of course there's my book 559 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: Swamp Wars, Donald Trump and the New American Populism versus 560 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: the Old Order, and boy are we seeing that play out. 561 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: See you on the other side. This is Jeffrey Lord 562 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: in for Sean Hannity. We have a great show coming 563 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: up with Michael Schellenberger. We're gonna talk about Twitter and 564 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: all the things that he has discovered, So please stay 565 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: tuned for that, and then we will uh, I'm gonna 566 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: keep talking about jeff We're gonna keep talking, rushing it. 567 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out about Twitter drop number seven, Yeah yeah, 568 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Lord yeah, right exactly, and not to mention the 569 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: word of the Lord.